Iron & Blood was sold in June 2009 on ebay by the same "problematic" person. The version of this alpha was October 17 1996, and plays on FZ35S, FZ21S or Dev Kit. The current owner refuses to release it. The stage design contains a part of a lightwave 3D model for Mac, which is part of the 3DO M2 SDK Version 3.0 (1996, part 02444-007). you can see it here: th-cam.com/video/3BSAj5XXW-w/w-d-xo.html&t=534 Since 2009 Iron & Blood M2 remains unreleased. A shame.
This is interesting. I would have wondered what a system that could outperform the N64 in 1997 would have looked liked, even though I would have gravitated immediately towards the Dreamcast.
geez $1500 isn't a whole lot to get a game. You're telling me there wasn't 1500 people that couldn't toss in a dollar each ha. Mechwarrior 2 looked pretty sweet, and realistic You can't go wrong with Need for Speed PolyStar looks really fun. Nice
As much as I agree that $1500 isn't a ton in that way, this sort of gatekeeping is dangerous to preservation. Holding hostage an undumped prototype/port of an already released game is super gross. :(
It’s an odd dichotomy of support for different games. A number have actually been dumped using this tactic, but nothing for the M2. With anything M2 related, someone with some big money would need to back it, this happened with IMSA though the guy holding it rejected the offer. There is after all only a handful of M2 systems out there so it’s truly dependent on a small group.
Why do people ask for money for something they did not make themselves. They could release it in a milisecond. Iron & Blood is a 2nd M2 desaster, without the happy end - yet.
it is vice versa why would anyone release a dump for free? Only the strongest fans of Consoles games would probably do that. It is still strange since most of the games are either released elsewhere or Not Interesting enough. The Only Interesting Games were Evil Night, Polystar, Battlesport 2, Battle Tryst and maybe D2.
*Why Holly Star wouldn't was released!? It looks really great!* If I would tried the game back in the nineties I really would have loved it, seriously that made me feel upset... Need for speed II is a such great game, sadly we can't never tried a copy for M2... This series are getting impressive, amazing work Jenovi!
@@Jenovi your welcome. it takes a lot of work to do what you do and put it together so well.. Your one of the only youtubers i click soon as i get the msg i do have the bell on..
I appreciate your dedication to watching all my videos Tim. Glad I’m not burning you out with this series of unreleased games yet. I really need to get this Tempo review done, but I don’t see it happening real soon. It’s mostly unreleased and documentaries in the works.
Man, is it facinating to think about what could've been if the M2 had released and at least most of these games finished and released on the system. I'd have loved to see how many more Japanese developers might've jumped on board if Konami found success on it.
Capcom was also committed to the system, they even had a unnamed 3D fighter in development. It seems to me we would have seen almost perfect ports of PC games as well opening the door for a lot more opportunity.
@@Jenovi Really? Capcom? Sounds like that could've been really cool. I can absolutely see the potential of PC ports from most of the games you already talked about.
Elkplaysandpaints it was a 3D fighter intended to compete against Virtua Fighter and the Tekken series. Im sure it was release in arcades, but beyond narrowing it down to a few games, I couldn’t figure out the exact one.
Not ideal for Panasonic but nice a lot of these games were salvaged to PS1 and PC. Funny thing about NSF on 3DO is many people think it runs slow but it's actually running realistic compared to the PS1 version. What I consider a reliable source "ewhac" said the 3DO version could have done the same arcade style speed on 3DO. Dang so many M2 games only in Japan. :P
@@Jenovi I knew you were a great guy after seeing you donated the SNES to St1ka, so after seeing you in St1ka's comments I decided to see your channel and absolutely love your videos. I feel it's like St1ka's channel, criminally underrated!! But I guess you guys cover some more obscure topics than the mainstream TH-camrs.
EA Sports games have a locked release window... so Madden is always first in the year and if the system was slated any time before August then NHL 98 would not have been out yet
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5 years later and this series is still so good
More, please more 3do and 3do m2 content! thanx!
Florin Ciobanu sadly I have only one episode remaining in this series.
@@Jenovi thank you for your efforts to bring us this investigation, it's a pleasure to watch!
Iron & Blood was sold in June 2009 on ebay by the same "problematic" person. The version of this alpha was October 17 1996, and plays on FZ35S, FZ21S or Dev Kit. The current owner refuses to release it. The stage design contains a part of a lightwave 3D model for Mac, which is part of the 3DO M2 SDK Version 3.0 (1996, part 02444-007). you can see it here: th-cam.com/video/3BSAj5XXW-w/w-d-xo.html&t=534 Since 2009 Iron & Blood M2 remains unreleased. A shame.
This is interesting. I would have wondered what a system that could outperform the N64 in 1997 would have looked liked, even though I would have gravitated immediately towards the Dreamcast.
Thanks for the video, i love this!!! No mainstream please, want to learn about these cancelled and obscure games!
Thanks for the feedback Ace if Hearts. Is there a system you would like to see covered?
Funny we both uploaded an M2 video on the same day!
I’ll have to check that out in the morning. Hit the sub button as it looks like a series I’ll want to watch.
Jenovi thanks! Next week we have a ton of gameplay coming out for the arcade stuff. Later episodes have the kiosk gameplay on them
I would absolutely love to see more obscure stuff.
Thanks for the feedback. Any systems in particular?
geez $1500 isn't a whole lot to get a game. You're telling me there wasn't 1500 people that couldn't toss in a dollar each ha.
Mechwarrior 2 looked pretty sweet, and realistic
You can't go wrong with Need for Speed
PolyStar looks really fun. Nice
As much as I agree that $1500 isn't a ton in that way, this sort of gatekeeping is dangerous to preservation. Holding hostage an undumped prototype/port of an already released game is super gross. :(
It’s an odd dichotomy of support for different games. A number have actually been dumped using this tactic, but nothing for the M2. With anything M2 related, someone with some big money would need to back it, this happened with IMSA though the guy holding it rejected the offer. There is after all only a handful of M2 systems out there so it’s truly dependent on a small group.
Couldn’t agree more.
Why do people ask for money for something they did not make themselves. They could release it in a milisecond. Iron & Blood is a 2nd M2 desaster, without the happy end - yet.
it is vice versa why would anyone release a dump for free?
Only the strongest fans of Consoles games would probably do that. It is still strange since most of the games are either released elsewhere or Not Interesting enough.
The Only Interesting Games were Evil Night, Polystar, Battlesport 2, Battle Tryst and maybe D2.
Great job as always man!
Thanks dude. I smashed that like button.
*Why Holly Star wouldn't was released!? It looks really great!* If I would tried the game back in the nineties I really would have loved it, seriously that made me feel upset...
Need for speed II is a such great game, sadly we can't never tried a copy for M2...
This series are getting impressive, amazing work Jenovi!
Another fascinating episode. Thanks, mate. Cheers!
Thanks for stopping by.
Really enjoyed it thank you for your work..
Thanks for taking part in this community. I appreciate the comment.
@@Jenovi your welcome. it takes a lot of work to do what you do and put it together so well.. Your one of the only youtubers i click soon as i get the msg i do have the bell on..
Great series, very few people talk about the m2 the follow up to the 3do it was potentially something special for the time
Definitely keep up the obscure stuff. This is becoming one of my favorite segments.
I appreciate your dedication to watching all my videos Tim. Glad I’m not burning you out with this series of unreleased games yet. I really need to get this Tempo review done, but I don’t see it happening real soon. It’s mostly unreleased and documentaries in the works.
Man, is it facinating to think about what could've been if the M2 had released and at least most of these games finished and released on the system. I'd have loved to see how many more Japanese developers might've jumped on board if Konami found success on it.
Capcom was also committed to the system, they even had a unnamed 3D fighter in development. It seems to me we would have seen almost perfect ports of PC games as well opening the door for a lot more opportunity.
@@Jenovi Really? Capcom? Sounds like that could've been really cool. I can absolutely see the potential of PC ports from most of the games you already talked about.
Elkplaysandpaints it was a 3D fighter intended to compete against Virtua Fighter and the Tekken series. Im sure it was release in arcades, but beyond narrowing it down to a few games, I couldn’t figure out the exact one.
You KNOW I prefer the obscure stuff!
Another great video. Ty!
Thanks for watching.
Not ideal for Panasonic but nice a lot of these games were salvaged to PS1 and PC. Funny thing about NSF on 3DO is many people think it runs slow but it's actually running realistic compared to the PS1 version. What I consider a reliable source "ewhac" said the 3DO version could have done the same arcade style speed on 3DO. Dang so many M2 games only in Japan. :P
There is an .iso file of Need For Speed that runs faster and smoother than the PS1 version. I have that file for anyone that contacts me.
Great video as always mate.
Thanks Gunman, I appreciate your dedicated support for my channel.
@@Jenovi I knew you were a great guy after seeing you donated the SNES to St1ka, so after seeing you in St1ka's comments I decided to see your channel and absolutely love your videos. I feel it's like St1ka's channel, criminally underrated!! But I guess you guys cover some more obscure topics than the mainstream TH-camrs.
LOL at the cover of JD GOLF.
Loving this series! That mech game would have been pretty badass on the M2. Shame that it, that cute em' up, and the Need for Speed game was canceled.
Great stuff. Definitely keep up the obscurity.
I really enjoy your videos
Always happy to hear this. Thanks!
Do you have a patreon account?
No Patreon.
Man, I hope that Konami shooter gets released at some point.
I doubt it, but you never know.
On the cover of that golf game, is that dude smoking a cigarette??
That's the dude!
EA Sports games have a locked release window... so Madden is always first in the year and if the system was slated any time before August then NHL 98 would not have been out yet
That’s a good point.
@@Jenovi I thought it was nhl 97
NHL 97 / Madden 98
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No D2?!
I covered it. Can't remember in what part though.
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