I Bought The World's Cheapest Paramotor On AliExpress!
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You don’t know how much you have inspired me although I’m a kid I still want to get one when a grow up
@@King_carcar Awesome chase your dreams and live life to it's fullest. I'm not Tucker but, I say follow your dreams kid. It's good to see kids who still enjoy the outdoors.
“I have no reason to believe it won’t support the weight of my massive balls.”
Tucker Gott 2023 🤣🤘
Yup, got that!
Came here specifically to write this! Hilarious
I had to go back ! “wait. What? Did he just say that? Yup yup he did. Lmao “
@@benjaminhurmx Also did a double-take hahaha it came outta nowhere
😂😂
So in addition to what you received you needed:
- prop
- bolts
- battery
- carabiners
- minor metal bending skills
- some RTV & threadlock
- mucho bravery
Thanks Tucker, I'm sure plenty of us have looked at those ads and wondered.
List seems correct except it comes with a stock 32" prop.
@@saxonsoldier67 Got stuck thinking that sexy carbon prop would be a must have.
But you're correct, in which case no need for more bolts.
You may want to consider relocating the LiPo. Thermal Runaway happens super fast, and next to the cheap plastic fuel tank you may not have time to remove it and toss it before it grenades.
A LiPo bag is definitely a good idea. Also some sort of LiPo battery monitor/alarm is a good idea too. You can get small ones that plug into the balance port and make a pretty loud beep if they start to get low.
Moving it up off the ground to avoid puncturing a cell is a great idea.
I'm not too concerned about it running away. A DLE 170 needs between 4.8 and 9 volts for the ignition system. A 2S 5000 mAh lipo will have lots of capacity. The JST connector means it's not drawing a lot of amps. It's also a relatively constant draw, not the spikes seen in an RC car or plane. Those spikes drawing current as fast as the battery can supply are what heats up a battery.
Maybe consider a LiFeP04 that is far less likely to have thermal runaway. The FAA did a study on the fire hazards of various lithium chemistries and LiFeP04 was the only type that did not propagate fire to adjacent cells in a pack. Do a search for DOT/FAA/TC-16/17 if you would like to read it.
The problem is with LiIon not LiPo4 batteries. Lithium Iron is not a stable mix. If there is a short they become an excellent marine flare!
@@ulbuilder LiFePO4 can not do thermal runaways. They might boil of the fluid but thats it, even with a nail through it. Can't believe anyone would use Li-Ion instead for purposes like this where a thermal runaway has quite a high degree of killing you and furthermore is mounted in a high vibration environment.
the sketchy thing about the battery I would say is it being right next to the fuel tank :D
I feel the same way about that.
That and when a LiPo battery fails they go thermal which you're probably not gonna want to grab with your hand. Nothing quite like grabbing a flaming battery.
THANK you! I am not the only one then to think this battery will superheat, burn, melt the fuel cell and turn the pilot into a human torch
@@lothre I mean, I wouldn't bet the battery would fail, I think the probability for that battery to explode is very low, but if it does, under those conditions, you got no escape from that, so it's probably a good idea to find a way to keep the battery and the gas tank apart from each other.
Or use a battery that doesn't carry that risk.
We live in a world where 3000 dollars is cheap...from aliexpress
Still cheap
yeah cheap for a paramotor
For a paramotor that's cheap
In india you could get for less than 2000dollars
@@richooztube_official Where?
After truing the manifold surfaces, use high temp red RTV (no gasket) and RED loctite on the bolts. Let cure for 24 hours. Exhaust will not come loose for years. Been using engines like that for 10+ years, I know from experience what works. ;)
What’s your thought on ultra copper for exhaust sealant?
I’ve never used red myself, but on my aircooled vw’s ultra copper has been great, if not perfect.
@@orbitaljellyfish808 Ultra copper (Permatex product) can handle a higher temperature than red RTV, though it's similar (700 C vs 650 C). According to Permatex, Ultra Copper is exhaust sensor safe where red RTV is not. I would imagine though that in an engine like this you could use either product and you'd be good.
You wont be able to throw away the lithium battery before it does some serious damage, they generally release most of their energy within a couple seconds, like a small flare. Seems kinda risky right next to the fuel tank.
Not to mention potentially severe burns on your hand
Tucker burning his hand is nothing compared to if he accidentally burned his massive balls.
@mavicminipilot I heard his balls are so massive that if one side caught fire, it would take seven years for the flames to spread across to the rest of his balls
Not all "Lithium" batteries are the same. This would be a very good application for Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) cells, most often advertised as A123 (the brand name that actually makes the best ones). They won't "vent with flames" as we used to say about lithium ion pouch cells. I use them as the starter battery in my offroad motorcycle, they have survived many crashes and are good for an easy five years of use.
no. believe me, they dont just explode randomly. i have a similar one, 3s 11.1v 4000mah, i accidentally overvolted it while charging and it didnt got hot or explode. it was at 4.4v on one cell and its supposed to be 4.2v
No Magneto, no alternator, a separate start and run battery would give some redundancy. Diodes allowing the start battery to charge the run battery or run off the start battery. So, starting is only with the start battery, but running can be both batteries.
I have no idea if you have tried this, but make sure that cheap prop is balanced correctly. That may really help with the vibration.
"Avery Flies" has a great playlist of videos on this paramotor including upgrades and fixes to make this thing a keeper.
Pro tip here. Locktite makes a high temp & high strength locktite for exhaust bolts. Might also use a dab on the spark plugs. Those cheap pot metal aluminum cylinders are famous for spitting spark plugs out the hole along with the threads. Also only use an expensive high quality spark plug that has well formed & dimensioned threads. eg: NOT AUTOLITE. Kiss those muffler flanges on a belt sander. Drop the fuel bowls and look for any fod they are famous for casting residue clogging up jets. Good luck.
ngk spark plugs will do
Awesome insight man thanks for sharing your knowledge 🙏
Batteries definitely need to be in a lithium fire safe container. And it can't have the possibility of becoming separated from the airframe if it goes TR. That would be unsafe for the ground below.
But now you're literally "the bomb". 👍
I have been following you for years now and I always love every video you upload. Before discovering your channel back in its infancy, I had no idea how much went into paramotoring. Keep it up man!
Same
I'm sooper excited to follow this sequence of upcoming videos.
I was one of the 'four' that purchased that same paramotor about a month ago. I don't know what the deal is because mine came with the blue frame. Mine was actually packed very well. The parts were wrapped pretty much like yours but mine had a lot of packing to keep everything from shifting around during shipping. I had a little bit of a time getting the carb adjusted. Glad that it is an actual Walbro instead of a knock off copy.
how does it fly dude?
U fly it
@@eliassanchez420wakenbake he ded trying it
@@DARKSLIDEHLL Sure it flies!! Kinda older tech but it does it's job. I weigh 160 lbs and I have no problem.
Idk I feel like a flying chair is one of those things you should never ever cheap out on, but still really cool to see!
Ayo! Been looking forward to this Tucker!
Had the honor of meeting your father this past week and he told me all about this passion of yours and i couldnt wait to get home and check your page out! You my friend have balls of steel, as does Pop lol Congrats on following your dream brother! New fan! No pun intended
Tucker I want to get started in this awesome sport, had back injury from work and this looks like something I can still do after talking to my physical therapist. Thanks for inspiring people and giving a fantasy a realistic point of view!
You addressed my concerns with these knock off motors. The exhaust will crack after couple uses, so good you sealed it at least to start. A good fuel filter is crucial. They come with crappy ones or none. Lock tight and check regularly. Move battery. The cage will support your massive balls so you should be good! (Great content as always)
I think you made a great point about manufacturers perhaps going “smaller” and lighter instead of always emphasizing power. Smaller cage and engine combined with a light but comfortable harness would be ideal for someone just wanting to get in the air without a lot of frills. The closest I can think of is the Nirvana F-light…but I had a lot of problems with the engine and it’s NOT inexpensive. Thanks for the video and will look forward to the first flight.
Been waiting for this video since your post!!! Awesome dude!
Amazing! I'm not anything like a paramotor pilot, but I love your videos. It's amazing what you've done with this inexpensive paramotor. It's so tiny compared to your other motors, and kinda sounds toylike. Good work.
I’m glad you got one. I’ve been chatting with Avery and the others. I live in an island with nice winds and I’ve been wanting something that’s easy to transport on airlines. These are an obvious choice for that purpose.
I’ll for certain be keeping an eye out for your maiden voyage video!
That's amazing, it had DHL tape on it and was delivered in under a month, just WOW!
Ok!!! I finally got to watch!! Dude I can’t believe how she sounds! The E start sound good! Funny how small it is! Can’t wait to see you flying it! Epic like always dude!
Thanks Tucker,
This is a very helpful video.
I always worry about Tucker .. His enthusiasm always looks for the next level of challenge ...We have become a friend of his ... all of us in a strange one way ..way
That's not "friendships". It's entertainment.
@@selfproclaimednobody4614 maybe ..it's just that it feels I know this guy...just missing the part where we talk to him back
@@gacj2010yep, it's called a parasocial relationship
@@emarskineel Its real , man ...this guy has shared everything about himself to us...Watched how he interacts with care and concern for others, saw him take a person with cancer up .. hes family to me .. and probably you too...would love to meet this guy but Im sure hes so busy with the business and flying ...Some day Ill fly when I can
@@gacj2010 nah, he doesn't know me and he's just putting out entertaining and interesting videos. I want to meet him about as much as he wants to meet which is none, because he doesn't know who I am
The primer bulb probably was not safe for ethanol in the gasoline. The chinese manufacturer probably didn't consider ethanol, because only the U.S. puts food in the gas tank.
Tucker you never cease to amaze with the bravery. This scares me more than the power flip.
I haven’t been watching you for some time, but ga daymn you got big. Respect!
Tucker, have you ever though about building some type of engine stand so you can ground start a motor safely?
Love your videos!
Well if he's giving it away. It's gotta be safe enough for someone else to use.
If he lived to tell us what happened then it was obviously good enough for him.
Final last words.
I think it's safe enough for someone else to use... Doesn't mean I'd use it 😉... It IZ all about them Risky Biscuits tho. Eye on the prize guys!
He had to make several modifications to it for it to work.
I am impressed with you level of mechanical knowledge. You seem to have a skillful understanding of the engines.
Just came back to the channel after a while of being away. Can't believe how much older and better you look with the new hair!
The sketchiest part of that is definitely the battery. You're trusting the circuitry to be designed in a way that does not strain the battery to failure. Lithium fires burn extremely hot and fast, and I wouldn't rely on being able to unplug and chuck it lol. It being right next to the fuel tank doesn't help either.
I’m flying with special version of DLE micro paramotor and it is absolutely epic! 🎉
Awesome! Can’t wait to see it fly!
Can’t wait to see you try it out!
The prop bolt issue also could have been fixed by using a lock washer and a fender washer or two on each bolt, which you really should be using anyways just like you’re supposed to on a Moster prop hub. The lock washer prevents backing out and the fender washer protects the hub and encourages more uniform pressure distribution.
I assume the replacement propeller bolts are aviation grade (were the originals?). So many SPoF on this unit. That engine is not even close to man rated. I wouldn't fly it.
@@TheGregstorm That's why Tucker has big ol' balls and yours are tiny or nonexistent.
@@salazam Good to hear input from the moron sector :)
@@TheGregstorm Aw the little girl got mad at me!
Cant wait to see this thing in the air! Longevity is definitely a concern. Is it lighter than an Atom Mav?
These random gear reviews are great mate 👌👌
I've been looking forward to this video!!
one day I will buy the paramotor that is my dream, thank you tucker
This is interesting and fun... a novelty. But for new people trying to get into paramotoring at a discount, please don't order this. You would be better off buying a reputable, well maintained used paramotor. Something like a used Atom 80 will give you more reliability, parts supply, support, smoother ride, quieter, etc.
Just buy a parachute and duct tape 4 quadcopter drones to an external frame backpack, if you want to get into paramotoring cheaply.
Agreed.
@@AveryFlies big shout out to Avery!
Great comprehensive explanation. I am going to watch the next video of flight now. Thank you
As long as you know how to rebuild the engine, remachine the exhaust manifold, and replace the fuel lines, this is a great ready-to-use paramotor!
Don’t forget, replacing the carabiners and adding a lithium battery.
To be fair you are talking about only like 1 hour of work, and like $80. ANY new flying device I inspect longer than that. My new motorcycle it took me less than 2 minutes to find several loose bolts (barely had to touch the mirrors and they were flopping around, how is that suppose to be useable for a bike that is made to do 160 mph?) I don't like any mechanic touching my stuff, and I've already made several custom parts for that bike. Those engines however are fully exposed and easy to work on and simple, unless its Japanese I'm probably going to check everything before even test running it on the ground, and if its Japanese I still check the bolts that are accessible.
I’ve bought new motorcycles that required bolt tightening, carb adjustment and battery charging prior to using on the road. I think this just highlights the need to check stuff prior to using vehicles at height or speed.
@@jakegarrett8109 that is ridiculous. Nobody has a shop like this. I don’t have the tools or the knowledge to do any of this. I want a machine that is ready to fly out of the box. That is a stupid statement you made about only 1 hour of work.
@@jerryuma I'm pretty slow, but I can rebuild/replace bearings in my racing lawn mower in 30 minutes (time to roll in to time to roll out of my 1970s lawn mower with pulley swap for 40 mph speeds (in low speed setting on my variable pulley setup), something like that only takes blocks of wood (lift tires up manually), and some hand tools (socket/ratchet/ratchet extension/hammer/chisel). So if I can take apart and weld diffs (I have 3 transmissions for it) in under 1 hour then you can surely work on an air cooled engine that fast with $80 in tools...
I've even welded (repairing) and machined my own crankshafts for weedwhackers that I've used for custom front wheel drive motorized bicycles, as a CHILD! Working on essentially a lawn mower is literally childs play, so I'm sure you can do it (my living room I have a motorcycle engine apart down to the crankshaft sitting on my floor), it doesn't need anything fancy, get you an $8 metric socket and ratchet kit from Harbor Freight and you can do almost anything with that engine. Get some files and sandpaper and you can even do a port and polish job since it's a 2 stroke, I've even changed compression ratios and starting systems for similar 2 strokes like that engine (and custom exhaust and custom needle bearings for clutches instead of bushings for higher side load applications like my belt drive bikes). Most of that took a file and some safety glasses (and then finding the centripetal auto clutch weights as they flew apart and put some new holes in the shop door, haha!)
Awesome work, great review!!!
Most of the "No Name" products you get off Ali have sourced cheaper components, with terrible Casting of Metals and the products eventually fail and break down easily. You are expierenced -- but be careful especially with the metal parts that look good brand new but Ive seen them fail countless times from fatigue. Alot of the Metal made overseas has no quality control & microsocpic imperfections.
This is my concern, and the same also applies to the harness. It might look good with webbing of a suitable size, but who knows what the actual load capacity is? How can we know what alloy has been used for the buckles and other critical parts?
No-name Chinese stuff has its place, but I only ever trust it in applications where a failure is inconvenient, but not dangerous.
You're telling him like he doesn't know already.
Where’s the flight video???
We’re waiting….. 🎉😂🎉😂🎉
wooo! I have to admit I was a bit nervous at the beginning of the vid, but your attention to detail and the tour/explanations/upgrades have me sharing your excitement for a trial. From hobbyist to test pilot: the story of Tucker Gott.
holy i havent watched this channel for like almost 7 months now. glad to be back!
I feel like this is the perfect motor for my wife! Though I may want to modify it or build my own frame so it’s a little safer and lighter.
Lol
Yep, definitely cheaper than a divorce lawyer.
@@abikeanditsboy3449 😂😂
@@abikeanditsboy3449 And way cheaper than alimony and family court awards. I think the OP is onto something here!
@@abikeanditsboy3449 can confirm
Has anybody ever flown a paramotor with a cat or dog along for the ride? Would that be an FAA violation?
Casual Tay Zonday comment.
There’s vids with both
PPGGorilla of Florida Flight Sports flys with his dog Jackson on a trike. 😁
I’ve seen dogs. Never a cat though. It’s pretty loud, I know my cat would hate it.
@@nathanmccollochmore like gay zonday
Ready to see you fly this beast!
3:33 “I have faith it’ll support the weight of my massive balls” ⚽️ 🏀 😂
Great video. My only worry is that you’re going to have novices seeing the cheap price and ultimately buying it and they probably won’t do the tinkering you did (because of your expertise and experience in doing this for a living). I just hope people think it through first before attempting to buy and get trained properly. 😅
4 Days, i cant wait to see the first flight and initial thoughts! I though buying dirt bike parts was sketchy off aliexpress, you took it to a whole different level.
Your like a big kid fun to watch thank you for shareing
Can’t wait to see you fly it! Only 6 or 7 things you had to fix on it for it to be reliably flight ready… 😅
Please call this paramotor "Darwin's Reward" as a play on words of Darwin Awards, because you're taking your life in your hands by strapping that fan to your butt
That's the trophy for winning.
😂😂
Hell yeah can’t wait to see it in the air!
Cool glad your doing a review on this
Dude questions whether it will fly but Already plans to give it to a “lucky viewer”
Very cool! Your harness, hoop, and wiring look nicer than mine. Seems like they remembered all the parts in your package!
I recognize that propeller, it's the better one of the two. The prop that didn't fly me was a 2-piece slot together type, but that one should fly you fine.
I fit mine in the passenger seat with the prop on. Can't wait to see it fly!
I bet there’s a market for a unit this light. Surely not a cross country or high performance, but for quick and fun flying it could be ideal. Thanks for sharing
“..carry the weight of my massive balls”
Humor so subtle, I almost spit my drink out
1st
FROM SOMEBODY LIVING IN CHINA: oh god i hate this bloody thing. and i dont even watch the video yet. i see them alot here and they are terrible. plus they brought many pilots to hospital already
Why is he pushing this garbage?!!!
ok i watch half video. and it only confirms what i know abiut this shitty thing. its extreme loud. looses half power when it gets hot and everytime we have a muppet fly this thing with us we get kicked out the place because its too loud. everybody hates it. for good reason. even you dont have money. DO NOT BUY THIS! its a total disaster. the amount of work you put into this you better off buy second hand and fix that.
First time seing your channel and I subscribed not just for the givaway but because its a sport that has always had me interested ever since I had a rc model of a paramotor in my late teens (awesome video and I look forward to more
Replace those fully threaded back to those shoulder bolts with a washer/spacer, the threaded bolts will fail way faster due to shear stress, crack propagation, and the moments created on start/stop, if you use it long enough the propeller can literally start coming undone, and with one bolt shear failure you'll have a pretty messy situation, not cause it stalls but because it could still run creating a twisting gyrating moment midair
Great video, thanks 👍
I recommend checking th balance of the prop. I have an rc plane with the same set up. Same nock off motor. No issues for me. 30 flights on it. But good prop balance and then use ducting aluminum tape to make a gasket. I went 2 layers on each pipe and mine have not leaked. Not a fan of silicone.
I don't have pipes like yours, but I ran with the stock down pipes and it was okay. I hydroformed a set of expansion chambers for mine and way better power, idle, thrtottle response.
I kinda agree.
Its a win as long as it work,. No expectations here, - If it run then its good
Hi, I would recommend checking out the Minimot paramotor if you want to check out more low profile motors it is very similar size to this just with swing arms and a nicer harness would love to see a full review of this!
Cool man, thanks for the entertainment!
ah I was wanting to see it fly. cant wait to see it.
Tucker and his friends are going to play “ Paramotor Roulette “ . LoL 😂
I would wear a flack jacket...just in case
Good luck! Bonne chance! Bueno suerte!
If you want to get the actual thrust output. Do the Hang Test at Full Power after Breakin. A little math, and the angle of the pendulum and weight of you and the motor should give a very accurate Thrust. As long as the pendulum angle wrt gravity is measured accurately.
Yes! Been waiting on this! It's a mini Fresh Breeze 😂
Tucker! Lol I wanted to see it in action I guess I'll have to wait till the next video I'm super excited to see how it flies
I love it. My dream would be to own one. I love everything aviation. Great content!
Very enjoy to watching your video thank you for sharing 👍👏👏
Great Hidden one liner in this episode!
13:28 puff puff pass, Tucker 😄😄
giving away this as a prize and saying so in the beginning makes me hope you fucking love it and it doesn't fall apart.
That exhaust is a riot!! Sounds like it's eardrum-melting, HAHAHA! No expansion chamber - zero engineering for a power curve. Can't wait to see you fly it! Seems like it just happens to have thrust at the RPM it's needed at, so I have no doubt it'll fly ... but whether it flys WELL remains to be seen! 😁👍🍻
Hey Tucker putting on some muscle!
I was keen to see you fly this thing, so keep checking back and no bud yet. Are you going to post a vid of you launching this one?
The shoulder on the prop bolts is there for a purpose. Threads all the way to the head is not a good idea in that application.
I would love to see one of these being put through some stress. Maybe you could do some tests on the ground on all the critical parts.
I am really curious to know how much weight the harness can take (testing the straps, buckles and carabiners). Also maybe a durability test on the motor. How prolonged usage affects it and what may fail first.
Would be great to know!
Regarding the battery you could use a Li Íon pack, 4S as well! With 18650 cells! They are safer and last longer!
Thank you for bringing back the Tyedye
Can't wait, I want to see this thing in action...
Nirvana paramotors (at least the newer ones) don't use a magneto for ignition, they use the battery. No problems getting multiple flights off of a charge.
Yay that looks so much fun wish I could fly like that
Good call on the carabiners.
Wow! Only Tucker could manage to make that pieca sh** come off as shineola! Great video, now I want one