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- New Daiwa Exist 2022 model! Full review and some of my thoughts as a gear head. Comparisons with the Daiwa Exist 2018 as a benchmark.
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Great review and glad it is actually a different one to the last one. Particularly impressed with your honesty. Would be mighty tempting to just rave on about how good it is. Well done bud. Integrity is everything
Thanks Michael, you are absolutely right
Bro, very very detailed review. Thanks you! It's good knowing the old vs new. So far I've had crazy experiences with the 2022 already on my 1st week.
That's good, making the most of the new toy
I really like this review @Shroom. Really appreciate your unbiased opinion, particularly as you’ve put your money where your mouth is.
With regards to the removal of anti-reverse switch, I think that’s a step forward as it removes an opening where nasties could get in the internals. It’s something I felt was a bit out of place and a bit of a throw back in my 18 Exist, since Shimano has been phasing those switches out on their reels for many years. I wonder if the removal of the anti reverse switch improves the sealing and will help the reel keep its smoothness longer ?
Thanks Alf, that means a lot to me. Yes, I thought about that, it can be a big positive in that regard. I was just thinking in terms of an inshore reel that gets babied a bit but very valid point
Good honest review. The price thing has gotten a bit crazy IMO, this reel is nearly twice as much as a Certate, and 3x more than a Saltist MQ, and both are extremely nice reels. Sure, part of the high price is the snob factor, it's supposed to be expensive and hard to afford so you can feel special. Winemakers worked that out a while ago. For $1150 though, I'd still expect a way better handle, a spare spool, and as you mention some bling. It's nice they managed to make the plastic look metallic, but the plainer it is the more the scuffs and scratches will show up. Nobody buys a sports car and says, hey don't paint it and put in a cheap steering wheel please. BTW, I can afford this reel, but thanks to those who do and fund the R&D for the reels I will buy.
Thanks a lot and it would be nice if they came with a spare spool but unfortunately they don't. They also cost a lot more than a usual spool which is absurd. The price of a spool is as much as a mid range reel!
Great review champion, I have now been a member of the shroom club for 1 years and 3 days, it's been well worth it, as my fishing has improved so much better since watching your tutorials and tips, so happy to support the channel for another year to come, keep up the awesome work Pete, and thank you for making my life and fishing so much better, I hadn't owned a fishing rod for over twenty years, but loved fishing as a youngster, but getting older working and relationships, put fishing on the back burner, and i had only used bait, and never lures, until I came across one of your videos on TH-cam a few years ago, and was instantly interested again, and wanted to try lure fishing, and now it's all i think about, and spend my money on, given me that drive i had when younger, so thanks for your inspiration and help over the last year, and the year before, it's been a pleasure seeing the success you and the Chanel are going through, and all the great guests you have, so thanks again Pete, can't wait to see what is coming over the next years,
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The only other reel in Diawa's lineup that uses AirDrive is the Tatula LT MQ.
Oddly it is priced below the BG MQ but has 2 more bearings than the BG.
Granted the Exist is a lot more $ so you are obviously getting a higher quality product though I do have to say that the Tat MQ is a lot of reel at the price point.
I love my 2500D-XH. I run Invisx 12lb on it.
I may pull the trigger on an Exist eventually though.
More of a want than a need.
The Daiwa 22 Exist LT is really the best reel ATM i have a review in german. Just love my 22 Exist and I'm very happy to got one❤️ thank you for the review
Thank you Lee!
Great review!! Super detailed can't wait till this rain goes. Love that loud drag too. I
Thanks Jorre, I'm pretty satisfied with how this turned out
the bail arm washers are a game changer
Yep, very nice addition Dylan
IMO- Daiwa should have added some gold accents to certain parts of the reel. That would not make the reel look so boring! I am going to get one added to my previous Exist to compare though.
I think these reels are hard to identify from a distance and no one really could tell the quality of the reel unless they knew exactly what these reels are. Gold always helps to indicate class and quality and especially something at the top. Gold = 1st etc.
@@ShroomFishing Most definitely!!!
You can get parts with gold accents to add if you like. Check Hedgehog Studio
Nice one Shroomy, mint reel you have there! Great review!! I was thinking the bail arm may have gone from hollow to solid perhaps?? And the washers may double as seals. In any case it has the XFactor for sure. I’m sure you will love using it. Just one question - will you use Daiwa braid on your Stella?? 😂 👌
Thanks Peter, I'm not sure, I wasn't confident it had become solid but it might be. Haha, I was going to get the Stella but for many reasons I won't be this time unfortunately. I'll have to be content playing with my existing Stellas haha
Very thorough Shroom! Nice work 👊
Thanks as always Thonny! I only wish I could get my hands on the Stella
I do have a Exist18 1000. Is the 22 worth the money? Can I use a 18 spool on the 22?
I'm on my second stella first one bought and returned second I received yesterday with both reels I was and currently am experiencing a knock on retrieval some call it a click feels more like a knock to me. Seriously considering the switch to the exist. Has you or anyone you know experienced a similar knocking issue with either reel ? Thank you
What braid( pe rating and metres on line.) I’m thinking about getting a 2000D-P exist with pe 0.6 200m
Yo shroom does your bail arm where the washer (not on the line roller side) have slight gap ?
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Thanks for the review Shroom.
Thanks Raymund
i was focused on the Exist 22 and visit the store. I had my rod with me. Too fit the most balanced reel, but unfortunately Even the 3000 serie was too light for my rod 😞.
Now i have to search a store for the 4000 serie, but i’m not sure… maybe to go for a Stella 🥴
Makes sense and nothing wrong with a Stella haha
@@ShroomFishing yeah true but i like the looks of a Exist more underneath my rod and matching titanium reel seat.
Great review, Shoom! I actually really like the plain silver look of the 22 Exist, looks very sleek! I love the thicker bail arms of the previous Daiwa reels, sad to see Daiwa moving away from the thick bail arms though.
Yes Hai, I didn't mind the thicker bail arm it just gave the reel character and I knew which reel I was using by feel
What braid are you running on the Exist's- you used to use castaway....would like a video..on your thoughts on braid what to put on high end reels' ..cheers
Trevlin, I'm just trying cheaper braids that people often find in the shops and ask me about. I just want to get some data on it. Castaway is still one of my preferred braids for many reasons. I may talk about it in a podcast or make a video about it in the future
Just look closely at the bail arm opposite the line roller. May daiwa saltiga 5000h has a very big gap about 2mm when the bail is open and 1mm when the bail is closed.
No good, that’s massive
@@ShroomFishing yup, I’ll be posting pictures soon.
Hey shroom, do you think it’s worth the extra money over the certate? I’m just catching trout for the most part (melb based). I’m literally just about to buy a new reel and have my eyes on either the certate or exist
They are both very different reels. Firstly, price is very different and the year model. The Exist just came out whereas the Certate has been around for a few years. Secondly, certate is intended for heavier applications and built accordingly (aluminium body which adds weight). The Exist is lighter and probably a great fit for trout fishing but it's not built to withstand the same trauma that a certate might. One final point which is worth considering is that if weight is a big deal (which it probably is) there are also cheaper options that can do the job (Luvias Airity, Revelry FC, normal Luvias etc.). However, you can't go wrong with either option, the Certate's although heavier aren't nearly as heavy as their predecessors
@@ShroomFishing thanks for the knowledgeable reply shroom, I’ve just ended a run with a luvias (killed it) and I have had a certate in past that was brilliant! My budget currently does allow for an exist, but I am pretty tough on my reels too. I’m wondering if the certate is a smarter option with the maintaining of the reel also. Exist could get very $$$ if I break anything
Sick review bro, tossing up between this and the Stella. Just got a 21 exsense for my micro jigging need something with that strong feeling for bigger stuff. Hmmmm decisions decisions
Thanks Michael. That's a tough decision, can't go wrong with either. That 21 Exsence must be a dream to fish with!
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Hi Shroom, looking to get the same reel, how many 6lb or 8lb braid it fit, does it need alot backing?
I think it will fit over 250 m of 6lb and possibly 8lb depending on thickness. I needed a lot of backing, maybe 40% of the height of spool if that makes sense
You're absolutely right
I love Daiwa products, but realistically I don't think they're trying to justify the price. In fact, I think he's behind Daiwa and the Shimano symbiosis company. Shimano's trying harder, that's obvious. Daiwa protected Magsealed's patent, but everything else is a copy of Shimano
Realistically, I don't think people should buy any further than Daiwa Certata or Shimano Twin power
Yeah when one can buy a used car on classifieds for the same money as this reel, it makes you think!
I'm not thinking anymore. Because I know it's true.
On the contrary, Shimano is trying hard to keep up with Daiwa Exist. They are copying Daiwa features but are lagging behind
They are both awesome reels but I like the old reel better than the new one but it’s not like the last one but I like the 2018 better I like the old style better
22 Exist, the best of the best
Great review! Given that the 2018 Exist having promotion at half the price. Would you recommend to go with 2022 or 2018 model?
Depends if you want the latest or something that is say 95% as good at a huge discount
Where are you seeing this reel for half price?
@@Gio-nl7eg Half Price 😂
Great review, thank you. I hoped you might share your opinion as to the 2500-XH model with the 6.2:1 gear ratio. I normally prefer 3000 sized reels but as you know the gear ratio is only 5.2:1 and it is not being offered in the 3000 with the 6.2:1. I'm leaning toward the 2500-XH, compromising to the smaller spool (and 11 lb. max drag vs like 22 lbs on the 3000D) rather than having to find out over time whether the 5.2:1 speed leaves me disappointed. What are your thoughts regarding these concerns?
Thanks Bruce. I think it's a tough decision when you can't get both requirements and need to pick one or the other. My guess is that the 3000D with 5.2:1 will be a better fit for you if you are used to using 3000 sized spools so long as you're not spinning metals or lures at speed predominantly. If you are spinning metals, the 2500-XH is still not the right reel for you because although it is 6.2:1, chances are it won't be any faster in terms of absolute cm of line retrieval over the 3000D at 5.2:1 because being faster over a smaller spool diameter more or less should balance out with a slower bigger spool if that makes sense. Edit: I found out it's about 10cm difference in winding so a bit bigger difference than I thought so you'll have to weigh that up
@@ShroomFishing Thanks again. Yep, you were right in terms of that 2500 smaller reel - I have some quality 2500 reels, but they're old enough to be deceiving because they were made somewhat larger back then. Once I received the 2500-XH and held it in my hand and turned the handle a bit, I knew right away I wouldn't be happy with it and I returned it. And like a guy whose heart was broken by the one he loved, I withdrew, and bought a Certate. I will revisit the Exist when they figure out that cutting out the CXH model probably wasn't a well thought out decision, and until then I can live without it!
@@bruceraiken2806 Yep, good decision the weight and sizes have changed so much despite the same numbering. The Certate will serve you well though, it's a great reel
11 .lb maximum drag.!!!! On a bream reel. And you fell for it!!!😂
Nice well done presentation Shroom the Exist is a flagship gun reel but id rather get last years model i cant live without a anti reverse if line gets stuck under the spool or under the drag knob on 5lb down to 2lb &you hookup on the drop you may lose fish of a life time...
Thanks George! The previous model is no slouch and the best one to date beside this 22 model which is likely better but yet to stand the test of time! Yes, I think losing out on the anti-reverse or any other functional part is never comforting.
Stuck under the spool or under the drag knob!!!!! Haven't had that happen in 30 years! OMG!
what's better when reeling in a fish, Exist or Stella?
I have no idea because I don't own the new Stella. The older Stellas that I do have, have never let me down though
@@ShroomFishing what about the older Stella's vs this new Exist?
Hola! Es mejor que el Stella?
Hello, is there play on the non-line roller bearing arm side?
No vertical play but some minor horizontal play. It doesn't seem like it's a problem though
Thanks for responding. If that is the case I'm a bit disappointed that the bail arm would be like that for such an expensive reel.
@@asianxiongster There is no play that should not be there
Isn’t this the same video you did next week ??
No, this is the full review video that other one was an unboxing
@@ShroomFishing ahhhh I see 😉
Great review, feels like a flossy Carter type of review. Flagship specs bro, petty rosé vault, you gotta pay to play bro
Thanks bro! Flossy is the goat! Price is TGH!
@@ShroomFishing yeah bro. Sure is. Gonna have to tell the viewers to get there popcorn & get comfortable for one of your videos. Keep ‘em comin. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Hey mate is the diawa infeet base rod 732LGS model ($189) any good with a Shimano Nasci for soft plastics fishing?Cuz I can’t go that expensive,have a pocket money limit.
The daiwa infeet 732 definitely is a good soft plastic rod for its price anyway and the Shimano Nasci seems alright too. Seems like a good setup for bream and flathead to me.
@@lucast5964 thanks mate what about the Samaki Zing gen 3 6-12lb rod?
@@jzfishing103 It really depends on what you are fishing for, the Samaki rod is a bit heavier than the Daiwa infeet rod so it could catch heavier fish with more ease while it would not be as sensitive when catching smaller fish.
@@lucast5964 thanks mate very descriptive guess will go with diawa
@@lucast5964 also I am going on a trip to the entrance and chasing bream and flathead, since the prawn season started,do you reckon a prawn imitation lure would work good?Also,any lure suggestions?
You could litterally but a Shimano twin power for half price and it’s a better looking reel with more drag !
Great reels, I have one
For a $1000 bucks I get to go fishing every day for a whole month with my $150 Shimano rod and real.
Yeah the price is pretty exorbitant, I can somewhat justify it because I made videos but it's still a tough decision
hi bro, what the braid size ur using on the spool?
Thanks
I'm using 6lb Kairiki at the moment Don.
@@ShroomFishing nice work bro 🤝 im a fan from Kuwait City 🇰🇼.
Keep it up
Hey Shroom, I got a potential video idea
You could do a video testing different scents as there are many on the market and lots of people is unsure on what they should get.
Nice idea Lucas, maybe in the future. It's very hard to test scents fairly in a video but I certainly have my favourites
hey shroom now you have a new existt what are going to do with your old one
Probably my boat reel for now, I'll see how it goes
Mate, good video presentation on the reel. I think the reel is massively overpriced in $$s for a reel that has so much plastic in it. For the the $1000+ price tag, it want to be made out of titanium and kevlar. And what if you drop the reel and break the spool, the handle or the main stem. What is the $ price for replacement parts and labour to fix it. Looks a great reel and would last years of use. But for $1000+ price tag, tell them their dreaming. Cheers 👍
Thanks Trevor, the parts only get more expensive from there! I wouldn't mind a titanium reel but imagine the price lol
Cheers Mate.
Lt 2000d -P what is P Mean?
P for power gear Drana
have u ever used bc reel before?
Yes, very rarely but in some of my older videos
Will you buy Stella FK for review?
No longer Will, out of my budget and I had already seen glimpses of people having it already so it would have been risky spending that much for a reel that I would be getting my hands on a lot later and not having the potential to recoup some losses on videos
@@ShroomFishing thanks for your response. Can you please recommend a rod with this reel? Also, would you buy bait cast reel in future ?
Please don't convince me to get one 😆
I tried it in store and so smooth, the start up inertia wow
Yep, it's a tough one ronmb81... I don't blame ya haha
wouldnt buy one when u can get a revelry for half the price and even lighter aswell, has me wacked why this reel is so expensive. take a look they look nicer too
I agree Scott, I caught some fish on the Revelry the other night and it's very smooth. Not quite Exist level but 99% of people would be happy fishing it considering the price savings
What is the D stand for
Deep spool
I know what the pc stand for it’s power custom what I want to know is the pc is it bigger gears are what please explain it for me please thank you
Thank you for the review... now I’m shorting 1 mortgage payment.
Haha dang! They have to make these things cheaper
Looks mint
sure is Nathan
@@ShroomFishing yep
I'll take a saltiga or dogfight instead
Use the back wind to play large fish - understand removing on cheap reel, bot on a $1000 reel?
Yep, personally I'd rather have it than not but there are merits to having it removed
Bought the reel. It was defective. Surprised that flag ship product would be defective out of the box. 2 to 4 weeks for warranty service. Not exactly best customer experience.
Sorry to hear that, what happened? I'm no expert but if you buy a product and it's faulty (i.e., not fit for the purpose that it was intended for), you are covered in Australia for a full refund by consumer laws
Too expansive for me I am only 13 guess a Shimano Nasci would suit me.
Shimano Nasci is a great reel Josh
$1000 for a reel.!! 😲 I'm going for a lie down in a dark room.
Yep, I can see a few people needing a lie down Andrew haha. I might join yous haah
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But it is so expensive ❤❤
Yep, cost an arm Ethan 😮
i still wait for 4000xh arrive
Nice one mate
awwwwwch! to expensive for such a small size reel’
costs an arm Eduardo 😥
cool
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bust up get the dogs
Will be getting plenty on this reel!
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Love your videos man keep it up can u have a look at my videos and drop a comment what u think ❤️❤️
Thank you will do
Your vids are very good mate, i generally watch you and shroom as im just starting on plastics and you both give good info