I’ve worked on some cup stuff in the past and my advice to you would be: this is a race engine so treat it as such. Make sure you have a heater for the oil tank. Make sure you build plenty of oil temp and circulate it through the engine before you start it. Use a drill and not the starter. When you do the build, leave yourself room to get a right angle drill on the dry sump pump, you’ll thank yourself later Stock up on valve springs. Just because these engines are designed for high rpm, doesn’t mean they love being on the limiter. Check valve lash multiple times throughout the event, not just before. If the lash starts moving, you have a problem. Figure out the issue before running the engine again. It probably still has a flat tappet cam in it. A switch to a roller cam will be in your future since you won’t find any flat tappet parts. When you make the change you can take advantage of modern lobe profiles that are more gentle and will be a little more stable for your application.
Finally some on in the know, we were there when Pro Stock Bikes were actually called that, before that you were ET-1 and got to sit in staging in your leathers and watch 15 sec door slammers while you melt. How much do ya like the new ext. oil filer with the clear top and screen? When talking valve springs, they talked to Warren Johnson after he retired, now this is pre 10.500 chip rule, said he couldn't afford a 5 digit spring every 2 or 3 runs. hi dollar springs now are run under a microscope before and after winding, any nick or whatever they get tossed, ya know they were headed to older F-1 territory. Pro Line and the boys have that in the rule book, dry-sump, lotta oil to get up to temp for a 6 sec 1/4 or a 3 lap drift. So many great parts these days.
We had drift guy working out of our engine shop in Ga back 15yrs ago....that we hooked up with Ernie Elliott and later Joey Arrington on a bunch of used Dodge R7 cup engines and he was swapping them in 350z's and other chassis with no problem. He was even converting them to port EFI... So I'm surprised you haven't seen this done before. He was a well known guy out in the ATL area.... built a ton of those cars when he was renting space. Those Dodge engines were super cheap back in the day because nobody could really repurpose them for lower tier racing but they were killing it in his drift cars. They are not the most powerful but they have a good driveable TQ curve and very reliable... Ernie sold EEI to some other people but Joey is still in business in Concord NC and is a great resource for these engines. He did most of the initial engine development work for Dodge when they decided to get back in NASCAR.
@@NoneyurbusinessIn the context of what these engines were... No. They were always down on power to era equal GM and Ford of the day .. honestly 830 out of a P7 is the baddest one (or loosest Dyno) I have ever seen... Not saying after 20+yrs someone hasn't possibly developed one to that power but it's highly unlikely someone would do that with an outdated platform... In the early 2000s unrestricted they were typically 750-780hp engines. You gotta remember they were practically giving these things away in the early 2010s.... and that's because the R6P8 platform that debuted in 2012 were much better power wise and honest 830-850hp engines. Now in the context of a drift missile... It's gonna be great. Like I said the P7 has a great power curve and they drive excellent compared to the early SB2 and D3 platforms. Plus that's plenty of power in 2300lbs. The engine he has appears to be one of the later P7s as it has the steel T&D rockers with what appears to be either 1 the stand mounted adjustment eccentric or 2 non adjustable rockers (lash was done with select thickness lash caps). It's one of the 2 most reliable designs for a P7 either way. It is still probably a flat tappet cam thou... That's something to watch out for as they have billet cams and tool steel lifters that are unobtainable today except surplus from one of the teams or one of the second hand parts places.
@twincam20mr Yes sir. Jerry's a really good fabricator and was an all around nice guy when he rented space. Pretty quiet guy that just put in the work... all the time. I still have a valve cover on the engine in my C4.... he welded a fill cap bung on it for me when I was having trouble with the HF points on my machine. He was always willing to do little work like that for Robbie the shop owner or one of us. He out grew the space we had in like 2014ish I think. I hope he's doing well these days.
I hope you go as wild as you possibly can with the headers when the time comes. 8 into 2 into 1 as early as possible, equal length, _stepped_ ... it's going to sound insane enough no matter what you do, but you have the opportunity to make it sound unlike anything else. that's the part I'm most excited about on the engine side of things for this build
@@BrandonCorbett420 I was thinking that. But there wouldn’t be a spot to go to 1 until past the dogbox. I think it works on the vette since the transmissions in the back so you can merge to 1 just past the bellhousing. I would have to go 8-4-2-1. Idk how that would sound comparatively.
Chequered Tuning from Australia encountered an issue with their R5P7 engine. The keyway lifter developed play and eventually turned in the lifter bore. Trent from Chequered Tuning may be a good resource for you for building a drift spec R5P7.
I'm beyond excited to see the NASCAR Miata Build Series!! This car is going to be back to being the best car on the channel for SURE! The fact that you can get that kind of power from an NA motor paired up with an NA Miata just blows my mind. Thank you for doing this Taylor, this means so much to a lot of us.
Lauri Heinonen won the dm.gp championship with such an engine in s13 nissan. Ok although there was also supercharger, composite custom intake made by JTK composites, injectors etc.
I'm actually geeked to see this. I've always wanted to hear the Dodge NASCAR engines be placed in drift cars because they're some of the nastiest sounding engines ever made, imo.
The MW is most likely Michael Waltrip racing. They ran the Dodge in both the Busch series and in Cup. Make sure you check the bearing clearances etc. A lot of those engines needed to be pre-heated before starting.
Yeah I Don't Think Much Thought Went Into This Unfortunately. Like The Maintenance, How Much Runtime Between Rebuilds, Expensive And Rare/Old Outdated Parts.
@@xiukn8 on camera twice i think but he doesn't really record drift seasons much anymore because the views are bad on them(talked about it on Cooper's podcast). but he also has the problem that none of the local events will let him run the vette because it's an FD level build. getting the miata going again will allow him to run that stuff again. also there's possible rumors that klutch kickers might be trying to make a come back.
@@xiukn8 Ha That Went Straight Over Your Head There Huh Pal. The Point👉Being This Is An Old Nascar Motor As With Most Real Race Engines They Have To Be Torn Down And Rebuit On The Regular ie. Maintenance. The Vette Has A 427ci Turbo Ls Motor. "Can You Remind Us How" 🤔 Mechanically Inclined You AREN'T ? Sry Fella But Your Gotcha Moment Makes No Sense. Ohh And Thank You @sirmonkey1985 For Real Facts.
@@just_j6514 these engines where designed and built to run for 500 to 600 mile at wide open throttle in a 3500lbs stock car under a lot of load. I’m sure it will be fine in a less than 2800lbs Miata with small tire and basically no load.
Food for thought, when my step father built bush north cars, they would preheat the oil before they ran it. Not sure it was necessary. Might have been.
I don’t know why you don’t have a million subscribers? Every video is what a gear head could ask for!! You are the reason I am slowly building up my Milwaukee collection of tools, impact, ratchet & a few smaller tools!! You definitely have got to help Milwaukee sells some tools👍 Every video you posts is worth watching over & over😁
I can’t decide which build I’m more excited to watch. I think both the Miata and the RX7 are going to be rad and I can’t wait to hang out with Taylor while he builds them. Keep up the good work dude! This is far and away the best channel on TH-cam.
The Miata just became my favorite car. That thing is going to absolutely SCREAM!!! I watched a 3300LB Dart with an R5P7 run high 9 second quarter miles with ease and the sounds coming from that thing were just incredible. This is going to be a FUN build, for sure!
cannot believe i've been watching you for eight years and now i'm almost 25 and will hopefully be beginning my own first ever project car in 2025. your content has been endlessly phenomenal and thank you for all the inspiration. cannot wait to see this thing rip!
9000RPM Screamer! Now that is going to be one hell of a drifter! I am jealous....you are going to get all the fabrication challenges you love, rewire, replumb, an entire new build to do your way taking your time and doing it right. Damn, I am jealous! I'll be watching this build; I can't wait to see it scream around some of those ritzy new builds while you kick ass in your Miata. Lets GO!!
Taylor, I know you've been thru a lot recently but the weight gain was so noticeable in this video. Don't neglect your health. I love your videos and want you to be healthy for a long time 🙏
I’ll be the first to admit I was a NASCAR engine skeptic and didn’t see the appeal. You did a great job explaining your reasoning and the thought process and now I’m excited to see the process and final results!
It's great to see an extra 500,000 or so subscribers since the last time I dropped by...great job man! What a hell of a change from when the shop was initially built.
I race 410 sprint cars, our motors are obviously 410 cubic inches. We un 8 ITB’s fueled with alcohol. All 4 of our motors make between 950 n 980 at the crank. Our heads n valve train is wild too lol. The fact that its direct drive no transmission straight to the rear with a 29” ish drive shaft on dirt is crazy. Love what you do brotha. Appreciate ya
Holley will have a carburetor to fit your exact needs. The Brawler is an absolute unit. Ran them on derby cars, dirt track cars and never had a problem with fuel slosh or starvation. Carb technology has come along way just as fuel injection. Stick with a carb set up, you’ll love it! Stoked for this!
Great video! It’s funny after you mentioned it, I didn’t even realize how many years I’ve been following you and I clearly remember thinking this dude lives the life WAY BEFORE the new house and big shop. Keep killing it and happy holidays ❤
I honestly thought you were going to get a Chev SB2 but being a Dodge guy at heart you have made my day.I will be following this build close as it goes.Thank you ,Paul
So excited for this. I joined when you got the miata initially and bought and turboed my own miata because of it. This will finally give me the inspiration to tear my car apart and fix it.
Agreed. Rotaries are sick but I love the justaposition of this giant, roaring motor in a tiny little miat haha the rotary wouldn't be special in the same way imo
I was so worried about the Miata… I thought you were about to make a horrible mistake tearing it apart… and then you bought a nascar engine for it and totally redeemed yourself 👏👏👏
I'm sure you're aware, but putting a slightly smaller cam in it that revs to 8200-8400 vs 9000 rpm will radically lengthen the life expectancy of all the valvetrain parts. And you're not gonna lose much performance.
I love it, the attitude of it changed, they do make cam trigger (cam position sensor) kits for those. Def should go coil on plug and get the most out of it. we need more of this. I have been watching since the 4 cyl turbo days of this car and am here for this.
I would try to make a cam sync work depending on what engine management you go with so you don't have to mess with the firewall. I can't wait to hear that thing run and rip on the track!
This is gonna be so sick, looking forward to the Miata gripping its lil heart out again! One idea for the ignition - you could get some beefy wasted spark coils (they exist, Bosch Motorsport make some) and put them on the firewall, near where the dizzy should be. Wasted spark would mean you don't need a cam trigger, only crank trigger, which is way easier. Combine that with injection at the throttle body and it'll be a ripper, without needing to modify that beautiful intake. Also you'd have plug wires in basically the right spot which will look cool! Way cooler than just slapping LS coils on it Edit: eg the IGN-4 that diyautotune sell has about 15% more spark energy than an IGN-1A. And the "wasted" bit is not much - the second spark plug takes up way less of the spark energy, as it's not firing under when there's compression in the cylinder. Essay over!
There's gotta be a standalone EFI platform that has a cam sync to eliminate the distributor. Someone, somewhere, has put a Mopar NASCAR motor on EFI in a car it shouldn't be in. Fuel Tech, Holley, Haltech, Motec, somebody, somewhere makes the stuff to make it work. Excited to see where the build takes you. Should be a certified screaming ripper.
My buddy has a 66 mustang with a ford nascar engine in it. This is exactly how his is setup. Uses Motec and a gutted distributor for a cam signal with some ign1a coils
Maybe he could try and contact Lauri Heinonen from Finland , he drives a Nissan with a supercharged nascar engine in Driftmasters , and I’m pretty certain he’s on standalone ECU
Been watching since day 1, you have been killing it since then and its so amazing to see everything you do and show us all its possible from any beginning. Cant wait to see what you build for headers on this one!!!!
I’m a big mopar guy, this makes me real happy, thanks. I’d be definitely going carb style throttle body and crank trigger. Can’t wait to heat this screaming at 9k!!!
Taylor keep the carb on the engine. First it is way easier to set up. Also you can keep the stock mechanical fuel pump wich will be more reliable and simple than an electric pump. It will also be less wiring. I’m stoked to see this engine in the car and am curious to see the end vison
@ It would just be a matter of converting the distributor base to function as a cam sensor and attaching a trigger wheel to the crank. It is fairly common practice when converting any older distributor based system to coil on plug.
Just remember, this is not an ls, this a real racing engine. An ls is a punk in comparison. Not to throw shade at the ls engine, this is a different thing altogether. This is a handbuilt true racing piece, no holds barred, no expense considered engine. Please treat it as such. It will be fun, just be prepared to rebuild everything before racing the Miata. This engine will rip it apart in a short period of time.
I also think you should stay carbureted. I feel like there’s a reason all of those race motors (dirt track included) are carbureted. I have confidence you could learn to properly tune a carb. You’re really good at stepping out of your comfort zone and learning new things
The cars stay carbed because some people can't or are unwilling to learn wiring and efi, plus for most it's cheaper to just slap in different fuel jets or retune the carb to do what they need. Buuut in my experience it's just old guys that are too stubborn to accept efi is better 🤷♂️
Is it the short track version or the speedway engine. Look at the rotating assembly, if it is beefy. It is a speedway engine, it is less desirable for your application. Please check carefully before you put it in the Miata.
SO STOKED for this one!!! I love this idea! Ole girls gonna be a WEAPON next season in small tire! Also for what it’s worth, I think fuel injection would be worth the headache up front to be easy later. Plenty of time to figure it out! Keep it up TRay appreciate you!
I’m hoping you keep the carb and the distributor.my wife’s uncle helped develop those cylinder heads for Joey Arrington back in the day and the tech that was used for that is mind blowing even back then.His stories from those days are super interesting.
Remember that thing is used to living at those high revs at much higher vehicle speeds than you'll reach while drifting, and you may be best off considering the cooling as a package; you're gonna need lots of fans to force air through the radiator, maybe ducted scoops & such for oil & trans cooling and maybe even some fans for those as well
Cup engines are designed to run _extremely_ hot, with cooling inlets taped off as much as they could to reduce drag. So long as he keeps flow up and doesn't literally boil the fluids out of it, he'll be fine.
Always loved the old ls build series, but the Nascar engine rebuild is by far going to be the crazy and wildest version of this car. Looking forward to seeing everything you do with this project
Came for the engine, stayed for the jibber jabber 👌🏻
😂😂😂
Always going down the rabbit hole 🤘💯
"I came for the cars, stayed for the jibber jabber" NEEDS to be a shirt!
@ 100%
Hell. Yyyyyyeeeeeehhhhhaaaaaaa
I’ve worked on some cup stuff in the past and my advice to you would be: this is a race engine so treat it as such. Make sure you have a heater for the oil tank. Make sure you build plenty of oil temp and circulate it through the engine before you start it. Use a drill and not the starter. When you do the build, leave yourself room to get a right angle drill on the dry sump pump, you’ll thank yourself later
Stock up on valve springs. Just because these engines are designed for high rpm, doesn’t mean they love being on the limiter. Check valve lash multiple times throughout the event, not just before. If the lash starts moving, you have a problem. Figure out the issue before running the engine again. It probably still has a flat tappet cam in it. A switch to a roller cam will be in your future since you won’t find any flat tappet parts. When you make the change you can take advantage of modern lobe profiles that are more gentle and will be a little more stable for your application.
Finally some on in the know, we were there when Pro Stock Bikes were actually called that, before that you were ET-1 and got to sit in staging in your leathers and watch 15 sec door slammers while you melt. How much do ya like the new ext. oil filer with the clear top and screen? When talking valve springs, they talked to Warren Johnson after he retired, now this is pre 10.500 chip rule, said he couldn't afford a 5 digit spring every 2 or 3 runs. hi dollar springs now are run under a microscope before and after winding, any nick or whatever they get tossed, ya know they were headed to older F-1 territory. Pro Line and the boys have that in the rule book, dry-sump, lotta oil to get up to temp for a 6 sec 1/4 or a 3 lap drift. So many great parts these days.
I would swap to a smaller more valve spring friendly grind and be able to enjoy lower power and reliability
These things run hundreds of laps at high RPM. They're fine. Quit being a drama queen.
@ hundreds of laps “at high rpm” yes, they were not built for on/off throttle hundreds of times in an event….big difference iykyk
@ You could just say that you’ve literally never watched a NASCAR race. Or, you could just type, “I’m stupid.” Either one would suffice.
21:30 “keeping this car forever” best words I’ve ever heard come out of your mouth! (Other than “let’s put a nascar motor in the Miata”)
Please put a set of boom tubes on there 🤞
He can’t not
Boom tubes with nascar style Tri-Y headers would be WILD🔥
X pipes + boom tubes is the surefire nascar sound recipe
Some equal length headers.
Wait guys hear me out.
8-1 into a boom tube. It’s a TH-cam build send it to the gods for clout can make adjustments later
still can't believe how genuine this guy is. Been watching for 5+ years and will continue to watch. Thanks Taylor!!!
@@justusbeckman4311 thanks man! Thanks for the years of support! It means the world to me. Love having you along for the ride! 🙌🏻
Hasn't change a single over the years. Most of them get money and try to act too cool but fortunately Taylor didn't do that.
We had drift guy working out of our engine shop in Ga back 15yrs ago....that we hooked up with Ernie Elliott and later Joey Arrington on a bunch of used Dodge R7 cup engines and he was swapping them in 350z's and other chassis with no problem. He was even converting them to port EFI... So I'm surprised you haven't seen this done before. He was a well known guy out in the ATL area.... built a ton of those cars when he was renting space. Those Dodge engines were super cheap back in the day because nobody could really repurpose them for lower tier racing but they were killing it in his drift cars. They are not the most powerful but they have a good driveable TQ curve and very reliable... Ernie sold EEI to some other people but Joey is still in business in Concord NC and is a great resource for these engines. He did most of the initial engine development work for Dodge when they decided to get back in NASCAR.
Sounds like you’re talking about about Jerry ( jerry yang racing )
Yup DAIGO Saito runs a Mopar in his Altezza drift weapon FD Japan Series
You don’t think 830 N/A is a lot of power?
@@NoneyurbusinessIn the context of what these engines were... No. They were always down on power to era equal GM and Ford of the day .. honestly 830 out of a P7 is the baddest one (or loosest Dyno) I have ever seen... Not saying after 20+yrs someone hasn't possibly developed one to that power but it's highly unlikely someone would do that with an outdated platform... In the early 2000s unrestricted they were typically 750-780hp engines. You gotta remember they were practically giving these things away in the early 2010s.... and that's because the R6P8 platform that debuted in 2012 were much better power wise and honest 830-850hp engines. Now in the context of a drift missile... It's gonna be great. Like I said the P7 has a great power curve and they drive excellent compared to the early SB2 and D3 platforms. Plus that's plenty of power in 2300lbs. The engine he has appears to be one of the later P7s as it has the steel T&D rockers with what appears to be either 1 the stand mounted adjustment eccentric or 2 non adjustable rockers (lash was done with select thickness lash caps). It's one of the 2 most reliable designs for a P7 either way. It is still probably a flat tappet cam thou... That's something to watch out for as they have billet cams and tool steel lifters that are unobtainable today except surplus from one of the teams or one of the second hand parts places.
@twincam20mr Yes sir. Jerry's a really good fabricator and was an all around nice guy when he rented space. Pretty quiet guy that just put in the work... all the time. I still have a valve cover on the engine in my C4.... he welded a fill cap bung on it for me when I was having trouble with the HF points on my machine. He was always willing to do little work like that for Robbie the shop owner or one of us. He out grew the space we had in like 2014ish I think. I hope he's doing well these days.
I hope you go as wild as you possibly can with the headers when the time comes. 8 into 2 into 1 as early as possible, equal length, _stepped_ ... it's going to sound insane enough no matter what you do, but you have the opportunity to make it sound unlike anything else. that's the part I'm most excited about on the engine side of things for this build
You talking about the 8-4-1 headers that celeretec has for the c6? That would sound insane
no room
@@StanleyKubick1 I would see if I could hook up with the crew that built it, if that don't work ck for old under hood pix. Why start over!
8 into 1 with boom tube. I bet that would sound insane.
@@BrandonCorbett420 I was thinking that. But there wouldn’t be a spot to go to 1 until past the dogbox. I think it works on the vette since the transmissions in the back so you can merge to 1 just past the bellhousing. I would have to go 8-4-2-1. Idk how that would sound comparatively.
Chequered Tuning from Australia encountered an issue with their R5P7 engine. The keyway lifter developed play and eventually turned in the lifter bore. Trent from Chequered Tuning may be a good resource for you for building a drift spec R5P7.
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I'm beyond excited to see the NASCAR Miata Build Series!! This car is going to be back to being the best car on the channel for SURE! The fact that you can get that kind of power from an NA motor paired up with an NA Miata just blows my mind. Thank you for doing this Taylor, this means so much to a lot of us.
Lauri Heinonen won the dm.gp championship with such an engine in s13 nissan. Ok although there was also supercharger, composite custom intake made by JTK composites, injectors etc.
You sure thats enough power for a miata? 😂 So sick, cant wait for the miata's villain arc
Can’t even call her the LS Miata. She needs a new code name
@@Mldavis1214 Nascar miata definitely has a ring!
@@ectobluntus Niata.
Hemiata is about to take over.
I’m so here for it. MX5 going back to breaking hearts
I'm actually geeked to see this. I've always wanted to hear the Dodge NASCAR engines be placed in drift cars because they're some of the nastiest sounding engines ever made, imo.
I'm more excited for this build than I am the rx7 and I'm a dragracer 🤣 it's gonna sound wicked
EFI and coils for the ignition side. Boom tubes for the exhaust.
The MW is most likely Michael Waltrip racing. They ran the Dodge in both the Busch series and in Cup. Make sure you check the bearing clearances etc. A lot of those engines needed to be pre-heated before starting.
Yeah I Don't Think Much Thought Went Into This Unfortunately. Like The Maintenance, How Much Runtime Between Rebuilds, Expensive And Rare/Old Outdated Parts.
@@just_j6514can you remind us how many times his vette ran this season?
@@xiukn8 on camera twice i think but he doesn't really record drift seasons much anymore because the views are bad on them(talked about it on Cooper's podcast). but he also has the problem that none of the local events will let him run the vette because it's an FD level build. getting the miata going again will allow him to run that stuff again. also there's possible rumors that klutch kickers might be trying to make a come back.
@@xiukn8 Ha That Went Straight Over Your Head There Huh Pal. The Point👉Being This Is An Old Nascar Motor As With Most Real Race Engines They Have To Be Torn Down And Rebuit On The Regular ie. Maintenance. The Vette Has A 427ci Turbo Ls Motor. "Can You Remind Us How" 🤔 Mechanically Inclined You AREN'T ? Sry Fella But Your Gotcha Moment Makes No Sense. Ohh And Thank You @sirmonkey1985 For Real Facts.
@@just_j6514 these engines where designed and built to run for 500 to 600 mile at wide open throttle in a 3500lbs stock car under a lot of load. I’m sure it will be fine in a less than 2800lbs Miata with small tire and basically no load.
Food for thought, when my step father built bush north cars, they would preheat the oil before they ran it. Not sure it was necessary. Might have been.
might have been
might've/might have
They did that because the oil cooling systems are so good, if you didn’t heat the oil first, it would take forever for the oil to reach temp
might of Ben
Miter bin.
I don’t know why you don’t have a million subscribers? Every video is what a gear head could ask for!! You are the reason I am slowly building up my Milwaukee collection of tools, impact, ratchet & a few smaller tools!! You definitely have got to help Milwaukee sells some tools👍 Every video you posts is worth watching over & over😁
It has to get the sidepipes. Those iconic nascar side pipes on the miata 😂😂😂
The boomtubes!
i seen nascar motor in the title and clicked right away, i’m so excited for the miata. the car deserves this engine.
taylor seems like such a good dude man, really like just sitting in the shop with a buddy youve known for years
The Miata is what got me hooked on your channel!! I’m beyond stoked that its headed for a full build and back to comp drifting!
I would go electronic dizzy with remote coils. Don't wanna end up with 4th Gen Camaro problems under the wipers. But so stoked just to hear this🎉
My thoughts exactly!
ls miata went from my favorite build on youtube to my favorite build anywhere
I can’t decide which build I’m more excited to watch. I think both the Miata and the RX7 are going to be rad and I can’t wait to hang out with Taylor while he builds them. Keep up the good work dude! This is far and away the best channel on TH-cam.
I clicked on that notification right away when I saw the title
I hope to see a full build series like the Corvette. Replace all the body panels, full paint, body kit etc. It deserves it.
Who else had to watch the outro clip multiple times? So smooth with it!
thank you Taylor!!!!! you give us (the viewers) all that we could ask for!!! THANK YOU!
The Miata just became my favorite car. That thing is going to absolutely SCREAM!!! I watched a 3300LB Dart with an R5P7 run high 9 second quarter miles with ease and the sounds coming from that thing were just incredible. This is going to be a FUN build, for sure!
most taylor ray thing ever
cannot believe i've been watching you for eight years and now i'm almost 25 and will hopefully be beginning my own first ever project car in 2025. your content has been endlessly phenomenal and thank you for all the inspiration. cannot wait to see this thing rip!
What's your project car?
9000RPM Screamer! Now that is going to be one hell of a drifter! I am jealous....you are going to get all the fabrication challenges you love, rewire, replumb, an entire new build to do your way taking your time and doing it right. Damn, I am jealous! I'll be watching this build; I can't wait to see it scream around some of those ritzy new builds while you kick ass in your Miata. Lets GO!!
Taylor, I know you've been thru a lot recently but the weight gain was so noticeable in this video. Don't neglect your health. I love your videos and want you to be healthy for a long time 🙏
I started watching back in the day for the Miata content. I am pumped to see how rowdy this thing is with that motor.
I’ll be the first to admit I was a NASCAR engine skeptic and didn’t see the appeal. You did a great job explaining your reasoning and the thought process and now I’m excited to see the process and final results!
you've been talking about this for a super long time! very happy for you taylor!
Absolutely can’t wait for that NASCAR sound. And if at all possible boom tubes would be awesome. That engine in the Miata is perfect. Congrats Taylor
That car is gonna be so freaking RAD! Insane dude! Can’t wait
It's great to see an extra 500,000 or so subscribers since the last time I dropped by...great job man! What a hell of a change from when the shop was initially built.
Would be dope if it sounds just like Lauri Heinonen's car!!
I race 410 sprint cars, our motors are obviously 410 cubic inches. We un 8 ITB’s fueled with alcohol. All 4 of our motors make between 950 n 980 at the crank. Our heads n valve train is wild too lol. The fact that its direct drive no transmission straight to the rear with a 29” ish drive shaft on dirt is crazy. Love what you do brotha. Appreciate ya
U should ask jtk composite for intake made for that engine. Same as lauri heinonen is having in his driftmasters car
Holley will have a carburetor to fit your exact needs. The Brawler is an absolute unit. Ran them on derby cars, dirt track cars and never had a problem with fuel slosh or starvation. Carb technology has come along way just as fuel injection. Stick with a carb set up, you’ll love it! Stoked for this!
YEEESSSSS!!!!!! This is the build I was waiting for. I’m so pumped for this
Great video! It’s funny after you mentioned it, I didn’t even realize how many years I’ve been following you and I clearly remember thinking this dude lives the life WAY BEFORE the new house and big shop. Keep killing it and happy holidays ❤
This fits way better than my bmw m62 v8 swap in my Miata, keep up the good work it’s gunna be nasty when it’s done 😎
I honestly thought you were going to get a Chev SB2 but being a Dodge guy at heart you have made my day.I will be following this build close as it goes.Thank you ,Paul
Can’t wait for the custom “Mazda” valve covers!
I dont think he'll change them
AINT NO WAY BUB
very excited for this. Just like when I watched the video of the last motor being built for the Miata in Ben’s shop
Hope it sounds almost as good as Lauri Heinonen's Nascar v8 from Drift Masters :D
So excited for this. I joined when you got the miata initially and bought and turboed my own miata because of it. This will finally give me the inspiration to tear my car apart and fix it.
This is going to be EPIC. Rotary would've been cool too, but that car deserves a V8 under the hood
Agreed. Rotaries are sick but I love the justaposition of this giant, roaring motor in a tiny little miat haha the rotary wouldn't be special in the same way imo
Junk rotary lol.
I was so worried about the Miata… I thought you were about to make a horrible mistake tearing it apart… and then you bought a nascar engine for it and totally redeemed yourself 👏👏👏
The dog box will really come in clutch 💯🏁🇺🇲
I'm sure you're aware, but putting a slightly smaller cam in it that revs to 8200-8400 vs 9000 rpm will radically lengthen the life expectancy of all the valvetrain parts. And you're not gonna lose much performance.
I love it, the attitude of it changed, they do make cam trigger (cam position sensor) kits for those. Def should go coil on plug and get the most out of it. we need more of this. I have been watching since the 4 cyl turbo days of this car and am here for this.
taylor Maybe talk to Lauri Heinonen the dmec driver he has a nascar v8 180sx that was carb and now efi might have so info for you
I would try to make a cam sync work depending on what engine management you go with so you don't have to mess with the firewall. I can't wait to hear that thing run and rip on the track!
This is going to be SO SICK!
This is gonna be so sick, looking forward to the Miata gripping its lil heart out again!
One idea for the ignition - you could get some beefy wasted spark coils (they exist, Bosch Motorsport make some) and put them on the firewall, near where the dizzy should be. Wasted spark would mean you don't need a cam trigger, only crank trigger, which is way easier. Combine that with injection at the throttle body and it'll be a ripper, without needing to modify that beautiful intake.
Also you'd have plug wires in basically the right spot which will look cool! Way cooler than just slapping LS coils on it
Edit: eg the IGN-4 that diyautotune sell has about 15% more spark energy than an IGN-1A. And the "wasted" bit is not much - the second spark plug takes up way less of the spark energy, as it's not firing under when there's compression in the cylinder.
Essay over!
There's gotta be a standalone EFI platform that has a cam sync to eliminate the distributor. Someone, somewhere, has put a Mopar NASCAR motor on EFI in a car it shouldn't be in.
Fuel Tech, Holley, Haltech, Motec, somebody, somewhere makes the stuff to make it work.
Excited to see where the build takes you. Should be a certified screaming ripper.
This.
My buddy has a 66 mustang with a ford nascar engine in it. This is exactly how his is setup. Uses Motec and a gutted distributor for a cam signal with some ign1a coils
Maybe he could try and contact Lauri Heinonen from Finland , he drives a Nissan with a supercharged nascar engine in Driftmasters , and I’m pretty certain he’s on standalone ECU
@@rickyekenlow Yes he runs it on a Maxxecu race. He has port injection and smart coils.
Been watching since day 1, you have been killing it since then and its so amazing to see everything you do and show us all its possible from any beginning. Cant wait to see what you build for headers on this one!!!!
There should be a Cleetus meme inserted here 😂
I’m a big mopar guy, this makes me real happy, thanks. I’d be definitely going carb style throttle body and crank trigger. Can’t wait to heat this screaming at 9k!!!
Taylor keep the carb on the engine. First it is way easier to set up. Also you can keep the stock mechanical fuel pump wich will be more reliable and simple than an electric pump. It will also be less wiring. I’m stoked to see this engine in the car and am curious to see the end vison
And it may need nitrous
And it may need nitrous
They make more top end HP with the carb.
Carbs are hard to get working right in a drift car because of all of the whipping back and forth.
@@gibhamracing37that’s what Tony Angelo was saying.
8 to 1 headers would be sick mounted infront of the engine with a rear radiator set up would be sick
Why not just eliminate the distributor and covert it to coil on plug.
This is a great idea, thing is to search is someone has done it before and save on the R&D
@ It would just be a matter of converting the distributor base to function as a cam sensor and attaching a trigger wheel to the crank. It is fairly common practice when converting any older distributor based system to coil on plug.
Super stoked to see the next iteration of the miata! Been here since you worked construction and got your first 12valve!
Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!🤙
It's gonna sound insane when it revs out, I cannot wait!
HEMI BROTHERRRRRRRRR!!!! Woould've been better if it was a chevy nascar engine. CANT WAIT!!!
Excellent stuff! Love the sound of the used nascar engine Tony Angelo put in his 55 Chevy. Absolute monster of an engine, and a great use for it.
Pretty sure Mitchell Stapleton has the same engine in his NASCAR he just built
The NASCAR Miata is going to sound insane at Drift Appalachia Touge events. Screaming through the hollows of WV. 😊
Just remember, this is not an ls, this a real racing engine. An ls is a punk in comparison. Not to throw shade at the ls engine, this is a different thing altogether. This is a handbuilt true racing piece, no holds barred, no expense considered engine. Please treat it as such. It will be fun, just be prepared to rebuild everything before racing the Miata. This engine will rip it apart in a short period of time.
Fuel Injection with Injectors, Boom tube exhaust Taylor!
What a score!!!!
Definitely should pay homage to the nascar roots and put boom tubes on her
Just imagine how intense the miata will sound with that engine in it
180 degree headers!
That engine would be better suited for the monte but I respect the vision for the miata too. I'm just happy to see the miata get some love.
Carbureted please. Good lord this things going to be unique. The creativity of Taylor Ray never ceases to amaze me.
That motor looks SICK in the miata
I also think you should stay carbureted. I feel like there’s a reason all of those race motors (dirt track included) are carbureted. I have confidence you could learn to properly tune a carb. You’re really good at stepping out of your comfort zone and learning new things
The cars stay carbed because some people can't or are unwilling to learn wiring and efi, plus for most it's cheaper to just slap in different fuel jets or retune the carb to do what they need. Buuut in my experience it's just old guys that are too stubborn to accept efi is better 🤷♂️
the only reason in nascar's unwillingness to develop
@ that’s a fair take on the scenario. Definitely plausible
@ that’s a fair take on the scenario. Definitely plausible
Absolutely pumped for this build. That much power in the little miata with that nascar sound is going to be perfectly insane.
A customer built set of tri-y headers would make it sound CRAZY and would make all kinds of power
That's what we ran on cup cars, they wouldn't end til halfway back on the transmission, long as fuck in comparison to street headers
@ the scavenging affects are super helpful for making power and as a bonus they sound 👌
Taylor 100% has some of the craziest builds going on!!!! So excited to see them all come together
Is it the short track version or the speedway engine. Look at the rotating assembly, if it is beefy. It is a speedway engine, it is less desirable for your application. Please check carefully before you put it in the Miata.
Oh dude, I am SO hyped for this, what a build. The Miata has earned it!
SO STOKED for this one!!! I love this idea! Ole girls gonna be a WEAPON next season in small tire! Also for what it’s worth, I think fuel injection would be worth the headache up front to be easy later. Plenty of time to figure it out! Keep it up TRay appreciate you!
I’m hoping you keep the carb and the distributor.my wife’s uncle helped develop those cylinder heads for Joey Arrington back in the day and the tech that was used for that is mind blowing even back then.His stories from those days are super interesting.
The jibber was really jabbing today and I love it, amazing find Taylor! Excited is an understatement for this build 👌🏾
Its so great seeing good things happen to good people. Cant wait to see this build.
Glad to see you still got my video from Mexico. 😎 Haha. Can’t believe it’s been that long. 33:33
Remember that thing is used to living at those high revs at much higher vehicle speeds than you'll reach while drifting, and you may be best off considering the cooling as a package; you're gonna need lots of fans to force air through the radiator, maybe ducted scoops & such for oil & trans cooling and maybe even some fans for those as well
Cup engines are designed to run _extremely_ hot, with cooling inlets taped off as much as they could to reduce drag. So long as he keeps flow up and doesn't literally boil the fluids out of it, he'll be fine.
Can’t wait to see this build get a refresh. Hopefully some wheels are on the cards
4:34 Young you would be blown away!!! No jibber jabber needed.
Surprised @Taylordrifts knew what a sprint car was!! Definitely can't wait to see this engine car combo RIP!!
I'm excited for Taylor to finally use his Rogue Fab tube bender ;) maybe...
i remember when taylor first started talking about putting a nascar engine in the miata, so cool to see this slowly come to fruition
Always loved the old ls build series, but the Nascar engine rebuild is by far going to be the crazy and wildest version of this car. Looking forward to seeing everything you do with this project