That gamepad driver sounds like a real hotshot, I should challenge him and knock him down a peg. But I heard that he tragically died on one of the chicanes at the old Hockenheimring, taking it way too fast and kissing the wall at top speed. R.I.P. in peace, hotshot! You will be remembered! o7
After watching this video i bought the game because you convinced me, and i have honestly not had more fun playing a car or racing game/sim since i was 8 playing Gran Turismo 4. Even on controller i can play this for hours without getting bored
GTR2 isn't that remembered because rFactor exists, and the game can be easily confused by a rFactor mod, i made that mistake a lot of time ago when i was more younger XD.
Yeah I loved gtr2 when it came out. Was just very hard one of those racing games where going in a straight line was a mission . SIM based maybe wasn't for me at the Time . Just a shame they doing race room in the format they doing now and not releasing new games
The thing with Assetto Corsa is that it boomed with the Internet Generation and Modern TH-cam so people was able to get along and enjoy something in the modern day with a lot of recordings and saves online. GTR2 boomed BEFORE the Internet Generation of TH-cam, Leagues through Online Forums, Mods and Game Patches which are a bit of a pain for those who just want to do some quick racing and not having to prep something up for a little while before having to jump in a race. Plus, no more Matchmaking and that's an extra step to getting into online racing. Overall, the time of this game fell out of the modern era for it to get the recognition it deserves. rFactor 1 as well is going through its final days before falling into the same hole as GTR2. Dedicated Matchmaking has finally shut down after +18 Years and the main place for League Racing Results posting (LiveRacers) is shutting down, so that's another game that will eventually be forgotten or remembered by time.
I'd say yes and no: GTR2 certainly still was alive for the period of leagues through online forums, and it had a big modding community. (and the same can probably be said for even older games such as Gran prix legends) It didnt have enough official patches though, I'd grant you that :) If it would've had been supported better, perhaps it would've stayed even longer? It wasn't perhaps optimal for quick racing though, and it certainly had quite a few flaws, quirks and bugs.
I love AC but there is no such thing as a simulator with no damage. AC has almost zero damage. Even if u set mechanical damage at maximum there's barely any damage. AI opponents in AC don't have any. In GTR2 on the other hand both the AI opponents and you have very realistic damage if u set ur damage at maximum. Bottom line is Assetto Corsa needs a good damage mod.
GTR 2 was one of the earliest memories of playing a video game (alongside NFS:HP2) back when I was a lil shit, goated game and now that I got myself a T300RS I might give it a go again
N-GT is what became GT2 later on, G3 was a class specifically for cup cars like Porsche Cups and Ferrari Challenges, and stuff in that vein for Spa only, G2 was just kind of the catch all class for Spa for non homoligated stuff, there's a few funny things with GTR2 like the Gillet actually being a G2 car irl
i want to add: Its also very well playable with keyboard you can up to 103 opponents there are active communities nowadays with the newest GT3 and LMDH cars you have changable weather and daytime its very easy to modify ( with your own mods like changing drivers, championships, teams, liveries etc ) even for people without knowledge with that, thanks for the video I play it since release of GTR (1) and never want to miss it
@@owl-vibes i am not joking: TH-cam. GT-Italia or EEC are the most common. Trackaholics are also a possibility. but the most deep sht you will find through private people since NoGrip went down
I have my original copy of GTR2 on DVD. I bought it when I didn't even have a decent computer to run on. Even today, after 17 years, that game manages to make me smile, especially with the best mod of all time: Power & Glory. Greetings from Buenos Aires.
Just want to mention something that you forgot when talking about crew chief's patch for gtr2. It literally adds honest to god full VR compatibility with steamvr.
I learned about GTR2 because the game's OST composer Stephen Baysted also composed the OST for the Project Cars franchise and one of his songs "Spa 24hrs" features in all 4 games (GTR1&2, PC1&2). I found his songs in Project Cars' 2 OST first before finding his other songs in other titles like GTR.
The main drawbacks for GTR2 today are its graphics, it's basic FFB and some AI issues, especially in multiclass races. I bought it in 2007 after playing the shit out of a pirated copy. Did more than a few league races. Played a shit-ton on public servers we had way back (GamersCrib FTW) I still love it and play it every now and then. There are some brilliant mods for it. From the 90s BPR series to the GT1 seasons to the late 00s seasons. The classic 90s BTCC mod is fantastic too. The FFB to me is fine; its definitely not as nuanced and detailed as newer stuff but it translates what the cars are doing. There's some mods that improve the AI but its very track and car dependent. But its the graphics I just can't get through. It seems stupid really but it's DX9 is just a bit too old for me. Maybe I'm jaded from playing it for so long - being stuck with a shitty rig for years tends to do that.
If you look for only the high quality mods, graphics is not bad at all. I personally don't care too much about graphics but if you get the VirtuaLM tracks and Power and Glory mods for example it looks even better than vanilla. Aside from the first lap I think the AI is really good in GTR 2. It is just as good as modern sims imo and it very rarely wrecks you or dive bombs you. But yea graphics are a bit old and physics isn't as advanced as modern sims
Best game, when i was young i played this so so so much. The cars felt so good and amazing to drive, wish manny of the games nowdays were the same. have corsa and Autom2 to play and after the new patch Am2 is s´the most fun (tho on corsa i only dritfing :D) but i agree would be happy if they made a remake of gtr2 i would by it (again) :D
I picked up GTR2 about half a year ago (saw some vids recommending it and it's hella cheap on steam sales) I gotta say it's probably my favorite Sim now. I always loved how RaceRooom cars felt and now after playing GTR2 and Race07 (had to pick it up as well lol) SimBin titles make me the most immersed in their games. Also what made GTR2 stand out were the actual 24hour races you can do and the lack of UI in the game. Makes it really immersive.
When it came out, I had to buy GTR2. Having seen all of the cars in it in real life at 2003 24 hours of Spa, I couldn't believe they had every single car from every single team. I still remember them like it was yesterday. I was a happy kid when I played GTR2.
rFactor is still my favorite racing game, and is basically the same thing as GTR 2, same engine and physics and everything, just a few minor differences in that GTR 2 has rainy weather and sun flares, while rFactor has better support for all-wheel drive cars, and nfsu2-like car upgrades system
I mean, if you fix up the AI, there is something beautiful, magical about running a 24H race, be it Daytona, Le Mans, Spa, Zolder, Silverstone, etc. Fix up the AI, let me hand off control to the AI and save/load races as I please, and those are things that sell me on a game, support all the inputs. You got my money. Also GTR2 did not fall into the trap of modern sims of trying to be everything for everyone, it focused on two years of FIA GT, and the community did the rest. Man, Spa was a blast in the 24h even with broken AI. Spa in Race 07/Evo was also fun too, I dunno, Simbin nailed, and Blimey! nailed, the feel of Spa and a car on the track at speed. Plus, come on, GTR 1 and 2 got something not many sims today get. A demo. You had a demo for GTR1 and 2 that were here's a track, here's some cars, go have fun and see if you like it. And it had marketing, too. I remember my local games shop had floor to ceiling GTR2 display when it launched with a purple Maserati on the display flying down through what was supposed to be Eau Rouge., and ful on multi page reviews on PC gaming mags of the time, I'm talking full on PC Gamer/Zone/Format sort of mags and got praised for being great in those reviews. I mean, I want the next cult classic racing sim to have a a demo. I want it to have actual marketing behind it and have something great about it, not just oh here's GT3 cars, here's the Ring. Point is. GTR2 stood out in 2000s racing sims, because of how good it was. It did something different and did it well, it did one thing and one thing very well. Was it perfect?Nope. But, it was awesome.
My friend borrow me cd version of this game , it was his dad game. I played a few races on keyboard and totally forgot for 6 months. 2 days ago i borrow t150 sterring wheel from another friend and started racing. Btw 900 degrese works fine but i use it like 270.
I had this simulator but at the time I was too young and unequipped to fully appreciate it. But I remember one thing that no other game ever made me consider: Engine braking when shifting down with cars that had no auto-blipping. Monza, Maserati MC12. Downshift, 4th, 3rd, 2nd... 1st-aaaaaand car spins. Why? I was not locking the wheels while braking. Keep in mind at the time I had no internet at home either, so I couldn't even look by myself. But then, it hit me. "When I downshift to 1st, rear wheels are spinning... slower than the asphalt I'm running on!?" I was still not considering that it was directly related to engine RPM and torque braking, but there it was. A perfect practical example of what a hardcore simulator such as GTR2 can teach to someone that was 13 at the time.
I've been playing it since 2017 and I still love it. I keep using mods, play multiplayer with up to 3 friends and I am happy with it. One of the most friendly sim racing game for people that does not have a steering wheel. Once you resolve the first problems when you want to play it for the first time, the rest is just enjoy. Thanks for the video.
I'm still glad you indirectly introduced me to GTR2 trough your Discord events.Even tough i never participated on them ever again or don't play sim racers as often,i'm still glad i have this amazing game to come back to from time to time.Thanks Purple And yes i'm still on the server but i'm too lazy and ankward to interact socially
Didn't expect a 2nd vertigo fan to exist. 👀 At some point i should get a 1/43 version of it but that's not a priority right now. Great to see someone remembers that our small country made one of the racecars of all time! If you like the car this much, i do know the whereabouts of one of the drivers during it's lifetime, Bas Leinders! iirc, he works for some of the mclaren customer teams in GTWC europe (Optimum motorsport) and IMSA (inception racing) and often comes onto our F1 broadcast as an analisist. I also know someone who's a good friend of him, who also has possesion of Nelson Piquet JRs 2008 raceworn helmet, as well as funny and amazing stories of his (the friend) as a on-site vendor at some races. Bas has driven a lot of cool stuff over his career, usually in association with Marc VDS racing (merged into Boutsen VDS in GTWC europe today). Stuff like the AM Lola B09/60, Z4 GT3 and Matech Ford GT GT1 and tested with Minardi i think.
I love the Vertigo. There are two versions of the Vertigo. The Streiff powered by an Alfa Romeo V6 is the one that comes with the game. They also built the .5 Spirit powered by a Maserati/Ferrari V8, but that one didn't race, didn't come with the game and had no downloadable mod that I could find. The mod I did find was the Maserati GT, powered by a 4.2l V8. With some document editing I now had two versions of the racing Vertigo, the V6 Streiff and the V8 Spirit. GTR2 is such a great sim.
i absolutely love this game. back when i first discovered it in mid to late 2021 i fell in love with it. being someone who adored early 2000s gt racing this game was perfect and the fact it was quite moddable meant that most racing series i like could be played in this game.
My theory is that it's about the Game's name itself can be mixed up with so many things including the GTR 2 series, if Simbin decided to name it something unique like Assetto Corsa, Gran Turismo, or Giro Finale, it could have more popular
14:00 oh thats why its so shit i got assetto like 3 years ago and have tried to play it 4 times and given up every time because its dog shit didnt know that was because it was controller only gotten 3 hours over all that time
I've been playing GTR2 since pretty much the release of the game. I still have the original disks, although I use a no CD patch nowadays to spare my disks. But it's always been on my hard drive for as long as I can remember. It's a fantastic sim and it deserves every bit of praise it receives. More people should try it. And as you say despite it's dated graphics, it has moments when it looks, if not like a contemporary sims but one that's a few years behind. Well worth it. More people should experience this title, and if I may, also bring up SimBin's other masterpiece (in my opinion at least) Grand Prix legends. Although you can get that experience in GTR2 alone with the Power & Glory mod pack, for the most part at least. Great sim, great video. I'm happy to see that there are still people out there that care for this piece of gaming history. I know this comment's been all over the place, and might seem quite incoherent, but I tried.
I keep forgetting that GTR2 exists but yeah it's pretty good even if you don't know how to play sims, probably honestly an incredible jumping point if you're moving up from simcades.
I am regularly dreaming about creating a GT4-esque racing game, combining Gran Turismo style physics and career progression with a DTM/Toca/V8 Supercars Race Driver-esque story and memorable characters just like in NFS games of the mid-naughties. Sadly, as much as I know about Motorsports, Storytelling and Cinematography, the little I know about programming. So yeah. I'd gladly save the racing game genre. But nobody taught me how to code.
i played a load of race 07 back in the day, got me in to sim racing which eventually lead to me getting ac since it had a load of cars that i liked. I might re-install gtr2 once i get a new desk since it was also one of the games i played at that time. Speaking of going back, i recently started playing tokyo xtreme racer drift 2 and it's absolutely fantastic. Wish that there was a more modern version that made it easier to recommend to people rather than having to emulate it but it was certainly worth the effort to me.
If you're still running GTR2 then check out my channel for videos of my track builds. You can find download links for them in the track descriptions. I'm also working on four Championship mods one of which will be ready for release once all the tracks have been uploaded.
I also agree with modding, the only sim that competes with and honestly beats assetto corsa in modding is gtr2, but I grew up in the early 2000s going to mid ohio to watch alms so gtr2 mods are practically built for me, I will say I had a bit of trouble getting my wheel to cooperate with the game, but it only took one evening to get it all up an running, plus installing and testing a few mods
Honestly I can't Accept the controller roasting for Assetto Cosa. I never had problems with it nor did I need to play hundreds of hours to get used to it. After I adjusted the config to my liking it felt like the best racing game you can play on the controller. FH5 for example assists you way too much and the wheel speed isn't adjustable enough so it always feels like some cheap mobile racing game where you feel out of touch with the car itself.
GTR2 and Race07 was my entry to simracing, but nowadays every time that I return to GTR2 I feel alienated with the game, right from the get go with his complex and outdated menu. So most of the times I do a race and uninstall the game. Race07 holds better for me. PS: Try my controller settings for AC. Speed Sensitivity 80%, Steering Speed 10%, Gamma 1.5, Filter 0.6, Deadzone 0.03 (or w/e fits your controller). And for the Race settings: Stability Control 70 to 80%, TC and ABS on or off, is your choice. It fits for everything, racing, rallying or drifting, and I'm on par with my timings, compared with a wheel, or about 1 second slower.
GTR2 still a golden masterpiece for myself, much more better than Assetto Corsa. (Especially the modding community, there's no extra paying mods on GTR2 so I can play things like 90s Super Touring Cars stuff without paying extra fees like other nowdays Racing Sim.)
If you want it to look good and have an Nvidia card just run it with DSR at 2.2x resolution. Neverminded the HQ mods. They are good but DSR with the vanilla will looks better if your PC can support it.
GTL/GTR2 is proof racing games who does driving really well, is more important than graphics. if you play in 4K and the highest settings blabla in some new game.. but going over a curb is not satisfying, you wont play that game for very long. RBR is the same level of cult driving classic.
I started playing in 2005 on gtr and quickly went to gtr2… still racing in 2023 at “sim racing belgium” we do mainly ACC but have raceroom section for those who are interrested.
I love GTR2's immersion. Specially when running the Spa 24h, which is what this game was designed for in the first place, and 90% of the AI retire from the race.
I agree with what you say about older sims , I still have my original discs for games like GTR 2 , Grand Prix Legends , GT Legends and others . I've been playing GP Legends for over 20 years and unless my wife threatens divorce , I'll probably play it for another 20 years ! Like GTR 2 , the graphics aren't great , but the immersion and feel is what keeps me coming back . I feel that a lot of modern driving sims have sold there soul , concentrating on appearance , sacrificing driving feel for bling . As for your comments about GP Laps - Jake is the man ! Like you I highly recommend watching his channel , he has a real passion for what he does . I'm a huge fan . Thanks for the video , hope it helps to convince more people of the value of these older sims .
I learnt of gtr1 by martin haven talking about in the build up to the 2003 (ish) spa 24 hour. bought the game. My first sim, loved it, got inveested with mods. learnt of gtr2 that way. I;ve even made my own terrible mods for this game. there in on race department, lol.
i for one abandoned gtr2 after modders started gatekeeping the modern imsa/wec mods like they made these from scratch...then i realized playing AC is far better because what i was looking in a sim racing can be found in assetto corsa...the grandpas can keep hugging GTR2...
hello there, i want to ask you something. I just tried installing this game, a few days I played and adapted, everything went smoothly. but suddenly when I was playing, the speed, fuel, time and gear displays didn't appear on the wheel - cockpit cam, maybe you know the solution? I have enabled motec adl in settings
I find controller in AC easier than Controller on any other game. I just set it up as a wheel out of ignorance. I went back and tried using the inbuilt controller option but found it completely unusable (i steer with my right thumbstick and use the left for throttle/braking). But even if i didn't it still wasn't a good experience, so i went back to setting the controller up as a wheel. Also, don't use traction control as, on some cars, it adds seconds to your lap times.
I used to play this game on a controller back then when it came out on the DVD because I didn't have a wheel, and I'm genuinely curious how the game feels on a wheel I have to give it a shot again
i found out the name of this game after 12 years, yes u heard me, i used to play this game 24 7 at my grandmas place im so happy i finally found it thanks to this guy. =)
i play controler without basic adjustments i have to say , even tho i love AC , that i'd be glad to have a wheel to play it i have 300 hours of game on AC , all made with my good old gamepad 😅
Man, I loved this game so much, although I had no idea how to set up gear ratios and lost many races because of it. Best memory was getting fierce competition from a Ferrari 550 around Catalunya and noticing it started leaving a trail of black smoke. In a few laps it caught fire and pulled off track. Never seen anything close to it, besides in the original Grid when the AI drivers would lose their nerve and spin out/crash.
мне было 7 лет и у меня был лицензионный диск, было это аж 15 лет назад :( Я дпже представить нк мог в какой проект я тогда играл, а ведь я играл в неё как во flatout 2, потому любил и эту игру. У меня англиская версия и я ни чего не понимал, от того что я был мал, я не знал даже как поменять язык и тыкал везде xD, Уходило по 2 часа лишь бы запустить какую нибуть гонку
Next up: a 5 hour essay on "Volvo: The Game" and its' deep implications to our society's future.
had it from newspaper
absolute masterpiece
Seriously you should do a video on Richard burns rally, it's rally version of gtr2.
I would watch that
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Try out Race 07 or GTR Evolution (expansion pack), it's also develop by simbin but it's quite less interesting cars class compared to GTR 2
That gamepad driver sounds like a real hotshot, I should challenge him and knock him down a peg. But I heard that he tragically died on one of the chicanes at the old Hockenheimring, taking it way too fast and kissing the wall at top speed.
R.I.P. in peace, hotshot! You will be remembered! o7
The only modern sim that somewhat gives me gtr 2 feels rn is Automobilista 2, specially after the 1.5 update
Look back at the greatness which already exists.
Not forward to shallow promises.
After watching this video i bought the game because you convinced me, and i have honestly not had more fun playing a car or racing game/sim since i was 8 playing Gran Turismo 4. Even on controller i can play this for hours without getting bored
GTR2 isn't that remembered because rFactor exists, and the game can be easily confused by a rFactor mod, i made that mistake a lot of time ago when i was more younger XD.
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Yeah I loved gtr2 when it came out. Was just very hard one of those racing games where going in a straight line was a mission . SIM based maybe wasn't for me at the Time . Just a shame they doing race room in the format they doing now and not releasing new games
as a player of the first chapter: GTR , i agree on this video :D
Blud really started the video with "Hey there".
The best racing game 4ever...
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GTR2 4 EVA!
The thing with Assetto Corsa is that it boomed with the Internet Generation and Modern TH-cam so people was able to get along and enjoy something in the modern day with a lot of recordings and saves online.
GTR2 boomed BEFORE the Internet Generation of TH-cam, Leagues through Online Forums, Mods and Game Patches which are a bit of a pain for those who just want to do some quick racing and not having to prep something up for a little while before having to jump in a race. Plus, no more Matchmaking and that's an extra step to getting into online racing.
Overall, the time of this game fell out of the modern era for it to get the recognition it deserves. rFactor 1 as well is going through its final days before falling into the same hole as GTR2. Dedicated Matchmaking has finally shut down after +18 Years and the main place for League Racing Results posting (LiveRacers) is shutting down, so that's another game that will eventually be forgotten or remembered by time.
I'd say yes and no: GTR2 certainly still was alive for the period of leagues through online forums, and it had a big modding community. (and the same can probably be said for even older games such as Gran prix legends)
It didnt have enough official patches though, I'd grant you that :)
If it would've had been supported better, perhaps it would've stayed even longer?
It wasn't perhaps optimal for quick racing though, and it certainly had quite a few flaws, quirks and bugs.
It's dying online, but tons of people including me still have it on their hard drive with tons of mods.
It's not even remotely close to being dead.
I love AC but there is no such thing as a simulator with no damage.
AC has almost zero damage. Even if u set mechanical damage at maximum there's barely any damage.
AI opponents in AC don't have any.
In GTR2 on the other hand both the AI opponents and you have very realistic damage if u set ur damage at maximum.
Bottom line is Assetto Corsa needs a good damage mod.
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There is another game that gets lost... its called, GT Legends... was so good.
GTR 2 was one of the earliest memories of playing a video game (alongside NFS:HP2) back when I was a lil shit, goated game and now that I got myself a T300RS I might give it a go again
N-GT is what became GT2 later on, G3 was a class specifically for cup cars like Porsche Cups and Ferrari Challenges, and stuff in that vein for Spa only, G2 was just kind of the catch all class for Spa for non homoligated stuff, there's a few funny things with GTR2 like the Gillet actually being a G2 car irl
that helps a lot, I knew about the main classes but I didn't know anything about the g2 g3 classes
i want to add:
Its also very well playable with keyboard
you can up to 103 opponents
there are active communities nowadays with the newest GT3 and LMDH cars
you have changable weather and daytime
its very easy to modify ( with your own mods like changing drivers, championships, teams, liveries etc ) even for people without knowledge
with that, thanks for the video
I play it since release of GTR (1) and never want to miss it
Where would one go to obtain the GT3 and LMDH mods in question?
@@owl-vibes i am not joking: TH-cam. GT-Italia or EEC are the most common. Trackaholics are also a possibility. but the most deep sht you will find through private people since NoGrip went down
I have my original copy of GTR2 on DVD. I bought it when I didn't even have a decent computer to run on. Even today, after 17 years, that game manages to make me smile, especially with the best mod of all time: Power & Glory. Greetings from Buenos Aires.
Just want to mention something that you forgot when talking about crew chief's patch for gtr2. It literally adds honest to god full VR compatibility with steamvr.
it also adds OpenXR for headsets with 32bit OpenXR support, fixes bunch of bugs and adds new game features ;)
I learned about GTR2 because the game's OST composer Stephen Baysted also composed the OST for the Project Cars franchise and one of his songs "Spa 24hrs" features in all 4 games (GTR1&2, PC1&2). I found his songs in Project Cars' 2 OST first before finding his other songs in other titles like GTR.
The soundtrack in GTR2 is amazing. Yeah that makes sense, I was surprised to hear that soundtrack in PC2 tbh.
I´m 40 years old; brazillian racing fan and causal gamer; gtr2 is life; a great game; so underrated. Thanks for your video.
i maybe stupid but the graphics for gt2 hold up really well today imo, also pleas upload more touhou bro !!!!
don't ever put me in a situation.
I missed this mix of touhou music and passionate comment about car videogames, great video
The main drawbacks for GTR2 today are its graphics, it's basic FFB and some AI issues, especially in multiclass races. I bought it in 2007 after playing the shit out of a pirated copy. Did more than a few league races. Played a shit-ton on public servers we had way back (GamersCrib FTW)
I still love it and play it every now and then. There are some brilliant mods for it. From the 90s BPR series to the GT1 seasons to the late 00s seasons. The classic 90s BTCC mod is fantastic too. The FFB to me is fine; its definitely not as nuanced and detailed as newer stuff but it translates what the cars are doing. There's some mods that improve the AI but its very track and car dependent.
But its the graphics I just can't get through. It seems stupid really but it's DX9 is just a bit too old for me. Maybe I'm jaded from playing it for so long - being stuck with a shitty rig for years tends to do that.
for me it was the ffb, it was beyond awful on my t300rs even with fixes, i bet it would feel fine on an older logitech tho
@@tritekk I think there's some mods to improve the FFB for modern wheels but I've never felt I needed them with a g29
If you look for only the high quality mods, graphics is not bad at all. I personally don't care too much about graphics but if you get the VirtuaLM tracks and Power and Glory mods for example it looks even better than vanilla.
Aside from the first lap I think the AI is really good in GTR 2. It is just as good as modern sims imo and it very rarely wrecks you or dive bombs you. But yea graphics are a bit old and physics isn't as advanced as modern sims
Better have immersion than eyecandy rain droplets. But than again, everyone has it's tastes and priorities. Cheers
GTR2 and RBR are in there own league. 🍷
And it is one of the few games of this time with the Lister Storm! 😍
Best game, when i was young i played this so so so much. The cars felt so good and amazing to drive, wish manny of the games nowdays were the same. have corsa and Autom2 to play and after the new patch Am2 is s´the most fun (tho on corsa i only dritfing :D) but i agree would be happy if they made a remake of gtr2 i would by it (again) :D
I picked up GTR2 about half a year ago (saw some vids recommending it and it's hella cheap on steam sales)
I gotta say it's probably my favorite Sim now. I always loved how RaceRooom cars felt and now after playing GTR2 and Race07 (had to pick it up as well lol) SimBin titles make me the most immersed in their games.
Also what made GTR2 stand out were the actual 24hour races you can do and the lack of UI in the game. Makes it really immersive.
When it came out, I had to buy GTR2. Having seen all of the cars in it in real life at 2003 24 hours of Spa, I couldn't believe they had every single car from every single team. I still remember them like it was yesterday. I was a happy kid when I played GTR2.
rFactor is still my favorite racing game, and is basically the same thing as GTR 2, same engine and physics and everything, just a few minor differences in that GTR 2 has rainy weather and sun flares, while rFactor has better support for all-wheel drive cars, and nfsu2-like car upgrades system
G2 and G3 class are RACB (Royal Automobile Club de Belgique) regulation classes (for Belcar series or anything that is belgium national series)
I mean, if you fix up the AI, there is something beautiful, magical about running a 24H race, be it Daytona, Le Mans, Spa, Zolder, Silverstone, etc. Fix up the AI, let me hand off control to the AI and save/load races as I please, and those are things that sell me on a game, support all the inputs. You got my money.
Also GTR2 did not fall into the trap of modern sims of trying to be everything for everyone, it focused on two years of FIA GT, and the community did the rest.
Man, Spa was a blast in the 24h even with broken AI. Spa in Race 07/Evo was also fun too, I dunno, Simbin nailed, and Blimey! nailed, the feel of Spa and a car on the track at speed. Plus, come on, GTR 1 and 2 got something not many sims today get.
A demo. You had a demo for GTR1 and 2 that were here's a track, here's some cars, go have fun and see if you like it. And it had marketing, too. I remember my local games shop had floor to ceiling GTR2 display when it launched with a purple Maserati on the display flying down through what was supposed to be Eau Rouge., and ful on multi page reviews on PC gaming mags of the time, I'm talking full on PC Gamer/Zone/Format sort of mags and got praised for being great in those reviews. I mean, I want the next cult classic racing sim to have a a demo. I want it to have actual marketing behind it and have something great about it, not just oh here's GT3 cars, here's the Ring.
Point is. GTR2 stood out in 2000s racing sims, because of how good it was. It did something different and did it well, it did one thing and one thing very well. Was it perfect?Nope. But, it was awesome.
HOW DO PEOPLE PLAY IT WITH CONTROLLERS??? I'm literally playing it with mouse and keyboard lil
My friend borrow me cd version of this game , it was his dad game. I played a few races on keyboard and totally forgot for 6 months. 2 days ago i borrow t150 sterring wheel from another friend and started racing. Btw 900 degrese works fine but i use it like 270.
I had this simulator but at the time I was too young and unequipped to fully appreciate it. But I remember one thing that no other game ever made me consider: Engine braking when shifting down with cars that had no auto-blipping. Monza, Maserati MC12. Downshift, 4th, 3rd, 2nd... 1st-aaaaaand car spins. Why? I was not locking the wheels while braking. Keep in mind at the time I had no internet at home either, so I couldn't even look by myself. But then, it hit me. "When I downshift to 1st, rear wheels are spinning... slower than the asphalt I'm running on!?" I was still not considering that it was directly related to engine RPM and torque braking, but there it was. A perfect practical example of what a hardcore simulator such as GTR2 can teach to someone that was 13 at the time.
I've been playing it since 2017 and I still love it. I keep using mods, play multiplayer with up to 3 friends and I am happy with it. One of the most friendly sim racing game for people that does not have a steering wheel. Once you resolve the first problems when you want to play it for the first time, the rest is just enjoy.
Thanks for the video.
I have not played this game for, oohhh, about 45 minutes. I love GTR2.
6 mins in and i want the game. Frickin tvr 400r gaming, as well as the others i guess they are cool too
NO WAY ITS HIM
the rhythm heaven man
Now that i've finished watching, i may or may not get the game and maybe join you guys if that's ok
Come. Get Real.
@@indigo1771 i'll see, i've only got 9 gb of storage left (i can't really remove any of my games)
9:47 Oh dear ! That's the Sean Bull Livery skin I did for Racedepartment ! Thank you for showing it !
I'm still glad you indirectly introduced me to GTR2 trough your Discord events.Even tough i never participated on them ever again or don't play sim racers as often,i'm still glad i have this amazing game to come back to from time to time.Thanks Purple
And yes i'm still on the server but i'm too lazy and ankward to interact socially
after I install a mod, i can no longer start the game. What should i do?
Didn't expect a 2nd vertigo fan to exist. 👀
At some point i should get a 1/43 version of it but that's not a priority right now. Great to see someone remembers that our small country made one of the racecars of all time!
If you like the car this much, i do know the whereabouts of one of the drivers during it's lifetime, Bas Leinders! iirc, he works for some of the mclaren customer teams in GTWC europe (Optimum motorsport) and IMSA (inception racing) and often comes onto our F1 broadcast as an analisist. I also know someone who's a good friend of him, who also has possesion of Nelson Piquet JRs 2008 raceworn helmet, as well as funny and amazing stories of his (the friend) as a on-site vendor at some races.
Bas has driven a lot of cool stuff over his career, usually in association with Marc VDS racing (merged into Boutsen VDS in GTWC europe today). Stuff like the AM Lola B09/60, Z4 GT3 and Matech Ford GT GT1 and tested with Minardi i think.
I love the Vertigo. There are two versions of the Vertigo. The Streiff powered by an Alfa Romeo V6 is the one that comes with the game. They also built the .5 Spirit powered by a Maserati/Ferrari V8, but that one didn't race, didn't come with the game and had no downloadable mod that I could find. The mod I did find was the Maserati GT, powered by a 4.2l V8. With some document editing I now had two versions of the racing Vertigo, the V6 Streiff and the V8 Spirit. GTR2 is such a great sim.
Great car. I drove it a lot in GTR 2 back in the day and still enjoy taking it for a spin every now and then.
i absolutely love this game. back when i first discovered it in mid to late 2021 i fell in love with it. being someone who adored early 2000s gt racing this game was perfect and the fact it was quite moddable meant that most racing series i like could be played in this game.
My theory is that it's about the Game's name itself can be mixed up with so many things including the GTR 2 series, if Simbin decided to name it something unique like Assetto Corsa, Gran Turismo, or Giro Finale, it could have more popular
13:59 ah i see you've been traumatized by the Lotus Type 49 1966 Monza experience (flashbacks to "My first ever race in Assetto Corsa")
14:00 oh thats why its so shit
i got assetto like 3 years ago and have tried to play it 4 times and given up every time because its dog shit
didnt know that was because it was controller
only gotten 3 hours over all that time
im buying this game NOW
it looks incredible and im buying their other games lol
I've been playing GTR2 since pretty much the release of the game. I still have the original disks, although I use a no CD patch nowadays to spare my disks. But it's always been on my hard drive for as long as I can remember. It's a fantastic sim and it deserves every bit of praise it receives. More people should try it. And as you say despite it's dated graphics, it has moments when it looks, if not like a contemporary sims but one that's a few years behind. Well worth it. More people should experience this title, and if I may, also bring up SimBin's other masterpiece (in my opinion at least) Grand Prix legends. Although you can get that experience in GTR2 alone with the Power & Glory mod pack, for the most part at least. Great sim, great video. I'm happy to see that there are still people out there that care for this piece of gaming history. I know this comment's been all over the place, and might seem quite incoherent, but I tried.
I keep forgetting that GTR2 exists but yeah it's pretty good even if you don't know how to play sims, probably honestly an incredible jumping point if you're moving up from simcades.
I bought this on Steam but it doesn't work on Windows 11. When I launch it it just goes to graphics settings menu.
I remember being so proud about myself playing GTR2 with MoTec ADL, while my all friends was playing NFSand PES..
I was such a douchebag back then...
I am regularly dreaming about creating a GT4-esque racing game, combining Gran Turismo style physics and career progression with a DTM/Toca/V8 Supercars Race Driver-esque story and memorable characters just like in NFS games of the mid-naughties.
Sadly, as much as I know about Motorsports, Storytelling and Cinematography, the little I know about programming.
So yeah. I'd gladly save the racing game genre. But nobody taught me how to code.
i played a load of race 07 back in the day, got me in to sim racing which eventually lead to me getting ac since it had a load of cars that i liked. I might re-install gtr2 once i get a new desk since it was also one of the games i played at that time.
Speaking of going back, i recently started playing tokyo xtreme racer drift 2 and it's absolutely fantastic. Wish that there was a more modern version that made it easier to recommend to people rather than having to emulate it but it was certainly worth the effort to me.
If you're still running GTR2 then check out my channel for videos of my track builds. You can find download links for them in the track descriptions. I'm also working on four Championship mods one of which will be ready for release once all the tracks have been uploaded.
💯 on AC controller issue. I think I played GTR 2 like 10 years. best racing sim ever made in my opinion.
I also agree with modding, the only sim that competes with and honestly beats assetto corsa in modding is gtr2,
but I grew up in the early 2000s going to mid ohio to watch alms so gtr2 mods are practically built for me,
I will say I had a bit of trouble getting my wheel to cooperate with the game, but it only took one evening to get it all up an running, plus installing and testing a few mods
Honestly I can't Accept the controller roasting for Assetto Cosa. I never had problems with it nor did I need to play hundreds of hours to get used to it. After I adjusted the config to my liking it felt like the best racing game you can play on the controller. FH5 for example assists you way too much and the wheel speed isn't adjustable enough so it always feels like some cheap mobile racing game where you feel out of touch with the car itself.
I've been thinking about trying this game for a while now, and I guess now I will
GTR2 and Race07 was my entry to simracing, but nowadays every time that I return to GTR2 I feel alienated with the game, right from the get go with his complex and outdated menu. So most of the times I do a race and uninstall the game. Race07 holds better for me.
PS: Try my controller settings for AC.
Speed Sensitivity 80%, Steering Speed 10%, Gamma 1.5, Filter 0.6, Deadzone 0.03 (or w/e fits your controller). And for the Race settings: Stability Control 70 to 80%, TC and ABS on or off, is your choice. It fits for everything, racing, rallying or drifting, and I'm on par with my timings, compared with a wheel, or about 1 second slower.
GTR2 still a golden masterpiece for myself, much more better than Assetto Corsa.
(Especially the modding community, there's no extra paying mods on GTR2 so I can play things like 90s Super Touring Cars stuff without paying extra fees like other nowdays Racing Sim.)
Funi Forza Man returns to grace us with another essay esque video. \o/
I preffer recomend RACE07 and ALL its Expansions, just bcause it brings more content
If you want it to look good and have an Nvidia card just run it with DSR at 2.2x resolution. Neverminded the HQ mods. They are good but DSR with the vanilla will looks better if your PC can support it.
GTL/GTR2 is proof racing games who does driving really well, is more important than graphics. if you play in 4K and the highest settings blabla in some new game.. but going over a curb is not satisfying, you wont play that game for very long.
RBR is the same level of cult driving classic.
I started playing in 2005 on gtr and quickly went to gtr2… still racing in 2023 at “sim racing belgium” we do mainly ACC but have raceroom section for those who are interrested.
I love GTR2's immersion.
Specially when running the Spa 24h, which is what this game was designed for in the first place, and 90% of the AI retire from the race.
Very entertaining video! Been playing a lot of this lately, especially PnG3. Now to figure out what mods and tracks you were using in this video, lol
I agree with what you say about older sims , I still have my original discs for games like GTR 2 , Grand Prix Legends , GT Legends and others . I've been playing GP Legends for over 20 years and unless my wife threatens divorce , I'll probably play it for another 20 years ! Like GTR 2 , the graphics aren't great , but the immersion and feel is what keeps me coming back . I feel that a lot of modern driving sims have sold there soul , concentrating on appearance , sacrificing driving feel for bling . As for your comments about GP Laps - Jake is the man ! Like you I highly recommend watching his channel , he has a real passion for what he does . I'm a huge fan . Thanks for the video , hope it helps to convince more people of the value of these older sims .
I learnt of gtr1 by martin haven talking about in the build up to the 2003 (ish) spa 24 hour. bought the game. My first sim, loved it, got inveested with mods. learnt of gtr2 that way. I;ve even made my own terrible mods for this game. there in on race department, lol.
i for one abandoned gtr2 after modders started gatekeeping the modern imsa/wec mods like they made these from scratch...then i realized playing AC is far better because what i was looking in a sim racing can be found in assetto corsa...the grandpas can keep hugging GTR2...
Old and still Gold
hello there, i want to ask you something. I just tried installing this game, a few days I played and adapted, everything went smoothly. but suddenly when I was playing, the speed, fuel, time and gear displays didn't appear on the wheel - cockpit cam, maybe you know the solution? I have enabled motec adl in settings
Damn, I remember winning my first win at Monza with the 550 or 575M when I was like 12 with a Logitech GT wheel. Thanks for the memories bro!
I find controller in AC easier than Controller on any other game. I just set it up as a wheel out of ignorance. I went back and tried using the inbuilt controller option but found it completely unusable (i steer with my right thumbstick and use the left for throttle/braking). But even if i didn't it still wasn't a good experience, so i went back to setting the controller up as a wheel.
Also, don't use traction control as, on some cars, it adds seconds to your lap times.
I'm currently playing GTR 2 to pay a JGTC mod. Still playing it to this day.
Yep, I can confirm that playing with a controller on GTR 2 no problem.
I used to play this game on a controller back then when it came out on the DVD because I didn't have a wheel, and I'm genuinely curious how the game feels on a wheel I have to give it a shot again
hey good evening friends, I want to ask why GTR 2 won't run on my laptop even though my laptop meets all the specifications of the game
It's actually hardwired for 270 degree wheels. GT Legends was also a great game by SimBin.
thank you, thank you, thank you. this games deserves more than just fading into oblivion. still love to play GTR2 to this day.
i found out the name of this game after 12 years, yes u heard me, i used to play this game 24 7 at my grandmas place im so happy i finally found it thanks to this guy. =)
i play controler without basic adjustments
i have to say , even tho i love AC , that i'd be glad to have a wheel to play it
i have 300 hours of game on AC , all made with my good old gamepad 😅
Gt7 is good tho
i am a rock
GAY!!!!!!!!!
for me, GTR2 + HQ Anniversary Patch is like ancestor of ACC
Is GTR2 still playable online in 2024? If so, where and how?
what happened to GTR2? well we are still waiting for GTR3..... and waiting........ and waiting.
sound fun, looking for a sim other then assetto Corsa that i might enjoying i will put on my racing games bucket list.
purpleguy its been 4 weeks please make forza horizon 4 initial d except not really
I played gtr2 and rfactor 1 a lot when I was a kid with my older brother and his friends.
I played it for a while on keyboard lmao. got the nascar mod and cannonball mod and just driving around
This game holds up with physics and racing immersion pretty much to almost all modern sims.
For some reason, the quote of old games still being good still rings true for me to this day.
The return of the king
Man, I loved this game so much, although I had no idea how to set up gear ratios and lost many races because of it.
Best memory was getting fierce competition from a Ferrari 550 around Catalunya and noticing it started leaving a trail of black smoke. In a few laps it caught fire and pulled off track. Never seen anything close to it, besides in the original Grid when the AI drivers would lose their nerve and spin out/crash.
мне было 7 лет и у меня был лицензионный диск, было это аж 15 лет назад :(
Я дпже представить нк мог в какой проект я тогда играл, а ведь я играл в неё как во flatout 2, потому любил и эту игру. У меня англиская версия и я ни чего не понимал, от того что я был мал, я не знал даже как поменять язык и тыкал везде xD, Уходило по 2 часа лишь бы запустить какую нибуть гонку
Welcome back boss!
20:11 I swear, the choice of music here is not unplanned ❤