I have worked with RC airplanes and other RCs my whole life, when you plugged the power in with your arm going through the blades, my heart dropped. I know nothing should ever happen, but sometimes electronics are wonky, be careful!
yall do realize he is plugging power to the battery and not the actual operating system. he has to disconnect the power source to charge said power source.
Welcome to the electric world! I got the first generation Open PPG SP 140 and I have loved it ever since. I love the reliability and how smooth it is. I can let off the throttle and just glide quietly. Hope you have a blast!
3d printed parts are not automatically weak, there are types of printers, filament, and processes that result in extreme strength, such as used in ultra expensive performance cars. Just the typical stuff people print are not using the high temp, higher end equipment. Especially given the constant vibration of a paramotor, I would have to agree with Tucker, in general.
Fatigue is a wild animal in a dynamic application (lots of vibration, harmonics). Even metals that meet theoretical strength targets with a safety factory can be destroyed by harmonics.
Compared to a molded part, they ARE much weaker, almost always. Tucker is right to complain. Paramotor flying puts your life at risk - no need to add to the risk factor by using parts that are inherently quite fragile compared to the equivalent molded or machined part.
Something like SLS nylon would have been fine here; that wouldnt crack; but this fdm cracked out of the box stuff is indeed a bit unbecoming of something you are going to fly in...
FYI you can change the flight mode in the field without having to plug it into the computer. When the throttles arm just hold down the button and it'll switch modes.
I love my electric paramotor. The simplicity and smoothness is just a game changer in my opinion. Still have my old gasoline motor for the few long flights however.
Like the early electric autos (or electric anything!), an ePPG is in the very early adoption phase and Open PPG should be congratulated on starting this whole transition. I’ve been following them for years and Paul has done a great job in bringing this unit to the PPG community. Not perfect by any means and most pilots may be turned off by the low flight times…but battery tech continues to progress and soon more and more pilots will wonder how they ever put up with 2 stroke noise, smell, oil mixing, constant maintenance, and engine outs (I’ve had 4). I hope this starts to encourage other players in the game. I do know of other pilots starting to put together electric units. Since I only fly around 30-50 minutes on each flight, I fully intend to get one. I would also love an add-on system to current frames as I would prefer something like the Fly Products Eclipse, Kangook (or Rider). Thanks for the review and will look forward to your discovery flights! Would love to know if anyone out there has had quality 3D parts fail?
@@TuckerGott I also wanted to mention that those curious can visit the website and read a lot of feedback on the community forum. I love how open and helpful everyone is and quick to answer any questions. Thanks again!
Seems that electric is better suited on a trike where you could theoretically add bigger batteries for longer flight times and still be able to launch, whereas adding weight to a standard PPG would make it almost impossible or at least impractical to launch. Double the battery and you have something with flight times worthy of spending the money on. Right now the flight time is just too short to justify imo.
@@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 You will run into the issue of diminishing returns similar to (though not the same as) the rocket equation. More battery weight = need more energy output to maintain flight. Use more energy means getting less flight time/KWh total... it's a balancing act. *Can* you get more flight time on electric? Absolutely you can - there are now all-electric small planes out there - but it does mean you end up scaling everything up, including $$$.
What do you think about using an electric paramotor in a flight school? "Engine Management" is much simpler with electric propulsion. No pull start, no cold / warm start problems, ... So a flight student can concentrate more on handling the glider etc. and needs less attention to the engine. Less work load is exactly what is needed in this scenario. The limited flight time doesn't matter for your first small hops into the air.
@@TuckerGottinteresting that somebody mention this. i also just finished another version specially for schools with safety features build in, for students who are ready for their first flights. fall down protection, lightweight around 16kg, fast charging battery packs which are full in 10-15 min ect. a simple training unit for schools. inexpensive and robust.
It is better to learn with the type of equipment you will use later. It is easier to learn good habits from the start than to start with bad habits, then unlearn the bad habits to replace them with good ones. There is no point to learn to drive an automatic gearbox car if you plan to drive a manual.
I find electric stuff is less intimidatingly too for a beginner.. Not as much noise etc... I will say even being around dirtbikes and motorcycles growing up, my gas paramotor scared the sh** out of me for a while until I got use to it.
@@warrenkral6562 excellent point. i also agree that a rumbleling 2 stroke on my back was really not helping to get the nerves down. and electric ppg is very powerful but without the drama and the missing vibrations making it the perfect first flight training unit. i also say that first PPG flights should be electric in every school.
Very well made video Tucker! Thanks for all the information and entertainment. Happy to support Risky Biscuits for all the amazing content over the years, and for a chance to win that e-PPG! 🤩
Thank you for doing this review! Can’t wait to see more videos with it. Also nice to see my comment asking to review this shown in the beginning of the video! 😀 as someone who hasn’t got into the sport yet, this setup intrigues me more than gas powered.
@@jonahreyes615 It’s a para glider. When the battery dies. You only have. 30 minutes of flight left,, maybe more depends on updrafts. You should think about what you wrote….
@@jonahreyes615 Once you're out of gas or battery power you just become a normal paraglider. You can tip toe in a landing with any amount of head wind.
@@jonahreyes615 This question reminds me of that one time I heard someone worried they wouldn't be able to see if the battery on their smart glasses ran out.
Been subscribed forever. Saw the new video show in my feed way late after not seeing one for at-least a year. I clicked the bell this time so I always see new Tucker Gott videos.
I've been subscribed for about 2-3 years and have been really excited about flying soon. I've finally started a paramotor savings account and have been putting some cash in every paycheck. I live close to Aviator Paramotor and can't wait to start learning. I love your videos. Thank you for the inspiration!
I love 3D printing myself and have wanted to get into the paramotor sport! I agree with your assessment though that using 3D printed parts for structural components is a no-go. If those were to fail during flight, it could lead to catastrophic failure as the propgaurd could disassemble and be ingested by the prop. Causing prop strike, damage, and material ejection (possibly hitting your chute or person). However, for the throttle control, I think it's totally fine. And would be fun to print your own custom one!
Great video man! It is cool that you can 3D print your own quality apart. At least I know with carbon fiber and other materials with a high-end printer you can make some pretty cool stuff intricate also!
I've taken a little break from your channel, but came back and see how much your channel has grown and how good the production quality is now. Keep it up!
I use 3d printers and don’t really mind the 3d printed parts, they can be very strong if printed properly and using the correct filament. I also like that the files are available and you can print extra parts when needed 👍 Looking forward to the first take off and flight review 🪂
What I gained from this is that the motor will mount to a standard frame if you want to switch existing equipment over to electric. In theroy you could just buy the motor, controller and battery. Would be cool to build a custom battery for this even tho the packaging they have is pretty sweet thats a wicked expensive battery.
i was curious whether the battery should really be considered expensive. it's $2,200 and could give you ~900, 30 min flights (before battery degradation makes continued usage untenable), so 10 years of flying? recharging costs could vary a lot depending on your location, but compared with gas, oil, engine maintenance & replacement parts etc., you might find it's actually cheaper for your total cost of ownership to go electric. but you're comparing that to much longer range/flight times with gas and the convenience of quickly refilling, which might be a dealbreaker depending on the type of flying you want to do.
I used to work at the company that made the netting. Dyneema is a very strong material. We would test pull it at pretty high strengths. We testing one past the max, and it made a round straight bar turn into a wavy noodle.
Definitely different from what you normally ride, but i was excited to see it fly so well, and impressed by the distance life on a charge. As always, thanks for sharing this content Tucker!
Yes!! Quick release prop hubs are not safe!! I'm glad you feel the same tucker. I've been preaching to my friends that were running them to not. The time "saved" is not worth the possible departure of your prop
From a non paramotor pilot here, seems to me the biggest advantage of electric would be reliability and fewer parts to fail, combined with lower maintenance and minimal vibration and noise. Weight and flight time would be the biggest detractors. It's enticing to not have to worry about fuel stability, freshness, ethanol levels, carburetor tuning, engine starting, vibrating parts falling off, etc. If I ever tip my toe into this sport, pretty sure it will be with electric.
@@MichaelRei99 Not worried about it. I have carried cell phones in my pocket with the identical battery technology for 20 years and never had any problem. The technology is matured and relatively safe. Most problems with batteries occur when they''re being charged with improper equipment or when they are ruptured with physical damage.
3D printed parts aren't a problem per se if you choose the right printing method and material. For example I could see SLS printed nylon working well for this application. Alternatively he could CNC some moulds and injection mould parts himself, that's also possible these days.
Been looking at the SP140 for awhile so I’m stoked for this series! If you ever need some replacement 3d printed parts for it hit me up. I have a 3d print farm and I’m in your area.
I've been flying the sp140 for 2 years now, overall it's a pretty nice machine. I really like the new frame and swing arms! I've done quite a few videos on how this thing works and I'll be interested to see what your opinion is on this electric motor
I love this. While commenting while listening, perhaps the timing for acceleration is to reduce blades contortions your weight? Or be more efficient which I'd imagine is likely. Weight depending, I'd consider having the battery below the motor to save space and depth if this could be configured to be packed easier and faster setup. I'd consider having the battery mounted around padded thin plastic to make insertion easier. The electrical connections are cool but same principal as a lawnmower or kettle switch, stubborn to remove and reconnect so I'd personally like a lock on it but with trad blade pins, you may not. Could be an option. Was weight mentioned without the batteries? My thoughts are probably common: which is more weight preferred, with an empty tank being cumbersome and could we use an ev charging point? If applicable, how could one reach an ev charger, say, xc? Noise reduction with electric? Power differences? Ive always agreed with that on 3d printing, it feels and looks cheap; they're for unseen things or prototypes. Bottle tops make a fantastic way to melt onto forms at home for relatively free, just need an oven or dehydrator, waffle iron anything flat and hot, with a rolling pin. Idk if printed metal is comparatively strong Thanks for sharing!
@6:35 When you flipped that switch and it beeped... IT'S RUNNING! I'd really like to have that switch reachable from the harness but in anycase just consider that on=running! easy.
I wonder if it should make some kind of audible alert (something that wouldn’t get annoying) that reminds you that the system is armed. I also prefer state switches, not push button switches. I should be able to look at a switch and tell if it’s in the ON or OFF position, not some push and hold nonsense.
This review was so well produced! Can’t wait to see a bunch of these aloft all at the same time! I’m sure we’ll see electric-only PPG events in the near future!
You're very trusting of that controller when you're connecting the battery while reaching through the prop! Very cool setup, though! Hoping to learn to fly one some day. :)
I don't mind taking off full weight (70lbs) if i know I'm going on a xc, but landing every flight still at 75lbs, that would be rough on the back, at least for me it would.
I think the 3-D printed parts are the best feature of this frame. It means one can have an infinite amount of cheap spare stress parts on hand, sacrificial parts if you will. I would try printing nylon or PETG (coke bottle plastic) and not PLA or ABS. Either way, it’s a good excuse to get a 3-D printer.
Nylon (potential even carbon fiber or glass fiber nylon) or pc should really be the only choices here. Abs and petg have so-so overall strength. Pla has crazy high strength, but is brittle and creeps quite badly.
Bro I've watched you since the very beginning. Love paramotoring and haven't yet had the opportunity to enjoy it...However I've seen you grow and change throughout these videos...man must say very good times and great life you seem to have.. I'm not hating instead giving PROPS...lol Looking good man looking good
great move forward, the 'only' negative of watching you glide through the heavens was that funky, noisy brutal 2 stroke buzzing along, now you can reach pure nirvana
Pretty interesting - I'm not a pilot but interested in the space (maybe one day I can afford to get into it!). I'm curious if this is quiet enough that you don't need ear muffs during flight (I guess you'd still need a headset for a mic and radio?). I wonder how noisy this would be with those funky quiet looped props we are seeing in the drone world 🤔
Awesome, the only change i would make is a cut-off switch for the motor somewhere along the bracket side. And also a charging port to easy charge it without unplugging it from the motor the whole time. But further would love to see videos in the air how it performing
Remember that when a propellor is installed , the bolts need to be torque checked with a torque wrench in a specific sequence , to make sure all the bolts carry the same load . This prevents hardware falures .
I'm not a flyer, but I would imagine that 90-98% of gas paramotor flight logs are well within an hour, so this electric offering would make sense in most use cases. Gas for cross country if conditions permit.
Those 3d printed parts could be used to create molds so you can pour epoxy pieces. (This would be the proper use of 3D printing in a product like this, using 3D printed parts directly in a product like this isn't the idea I had in mind.) To make it act more like a gas motor, once it's armed, the motor should start spinning at an extremely low RPM just to give a highly visible and a sound indicator that the system is turned on. (Think the laws that require electric cars to have motor sounds or another indication of movement via sound.)
on your way up north again stop by my area saint Pete sarasota and we will go on one off the sickest island hoping flights. I have a extra paramotor for ya
I understand your hesitation on the still standing prob when armed. My solution would be a slow turning of the motor, like a simulated idle or a warning sound like a from a slow EV
Maybe the manufacture can give you the print files and you could have them printed in metal using something like pcbway. Or have them get them printed in metal for you. Kinda sketchy to rely on cheap components when in the sky. Hopefully this comment reaches you!
Nice review! I bought one of these last year (with the small battery) but didn’t get a chance to properly use it yet, looking forward to see what you think of it in use.
@@MichaelRei99 well staring with the first commercial paramotors like the konig powered machine and the DK whisper which I own every time a new model comes out 90percent of the time it’s always more efficient then the last when it comes to weight, thrust, and all around fly time including the huge leaps in two stroke tech and harness designs the fact that these electric paramotors are keeping up with powerful gas engines is amazing and I feel advance the sport
Great video and the electric seems like the ONLY way to go. Now, we live in San Tan Valley and that field looks very familiar. Did you film all this just south toward Coolidge? If you are local I'd love to connect. My girl has always wanted to try this and we'd like to connect with you when you're free to learn more. Thanks
Darn, wish I waited buying the training chute til now. Would replace most of the 3d printed parts as we have a metal printer at work. Was concerned about the proximity of the battery cable to blades, but must be ok otherwise you would have said something. Looking forward to next vid.
Welcome to the world of tomorrow! Now you're cooking with electricity you get a lot of immediate advantages but still one or two small things that could come back to bite you. Start up and shut down are things of the past, no more handling fuel or dosing it with oil enjoy keeping your fingers clean, instant power response and a smooth torque curve, in theory longer engine life as electric motors last much longer than piston engines as they have less moving parts and little vibration. This looks like a great unit and I'm interested to see what you make of it.
Love it....although not the 3D printed parts. I ordered one (would have been my 1st) but had to cancel before delivery (after waiting months on a preorder) as I didn't have space and funds were drying up, sadly, I remain grounded.
I see a potential safety issue, I think the speed controller should be made to "beep" the motor (use it like a speaker to make an audible tone without actually moving the propeller) every few seconds when it is in armed mode and not spinning, so you know the throttle is live. Most hobby drones using Betaflight do this.
Very cool! I love the simplicity of electric propulsion in general. I'd rather have a known lifespan of the battery compared to constant maintenance and repairs on a gas engine. In the long run, the cost is the same since batteries are expensive but you can't put a price on the time savings!!!
Loving electric over petrol, especially for vanlife where batteries can be charged by solar. But those batteries are so expensive compared to other batteries on the market. Are they Lifepo4?
3d PRINTED PARTS printed in ABS are bad ass and extremely tough. If they lowered the layer lines and acetone smoothed it you wouldnt be able to tell it's 3d printed. Looks like they printed them really fast. Yeah just wanted to say.
There's a _lot_ of options for 3d-printed plastics; it looks like they chose a poor polymer and probably should have put in the effort to print in ASA or even nylon. Even better, they could have printed the prototype, then cast a mold, and then cast the finish part out of another plastic to get far stronger and smoother parts.
The guy drove the quad wide open throttle for over 2 mins, I believe it was a 400cc Polaris quad. Made me think if a hybrid metal/nylon 3d print might actually work, the top of the piston turned to goo and fouled the plug out, the rest of the piston was in good shape...
Every time you I watch your videos and you break it down and explain I think to myself "I can learn to do this one day, Its so awesome." I can wait to see the comparison between gas and electric.
Does the battery support limiting the maximum charge state to 80%? With many battery chemistry this can more than double the useable lifespan of a battery pack, so say at 1000 charge cycles "100%" on a pack that was fully charged might now be 70% of its original charge state, where "100%" on a pack that was only ever charged to 80% might be 90% of the original capacity.
It's a dream to own a paramotor and i'm hugely into EV paramotors. Been a subscriber and watcher from sidelines for many many years. Thank you for the content and i'm deeply keeping fingers crossed that luck of the draw chooses me for once :') If i win can't wait to grab a ozone mojo and fly into the skies in peaceee.
As someone who works with high end professional 3d printers, I can say these FDM 3d printed parts are not my first choice. If they were to use HP MJF nylon 12 parts, they would be equal to an injection molded nylon part. I'll be reaching out to the company to see if they'd like us to quote out higher end parts as we are also in Ohio.
I have worked with RC airplanes and other RCs my whole life, when you plugged the power in with your arm going through the blades, my heart dropped. I know nothing should ever happen, but sometimes electronics are wonky, be careful!
I came to make the same comment. You never know when a motor controller might malfunction and quickly send that blade into his arm.
@@johndelorean2284 same lol, my heart dropped too
yall do realize he is plugging power to the battery and not the actual operating system. he has to disconnect the power source to charge said power source.
@@sunraku79 yah that’s the scary part
@@sunraku79 he could do it from the other side I would for sure make a little spot in the net to reach through
Welcome to the electric world! I got the first generation Open PPG SP 140 and I have loved it ever since. I love the reliability and how smooth it is. I can let off the throttle and just glide quietly. Hope you have a blast!
3d printed parts are not automatically weak, there are types of printers, filament, and processes that result in extreme strength, such as used in ultra expensive performance cars. Just the typical stuff people print are not using the high temp, higher end equipment. Especially given the constant vibration of a paramotor, I would have to agree with Tucker, in general.
Fatigue is a wild animal in a dynamic application (lots of vibration, harmonics). Even metals that meet theoretical strength targets with a safety factory can be destroyed by harmonics.
He said one of them was cracked.
Compared to a molded part, they ARE much weaker, almost always. Tucker is right to complain. Paramotor flying puts your life at risk - no need to add to the risk factor by using parts that are inherently quite fragile compared to the equivalent molded or machined part.
@@SwingingPythonsyes, but from the transport
Nonetheless not a good sign in general ^^
Something like SLS nylon would have been fine here; that wouldnt crack; but this fdm cracked out of the box stuff is indeed a bit unbecoming of something you are going to fly in...
FYI you can change the flight mode in the field without having to plug it into the computer. When the throttles arm just hold down the button and it'll switch modes.
Everything can be over ridden.
@@chrisanderson9157 no
Quanto custa completo ?
I love my electric paramotor. The simplicity and smoothness is just a game changer in my opinion. Still have my old gasoline motor for the few long flights however.
Like the early electric autos (or electric anything!), an ePPG is in the very early adoption phase and Open PPG should be congratulated on starting this whole transition. I’ve been following them for years and Paul has done a great job in bringing this unit to the PPG community. Not perfect by any means and most pilots may be turned off by the low flight times…but battery tech continues to progress and soon more and more pilots will wonder how they ever put up with 2 stroke noise, smell, oil mixing, constant maintenance, and engine outs (I’ve had 4). I hope this starts to encourage other players in the game. I do know of other pilots starting to put together electric units. Since I only fly around 30-50 minutes on each flight, I fully intend to get one. I would also love an add-on system to current frames as I would prefer something like the Fly Products Eclipse, Kangook (or Rider). Thanks for the review and will look forward to your discovery flights! Would love to know if anyone out there has had quality 3D parts fail?
I agree, it's really awesome to see everything Paul has done. There are some huge advantages over gas and it will only get better with time.
@@TuckerGott I also wanted to mention that those curious can visit the website and read a lot of feedback on the community forum. I love how open and helpful everyone is and quick to answer any questions. Thanks again!
My main question is the giveaway open to the uk? 😂I'll be having the adrenaline addict tee anyway... but I like to get my hopes up 😂
Seems that electric is better suited on a trike where you could theoretically add bigger batteries for longer flight times and still be able to launch, whereas adding weight to a standard PPG would make it almost impossible or at least impractical to launch. Double the battery and you have something with flight times worthy of spending the money on. Right now the flight time is just too short to justify imo.
@@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 You will run into the issue of diminishing returns similar to (though not the same as) the rocket equation. More battery weight = need more energy output to maintain flight. Use more energy means getting less flight time/KWh total... it's a balancing act. *Can* you get more flight time on electric? Absolutely you can - there are now all-electric small planes out there - but it does mean you end up scaling everything up, including $$$.
What do you think about using an electric paramotor in a flight school?
"Engine Management" is much simpler with electric propulsion. No pull start, no cold / warm start problems, ... So a flight student can concentrate more on handling the glider etc. and needs less attention to the engine. Less work load is exactly what is needed in this scenario. The limited flight time doesn't matter for your first small hops into the air.
I think it could be a really good school motor with the lightweight battery and on the "chill" mode.
@@TuckerGottinteresting that somebody mention this. i also just finished another version specially for schools with safety features build in, for students who are ready for their first flights. fall down protection, lightweight around 16kg, fast charging battery packs which are full in 10-15 min ect. a simple training unit for schools. inexpensive and robust.
It is better to learn with the type of equipment you will use later. It is easier to learn good habits from the start than to start with bad habits, then unlearn the bad habits to replace them with good ones. There is no point to learn to drive an automatic gearbox car if you plan to drive a manual.
I find electric stuff is less intimidatingly too for a beginner.. Not as much noise etc... I will say even being around dirtbikes and motorcycles growing up, my gas paramotor scared the sh** out of me for a while until I got use to it.
@@warrenkral6562 excellent point. i also agree that a rumbleling 2 stroke on my back was really not helping to get the nerves down. and electric ppg is very powerful but without the drama and the missing vibrations making it the perfect first flight training unit. i also say that first PPG flights should be electric in every school.
Dude I love how you break it down! Epic video man! Cant wait to see the next video on it!!
looks amazing. Literally the only constructive criticism i have is when u attach the battery you prob dont want ur arms in between the blades.
Very well made video Tucker! Thanks for all the information and entertainment. Happy to support Risky Biscuits for all the amazing content over the years, and for a chance to win that e-PPG! 🤩
Very much appreciated!
Thank you for doing this review! Can’t wait to see more videos with it. Also nice to see my comment asking to review this shown in the beginning of the video! 😀 as someone who hasn’t got into the sport yet, this setup intrigues me more than gas powered.
Electric …. First thing that comes to mind .. is being able to power on and off. And ride the wind. In silence….
What happens if the battery dies in air does it land like some drones Or does it beep when it’s about to die
@@jonahreyes615 It’s a para glider. When the battery dies. You only have. 30 minutes of flight left,, maybe more depends on updrafts. You should think about what you wrote….
@@jonahreyes615 Once you're out of gas or battery power you just become a normal paraglider. You can tip toe in a landing with any amount of head wind.
@@jonahreyes615 This question reminds me of that one time I heard someone worried they wouldn't be able to see if the battery on their smart glasses ran out.
Been subscribed forever. Saw the new video show in my feed way late after not seeing one for at-least a year. I clicked the bell this time so I always see new Tucker Gott videos.
I've been subbed to your channel for a long time and I got to say its so awesome seeing what you built out of this channel dude
I've been subscribed for about 2-3 years and have been really excited about flying soon. I've finally started a paramotor savings account and have been putting some cash in every paycheck. I live close to Aviator Paramotor and can't wait to start learning. I love your videos. Thank you for the inspiration!
I'm thinking positive on this giveaway 👍👍, good luck everyone!! Thanks Tucker for always giving back!! 🤟😎
Good luck to you!!
I love 3D printing myself and have wanted to get into the paramotor sport! I agree with your assessment though that using 3D printed parts for structural components is a no-go. If those were to fail during flight, it could lead to catastrophic failure as the propgaurd could disassemble and be ingested by the prop. Causing prop strike, damage, and material ejection (possibly hitting your chute or person). However, for the throttle control, I think it's totally fine. And would be fun to print your own custom one!
Great video man! It is cool that you can 3D print your own quality apart. At least I know with carbon fiber and other materials with a high-end printer you can make some pretty cool stuff intricate also!
I've taken a little break from your channel, but came back and see how much your channel has grown and how good the production quality is now. Keep it up!
I use 3d printers and don’t really mind the 3d printed parts, they can be very strong if printed properly and using the correct filament. I also like that the files are available and you can print extra parts when needed 👍
Looking forward to the first take off and flight review 🪂
What I gained from this is that the motor will mount to a standard frame if you want to switch existing equipment over to electric. In theroy you could just buy the motor, controller and battery. Would be cool to build a custom battery for this even tho the packaging they have is pretty sweet thats a wicked expensive battery.
i was curious whether the battery should really be considered expensive. it's $2,200 and could give you ~900, 30 min flights (before battery degradation makes continued usage untenable), so 10 years of flying? recharging costs could vary a lot depending on your location, but compared with gas, oil, engine maintenance & replacement parts etc., you might find it's actually cheaper for your total cost of ownership to go electric. but you're comparing that to much longer range/flight times with gas and the convenience of quickly refilling, which might be a dealbreaker depending on the type of flying you want to do.
I used to work at the company that made the netting. Dyneema is a very strong material. We would test pull it at pretty high strengths. We testing one past the max, and it made a round straight bar turn into a wavy noodle.
Definitely different from what you normally ride, but i was excited to see it fly so well, and impressed by the distance life on a charge. As always, thanks for sharing this content Tucker!
Yes!! Quick release prop hubs are not safe!! I'm glad you feel the same tucker. I've been preaching to my friends that were running them to not. The time "saved" is not worth the possible departure of your prop
From a non paramotor pilot here, seems to me the biggest advantage of electric would be reliability and fewer parts to fail, combined with lower maintenance and minimal vibration and noise. Weight and flight time would be the biggest detractors. It's enticing to not have to worry about fuel stability, freshness, ethanol levels, carburetor tuning, engine starting, vibrating parts falling off, etc. If I ever tip my toe into this sport, pretty sure it will be with electric.
Spot on! I will be doing an in depth gas vs electric comparison.
You forgot the biggest concern , if the battery decides to go on fire mid flight.
@@MichaelRei99 Not worried about it. I have carried cell phones in my pocket with the identical battery technology for 20 years and never had any problem. The technology is matured and relatively safe. Most problems with batteries occur when they''re being charged with improper equipment or when they are ruptured with physical damage.
@@MichaelRei99ohh, you're not the brightest bulb in the box, aren't u? 🤣
@@elbigotesdelatiendaAnd why‘s that - oh great clueless battery guru? 🤦♂️
3D printed parts aren't a problem per se if you choose the right printing method and material. For example I could see SLS printed nylon working well for this application. Alternatively he could CNC some moulds and injection mould parts himself, that's also possible these days.
Been looking at the SP140 for awhile so I’m stoked for this series! If you ever need some replacement 3d printed parts for it hit me up. I have a 3d print farm and I’m in your area.
I've been flying the sp140 for 2 years now, overall it's a pretty nice machine. I really like the new frame and swing arms! I've done quite a few videos on how this thing works and I'll be interested to see what your opinion is on this electric motor
do you find it to be easier? like as far as maintenance, storage, and running cost..
I love this. While commenting while listening, perhaps the timing for acceleration is to reduce blades contortions your weight? Or be more efficient which I'd imagine is likely. Weight depending, I'd consider having the battery below the motor to save space and depth if this could be configured to be packed easier and faster setup. I'd consider having the battery mounted around padded thin plastic to make insertion easier. The electrical connections are cool but same principal as a lawnmower or kettle switch, stubborn to remove and reconnect so I'd personally like a lock on it but with trad blade pins, you may not. Could be an option. Was weight mentioned without the batteries? My thoughts are probably common: which is more weight preferred, with an empty tank being cumbersome and could we use an ev charging point? If applicable, how could one reach an ev charger, say, xc? Noise reduction with electric? Power differences?
Ive always agreed with that on 3d printing, it feels and looks cheap; they're for unseen things or prototypes. Bottle tops make a fantastic way to melt onto forms at home for relatively free, just need an oven or dehydrator, waffle iron anything flat and hot, with a rolling pin. Idk if printed metal is comparatively strong
Thanks for sharing!
Breaking it down! Love this and look forward to learning a lot more! These videos will influence a few choices I think! I know I am watching.
I have a SP140.... loving it❤️ welcome to Phoenix👍👌👍
@6:35 When you flipped that switch and it beeped... IT'S RUNNING! I'd really like to have that switch reachable from the harness but in anycase just consider that on=running! easy.
I wonder if it should make some kind of audible alert (something that wouldn’t get annoying) that reminds you that the system is armed. I also prefer state switches, not push button switches. I should be able to look at a switch and tell if it’s in the ON or OFF position, not some push and hold nonsense.
Thanks, can't wait for the future videos of this thing
Good stuff my dude, loved all the info. Crazy that just another battery is $2200. Definitely already enjoying this series
Finally! Cant wait to watch you test it
While I don't love the aesthetic of 3d printed parts, the ability to download the files and print them myself is amazing!
You wouldn't download an aircraft
This review was so well produced! Can’t wait to see a bunch of these aloft all at the same time! I’m sure we’ll see electric-only PPG events in the near future!
Epic dude!!! The shirts are so dope! Epic video man watching now! Super stoked!!! Sick you got the three blade on there!!!!
Thanks man! Pretty proud of these designs.
@@TuckerGott you got the best shirts out! Stoked to get the new shirts man!!
You're very trusting of that controller when you're connecting the battery while reaching through the prop! Very cool setup, though! Hoping to learn to fly one some day. :)
I don't mind taking off full weight (70lbs) if i know I'm going on a xc, but landing every flight still at 75lbs, that would be rough on the back, at least for me it would.
I think the 3-D printed parts are the best feature of this frame. It means one can have an infinite amount of cheap spare stress parts on hand, sacrificial parts if you will. I would try printing nylon or PETG (coke bottle plastic) and not PLA or ABS. Either way, it’s a good excuse to get a 3-D printer.
Nylon (potential even carbon fiber or glass fiber nylon) or pc should really be the only choices here. Abs and petg have so-so overall strength. Pla has crazy high strength, but is brittle and creeps quite badly.
@Tucker Gott - I can see the work in the gym is paying off! Looking good my man! Great content as always!
Bro I've watched you since the very beginning. Love paramotoring and haven't yet had the opportunity to enjoy it...However I've seen you grow and change throughout these videos...man must say very good times and great life you seem to have.. I'm not hating instead giving PROPS...lol
Looking good man looking good
That XT60 connector is huge!! Really cool paramotor, and I think electric is the way to go!
That would make a sick ceiling fan !
Facts. Insane circulation.
I was thinking lawnmower actually.
3D Printed it's a wise thing for small production. You can print upgrades and mods in a few hours
"I've never flow an electric paramotor before:" Not quite true. You flew Peter Sripol's frankenstein electrical paramotor, The internet never forgets,
bro, you look jacked, keep it up
great move forward, the 'only' negative of watching you glide through the heavens was that funky, noisy brutal 2 stroke buzzing along, now you can reach pure nirvana
This is what I've been looking forward to most after watching years of your videos!
Here for the Electric Butt Fan!
Yessir!!!
Whoever designs your merch does a great job
Pretty interesting - I'm not a pilot but interested in the space (maybe one day I can afford to get into it!).
I'm curious if this is quiet enough that you don't need ear muffs during flight (I guess you'd still need a headset for a mic and radio?). I wonder how noisy this would be with those funky quiet looped props we are seeing in the drone world 🤔
Awesome, the only change i would make is a cut-off switch for the motor somewhere along the bracket side. And also a charging port to easy charge it without unplugging it from the motor the whole time. But further would love to see videos in the air how it performing
Tucker, about how long is an average flight for you? The flightime per charge will be a critical dataset. Thanks in advance.
It's hard to say an average for me. I am either going for a quick 15 minute flight or an hour plus long cross country.
Remember that when a propellor is installed , the bolts need to be torque checked with a torque wrench in a specific sequence , to make sure all the bolts carry the same load . This prevents hardware falures .
I'm not a flyer, but I would imagine that 90-98% of gas paramotor flight logs are well within an hour, so this electric offering would make sense in most use cases. Gas for cross country if conditions permit.
Those 3d printed parts could be used to create molds so you can pour epoxy pieces. (This would be the proper use of 3D printing in a product like this, using 3D printed parts directly in a product like this isn't the idea I had in mind.)
To make it act more like a gas motor, once it's armed, the motor should start spinning at an extremely low RPM just to give a highly visible and a sound indicator that the system is turned on. (Think the laws that require electric cars to have motor sounds or another indication of movement via sound.)
on your way up north again stop by my area saint Pete sarasota and we will go on one off the sickest island hoping flights.
I have a extra paramotor for ya
Got my first lesson booked in for this sunday thanks to your videos! Cheers budddyyy 😁
I understand your hesitation on the still standing prob when armed. My solution would be a slow turning of the motor, like a simulated idle or a warning sound like a from a slow EV
Maybe the manufacture can give you the print files and you could have them printed in metal using something like pcbway. Or have them get them printed in metal for you. Kinda sketchy to rely on cheap components when in the sky. Hopefully this comment reaches you!
Nice review! I bought one of these last year (with the small battery) but didn’t get a chance to properly use it yet, looking forward to see what you think of it in use.
looking forward to this series..... electric changed the RC world off basically being much more reliable. and the abilty to just charge and go.
I'm not sure, did you mention the 3d printed parts? Did you like them or no? Could you mention it again.
The advances in this sport is really amazing.
And how exactly does it advance the sport??
@@MichaelRei99 well staring with the first commercial paramotors like the konig powered machine and the DK whisper which I own every time a new model comes out 90percent of the time it’s always more efficient then the last when it comes to weight, thrust, and all around fly time including the huge leaps in two stroke tech and harness designs the fact that these electric paramotors are keeping up with powerful gas engines is amazing and I feel advance the sport
Seems a HUGE plus to 3d printed parts is being able to print them at home, don't have to order and then wait for it to ship out.
Can't wait to see it fly! Looking forward to the upcoming videos 🤘
Great video and the electric seems like the ONLY way to go. Now, we live in San Tan Valley and that field looks very familiar. Did you film all this just south toward Coolidge? If you are local I'd love to connect. My girl has always wanted to try this and we'd like to connect with you when you're free to learn more. Thanks
Get 4 of them and make a jetson drone - sit on it.
Are we talking about paramotors here or…
Pretty cool.. thanks for doing this
Darn, wish I waited buying the training chute til now. Would replace most of the 3d printed parts as we have a metal printer at work. Was concerned about the proximity of the battery cable to blades, but must be ok otherwise you would have said something. Looking forward to next vid.
Welcome to the world of tomorrow! Now you're cooking with electricity you get a lot of immediate advantages but still one or two small things that could come back to bite you. Start up and shut down are things of the past, no more handling fuel or dosing it with oil enjoy keeping your fingers clean, instant power response and a smooth torque curve, in theory longer engine life as electric motors last much longer than piston engines as they have less moving parts and little vibration. This looks like a great unit and I'm interested to see what you make of it.
I’m eager to see the flights and your impressions on this one.
Happy birthday bro! 😎🎂
Love it....although not the 3D printed parts.
I ordered one (would have been my 1st) but had to cancel before delivery (after waiting months on a preorder) as I didn't have space and funds were drying up, sadly, I remain grounded.
With the 3D files available you could even send them off to be machined if you want that so that is cool
I see a potential safety issue, I think the speed controller should be made to "beep" the motor (use it like a speaker to make an audible tone without actually moving the propeller) every few seconds when it is in armed mode and not spinning, so you know the throttle is live. Most hobby drones using Betaflight do this.
Aaaaah! We need part 2!
Love it! Can't wait to see the follow-up videos!
Very cool! I love the simplicity of electric propulsion in general. I'd rather have a known lifespan of the battery compared to constant maintenance and repairs on a gas engine. In the long run, the cost is the same since batteries are expensive but you can't put a price on the time savings!!!
Yeah and if the battery decides to go on fire mid flight that would be pleasant.
@@MichaelRei99 Why would the battery randomly go on fire?
@@maxrei8786 IDK why do batteries randomly go on fire?
Loving electric over petrol, especially for vanlife where batteries can be charged by solar.
But those batteries are so expensive compared to other batteries on the market. Are they Lifepo4?
As always, awesome content.
I would be interested in an objective comparison of noise. If you could actually measure decibels compared to ICE.
Good call, that would be an interesting test.
3d PRINTED PARTS printed in ABS are bad ass and extremely tough. If they lowered the layer lines and acetone smoothed it you wouldnt be able to tell it's 3d printed. Looks like they printed them really fast. Yeah just wanted to say.
Great breakdown.
I would see about getting those 3d printed parts made from cnc aluminum
There's a _lot_ of options for 3d-printed plastics; it looks like they chose a poor polymer and probably should have put in the effort to print in ASA or even nylon. Even better, they could have printed the prototype, then cast a mold, and then cast the finish part out of another plastic to get far stronger and smoother parts.
The guy drove the quad wide open throttle for over 2 mins, I believe it was a 400cc Polaris quad. Made me think if a hybrid metal/nylon 3d print might actually work, the top of the piston turned to goo and fouled the plug out, the rest of the piston was in good shape...
Every time you I watch your videos and you break it down and explain I think to myself "I can learn to do this one day, Its so awesome." I can wait to see the comparison between gas and electric.
Can’t wait to see first flight
Does the battery support limiting the maximum charge state to 80%?
With many battery chemistry this can more than double the useable lifespan of a battery pack, so say at 1000 charge cycles "100%" on a pack that was fully charged might now be 70% of its original charge state, where "100%" on a pack that was only ever charged to 80% might be 90% of the original capacity.
its about time! you are the last person i know to have gotten one!
As an e bike owner, I'm loving what you're doing with this. Can't wait to see it fly.
It looks/sounds like it's got so much power!
Well, that and the fact that it was blowing you around on the ground and you nearly hit your car 😂
It's a dream to own a paramotor and i'm hugely into EV paramotors. Been a subscriber and watcher from sidelines for many many years. Thank you for the content and i'm deeply keeping fingers crossed that luck of the draw chooses me for once :') If i win can't wait to grab a ozone mojo and fly into the skies in peaceee.
yeah like peter stripol plane mk4 good upgrade
As someone who works with high end professional 3d printers, I can say these FDM 3d printed parts are not my first choice. If they were to use HP MJF nylon 12 parts, they would be equal to an injection molded nylon part. I'll be reaching out to the company to see if they'd like us to quote out higher end parts as we are also in Ohio.
Man these new neighbors have to be giving some seriously crazy looks 😂😂
probably wondering why he strapped the lawn mower to his back and how he is supposed to cut the grass that way
Miss you guys out this way😢