Why Didn't They Use Liquid Luck in the Battle of Hogwarts? - Harry Potter Theory
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- Welcome to Harry Potter Theory. Today, we’re discussing the Deathly Hallows, the Battle of Hogwarts, Potion-making, Horace Slughorn and a little potion by the name of Felix Felicis- Liquid Luck. More specifically- I’m going to be addressing the question: Why wasn’t Liquid Luck used more? Why wasn’t it utilized during the Battle of Hogwarts? If you’ve always wondered this as well, then sit back, relax and enjoy.
We first see Liquid Luck in the Half-Blood Prince, after Dumbledore has convinced Professor Horace Slughorn to return to Hogwarts and teach potions. In this same school year, Harry paid extra close attention in his class- hoping to be ‘selected’ by Slughorn in order to obtain information about Tom Riddle and horcruxes. Part of this ‘selection’, however, involved Harry’s use of a certain potions textbook- one belonging to a ‘Half-Blood Prince’. The textbook allowed Harry to breeze through Slughorn’s potions lessons with ease- providing him with all sorts of shortcuts to a perfect brew.
In one such lesson, Felix Felicis- or Liquid Luck, is introduced to us- a potion, that, in essence, enables the consumer to become successful in all of their endeavours. Felix Felicis, is in my opinion the most powerful potion of all, because it’s possibilities are seemingly limitless. Whatever you try to use it for, you will be successful at, which means that with it you should be able to achieve almost..well, anything. The potion was first created in the 16th century by a potioneer by the name of Zygmunt Bridge, who dubbed it the ‘crowning achievement of his career’.
"Mine own invention, my masterpiece; the crowning achievement of my career. Bottled good fortune. Brewed correctly the drinker of this potion will be lucky in all their endeavours, but be warned ... excessive consumption is highly toxic and can cause extreme recklessness. Fans of Quidditch were quick to protest that a potion which gives the drinker good luck was hardly fair and use of my potion was banned, quite rightly, from all competitive events ... except potion-making tournaments."
And here Harry was, in Slughorn’s class, with a vial of this potion right in front of him. A vial that looked like ‘molten gold’ with ‘large drops leaping like goldfish from its surface, never spilling’. The only thing that Harry needed to do to obtain this vial of Liquid Luck, was be the first to successfully brew a Draught of Living Death- which of course, Harry did, thanks to Snape’s textbook.
Later in the same book/film, we see Harry finally use the vial that he won, a vial that would have given him about 12 hours of luck.
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Hey everyone, thanks for watching! I'm going to start putting out longer format content with a lot more detail, just a little less often. On a side note: how did you like the new music used in this video?
The music is great. Thanks for the great content.
Great idea and the music is good too ! I wanna know why it takes so long to brew certain potions. Idk if you have a video on that but it might be interesting. Also wondering why snape threw his book in a closet when there was like priceless info in there lol 😂
Aww the music is really pretty 💕 it's a soothing background music 😊 So excited for the longer videos!
Sounds awesome to me. As someone who has seen the movies countless times, and read all the books even more times than watching the movies, lol. I am nowhere near the level of knowledge and researching that you and your channel mate has done, but, hey, still love HP no matter when no matter where!
sounds great just keep the intro music please 😁 video format seems great too i hope you’re all good HPT❤️
If liquid luck is banned in Quidditch- would that ban even be efective? Wouldn't liquid luck provide you with enough luck to avoid detection?
Well not when it runs out.
Keep in mind that IRL Athleats have had their awards retroactivly taken away from them and their carriers ruined over performance enhancement scandels. Quidditch would almost certainly be the same way.
Something tells me that liquid luck might have a drawback in that just like real life performance enhancement drugs, once you take it you have to keep taking it in order to maintain your streak of good luck, sort of like how anyone drinks the elixir of life becomes completely dependent on it to stay immortal, except liquid luck has a very limited supply and cannot be produced so easily. I presume once you run out you might start suffering from a sort of "luck withdrawal" and won't be able to succeed at what you were good at before even if you still have the skills or talents.
When you come down from the liquid luck, you'll get hit with a major downer.
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@@kaimagnus5760 - yeah but first they need to prove that you've used it in the past. There are many differences when compared to muggle sports. First is that luquid luck can be used for other purposes than enhancing athletic performance, so proving that you had access to liquid luck isn't anywhere near as strong of a proof as proving that you had access to performance-enhancing drugs that don't have any other purpose than enhancing athletic performance. Also there are many ways a witch or wizard could obtain liquid luck without anyone else knowing while muggle athletes are completely reliant on people with relevant know-how and that's how many doping scandals have unfolded- by catching doctors who distributed those drugs. There are also many athletes who avoid getting caught for years and if you think about how much more difficult liquid luck would be to detect, then I don't know how they're ever going to catch most of the cheaters.
I don't know if it's even possible to prove that you've used liquid luck once the effects wear off (assuming you obtained your potion in a safe way and taken it without witnesses). I don't know if it's even possible to detect at all, because even if there are detection methods, liquid luck should ensure you get to somehow avoid detection if your success depends on it, otherwise it doesn't do what it promises.
Harry drinks Liquid luck, finds all the horcrux's are luckily all placed in one location and Harry runs them all through with the sword of Griffindor wich he luckily finds at bills house
Finds it in the lake but yes! Good point!
That wouldn't work, The sword of Gryffindor can only be obtained in brave circunstances not by mere luck and liquid luck only works on the drinker by making him/her "luckier" but it doesn't affect other by making then unlucky. So it wouldn't work at all, or at the very best it could help to "choose a path" to find the horrocruxes
@@lsmedel00 if he were lucky I’m sure the sword would…
Harry is already brave. When presented with any test of bravery he will do it. Especially if hes hanging out with Felix that day. I think that he would luckily find all remaining horcruxes in the infiri cave, in the boat that is in the middle of the lake still( Voldy doesnt need the boat anymore, he can fly). He dives in, because Felix told him to. Voldy teles to the island, harry makes it to the boat despite infiri, and voldy avkills him. He comes back. With sword in hand. Rises from the boat at glares at Riddle as he stabs them one by one. Riddle tries to save the last one by Disarming the sword, Protego, stab the last, throw the sword, Wingardium Leviosa to steer the sword through Riddles heart.
QED
^thats instead of getting slughorn's memory. If dumbledore had been honest with harry sooner. Maybe gotten Hermione knowledge about all the magical aspects of Voldys immortality he knew for sure and made sure Hermione heard about horcruxes in year 1.
Step1: drink a few hours worth of the luck potion
Step2: step out to create an improved,easier and sure-shot way of creating the same potion, without the disadvantages of the original one
Step3: record the said process.
Step4: repeat steps 1-3 till the best version is created
Step5: ...profit?
An infinite loop of luck. In the end one drop of the elixir allows you to be god for and hour
problem is, felix is somewhat controlling the actions of the person, so if it is not the correct moment to be lucky in potion creating, so that may break the loop xD
I see someone knows the restoration loop
Nope. A few hour's worth is overdosing. So it would only work against you.
You'd wind up doing something incredibly reckless.
Like smearing your entire nude body in honey+ bacon grease, then slapping a starving Grizzly to get a million views on youtube.
Thats exactly what i did with a certain potion in Skyrim. Focused on Potions and became so Op that i could go Afk while a Dragon attacked.
One of the major flaws with the Harry Potter series are these bizarre OP things Rowling makes without thinking about long term consequences or plot holes they create. The time turner being another fantastic example.
that’s exactly why in the 5th book every time turner got destroyed in the final battle
Yes and no. Yes, if you ignore the subtle warnings given; no, if you accept the warnings and understand why using X or Y in critical situations would be a bad idea.
The Time Turners - they operate on the principle that you cannot have a grandfather paradox. If one were to use it to go back and kill Voldy five minutes after his birth, then you'd never have a reason to go back to kill him. So you wouldn't. But then he'd be there, and you'd go back to kill him, thus repeating the cycle - you end yourself, remove yourself from time, changing nothing. When Harry and Hermione used it to save Sirius and Buckbeak we saw from the "repeated time" how they had already been effected the first time around. Harry realising X or Y that he now did was the original cause behind the effect he'd seen before. In short, they changed nothing as they used it correctly. There is no way to do so to "easily" undo a Dark Witch or Wizard's effect on the world without removing the very reason you'd go back to undo it in the first place.
This vid gives ample reason for why Liquid Luck isn't used so no point repeating it.
I don't know what else you'd consider OP bar these two things.
@Ilúvatar but they did change something. Serius and harry would have died if harry wasn't there, the Harmonie saved them by howling, she can go to multi classes, and so on. It was such a bad plot point that it had to be removed by destroying them all because it caused more problems. It's a known fact that she goofed with the turner.
@@JesusPerez-yc6yu They had already lived it, just in the effect, not the cause. They didn't actually add anything NEW into the timeline they'd already lived. That's "time travel" done right. Everything they did when they went back had already happened for them, just now they were the cause where before they experienced the effect.
Sorry if I wasn't clear first time around.
Point still stands. Time Travel can be interesting in stories, but only when it's done right. If it has rules (Hard Magic System) then you're gold. Harry Potter is an interesting mix of both Hard and Soft magic systems. When something could be OP (or game-breaking, if you will) JK made Hard rules for it. If not, then Soft rules.
@@ThePenguinMan but the ones before the books even begin should have ended Voldemort.
Slughorn does, at least in the movie. You see him sipping something in the background as they exit the castle
I had the same theory! :D Slughorn is MVP of the Hogwarts battle :p
@FourthTundra683 its an obvious nod to felix felecis though
yeah just wrote the same comment
@@JW-mi3hg it’s really not that obvious though is it? just cause a guy drank something doesn’t mean it’s a nod to liquid luck. People kinda have to drink regularly to live.
@@Delete240 positioned behind the group, out of a small flask, 30 seconds before a life or death battle?
Not to mention you have successfully brewed and given away the same potion to the winner of a 5th year potion brewing contest.
I'd say it was," Pretty Obvious". Lockhart voice. ✋ 🎤
In the movie Harry drank the whole vial of the potion, in the book he drank a couple of drops or small sips and spared the rest for another ocasión, on the last book he gave the potion to Ginny, Luna, Neville so they drank the rest of the vial
@@adamtherolf2 Yes, they had taken it when Bellatrix and the other Death Eaters entered Hogwarts.
Ya
It was in the 6th book, Half-Blood Prince not the 7th book
Also he had given the vial to Ron & said to share it between him & others, Ron was among the lucky ones that night
Actually it was in hbp
Ok?
Not only is it difficult to prepare, it can even make you run away from the battle so that you don't end up dead
Perhaps if they would have taken it there wouldn’t be any battle because of people runnign away. 😂😂
@@Marian-lx6ow or they will choose to kill Harry 😂
And then Harry with Invisibility Cloak : Haha Mortals putt sticks into your as s.
So you can prepare it while you are under the effect of the Felix Felicis, so much easier :)
It takes six months to brew, but Slughorn, who had just re-joined the school, had a small cauldron of freshly brewed Felix Felicis prepared for his first class. And Draco, who had been set a near-impossible task by Voldemort chose to steal some of the Polyjuice Potion rather than some of the Felix Felicis.
To be fair his heart was never truly into the task. He was meant to fail, but snape saved his greasy haired ass.
i think he had been brewing the potion as he had been on the run from the death eaters for some time before he was asked to comeback to hogwarts.
Felix felicis could have helped draco with the job better than Polyjuice potion but could not steal the class prize unnoticed very well
Yeh but Draco was very near the polyjuice and the Felix was too far away
@@poeskey Exactly, he had enough time to brew several batches since Voldemort's return, yet he didn't for some reason
I’ve watched all the movies I’m now on book 4 !! About half way through, the books have soo much more detail I love it
I'm in the exact same situation but started Order of Pheonix. Good luck and the books are so good.
The books r amazing, but being someone who read the books before watching the movies it was less interesting. You will have so much fun finding out different things!
i watch the movie first too, i enjoy the movie so much i afraid that reading would ruin my enjoyment watching the movie. i read a lot, but this particular book series i would skip
@@randomguy5635 thanks man I enjoy them soo much
@@SydneyW-re7nk honestly, even the little things are just so crazy
There is also this reason:
- Slughorn couldn't foresee that there would be a life-saving battle at Hogwarts 6 months in advance !!
Don't you think that it's totally plausible Slughorn, who is an experienced potions teacher with "regular" access to Felix Felicis, having some in stock, you know, "just in case"? He knows Voldemort is back since book/movie 5, he actually is presented to us like a coward personality wizard, hiding himself to not be noticed while the world is at war... I think that it's entirely possible he save some juice to times like these...
@@thelittlebastard3017 Yes, Slughorn could have some "stock in case of'. But there are storage conditions (temperature, light, humidity and container). And if, as with wines, you have to turn the bottle at some point, in what direction ... In the film, the dose for a few hours is suspended in a small glass vial vertically and at a certain height. I know films aren't a reference, but ...
@@christinedu5211 but then Harry just kinda tossed it in his trunk for quite a while with no bad effects
@@connorbossong5773 We're talking years here. Considering that the ingredients are expensive and the process complicated, his output of liquid luck would be pretty limited, and thus necessitate keeping the potion over a decade. Harry only had his for a couple months.
“These are mad times I tell you.”
I’ve always wondered why snape left his own rule breaking book with self made spells In his own potions cubbord for anyone to find in all his years as
Potion master. Seems like a big overlook 🤷🏻♂️
he was probably proud of it and wouldn't mind some prodigy student finding the book. Besides it was very beat up and usually there weren't enough students to have someone need to use it.
I would say that Dumbledore asked Snape to leave his book there inorder to be found by either Ron or Harry so one of them could obtain the Liquid Luck potion. It was at the last moment Harry had to switch to the Advance Potion making classes and he dragged Ron to it. So it's obvious they both wouldn't have their books. Also is Dumbledore gonna sit by and watch a child try and obtain memories from a wise wizard or is he gonna help Harry in someways?
Rule breaking? You forget, this is just Snapes old textbook with his doodles in it.
This just shows how powerful Snape is, this isn't his ultimate secret book, it is just his doodles, his corrections on the original. No wonder he dismissively left it lying around, its his old textbook full off scribbles and half bored doodles.
@@J.sh_CDN bruh it literally had an invented spell in it that was dark magic and created severe and unhealable wounds (except by Snape himself), that's the equivalent of sticking a gun in your backpack and leaving it at school
@@rockyroadmagic4152 Im mean, they daily deal with magic that could harm them at this year of schooling. Simple stunning spells can kill, especially if hit my multiple ones. Reducto blows things up and can really mess people up caught in the burst.
It's one spell, it can harm or kill one person. Compared to literal recipes to make Draughts of Living Death, it is still just one single spell that Snape though up and made notes of.
Definitely not a gun. I mean, pre Voldemort, I'm sure there was plenty of Pre Deatheaters that messed around with dark arts in their schooling
Aside from the brewing, in my mind liquid luck is a potion that has a very egoistic effect. It gives the user luck in HIS OWN endeavours, but also changes the perception and the will of the user a bit. What i would imagine, when an entire army before battle takes it? Half the people would probably run off, since they would probably die there, and their perceived goals might change after consumption to flee and reunite with loved ones. A quarter might sabotage themselves because they all perceive something different worthwhile to accomplish and in the end every one of them might be successful in a part but the whole might be pretty messy. Only a few would actually profit from the effects of the potion. Therefore, i dont think liquid luck is really useful in a battle scenario, where some people might be needed to sacrifice their wellbeing for the greater good... However it was quite well used on certain individuals, like Harry, who would want to archieve a quite important individual task / mission.
sounds like Skyrim))
Theory - Voldemort ordered Snape to brew some for the Death Eaters before the battle. Snape brewed up a fake batch that did nothing.
I feel Voldemort would be overconfident in his abilities with the elder wand and decline taking it
Great theory I wish it was in the book.
If two people each take liquid luck and then compete against eachother, will anybody win?
Luck cancels out and it comes down to the individual with better skill?
Quidditch, but both seekers have Felix on their side. That should be how the world cup finals are played.
From what I understood, if one took it randomly and the other took it to prepare for the duel, the one who took it randomly would win
the one who lights up a cig afterwards will win!
Ahh see that is quite a conundrum
Video idea: What if there was a full moon during the battle of Hogwarts? How would things be different? How much more chaotic would it be
Nice idea!
I don’t think much. Werewolves would just kill anyone and everyone, not just their own teammates. A lot of people would just drink the wolvesbane potion though.
I wish JKR had written werewolves as able to turn when they want, and turning during full moon being the difference with wolf animagi
@@minight1711 Any particular reason why?
@@HCProds1 They would have probably overshadowed wizards during the battle of Hogwarts, if you take vampires/Werewolves from most modern depictions where they have superhuman strength speed and high resistance to physical and magical and mental attacks and throw them into the HP universe, it wouldnt take long before they overthrow the ministry of magic pretty fast and would have made the story about them
Still, I would have loved it if HP werewolves could turn at will and Ron was bitten by Lupin in book 3, it would have forced the movies to give him the spotlight he deserved instead of giving all his moments to Hermione
Potions that makes you insanely lucky. Time traveling possibilities. The existence of so many magical creatures. So many things that can be used that are really overpowered but also smartly balanced.
Not to mention a ruby red rock that can make you immortal and give you unlimited amounts of gold.
Good thing they're making a TV series out of it. I hope they explain these things in more detail.
...overpowered but also *huge plot holes.
Fixed that for you.
SgtSupaman your quite wrong. All the time turners are destroyed after the fifth book, solving that issue, and even before hand, they can only go back a few hours which we know. Though cursed child is far from canon in my eyes, one thing we can learn from it which makes sense is that changing the past Can affect the future in devastating ways, even if you are careful. As for magical beasts, those arent even plot holes lol. As for Felix Felicis, yes it is powerful, but I imagine, like the dude in the video said, that it is extremely, extremely difficult to make, and it can get screwed up if done incorrectly, and it takes 6 months. Making this in such large quantities would practically be impossible. In times of war, who had the time or resources to do this. And what if it got tampered with by the enemy? You think Harry ron and hermione had time to make a 6 month potion while being hunted down and destroying horcruxes? Voldemort was scared for his life, and he would hate being dépendant on a potion, like dumbledore says of the elixir of life, so it wouldn’t be worth the wait for him. Not only that but he probably wouldn’t take it given the chance anyways because it takes from his sense of power. It would hurt his ego. Finally, as for why it is so rarely used, we already know that it is toxic and causes recklessness, which shows that the potion doesn’t solve all your problems, and things can end differently than you wanted them to despite taking the potion. The reason it worked so well for Harry, I must point out, is, as hermione said, Harry had it in him to get the memory from slughorn. He just needed to ‘tweak the circumstances’. The luck helped guide him, but it didn’t create something from nothing. The same thing goes for him breaking Ginny up with dean and ron with lavender. The tension was already there. We know dean and Ginny had fought earlier and she was starting to want to leave him. Ron wanted to leave lavender for some time. So all it took was something as small as a bump, or making it seem that ron was with hermione alone in the dormitory, to break them up. That is why using it in battle isn’t so handy. You may get lucky, but not in the ways you think, and you may be far from winning the battle. It is unreliable to plan to use it in any given circumstance and think it will automatically give you what you need. That is my college essay on the matter lmao.
Smartly balanced? Not really
Slughorn actually used liquid luck for the battle we can see him drinking it as he walks down the stairs
just in the movies tho
Video idea:
Why did no one know that the “barman” at the Hogs Head (Aberforth) was Dumbledore’s brother? They made him seem so irrelevant. And didn’t they favor each other? How could no one have guessed? Did Dumbledore ever visit him?
Dumbledore and Aberforth had a falling out after their sister, Arianna, died. She was killed when a curse hit her when Dumbledore and Grindelwald were dueling. It was never proven who killed her. But Aberforth broke Dumbledore's nose at the funeral.
@@nickstoehr911 thanks for the info, but it didn’t answer my questions lol. I’ve read the books multiple times.
@@tee8429 ya he mentions in certain books that he goes to the hogs head from time to time when the 3 broomsticks is busy
I always thought Liquid Luck was not really a potion enhancing your luck, but it enhances you self confidence, your clear-sightedness on your goals and whatever else. Which is why if overconsumed, it causes giddiness, recklessness and overconfidence etc.
As for the non-usage during the battle, following my simple theory, they themselves would interfere/disrupt with each other because of the confidence gained, which leads them to think they can defeat the enemies before their fellow wizards/witches. Being a great battle, that quantity of 'me first' attitude will bring unnecessary chaos to the field, so they probably decided it was best not to use it.
The potion is good for individual tasks, but a group event might be bad. I don't know.
Sooooo….cocaine?
@@SoGoodContent 's a helluva drug
Also some amount of precognitive abilities to know how to do things to succeed.
Doesn't explain how Harry managed to break up Ginny x Dean and Ron x Lavender on the same night.
I reckon the recipe was intentionally wrong in textbooks so that students wouldn’t be able to brew it.
Then why would he teach it?
no cause it worked for Harry and he also wrote them down as notes as well
@@Karvalian yes that’s my point lmao. Snape’s book was edited, and it’s what made Harry succeed. The og commenter is suggesting that the book is intentionally wrong so people mess up. All that I said was that that’s wrong because Harry tried it and it worked. My second point was that Snape himself wrote down those notes in the book as a way of remembering more efficient method, and since snape wrote it down cuz it worked better, how can it be that it’s “intentionally wrong”
@@Karvalian ok then, that wasn’t clear initially. If I’m not mistaken they reworded their comment. But anyway, even then, why would Hogwarts allow such a thing?
> intentionally wrong in textbooks
Sounds similar to real-life, especially them "history" books... ;)
Would it be possible that it's just a placebo effect?
A skilled potion master could brew something benign out of something malignant. This potion master ought to be quite skilled to begin with and luck has nothing to do with their sharp senses.
And whoever was gifted the liquid luck is quite fortunate not to be poisoned by a bad outcome. So in order for it to work, the consumer has to be lucky at first.
I mean Harry Potter is basically the Lucky One after Voldermort failed to kill him.
Actually this is exactly SCB's theory on the thing
I think it's probably a placebo too, when Harry pretended he gave Ron it, Ron still did well despite not having real liquid luck
I think ultimately the reason Voldemort couldn't kill him was because Harry had both luck and love on his side. He was doubly blessed by two of the most powerful forms of magic.
No, because in the books, Harry gets distinct urges to do things, direct 'pulls' to go to locations that would otherwise have no bearing on his task. Without Felix Felicus, Harry would have had no reason to go to Hagrid's since he was trying to find Slughorn, the logical place to look would have been Slughorn's office, but the Felix Felicus gave him the impetus to look in the correct location to accomplish his goal. If it was a placebo effect, he'd _feel_ lucky, and would see some correlation in accomplishing things, but he wouldn't get that kind of precognition or direct urge to go to a location that ostensibly has nothing to do with his actual objective. Felix Felicus has to have some kind of magic to make Harry go to the grounds rather than Slughorn's office.
@@SerathDarklands The theory on that is that Harry had always gone to help Hagrid, so that would feel like the right thing to do. But that also dosen't explain why he felt the need to go by the greenhouses. (Which led him to meeting Slughorn.)
Not to mention the fact that there were at least four Death Eaters at Hogwarts, so Slughorn would have to brew it under their noses, and nobody had any idea when the conflict was going to come to a head, so they would have to idea if it would be done in time.
What happens if two people who have both imbibed Liquid Luck and have conflicting goals come into contact?
@Daniel Wow, good one man 👍🏾
Seekers.
The one who takes it randomly wins over the one who takes it with something in mind
The "Twilight Zone" (Mr. Denton on Doomsday) answered that.
It would somehow end up a Win-Win
I always thought the reason was simple: that in battle you need more then luck and that taking it could make you overconvidence and let you less rely and skill and more on luck, while you should rely only on skill. I do like how you in this vid go over all possible view points. great vid and keep up the good work
Actually, Seamus Gorman has a theory that Aberforth spiked the mead that he served to the trio with liquid luck. You should check it out
Used to watch him but not anymore
@@minhajnizam5090 why
@@PriyaPans can't stand the guy anymore
@@minhajnizam5090 why
@@minhajnizam5090 Yeah, Why?
You videos never disappoint. Keep up the good work.
I always wonder if Harry was just lucky to come across the Half-blood prince’s Potion book, or if it might have been planted there waiting for him to pick it up, so he can soar through the class with ease.
you're forgetting that it was used by Harry's friends against deatheaters on the day dumbledore dies
Could you please do ‘what if Draco followed through with the task?’ How would the story have ended differently?
Ooooh great idea
If Draco had killed Dumbledore then everything would have ended up the same, except that Snape wouldn't have been killed by Voldemort at the end - thus making things a bit easier. The mastery of the Elder Wand would have still passed to Draco, who would have still been overpowered and physically disarmed by Harry, who would have carried Draco's old wand (now Harry's) into his Sacrifice scene, thus tipping off to the Elder Wand that the owner of the wand that had disarmed it from Dumbledore had himself been disarmed...
Harry would have still been Master of Death, Draco would have been executed by Voldemort at Hogwarts (too late to "take" the mastery, but hey ho), and Harry would still have won.
But Snape would live. I could live with that change. Draco is one of the most useless excuses for human garbage that I've ever read about. Snape, however, had some real depth.
@@Iluvantir draco was raised in a family of rich and proud nazis (see the similarities between muggles and ww2). of course he would end up the way he did. what i find most interesting is that he didn't support the dark side when it mattered the most. i do wish we had gotten a bit of a redemption arc for him in deathly hollows.
loving the longer video btw, thank you!
At 380k subs still some of theost underrated content I have the pleasure of watching before work. You sir, are a hero. Keep up the good work and the music good as always!!
If you recall, in the book, Harry used maybe half of the potion to get the memory from Slughorn. He gave the rest to his classmates directly before the battle of Hogwarts.
There is a theory actually that Aberforth slipped some to their drinks. I don't necessary buy it but I guess it can't be ruled totally out of contention.
Slughorn quote at the end and quite accurate one :)
Why does Aberforth even have it on him?
Not a chance. Harry would have known. He has felt the effects before. J.K Rowling always put what Harry was feeling into every part of the story, this would have been included.
@@LILL4ZY100 That's why I said I don't really believe it. But it is possible tho. Imagine all the stress and exhaustion and fear etc, you may not notice all the symptoms of the drink.
@@warhawkbrawlstars57 The same reason Harry escaped death for like 400 times 😂
It may have been expensive and rare, even though Slughorn offered it as a reward to his students. He said that only 1 other time had a student managed to win the vial, so he probably saw it as a small risk for himself and a great motivator for his students.
i assume the other one was the half blood prince snape?
@@hellboy19991 they never elaborate on who it was, but it wouldn't surprise me because Snape is very gifted when it comes to making potions
Can ya make a vid about who was the defense against the dark arts professor after the deathly hallows?
Amyscus carrow(death eater)
@@kayeshasan3683 That's wrong, Amycus Carrow is the teacher in the deathly hallows, but Not after them
I’m not sure with what happened to draco, and this is based off of nothing except assumption, maybe draco?
In the books when he leaves with Dumbledore to find the hocrux or whatever the spelling is, he tells his friends to drink it
For those who say it takes 6 months to brew it, then use the freaking time turner. Like when you’re in the middle of the battle just find a quiet place and turn the thing 4380 times and go 6 months back in time and brew it. Or alternatively go even further back in time to give yourself more room to breathe. Then by the time you come to the present, you’ll have enough liquid luck for all good guys.
I think the time turners were all destroyed in book 5, or something like that
I’d really love to see either a long video or multiple shorter ones discussing the origins of the different transportation methods in the HP world, such as Floo Powder/Floo Network, Apparition, broomsticks, and port keys. I don’t know if others would be interested in this but I sure would be!
Nice! I was waiting for this video!
Why didn’t Voldemort brew and drink a potion of liquid luck when going to kill Harry the first time? Or does it not work against prophecies.
Well it might be caused by his ego
Voldy has way to big an ego to think he needs liquid luck
He doesn’t want to shatter his pride. If people knew he killed Harry using a luck potion, people will think that he is not really the worst dark wizard. Also what the others said about his ego, his big ego is what ended his life. Plus plot convenience.
Because Harry was a literal BABY... Why the hell would Voldemort need liquid luck for that???
Dubledore had a plan, and got Snape on with it. Maybe Snape's potions book wasn't there just by accident, but planted by Dumbledore or Snape in effort to get Harry selected?
And Dumbledore drank liquid luck so Harry loses the „fight“ over the new book against ron😮
@@Tmugu There's not any fight in the books. Both books are in a miserable condition.
And if that was taken by any Slytherin ?
I never thought about this! Very good points made!
Awesome video! Awesome music!
I think the main reason was the timing, Slughorn didn't know that the battle would take place, and I doubt he would have a lot of liquid luck ready to use at any time
these guys have time travel, they can literally travel across time and space
The time turners were destroyed in the 5th book
@@conzil8588 As long as the concept of time travel has been discovered/invented they could replicate the results in multiple ways regardless of one kind of device being destroyed. Like we don't have one kind of rocket that can fly to space each country has developed own tech. And either way, I don't understand why they need rely technological devices to travel through time when these folk pride themselves on having magic IN THEIR BLOOD. This whole thing is so stupid.
@@conzil8588 how fitting
In the films, just before the battle doesnt Slughorn apear to take a swig of something? Liquid luck maybe...?
Yeh he does
I thought it was booze lol
The movies are not canon.
@@joeyshofner639 it specifically says “film” so no need to bring it up
I assumed hard liquor or something because he’d need it to deal with the battle lol
Thank you I’ve always wondered about this
This was very interesting I like these longer videos keep it up Harry Potter theory
Here's an idea: What if two people try to kill one another while high on Liquid Luck?
First one who’s potion runs out does 😂
Till the effect remains, both may be in a dilemma of having killed the other. If the amount and time of taking the potion is different, then the person whose potion runs out earlier, will die.
They'll both succeed. Potion makes you successful, not safe.
Voldemort probably wouldn’t have counted on such an excessive method. After all he is too high hearted to think that anything but his great cunning can alter any outcome.
Love to hear welcome to another installment of harry potter theory
Thank you for putting this up, theory. It is something I think I had mentioned in the comments section of a previous upload.
The part about how the potion could help the drinker survive in the midst of a battle is vital info. At the end of Half-blood Prince, Harry had given the rest of his to Ron and Hermione to share with Ginny. All three of them were able to successfully dodge the curses from the invading Death Eaters until the Death Eaters retreated.
SImple answer in my opinion, it would have made it way to easy. Having one of the main characters like Harry or Ron drink Liquid Luck before the battle would lessen the impact and suspense of the fight.
I have another thought, but I don't know how relevant it needs to be.
I believe that Lord Voldemort himself would dislike the concept of this potion. "Luck" would likely be concidered something for the weak. He might even have tried to prevent people from making it.
No I didn't wonder, but when I saw the title, I could seemingly easily see the reasons why it wasn't used..... Great video though sir!!!!! And I think the fact is luck can get you so far as you willingly have to go but not everytime can it achieve the impossible, and in the end the efforts matter how devotion and brilliance you pout into ur task at hand that matters
I like that the potion basically made him more confident, and more pushing, thus making any questions to anyone, practically impossible not to answer, from the sheer confidence behind the words. When I saw this scene I suddenly got a sense of that, and started acting more confident, genuine, and felt like more doors opened, by just asking people things.
This is not just the only case where Hogwarts, harry and the good could have been protected there were many ways! A really good question! Love the thumbnail as always!
If you watch the deathly hallows movie I think there's an Easter egg when all the teachers line up in front of hogwarts ready for battle, if you look close slughorn is taking a swig of something. I reckon that was Felix felicis 😉
Also with the attack on the astronomy tower, I think Harry shared his felix felicis with his mates. Can't remember though
Great video love long vids
Wow thanks I’ve wanted to know this forever
I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some sort of cap in the amount of luck you can attain. Like say, overdosing gives you good luck, but eventually reverses to bad luck until you “detox.”
Supercarlinbrothers have a really good video on liquid Luck, check it out. But yeah, it can cause dangerous over confidence and such as well.
I've thought about this but always thought that because it takes so long to brew, is extremely difficult to make and obtain the ingredients and probably wouldn't keep too long once made it could only be made to use on a certain date. Obviously no one knew when the big battle would happen, that was determined by them finding the Horcruxes and Voldermort finding out.
Brilliant video! 👏 🙌
So, we know now that it takes around 6 months or so to successfully brew a bottle of Liquid Luck. If there is a spell that can alter/speed up time, couldn't they speed up the brewing process to make it near instantaneous? Is there a time altering spell?
Cool video
Nice video bro
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I was also always wondering why they never used this potion in the battle or anytime they knew there would be a very difficult liferisking situation coming up. I see your points what could have been the reason for not using it, but with Voldemord on the horizon i don‘t think that these are stromg enough reasons to not taking this potion.
I just think that JK invented a overpowered weapon and included it in the story without thinking it through.
Yup, same with the Time Turner. Wizards invented a gosh darn TIME MACHINE and what do they do? Give it to children... to be able to take extra classes... because that's totally not dangerous in the hands of children and totally the most sensible use of a time machine. There is a chapter in the excellent HP spin-off "Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality" that's entirely about this nonsense, and it's outrageously funny. Highly recommend the read; it can be read for free online.
Slughorn only used liquid luck twice in his life and he was a master potions brewer, you can't just use it once a year for every big event. If you use it too much, it makes you reckless and egotistical.
What if all alone Voldemort used poly juice potion and is some else...
A bottle of that would sell for 5k/drop in our world.
"Want that super cozy, extremely lucrative job? Liquid Luck !"
I have a few theories to why Slughorn didn’t serve out Felix Felices prior to the battle of Hogwarts. 1) Slughorn didn’t have enough time since everything was all happening so fast. 2) He most likely has placed a vanishing spell over the batch he conjured up on their first day of school after the class was over to dispose of the potion (especially since we know that Draco had his eye on the potion) and had seemingly never needed it since. 3) Slughorn didn’t have any potion left in the potion storehouse at Hogwarts. Slughorn also mentioned in his first class that the potion is so complicated to brew and can result in disastrous consequences if brewed inaccurately. Which is why I’m thinking that such a complicated potion would take a long time (probably longer than Polyjuice Potion) to brew. It really could be any of those things.
0:28 this pause. Nevilles looks like he’s about to spit “F***** you” at Voldie.
I wasn't aware there are potion making tournaments. To me that's a fact more interesting than what this video entails.
didn’t snape’s mom win one of those in the newspaper cutout hermione found?
Use it well! always gets me
Harry took a small amount of the potion to get the memory from Slughorn but he left the rest of the bottle with Ron when he and Dumbledore left for the cave to retrieve the horcrux. Ron, Hermione, Luna, and Neville took the rest of it just as the Battle of the Astronomy Tower broke out. Luna later said that the four of them all escaped any injury when it appeared that they shouldn’t.
It's like the crack of the harry potter world. Expensive, hard to get hold of and dangours if you get it wrong. Confidence for only so long and should only been used to party with death eater not fight. A pipe a day keeps old voldy away 😅
I think that even if, say, Slughorn and Aberforth were able to set up a brewing-shop in Abe's tavern or the Shrieking Shack or something, and actually produce Felix Felicis in secret, in anticipation of a hypothetical battle of Hogwarts (they would need to begin like half a year before it happened) they still would not be able to produce enough for everyone. That leaves the rather awkward question of who is important enough to get some, and who isn't?
I think it would be more likely, if they actually did that, that the Felix would be used continuously over the course of the school year by the members of Dumbledore's army, so that by the time of the battle of Hogwarts all the stockpile they could have built up would have been depleted. Though there might have been enough for say, Harry, to use some for dueling Voldemort...
You can literally see Professor Slughorn Drinking it after McGonagall animates the statues of Hogwarts in the movie
I did wonder why they didnt use it.. good explanation
Luck can go both ways, good luck, and bad luck, now for the books purposes, liquid luck, is always good luck. lol.
Well, now we can use that to take an educated guess what happens if the potion is brewed wrong...
Probably too expensive to mass-produce
Stable video👍
Placing in the time it should have been used, I wouldn't be surprised that when Voldemort and the Death Eaters took over the Ministry of Magic, the creation and possession of this potion was declared illegal in Great-Brittain, making creation and possession punishable by death for all. After all, Felix Felicis would make it any possible coup a lot easier and they had plenty of enemies who might want to retake the Ministry. By preventing anyone from creating or possessing it, the Death Eaters could make sure that it can't be used in a scheme against them.
The ban can also works in two ways: an import ban of certain ingredients and the potion in general and strict control on those who might be able to create it. Those who already possess it, have their supply destroyed. And seeing how it take 6 months, it would be very risky to make more once the death penalty is written into law.
After Voldemorts fall, the laws were likely abandon due to it being quite paranoid to begin with.
Firstly, Liquid Luck is REALLY hard to brew and Slughorn says that if, taken in excess, it can cause recklessness. SO! This could be a reason. SECONDLY, they most likely did NOT have it on hand at that exact moment BECAUSE they didn't think of or have the need for it.
I would use liquid luck to figure out a way how to easily produce large amounts of a new version of liquid luck that's safe to consume in large amounts.
Life with magic is too easy if you exploit it with proper ingenuity.
I don't think Liquid Luck enables you to succeed at impossible things, and there are several things we know are impossible even with magic. Repairing a broken wand or broomstick without the elder wand. Conjuring food out of nothing. And maybe brewing a "perfect" felix felicis without the side effects.
You're thinking too small. I would take it in order to try and make my own Philosopher's Stone. Who needs luck anymore when you are immortal and rich beyond your dreams?
@@barbiquearea - you're thinking too small if you think your life can't take any improvements if you're rich already. There have been many rich people who ended up unhappy and even comitting suicide. Infinite luck would provide you with anything you need for your wellbeing.
@@Jeyricho - repairing a broken wand is not impossible. The Elder Wand was made by Antioch Peverell. If it was made once, it could have been made many more times, it's just the other wand makers didn't have the know-how.
Conjuring food out of nothing is a completely different thing. It's inconsequential anyway unless you're locked up in a sterile enviroment, as multiplying food is possible. Apparition, various summoning charms etc. Just apparate in a forest, take one berry, multiply it and you have unlimited food. Apparate in a supermarket when it's closed, you don't even have to steal, just multiply one piece of food, take one for yourself and leave one as it was. Then multiply it at home more times.
Of course there are countless ways to justify how what I thought of would be impossible but most of them would seem like "patching up" plotholes arbitrarily IMO. There's no reason for a potion being unable to achieve something if you have the know-how and the right ingredients just like muggle technology- there's pretty much nothing a machine can't do if you design it in a right way and provide if with enough energy and material. If something it's impossible for a machine, it's impossible yet because we don't have reached the level of knowledge yet, not because it's inherently impossible. There's some pretty weird stuff possible to do with magic so why would less weird stuff be suddenly impossible.
I always supposed the potion can only works if it is made by somebody who does not wish to use it or need it. It could be like a present, like lucky charms/objects normally are sentimental things one closed person alive or not gave to us.
I think as well that it could have a very short shelf life. It might take 6 months to brew and then only be effective (or most effective) for a few weeks.
Hell yeah, it would be awesome to see a bunch off drunks win the battle off Hogwarts 🤘
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I like to think of LL as something like desoxyn (meth amph in pharma form). You do a bunch and soon you gain a tolerance. Plus, the after effects become seriously bad luck for the amount of time you had good luck. With the bad luck becoming worse and worse. Used in small amounts, sparingly, it can help you, but not if you've been smashing it back.
Add something like diffusion or crystallization rate as a reason why it can only be brewed in tiny batches. Maybe reactivity too as a reason why it you can’t store large quantities in close proximity.
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Good discussion about Felix Felicis
Something that always stood out to me in the scene with Slughorn talking about the dangers of brewing "should you get it wrong"... but my thoughts were that you only need to succeed once! You drink the successful one (or at least take tiny doses) during each step in the brewing process , which guarantee's success on the subsequent potions being brewed! That way you have a massive stockpile for when you need it!
yeah cuz that one potion that you succeeded on, will last another 6 month until the next one is done
Let's say Voldemort was thinking about using liquid luck. I think he wouldn't trust anyone but himself to make it. So it would take up a significant amount of his time. And let's say Slughorn was very conservative with his usage; that could still mean that using it more than once every 5 years or so, causes significant problems; so during a war; how do you pick which 1 day to use it? 2. What message does it send that the great and powerful Voldemort needs to rely on luck and not just rely on luck, but devote significant resources and 6 months of his time for that luck? It would be admitting he isn't as powerful as he claims to be.
i also think that the potion has to be difficult to brew during the duration. Or else after Slughorn or someone else makes a successful batch, they could use the successful batch to start brewing 50 batches and come close to mass producing it. Even if there were only difficult aspects of the brewing 3 days of the brew time during the 6 months; it seems like it would be a relatively easy feat to have 3 skilled potion making wizards take a liquid luck potion while making many batches at the same time to mass produce it.
I think the wizards that are skilled enough to make it usually think they have better uses of their time than to devote 6 months to a day of luck.
I think if Voldemort wanted Liquid Luck, he would have Snape make it. But his pride wouldn’t let him take liquid luck anyway.
Real quick on the subject of the potions book. I have a hard time believing that book went unnoticed even in its condition was poor. Not for all those years as it would have been removed in its condition or turned in or someone would’ve gotten in trouble for using that sempra spell. I believe Snape kept that book snd then enchanted it and placed it in there for Harry to find. Dumbledore may have even been in on it for that matter so could have Slughorn though I doubt it. But yes I absolutely believe Snape placed that in there with an enchantment on it to ensnare Harry. Not for any cruel intentions obviously but to honestly help him without helping him. I wonder how many other things like that he’s done
I wonder if the potion potentially has a short shelf life. It would explain why the order and death eaters don’t have it on hand all the time.
Liquid Luck is much like 'The Mirror of Erised', both have potential to be miss used.
Actually in the battle of Hogwarts in the movies you csn see slughorn drinking a little potion in the background when Mcgonegall tells Nevile ti blow up the bridge. Its a fan Theorie that he drank felix felicies and thats why the barly won the battle.
I swear I just asked myself this after watching your video on the timeturners😂