Off hand, I would point out two problem areas. 1) many devices have overheating issues if either the plug has not full contact or the wire has defects. That’s usually the first thing I check 2) the charging enhancer might not know that your 12v outlet can only supply 8-10amps. Either can cause damage. On new products I’d recommend keeping an eye on it.
I have the same setup as you, although I have never used my D050S with my EB150 as of yet. I found something interesting after watching your video. On the D050S it clearly states: "DC Input: 12-60VDC, 10A MAX" When I pulled the fuse out of the D050S 12v "cigarette lighter" adapter on my unit I found a 15A fuse, which is FIVE AMPS ABOVE THE STATED MAXIMUM CURRENT CAPACITY. I will be replacing the 15A fuse with a 10A before I attempt to use it. Most car 12v accessory ports are usually fused at 10A, so I have to wonder why the fuse to your car 12v port did not blow first (there may be some car 12v ports rated for 15A). The EB150 requires at least 19V DC as input voltage and that is why you cannot just plug a 12v charging cable directly into the unit. After spending the $150plus for the D050S, I later found out that I could have bought and wired-up a simple 12VDC / 24VDC 10A DC - DC "step-up" transformer for about $35 that would have allowed me to charge my EB150 safely from a 12v cigarette outlet. I made this very adapter as highlighted on another TH-cam video and it works fine - just slow charging at 120W. However, even the Bulettia D050S cannot charge any faster as 120W is all you can draw from a 12V - 10A line: 12Volts x 10Amps = 120Watts If you double the voltage to 24V (above the EB150 19V minimum), the amperage must be reduced by half (5A). Try to draw anything more than 120W out of a standard 12V -10A port and one of the 10A fuses should blow - that is why they are there. The real "value"" of the D050S unit is on later model higher end Buletti units. Unlike our EB150 era units, these devices have separate solar charging and DC power inputs. On these HE units you can max out the solar panel input to the solar port, THEN connect the D050S to the DC power port of the HE Buletti and then additional solar panels to the D050S, thus expanding the amount of solar charging above the stated maximum for that HE Buletti unit. This is because later model HE Buletti units can accept both solar charging and DC charging at the same time. The D050S has an internal solar controller built into it, front ending the additional solar panels connected to the D050S. The only thing a D050S can do for a EB150 unit that I can figure out is to provide slow 12v charging. That is why attaching a properly sized 12VDC / 120VAC PURE SINE WAVE Inverter to a car - rated for the capacity needed for the EB150 power brick - is the way to go. It is the only way to get the fasted charging possible. Had I fully understood the above at the time, I would NEVER have bought the D050S! -
Hey. wondering if you've heard anything back yet on your issues? I find it strange how when I TH-cam car charging with the enhancer there's almost no videos on it. The only videos are of people using it with solar panels whereas I would like to use it both ways like you do. I know the purpose of this is for ease of Plug and Play but I was wondering if you ditch that cheesy cigarette lighter plug and hardwire a decent gauge wire from your Jeep battery to a xt90 plug. This way you plug the enhancer directly into a xt90 plug that goes straight to your Jeep battery...Also curious what kind of charging rate you were getting off your Jeep when it heated up?
Bluetti is playing with fire sending that Charging enhancer with a cigarette lighter option. The connection quality from that type of plug is dodgy to begin with, then you start dealing with the socket diameters varying between vehicles. I've seen some pretty loose fits. I saw the guy from Waveform Science put this enhancer through its paces. At 12V, the current draw was about 10A, which should only make that cable slightly warm. Perhaps there was a bad connection either at the socket or inside the plug itself. Still, even if that part is OK, I don't trust that setup enough to leave it unattended. The charging enhancer behaves like an MPPT controller...therefore, without any contrary programming it has the potential to try to output it's full-rated power regardless of input voltage. Let's round down to the nearest 100 and say it's trying to output 400W (very conservative).. With only 12V at the input, that's 30+ amps it would try to pull through that tiny 12V cable. I'm not saying it's normal operation according to programming of that particular unit but the potential is there. It's much safer to go straight to the battery with something fused at about 10A. Hearing you talking about the deformed spring in the plug sound's like you've had some arching and sparking going on inside of the plug or between the socket and the plug. Still radio silence from Bluetti? I've not heard great things about their customer service.
I contacted bluetti to get specifics on this enhancer, I know it's main focus is to allow extra charging to larger units who have separate solar charging ports and allows extra panels to plug into 7909 input but I wanted to know if it will enhance a single pv200 performance. I just bought the ac180. Any info would be great, guy I talked to didn't even know their products! The guy literally told me he didn't think it plugged into a solar panel and I said the pic literally shows it hooking up to a solar panel.
@kilswitch4336 thanks for the comment! I can confirm it does plug into a solar panel through an adapter that is provided. As far as enhancing, I do not see much of a gain. I do not see spikes in the voltage output anymore. So to me it cleans up the signal coming into your unit which seems safer but again my experience is limited. I have only put 200 watts of solar through it because we have 2 100 watt panels. Hope this helps!
Have you heard back anything from Bluetti on the D050S yet? I do ministry work and was planning to use the D050S I’d purchased to power my AC200P. Thanks in advance and thanks for the honest review. I’ve been happy with my Bluetti products as well to date, and have three of their solar generators.
Most of the bluetti products are good, the eb150 and 240 are great but no longer made or sold by bluetti. Customer service is very lacking. Pecron has units for about the same price, I just got the pecron e2000 and it is great so far, does not have a UPS feature just like most Bluetti products but does passthrough charging. I thought about buying one of these but never did. Don't know how often this happens when charging from a car, but it sounds like it pulled way too much power, which would usually trip the fuse in the car. Did it still work from solar afterwards?
When did you buy it? I got one recently and mine works great. I noticed mine was delivered in a white box versus your brown box. More recent model?????
DO NOT rely on getting more that 10amps out of ANY Car Cigarette lighter (12VOLT DC Socket!!! They are rated to 12Volts at 10amps MAX and the wiring feeding those sockets in you are is MUCH smaller that you will need in order for the charge enhancer to do its job properly and safely Simple math on the Outpu will show you need 12Volt 20+amps input to get the output of ~50Volts at 450watts. 8AWG would be the Minimum Size to use in your vehicle and then a protected direct to Car Battery connection with an XT90 Connector on that wire end.
Bluetti Finally came through with a replacement last month (white Box). I will be taking it with me on a camping trip this week in NH so we will see but I do know my burnt up DO50S was one of the first production runs. I will let you know how it did soon.
Is a bit confusing, it looks to me that you have an issue with the power supply cable These connectors are prone to have problems while driving due to vibrations. As with fridges and the like. Did you try a fixed connection with a fuse of 10A? Those supply cables are mostly rated 8-10A max because of overheating with high amps. Bit unfair with blaming you should know this.
Off hand, I would point out two problem areas.
1) many devices have overheating issues if either the plug has not full contact or the wire has defects. That’s usually the first thing I check
2) the charging enhancer might not know that your 12v outlet can only supply 8-10amps.
Either can cause damage. On new products I’d recommend keeping an eye on it.
I have the same setup as you, although I have never used my D050S with my EB150 as of yet.
I found something interesting after watching your video. On the D050S it clearly states:
"DC Input: 12-60VDC, 10A MAX"
When I pulled the fuse out of the D050S 12v "cigarette lighter" adapter on my unit I found a 15A fuse, which is FIVE AMPS ABOVE THE STATED MAXIMUM CURRENT CAPACITY.
I will be replacing the 15A fuse with a 10A before I attempt to use it.
Most car 12v accessory ports are usually fused at 10A, so I have to wonder why the fuse to your car 12v port did not blow first (there may be some car 12v ports rated for 15A).
The EB150 requires at least 19V DC as input voltage and that is why you cannot just plug a 12v charging cable directly into the unit.
After spending the $150plus for the D050S, I later found out that I could have bought and wired-up a simple 12VDC / 24VDC 10A DC - DC "step-up" transformer for about $35 that would have allowed me to charge my EB150 safely from a 12v cigarette outlet.
I made this very adapter as highlighted on another TH-cam video and it works fine - just slow charging at 120W.
However, even the Bulettia D050S cannot charge any faster as 120W is all you can draw from a 12V - 10A line:
12Volts x 10Amps = 120Watts
If you double the voltage to 24V (above the EB150 19V minimum), the amperage must be reduced by half (5A).
Try to draw anything more than 120W out of a standard 12V -10A port and one of the 10A fuses should blow - that is why they are there.
The real "value"" of the D050S unit is on later model higher end Buletti units. Unlike our EB150 era units, these devices have separate solar charging and DC power inputs. On these HE units you can max out the solar panel input to the solar port, THEN connect the D050S to the DC power port of the HE Buletti and then additional solar panels to the D050S, thus expanding the amount of solar charging above the stated maximum for that HE Buletti unit.
This is because later model HE Buletti units can accept both solar charging and DC charging at the same time. The D050S has an internal solar controller built into it, front ending the additional solar panels connected to the D050S.
The only thing a D050S can do for a EB150 unit that I can figure out is to provide slow 12v charging.
That is why attaching a properly sized 12VDC / 120VAC PURE SINE WAVE Inverter to a car - rated for the capacity needed for the EB150 power brick - is the way to go. It is the only way to get the fasted charging possible.
Had I fully understood the above at the time, I would NEVER have bought the D050S!
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Hey. wondering if you've heard anything back yet on your issues? I find it strange how when I TH-cam car charging with the enhancer there's almost no videos on it. The only videos are of people using it with solar panels whereas I would like to use it both ways like you do. I know the purpose of this is for ease of Plug and Play but I was wondering if you ditch that cheesy cigarette lighter plug and hardwire a decent gauge wire from your Jeep battery to a xt90 plug. This way you plug the enhancer directly into a xt90 plug that goes straight to your Jeep battery...Also curious what kind of charging rate you were getting off your Jeep when it heated up?
Bluetti is playing with fire sending that Charging enhancer with a cigarette lighter option. The connection quality from that type of plug is dodgy to begin with, then you start dealing with the socket diameters varying between vehicles. I've seen some pretty loose fits. I saw the guy from Waveform Science put this enhancer through its paces. At 12V, the current draw was about 10A, which should only make that cable slightly warm. Perhaps there was a bad connection either at the socket or inside the plug itself. Still, even if that part is OK, I don't trust that setup enough to leave it unattended. The charging enhancer behaves like an MPPT controller...therefore, without any contrary programming it has the potential to try to output it's full-rated power regardless of input voltage. Let's round down to the nearest 100 and say it's trying to output 400W (very conservative).. With only 12V at the input, that's 30+ amps it would try to pull through that tiny 12V cable. I'm not saying it's normal operation according to programming of that particular unit but the potential is there. It's much safer to go straight to the battery with something fused at about 10A. Hearing you talking about the deformed spring in the plug sound's like you've had some arching and sparking going on inside of the plug or between the socket and the plug. Still radio silence from Bluetti? I've not heard great things about their customer service.
I contacted bluetti to get specifics on this enhancer, I know it's main focus is to allow extra charging to larger units who have separate solar charging ports and allows extra panels to plug into 7909 input but I wanted to know if it will enhance a single pv200 performance. I just bought the ac180. Any info would be great, guy I talked to didn't even know their products! The guy literally told me he didn't think it plugged into a solar panel and I said the pic literally shows it hooking up to a solar panel.
@kilswitch4336 thanks for the comment! I can confirm it does plug into a solar panel through an adapter that is provided. As far as enhancing, I do not see much of a gain. I do not see spikes in the voltage output anymore. So to me it cleans up the signal coming into your unit which seems safer but again my experience is limited. I have only put 200 watts of solar through it because we have 2 100 watt panels. Hope this helps!
Have you heard back anything from Bluetti on the D050S yet? I do ministry work and was planning to use the D050S I’d purchased to power my AC200P. Thanks in advance and thanks for the honest review. I’ve been happy with my Bluetti products as well to date, and have three of their solar generators.
Most of the bluetti products are good, the eb150 and 240 are great but no longer made or sold by bluetti. Customer service is very lacking. Pecron has units for about the same price, I just got the pecron e2000 and it is great so far, does not have a UPS feature just like most Bluetti products but does passthrough charging. I thought about buying one of these but never did. Don't know how often this happens when charging from a car, but it sounds like it pulled way too much power, which would usually trip the fuse in the car. Did it still work from solar afterwards?
He may have hot wired (from battery) to a Sig plug with no fuse ? - still the enhancer should regulated it's amps (?)
No Hot wiring involved it is the standard 12v plug in the back of a jeep JKU Sahara.
hey, can this be connected to split charge relay and then to to bluetti itself?
When did you buy it? I got one recently and mine works great. I noticed mine was delivered in a white box versus your brown box. More recent model?????
DO NOT rely on getting more that 10amps out of ANY Car Cigarette lighter (12VOLT DC Socket!!! They are rated to 12Volts at 10amps MAX and the wiring feeding those sockets in you are is MUCH smaller that you will need in order for the charge enhancer to do its job properly and safely Simple math on the Outpu will show you need 12Volt 20+amps input to get the output of ~50Volts at 450watts. 8AWG would be the Minimum Size to use in your vehicle and then a protected direct to Car Battery connection with an XT90 Connector on that wire end.
Any updates on this?
Bluetti Finally came through with a replacement last month (white Box). I will be taking it with me on a camping trip this week in NH so we will see but I do know my burnt up DO50S was one of the first production runs. I will let you know how it did soon.
@@northeast3604How did the new unit work out for you?
Is a bit confusing, it looks to me that you have an issue with the power supply cable These connectors are prone to have problems while driving due to vibrations. As with fridges and the like. Did you try a fixed connection with a fuse of 10A? Those supply cables are mostly rated 8-10A max because of overheating with high amps. Bit unfair with blaming you should know this.
Blew the fuse in both my enhancers I made the mistake of plugging it into my 200 max first. did it twice 😂😂😂and blew the internal 15amp ceramic fuse.