Good evening, more great info about sheet metal shrinking. Occasionally I use this lost art on current vehicles. Your right alot of the old skills are being lost to a can of bondo. Thanks for another great video. You take care and good luck.
I bought a little torch that uses MAP Pro gas and O2. IT works very well in shrinking the metal. I did both bed sides of a pretty bent up 1956 Chevy pickup. Worked great
I got one too and yes it works good but I ended up getting a big set of torches because I was going to spend more on them little tanks of oxygen then it was to buy a big set
nice video, thnx. there are specially made nozzles for propane torch, that make condensed conical blast with i think higher temperatures etc. do you think, in this case propane torch could be somehow useable for diy-er? any chance to make video about it?
Sorry but I don’t want to try and copy the book. I think a print shop would not want to do it due to copyright issues . I would suggest searching online for a used copy. Once again I’m sorry I can’t help with that. Thanks for watching
Well there are different propane torches that produce a more compact flame so you don't get that kind of wide distribution of heat, so with one of those torch heads it might actually work. Oxy/Atcl is much better and faster though.
In my village we had fire torch like you but premier Bolka took it use on gun boat. I try hand fire but no work good you so lucke. Much happy. What name of book
How would you go about shrinking a debt that you don’t have access to rear side of the panel for pushing dent out and dolly/hammer access, like the bottom side of a tailgate or body side?
Some times you just can’t shrink so you have to try pulling the dent on with a stud gun or pull rods. There’s really no clear cut answer as every dent is different. Thanks for watching
It’s not impossible but not likely. You still have to move metal around to take care the oil canning . Doing this without damage is usually not possible. Sorry I couldn’t help. Thanks for watching
There’s really no end to how much you can shrink. You can do as many as need over a large area to work it down. When this was a common practice I remember sometimes having to do 15 or 20 on a panel if that’s what it took. Great question. Thanks for watching.
Good question. It’s possible but I don’t know for sure. Sheet metal is low carbon so it could harden but only in the spot that was heated red hot. It wouldn’t affect the rest of the panel to cause any straightening issues. Thanks for watching
I have a large area that is low, about a 1/4 inch. Do I need to push that out in order to start shrinking it? It had a bunch of filler in it, I have removed it all back to metal, I’m going to weld in a new panel on the lower area and I want to remove the low area as much as I can. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Yep. You must push out the panel before shrinking. You always want it to be high and the shrinking process will lower it where you need it. Good luck with your project and thanks for watching
@@autobodytrainingsolutions838 thanks! I’ll have to work on this one for a while I suspect, the low area is the size of a basketball. Im trying to video each step on my repair/restoration. Let me know if you want to see any of it. Don
Can I use the torch to heat the metal to cherry red and then use the dolly to push the dent out and then apply water to shrink? I'm trying to repair a dent on driver side quarter panel of a Honda S2000 and there is no roomm for a hammer and barely any room for a dolly.
I wouldn’t recommend it. With the panel already pushed in, heating in this position would push it in further and be almost impossible to straighten it correctly. Thanks for watching
I used to have a mushroom head for my Auto Arc (Miller) stud gun that would heat the panel up real fast and no dicking around having to relight a torch for every shrink. And, yes, I also have a couple of those relighting torch rests but this was faster. Also, remember there used to be a "shrinking tip" for gas welders that somehow pulled oxygen through the backside of what looked like a propane tip? Got one of those too somewhere, next to that spray leader filed under dinosaur equipment. I went to autobody school in 1976 too...shame it's gone but then not much gets fixed anymore and all the industry cares about is if you're fucking Icar certified! This is what happens when you let insurance companies rule an industry.
I have one of those tips for the stud gun. Did a video with it a few years ago. You’re correct about the insurance companies. The owner of the vehicle doesn’t have much say in how their car gets repaired anymore. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching.
The collision industry has changed So Much in the last 30 yrs.
I enjoyed watching this. Great job explaining.
i love your show ..the way you teach how you talk slow and calm and the way you explain the important tech impho ..keep up the good work
I appreciate that! Thanks for watching
Its difficult to make a video like this, esp someone who actually knows what he is doing and is able to teach something correctly
Thanks again for a great, and timely, video. Just the info I needed to repair the quarter panel on my 2018 SS Camaro.
Good evening, more great info about sheet metal shrinking. Occasionally I use this lost art on current vehicles. Your right alot of the old skills are being lost to a can of bondo. Thanks for another great video. You take care and good luck.
Great to hear from you Steve. It’s been a while. Thanks for watching
Great video Greg - keep up the good work my friend 👍🎄😊
Thanks for checking it out Jerry.
Nice explanations, thank you for this professional lesson!
Thanks for checking it out
Hey thanks! Got lots of shrinking to do on a former cave and pave on a classic.
I bought a little torch that uses MAP Pro gas and O2. IT works very well in shrinking the metal. I did both bed sides of a pretty bent up 1956 Chevy pickup. Worked great
Good to know. Thanks for watching
I got one too and yes it works good but I ended up getting a big set of torches because I was going to spend more on them little tanks of oxygen then it was to buy a big set
@@toodjackson4438 Too true, those little O2 cylinders are not cheap. I only needed one on my bed sides.
Awesome video!..Glad i did my research!
nice video, thnx. there are specially made nozzles for propane torch, that make condensed conical blast with i think higher temperatures etc. do you think, in this case propane torch could be somehow useable for diy-er? any chance to make video about it?
I haven’t tried one but I may look into that for a video. Thanks for watching
Great job, could I get print out of your book?
Sorry but I don’t want to try and copy the book. I think a print shop would not want to do it due to copyright issues . I would suggest searching online for a used copy. Once again I’m sorry I can’t help with that. Thanks for watching
Well there are different propane torches that produce a more compact flame so you don't get that kind of wide distribution of heat, so with one of those torch heads it might actually work. Oxy/Atcl is much better and faster though.
YT keeps changing my name/channel, good to see a new vid sir, Richard
Good to hear from you Richard. Thanks for watching
I have an old torch like that, are there different types of conections? What type are the old ones?
My setup is a 40 year old Snapon torch. I don’t know who actually made it or if it’s compatible with another brand. Thanks for watching
In my village we had fire torch like you but premier Bolka took it use on gun boat. I try hand fire but no work good you so lucke. Much happy. What name of book
Did you watch the video?
How would you go about shrinking a debt that you don’t have access to rear side of the panel for pushing dent out and dolly/hammer access, like the bottom side of a tailgate or body side?
Some times you just can’t shrink so you have to try pulling the dent on with a stud gun or pull rods. There’s really no clear cut answer as every dent is different. Thanks for watching
Is there a technique to fix an oil can in a door panel without harming the paint?
It’s not impossible but not likely. You still have to move metal around to take care the oil canning . Doing this without damage is usually not possible. Sorry I couldn’t help. Thanks for watching
How much can you shrink the area? I have a 1/4" high spot over a 6 inch area (deep dent that stretched the metal).
There’s really no end to how much you can shrink. You can do as many as need over a large area to work it down. When this was a common practice I remember sometimes having to do 15 or 20 on a panel if that’s what it took. Great question. Thanks for watching.
does heat shrinking metal make it harder to work?
Good question. It’s possible but I don’t know for sure. Sheet metal is low carbon so it could harden but only in the spot that was heated red hot. It wouldn’t affect the rest of the panel to cause any straightening issues. Thanks for watching
I have a large area that is low, about a 1/4 inch. Do I need to push that out in order to start shrinking it? It had a bunch of filler in it, I have removed it all back to metal, I’m going to weld in a new panel on the lower area and I want to remove the low area as much as I can. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Yep. You must push out the panel before shrinking. You always want it to be high and the shrinking process will lower it where you need it. Good luck with your project and thanks for watching
@@autobodytrainingsolutions838 thanks! I’ll have to work on this one for a while I suspect, the low area is the size of a basketball. Im trying to video each step on my repair/restoration. Let me know if you want to see any of it.
Don
Can I use the torch to heat the metal to cherry red and then use the dolly to push the dent out and then apply water to shrink?
I'm trying to repair a dent on driver side quarter panel of a Honda S2000 and there is no roomm for a hammer and barely any room for a dolly.
I wouldn’t recommend it. With the panel already pushed in, heating in this position would push it in further and be almost impossible to straighten it correctly. Thanks for watching
can you please teach me how to use a shrinking disk
I’ve never used a shrinking disc but maybe I’ll get one and try it out. Thanks for watching
Thanks for the video.
You need to use the yellow canister it's a hotter gas that's what the plumbers use
I used to have a mushroom head for my Auto Arc (Miller) stud gun that would heat the panel up real fast and no dicking around having to relight a torch for every shrink. And, yes, I also have a couple of those relighting torch rests but this was faster. Also, remember there used to be a "shrinking tip" for gas welders that somehow pulled oxygen through the backside of what looked like a propane tip? Got one of those too somewhere, next to that spray leader filed under dinosaur equipment. I went to autobody school in 1976 too...shame it's gone but then not much gets fixed anymore and all the industry cares about is if you're fucking Icar certified! This is what happens when you let insurance companies rule an industry.
I have one of those tips for the stud gun. Did a video with it a few years ago. You’re correct about the insurance companies. The owner of the vehicle doesn’t have much say in how their car gets repaired anymore. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching.
Once you heat the high spot, you need to work the steel back into the centre..
Not just beat it down. 😂😂😂😂😂
Correct. You should’ve watched the video 😂😂😂😂😂