Interesting to say the least. Before throwing in the towel, I have a suggestion. Wash with DIY Detail Rinse Less Wash or another that leaves nothing on the surface for next week’s wash.
@@orthodox1717these aren’t true coatings. Agitating an IPA is enough to remove the Griots, Dimitry has showcased that on his channel. My point is using a wash that leaves nothing behind is the safest way to not accidentally remove some of these “coatings” while trying to leave them 100% clean.
You are rapidly moving to one of my top five detailers! Keep up these thorough techniques and testing. 😊 Griots has always been top shelf, and Surface Wash has been my goto soap for 6 years and beat every competitor until Primus 2.0 came out. They are such great soaps. Also, you have proved what we all know and that is how fast spray on ceramics wear off.
Jamie, I was a sealant junkie. Now thanks to you and Eddie! I'm becoming a coating kinda guy. My last sealant I used is From Lithium. Avalanche. I must say I haven't had a chance to coat my own car. I've done 2 coatings. Ethos EzPz. As my first! I was pretty nervous. But it was really Easy to work with. No high spots or anything else. I just got done applying DIY 5 year coating on a 2016 pearl white Lexus. It was hot! But I applied it in the shade in the late afternoon. It was a quick work time. But I had enough time to do each panel and wipe it down. No high spots. Anyway! If you are going to do a sealant test again. I highly recommend Avalanche by Lithium. I put it on in Late March. It's still going strong. Thanks for everything you do!😉
@@lorenreyes2855 that’s epic 💪🧼 yeah coatings these days can be just as easy as the sealants and give you much better results especially when well taken care of. I definitely need to put some lithium to the test more
IDK, 3 weeks in and this what we getting. We better off buying a gallon of Meguiars synthetic xpress spray wax, a old ancient product that still delivers. I promise you that you gonna get a solid 2 months with it. Its similar prices at these "toppers" but you get wayyyy more in a gallon
@@Chris-wv2wi well I'm speaking from experience, I've been using it for the last several years. You can get a solid 2 months from it. Although it may not outlast a SIO2 spray sealant, it is a synthetic sealant so you actually get more bang for your buck in terms of your dollar because it only falls short a very little bit but it's way way way cheaper
@@TheBreakfastLover I never said its more durable, i said for a few of these spray sealants on the panel, you may as well go with express spray wax because you get more bang for your buck. Its just as durable as the weaker spay sealants on this panel, cost a similar price as the weaker ones but you get a gallon size and not just 16 ounces
Nice work. I am wondering if you did a second panel with the products reversed if that would make a difference as the very bottom row typically gets more grit and "gets worn out" before the upper portion of the panel (at least that is what I see with coatings on my cars).
Griots looks good, I currently have hybrid solutions ceramic spray that’s been holding strong after a month, no decon, but this will be my next choice to try out. Thanks Jamie!
I think we all learned some stuff from this testing. I have to say most interesting test I ve ever seen with the soap squares and now that IPA situation. Very cool. 😎
@@privacyrules from what I've seen, this pre-wash is basically as weak as they come. You have to use something like Bilt Hamber Touch-Less, Auto Foam, Primus 2.0 etc. to get actual cleaning.
Nice comparison 👍👍👍 Just an idea, maybe on your next test of spray on sealants what about going back in the archives of a few years ago and comparing the better brands of 2021 vs 2024 ? Example , testing Seal & Shine, The Last Coat or Moonlight with today’s big hitters …. Griots 3in1, Can Coat, Ceramic Gloss, ADS etc Cheers 👍
Maybe some other spray sealants say this in their SDS too, but Griots has a warning about organ damage and damaging fertility effects in the SDS. The heck is in there 😂
I’d like to see TW Hybrid Solutions Ceramic spray coating in this test. I just started my own test yesterday on my daily driver. Half of the truck is TW ceramic spray and the other half is DIY ceramic Gloss. Now we wait and see. It’s going to be hard to beat TW.
Pretty underwhelmed with my Boss Foam Cannon. The little ball on the straw doesn’t roll around all that well and gets stuck in certain areas without liquid in the cannon reservoir leading to just spraying out water I’ve also got each area tightened down as much as I possibly can and I still get water spurting out of the connecting areas
So we’ve always said mineral deposits were “clogging” coatings. Is it possible that surfactants are also a factor in clogged coatings? It would explain why it takes a few rinses for water beading to return after contact washing. It may also explain all of the post-soap trickery that gets recommended to restore water beading. IPA rinsing is about to be the next big thing.
In my opinion sir, if a car came to my shop with poor water beading as this, I would definitely be applying something stronger to see if I can get the customer through at least several washes!
That’s hilarious that a product that’s been out for years and is readily available at an auto part store is still better than the “specialty” companies products. I’ve actually used Resist on my cars before here in Alabama. It’s a good 6 month spray sealant.
Would you consider testing some Jax Wax products? I've been using their products exclusively because they have a retail store in my area, and I've been really happy with them. There isn't much talk online about them, I'd love to see how they hold up against these other brands!
Just my opinion but how about a duplicate test on the ol Cleaner Chevy? 2 different vehicles same test. Don't know if it matters but could be interesting.
I don’t think they suck, but it just comes to show you how superior coatings are compared to spray sealants. They’re excellent maintenance toppers for coatings, so not all is lost here.
Idk if it's been said. But I think the bottom row probably didn't get a fair shake. Since every detailer wash video you see they all say the bottom 1/4 of the car gets the most road grime, brake dust, etc. and abuse of the whole car. I think they'd all have to be done on the bottom or top of the panel for a fair test. EDIT: As I was typing that, you brought the subject up 🤣
@@cliffelmore5834out of curiosity, what soaps did you guys use? I remember thinking the same thing when I was a big fan of Chemical Guys Glossworks. It's the most insane looking soap, but the glossifiers or something just completely crushed Wolfgang 3.0 sealants water behavior. I thought the sealant had died but then I used Reset and it came back to life. Of course I blamed the sealant which is amazing to use by the way and started using seal and shine and meguire's hcw. Now I just stick to to clean car washes that offer zero protection.
I’ve used it as stand alone protection with much better results that last up to 2 months. But I would agree that for this test, BC2 would have been the product that more closely matches the claims of the other products for durability. I really like BC2. The hydrophobics are similar to No Hype 1.
So you inadvertently just increased the sale of Griots 3n1 and car soap😂😂…while showing ADS, Ethos, Apex, DIY, Jimbos and even Labocosmetica might wanna go back to the drawing board😂😂….however in the case of BC3 it’s not a sealant like the other 5 are. Apex has/had a sealant BC2 that would’ve been a more fair comparison.
Jamie, love your content but nobody has time for that!!! Whatever happened to installing a product, wash it and get on with life if the product was good. You’re doing like 7 steps. Now everything is like “well if the angle is not right “ or “it’s too hot” or “ the moon was not full” the product doesn’t work. The manufacturers are making tooooo many excuses. Been detailing since my teenage years that’s 40+ years and it has never been this bad. Just put fusso coat and don’t worry about the paint for at least the next 6 months. But like I said, love your content except these things.
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SO many odd things going on with this test lol... one thing we can all agree on, GRIOTS IS GOATED in this test.
love a company that understands its competition and respects it! Big W for ADS
You will make something better and stronger!! Your knocked hero out of the park.
Just for this comment i trust that company, Respect i would be getting something from your brand Armour
Interesting to say the least. Before throwing in the towel, I have a suggestion.
Wash with DIY Detail Rinse Less Wash or another that leaves nothing on the surface for next week’s wash.
You got it
With the IPA and water spot rinse, I would think Jamie removed anything that was left behind?
@@orthodox1717these aren’t true coatings. Agitating an IPA is enough to remove the Griots, Dimitry has showcased that on his channel. My point is using a wash that leaves nothing behind is the safest way to not accidentally remove some of these “coatings” while trying to leave them 100% clean.
@@JamieTheCleanerGood morning, what do you think of the green sponge?
I have had extremely good results using DIY rinseless on sealants and coatings. It definitely doesn’t leave a film.
You are rapidly moving to one of my top five detailers! Keep up these thorough techniques and testing. 😊 Griots has always been top shelf, and Surface Wash has been my goto soap for 6 years and beat every competitor until Primus 2.0 came out. They are such great soaps. Also, you have proved what we all know and that is how fast spray on ceramics wear off.
People need to put some respect on Griot's name and not write it off just because it's available at autoparts stores. 😤
Long vertical rows will definitely make it a more even field. Great video as always, that swamp water be killing everything. 😂
Griots has great products, they take their time bringing them to market, and they all perform very, very well.
Jamie, I was a sealant junkie. Now thanks to you and Eddie! I'm becoming a coating kinda guy. My last sealant I used is From Lithium. Avalanche. I must say I haven't had a chance to coat my own car. I've done 2 coatings. Ethos EzPz. As my first! I was pretty nervous. But it was really Easy to work with. No high spots or anything else. I just got done applying DIY 5 year coating on a 2016 pearl white Lexus. It was hot! But I applied it in the shade in the late afternoon. It was a quick work time. But I had enough time to do each panel and wipe it down. No high spots. Anyway! If you are going to do a sealant test again. I highly recommend Avalanche by Lithium. I put it on in Late March. It's still going strong. Thanks for everything you do!😉
@@lorenreyes2855 that’s epic 💪🧼 yeah coatings these days can be just as easy as the sealants and give you much better results especially when well taken care of. I definitely need to put some lithium to the test more
Jamie its impressive how quickly you can kill coatings! 😂
You know it ✊🏼🤣
lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's that swamp water.
😂
I wonder how P&S Defender would’ve held up in this test?
Props to the Griots, it always seems to hold up really well.
Lord how that panel prep cleaned it
IDK, 3 weeks in and this what we getting. We better off buying a gallon of Meguiars synthetic xpress spray wax, a old ancient product that still delivers. I promise you that you gonna get a solid 2 months with it. Its similar prices at these "toppers" but you get wayyyy more in a gallon
It’s not going to out last a si02 based sealant. waxes only last a week or two before they lose their shine and water behavior
@@Chris-wv2wi well I'm speaking from experience, I've been using it for the last several years. You can get a solid 2 months from it. Although it may not outlast a SIO2 spray sealant, it is a synthetic sealant so you actually get more bang for your buck in terms of your dollar because it only falls short a very little bit but it's way way way cheaper
I've used Meguiar's synthetic spray wax and Griot's Ceramic Spray wax. No question the Griot's is far more durable than the Meguiar's.
@@TheBreakfastLover I never said its more durable, i said for a few of these spray sealants on the panel, you may as well go with express spray wax because you get more bang for your buck. Its just as durable as the weaker spay sealants on this panel, cost a similar price as the weaker ones but you get a gallon size and not just 16 ounces
@@Dee--Jay spray waxes might save money upfront, but not time nor effort. Griot's can last 9-12 months.
I’ve been using Griots for 2 years after seeing longevity tests on Scott HD page. I’ve seen 8-10 months water beading on many cars.
Nice work. I am wondering if you did a second panel with the products reversed if that would make a difference as the very bottom row typically gets more grit and "gets worn out" before the upper portion of the panel (at least that is what I see with coatings on my cars).
Valid query. If we saw griots doing that in the bottom row, you'd have some pretty good info
Griots 3 in 1 is built different 😳
Griots looks good, I currently have hybrid solutions ceramic spray that’s been holding strong after a month, no decon, but this will be my next choice to try out. Thanks Jamie!
Great video! Never know what’s happening next in this head to head. Interested and wild swings!
Looks like people might be sleep in’ on Griots??? Great review!!! Super interesting 🧐
This is awesome channel i always looking forward watching his video.
Thank u for watching
I think we all learned some stuff from this testing. I have to say most interesting test I ve ever seen with the soap squares and now that IPA situation. Very cool. 😎
Love Griot's surface wash. Great vid, Jamie!
Most definitely!
It’s dope
except it didn't rinse clean and unclog the surface.
@@miscellaneous5215 this assumes that nothing from previous washes was still on the surface
@@privacyrules from what I've seen, this pre-wash is basically as weak as they come. You have to use something like Bilt Hamber Touch-Less, Auto Foam, Primus 2.0 etc. to get actual cleaning.
Nice comparison 👍👍👍
Just an idea, maybe on your next test of spray on sealants what about going back in the archives of a few years ago and comparing the better brands of 2021 vs 2024 ?
Example , testing Seal & Shine, The Last Coat or Moonlight with today’s big hitters …. Griots 3in1, Can Coat,
Ceramic Gloss, ADS etc
Cheers 👍
No Tech Choice? Has to be a crowd favorite among professionals..both ceramic and their graphene max
Intriguing! Cool post-IPA action.
Maybe some other spray sealants say this in their SDS too, but Griots has a warning about organ damage and damaging fertility effects in the SDS. The heck is in there 😂
@@Lucid77157 dang the good stuff
Would have been nice to have the coating flipped on the other side of the vehicle. Just to see the difference from top to bottom row.
O that’s a pretty good idea 👍
What about the surface slickness feel of these now, Jamie? Is anything left by touch? Great channel BTW...thx!
Griots seems to foam the most with the IPA rinse, interesting stuff.
Griots for the win. And it’s pretty economical
I’d like to see TW Hybrid Solutions Ceramic spray coating in this test. I just started my own test yesterday on my daily driver. Half of the truck is TW ceramic spray and the other half is DIY ceramic Gloss. Now we wait and see. It’s going to be hard to beat TW.
I’ll do a best in the big box store showdown 👍
How are you going to keep us updated on this?
@@rooboy99 uh make videos?
😂
another channel did Griot's vs TW Hybrid ceramic sprays and the Griot's won easily
Man Reggy was not lying!
WILD
Reggy never is!
Wonder how the solvent based spray sealants would fair?
Pretty underwhelmed with my Boss Foam Cannon. The little ball on the straw doesn’t roll around all that well and gets stuck in certain areas without liquid in the cannon reservoir leading to just spraying out water
I’ve also got each area tightened down as much as I possibly can and I still get water spurting out of the connecting areas
So we’ve always said mineral deposits were “clogging” coatings. Is it possible that surfactants are also a factor in clogged coatings? It would explain why it takes a few rinses for water beading to return after contact washing. It may also explain all of the post-soap trickery that gets recommended to restore water beading. IPA rinsing is about to be the next big thing.
Yes surfactants seem to be a big problem with “failing protection” 👍
In my opinion sir, if a car came to my shop with poor water beading as this, I would definitely be applying something stronger to see if I can get the customer through at least several washes!
I would like to see Fireball Pirouette thrown in the ring 🔥
this is turning into a nice test. Very realistic. As a side note, the T is silent in Griots
That’s hilarious that a product that’s been out for years and is readily available at an auto part store is still better than the “specialty” companies products. I’ve actually used Resist on my cars before here in Alabama. It’s a good 6 month spray sealant.
Smoked em 💨
Would you consider testing some Jax Wax products? I've been using their products exclusively because they have a retail store in my area, and I've been really happy with them. There isn't much talk online about them, I'd love to see how they hold up against these other brands!
Very very interesting 👍
Could you do the same test on the other side and maybe do two per panel, maybe the top 4 instead of 6?
I think you're onto something. sometimes the soap is the "clogging" issue. not just the road grime.
Just my opinion but how about a duplicate test on the ol Cleaner Chevy? 2 different vehicles same test. Don't know if it matters but could be interesting.
Interesting test
What degree is your spray nozzle on the pressure washer?
Griots kickn butt👍🏼👊🏼👊🏼
And taking names
I don’t think they suck, but it just comes to show you how superior coatings are compared to spray sealants.
They’re excellent maintenance toppers for coatings, so not all is lost here.
Idk if it's been said. But I think the bottom row probably didn't get a fair shake. Since every detailer wash video you see they all say the bottom 1/4 of the car gets the most road grime, brake dust, etc. and abuse of the whole car. I think they'd all have to be done on the bottom or top of the panel for a fair test. EDIT: As I was typing that, you brought the subject up 🤣
Did em dirty 🫠👍
I hope your future test with BOSS foam cannon will try using it direct to the GG Surface Wash bottle
Definitely gonna do a whole review with all the features
This is weird because I always felt like Griot’s clogged easily on me. Maybe I’m crazy or there’s just so many variables.
Similar experience. Griots didn't stay hydrophobic for me very long.
@@cliffelmore5834out of curiosity, what soaps did you guys use? I remember thinking the same thing when I was a big fan of Chemical Guys Glossworks. It's the most insane looking soap, but the glossifiers or something just completely crushed Wolfgang 3.0 sealants water behavior. I thought the sealant had died but then I used Reset and it came back to life. Of course I blamed the sealant which is amazing to use by the way and started using seal and shine and meguire's hcw. Now I just stick to to clean car washes that offer zero protection.
Hmm🤔 Definitely a strange outcome to this test. Don’t know what to make of it, maybe someday it will all make sense😂
I’m beginning to think different paint systems may have way different outcomes. 🤷🏻♂️ Jamie eluded to this in the video, kinda. 😜
Great showdown!
Gri-Oats FTW
...Jamie got that death touch...
LOL
Zem-fer is a great soap
Remember, BC3 is just a topper! not a stand alone
Sure 👍
I’ve used it as stand alone protection with much better results that last up to 2 months. But I would agree that for this test, BC2 would have been the product that more closely matches the claims of the other products for durability. I really like BC2. The hydrophobics are similar to No Hype 1.
Griots holdin it down!
Should have used Bead Hero Jamie!
Gree-Ohs FTW!
Great video I learned a lot
So you inadvertently just increased the sale of Griots 3n1 and car soap😂😂…while showing ADS, Ethos, Apex, DIY, Jimbos and even Labocosmetica might wanna go back to the drawing board😂😂….however in the case of BC3 it’s not a sealant like the other 5 are. Apex has/had a sealant BC2 that would’ve been a more fair comparison.
Griot's for the win!!!
GYEON WET COAT IS THE GOAT
Griots🔥🫡
First!!!
You're so fast Humberto
@@kirkwilson5900 😜😜😜I was lucky!
And,sanganooo😂😅😮 cabeza Ñame 😅😅😅😅😅
😢 @@nelsonrivera4976
Jamie, love your content but nobody has time for that!!! Whatever happened to installing a product, wash it and get on with life if the product was good. You’re doing like 7 steps. Now everything is like “well if the angle is not right “ or “it’s too hot” or “ the moon was not full” the product doesn’t work. The manufacturers are making tooooo many excuses. Been detailing since my teenage years that’s 40+ years and it has never been this bad. Just put fusso coat and don’t worry about the paint for at least the next 6 months. But like I said, love your content except these things.
lol