How Strong Is The ATLAS LOCK On The Cold Steel Engage?

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  • @gideonstactical
    @gideonstactical  ปีที่แล้ว +78

    So update. None of the pins failed. It has to do with the pivot. Too tight and the bar now does not engage and you have all the up-and-down rattle if you back it off the bar will engage but then you have a bunch of side to side rattle. And I can’t get it to operate like you saw in the video prior to batoning. 👍

    • @LegionTacticoolCutlery
      @LegionTacticoolCutlery ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Great job GSM!

    • @kennywheelus6857
      @kennywheelus6857 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not that you should baton a folder but if you find yourself in that situation an that's all you have,I'm goiwith the ad-10,or the coldsteel 4 max,I like both an both triad lock an both are solid performers an tough too.

    • @KungFuTweety1
      @KungFuTweety1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great video

    • @kl-a1dcaypso945
      @kl-a1dcaypso945 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I would like to see what it would take to fail completely. I do like the quickness of this lock to deploy and fold away. It just hasn’t compelled me enough to unseat the AD10 in my pocket. It is just so comfortable in hand. As well as the confidence inspiring strength of the Triad lock. I appreciate the videos. Your video on the Rajah has made me think about picking up one. I had not considered a recurve blade before that. Thanks for the videos.

    • @kl-a1dcaypso945
      @kl-a1dcaypso945 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@john0270 Oops, that was an unintentionally mistype on my part. I meant Triad as that was part of the point I was making. Thanks for pointing it out so that nobody gets confused. I bought the AD10 in large part because of the Triad lock. I still would like to see what it takes to fail the new Atlas lock completely. Maybe Joe X will do it.

  • @charlescollier7217
    @charlescollier7217 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thanks, Aaron. Really appreciate the straightforward review, as always.

  • @budthecyborg4575
    @budthecyborg4575 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Tri-Ad lock is a genuinely revolutionary design.
    Lynn struck gold when he found Mr. Demko.

  • @The_Hartofect_
    @The_Hartofect_ ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It’s always impressive to see a pocket “able” to do what a fixed blade can without breaking or injuring yourself. It shouldn’t be done but good to know that in a situation you can depend on your folder to handle this type of abuse.

  • @tgonzalez1983
    @tgonzalez1983 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love it! Got some co workers to buy it after trying mine. I let them use this, the AD20, & a Medford P. They all seemed to love the Engage. Despite the others being American made.

  • @LegionTacticoolCutlery
    @LegionTacticoolCutlery ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I like the Engage but I battened a Cold Steel Bushranger. I love that knife and the Cold Steel TriAd lock... Just unbeatable.

    • @demo2952
      @demo2952 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love my bush ranger. I convexed it

    • @amo757
      @amo757 ปีที่แล้ว

      My BushRanger is my favorite outdoors knife as well.

    • @jaredbryant8297
      @jaredbryant8297 ปีที่แล้ว

      I too rock the bush ranger!

  • @steellovingyou8673
    @steellovingyou8673 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    " Ha Ha Ha Rock Solid Baby " - GT 2022 - Tri Ad Lock.

  • @dtester
    @dtester ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Atlas seems to be a very strong lock that is easier to actuate than the tri-ad but giving up some durability. I think that it is a fair trade off. I wonder how the Shark lock will fair under the same testing!

  • @m4coyote
    @m4coyote ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for this test Aaron. I have been on the fence about purchasing the Engage, and this honest demo was all I needed to make my decision.

    • @W49Boowie
      @W49Boowie ปีที่แล้ว

      I somehow doubt that you're going to shell out $165 bucks for an inferior knife especially when the Recon 1 Clip point is such a damn good knife, all the Recon 1's are truly great knives, and personally I think that it's one of those incredible yet uncomplicated knives that anyone that regularly uses a knife is going to class it as pretty much faultless.
      The Engage is just a POS, there's just no way it can compete against the Recon 1, and I pretty much know that's no surprise to anyone.

    • @wendellknight2072
      @wendellknight2072 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@W49Boowie
      I have to admit that I like the atlas lock but I cant imagine a single situation where I would be batoning with a pocket knife. But I would use either one of these knives in a self defense situation without any kind of hesitation

  • @Herne0011
    @Herne0011 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Been watching since your Ferhman Extreme Judgement review. Glad to CS keeping up the quality after the purchase.

  • @Kens_knives
    @Kens_knives ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the informative test and review of the Coldsteel Engage.

  • @charlesjonestherednecknerd
    @charlesjonestherednecknerd ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video. The triad has been proven to be great. The atlas is new from CS and GSM. I am interested in is this a one off or is this a weakness of the atlas lock itself? Either way great job reminding people never do this or at least only in emergency situations. It is not a job folding knives would do, and in fact most knife companies say do not baton even with their fixed blades. We still do it with fixed blades but in most instances voids the warranty.

  • @machendachen
    @machendachen ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Have had the recon on my wish list for at least 7 years now! Should just get one! Thanks for the review as always great job! 👍

    • @CTuna-uo3pq
      @CTuna-uo3pq ปีที่แล้ว +2

      7 years? Don't get one now, you're gonna hate yourself for not getting it 7 years ago

    • @machendachen
      @machendachen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CTuna-uo3pq Not really. I like the design of the knife and the cpm svn35 for the price makes it a good buy. Makes a good quality knife you're not aftaid to beat up

    • @samuelrichardsonmcgravyber4559
      @samuelrichardsonmcgravyber4559 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@machendachen I carry my recon 1 tanto at work every day and it’s a fantastic knife. It was my first “real” knife that I bought. Super sturdy, and can take whatever you throw at it. Definitely buy one if you haven’t already. Everybody should own a recon.

  • @petersirangelo2867
    @petersirangelo2867 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not sure if one has more moving parts than the other. Both have a moving lock bar, both have a spring that gets compressed, both have a blade that moves. Both strong in a weight hang, but the TRI-AD lock is clearly better at shock. Which is likely the type of abuse someone would put their knife thru. Can't really think of something I would do that would hang 400lbs off the handle of the knife. And where I have seen TRI-AD equipped knives fail, is either the blade breaks, or the pivot pin breaks or comes out. The lock area itself holds up. I trust the TRI-AD over any other knife lock. And even over some smaller fixed blades. Anyway, just my two cents, great video.

  • @E.L.RipleyAtNostromo
    @E.L.RipleyAtNostromo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really appreciate the overview and testing, but for outdoors between the Recon 1 in S35VN and the really excellent Ultimate Hunter I have in CTS-XHP, (not to mention the AD-10 as a bulletproof backup just in case!), I think I’m covered on Cold Steel folders.
    Thanks for the look at the Bush Ranger though, I wasn’t familiar with that model and it looks interesting. 👍

  • @57HEMIviken
    @57HEMIviken ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So it's heavier more expensive and weaker than most triad locks = a hard pass for me the point of buying a cold steel is you can literally do anything you want to it and it doesn't care.

    • @gideonstactical
      @gideonstactical  ปีที่แล้ว

      None of the pins failed. It has to do with the pivot. Too tight in the bar now does not engage and you have all the up-and-down rattle if you back it off the bar will engage but then you have a bunch of side to side rattle. And I can’t get it to operate like you saw in the video prior to batoning.

  • @marygrace5231
    @marygrace5231 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for doing this comparison. I was curious as to the strength of them.

  • @mountaingoattaichi
    @mountaingoattaichi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video! Definitely want to here your thoughts on the shark lock. Edited to add: i only carry knives with the triad. I just love how solid it is.

  • @gladeshunter8796
    @gladeshunter8796 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I’m going to pick up another Cold Steel folder but it won’t be that one . I’ll stick with the tried and true Triad Lock .

    • @allemander
      @allemander ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rajah II FTW.
      AD-10, a great alternative.

    • @clive-t.m.d7955
      @clive-t.m.d7955 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Any CS Voyager is a good bet. Rajah 2 also good but weighty.

  • @TopDog8762
    @TopDog8762 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was very valuable testing. Thank You.

  • @MannixKnives
    @MannixKnives ปีที่แล้ว

    So excited and happy about the Atlas lock, it may not be able to withstand the shock the Tri-Ad can, but it certainly wins at speed and convenience!

  • @panagiotissoufliotis6558
    @panagiotissoufliotis6558 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's a review i was waiting for! Seems like the atlas lock finally is a fidget factor player not for robustness. Tri ad keeps being the king. Great job boy!!

  • @AllAhabNoMoby
    @AllAhabNoMoby 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    If anything it seemed like you thumped the Recon 1 even harder. And remember, the Recon 1 has no liners at all. One of the strengths of the Tri-Ad lock is its ability to self-adjust. Love that knife.

  • @kennywheelus6857
    @kennywheelus6857 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Definitely love the triad lock,it's no joke on the coldsteel knives,thstsbwhy I'm going for a ad-10,but I love the ad-15 too,too many choices

  • @Joe-pw7ky
    @Joe-pw7ky ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m glad I came across your video I’m having a similar issue with the engage by cold steel, I bought it for my son for a everyday work carry he’s been using it for about 3 weeks he works in a warehouse and all he uses it for is to break down cardboard boxes and cut plastic straps and shrink wrap it’s not really hard use but the blade moves up and down and side to side with a clanking noise and if you tighten the pivot to stop the movement the lock does not engage , I thought I just purchased a defective one but now I see your video it might be a design flaw, I’m going to call gsm tomorrow (Monday ) I hope they honor the warranty it’s not even a month old

    • @raymondknight5298
      @raymondknight5298 ปีที่แล้ว

      I cant stand the knife, it sounds like junk from regular users all over the place, Im glad I didnt get it because it was hypedup as the big takeover.

    • @adrianfytr35
      @adrianfytr35 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you ever get a reply from them?

  • @bryantherocker
    @bryantherocker ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It because of the lock design, the triad lock pushes a L shape bar down to lock the blade, so it compensate for any deformed metal from the impact... while the atlas lock pushes horizontally, if the metal is deformed in the bar vertically, its does not compensate, therefore it wiggles.

  • @ManInTheWoods76
    @ManInTheWoods76 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've carried the now discontinued Triad ProLite folder for quite a few years. I believe it was discontinued because those budget folders are not smooth openers and they opted to add liners in later models. But I carry it for utility only so I don't care. I've had liner locks close on me while drilling a hole. Never again.
    When I can't carry my fixed blades, it's Triad only for me. Needless to say, I'm no collector.

  • @rickgrimes2043
    @rickgrimes2043 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Finally a decent review on this knife and an honest one too

  • @evanthompson1420
    @evanthompson1420 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I use a cold steel code 4 at work all day and the triad lock has had no problems ans s35vn sharpens back do quickly. (I'm an outdoor and survival skills instructor so I baton and featherstick almost every day with knives and in my programs talk about how you should only baton with a fixed blade unless it has a demko triad lock)

  • @stevetqp9152
    @stevetqp9152 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video as always, Gideon! Just wondering what the difference is, if any, between your Engage model and the CS Drifter model, also with the AXIS lock. I ordered the Drifter 3" as an EDC, and certainly don't plan on batoning with it, so assuming that the AXIS lock would easily handle anything I can throw at it. Thanks!

  • @JAMESGREGORYKULP1985
    @JAMESGREGORYKULP1985 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Cold Steel never should have deviated from the Triad Lock. Gsm outdoors is taking cold Steel in the wrong direction. I have A Cold Steel American Lawman Lockback pocket knife. And I love it. All black and A 3.5 inch S35VN Stainless steel blade.

    • @Prizrak-hv6qk
      @Prizrak-hv6qk หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why not? They are not replacing the Tri-AD or anything. Just introduced a new lock for people who want a still very strong lock which has better ergonomics. ATLAS is arguably more ergonomic and safer for daily use, with its one-handed "fingers never in the path of the blade" disengagement. Tri-AD is great in a lot of situations but if iffy as heck to use when you only have one hand available.

  • @graybeardedsheepdog9037
    @graybeardedsheepdog9037 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tri-Ad or nothing!! It just works!!! I have a few hard use knives & the Cold Steel's Recon 1 and American Lawman can out perform my Benchmade and Zero Tolerance, and the Cold Steel's are much cheaper

    • @dtester
      @dtester ปีที่แล้ว

      True, but the Tri-ad patent will expire in 2026. It makes sense for CS to put out a lock now and improve it has they get feedback from the customers.

  • @eyeofthetiger4184
    @eyeofthetiger4184 ปีที่แล้ว

    G'day Aaron, upfront bias my fav folders are the Recon 1, Gator Premo, Buck 110; common thread - large, robust and back lock of some description, and no probs .... ever. Sure I wouldn't baton them unless in emergency, but still, cant say I'm surprised at your results. Cheers Duke.

  • @mplsatty
    @mplsatty ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for breaking it! This video is very helpful -- I'll stick with their Triad lock.

  • @jasonashley4579
    @jasonashley4579 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been a student of kali for years I own a very large collection of knives, Al Mar benchmade spyderco extreme ratio bastinelli you name it, my daily carry folder is a coldsteel counterpoint 1, it's an excellent everyday selfdefense folder.

  • @stefanwilliams1687
    @stefanwilliams1687 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks man for doing this review, it's good to know know these knives perform under duress

  • @forestmantis1737
    @forestmantis1737 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, thanks for the video, it´s great as usual. I would disassemble the knife and find out, what is going on. If it is something just lose what you can fix (a screw) it is fine. If it is something even minor damaged - deformed, I wouldn´t buy the lock (knives with it) anymore. The Triad is proven so no need to change really. Btw, when I tested my SR 1 and SR 1 Lite, after batoning both had loosened the pivot screw and that was it. After I added a spring washer, it works up today:-) Have a great time. FM

  • @Kris_Stiletto
    @Kris_Stiletto ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow! Great Video. I won't be doing any Batoning with my 3.5" Engage... Thank you! I knew it would be extremely hard to beat the Demko Tri-Ad Lock. I want to see the Atlas-Lock compared to the Shark-Lock. Put the Engage up against the AD20 or AD20S Model. That would be a great battle to see who makes the better, easy to use, lock. :-) Peace, Stiletto :-)

  • @NGMonocrom
    @NGMonocrom ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh heck no! I sure as heck wouldn't keep using the knife after that massive wobble.
    Thanks. Wasn't sure if I should get the 2.5-inch bladed version of this knife, or another Tuff Lite from Cold Steel. I'm going with the latter. Thanks for making this decision an easy one.

  • @bennyc409
    @bennyc409 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is the new Cold Steel without Lynn Thompson, Andrew Demko, or Mike Wallace. The Atlas lock looks like they've tried to rip off the Shark lock.

  • @michaelpatriots5702
    @michaelpatriots5702 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love my spartan, carry it every day. Nothing beats it. I would definitely pick up this knife. I'm glad you beat the hell out of it. Did you ever figure out what came loose? A follow up would be cool. Thanks.

    • @tacticalcenter8658
      @tacticalcenter8658 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He didn't beat the hell out of it. Check out Joe X he beats the hell out of knives.

    • @michaelpatriots5702
      @michaelpatriots5702 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Anytime you baton with a folder is beating the hell out of it

    • @tacticalcenter8658
      @tacticalcenter8658 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@michaelpatriots5702 not really. Watch Joe X and see what I mean.

  • @joeroth7140
    @joeroth7140 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We are so spoiled now with affordable high end blade steel…and I love it!

  • @Youtube-Censorship-Police
    @Youtube-Censorship-Police 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the difference between the triad and the atlas is that the triad is L and keel-shaped, so it's self-adjusting, that why you won't get wiggle.
    the atlas is more like the shark-lock and doesn't have that clever feature, if there's even the slightest bit of deformation you will instantly feel it.
    it's just a flickedy-flick design for fun, inferior in strength and durability.
    thanks for the testing, this video was really insightful!

  • @kennywheelus6857
    @kennywheelus6857 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like what Andrew Demko,did with the triad lock.

  • @paulthelefty
    @paulthelefty ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you should talk about the elephant in the room in this design… the Demko AD20 and 20.5. The atlas seems to be a direct shot over the bow of Demko’s shark lock design. And I also love my Recon 1.

  • @shaunblevins3303
    @shaunblevins3303 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    GSM/Cold Steel Stole the Atlas Lock Design from Demko. I would never waste my money on a Engage or any knife with the Atlas Lock. For me it’s The Triad Lock. I’ve spent 20yrs as an Arborist and went through many knives the only knives and Lock that has never failed was the Triad. Great video.

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      @unitedstatesirie7431 ปีที่แล้ว

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      The FEDERAL RESERVE is listed in the business pages of a paper phone book.

    • @kennyphelps1160
      @kennyphelps1160 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Demco designed both and licensed them

  • @user-bc4bv9dp6w
    @user-bc4bv9dp6w 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You just save myself 150 bucks! Thanks man! Great review!

  • @stevenstroupe3805
    @stevenstroupe3805 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I happen to own 3 cold steel knives. All tri ad lock knives. Not too keen on the product now with the new take over.

  • @michaelodonnell1371
    @michaelodonnell1371 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review

  • @Hunterssoldier
    @Hunterssoldier ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I bought an Engage when they first released. It's not a bad knife, fun locking mechanism as you said. The Recon 1 & AD10 are still probably better models for less money.
    After seeing the test you did it shows how reliable the Tri-Ad lock really is. My Engage started getting slight vertical blade play after cutting up some plastic oil containers at work, which surprised me considering it wasn't even an abusive task for an overbuilt type of knife. Cold Steel's classic designs (mostly from Andrew Demko) are my preference over their newer models.

    • @gideonstactical
      @gideonstactical  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good feed back 👍

    • @gideonstactical
      @gideonstactical  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      None of the pins failed. It has to do with the pivot. Too tight in the bar now does not engage and you have all the up-and-down rattle if you back it off the bar will engage but then you have a bunch of side to side rattle. And I can’t get it to operate like you saw in the video prior to batoning.

    • @Hunterssoldier
      @Hunterssoldier ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@gideonstactical On mine the up/down blade play gets better when tightening the pivot, but then it's so stiff the lock doesn't actuate properly. It's only a small amount of wiggle if I deliberately feel for it, but yeah that was just from cutting through hard plastic, no batoning, prying or anything like that.
      Great video as always man. It would be cool to see a similar stress test on a Shark lock from Demko if you ever do one. 👍

    • @techfrank2431
      @techfrank2431 ปีที่แล้ว

      Since you've had experience with this knife, do you consider the shark lock knife better than the atlas lock knife? I'm assuming you know the shark lock knife? It's cause I've just got the atlas lock knife but after seeing this video and reading your comment, it made me consider to get the shark lock knife Since it can withstand better than the atlas lock knife when it comes to heavy work is what I'm looking for.

  • @coldhart79
    @coldhart79 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank u,v very nice and detailed review

  • @ninkendo7714
    @ninkendo7714 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the mechanism, it does remind me of an axis lock with flick. And yes I annoy my family with my fidget knives:) I own the cold steel recon 1 in tanto and yes bomb proof knife!

  • @steventwining1893
    @steventwining1893 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can see buy the design of the lock because of the "u" shaped locking mechanism around 2 pins that the "u" shape could start you spread apart from slamming the top of the blade and causing play.

  • @orendz7740
    @orendz7740 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I haven’t bought a cold steel knife since they sold the company. I wondered how the newer designed knives would hold up. So far I think I will continue to wonder instead of finding out for myself.

    • @MrNiceGuy80x5
      @MrNiceGuy80x5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same, i feel that they did andrew dirty by putting type of lock on the market so soon after his, at least credit the guy

    • @orendz7740
      @orendz7740 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrNiceGuy80x5 exactly. Don’t act like you’re the one that developed this type of lock just because you moved it half an inch to an inch lower. During the shot show interview they made it seem like it was an in-house design.

    • @MrNiceGuy80x5
      @MrNiceGuy80x5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@orendz7740 I’m just happy I was able to pick up some ctsxhp versions when lynn Thompson announced he was selling the company.

    • @orendz7740
      @orendz7740 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrNiceGuy80x5 nice man. I looked for some. Couldn’t find any.

    • @dtester
      @dtester ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@orendz7740 To be fair, there is significant difference from the Sharklock. But yeah, it would be nice if they give the guy a shout out since the Atlas still can be traced back to the Ram-safe and Tri-ad. They do give Demko props quite often when they talk about the Tri-ad.

  • @cristianflorescu2827
    @cristianflorescu2827 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really would not cut or split wood with my pocketknife like you do🤔...and i have cheaper pocketknife.😅 That one is too expensive to do something like that with it. 😱

  • @Supraman7777
    @Supraman7777 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. RIP Cold Steel.

  • @jordantheokay3168
    @jordantheokay3168 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My local hardware store is selling the engage atm. They have been for the last 5 or so months. I looked over to the left of them and went for the range boss, instead. I've been thinking that when I had a little extra jingle, I'd pick it up, but now that I watched your video here, I'll save my money. I already carry ether the range boss and the Espada g10. Or the range boss and an sr1 lite tanto. I think im good for a while but enevitably, in a few months, I'll buy a knife to make myself feel good 😆

  • @centurycity
    @centurycity ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Cold steel SR 1 Lite tri lock folder can take 400lbs of pressure ( 181.43 kilos ) and still not fail. Pretty impressive. Great video on the Atlas Lock many thanks.

  • @Hungrybird474
    @Hungrybird474 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know what’s a sweet ass knife for a slicer but not hard use is the praxis with the gold fleck carbon fiber clear scales on wmk . I think it was $60 and a deal at that imo . The carbon fiber is shiny and parts are matte where the cf is on the surface and it makes the grip so damn good . They nailed it . Or the 2 Migurons , velona and akrI 2 are so well done for 2 sweet knives totaling under $100 with a code . Have a great weekend man . I like to share some good info when I come across decent knives I think people will find value in .

  • @sysmith5436
    @sysmith5436 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What we need is a 4 inch spear point AD10.

  • @donsmith8300
    @donsmith8300 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Heck yeah this test makes me even more happy to edc the cold steel sr1

    • @gideonstactical
      @gideonstactical  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is one huge blade!

    • @donsmith8300
      @donsmith8300 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gideonstactical yeah it's a big knife but it's surprisingly comfortable to carry. I'm having a hard time finding a fixed blade that i like to carry that doesn't bug me. The way I see it, if I forget the knife is on me then it is a great EDC

  • @7storm776
    @7storm776 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the update. I wonder if cold steel knows about this? And improve upon it. Im still a big fan of the triad lock tho…

  • @Hungrybird474
    @Hungrybird474 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s happening Gideon ? Did you ever crack loose the screws above the pivot on the other manix 2 to get better drop action ?

  • @sojourn1544
    @sojourn1544 ปีที่แล้ว

    The pocket clip where it attaches to the knife is not flush with the scales..which will catch on the lip of your pocket on your pants before it seats all the way on the pocket clip...

  • @chudyolo1205
    @chudyolo1205 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thx for it. Stay with backlock:)

  • @edwardschofield6692
    @edwardschofield6692 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good review Aaron it is pocket knife abuse though.Break out the fix blades.Triads are beast.Have fun out there.

  • @OriginalOwner777
    @OriginalOwner777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only folding knife I own that I would trust for a heavy use survival situation is my cold steel ak47 the triad lock system is amazing and it is built like a tank. However I would prefer a good fixed blade for heavy use like battoning ect or even better a hawk.

  • @SonoraSlinger
    @SonoraSlinger ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly, I would love a redo review in the Ontario Utilitac 2 tanto. I think alot of budget knife guys would dig it.

    • @mdubb4855
      @mdubb4855 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Except … who really trusts liner locks anymore.

  • @thealarmclock9307
    @thealarmclock9307 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Demko really put the knife companies in 2nd place with that triad...

  • @SpamMusubi308
    @SpamMusubi308 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you know if you baton wood with a folding knife never fully extend the blade fold the handle to 90° to disengage the lock

  • @BillySAw951
    @BillySAw951 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I had seen the atlas design the shock test in real world use the knife even brand new will disengage forsure and it doesn’t have the longevity like the triad which has some wiggle room to wear down and stay super tight

  • @treychambers3050
    @treychambers3050 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Need to check out the AD20.5 man. Cold Steel basically aped Demko’s Shark Lock in this knife. This is the nockoff his is the OG for this lock concept.

  • @1722blackbart
    @1722blackbart ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Take it apart and see what is failing in the lock. Really curious.

  • @My_Bow_L.Y.F
    @My_Bow_L.Y.F ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Ad 20.5 demko gave me the same kind of blade play up and down. Still super strong but has alot of that clacking sound.

    • @dtester
      @dtester ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting! Seems like these "ram" locks are strong but maybe they don't quite match that self-correcting that the Tri-ad has.

  • @seanwhite304
    @seanwhite304 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd be interested to see if the Atlas is better than Axis or whatever locking system 275 Adamas uses

  • @dalecarpenter8828
    @dalecarpenter8828 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13.57 the triad lock is built to stay tight as it wears !

  • @gingebrien2408
    @gingebrien2408 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gideon a million thanks for this review. I need another knife, like a hole in the wall. But like many I have Knife issues. This knife looked well built and I was considering purchasing one. But In fairness Cold Steel build incredibly strong knives. Absolutely agree the Triad Lock Demko is bomb proof . That’s what we’ve come to expect. The Axis lock is not designed to handle battoning. Looking at this beautiful over built knife, I almost jumped and purchased. But if it looks like a beater but really can’t take it, it looses appeal for me. Cold Steel should consider redoing coming out with a version with a triad lock.

  • @dennisdamenace.8181
    @dennisdamenace.8181 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well maybe if somebody from Cold steel sees this demonstration and some of the failures of the locking system will make it so it doesn't fail. But it's not the same company as when Lynn Thompson had it.

  • @stephangrobler5524
    @stephangrobler5524 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Great vid. How does the atlas lock compare to the shark lock? I believe a demko design will be more reliable.

    • @ZoneCrasher
      @ZoneCrasher ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The best Demko design is still the tri-ad lock.

    • @maxlvledc
      @maxlvledc ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Triad is definitely strongest..but shard does this with zero issues. (I did notice that some models needed to be tuned, small bit of lock bounce but goes straight back into true..and no damage)

    • @stephangrobler5524
      @stephangrobler5524 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dont think the tri-ad lock will ever be knocked off its throne.

    • @Youtube-Censorship-Police
      @Youtube-Censorship-Police ปีที่แล้ว +2

      shark lock sucks too! i had 2 ad20.5, the first one developed vertical play after 2 days of fidgeting and light cutting tasks (mainly food), the 2nd one which i got as a replacement for nr. 1 had even worse lock rock straight out of the box.
      i was really disappointed, sent it back and got a kizer mini begleiter in m390 and fragtanium scales for $30 less and is a way better knife overall.
      btw: one of my ad20.5 had such a bad grind that the blade looked like a recurve lol.

    • @maxlvledc
      @maxlvledc ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TH-cam-Censorship-Police wow! Both of mine and the 4 I traded 4 a while back were solid as a rock. Talk about bad luck!

  • @AlanSpringer2074
    @AlanSpringer2074 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cold steel “Anytime anywhere” Gideon “Bet”

  • @cassanoa
    @cassanoa ปีที่แล้ว

    did you ever try a crkt dead bolt lock seismic - if not - you might like - one hand operation

  • @Firebrand1967
    @Firebrand1967 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Cold Steel, but skeptical about many of the company's GSM offerings. This folder is an albatross.

  • @speedygonzales9993
    @speedygonzales9993 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, the Tri-Ad is better. Tks!, Aaron.

  • @butchhill5656
    @butchhill5656 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will keep my Triad locks. They work fine for me

  • @Prizrak-hv6qk
    @Prizrak-hv6qk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seemed like a strong, interesting and fidgety lock to mess around with and so I bought myself a Cold Steel Karve. It has this bizarre issue, where every five or so flicks, the lock gets stuck and requires quite a bit of thumb force to disengage. Seems to be on the harder flicks. Most of the flicks, the lock is smooth as butter but then I flick a bit harder and it sticks like that. I used KPL on all the contact surfaces and tried to work it loose for an hour. So far - no luck. Then again, my Recon 1 also had a weird intermittent lock stick like that, combined with detent lash afterwards. I almost sent it back but it then just stopped doing that and has been smooth and reliable since. I'm hoping for the same with this Karve. It's a really nice and cool looking knife otherwise.
    UPDATE: I exchanged my Karve for another copy and that one is smooth as butter all the time.

  • @FlukeTog
    @FlukeTog ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cold steel has been fun in the past due to the price point. Like on their axes and old old tanto days. Idk about all this new what price did you say? If I’m going over 100 it’s like esee or vintage US steel maybe more 1950’s schrade there’s no snapping those. BUT it’s cool to see innovation attempts always, glad they take the shots. Oh hey I still carry my manix 2 because of this channel. Still enjoy plenty from cold steel and wish them well. Good point about Taiwan. Maybe I bought the finn wolf because this channel too idk it’s been a while but I like that knife still for $45 or whatever. Hey keep up the good reviews thnx. For $165 it should be made in America with a kiss.

  • @nealrogowski659
    @nealrogowski659 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like someone did a little movement in Mr Demkos notes and tried to make his shark lock move to the middle instead of the intention.

  • @informedcitizen8687
    @informedcitizen8687 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you sent it back will Cold Steel replace or repair it? I'm not sure if the warranty covers that kind of abuse although they should because its marketed as a hard use knife.

  • @griff7749
    @griff7749 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the atlas lock is a good all round lock, like the axis. And I'd say it's still less likely to leave you bleeding than any liner, frame, or button lock, and doesn't have weak omega springs.

  • @murdergorilla4087
    @murdergorilla4087 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Scorpion lock is still my favorite lock ever. Is this basically an ad shark lock

  • @AR-vf7vg
    @AR-vf7vg ปีที่แล้ว

    Micarta could be ADDED piled on top of the G10 ?!
    (Thinking about that - if that could be even better then the total of the Bush Ranger)

  • @somoza8121
    @somoza8121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Aaron I wonder how the shark lock would preform and may the LORD CHRIST JESUS Bless you

  • @andrashavas
    @andrashavas ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This confirms the theory that more elements you add, the less secure it will be as the weakest link will make the lock unstable. Cold steel has to sell something new that's cooler to keep up with the competition. Now that they make the "strongest" lock in the world, what to do? Make an even "better" lock... Well, it seems locks are not everything in a knife world. How about starting to churn out Exclusive Maniago Cold Steel knives with better quality? Zero tolerance has the looks and quality. Extrema Ratio has the brandname and the looks AND quality. Limited editions are also good. But don't you think the "Worlds best lock" is just not good enough? When people buy knives for the feeling, the brand image they want to be associated with and end up with a lock, which is in any case as good as any. You are not abusing your folder anyways, so the strongest lock is just a phrase that breaks down with this new attempt. Or do people associate themselves with overgrown security guys slashing at hanging meat? I think Cold Steel should create a comic-book series or a real story to differentiate itself from the average. How is Victorinox still on the market with the poor slipjoint?

  • @frakismaximus3052
    @frakismaximus3052 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw the top end configuration of the engage in the store and it had side to side play. More than a bit disappointing. Wonder if the coil spring has enough tension on it.

    • @gideonstactical
      @gideonstactical  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So it looks like it Has to do with the pivot and possibly pressure on the spring. The pins and bars itself seem to be OK. If I tighten down the pivot the lock doesn’t engage I have no side to side play but it will not fully engage and get the crazy rattle up and down, if I back off the pivot the lock will fully engage and be tighter up and down but then there’s alot side to side play. Bottom line it still functions and is much stronger than most other locks on the market. But it’s not like it was prior to batoning it would need to be warranty to get it working properly again.

  • @thehebrewyisraeliteinstitu1868
    @thehebrewyisraeliteinstitu1868 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah we definitely have some MASSIVE Play and slight WOBBLE said NO Triad Lock EVER !!!

  • @michaelgold4489
    @michaelgold4489 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its not like you were bashing it with a giant log either seemed like pretty strait foward batonning, shouldnt have caused any damage.

  • @19800891able
    @19800891able ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RECON 1 is the Best for me. (: Thanks for your video.

  • @marcorodriguezmartinez8490
    @marcorodriguezmartinez8490 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For that money if you want that size of knife and you don’t want to go wrong, just get the Spyderco Manix 2 XL

  • @gideonsstuff
    @gideonsstuff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After doing some chopping and other tests with mine, I noticed some wiggle and jiggle as well (though not as bad as yours). Took it apart a couple times, kept using it, and somehow the rattle magically disappeared and the lock up became solid again. No idea why

    • @kevinteran5624
      @kevinteran5624 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Any update ?

    • @gideonsstuff
      @gideonsstuff ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevinteran5624 I still don't know why the jiggle disappeared, but my theory is that I got some grit between the lock and blade or something.
      Not trying to advertise, but I also have a full review of the Engage on my channel.😂

  • @josh33025
    @josh33025 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you take it apart to see what happened?