Bach - Prelude and fugue in E minor BWV 533 - Schouten | Netherlands Bach Society

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  • This Prelude and fugue in E minor, performed by Dorien Schouten for All of Bach, originates from the time when Bach was still in his twenties. He had just got his first real job in Arnstadt. This position as a highly paid organist had fallen into his lap in 1703, after a brilliant performance when testing the new organ. But a couple of years later, it was actually criticism of his organ playing that was given as one of the reasons for letting him go. He was supposedly played too many strange notes and variations in his chorale preludes. The church council believed that this confused the congregation.
    Recorded for the project All of Bach on June 23rd 2013 at the Bovenkerk, Kampen. If you want to help us complete All of Bach, please subscribe to our channel bit.ly/2vhCeFB and consider donating bit.ly/2uZuMj5.
    For the interview with organist Dorien Schouten on the Prelude and fugue in E minor go to • Schouten on Bach Prelu...
    For more information on BWV 533 and this production go to allofbach.com/en/bwv/bwv-533/
    All of Bach is a project of the Netherlands Bach Society / Nederlandse Bachvereniging, offering high-quality film recordings of the works by Johann Sebastian Bach, performed by the Netherlands Bach Society and its guest musicians. Visit our free online treasury for more videos and background material allofbach.com/en/. For concert dates and further information go to www.bachvereniging.nl/nederla....
    Dorien Schouten, organist
    Organ: Reil choir organ
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  • @marekjedrzejczak7913
    @marekjedrzejczak7913 4 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    1. 00:07 Prelude
    2. 02:15 Fugue

    • @BillofWatkinsville
      @BillofWatkinsville 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Excellent registration for Bach: clean and uncluttered. But, tempo for the first half is too quick for the acoustics. The flourishes become muddied; they are not clean.

    • @lessismore4470
      @lessismore4470 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dzięki.

    • @nswerhun
      @nswerhun 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      dziękuję

    • @Asiek
      @Asiek 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      dzięki

    • @HyShroomOfficial
      @HyShroomOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BillofWatkinsville Why did you comment this under the time stamp??

  • @vanya7534
    @vanya7534 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    This kind of music is written to be preserved in the cultural memory of mankind til it ceases to exist.

    • @daniel3231995
      @daniel3231995 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Imagine kicking bach out of his job cause he confused the flock with his genius

    • @musael22
      @musael22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nothing last for ever. That's a rule of God.

    • @francoisplaniol1489
      @francoisplaniol1489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@musael22 of course not, before it was composed it was not existing.

  • @alexandrestarinsky1055
    @alexandrestarinsky1055 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    The Prelude is a hommage to Buxtehude, I suppose, while the Fugue sounds so french, with this subject reminding of a gavotte. What a beautiful and moving composition altogether. God bless Bach and the many generations of organists still capable to reproduce his works.

  • @DrEstell
    @DrEstell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Definitely the best recording of BWV 533 I’ve ever heard - excellent combination of organ and organist, proclaiming the greatness of Bach!

    • @GZ9090
      @GZ9090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Micheal Murray's recording of it on the organ of St John the Divine in New York is also worth a listen.

    • @oblo7389
      @oblo7389 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I also suggest chapuis’ recording: great and unusual registration

    • @sergiocattapan1192
      @sergiocattapan1192 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ricordo quella del dott. Sweitzer, monumentale e profonda nella sua lentezza...

    • @video_camera
      @video_camera ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oblo7389Chapuis' is amazing

  • @hiberniancaveman8970
    @hiberniancaveman8970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This video is a must-play-again. And again. And again . . .

  • @jareid
    @jareid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Very impressed! Not heard very often! Thank you!

  • @MrUseur
    @MrUseur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It's a "BACH" sound organ. Straight and honest. You can't hear that kind of quality on a Cavaille Colle organ. Frau Schouten hat wunderbar gespielt. Danke dafür.

    • @MrUseur
      @MrUseur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @John Smith I disagree.

    • @davidecymba
      @davidecymba 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @John Smith french organs are just different, not better. you may prefer this or that kind of sound but is your personal opinion not a matter of quality.

    • @davidecymba
      @davidecymba 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @John Smith ok. if you make a matter of quality of the sound let's compare this to real german organs, of which is of course a copy. but otherwise you compare german sound with french sound. even if we take the mighty silbermann, or schnitger and compare it to isnard or cliquot they are the best of their areas, they definitely sound different but beautiful in a different way.
      anyway the quality of an organ can be felt only when you hear it live

    • @davidecymba
      @davidecymba 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @John Smith i insist. that is your PERSONAL opinion. i played the isnard of st maximin, and the muller of oude kerk amsterdam surely the best historical organs i ever played. which one is better? no one. they have nothing in common except the fact they have keyboards and pipes. both so different, both so beautiful.
      that is also an interesting about the pipe organ: every one is unique

    • @davidecymba
      @davidecymba 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @John Smith that is the point. how you would compare picaso with monet, caravaggio or chagall? so different, so beautiful. let's compare stradivarius with guarnieri not just "common one".
      you can't simply say that schnitger, muller, silbermann are "common one". were bach, haendel, mozart stupid to appreciate those organs? maybe they didn't have good ears

  • @normalundberg6848
    @normalundberg6848 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Wondrous! for the power of the music and also the glorious structure of the instrument giving life to Bach’s creative power. I never fully appreciated organ music until hearing Bach performed on it.

  • @bobh5087
    @bobh5087 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Beautifully played on a wonderful instrument. Many thanks. 👍 ❤️

  • @murraybriceland1275
    @murraybriceland1275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Every time you share your playing the world is just a little better place to live! Thank you.

  • @spiritussanctusband
    @spiritussanctusband 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Prelude sounds like Buxtehude. Nice piece and one of the easiest Prelude and Fugues of Bach`s.

  • @hanjoelzenga8784
    @hanjoelzenga8784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Een feest!! Mooi spel, mooie opname en juweel van een een kerk en een orgel.
    Kampen mag trots zijn.

  • @sospiroso
    @sospiroso 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow you know how to play Bach Dorien! .........I loved your Bach Trio in D minor BWV 583 interpretation too plus the descriptions and registration tutorial. Fantastic and authentic!

  • @domila5316
    @domila5316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Perfect tempo! One of my favorite recordings.

  • @Chrismacleod777
    @Chrismacleod777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Beautiful music beautifully played! Bach’s music is unbelievable! 😀

  • @untersatz32
    @untersatz32 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The best recording I have heard so far of this piece.
    Fantastic baroque sounding instrument and fantastic playing! Thank you!

  • @SDGRTX1455
    @SDGRTX1455 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Netherlands has the best organ players, no doubt and very proud of it

  • @thenomad4606
    @thenomad4606 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Listening to this for the first time.
    Amazing!

  • @notaire2
    @notaire2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Klare und wunderschöne Aufführung dieses kompakten und perfekt komponierten Meisterwerks im inspirierenden Tempo mit durchsichtigen doch gut phrasierten Tönen der ausgezeichneten Orgel. Geniale Organistin!

  • @nelsonwhaley6348
    @nelsonwhaley6348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is extremely good playing...vibrant, free flowing and great interpretation of what could be a turgid piece of Bach. This group has some surprisingly excellent performers, male and female.

  • @bishoyatanagho1350
    @bishoyatanagho1350 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just wonderful ❤️

  • @davidriggenbach6672
    @davidriggenbach6672 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish I live the day I see a great produced movie of J.S.Bach and this should absolutely be in it:
    He had just got his first real job in Arnstadt. This position as a highly paid organist had fallen into his lap in 1703, after a brilliant performance when testing the new organ. But a couple of years later, it was actually criticism of his organ playing that was given as one of the reasons for letting him go. He was supposedly played too many strange notes and variations in his chorale preludes. The church council believed that this confused the congregation.
    It would be very amusing to see the congregation struggling to cope with Bach's modern harmony

  • @filipK14357
    @filipK14357 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I cant understad how this channel have so little views! You videos is so amazing!

  • @aviv501
    @aviv501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is the best performance I've heard (and to my opinion this is the best melody of Bach). Thank you.

  • @andre26071955
    @andre26071955 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Uitstekend gespeeld, Dorien!

  • @MitchBoucherComposer
    @MitchBoucherComposer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    An interesting option to end the fugue in minor as opposed to major! I like it.

  • @martijnvreeling7531
    @martijnvreeling7531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wat mooi. Fantastisch! 😃

  • @cyprianharlond5672
    @cyprianharlond5672 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic piece and version

  • @magnusleite
    @magnusleite 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bravo! Thank you!

  • @karstenbiastoch2606
    @karstenbiastoch2606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice, a dream of harmony and peace 🌺🎶...Bach

  • @SebastianSchleussner
    @SebastianSchleussner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Still in his twenties" is an understatement. When Bach came to Arnstadt in 1703, surely he was only 19?

    • @olivleonardo
      @olivleonardo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@o.s.h.4613 He was born in 21st March 1685, in 1703 he would be 18!

  • @sergiusvitus7512
    @sergiusvitus7512 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this very fine and expressive play, it is so clearly and so intense!
    I have a scores variant of this BWV 533, where the fugue ends in E-Dur.

  • @alejandromosquerasouto6614
    @alejandromosquerasouto6614 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gran interpretación de esta increíble pieza de el Maestro de la música.

  • @piotrnycz-wasilec6628
    @piotrnycz-wasilec6628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gut gespielt!👍

  • @hanbeverdam9219
    @hanbeverdam9219 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mooie uitvoering met een goede techniek!

  • @trade7775
    @trade7775 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Piet Kee performance on the superb Hagerbeer/Schnitger organ at Alkmaar is the gold standard.

  • @annamilluzzo8077
    @annamilluzzo8077 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    GRANDIOSA DORIEN ( grazie from Italia)

  • @robertmartin8626
    @robertmartin8626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This Masterpiece is , Marvelous makes one think where mankind is heading.

  • @HarpsichordVinylGallery
    @HarpsichordVinylGallery 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fantastico!

  • @sigurdm
    @sigurdm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Prachtig !!! 😍😍😍👏👏👏💐

  • @cillyede
    @cillyede 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sehr schön, danke.

  • @lgmr2493
    @lgmr2493 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful !

  • @GerardvanR
    @GerardvanR 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lekker van dichtbij opgenomen. Daardoor is alles goed te volgen. Op 20 m. afstand klinkt ditzelfde stuk in deze kerk als een brij vanwege de galm van 7 seconden. Overigens heel mooi gespeeld!

  • @piora2906
    @piora2906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bravo, played so musically!!

  • @samshearman5251
    @samshearman5251 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another of beach’s beauties!

  • @Mike-cp1tj
    @Mike-cp1tj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    wish to hear Dorien play Dorian toccata one day :D

    • @samrose565
      @samrose565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was thinking the same thing!

  • @jond2728
    @jond2728 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Does Dorien choose the pieces she wishes to perform?
    Her performances are magnificent.
    I had a cat named Dorian, Black, and White, scaled to size.
    ~That is none but a coincidence. But how can you miss the name?
    These videos are great, and I also really appreciate it when we are given an interview with the performer after.
    It really helps to bring things full circle. Great stuff!

    • @bach
      @bach  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, Dorien chose her own pieces.

  • @stefanbalcerak
    @stefanbalcerak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you.

  • @robcamfield
    @robcamfield ปีที่แล้ว

    A masterclass!

  • @katbullar
    @katbullar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    jaw dropping interpretation.

  • @schmuelschperling1459
    @schmuelschperling1459 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There are so many harmonic fluctuations, it's almost modal. This prelude and fugue is kind of unique.

    • @lukejamison4870
      @lukejamison4870 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hormonal?

    • @schmuelschperling1459
      @schmuelschperling1459 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lukejamison4870 guess I was thinking of something else:)

    • @lukejamison4870
      @lukejamison4870 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Schmuel Schperling ah yeah of course. We understand each other now, we are in hormoney

    • @schmuelschperling1459
      @schmuelschperling1459 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lukejamison4870 lol

  • @VincentdeRidder
    @VincentdeRidder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Prachtig !

  • @SimoneSpadapianista
    @SimoneSpadapianista 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Meraviglioso!

  • @preussenberlin7461
    @preussenberlin7461 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wunderbar ! Zwei Engel am Spieltisch ...

  • @charlottewhyte9804
    @charlottewhyte9804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    unusually expressive ,different from what is heard mostly

  • @unagondolaunremo
    @unagondolaunremo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    bravissima!

  • @t11a11r11o
    @t11a11r11o ปีที่แล้ว

    Tu organy jest tajemnicy. Jesteś grać organy o piękny❤
    🎉🎉🎉

  • @francoisplaniol1489
    @francoisplaniol1489 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderfully Bach

  • @omnipotato4134
    @omnipotato4134 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love bach♥️❤️

  • @albertsiltal2600
    @albertsiltal2600 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buena digitación. 👍

  • @samshearman5251
    @samshearman5251 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Praise God!

  • @dariogiorgiutti9418
    @dariogiorgiutti9418 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really a great organ!! I prefer Alain's reading, despite the phrasing of this fugue is perfect.

  • @andreypilot
    @andreypilot 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    И руками, и ногами. Как же сложно этому научиться! Надо быть виртуозом

  • @Aalii6
    @Aalii6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sounds great

  • @silviosaditesche1556
    @silviosaditesche1556 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haarstreubend, denn ich meine den grossen Kantor Richter zu hören. Deo gratias fūr diese Künstlerin!

  • @bargledargle7941
    @bargledargle7941 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful fugue at 2:15

  • @michaelhewitt258
    @michaelhewitt258 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Het pedal is very very exciting to watch
    Her feet, dance across the pedals
    Beautiful

  • @klhx
    @klhx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there no tierce di picardi in this piece, so it doesn't end on the tonic major?

    • @bach
      @bach  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In the later version Bach ended in the tonic major, but in the earlier version he ended in minor

  • @toco7439
    @toco7439 ปีที่แล้ว

    totalni krasa

  • @albertsiltal2600
    @albertsiltal2600 ปีที่แล้ว

    Solo dos notas te lo dirán todo de mí:
    Diós te quiere.
    Yo(Él) te quiero.

  • @big_numbers
    @big_numbers 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    R1 reference

    • @mo2cubing
      @mo2cubing 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes
      I love the 9 minute organ drone

    • @splashykoy11
      @splashykoy11 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Which part was sampled

  • @hodsi
    @hodsi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    😉👍

  • @wouterattheorgan
    @wouterattheorgan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ik speel vaak dit stuk in de kerk waar ik speel, ik moet zeggen het einde doe ik altijd vol orgel. vind ik zelf erg passend

  • @preussenberlin7461
    @preussenberlin7461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Emanze - zucker-Girl

  • @giuseppemanfredi5204
    @giuseppemanfredi5204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Per me troppo veloce.

  • @tdgtwo850
    @tdgtwo850 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We all came for EATEOT

  • @lulublasz
    @lulublasz ปีที่แล้ว

    She turns only one with the organ, as well as Doeselaar S2

  • @silviosaditesche1556
    @silviosaditesche1556 ปีที่แล้ว

    Frau Schouten, verzeiht, übertrifft K.Richter!

  • @keplergso8369
    @keplergso8369 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good technically, but too much rubato for my taste... And why the same registration between tne prelude and the Fugue ? A bit boring. And take care of the tempo !

  • @maxcohen13
    @maxcohen13 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tempo!! It's a prelude, not a toccata.