Spin Industries seeing your Base of operation and how you speak about your craft makes me wish I had enough disposable income to buy a set of your wheels.
@@SpinOnTheseWheelsgood to see your passion for what you do, keep it up! Can you provide some information regarding the rim dimensions (inner and outer width) for the two example 23mm vittoria and continental tires. Cheers from Munich
@@louish.9181 Hi Louis, our current spec Revolution Series rims are 21mm wide internal, measured bead hook to hook - meaning full compatibility and safety when riding both hookless tubeless rated tyres, and with all those great tyres that do require hooked rims. With most conti / vittoria tyres, quoted width 23 will measure 25mm installed, and quoted 25s will measure 27-29mm. With Vittoria at least, true installed widths do vary with specific models. Eg the corsa competitions tend to be roughly +2mm bigger than quoted, versus the corsa control tyres measuring exactly what it says on their sidewalls.
Dude seems like a real stand up guy! I don't know if it's just a selective portion of people you speak/interview/interact with but is seems like to me they are far more accepting and humbled people than the group of riders/shop owners/cyclists in my are in the States. The culture just seems so vastly different. When I got into my local shops here there is just a massive level of arrogance and attitude towards new riders and particularly fixed gear rider (myself for now until I can buy another race/road bike). I get chastised at one of the local shops because I ride with standard road hood brakes on my fixed gear. I explain to them that I ride more high paced (avg 20mph), endurance miles out in the country side than just cruising around the city at a leisurely pace. This usually gets snobbish reactions with things like "you're not a true fixed gear rider unless you ride brakeless and skid stop" even though it's smarter to be able to stop for cars doing 60-70mph cars around blind corners, hedges, and hills with brakes than getting a skid stop wrong and not being able to stop in time. I just wanted to say that keep showing off the good side of cycling and introducing us to people who are helpful to all levels of riders. It's been a real pleasure to get a view of what a supportive cycling culture can produce. Keep up the good work Francis.
This guy is pure craftsman. I am jealous when I see these tools, cuz I would love to know how to repair and build my bike like he does with all of these tools. I guess you can't have everything in life
All I can say is Wow, the knowledge of Spin Industries guru is so insightful. Could watch people like this with such a passion for their craft all day long. As a heavier rider found the advice on deeper wheels very interesting. Thanks for this Francis.
Awesome insight - you get the mix of facts and vlog absolutely bang on in your videos, but I must say your insightful videos like the one with the coach, the bike fit ones and the one on the power meter and now this are really excellent - awesome job keep up the good work!!
What an informative video, really interesting content. Brilliant to see people who are so passionate and knowledgable in their respective fields. Keep them coming!
Wow great video, it is a pleasure to hear someone speak from experience! What a great guy. Opened my eyes a little when he said:" You should get the most fun out of your bike not the least weight!" Brilliant!
My favourite video yet Francis, and what a top bloke! Wish people would support hard working, highly knowledgeable guys like this instead of going to bike shops for a pair of overpriced branded wheels.
Excellent vlog! Good luck on your L2P, hope you enjoy it. I rode L2P in memory of my Dad and as part of fundraising for MacMillan in 2015, I'm planning to do it again next year. It was an amazing and emotional experience
Contentwise, this channel is getting better each days. Entertaining yet educational. Kudos and keep it up! On the flipside, did lawrence miss the train?
Another fantastic VLOG, great content, you ask pertinent questions, and a wheel builder only around the corner from me that I never knew was there, will definitely look them up for next year's race season
oh my gosh....what a great video and super smart guy...wow you're a legend...eye opener ....your doing great stuff...keep it up...entertaining to the max...thank you
Excellent video, the best I'd say! The guy from Spin Industries really does know all there is to know about wheels. It was very informative. I now no that on next bike to take the wheels for a tweak and or buy a new recommended set. Bike fit guy was also good. Perhaps another video showing someone riding before and after fit on same bike and with a before and after wheel change as well.
Hey Francis, I''m a german guy and watching your Blog since a month and enjoy it very much . I Love the bike stuff and get a Road and Mountain bike . The third one is a Road bike Charge to a City bike . The Great your Videos inspire me.and like the British humor.. The Video with the carbon rims was Really interesting. Greetings from Germany 😃
I'd like to highlight how good Drew is. I have a set of his wheels and they are top class. A well known brand of a similar build would be 3 or 4 times the cost. Drew keep it up! Francis awesome as usual
I watched all your Thailand vlogs yesterday whilst on the turbo. Apart from the rain it looked great :) . Enjoyable viewing. ps this one really good as well.
What an awesome video. Drew comes across as a really likeable guy... simpatico! This video has also helped me to decide if I want 30mm or 50mm deep wheels. Thank you.
Absolute awesome video! Not so much time lately to watch videos on TH-cam but you are on my Top List. Maybe I repeat myself: Hope The Maven sees your videos and knows where he needs to get back too.
What a great vid, and just by chance I’ve got my new strada pad 55mm carbon rims being handmade this week, just watching them in their workshop was great cutting and threading the spokes , my wheels are going to look and perform mint on my orro Venturi aero bike. 👍🚴👍 I’m going to have to up my game
I have 2 road bikes,one has a 6deg up 120mm stem,the other a 95mm standard stem non slammed. Both fit really well and importantly are comfortable on long rides. They have different geometry and are 1cm different in frame size.
Well thank you for making my mind up I now know where I'm getting my next wheels from it's sooooo refreshing to listen to sense such a great clip could of watched this guy all day long I have a thing about wheels cheers
great vlog today Francis, im toying with which wheels to buy so im keen to hear what you think of them, i was looking at 303's but your new DM8's look fab...! (Drew seems like a top bloke as well)
This was a really nice one ! Enjoy your brand new wheels ! This could go in the " made with soul" edition . If you can and wish , make another one about the frames ;) Cheers !
I came very close to buying some of his wheels a few weeks back but was too impatient with the waiting time so ended going with a set of Bora 50's instead. My next wheels set will definitely be from him. His prices are realistic too, especially when comparing against Enve, Zipp's and the like.
Thanks for this video, Francis. I ordered some Spin wheels late last year and absolutely love them - my bike is faster, more comfortable and handles so much better. I have only "met" Drew through email, so It was great to see him in his workshop. His personal attention was second to none.
its been bugging me for a bit that James looks familiar but after watching Children Of Men last night, its that he shares features with Clive Owen The passion the SPN guy has reminds me of the guy Maven interviewed about carbon frames a while back. Incredibly passionately and knowledgeable but communicate in terms that makes it easy to digest for the layman
my weight is 230lbs and i was worried about buying 80-90mm deep carbon wheels. but good to know, that, the deeper the wheel, the stronger they are. great vlog!
I don't even want to know what the cost on those were, but that will aid me in picking out my next set of alum wheels. Also no one seems to mention bearings..crap bearing will ruin a wheelset..
The main takeaway from this video is that Moreton has a train station! Didn't realise they even knew the train had been invented! Some great roads round here (Gloucestershire is my manor) - come back to The Shire for a spin!
I think what's crucial to understand is that an honest assessment of one's typical riding conditions is essential in order to make the right decision when purchasing wheels. Yes, on flat-ish terrain, deep rims are clearly stronger because added weight has a much more limited impact, but if you constantly ride in relatively steep terrain, it's just not adapted because of the added weight, which is amplified by the fact that the added weight is rotational weight (which multiplies the impact of that weight by a factor of 3 compared to non rotational bike weight I believe), and as a result I'd say it's counterproductive to use something other than shallow rims in these conditions. In my area for instance (Montreal) literally all that I do is climbing, clearly at speeds slower than 30 km/h, and as an amateur I'm not really concerned with descent speed either, I'm much more interested about the responsiveness of my wheels and I'm concerned about the safety hazard of cross winds on steep climbs and excessive speed descending on busy roads. For the idea of "style" and the "dream" of riding long distances of nicely paved flat-ish roads (which is a VERY elusive dream here in Montreal!) I'd love to have deep rims of course, but realistically in my case shallow rims appear to be much better suited, and as a result I believe they also represent a more efficient investment.
hey Francis can you make a tutorial video with the advice on how to put a tire on wider rims for me it's so much easier to put a tire on older narrower rims
I have fulcrum 7 alloy rim and 23 mm Continental ultra sport and the last 15 cm of tire that sticks on the outside of the rim is really pain in the butt to pull over all the rubber in place tight and secured
How are you liking these now that you've ridden them?Any info on the hubs used? Also, can I ask if you bought these, or did Drew give them to you to review?
Danny Pagano Drew has leng me them, to ride though, not review! I'm not about reviews really. I'm very happy with them, super stiff and feel great. Hubs are Drews own creation too. Braking has been decent, even in the wet and I'm loving how wide the tyres sit. Comfy.
Thanks! Do you know if he produces the rims too? or are they manufactured elsewhere. I'm looking for some new wheels and these are near the top of my list to try out. Thanks for all the videos, I've been catching up and watching all the old ones since I found your channel right near end of Chris's 107 challenge.
This is so right. I got given a pair of old Roval Alpanista's 1kg for a wheelset ... I also have a pair of 50mm Campy Bora's from Movistar at 1.5kg. Yes the Roval's takes my weight down significantly and on the North Downs snotty 20+% climbs they are great .... but you get over about 30km an hour and the Alpanista's hum you can feel the drag and also you can't throw the bike around they are noodles. Admittedly we are talking 2010 tech' and I love taking them out on a mega hilly route ... but the Bora's win hands down.
Hey Francis, thanks so much for coming all the way out here to the sticks... and for making your own wheels! Enjoy the ride fella...
Spin Industries seeing your Base of operation and how you speak about your craft makes me wish I had enough disposable income to buy a set of your wheels.
Gazpalli cheers dude!
@@SpinOnTheseWheelsgood to see your passion for what you do, keep it up!
Can you provide some information regarding the rim dimensions (inner and outer width) for the two example 23mm vittoria and continental tires.
Cheers from Munich
@@louish.9181 Hi Louis, our current spec Revolution Series rims are 21mm wide internal, measured bead hook to hook - meaning full compatibility and safety when riding both hookless tubeless rated tyres, and with all those great tyres that do require hooked rims. With most conti / vittoria tyres, quoted width 23 will measure 25mm installed, and quoted 25s will measure 27-29mm. With Vittoria at least, true installed widths do vary with specific models. Eg the corsa competitions tend to be roughly +2mm bigger than quoted, versus the corsa control tyres measuring exactly what it says on their sidewalls.
This so rad!!!
Dude seems like a real stand up guy! I don't know if it's just a selective portion of people you speak/interview/interact with but is seems like to me they are far more accepting and humbled people than the group of riders/shop owners/cyclists in my are in the States.
The culture just seems so vastly different. When I got into my local shops here there is just a massive level of arrogance and attitude towards new riders and particularly fixed gear rider (myself for now until I can buy another race/road bike). I get chastised at one of the local shops because I ride with standard road hood brakes on my fixed gear. I explain to them that I ride more high paced (avg 20mph), endurance miles out in the country side than just cruising around the city at a leisurely pace. This usually gets snobbish reactions with things like "you're not a true fixed gear rider unless you ride brakeless and skid stop" even though it's smarter to be able to stop for cars doing 60-70mph cars around blind corners, hedges, and hills with brakes than getting a skid stop wrong and not being able to stop in time.
I just wanted to say that keep showing off the good side of cycling and introducing us to people who are helpful to all levels of riders. It's been a real pleasure to get a view of what a supportive cycling culture can produce. Keep up the good work Francis.
Thanks so much Colin. It's an overwhelmingly positive scene here in London at least!
I could listen to him talk about wheels all day.
Excellent video. Your wheel builder raises some great points and explained his thinking clearly and without hyperbole. Good job!
This guy is pure craftsman. I am jealous when I see these tools, cuz I would love to know how to repair and build my bike like he does with all of these tools. I guess you can't have everything in life
Love your work Francis and this is one of your best yet IMO. Many thanks.
All I can say is Wow, the knowledge of Spin Industries guru is so insightful. Could watch people like this with such a passion for their craft all day long. As a heavier rider found the advice on deeper wheels very interesting. Thanks for this Francis.
Awesome insight - you get the mix of facts and vlog absolutely bang on in your videos, but I must say your insightful videos like the one with the coach, the bike fit ones and the one on the power meter and now this are really excellent - awesome job keep up the good work!!
One short informative video about wheels, 30years of substantial wheel knowledge. Mind blown!!! Thank you so much, Francis. This is dope! 🙉
The born of BIKEFITTUESDAY!
What an informative video, really interesting content. Brilliant to see people who are so passionate and knowledgable in their respective fields. Keep them coming!
I've been waiting all day to get home and watch your video. Man, you never disappoint!!! Great job as usual!!
Wow great video, it is a pleasure to hear someone speak from experience! What a great guy. Opened my eyes a little when he said:" You should get the most fun out of your bike not the least weight!" Brilliant!
My favourite video yet Francis, and what a top bloke! Wish people would support hard working, highly knowledgeable guys like this instead of going to bike shops for a pair of overpriced branded wheels.
thanks Francis to share the art of this man... Best
Excellent vlog! Good luck on your L2P, hope you enjoy it. I rode L2P in memory of my Dad and as part of fundraising for MacMillan in 2015, I'm planning to do it again next year. It was an amazing and emotional experience
Oh My!!! What a great explanation and deep understanding of his craft! Thanks a million for this video Francis 👏
Contentwise, this channel is getting better each days. Entertaining yet educational. Kudos and keep it up! On the flipside, did lawrence miss the train?
Another fantastic VLOG, great content, you ask pertinent questions, and a wheel builder only around the corner from me that I never knew was there, will definitely look them up for next year's race season
oh my gosh....what a great video and super smart guy...wow you're a legend...eye opener ....your doing great stuff...keep it up...entertaining to the max...thank you
Excellent video, the best I'd say! The guy from Spin Industries really does know all there is to know about wheels. It was very informative. I now no that on next bike to take the wheels for a tweak and or buy a new recommended set. Bike fit guy was also good. Perhaps another video showing someone riding before and after fit on same bike and with a before and after wheel change as well.
Great video. Make the wheel guy a regular guest for questions and answers segments.
Excellent informative video Francis, Drew is a real craftsman and I learned so much from this 18 minutes !
Hey Francis,
I''m a german guy and watching your Blog since a month and enjoy it very much .
I Love the bike stuff and get a Road and Mountain bike . The third one is a Road bike Charge to a City bike .
The Great your Videos inspire me.and like the British humor..
The Video with the carbon rims was Really interesting.
Greetings from Germany 😃
fantastic video Francis - great insight into the wheels.
A very good video. Liked the behind the scenes look at spinonthese, thanks 🙏
I'd like to highlight how good Drew is. I have a set of his wheels and they are top class. A well known brand of a similar build would be 3 or 4 times the cost. Drew keep it up! Francis awesome as usual
Awesome video Francis, so much good interesting information. Keep them coming.
Nice one, really interesting stuff.
Excellent video. That guy is a legend!
I watched all your Thailand vlogs yesterday whilst on the turbo. Apart from the rain it looked great :) . Enjoyable viewing. ps this one really good as well.
Very informative...loved this one!
What an awesome video. Drew comes across as a really likeable guy... simpatico! This video has also helped me to decide if I want 30mm or 50mm deep wheels. Thank you.
I really enjoyed that. Quality vlog once again!
+MrBirdman thank you doooode!
Francis Cade No probs mate, good luck on your ride to Paris.
Absolute awesome video!
Not so much time lately to watch videos on TH-cam but you are on my Top List.
Maybe I repeat myself: Hope The Maven sees your videos and knows where he needs to get back too.
Great video Francis.
+Ben Towell cheers Ben
What a great vid, and just by chance I’ve got my new strada pad 55mm carbon rims being handmade this week, just watching them in their workshop was great cutting and threading the spokes , my wheels are going to look and perform mint on my orro Venturi aero bike. 👍🚴👍 I’m going to have to up my game
Fantastic info from two experts! Thanks for the great content.
Great video, Francis. Two very interesting segments there - bike fit errors and wheel selection. I may just have to pay a visit to Spin Industries!
I have 2 road bikes,one has a 6deg up 120mm stem,the other a 95mm standard stem non slammed.
Both fit really well and importantly are comfortable on long rides.
They have different geometry and are 1cm different in frame size.
Ace vlog mate, loved this one.
Well thank you for making my mind up I now know where I'm getting my next wheels from it's sooooo refreshing to listen to sense such a great clip could of watched this guy all day long I have a thing about wheels cheers
fascinating vid. thanks man. keep em coming
+Matthew Ives cheers!
Every day an interesting theme, interaction and people ... like always ... keep having fun my friend, greats from chile as always
Fascinating listening to experts. Thanks for sharing👍
great vlog today Francis, im toying with which wheels to buy so im keen to hear what you think of them, i was looking at 303's but your new DM8's look fab...! (Drew seems like a top bloke as well)
interesting. enjoy riding them, I guess we will see a review shortly :-) I just purchased older Cosmic SLS and first ride was like WOW :-)
Epic! loved this dude, he had some really good points and explantations! legend him!
+CARB GOD he is a legend!
Loved this one, wheel guy was great, would love to see more conversations like this from local cycling businesses.
That guy is awesome
This was a really nice one ! Enjoy your brand new wheels ! This could go in the " made with soul" edition . If you can and wish , make another one about the frames ;) Cheers !
Be it known, this is the origin story of Bike Fit Tuesday. A turning point in history.
I came very close to buying some of his wheels a few weeks back but was too impatient with the waiting time so ended going with a set of Bora 50's instead. My next wheels set will definitely be from him. His prices are realistic too, especially when comparing against Enve, Zipp's and the like.
That was very very interesting. excellent video.
Really good vlog Francis very interesting stuff 👍
Great video Francis - content AND style 👌
So enjoyed this
Awesome vid! Think I know where I'm going for my next wst :)
He worked with Ide Shelling 4 years ago. Pretty cool seeing him in TDF this year :)
Nice wheels ! wich one are you holding at 16:03?
Damn Super cool dude... I guess all wheel builders are 😂 Now I want some Spin on these!
Excellent Vlog, I feel like I learned something today by watching this :)
Excellent video, man.
This is the coolest bike fitter ever! Of course one can just listen to their own body and know what works best 🤙🏼
Thanks for this video, Francis. I ordered some Spin wheels late last year and absolutely love them - my bike is faster, more comfortable and handles so much better. I have only "met" Drew through email, so It was great to see him in his workshop. His personal attention was second to none.
That was really interesting with your interview with Drew on wheels, very cool, thanks!
+Tower Runner very cool dude!
its been bugging me for a bit that James looks familiar but after watching Children Of Men last night, its that he shares features with Clive Owen
The passion the SPN guy has reminds me of the guy Maven interviewed about carbon frames a while back. Incredibly passionately and knowledgeable but communicate in terms that makes it easy to digest for the layman
+chriszanf haha! He is very good. Down to earth and not snobby at all.
wow what a privilege. I really enjoyed this video and enjoy the passion
A really interesting video. The wheels look great too, It would be good to build your own wheels
Really great video. Keep it up
That bike with the orange forks and white bartape is something to behold.
Like, i want a poster of it on my wall.
Great video. Great info. Thanks
Yowza....awesome vid, bicycle 101.
my weight is 230lbs and i was worried about buying 80-90mm deep carbon wheels. but good to know, that, the deeper the wheel, the stronger they are. great vlog!
best guest slot ever.
FINALLY. About time I find the origin of Bike fit Tuesdays.
😂😂😂
I don't even want to know what the cost on those were, but that will aid me in picking out my next set of alum wheels. Also no one seems to mention bearings..crap bearing will ruin a wheelset..
The main takeaway from this video is that Moreton has a train station! Didn't realise they even knew the train had been invented!
Some great roads round here (Gloucestershire is my manor) - come back to The Shire for a spin!
Superb Wheel Builder , chapeau
I’d be curious to know how that wheel set turned out for you mate.
I think what's crucial to understand is that an honest assessment of one's typical riding conditions is essential in order to make the right decision when purchasing wheels. Yes, on flat-ish terrain, deep rims are clearly stronger because added weight has a much more limited impact, but if you constantly ride in relatively steep terrain, it's just not adapted because of the added weight, which is amplified by the fact that the added weight is rotational weight (which multiplies the impact of that weight by a factor of 3 compared to non rotational bike weight I believe), and as a result I'd say it's counterproductive to use something other than shallow rims in these conditions. In my area for instance (Montreal) literally all that I do is climbing, clearly at speeds slower than 30 km/h, and as an amateur I'm not really concerned with descent speed either, I'm much more interested about the responsiveness of my wheels and I'm concerned about the safety hazard of cross winds on steep climbs and excessive speed descending on busy roads. For the idea of "style" and the "dream" of riding long distances of nicely paved flat-ish roads (which is a VERY elusive dream here in Montreal!) I'd love to have deep rims of course, but realistically in my case shallow rims appear to be much better suited, and as a result I believe they also represent a more efficient investment.
Excellent video,
hey Francis can you make a tutorial video with the advice on how to put a tire on wider rims for me it's so much easier to put a tire on older narrower rims
+They Live We Sleep I find it much much easier on a wide rim. What tyre and wheel combination are you attempting?!
I have fulcrum 7 alloy rim and 23 mm Continental ultra sport and the last 15 cm of tire that sticks on the outside of the rim is really pain in the butt to pull over all the rubber in place tight and secured
Great video, more like this please/
Nice Videos! With what camera are you filming on the Bike? Good sound though and good quality!!!!
How are you liking these now that you've ridden them?Any info on the hubs used? Also, can I ask if you bought these, or did Drew give them to you to review?
Danny Pagano Drew has leng me them, to ride though, not review! I'm not about reviews really. I'm very happy with them, super stiff and feel great. Hubs are Drews own creation too. Braking has been decent, even in the wet and I'm loving how wide the tyres sit. Comfy.
Thanks! Do you know if he produces the rims too? or are they manufactured elsewhere. I'm looking for some new wheels and these are near the top of my list to try out. Thanks for all the videos, I've been catching up and watching all the old ones since I found your channel right near end of Chris's 107 challenge.
OLD VIDEO.. BUT STILL VERY INFORMATIVE. THANKS A LOT
what glasses are you using ?
This is so right. I got given a pair of old Roval Alpanista's 1kg for a wheelset ... I also have a pair of 50mm Campy Bora's from Movistar at 1.5kg. Yes the Roval's takes my weight down significantly and on the North Downs snotty 20+% climbs they are great .... but you get over about 30km an hour and the Alpanista's hum you can feel the drag and also you can't throw the bike around they are noodles. Admittedly we are talking 2010 tech' and I love taking them out on a mega hilly route ... but the Bora's win hands down.
new wheels day, always a happy day!!
Momentum comes from weight + power . However weight plays a huge part in hill climbing and acceleration .
great wheel info, thx
hi Francis. can you do an honest review of those beautiful wheels
This is cycling knowledge gold!
Fantastic video
thanks!
Awesome video. What camera do you use when you're filming?
Awesome video!!! Get wealth of knowledge
What a top guy he was!
i already feel a big aero/stiffness benefit from h son tb 14 (dura ace hubs) to mavic ellipse wheelset...
In an alternate universe, pro riders would be tucked into bed with stories about carbon wheels and aero spokes from Uncle Drew.