Risk of Rain 2 guides: when to stop stacking items
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- After seing tier list after tier list of these, I've noticed a distinct lack of help on knowing when enough is enough of a specific item. While the theoretical endless stacking of things is useful, variety is key and it's good to know when to pass on that tri-tip dagger in a multishop. So, here's my advice on when to say enough is enough for the items that don't just keep getting better!
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If you’re not buying shaped glass at every possible opportunity, are you even living?
Artifact of Command would like to talk with you.
No
No, I am not living with shaped glass.
In fact I am living because I have 1 shot protection and more than 1 hp
Any time I go more than 3 I get bodied.
I don't know if it did when this video was made but since shaped glass now removes one shot protection, if you take any you might as well just take as many as you can get since you'll likely get one shot from anything quickly into a run.
I would very much like to hear your reasoning for putting Crowbar into the "Just have one or two" category.
Clearly you've never played 50 Crowbar Stacked Loader.
Personally, I suck as loader, but I have seen some sick stuff with her. Mostly this list was based on my experience as huntress.
@@fearlessfalcon9485 Fair enough, everyone has preferences. Loader's movement is very different to other survivors so I can understand.
also never played 20 crowbar huntress.....just right click and bouncing death...
that and also with 100 syringes
infinite crowbar is great, just dont go searching for it since a lot of the time your procs will drain to 90% before you really get any hits
why stop at 5 magazines when if you stack 50 you can glide with the huntress the whole run
Thank you for this
Thank YOU for watching!
If you need any other kind of advice, I'm happy to try and help.
My rule is “if it increases the speed it takes the item lead.”
After playing with Command for awhile, going back to playing with random items is painfully slow.
Why limited crowbars? lmao, as bandit I can one shot everything when I have a whole lot of crowbars. and more Bepis (Energy drink) adds more speed.
i generally keep my predatory instincts equal to my soldier syringes. if you play a class like multi, huntress, commando, and mercenary you should have no trouble keeping that effect up really outside of just killing everything so fast that it disappears between spawns. the scythes however in my personal opinion should be capped at 10 no matter who you run.
I'm suprised you didn't talk about the Soldier's Syringe here, as I heard that, after a certain point, it actually stops buffing your main attack and makes it worthless. Varies on characters, however, so be aware!
It’s stacks so that in the beginning it boosts really well but then higher stacking doesn’t do as well
It's true. Attack speed reduces the per-frame attack animation, and with the game's built-in frame rate limit, attack speed can thus only go so far. For Huntress, it's around 195 syringes; for Commando, 60 syringes; for MUL-T, 30 syringes. One TH-camr ran the numbers.
This was really useful and informative, I’m very thankful for all of this and I will make sure to use this in future ror2 runs👍
with goat hooves NEVER go past 10 unless you want your utility to just throw you off the map.
learned that the hard way getting 15 stacks on merc
😂😂
When to stop? Dude never stop unless it’s an item that has a cap like glasses or tri tip
Unless you got a mod that benefits lens maker glasses. If you're curious I can share the mod
@@imabot6143 I am glad to inform you that I happen to be a console Andy. The Andys have nothing to lose but their chains and a world to gain. Console Andys rise up, defeat the filthy modding pc community and put the rate of production back in the hands of the programmers.
@@piktaminu3599 you do realize that these are mods that add to the game right? Such as mods that add characters from the first game
Wait glasses has a cap?... So last night when I had over 30 it was for nothing?
@@3abo0od96 it caps at 10 because glasses give 10% crit chance so anything over 100% or ten glasses does nothing
You sound like the younger version of the man who cried over Rise of Skywalker
Alright, I'll give you credit for that one, I don't often get roasted so well!
Never cried over friggin' star wars, though.
A MUL-T with 10 Lensmaker's Glasses and 20 Predatory Instincts just becomes an A-10 Warthog
How do I know this?
Experience
Add brilliant behemoth and milky chrysalis and you're now an apache
Add 10 soldier syringes
I needed this too, thanks bro
Can you explain further on how the Tri-tip dagger varies? you don't go into any detail as to why it varies or how it works. I play captain, and I don't know how many I should have. Also, the daggers got nerfed from 15-10 percent. Does that affect anything?
Tri-tip dagger varies because of a nifty thing called Proc coefficient. Every attack you do, from commando's basic blast to Acrid's leaping attack, has a proc coefficient. Let's say I have enough tri-tip daggers to have 50% bleed chance. (5 daggers.) That's only with a 1.0 proc coefficient attack like commando's basic shot. But on something like R.E.X.'s raipdfire nailgun, which only has a 0.4 proc coefficient, each nail from the nailgun would only have a 50% x 0.4 = 20% chance to bleed.
Regardless, having 100% chance on a 1.0 proc coefficient attack is usually sufficient, and after that yout time would really be better spent aquiring other items.
And yes, due to the recent update nerfing the daggers from 15 to 10% chance on hit (again, multiplied by the proc coefficient of the attack), the new number of when I'd suggest stopping is an even 10 daggers.
@@fearlessfalcon9485 Thank you!
you dare say i SHOULDN'T have 50 shaped glass!?
How dare thee!!
im new to the game so sorry if its obvious
but why would you stop pickign them up? i mean theres no loss to it
More so if you've got a choice like artifact of command runs
Also some of them specifically do have a negative effect or unexpected effect. Movement speed ones are a big one, clovers can crash the game, and personal shield generators and possibly some healing items can mess up a calculation the game does for "one shot protection"
Basically at full health the game won't normally let you be killed by one single hit of damage. Some items can mess that up and let you get one shot
@@johnmoshier3497 thats a strategy in it of itself
and whyd you make 3 separate comments
idont think you got what i was really asking
I don't know why I did separate comments lol my brain probably only processed bits at a time it's late here 😂 and my bad if I misunderstood what your question was. You don't refer to a specific item so thought you were asking why you'd stop picking any of them up? Some of them you blatantly don't want to keep grabbing after a certain point and are better off leaving
Yes i would love to have 12 jumps thank you very much. 😁
I find stacking Gasoline beyond 2-3 to be quite good, the range increase makes large crowds melt with ease
Thanks for the info. However, I do think that a survivor such as Rex, Loader, and heck, even Huntress can benefit from a 2x stack of Visions of Heresy.
Very useful video nice
Why does the game show that most things have a max stack cap between 4-20 if you can actually keep stacking them?
please explain what those last 5 stacks of monster tooth would do
for me the max stack where i stop getting crowbars is ∞
medkit has a hard limit of 40 as that is the point at which you get full aegis from 1 health
Thanks this helps alot
Me and my 172 stacks of bundle of fireworks demand you reconsider your incorrect opinion
If you use Rex because his proc is 0.5 some of the items like glasses would be double right? Because his 1 hit = 0.5 rather than 1
So it’s a 5% crit increase rather than 10%?
Again I’m not sure
I don't think so, it's a flat 10% No proc chance
actually, the convergence doesnt stop stacking at 3, it can go further. wanna say four or five, but i could be wrong
no it says in the item descripion caps at 3
Great video yo
Don't fuel cells have a hardlimit of 255, as you cannot hold more charges than that.
nah im going to proceed to have 240 crowbars you cant make me stop picking them up
Great video!
Keep it up! Just get something to tone down the echo in your room
stop stacking items? what a ridicules idea, the game isn't at its best until you litghtly tap "w" for a millisekund and go so fast you glitch though the terrain and teleport back to the beginning and this has to happen at least 3 times before you stop
*there is never enough crowbars*
railgunner plus like 20 crowbars is hella op
so you are wrong about focused convergence. the charge reduction has a cap, the size reduction however does not.
@@nobodycares6761 there is evidence that proves otherwise. Either way in terms of charge speed only 3 are effective while size continuously reduces for every stack.
Thank you this helps so much but can you give an updated version for the anniversary update it would help even more than you
I might, once I get the time. New job means lots of busywork.
INFINITE GASOLINE.
Imm a do a play through with all these items with these set limits
You stop at 3 wax quails?
To be completely honest, the speed boost while jumping with the wax quail is so disorienting for me that I don't like taking any at all.
They're annoying. Goat hooves + feathers do the same thing but with more control
@@backwardsbandit8094 but wax quails and jump legendary allow you to become a nuke
Add some red whips and you will be killing everything without using any skills/ attacks
crowbar is meta for railgunner xD
what about the teddy bear, tougher times?
17 is maximum
@@aidenyingling5715 Thank you my dude, you're the real MVP
So there is a attack speed cap, so you sholdnt go over 100 syringes without any other a.s. items
you only really need 5 syringes at most as the effect diminishes and you should have better attack speed items
@@DodgeThatAttack lol im just stacking like 50 syringes every game its so fun
ok some issues in your points to when to stop as some items max out with like tri-tip dagger at 10 others you need more but things like repulsion armor plate stacks up really well if you can get enough of them i have tested it and it is some ways better then stacking alot of armor items
i mean sure you can't lower it below 1 damage but once you get enough regen does that really matter?
Well, this was made before the latest update which changed tri-tip's percentage chance from 7 to 10%.
As for repulsion armor, once you hit the third or forth loop most enemies are making you ride the line of oneshot protection.
@@fearlessfalcon9485 ah ok i was not trying to be a know it all btw i know it could look that way is why i am mentioning
i was just pointing it out so people would know
and repulsion armor is almost op with command
I will stack fireworks as I damn well please! XD so what if I open up a chest and it spawns 180 fireworks and kills a boss xD
what do you mean my lunar coins are better used elsewhere with gesture of the drowned? have you tried infinite spinal tonic or filling the sky of a cloud of instakill rockets?
infinite tonic only needs 1 gesture and 3 fuel cells
My dude really just say don’t stack razor wire!? 🤦♂️
Great video! I'd love to see an updated version if anyone has a link.
Well, I was actually working on one to upload either this weekend or next week. The other option is a review video on Siralim ultimate, but if there's demand, I'll throw this together first!
what about the ukulele?
I'd argue that ukelele is good no matter how many stacks, thus why it's on this list. each stack increases the range and maximum enemies hit by the lightning.
I think this video is somewhat wrong. Percentage doesn’t count like this.
Which percentage? I planned on making an update video for the current version, so if I could fix it that'd be awesome.
@@fearlessfalcon9485 well, the percentages don’t work like A+B. I don’t remember exactly, but I will search now.
@@fearlessfalcon9485 yes, some items have linear and exponential stacking. You counted them all linearly, which is not right.
For example, some items like Tougher times are counted with special formula.
y = 1-1 / (0.15x+1)
@@user-be4ic1ls2t Ah. I am aware of that, and it has been a while, but if I recall, I made this list as when it's a good idea to stop. For tougher times's diminishing returns, imo it's not worth stacking more than 5-10, regardless of if it continues to inch the success chance upwards.
I'll have to make that more clear next time, I suppose.
@@fearlessfalcon9485 yea. Thanks for noticing and paying attention.
Never
Not bad
Dude your headsets $20 on Amazon
it worked at the time, now I'm rocking a better one that's like 150$. but does the cost really matter? I wasn't even using the headset mic for the recording.
but what about tougher times
It starts to fall off a bit. Best value around 10 you've got a 60% chance of not getting hit
But if you're not on a command run just keep snagging them for sure
@@johnmoshier3497 so near immortality
Unless you have my luck yeah it's pretty damn good lol