Easily Repair Oil Canning On Classic Cars and Trucks
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- I had a couple dents in the roof of the 1953 Chevy truck. This seemed like a good opportunity to demonstrate repairing an oil can in a low crown panel without shrinking. Often panels will oil can due to a false stretch caused by existing damage on the panel. Repairing the damage restores strength to the panel. Even a small ding or dent in a low crown panel can cause an oil canning condition so it's important to repair all damage before attempting to shrink the metal.
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You make it look easier than it actually is. But your ability to explain what your doing is above and beyond most other channels. Two thumbs up
Thanks very much!
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I can see it, and can't wait to see the after picture. I never knew it was even possible to do the kind of repairs that you make look easy. What you have is a gift that you have prefected with time I'm sure.
Thanks for doing a real-time episode on low-crown oil canning. You're not only a talented artisan but you have a gift for teaching. Well done.
Thanks Bruce!
Good methods. It's cool that Jim and Matt stopped by.
You, them and CWM make my days.
Thanks very much for watching this stuff!
Either u look really young for 60, have a great mentor or truly one the best metal mechanics I know.
I'm a young looking 60 year old
Like a lot of things it takes skill to get to where you are, it takes patience to learn and realize that you can't learn by just watching. Craftsmanship is being lost because everyone wants a CNC solution to a problem that would have to been easily fixed by a craftsman. Sadly few craftsman are being trained today, this has been going on for years. There are some things that can be fixed better by a machine, many can't be, at least not without spending a fortune. Love watching craftsmen, you people north of the USA seem to be more interested in craftsmanship, I am subbed to Strong's Garage, D&D, Halfassed Customs, and the one that drug a Missouri boy's attention north of the border, ColdwarMotors. I have decided the cold winters with snow measured by meters and any temperature less than -25C is considered warm has something to do with it. Keep it up, I am too old to do anything but watch but watching you can count me in.
This is all very true! Thanks for watching!
Wetting the roof sure made it easier for us to see the damage and the repair! Great idea!
Thanks! I can't take credit for the idea, it's an old trick
@@CarterAutoRestyling You are very skilled. I need to get some old doors and a couple hammers and start learning. (I am sure I will be horrible, but the experience would be worth it just playing around with dents)
Where did you learn to do that? This is old world type of workmanship! This is how I was taught long before you were born! LOL To say the least, I am impressed. In addition, you gave an excellent description of why this was required and how it was done. This is stuff that is not taught in trade schools anymore. All they know how to do is torch things then stuff them with plastic! Either that or cut it way completely and weld in a totally new panel.
This was well done video and a joy to see a younger person who was taught, or learned, the correct way to do repairs!
Thanks Steve. I actually learned all this in the autobody trade school we have here in Saskatchewan Canada.
oh that was an excellent Video. initially I thought 'oil canning' meant topping up my engine oil with a vintage oil can! 😄
Joined today under advisement from Strong's Garage. Enjoying your content... from central Virginia.
Thanks for making the trek over here and watching!
You made it look easy. I can't imagine trying to do this. Thank you for doing it in real time.
Thank you!
Thanks Kyle.
New panels or 1/2" of filler are the only techniques that collision shops and the 'bodymen' I've ever seen in person use. I've tried over the years to self learn and do my own body work because I care more about my vehicles than that. I am by no means great at it, but I know I can do better than they do where they beat everything concave with a pickaxe finish, then shovel on the bondo like they're laying bricks. Vids like this give me hope that I can learn and improve as I go.
Haha the cave and pave method is a tried and true technique for doing bodywork, but it can often be faster to get the metal back into shape rather than sculpting it out if plastic.
Thank you for showing some interesting techniques. I'm amazed at how quickly great skill and knowledge can make that repair. I will admit while watching this I kept thinking about the odds of a tiny glass fragment still being in the windshield where you were sitting. That would be my luck. Cheers!
Thanks! I did make sure to clean away all the broken glass first, but still managed to stab myself in the leg with the shifter.
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Great job Kyle. You make it look easy. It’s surprising how quickly you sorted the issue. That looked like a fair amount of oil canning.
Thanks, the idea was to show others that a lot of this stuff isn't as complicated as they've been lead to believe
Nice work. I'll have to try that on my 52 Ford F6 COE when I start working on it.
you just need a nice thick layer of hot sauce bondo on top now.
Years ago a mate and myself scored a rare old Mercedes out of a wreckers yard. There was another car on top which had dinged the roof badly. Once the other car was off and the car was in the shop, My mate took one look and within an hour or so had removed most signs of the damage by doing as Kyle did .Didn't even have to put paint on it.
That's a great story! Thanks for sharing
Thanks for slow walking us through how you slapped the oil can it was helpful
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for taking the time to make a well produced video. Your ability to explain what you are doing is worth so much!
I was just thinking about needing examples of what your dolly hand was doing and presto you read my mind. Real time demonstration and repetition are how I learn. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
This is very helpful. It's the reason i started watching. Thanks Kyle ⚒
Thanks for watching Randy!
Someone's great grandma put those dents in there 😉 nice fix man!
Haha probably!
i was total blow away how you done with simple tools now i can fix my roof my truck thank you again
Thanks! I try to keep things simple because I don't have fancy tools
Kyle your work is Excellent, Thanks for sharing this. You can't find talent everywhere, as I see the Craftsmanship in come out of every thing you touch!!
Thanks Tom!
Kyle: It's guys like you that make me look like a hack (which: a) I am and b) It's pretty easy)! Another incredible metal tutorial! I've been rewatching the 32 Chevy coupe rehab and I wish I had a tenth of your talent!
Thanks Glenn!
Doing the "wrong" thing here is could reap a lot of extra work and frustration. Thanks for the excellent explanation !
Yeah I don't recommend using a pickaxe or sledge hammer to knock out dents haha. Thanks for watching
Thanks for another good lesson, Professor Carter.
Hey.. you rank higher than the toy to the cat. That is impressive!
Thanks Joe. I spend most of the time in the garage so I guess the cat misses me haha
It's good to be appreciated by at least one creature. ;)
How would you go about taking the rust off that roof? Do you have a video on doing that? Thanks for sharing this video.
I'd sand as much of it off as I could with 80 grit and strip disks, then remove the rest chemically with a product like naval jelly.
Sorry I took so long to
comment on how much this helpful tip depressed me.
Tomorrow I start welding up the non-existent floors of a 59 Apache.
Keep up the good work
Joe in Montreal
Hi Joe! Best of luck to you on the Apache floors!
@@CarterAutoRestyling thank you Kyle
I’m recently retired and I think I’m doing this as therapy…
Cheers.
Love when people can explain what they’re doing
Dang , you got some talent
Thank you!
Nice job Kyle. I'm glad you did another video of fixing the tin can issue. I'm having some issues with my door skins, and this video will hopefully help me to get it fixed. I'll probably need to do some shrinking, but I'll get up a video soon to show my progress. The roof of the 36 will need some of this type of body work, so thanks again.
Thanks Ken, hopefully this video was helpful
👍🏻I had that same problem, but didn’t have the knowledge to fix it like you. Thanks for sharing!!!
Thanks for watching!
Once again I've learned something from you. I'll put that technique to work on fixing the dents in the roof of my 1942 ford panel truck 👍
That's great, good luck with the panel truck repair!
Love the clean shaven face. Handsome. Enjoyed the better voice inflection. Really adds to your comments.
Thank you for showing how to fix this issue. Great job
Thanks!
Thank you. You are an excellent teacher. That was a great way to fix oil canning.
Thanks glad you found it helpful!
Excellent video. It helps me as I've been driving myself mad working on a Rolls-Royce roof for several months. A previous owner shrunk some areas then sandblasted most of it. A real horror show.
That sounds like a real mess! Good luck!
Always fun to watch your videos again. Fast forward a year and your appearance is slightly changed and Allen has what looks like the same mouse a little worse for the wear and I'm still baking. The beauty of short term memory loss is everything is new. It's all about perspectives.
Thanks for rewatching, if it wasn't for viewers with short term memory loss, non of my videos would get views
Very nice job and explanation of your work. The results speak for themselves.
Thank you!
I'll add my redundant praise to the heap and thank you for the well presented tutorial!
So Bill, how did you spend Father's Day? - I watched a guy hit a piece of rusty metal and then rub it. - Did you enjoy it? - Hell yes!
Haha
Thank you for explaining what your doing helps so much! Great work
All you said made sense to me. I got good visual picture in my head of what it was and what you where doing. Not sure I would of tried that on my own.
Thanks, glad my rambling made some sense haha
Thanks for posting Kyle another great tutorial .I really appreciate the way you explain why and how you do things and as usual the results are outstanding. I wish I could afford for you to work on my cars .will just keep praying for the lottery win.
Thanks Peter!
Keep up the good work kyle.you have a great channel
Thanks Willie!
Superb job. Well thought out video presentation. Your camera angles excellent and your explanations are clear.
Thanks!
Very helpful video. Glad you explained the technique. Roof looks good from my house. 💯
Thanks, glad you found it useful!
Good work Kyle, keep at it!
metal and some people have a memory ... if you hit metal over and over again in the right places, it will remember where it started life ,,, no commit as to people - can't remember ⚒ nice work
Haha, sometimes metal is smarter than people!
@@CarterAutoRestyling definitely holds true nowadays most are from another planet
Good TIPS. Thanks for sharing.
Rick
Thanks!
Getting it to 90% ? That’s an A+ where I went to school. Yes, I went to school. 😀
I would have settled for b-!
@@CarterAutoRestyling B- totally a pass . That’s fine too
Confused !! When does the oil can come into play and what brand of oil can do you use ?? Another learning video, great job even though my oil cans are plastic. Lol
Thanks Joe. Sorry to hear about your oil cans
Hey Kyle! Another great demo! One more important thing about fixing roof and hood dents like that is that they won't hold water and rust out the panel... I have a 41 Plymouth that could have been saved if the roof hadn't been left caved in and full of water for so long... Cheers buddy! (PS: Jim's A is pretty sweet, hey? I'll have to go have a look this week...)
Saw the A on their channel.
I’m sure the 41 can still be saved - basically anything can- just costs more , especially ‘cause time is money
Yeah I've run into a few like that as well. The worst part is it usually only takes a couple strategically placed kicks to remove the worst of it so it's at least not holding water, but it's already several decades too late for most of them.
Very nice job Kyle
Nice job mate.👍
Great Video. I learned a lot
Excellent.
Yeah, strongs new car is just amazing.... You definitely bang to the beat of a different drummer. In a great way... Nice work on the cab top... That truck will be a nice truck to drive around in later.... Great work... Oh BTW, if you like laughing watch c90 adventures. Thats a honda 90 on a trip from alaska to argentina...lots of laughs..
Thanks haha. And thank you for the channel recommendation too
I enjoyed this video, learned a lot, thanks
Quality repair! sounds like you know what your doing! sometimes pressure overnight with a porto power will jog the metals memory! hahaha
I just make things up as I go. I prefer to just weld the porta power in place, that way the owner can adjust the dent to suit their fancy.
Thank you.
Thanks for watching and supporting the show!
masterful job. thanks for showing your technique. being from united states myself; it seems like canada has a leg up on us down here. keep up the good work. (you are from canada, aren't you?) it also seems like you have more freedom in canada than we here in the united states. i envy that. thank you very much.imho,edwinstarr22
Thanks. Canada used to be a great country, but it's gone downhill bad. You are much better off in the States.
I was waiting for you to break into song.....We will, we will rock you! 😄
Ha! No musical interludes on this show!
@@CarterAutoRestyling ☹
Follow the crease with the spoon as you push up! Right? 👍👍👍😁💥
That's right!
Awesome work. Thanks for sharing.
Yet another informative video....alway learn something ....
Thanks Joe!
One day you'll use that bondo!
Just used a bunch of it last night haha
Some people pop the dinner from the top using the torch but that method will cause more oil Canning if you're not really careful
As always, nice, cared for work... Looking at the rust on this roof, I was wondering if you were a fan of the chemical remover (such as Evaporust, for exemple...)? I do not remember seeing one of your vids about that...
Don't have any videos on that. Tried evaporust and wasn't too impressed. Products like naval jelly seem to work well at getting rust out of all the pits.
So when you were slapping you were holding the dolly on the underside more toward the centre of the roof and slapping on the ridge?
Yes that is correct
@@CarterAutoRestyling you made that look so easy and in real time. Reminds me of a thing my dad told me “you’re not paying me for the half hour it took me to do this, you’re paying for the 20 years of experience that enables me to do this in only half an hour”
I see it Moe.... Thumbs Up Dude.....
Can you show how you remove dents when there is limited access from behind. I am building a ‘29 model a coupe with a dented skin on the trunk lid with the inner skin blocking most of the access.
I have a model A decklid I will be repairing eventually on the channel. The best way is to split the outer skin off so you have full access to the backside. It's that or use a Unispotter and make a mess of it.
Any tips for doing this with a panel that you don’t want to disturb the paint on? I’ve got a door that has a big oil canning dent, but the car is original paint.
Tape up the face of the tools or better yet find a good pdr guy. I'm not great at salvaging paint haha
Are the cats, house cats ie stay in all the time or are they outside a lot of the time?.
I have two rescue cats one stays indoors mostly and the other stays outside mostly and I also have three rescue dogs. 👍🏴
These are indoor cats. They wouldn't know what to do outside haha. That's a great collection of animals you have!
Happy cat fathers day bro
Thank you!
Carter, I apologize if you have covered this before but, did you receive any formal training on your metal work or are you se.f taught? Either way, your skills are amazing. Chip Foose could use a man like you 👍
I'm a certified autobody tech so most of that training translates over.
Thanks!
The man, the Shrinker, the cat whisperer……
I have an 86 like this but has 2 panels, what do you do there?
It’s a shame what you use Gandma’s silver pie slice server for!
Kidding!
Maybe a little sanding around the rim of the cave in will reveal it to the camera’s eye
Yeah sanding would have helped, but we were trying to preserve the "patina" on this one
Love the real time footage and the explanation along the way. It allows one to better understand how to fix things properly. You have a very good channel, except that I find one thing to be very disappointing........ It's been 5 month and you have yet to wear your restored jacket :(
I put the restored jacket away because it's the giveaway prize when the channel hits 50k subscribers. Don't want to ruin it for the lucky winner
I ran across this video while trying to figure out the best way to attack a similar job. My problem is that my truck roof is a mid 80's that has no access to the bottom of the panel due to it being double walled. I have the same oil can situation and I have no idea how to fix it. Any ideas how you would go about it?
There's not really a good way to get it straight again without access to the back. You're going to have to use a dent puller like a Unispotter to get it close and then fill the rest. The only other option is to cut out the inner panel, work the roof and then weld the inner panel back in.
Trying to learn some techniques - wondering if you come back to this older video and can comment oil canning a little more regarding moving metal (like your slapping here around the edge of the oil can, I am guessing in an effort to push the metal back into the middle a little) - I saw you were focused on the outside edges here -- VS -- putting a MIG tac or torching in the middle and rapidly cooling --VS -- using a shrink disc over a larger area and rapidly cooling? Looks like all techniques work but maybe they all have a good place?
The idea is to remove all the damage from the panel first. If there is still an oil can after, then shrink the highest point. Often, simply removing all the damage from a panel will fix the oil can. I've seen a lot of folks resort to shrinking too early, which results in the panel becoming over shrunk and only makes the oil can worse, or destroys the shape of the panel
Yes, I remember you saying that in this video too. It was a large dent and crease in the hood (something heavy fell on it). Done my best "Kyle impersonation" (even sarcasm pretending to talk to an audience - but its ok my neighbours already think/know I am crazy)
COOL ! WORK !!!!
Thank you!
any news on the engine freed up yet ?
Still siezed!
That was interesting! I see that the playoff beard is gone.
Didn't know there was a playoff
@@CarterAutoRestyling yeah. It’s an annual thing with hockey, and other sports as well. Maybe they should have playoffs for metal shaping. You would do well!
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Thanks!
that will work about 5-10% of the time
Repairing all the damage on a panel only works 5 to 10 percent of the time?
no, removing oil canning by hammer and dollying and not having to use heat. @@CarterAutoRestyling
That's too much work. Just lay back on the seat and .... 👣
I do all the work so the audience doesn't have to.
I like the real time stuff, it shows the technique that you use for great repairs, thanks Kyle, we enjoy these
Thanks Jeff!
I can picture some wild grandkids climbing all over this truck and standing on the top. They probably have grandkids of themselves now.
Yeah someone was definitely jumping all over the hood and roof of this thing!
Thank you, Thank you for posting these videos. I am amazed by the transformation of the metal. You are a wonderful teacher. Please don’t listen to the naysayers.
Thanks!
Yes, Strong’s garage is another fine channel. Keep up the good work 👍
Good stuff, excellent explanantion. Thank you.
I'm sure even the cats could so it... if they had opposable thumbs😅
Thanks Buddy, I was just about to get the torch out after watching other videos about removing oil canning. Now Ill try this first
The title really confused me! Left me wondering how you repair oil canning when we all know oil comes in plastic bottles. Any way ya made the repair look easy because ya got skills!! Great explanation and video!
Funny thing Ken those were my exact thoughts, just read your comment my comment was was almost identical lol
It's an old truck so we have to pretend oil still comes in cans to keep the repair period correct.
@@joepacheco4038 lol but yeah! Kyle has a lot of skills for how young he is! Thinking someone had to tell him oil use to come in cans haha
Good tips. Thank you 🍻😎
thank you
What with you living in the icy Northland, which is up there in the same latitudes as places like Manchester, I'm guessing that either your house is very well insulated, your neighbours are deaf, or they're all Canadian. Which is it? Nice banging, by the way!
Maybe it's all three?
@@CarterAutoRestyling : Nobody could be THAT lucky!
ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT
I bet that was a little uncomfortable.
OH NO!!! I suppose that Oscar and I will have to go "mouse" shopping.
I hope Oscar is a better mouser than my cats!
Thanks really enjoyed the video and possibly learnt some techniques I can retain. 😁👍
Glad to hear you found some of this useful!
Scott from ColdWarMotors was right really great info and content, Thanks.......
Glad you are enjoying Scott's recommendation!