Lap the valves while waiting for the cam! Also, I hope this is the beginning of a relationship between Taylor and Texas Speed. He can build some awesome stuff with their support.
@@Taylordrifts cool I just remembered what Brent's friend All Motor Phong said about pulling every single hp out of a motor and that lapping the valves can get you a lot more than you would think but he was working on a Honda so he only had half the cylinders
Please stay you bro, don't let the youtube fame go to your head. So many channels go from showing their work to just show off their fancy high dollar parts, i enjoy your channel because you show your work and give all of us knowledge that we might not be able to get. Thank you for all your work. i cant wait to hear this engine running.
I scrolled down to the comments to say exactly that. Was quite shocked that he didn't clean the heads with the valves out then lap them before installing the new springs.
honestly him and probably a couple other youtubers out there deserve to get more recognition. its awesome that Texas Speed is working with you and I hope they decide to stick around and help you in the foreseeable future. love the content, really helps pass the time with all this time off. stay safe
You could get a very flat starett stone or something you know is perfectly fine flat and use 1,800-2000 or 2,500 grit wet sandpaper put it on your flat surface and set your head down on it and just push it back and forth with no downward Force only for the heads not the Block . / block use a big new sharping stone and long diagonal crosshatching passes
@@Slammed46 Agreed, I've tried every option to clean the gasket material and you have to use something with abrasion. I prefer a maybe slightly non strait surface to one with gasket material of varying thickness all over it. HG has enough give to cover that, but being MLS it needs a clean surface
Cool upgrade. Texas Speed is realy the go to company, everyone who is working with them like Cleetus McFarland is so stoked about how they work, the quality of their product and customer service. If I would need a company for a LS build I would defenitly contact Texas Speed. Can't wait to see you rip
Love the progress Taylor, this is why I subscribed. The true grassroots engine building and drift dialogue. This builds to sport and creates a teaching opportunity for aspiring drifters. Keep up the amazing work bro
Taylor, I put in a word to TSP about possibly helping you out with parts, etc...they responded by saying they were already in contact with you. Those guys are truly top notch. Thank you for the great content Taylor.
Taylor make sure you check your cam bearings. The one with the split journal can be a problem. Still check your PTV... My comp cam on the same ICL with 4 degrees less duration had .030-.040 PTV on my l92 at about 10 deg ATDC on the intake valve.
I do the same with those cheap totes, wash n oil, then when dirty use em for used parts storage. Good call on the cam n springs! You really gotta build for your APP n budget, sure a big radical cam makes more power but most aren't willing to feed them fresh springs often to keep it happy and not destroy the engine. I always try n tell people don't use a racecar cam on the street, one nights cruise is about the same miles that a trailer queen sees all season. Limited use is why they can be radical and still they will change the springs at least once a year. But somebody's friends uncle knew a guy who herd this dude once did it with no problems, so I'm sure it'll be fine!
So satisfying seeing the engine cleaned up. Looking forward to this duuuuuude! That yellow thing you were using to clean up the gasket surface looks like a 3m wheel I use sometimes. Sick bit of kit
not sure on ls engines with high lift cams but a good idea to check retainer to valve seal clearance at max valve lift to be sure you dont hit seal with bottom of retainer. and if you have heads off and springs and retainers off i would lap all valves for piece of mind
I have an LS3 with the exact same cam, similar valvetrain upgrades, and headers/intake. It made 481hp to the tire. Lots of top end power. Lost a lot of low end torque, but as long as you stay above 3 grand there plenty of power.
Hey Taylor, if your worry is about high RPM valve control, you should probably do solid rollers. The heavier valve spring are just going to stress those stock hyd lifters more
Very nice progress Taylor! And I think Sandy tried to tell you she already had enough of keeping social distance..... Stay healthy, Dutch regards, Nico.
Valve lift usually isn’t the piston to valve clearance problem, duration and cam timing are much bigger factors since the valves are closed when the piston comes up
would love to see you keep vvt on a future build. could be interesting to compare power band differences and overall responsiveness. i dont drift but i would have thought the vvt would give more low end torque/hp, which im sure would be an advantage for drifting even if a small one!
He mentioned in a previous video that noone has really messed with the vvt before and like old mate said, simple is better. In a drag car Yu could use the vvt to really get some numbers but not in drift I don't think
@@Alexx__xD huh I wasn't aware anyway seeming as it hasn't been tryed I'm sure it would be great content to experiment anyway! Even if it doesn't turn out to be worth it I'd sure watch the journey to that conclusion!
Plenty of guys in the drift scene running 2jz's and retaining VVT on them. The beautiful thing about VVT is you can run a mild can to keep good torque down low and use VVT to advance the cam and shift the powerband to higher rpms essentially flattening and broadening the torque curve. VVT has applications in all Motorsports. Tuners have embraced it, domestic V8 guys are still scared of it. That's really all it boils down to.
Texas speed does sell vvt cams and check TH-cam, they have dyno videos. I believe they even offer base maps for hptuners from what they have learned from the project. but as of now, I believe only the oem ecm can run the vvt. I don't believe the holley he's running can control it. plus it seems the bigger the cam, the less it can be used. so it's more suited to a heavier truck or suv that has a smaller cam retarded to help up top, than a big cam advanced to help down low, because you just can't get the adjustment needed to take advantage without piston to valve issues. maybe some day you will see off the shelf pistons with extra clearance for vvt setups but that I haven't seen yet.
I’ve been inspired and have officially decided to go for an LS in my 350Z over JZ. I’m going to follow your build and use the knowledge of Texas speed to help me out because it is going to be a new experience dealing with a V8 but 6.2 liters sounds wonderful. 🤘🏻
Update just incase Taylor sees this! Just ordered my L92 today and now starts the process of acquiring everything I need! Happy with my choice! I’m gonna watch the video through again but what accessory layout did you run again?
I hate to be Debbie Downer but you really should have disassembled the heads and then cleaned everything including the valves. Then lap the valves especially since you had leak down from some of the valves. And then reassembled them.
Good choice on the CHE trunnion kit. I beat the absolute shit out of mine and after 8k miles I took one apart to inspect it, and there's almost no evidence of wear. Also the stage 3 cam from TSP is a much better fit for you, the stage 4 gives up some power around 4500-5600 and gains only a tiny bit from 6300 on up.
I see this was posted 3 years ago... I wonder how long the head gaskets lasted after the "very" wrong surface prep procedure.. You can't use abrasive accessories on the aluminum block.. ruts and groves can be created faster than can be controlled. It may work for a while but, the deck surface is now compromised and will require full disassembly to machine the deck to correct it. Especially if the gasket pops fairly quick. But... you could get lucky.. Also, it would have been a good idea to get a better look at the valve and seat surfaces when you had the heads apart... since there was a couple cylinders that had leak down issues and all..
Buy yourself a brand new 6 or 8 inch sharpening stone. Longer and wider the better. Use the fine side and a light lubricant and use it to put as flat of a surface on blocks as you can without machining.
You have a 3d printer. Just build a sleeve to hold the sockets in place while removing the roller bearings. And with all the down time from lockdown you should show off your 3d printer.
Hey bud you mite want to change those valve covers the crank case vent valve is built into the bottom of the these things and there was a lot of buildups of gummy stuff under the valve seals. The factory valve covers when the valve stops working and because how closely they are to the rocker arms as well as do to gummy buildup they will stop working and let a lot of oil up the vent line and in to the the intake manifold where it will sit when you shut it off your oil covered inside of your intake manifold the warm oil makes its way down to the top of the valves and wait for you to start it next and give you a nice blue smoke surprise lol so a nice set of taller valve covers would do the trick and look sweet . :-)
A real nice budget friendly upgrade for that engine would have been to take the heads down to about 64cc and get the compression up a little more, and have a nice valve job done.
With motor and these parts what was final cost.. I’m really loving your build and think imma have give Texas a call myself .. great vid and info man..!! Def keep that camera rolling.. !
Hey man I love the content, as your building the motor and not talking you should play some copyright free tunes. Set a good vibe it’ll be a nice touch
Its really fuckin amazing to me how many people neglect basic maintenance on their cars, then get pissed when they rod knock it. Literally just change your oil, that is number one priority.
Lap the valves while waiting for the cam! Also, I hope this is the beginning of a relationship between Taylor and Texas Speed. He can build some awesome stuff with their support.
I was going to say to lap the valves too
+1 on lapping the valves while waiting for the other Springs.
To be honest I just didn't feel like doing it. They all were in really good shape. There was just a piece of gunk stuck on the leaky seats.
@@Taylordrifts cool I just remembered what Brent's friend All Motor Phong said about pulling every single hp out of a motor and that lapping the valves can get you a lot more than you would think but he was working on a Honda so he only had half the cylinders
@@larrysutton6530 but remember those motor are 4valve per cylinder heads. I would lap them that gunk can pit the surface causing a very small leak
Texas speed send this man some heads!!!
Thank God. I was sitting here descending slowly into madness and got the notification for this video. Thanks man !
Please stay you bro, don't let the youtube fame go to your head. So many channels go from showing their work to just show off their fancy high dollar parts, i enjoy your channel because you show your work and give all of us knowledge that we might not be able to get. Thank you for all your work. i cant wait to hear this engine running.
Doing the sensible thing and going for a less aggressive cam is why you are so awesome.
Should've taken a few extra minutes to lap the valves. Looking forward to the build tho!
wrexz thats what I just said 🤦🏻♂️
My thoughts exactly especially since there was leak down from the start. 😬
what about checking the installed height of the springs? necessary?
I scrolled down to the comments to say exactly that. Was quite shocked that he didn't clean the heads with the valves out then lap them before installing the new springs.
@@ALWhiteAuthor I agree he should have cleaned the head and laped the valves while he had the ability to and before moving on
Great video, you’re inspiring me to build an L92... can you update us on the cost and finances on engine.
I've been subscribed for so long that I remember Taylor saying he'd never LS swap the Miata lmao. Stoked to see the build continue
He made it sound like the idea was crazy too lol
honestly him and probably a couple other youtubers out there deserve to get more recognition. its awesome that Texas Speed is working with you and I hope they decide to stick around and help you in the foreseeable future. love the content, really helps pass the time with all this time off. stay safe
It's rewarding just watching you get the engine that clean. Stoked to see this thing rip with the engine in it man!
turn on the soft limiter feature in the holley to more gently thrash limiter
It's always great when a spring or snap ring goes flying, listening trying to hear where it landed.....lol...... gonna be a nice mota!
It's going to be great but I'm shocked that he didn't lap the valves being that it is so simple to do just time consuming
The plastic yellow wheel has abrasive in it,it's not only plastic.
You are conpromising the flatness.
i wire wheel all my heads and blocks.... works mint. never had one not seal
This. At the very least take a sharpening stone over all mating surfaces.
You could get a very flat starett stone or something you know is perfectly fine flat and use 1,800-2000 or 2,500 grit wet sandpaper put it on your flat surface and set your head down on it and just push it back and forth with no downward Force only for the heads not the Block . / block use a big new sharping stone and long diagonal crosshatching passes
@@Slammed46 Agreed, I've tried every option to clean the gasket material and you have to use something with abrasion. I prefer a maybe slightly non strait surface to one with gasket material of varying thickness all over it. HG has enough give to cover that, but being MLS it needs a clean surface
Cool upgrade. Texas Speed is realy the go to company, everyone who is working with them like Cleetus McFarland is so stoked about how they work, the quality of their product and customer service. If I would need a company for a LS build I would defenitly contact Texas Speed. Can't wait to see you rip
You had the heads off, do a port n polish make some extra power. Take it to fasterproms in tampa they can easily do them if youre scared of porting
Honestly I would recommend like five other performance tuning shops in Tampa before fasterproms
@@Johnny-tq9no LOL
@@Johnny-tq9no How come?
@@realMaverickBuckley there's a lot of better tuning /performance shops in Tampa and have better reputations for doing good work
Johnny you are definitely right about that one buddy!
Love the progress Taylor, this is why I subscribed. The true grassroots engine building and drift dialogue. This builds to sport and creates a teaching opportunity for aspiring drifters. Keep up the amazing work bro
Taylor, I put in a word to TSP about possibly helping you out with parts, etc...they responded by saying they were already in contact with you. Those guys are truly top notch. Thank you for the great content Taylor.
Love seeing sandy just waltz into shot now and then
I found your snap ring dude it landed in my cereal this morning.
Sandy is my favorite semi-regular on-air guest.
Gotta love Texas Speed!
I’m so hyped with this bigger motor. This is going to be so sick
No McFarland honing this time
haha what was it called the dingleberry 3000 or something like that?
@@Possezz Dingleball hone. Very common name for it in the auto world.
SkylineBNR34 r/woosh
@@oaug how is that a woosh?
By this time next year he will go full boar and order a FULL Texas speed LS engine.
I love these teardown and build up videos.
Great Set Up & Parts Selection, Taylor Ray! They Are In For A Big Surprise At Round 3 Of Klutch Kickers.
Got some biggers tires to try out as well!
Taylor make sure you check your cam bearings. The one with the split journal can be a problem. Still check your PTV... My comp cam on the same ICL with 4 degrees less duration had .030-.040 PTV on my l92 at about 10 deg ATDC on the intake valve.
I do the same with those cheap totes, wash n oil, then when dirty use em for used parts storage. Good call on the cam n springs! You really gotta build for your APP n budget, sure a big radical cam makes more power but most aren't willing to feed them fresh springs often to keep it happy and not destroy the engine. I always try n tell people don't use a racecar cam on the street, one nights cruise is about the same miles that a trailer queen sees all season. Limited use is why they can be radical and still they will change the springs at least once a year. But somebody's friends uncle knew a guy who herd this dude once did it with no problems, so I'm sure it'll be fine!
So satisfying seeing the engine cleaned up. Looking forward to this duuuuuude! That yellow thing you were using to clean up the gasket surface looks like a 3m wheel I use sometimes. Sick bit of kit
What was the yellow head for your right angle?
not sure on ls engines with high lift cams but a good idea to check retainer to valve seal clearance at max valve lift to be sure you dont hit seal with bottom of retainer. and if you have heads off and springs and retainers off i would lap all valves for piece of mind
Thank god you have sandy to supervise you and also, awesome Bucky shirt!!
Taylor i am building this engine for my 69 corvette with american powertrain 5 speed transmission my first ls build. Keep up the good work
cant wait to see the Miata ripping with this beast
I think someone's chop senses are tingling!!
Brake clean a whole rag till it drips and scrub away. Works like a charm and no risk of damaging anything
Hell yea I love Texas Speed 🦅
I have an LS3 with the exact same cam, similar valvetrain upgrades, and headers/intake. It made 481hp to the tire. Lots of top end power. Lost a lot of low end torque, but as long as you stay above 3 grand there plenty of power.
Hey Taylor, if your worry is about high RPM valve control, you should probably do solid rollers. The heavier valve spring are just going to stress those stock hyd lifters more
Those valve reliefs are very helpful
Duuuuude lap the valves. It’s apart. Might as well. Can really only HELP
Good call on the cam
Very nice progress Taylor! And I think Sandy tried to tell you she already had enough of keeping social distance..... Stay healthy, Dutch regards, Nico.
i like to use a very fine knife sharpening stone to clean the deck. keep it well oiled
Awesome video. I love the detail and the explanations. Can't wait for the next one!
As far as putting new trunyons in, I went to harbor freight and bought a cheap arbor press. It worked way better than just a standard vice.
Valve lift usually isn’t the piston to valve clearance problem, duration and cam timing are much bigger factors since the valves are closed when the piston comes up
stoked! thanks for being fairly detailed too! keep at it taylor loving it!
would love to see you keep vvt on a future build. could be interesting to compare power band differences and overall responsiveness. i dont drift but i would have thought the vvt would give more low end torque/hp, which im sure would be an advantage for drifting even if a small one!
When we drift we want to keep everything as simple as possible to keep the engine running healthy. Less things to worry about!
He mentioned in a previous video that noone has really messed with the vvt before and like old mate said, simple is better. In a drag car Yu could use the vvt to really get some numbers but not in drift I don't think
@@Alexx__xD huh I wasn't aware anyway seeming as it hasn't been tryed I'm sure it would be great content to experiment anyway! Even if it doesn't turn out to be worth it I'd sure watch the journey to that conclusion!
Plenty of guys in the drift scene running 2jz's and retaining VVT on them. The beautiful thing about VVT is you can run a mild can to keep good torque down low and use VVT to advance the cam and shift the powerband to higher rpms essentially flattening and broadening the torque curve. VVT has applications in all Motorsports. Tuners have embraced it, domestic V8 guys are still scared of it. That's really all it boils down to.
Texas speed does sell vvt cams and check TH-cam, they have dyno videos. I believe they even offer base maps for hptuners from what they have learned from the project. but as of now, I believe only the oem ecm can run the vvt. I don't believe the holley he's running can control it. plus it seems the bigger the cam, the less it can be used. so it's more suited to a heavier truck or suv that has a smaller cam retarded to help up top, than a big cam advanced to help down low, because you just can't get the adjustment needed to take advantage without piston to valve issues.
maybe some day you will see off the shelf pistons with extra clearance for vvt setups but that I haven't seen yet.
So memorizing watching these videos from you, love a good engine cleaning
I’ve been inspired and have officially decided to go for an LS in my 350Z over JZ. I’m going to follow your build and use the knowledge of Texas speed to help me out because it is going to be a new experience dealing with a V8 but 6.2 liters sounds wonderful. 🤘🏻
Update just incase Taylor sees this!
Just ordered my L92 today and now starts the process of acquiring everything I need! Happy with my choice! I’m gonna watch the video through again but what accessory layout did you run again?
More power!!! Love the Miata
I hate to be Debbie Downer but you really should have disassembled the heads and then cleaned everything including the valves. Then lap the valves especially since you had leak down from some of the valves. And then reassembled them.
Im pretty sure he knows this. Maybe he just didnt film lapping the valves?
A real 3 angle valve job is what he should have done!
Good choice on the CHE trunnion kit. I beat the absolute shit out of mine and after 8k miles I took one apart to inspect it, and there's almost no evidence of wear. Also the stage 3 cam from TSP is a much better fit for you, the stage 4 gives up some power around 4500-5600 and gains only a tiny bit from 6300 on up.
All you need is some Texas speed heads!
I have a VERY similar cam to that cam. Keep in mind your idle will most likely need to be tuned in open loop
Try using oven cleaner on rocker arms next time. Mine came out brand new removed all oil stains
Ive learned a small harbor freight arbor press does great on the trunions. Yes they do include extras. lol
I see this was posted 3 years ago... I wonder how long the head gaskets lasted after the "very" wrong surface prep procedure.. You can't use abrasive accessories on the aluminum block.. ruts and groves can be created faster than can be controlled. It may work for a while but, the deck surface is now compromised and will require full disassembly to machine the deck to correct it. Especially if the gasket pops fairly quick. But... you could get lucky.. Also, it would have been a good idea to get a better look at the valve and seat surfaces when you had the heads apart... since there was a couple cylinders that had leak down issues and all..
Always on point with the best content!
TSP makes some great products! That is going to be a badass motor!
Did the same thing last week with a CHE kit. Our set had an extra too! CHE knows one is bound to go missing haha
Got the same cam in my camaro, used slightly thinner head gaskets too and have 0 issues! I rev it up to 6600 over a 6200 stock rpm
I would love to see some stainless custom headers on this engine!!
Buy yourself a brand new 6 or 8 inch sharpening stone. Longer and wider the better. Use the fine side and a light lubricant and use it to put as flat of a surface on blocks as you can without machining.
Should have got Jeremy @fasterproms to Port your heads and intake manifold
Toasty days in Florida are beautiful days in Florida
Ps why is Sandy so cute
You have a 3d printer. Just build a sleeve to hold the sockets in place while removing the roller bearings. And with all the down time from lockdown you should show off your 3d printer.
Nice Work!
Why wouldn’t you lap the valves just because
A little limiter will take care of that
@@wheeln24-79 😂😂so true
@@wheeln24-79 huh?
@@jaredshaffer3901 limiter you know? Aussie's shake their finger in the air for people to do it.
Matt is probably watching this and cringing at all those new parts 😁
Hey bud you mite want to change those valve covers the crank case vent valve is built into the bottom of the these things and there was a lot of buildups of gummy stuff under the valve seals. The factory valve covers when the valve stops working and because how closely they are to the rocker arms as well as do to gummy buildup they will stop working and let a lot of oil up the vent line and in to the the intake manifold where it will sit when you shut it off your oil covered inside of your intake manifold the warm oil makes its way down to the top of the valves and wait for you to start it next and give you a nice blue smoke surprise lol so a nice set of taller valve covers would do the trick and look sweet . :-)
I would run a oil cleaner in that engine once it's running would suck if a bearing hole is clogged or barely getting oil. Then replace the oil/filter.
A real nice budget friendly upgrade for that engine would have been to take the heads down to about 64cc and get the compression up a little more, and have a nice valve job done.
I always use a razor blade to get head gasket material off and then after I used a scotch brite pad for dishes and lightly rubbed it
My friend did a CHE trunion kit a couple weeks ago and it does come with an extra snap ring lol
Texas Speed!!! Hook this man up with an engine for the pro car he should be building!
A brass wire wheel is really good for this cuz its soft metal so you wont damage your block
"I know I'm not going to keep it off limiter" ends the video with 30 seconds of limiter for proof 🤣
Taylor is one of those guys where I'd just like to sit down and have a drink and a conversation with
will the motor run better cleaning the pistons like that?
I look forward to the day that Taylor is able to say he is sponsored by Texas Speed. I know its gonna happen.
I'm so keen bro. Love your work
What type of brush you use to clean the pistons and the headgasket plan?🤔
You should definitely Replace the Big end and Rod bearings, put in a fresh set of std size Acl Race bearings they are cheap and worth the investment
Texas Speed makes Florida rip!
i would check your rings on that cylender that was problematic and it almost seems like there is a minor head gasket problem around that cylender
It would be awesome to see shirts with Sandy wearing a welding mask!
The yellow rubber finger wheel has abrasive qualities and will remove block deck material. Best to check it with a real flat edge and a feeler guage
It's fine...
That's just free compression you're buffing off! 😄
With motor and these parts what was final cost.. I’m really loving your build and think imma have give Texas a call myself .. great vid and info man..!! Def keep that camera rolling.. !
Where is the best place to get a custom wiring harness??
I pray for this engine bottom end . Rod bearings and such.
Love it man ! Best Yt channel.
Got a nice clean 4.8 one time and middle cam bearing fell out. Guy said it was a 120k motor lol
Hey man I love the content, as your building the motor and not talking you should play some copyright free tunes. Set a good vibe it’ll be a nice touch
Its really fuckin amazing to me how many people neglect basic maintenance on their cars, then get pissed when they rod knock it. Literally just change your oil, that is number one priority.
Are you doing a dry sup bottom end
9:00 yea I think so
Yea he's going dry sump
great video man
What adapter brush is that to clean the aluminum block?
The ls Miata is going to be so bad arse