I purchased the same exact wheels for my 2022 Model 3 Performance because I knew there wasn't enough meat on the tires for the Northeast (I live on Long Island). I then decided to put on the 20" wheels in the summer, justifying that it's the summer and I wouldn't hit any potholes. Sure enough, I hit an exposed drain on the Southern State Parkway when they were repaving. I sliced open both my passenger side front and rear tires and had to call my father to bring my jack and 2 of the 18 inch tires so I could at least get myself home. That was during the summer of 2022 and I have had the 18" T-Sportsline wheels on my Model 3 Performance with no issues. Currently, I have the All Season Michelin Pilot sport tires on my car (235/45/R18) and they are cooked at only 25k miles , partially because they are non-ev tires and partially because I drive like a maniac. After some research I am going to try the new Hankook iOn EVO AS performance tire (a designated EV tire). The manufacturers warranty is a boastful 50,000 miles and if I get get 45,000 or better on them (which is about 2 years of driving for me), I will be very happy. They are $257 a tire installed which is the same for the Michelin Pilot Sport All Seasons. We'll see. Great video. Great minds think alike.
one of the main reason i want to buy the performance version is the wheels...i don't go on long road trip nor race at the tracks..i just want a cool looking car...but that just me...i totally understand you reasoning...thanks for the information!
@@Adventures_with_nick there is a reason why the lower profile tyre is fitted. The smaller side wall flexes less and is much more precise than a tyre with a taller side wall. Your responses to me earlier and to this person are misleading only to attempt to reinforce your stupid ill-advised thinking.
@@ElmoBHD David you misunderstood my response here, I am stating the 21” rim is superior for cornering performance. What about my other comments is stupid thinking? What I have stated is true I’m willing to back up my claims
@@ElmoBHD please challenge me on my previous statements I want you to see the facts in the physics. I’m not the one making this stuff up. I can also back up my claims to insurance requirements and warrenty specifications
The stock 21” rim is going to be much better in terms of cornering performance because the 9.5” width rim in the front and 10.5” rim in the back allows for a wider tire which is going to give you superior grip. There is a comment here about flex difference which is false because the tire is exactly the same as my setup which is a Michelin Pilot Sport 4 all season tire. The difference here is the aspect ratio on the performance is 35 which means there is less side wall. The stock tire is stretch as a result which is great for high amounts of force when turning sharply, it’s going to grip amazing
Awesome! For your long range I am very curious to see if you notice improvements! 19” vs 18” is a small change but there should be some weight saving and also the wheel is 1 inch more narrow. But what is the original tire type?
@@rynvhe Hey Ryan I also have a Model YLR with the 19inch wheels and I'm on the fence to order the 18 inch wheels let me know if the car feels smoother so I I can order them and do you notice if the car is lower in height with the 18 inch compared to the 19 inch. Thanks and of course great video Nick very informative.
I literally was talking about this concept st tesla yesterday because my 21s have been cracked 4 times by these stupid potholes. I'm definitely going to look into this option.
Good video. It’s difficult to prescribe what’s best for each person’s situation . I have a 2021 MYP & I opted to stick with the 21 inch Uberturbine wheels. Mine came with performance summer tires importantly. I’m in the NE US & have to deal with ice & snow. I have a separate winter setup with 19” T Sportline wheels and Michelin snow tires. I use the summer set up Apr through Oct and the winter set up the other months. They both work great and I don’t personally see the need to change my summer set up to the Martian wheels but understand why you & others may prefer this set up. I had a bad experience with all season tires in the winter some time ago. They don’t give you max performance in the summer or winter. In essence they are a compromise. BTW, the potholes here can easily take out an 18/19 inch tire/wheel set up so there is still a risk. 21’s do run a higher risk. Recently, I saw a MYP with the 21 all season set up & I cringed. Possible they don’t drive that car much in the winter.
Your setup is actually ideal! I plan on getting dedicated winters on an 18” wheel setup soon. Once I have that I may miss having performance tires for summer track fun…
I have a Model 3 dual motor and a Model Y LR, and I've been going through the same thought process which you have gone through here. What I may have missed, but I don't think you mentioned, is the possibility of increased range because 8.5 inch wide tires present less wind resistance than do 9.5 inch wide tires. Skeptics: You know how much attention to wheel aerodynamic qualities--why not the same scrutiny for the width of the tires? That seems even more significant. I have 20-inch OE wheels on my Y. ASAP I am downsizing to either 19s or, more likely, 18s. It looks to me at this point that smaller wheels offer better ride, less unsprung weight, roughly the same revolutions per mile, better snow and off-road capabilities, perhaps cheaper tire replacement, less curbing danger, less pothole damage, slightly more range (because they're more efficient). 21" or even my 20" wheels are for looks only (and that's subjective). Really, it's for the boy racer in you. There might be a slight handling edge to larger wheels, but that, really, is a track day thing only. My Model 3 with 18-inch wheels handles better than my MYLR with 20s . . . and does all the things I just mentioned better than the Y. I'm convinced: Downsize. 19s or 18s. (Yeah, I know, the Model 3 is lower, smaller, etc.) I remember Porsche stating several years ago that anything bigger than 18-inches is a waste.
For a more accurate comparison of unsprung weight you need to consider the entire wheel + tire weight and not just of the wheels alone. I do agree that 18-inch is the way to go, and that Tesla should offer this.
That’s a very good point. These tires Weigh 29 pounds on top of a 22 pound wheel (51 pounds together) Stock for performance is 28 and 27 pounds for tire and 38 and 39 for wheel (66 pounds each). Although 15 pounds per tire doesn’t seem much, it means a lot for unsprung mass. Also less width on the rim 8.5 inches vs 9.5 and 10.5 so less rolling resistance and air drag
I'd look at a 19" rim with 50 series. For those who don't have a Performance Y, you already have the 19" stock wheels. Just a matter of getting a taller tire and hopefully recalibrate the speedometer in the menu.
Owned many German cars ,always sized tires up, pothole bent wheel is no.1 enemy of cars life span. Slight bent further damages axles ,control arm bushes. Always size up if there is room.
If I got the MYP I'd have totally done this! But I wanted the 7 seat option, so I went with a LR with 20" Induction wheels and the speed boost. Honestly the ride quality is really nice and I never really worry about my 20's.
The 21s didn’t work for me, I wanted to be able to put in bigger tires for camping and snow trips. You should check out my channel and see what camping in the model y is like!
@@CurieBohr 4.3 seconds with the software upgrade vs 3.5 seconds (3.4 with these tires) is not a minuscule difference. The difference is 0.6G vs almost 0.9G, I’ve been able to record. You notice it for sure. I can even notice the difference between a model 3 performance. Just like you would notice getting in a Plaid 1.3-1.4G
@@Adventures_with_nick the official numbers that Tesla puts out have been proven inaccurate repeatedly. Dyno numbers don’t translate to the real world. Real world numbers are a nothing burger. Even if they were accurate, they’re not, getting to 60 like 0.5 seconds quicker is lame. Who cares 🤣
@@CurieBohr idk I mean every time I floor it I’m constantly getting to 60 well under 4 seconds! And it’s the instant acceleration to get up to speed that I like
Here’s my honest question … I got a m3P is a 19” rim better then a 20” wheel for range ? And ride quality better ? Can’t find a 18” rim that’s not super expensive
I absolutely hated those 21" rubber band wheels. I quickly put TSportLine 18" wheels on my Model Y Performance and really like the beefier look of the side walls. I also like that the tires protect the rims from curb rash, Tesla needs to stop using rims that stick out even with the tires. But did you change the setting so the computer can calculate speedometer correctly for the tires? Obviously there is no 18" setting so the 19" choice is the best we have.
For MY P owners, you can upgrade your tires: All seasons - Front: 265/35/21 Rear: 295.35/21. These tires will have a square ends compared to the originals 255/35/21 n 275/35/21 stretched tires exposed rims to the curb if you're terrible in parking, lol. But again it's all preference though....for Tesla current owners have fun driving n for future owners you'll not gonna regret buying it..not going back to drive ice cars again...I owned 3 - M3 n 2 MY LR - gemini n induction wheels it's all compelling to drive...
My question is whether an 18" wheel option shows up on the setup screen, where you tell the car what type of tires you have, and whether or not the aero wheel covers are on. If the 18 doesn't show up, I'm guessing that you'd have to set if for the 19? I don't own a Y now, but I do have an order in for one. I would much prefer to run it with 18s, due to the cost savings when replacements inevitably come due.
Exactly that’s something I forgot to mention. No the car only goes to 19s but I haven’t found this feature to be practical or needed. The speedometer is off by 1 mph. Going 70 or 80 is like 69 or 79
@@Adventures_with_nick yeah please do! It could be up to 0.4s faster 0.60, that is ALOT.. a test out there on YT verifies it, but it has too small wheels (effective lower gear ratio because of it)
@@Adventures_with_nickI put 18” wheels on my M3LR with acceleration boost today, reducing size from 19” in order to get a more comfortable ride and hopefully improve range. I didn’t expect that the most noticeable difference would be how QUICK the acceleration feels compared to before. 3 lbs less unsprung weight at each corner seems; to my seat of the pants feel, to be markedly quicker.
Interesting discussion. I’ve been looking into changing my MYP wheels. I would like to get better protection because I’ll be giving the vehicle to my wife and she doesn’t get the fact that these 21s are easy to curb. I have decided to go with 20s. With 20’s I get a little of everything, comfort, protection and the looks are not sacrificed as much as with a 18s or 19s. Has anyone gone with 20s and noticed a range increase?
Thank you, I am interested in this as well, the difference in weight savings is marginal between 21 and 20, aerodynamics of the wheel may indicate the difference
Michelin Pilot Sport 4 is a great wheel for all season and performance. If you want a softer ride, Michelin makes a really good grand touring tire, all season, Michelin primacy tour
While I understand why 18" but it looks funky on a MYP. I do like some 19" aftermarket wheels for my 2021 MYP which I may buy perhaps during next black friday sale. I will keep my uberturbines until I crack them.
What looks funky are those rubber band wheels. Beefier side walled tires looks very aggressive and this setup doesn't make the wheels look tiny. You know, the 2003 Corvette Z06 used 17" wheels in the front and 18"'s in the rear and it looked aggressive as all get out!
This is 245/50/18 great for range it’s a little small for my preference now, going with 255/55/18 which is the absolute biggest, it’s a small hit on range but love it
Because I can’t speak for notable improvement going from 19s to 18s, but you would notice a difference going from 20s to 18s. My advice is do not get 20s…
@@Adventures_with_nick but is there really a big difference with the 18's, i like the 21 inch wheels how they look and stuff but it seems crazy to spend 450-500 per tire if, and when i need to get all 4 done it will be over 2k just for tires, thats a little too much IMO, how much are the replacement 18's go for?
@@RigaToeKnee I just checked Tire Rack, it’s $256 per tire. That’s for the Michelin pilot sport 4 all season, the same exact tire as stock for MYP, just because it’s a smaller tire it’s much less, you made a great point, these 18” tires are much cheaper
Doesn’t have to be. Stock tires are staggered 255 front and 275 rear. This forms a slight cheetah stance. The car is already lowered compared to a model y long range so it will still have better aerodynamics as a model y P vs a long range
@@Adventures_with_nick Thanks Nick! Love the way you explain things. Got 2 questions for ya. 1. I have a MYP coming this month and considered switching to the LR because I was concerned with the low ground clearance. I don't think Tesla discloses the ground clearance of the MYP. Wouldn't reducing the wheel size bring the car down even further making it worse for potholes? 2. Debating if I should get the 19 or 20s from tlinesport with the uberturbine design. I really like the look of the filled out wheel wells on with the 21. Do you recommend a beefier tire to fill the out the space if i were to get say a 19 inch?
@@j0404t so you actually bring up my biggest complaint! The model Y performance seems to be about an inch lower to the ground than MYLR. This configuration that comes with TSportline 245/50/18, does in fact lower the front 0.38” and the back 0.93” overall 1/2 inches lower than stock. So my car sits too low for me at 5.5 inches which is like a sedan. Fuel economy is really great but the ground clearance is quite bad but I wouldn’t say it’s low enough to have disadvantages for potholes. For my next tire, I will be upgrading to 255/55/18 to fit my existing 18” wheels. The is the biggest tire you can fit (29 inches in diameter) This will make up for the MYP ground clearance and be nearly equal with MYLR. If your willing to slightly sacrifice on range, TSportline has 19 inch wheels with 275/45/19 and that will get you close to the wheel max. If you want the biggest possible wheel size, TSportline also has 18” rims with a tire 255/55/18 but it’s currently only for all terrain tires which are not great for range. Your safest bet is to get 275/45/19 but if you are willing to sacrifice ground clearance, 245/50/18 sits 1.1” lower I let you on that little secret! I’ll be switching my 18’s to a 255/55/18 tire that TSportline does not deliver. I will be going with a grand touring tire…stay tuned!
So just as long as they can support the weight of the vehicle it’s fine? I’m no expert but why wouldn’t Tesla just offer this option.Seems a bit risky to put wheels and tires made by third parties.I’m all in for more tire than what Tesla offers but maybe a deep dive of tire wear,wheel condition and handling could make people get into this more.
Because the stock wheel and tires are superior for cornering ability and handling. And that’s what is necessary for performance. This setup is going to be clumsy in that regard.
The tire is not third party, it’s the exact same tire as stock, Michelin Pilot 4 all season, the wheel is just metal but yes it supports 1,653 pounds per wheel, 6,612 pounds in total which is more than enough for its weight (4500 pounds) and leaves 2000 pounds for pay load which is 2x more than the car is rated for
They do offer this option, it’s the long range model y. I’ve simply opted for the higher performance motor and reaped the benefits of a long range model y by getting smaller tires. I could have gotten Gemini wheels 19” like what is stock on the LR and get the same range results but I went a step further with 19”a
The wheel size isn’t going to do anything for the snow, that is all tire. There are however more options for dedicated snow tires that fit 18s rather than 19s
if you live in an area like the northeast with cold snowy winters, you want the smaller rims with larger sidewall due to increased potholes in the winter from freezing and thawing roads. Otherwise with 19" you're more prone to rim cracks. Get a good snow tire as that's going to make all the difference.
@@Adventures_with_nick nice! I bought my model y performance used from a guy and it came with the oem wheels and 18in 245/50 bridgestone winter wheels from tsport. Was debating if i wanted to get A) a different tire for the 21 in rims or B) non-winter tires for 18in wheels. I am renting out the tesla for my turo business and I would HATE to deal with blowouts(i know MY(3)P are known for tire blowouts. So im trying to come up with the best financial solution to save money but also where i mitigate having phone calls saying tire blew out(or at least try to avoid these phone calls!!!
@@EmilioMendiolaJr I would keep your oem wheels for resale value because I heard it’s better to have stock for that. I sold mine and am wondering if I made a mistake…
He would have been better off getting a any set of r19in rims that uses the same offset- I own a set of mustang Mark one rams that are 19×9.5 and 19x10.5 they fit and handle very well and there inly 17lb
Well the offset being what it is for 21” Ubers is 40 front and 48 rear which is why it sticks out and prone to curb rash. Mine on these 18” wheels is 35 offset. No curb rash issues
@@thetom1309 Actually no. Rubber band wheels don't give you a quicker 0-60, they give you better road handling and a higher top end. Most people that buy a Model Y Performance really just want the 0-60 quickness and the only track they might take it to is a drag strip. But they also want to be able to get more than 303 miles of range, so the smaller and lighter 18" wheels make perfect sense. Plus, now they can be rotated in a cross pattern, instead of only side to side like with the 21" UberTurbine wheels due to the front/rear different sizes.
I have 3 Tesla - M3 RWD n 2 MY LR - w/ Gemini n Induction. Mileage wise not much of a big difference compared to 21" that's why I didn't buy. Going 18" w/ 8.5" width for me it doesn't look attractive bcuz its looks skinny profile but anyways it's preference.
Classic case of drooling over the extra bells and whistles, but couldn’t get past the fact your losing out on the durability and range. Should of just gotten the long range and saved all the hassle!
I’m cool with everything he said…. But are we really going to lie like the 21” wheels doesn’t look 10 times better. If you believe any of his points you are shopping the wrong trim. The logic of buying the performance; then spending even more to make it the long range makes no sense.
I don’t think you got the point of the video because you still get all the perks of the performance trim, except now you get more range, also additional protection. I bought the performance over the long range because of the acceleration not the wheels
Somehow I have never liked the looks of the 21" uberturbine wheels - maybe that's just me. The Martian Wheels look way better. And in short - bottom line by going to an 18" wheel you gain comfort, range, and lower the risk to the tire and wheel damage, while sacrificing a bit of cornering. The logic of spending on performance and buying a better wheel package is that you get the speed of the performance, plus performance breaks, upgraded headlights, comfort, and ability to go where you cannot with 21" wheels. For those who want to purely race, corner, and don't really care about the range, nor take it off-road then keep the 21" wheels.
I purchased the same exact wheels for my 2022 Model 3 Performance because I knew there wasn't enough meat on the tires for the Northeast (I live on Long Island). I then decided to put on the 20" wheels in the summer, justifying that it's the summer and I wouldn't hit any potholes. Sure enough, I hit an exposed drain on the Southern State Parkway when they were repaving. I sliced open both my passenger side front and rear tires and had to call my father to bring my jack and 2 of the 18 inch tires so I could at least get myself home. That was during the summer of 2022 and I have had the 18" T-Sportsline wheels on my Model 3 Performance with no issues. Currently, I have the All Season Michelin Pilot sport tires on my car (235/45/R18) and they are cooked at only 25k miles , partially because they are non-ev tires and partially because I drive like a maniac. After some research I am going to try the new Hankook iOn EVO AS performance tire (a designated EV tire). The manufacturers warranty is a boastful 50,000 miles and if I get get 45,000 or better on them (which is about 2 years of driving for me), I will be very happy. They are $257 a tire installed which is the same for the Michelin Pilot Sport All Seasons. We'll see. Great video. Great minds think alike.
Hi! Wow I am surprised to hear you only got 25k miles! I got about 35k mileage with 4mm of thread remaining (out of 1.6mm legal minimum)
Any updates on wear after 1 year?
one of the main reason i want to buy the performance version is the wheels...i don't go on long road trip nor race at the tracks..i just want a cool looking car...but that just me...i totally understand you reasoning...thanks for the information!
Your going to get the best possible performance with that wheel! In terms of cornering performance, steering response, it is superior
@@Adventures_with_nick there is a reason why the lower profile tyre is fitted. The smaller side wall flexes less and is much more precise than a tyre with a taller side wall. Your responses to me earlier and to this person are misleading only to attempt to reinforce your stupid ill-advised thinking.
@@ElmoBHD David you misunderstood my response here, I am stating the 21” rim is superior for cornering performance. What about my other comments is stupid thinking? What I have stated is true I’m willing to back up my claims
@@ElmoBHD please challenge me on my previous statements I want you to see the facts in the physics. I’m not the one making this stuff up. I can also back up my claims to insurance requirements and warrenty specifications
The stock 21” rim is going to be much better in terms of cornering performance because the 9.5” width rim in the front and 10.5” rim in the back allows for a wider tire which is going to give you superior grip. There is a comment here about flex difference which is false because the tire is exactly the same as my setup which is a Michelin Pilot Sport 4 all season tire. The difference here is the aspect ratio on the performance is 35 which means there is less side wall. The stock tire is stretch as a result which is great for high amounts of force when turning sharply, it’s going to grip amazing
I'm convinced. Just ordered 18 inch Tposrtlines for our Model YLR because of your video! Thanks!
Awesome! For your long range I am very curious to see if you notice improvements! 19” vs 18” is a small change but there should be some weight saving and also the wheel is 1 inch more narrow. But what is the original tire type?
@Adventures with Nick The Stock wheels with Aero Covers. Hoping the 18 inch tires will make the ride less bumpy.
@@rynvhe Hey Ryan I also have a Model YLR with the 19inch wheels and I'm on the fence to order the 18 inch wheels let me know if the car feels smoother so I I can order them and do you notice if the car is lower in height with the 18 inch compared to the 19 inch. Thanks and of course great video Nick very informative.
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hi, I am in the same boat with MYLR, what is the exact specifications on going from 19” to 18” please? what should I order?
Thanks for sharing your experience - Good detail and info to help Tesla nation :)
The best discovery I came across! Thank you for making an 18” rim to fit the model Y performance! 🙏
I literally was talking about this concept st tesla yesterday because my 21s have been cracked 4 times by these stupid potholes. I'm definitely going to look into this option.
Its also about the rolling resistance, small wheel, less rolling resistance= more range
YES!!! 18” wheels is the best option!!!
I think it still looks good and makes the car look more like an SUV rather than a sports car, especially if you lift it😉 just posted a video on that!
what tire brand and tire specs do you have with these 18" wheels?
Good video. It’s difficult to prescribe what’s best for each person’s situation . I have a 2021 MYP & I opted to stick with the 21 inch Uberturbine wheels. Mine came with performance summer tires importantly. I’m in the NE US & have to deal with ice & snow. I have a separate winter setup with 19” T Sportline wheels and Michelin snow tires. I use the summer set up Apr through Oct and the winter set up the other months. They both work great and I don’t personally see the need to change my summer set up to the Martian wheels but understand why you & others may prefer this set up.
I had a bad experience with all season tires in the winter some time ago. They don’t give you max performance in the summer or winter. In essence they are a compromise. BTW, the potholes here can easily take out an 18/19 inch tire/wheel set up so there is still a risk. 21’s do run a higher risk. Recently, I saw a MYP with the 21 all season set up & I cringed. Possible they don’t drive that car much in the winter.
Your setup is actually ideal! I plan on getting dedicated winters on an 18” wheel setup soon. Once I have that I may miss having performance tires for summer track fun…
I have a Model 3 dual motor and a Model Y LR, and I've been going through the same thought process which you have gone through here. What I may have missed, but I don't think you mentioned, is the possibility of increased range because 8.5 inch wide tires present less wind resistance than do 9.5 inch wide tires. Skeptics: You know how much attention to wheel aerodynamic qualities--why not the same scrutiny for the width of the tires? That seems even more significant. I have 20-inch OE wheels on my Y. ASAP I am downsizing to either 19s or, more likely, 18s. It looks to me at this point that smaller wheels offer better ride, less unsprung weight, roughly the same revolutions per mile, better snow and off-road capabilities, perhaps cheaper tire replacement, less curbing danger, less pothole damage, slightly more range (because they're more efficient). 21" or even my 20" wheels are for looks only (and that's subjective). Really, it's for the boy racer in you. There might be a slight handling edge to larger wheels, but that, really, is a track day thing only. My Model 3 with 18-inch wheels handles better than my MYLR with 20s . . . and does all the things I just mentioned better than the Y. I'm convinced: Downsize. 19s or 18s. (Yeah, I know, the Model 3 is lower, smaller, etc.) I remember Porsche stating several years ago that anything bigger than 18-inches is a waste.
I got these in 19" for my M3P. I was getting the same efficiency as the stock uberturbine but a lot more comfortable as well, while looking better!
It’s a game changer!
@@Adventures_with_nick Definitely!
Do you think 275x50x18 would fit no rubbing??
For a more accurate comparison of unsprung weight you need to consider the entire wheel + tire weight and not just of the wheels alone. I do agree that 18-inch is the way to go, and that Tesla should offer this.
That’s a very good point. These tires Weigh 29 pounds on top of a 22 pound wheel (51 pounds together) Stock for performance is 28 and 27 pounds for tire and 38 and 39 for wheel (66 pounds each). Although 15 pounds per tire doesn’t seem much, it means a lot for unsprung mass. Also less width on the rim 8.5 inches vs 9.5 and 10.5 so less rolling resistance and air drag
why didnt you get the LR over this one?
NUMBERS! WE NEED NUMBERS! How much with , how much without?
Too much info for one video! I’ve dedicated 2 videos for that on my channel
What number?
Love the information but the rims do look cruddy
I'd look at a 19" rim with 50 series. For those who don't have a Performance Y, you already have the 19" stock wheels. Just a matter of getting a taller tire and hopefully recalibrate the speedometer in the menu.
Owned many German cars ,always sized tires up, pothole bent wheel is no.1 enemy of cars life span. Slight bent further damages axles ,control arm bushes. Always size up if there is room.
If I got the MYP I'd have totally done this! But I wanted the 7 seat option, so I went with a LR with 20" Induction wheels and the speed boost. Honestly the ride quality is really nice and I never really worry about my 20's.
I think the newer model Ys have improved suspension, also model y long range in general has a different and softer set up
The 21s didn’t work for me, I wanted to be able to put in bigger tires for camping and snow trips. You should check out my channel and see what camping in the model y is like!
So this probably wouldn't do much for a Long Range sitting on 19" right?
It theoretically would help but it might be too small of a difference to justify the price.
Kind of sounds like the LR would have been a better fit for you. Plasti-dipping the LR wheels or getting nice hubcap replacements look great
I don’t know…I absolutely love the speed of the performance and I still have that. I also like the stronger braking power for safety
@@Adventures_with_nick you can pay for a software upgrade in the LR and the difference is minuscule
@@CurieBohr 4.3 seconds with the software upgrade vs 3.5 seconds (3.4 with these tires) is not a minuscule difference. The difference is 0.6G vs almost 0.9G, I’ve been able to record. You notice it for sure. I can even notice the difference between a model 3 performance. Just like you would notice getting in a Plaid 1.3-1.4G
@@Adventures_with_nick the official numbers that Tesla puts out have been proven inaccurate repeatedly. Dyno numbers don’t translate to the real world. Real world numbers are a nothing burger. Even if they were accurate, they’re not, getting to 60 like 0.5 seconds quicker is lame. Who cares 🤣
@@CurieBohr idk I mean every time I floor it I’m constantly getting to 60 well under 4 seconds! And it’s the instant acceleration to get up to speed that I like
would there be a big difference going from stock 19 to these 18s? Even with the 19s, I think the ride is too harsh
Here’s my honest question … I got a m3P is a 19” rim better then a 20” wheel for range ? And ride quality better ? Can’t find a 18” rim that’s not super expensive
I absolutely hated those 21" rubber band wheels. I quickly put TSportLine 18" wheels on my Model Y Performance and really like the beefier look of the side walls. I also like that the tires protect the rims from curb rash, Tesla needs to stop using rims that stick out even with the tires. But did you change the setting so the computer can calculate speedometer correctly for the tires? Obviously there is no 18" setting so the 19" choice is the best we have.
For MY P owners, you can upgrade your tires: All seasons - Front: 265/35/21 Rear: 295.35/21. These tires will have a square ends compared to the originals 255/35/21 n 275/35/21 stretched tires exposed rims to the curb if you're terrible in parking, lol. But again it's all preference though....for Tesla current owners have fun driving n for future owners you'll not gonna regret buying it..not going back to drive ice cars again...I owned 3 - M3 n 2 MY LR - gemini n induction wheels it's all compelling to drive...
Do you know if you can fit 265/45 or even 50s? I’m wondering how much space the front can fit for the second number, aspect ratio
Hi, on my MYLR I want to go from 19” to 18” form more confort, what is your suggestion please?
My question is whether an 18" wheel option shows up on the setup screen, where you tell the car what type of tires you have, and whether or not the aero wheel covers are on. If the 18 doesn't show up, I'm guessing that you'd have to set if for the 19? I don't own a Y now, but I do have an order in for one. I would much prefer to run it with 18s, due to the cost savings when replacements inevitably come due.
Exactly that’s something I forgot to mention. No the car only goes to 19s but I haven’t found this feature to be practical or needed. The speedometer is off by 1 mph. Going 70 or 80 is like 69 or 79
@@Adventures_with_nick What do you have the wheels set as on the settings?
@@WontonMonkey as 19s!
Why worry of something in the future? I fyou can afford Tesla, future repairs/replacements are immaterial...
this applies to all cars not just tesla, but some people like the look of a bigger wheels
Some people consider "form over function" as important.
Was 2023 model Y performance suspension change softly?
What option did you choose I know the 19’s but what option there is a few?
But what does it do to your speed
What size tire did you get? I want to order the rims but I get discount for Yokohama 🙏
I want this, but can you “dragy “ test 0-60?? This should increase by 0.4s at best (one video on Yt, but it had to snall wheel diameter)
Yes!! Great idea, I noticed it’s faster I just don’t have a tool to accurately measure it, but I’ll research and get one!
@@Adventures_with_nick yeah please do! It could be up to 0.4s faster 0.60, that is ALOT.. a test out there on YT verifies it, but it has too small wheels (effective lower gear ratio because of it)
@@Adventures_with_nickI put 18” wheels on my M3LR with acceleration boost today, reducing size from 19” in order to get a more comfortable ride and hopefully improve range. I didn’t expect that the most noticeable difference would be how QUICK the acceleration feels compared to before. 3 lbs less unsprung weight at each corner seems; to my seat of the pants feel, to be markedly quicker.
@@NavarroOne I’m glad you did that! So underrated
do you ship to europe ?
I would want to keep the width is that possible? What wheel?
Interesting discussion. I’ve been looking into changing my MYP wheels. I would like to get better protection because I’ll be giving the vehicle to my wife and she doesn’t get the fact that these 21s are easy to curb. I have decided to go with 20s. With 20’s I get a little of everything, comfort, protection and the looks are not sacrificed as much as with a 18s or 19s. Has anyone gone with 20s and noticed a range increase?
Thank you, I am interested in this as well, the difference in weight savings is marginal between 21 and 20, aerodynamics of the wheel may indicate the difference
Those tires look like something from the eighties. Why get a MYP then go to a dumb looking tire?.
What tyres did you consider? There are not much choices in Europe
Michelin Pilot Sport 4 is a great wheel for all season and performance. If you want a softer ride, Michelin makes a really good grand touring tire, all season, Michelin primacy tour
While I understand why 18" but it looks funky on a MYP. I do like some 19" aftermarket wheels for my 2021 MYP which I may buy perhaps during next black friday sale. I will keep my uberturbines until I crack them.
What looks funky are those rubber band wheels. Beefier side walled tires looks very aggressive and this setup doesn't make the wheels look tiny. You know, the 2003 Corvette Z06 used 17" wheels in the front and 18"'s in the rear and it looked aggressive as all get out!
I know all the benefits. Just can't see the small wheels on this size vehicle. Not proportional to me.
What tire size did you run? Thanks
This is 245/50/18 great for range it’s a little small for my preference now, going with 255/55/18 which is the absolute biggest, it’s a small hit on range but love it
What did you mean when you referred to the Long Range things becoming more complicated to switch to the 18” wheels from 20” ?
Because I can’t speak for notable improvement going from 19s to 18s, but you would notice a difference going from 20s to 18s. My advice is do not get 20s…
I’ve been watching a bunch of videos about this wheel set up from Tsportline and you’re the first person to say you got better range…I’m confused.
hey so i just bought my model y performance, is it okay to use the 21 inch tire then buy the wheel and tire set when they need to be replaced?
Hi there! That is a good strategy, nothing wrong with that
@@Adventures_with_nick but is there really a big difference with the 18's, i like the 21 inch wheels how they look and stuff but it seems crazy to spend 450-500 per tire if, and when i need to get all 4 done it will be over 2k just for tires, thats a little too much IMO, how much are the replacement 18's go for?
@@RigaToeKnee I just checked Tire Rack, it’s $256 per tire. That’s for the Michelin pilot sport 4 all season, the same exact tire as stock for MYP, just because it’s a smaller tire it’s much less, you made a great point, these 18” tires are much cheaper
You're the best thanks
Do the front and back wheel need to be different sizes for the performance? Thought I heard it somewhere
Doesn’t have to be. Stock tires are staggered 255 front and 275 rear. This forms a slight cheetah stance. The car is already lowered compared to a model y long range so it will still have better aerodynamics as a model y P vs a long range
@@Adventures_with_nick Thanks Nick! Love the way you explain things. Got 2 questions for ya.
1. I have a MYP coming this month and considered switching to the LR because I was concerned with the low ground clearance. I don't think Tesla discloses the ground clearance of the MYP. Wouldn't reducing the wheel size bring the car down even further making it worse for potholes?
2. Debating if I should get the 19 or 20s from tlinesport with the uberturbine design. I really like the look of the filled out wheel wells on with the 21. Do you recommend a beefier tire to fill the out the space if i were to get say a 19 inch?
@@j0404t so you actually bring up my biggest complaint! The model Y performance seems to be about an inch lower to the ground than MYLR. This configuration that comes with TSportline 245/50/18, does in fact lower the front 0.38” and the back 0.93” overall 1/2 inches lower than stock. So my car sits too low for me at 5.5 inches which is like a sedan. Fuel economy is really great but the ground clearance is quite bad but I wouldn’t say it’s low enough to have disadvantages for potholes.
For my next tire, I will be upgrading to 255/55/18 to fit my existing 18” wheels. The is the biggest tire you can fit (29 inches in diameter) This will make up for the MYP ground clearance and be nearly equal with MYLR.
If your willing to slightly sacrifice on range, TSportline has 19 inch wheels with 275/45/19 and that will get you close to the wheel max.
If you want the biggest possible wheel size, TSportline also has 18” rims with a tire 255/55/18 but it’s currently only for all terrain tires which are not great for range. Your safest bet is to get 275/45/19 but if you are willing to sacrifice ground clearance, 245/50/18 sits 1.1” lower
I let you on that little secret! I’ll be switching my 18’s to a 255/55/18 tire that TSportline does not deliver. I will be going with a grand touring tire…stay tuned!
So just as long as they can support the weight of the vehicle it’s fine?
I’m no expert but why wouldn’t Tesla just offer this option.Seems a bit risky to put wheels and tires made by third parties.I’m all in for more tire than what Tesla offers but maybe a deep dive of tire wear,wheel condition and handling could make people get into this more.
Because the stock wheel and tires are superior for cornering ability and handling. And that’s what is necessary for performance. This setup is going to be clumsy in that regard.
The tire is not third party, it’s the exact same tire as stock, Michelin Pilot 4 all season, the wheel is just metal but yes it supports 1,653 pounds per wheel, 6,612 pounds in total which is more than enough for its weight (4500 pounds) and leaves 2000 pounds for pay load which is 2x more than the car is rated for
They do offer this option, it’s the long range model y. I’ve simply opted for the higher performance motor and reaped the benefits of a long range model y by getting smaller tires. I could have gotten Gemini wheels 19” like what is stock on the LR and get the same range results but I went a step further with 19”a
Which wheel would work better in the snow? 18" or 19" gemini?
The wheel size isn’t going to do anything for the snow, that is all tire. There are however more options for dedicated snow tires that fit 18s rather than 19s
Slightly Inflated tires will do better on snow coz they can dig in providing trac.
if you live in an area like the northeast with cold snowy winters, you want the smaller rims with larger sidewall due to increased potholes in the winter from freezing and thawing roads. Otherwise with 19" you're more prone to rim cracks. Get a good snow tire as that's going to make all the difference.
Damn 4500 pounds. No wonder the model three performance smokes that heavy ass van 🚐
Which exact tires did you get for the model y? Looking to get the 18in ones
Michelin Pilot Sport 4 All Season! Exactly the same as stock tires
245/50/18 although I recommend 255/50/18
@@Adventures_with_nick nice! I bought my model y performance used from a guy and it came with the oem wheels and 18in 245/50 bridgestone winter wheels from tsport. Was debating if i wanted to get A) a different tire for the 21 in rims or B) non-winter tires for 18in wheels. I am renting out the tesla for my turo business and I would HATE to deal with blowouts(i know MY(3)P are known for tire blowouts. So im trying to come up with the best financial solution to save money but also where i mitigate having phone calls saying tire blew out(or at least try to avoid these phone calls!!!
You think i just sell the oem wheels with 20,000 miles on them and proceed to just roll with two sets of 18in tires?
@@EmilioMendiolaJr I would keep your oem wheels for resale value because I heard it’s better to have stock for that. I sold mine and am wondering if I made a mistake…
did you get the PPF ?
I don’t have any ppf right now but I regret it!
What about road sound coming into the cabin, is there sound dampening provided within the tyre?
It is the same as stock tires, Michelin Pilot Sport 4 All season, supposedly it comes with sounds dampening
That's what she said 😆
He would have been better off getting a any set of r19in rims that uses the same offset- I own a set of mustang Mark one rams that are 19×9.5 and 19x10.5 they fit and handle very well and there inly 17lb
Well the offset being what it is for 21” Ubers is 40 front and 48 rear which is why it sticks out and prone to curb rash. Mine on these 18” wheels is 35 offset. No curb rash issues
He would have been better just buying LR instead of P in the first place. Thats why you buy P if you want these wheels.
@@thetom1309 Actually no. Rubber band wheels don't give you a quicker 0-60, they give you better road handling and a higher top end. Most people that buy a Model Y Performance really just want the 0-60 quickness and the only track they might take it to is a drag strip. But they also want to be able to get more than 303 miles of range, so the smaller and lighter 18" wheels make perfect sense. Plus, now they can be rotated in a cross pattern, instead of only side to side like with the 21" UberTurbine wheels due to the front/rear different sizes.
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I have 3 Tesla - M3 RWD n 2 MY LR - w/ Gemini n Induction. Mileage wise not much of a big difference compared to 21" that's why I didn't buy. Going 18" w/ 8.5" width for me it doesn't look attractive bcuz its looks skinny profile but anyways it's preference.
Well a M3 is going to always be more efficient than a model Y
@@Adventures_with_nick I know we use it for errands.
@@TigerInTheWoods M3 has an 18 plus it’s smaller and more aerodynamic. If you have Gemini wheels on the Y you might as well stick with them!
Classic case of drooling over the extra bells and whistles, but couldn’t get past the fact your losing out on the durability and range.
Should of just gotten the long range and saved all the hassle!
0-60 in 3.5 seconds and the same range as a long range. I’m drooling over getting the perks of both models
Anyone tried 17”
I don’t know of any 17 inch rim that fits
Not good Connor meaning turning
If you want squishy, get a Cadillac
Will never get a 18" for my YP....wanne puke when i see it🤮
What’s wrong with 18s? Ever seen an aggressive all terrain tire on 18s? th-cam.com/video/IAkpEkQffpc/w-d-xo.html
I’m cool with everything he said…. But are we really going to lie like the 21” wheels doesn’t look 10 times better.
If you believe any of his points you are shopping the wrong trim. The logic of buying the performance; then spending even more to make it the long range makes no sense.
I don’t think you got the point of the video because you still get all the perks of the performance trim, except now you get more range, also additional protection. I bought the performance over the long range because of the acceleration not the wheels
Somehow I have never liked the looks of the 21" uberturbine wheels - maybe that's just me. The Martian Wheels look way better. And in short - bottom line by going to an 18" wheel you gain comfort, range, and lower the risk to the tire and wheel damage, while sacrificing a bit of cornering. The logic of spending on performance and buying a better wheel package is that you get the speed of the performance, plus performance breaks, upgraded headlights, comfort, and ability to go where you cannot with 21" wheels. For those who want to purely race, corner, and don't really care about the range, nor take it off-road then keep the 21" wheels.