Just discovered you last night, I'm a returning player to bannerlord & I love smithing, I appreciate the amount of care regarding the detail that you put into the information, you've earned yourself a subscriber & I hope you keep doing good work, mount & blade is a good series & I hope it doesn't die out anytime soon.
I think that something people do not really take into account when they look at Smithing and regard it as "easy" money is the Game Time vs real time. You are spending a great deal of game calendar doing it. I think in terms of in game time vs clicking waiting in town a shit ton you can make that money by putting a few points in Rogery and killing people. It just feels easy because a lot of it is doing nothing but watching the sun get out of the way of the moon over and over.
@@hero_on_youtubecertainly. I just wish the devs had done something to balance out smithing. Or made smithing a bit more realistic (ie, you can't start out as the Kalashnikov of two handed swords). My thought was to put strength requirements on weapons and armor. Plate armor should he a 7 or 8 strength requirement to move and fight in and a two-handed sword would be 6 or more. This way at least you can't just dump strength and rely on elite crafted gear to carry you. And it'd be realistic since you need to be pretty strong to move and fight in plate armor.
My smith is always companion. He starts with 70 points while you start with 0. I go up to Seonon. Gather 20 recruit (against bandits). Than a few trade runs to Marunath overburdened. This way you will have a few thousand very quickly to buy local cheap wood and ore. My companion focusing on learning parts, forging and smelting and my main helps him refining.
@@rockybalboa5611 It's very useful to get your preferred weapons to your companions with decent damage early on. For example I use swing 2handed polearm and javelin. You don't get decent ones early game unless you smith it. When I got those I usually take a break from smithing for awhile too.
@@the_white_rabbit you need to level up your companion's and bow is much safe. When sister is eligable than you can find good stock of pugio/tribesman. When brother is eligable there are 100+ each town. I do only orders+dagger quest early game. But I agree if you get throwing polearm lvl 3 game starts became easy.
@@rockybalboa5611 I don't play campaign only sandbox. Throwing is for companions and tournaments. Aserai and Khuzait tournaments are easiest (for me). In battle I use bow too.
also at the start when you hit poros, they have hogs and sheep you can buy in town and still make money on them, little lower profit but its still more profit
@@Flesson19 I checked, when I clicked on the Hogs to slaughter them, it opened up the Hogs on the Trader's side. There were 30+ over there. I completely missed that while playing.
To get wood buy all the weapons costing under 100 and make a route between the nearest wood producing villages. Keep a few tools with you for the mission to give 2 tools for their wood at the wood villages.
javelins are easier and cheaper to learn and make than 2h sword or polearms, they easily will sell for 35k plus once you get the skill for -50% trade penalty on crafted weapons. all you need do is give them the best parts and max out their size and voila, easily making 150k+ in a day
@@jDoinkz I see. I spent 23-ish in-game days to unlock the 2h sword parts, starting from day one. At that point, I could just start buying javs and unlock them all quickly, but 2h polearms can provide more valuable weapons, so that is the direction I go in.
@@hero_on_youtube I think in-game days matter only if you are going for some sort of record breaking. Real time is a lot more valuable. If you have any skills in fighting tourneys you could also win some for some easy prize money. I found khuzait tourneys the easiest as you get easy 1 on 1 fights at the end (usually javelins). If you also save scum a little, you could get a 15k horse as a prize and you're all set for money. They also have some good hardwood villages. I just restarted playing bannerlord since the 1.2 change and remembered how easy it all gets fast. I haven't even made my kingdom, already more than 3 mil 170 army full of khuzait and battanian special troops, Svana and Silvind as my wife and my brother's. It's all getting boring pretty fast unfortunately. Any good mods that make the game interesting again? Smithing has taken the fun out of it (but knowing it exists I can't play without it).
I like endurance 3 or 4 and 5 points in Smithing for everyone - because it gets you the stat increases down the chain. 150 Vigor or Control, 225 Endurance. You CAN get there with patience for most companions.
I rarely keep the smiths that I get early. Unless it's an actual companion that start with smithing. I usually spend all their focus and attribute points to raise smithing, so they are pretty useless to me for other purposes.
@@hero_on_youtube Totally get it; I don't do a great job developing companions, I usually just grab whoever is of the culture I need to placate the conquests and toss them as governor, or make them into stone-cold killers with a dash of leadership, so I barely notice wasting points on Endurance/smithing. Last run I got lucky and Garvy(?) the Smith was the first companion I found. Otherwise, depending how early you find a spouse, I don't mind making her my partner in smithing - the early money is too good, and I can absorb wasting 4 points in smithing.
Smithing is the broken $$$$ way to go! I smith like crazy as soon as can and I'm always a multi-multi-millionaire by the time the game ends. Last game I had conquered about half the map before I stopped and had about $13 million.
I mentioned at the end of the video that I will switch to polearms. The two-handed swords are way easier to unlock. Once I can make money with them, I'll use those to buy and smelt the expensive polearms to unlock those and use those.
@MrDavePed I like to have a million charcoal when I start crafting legendary weps. Frankly there's no point hording anything but charcoal in bannerlord :/
@@rockybalboa5611 It's just better to keep it with you. About 70 cargo animals is enough to carry whatever you need. That way you can keep running the wood village circuit.
@@rockybalboa5611 You are correct, but owning the fief itself is the only way to guarantee your crap's safety. Wouldn't want to lose it all to a liberty flip from the AI's inevitable braindead politics.
Sorry but you can do better. There some quest in town to make some weapons. Buy wood and pugios daggers You should increase skill really fast with the quest to make 1 throwing axe. And some two hands sword quest. And fighting loots and bandits you get the weapons to smelt etc. 😀👍
Crafting Orders do give more XP than just Crafting weapons, but not all towns have those quests. I didn't want to wait for those to pop up before I got started.
I think this way takes way too long and too much thought has to be put into it. I think going to battannia utilizing archers, hit some hideouts get some loot, trade prisoners, take some loot. Around seonon there are 2 settlements that are lumberyards. And one that has an iron mine. That's all you need to smelt, and refine all the iron you need to start.
There are two stamina mods i know of. One regens stamina over time and one offers unlimited stamina. The mod that regens stamina over time works really well as you can travel to the nearest next town and probably about half your stamina is regenerated. A longer trip and it is all regenerated which seems realistic.
Smithing is OP no need to use mods. I think your stamina reset everytime you level up. More important are perks athletic +50%regen and smithing cost -50% stamina.
Hero got that soothing ASMR everything voice!
Just discovered you last night, I'm a returning player to bannerlord & I love smithing, I appreciate the amount of care regarding the detail that you put into the information, you've earned yourself a subscriber & I hope you keep doing good work, mount & blade is a good series & I hope it doesn't die out anytime soon.
Fun side fact for those that do not know. Waiting at a bandit camp for nightfall fills stamina like waiting in town.
I think that something people do not really take into account when they look at Smithing and regard it as "easy" money is the Game Time vs real time. You are spending a great deal of game calendar doing it. I think in terms of in game time vs clicking waiting in town a shit ton you can make that money by putting a few points in Rogery and killing people. It just feels easy because a lot of it is doing nothing but watching the sun get out of the way of the moon over and over.
23 in game days for doing nothing is easy.
ingame time passing is almost meaningless
Years in and the same thing is still silly OP at start. Sell swords, hire Fians, create medieval firing squad conquer world. Yay.
There are 100's of other ways to play the game, even with vanilla only.
@@hero_on_youtubecertainly. I just wish the devs had done something to balance out smithing. Or made smithing a bit more realistic (ie, you can't start out as the Kalashnikov of two handed swords).
My thought was to put strength requirements on weapons and armor. Plate armor should he a 7 or 8 strength requirement to move and fight in and a two-handed sword would be 6 or more. This way at least you can't just dump strength and rely on elite crafted gear to carry you. And it'd be realistic since you need to be pretty strong to move and fight in plate armor.
@@raginasiangaming910 Where can you see how much strength your character has?
@@raginasiangaming910that's not true
My smith is always companion. He starts with 70 points while you start with 0. I go up to Seonon. Gather 20 recruit (against bandits). Than a few trade runs to Marunath overburdened. This way you will have a few thousand very quickly to buy local cheap wood and ore. My companion focusing on learning parts, forging and smelting and my main helps him refining.
Smithing from day 1 is useless. I start smithing when I find 3 smith companions and family members are eligable.
@@rockybalboa5611 It's very useful to get your preferred weapons to your companions with decent damage early on. For example I use swing 2handed polearm and javelin. You don't get decent ones early game unless you smith it. When I got those I usually take a break from smithing for awhile too.
@@the_white_rabbit you need to level up your companion's and bow is much safe. When sister is eligable than you can find good stock of pugio/tribesman. When brother is eligable there are 100+ each town. I do only orders+dagger quest early game. But I agree if you get throwing polearm lvl 3 game starts became easy.
@@rockybalboa5611 I don't play campaign only sandbox. Throwing is for companions and tournaments. Aserai and Khuzait tournaments are easiest (for me). In battle I use bow too.
also at the start when you hit poros, they have hogs and sheep you can buy in town and still make money on them, little lower profit but its still more profit
Did I not see those in my video? Now I need to go look.
I missed a bunch of them...
@@hero_on_youtube I dont think you scrolled all the way down to check when you first hit poros
@@Flesson19 I checked, when I clicked on the Hogs to slaughter them, it opened up the Hogs on the Trader's side. There were 30+ over there. I completely missed that while playing.
@@hero_on_youtube and you can also run back to the village to the right which has sheep, if Poros is low on price then take to Zeonica
To get wood buy all the weapons costing under 100 and make a route between the nearest wood producing villages. Keep a few tools with you for the mission to give 2 tools for their wood at the wood villages.
javelins are easier and cheaper to learn and make than 2h sword or polearms, they easily will sell for 35k plus once you get the skill for -50% trade penalty on crafted weapons. all you need do is give them the best parts and max out their size and voila, easily making 150k+ in a day
Last time I tested Javelins, you had to have a lot of starting money, just to get started. I'll test it again and see if that changed.
@@hero_on_youtube you can farm certain bandits and other troops early on to loot the javelins to avoid spending much money on them
@@hero_on_youtube if i remember correctly mountain bandits tend to have lots of javelins
@@jDoinkz I see. I spent 23-ish in-game days to unlock the 2h sword parts, starting from day one. At that point, I could just start buying javs and unlock them all quickly, but 2h polearms can provide more valuable weapons, so that is the direction I go in.
@@hero_on_youtube I think in-game days matter only if you are going for some sort of record breaking. Real time is a lot more valuable.
If you have any skills in fighting tourneys you could also win some for some easy prize money. I found khuzait tourneys the easiest as you get easy 1 on 1 fights at the end (usually javelins). If you also save scum a little, you could get a 15k horse as a prize and you're all set for money. They also have some good hardwood villages.
I just restarted playing bannerlord since the 1.2 change and remembered how easy it all gets fast. I haven't even made my kingdom, already more than 3 mil 170 army full of khuzait and battanian special troops, Svana and Silvind as my wife and my brother's. It's all getting boring pretty fast unfortunately.
Any good mods that make the game interesting again? Smithing has taken the fun out of it (but knowing it exists I can't play without it).
I like endurance 3 or 4 and 5 points in Smithing for everyone - because it gets you the stat increases down the chain. 150 Vigor or Control, 225 Endurance. You CAN get there with patience for most companions.
I rarely keep the smiths that I get early. Unless it's an actual companion that start with smithing. I usually spend all their focus and attribute points to raise smithing, so they are pretty useless to me for other purposes.
@@hero_on_youtube Totally get it; I don't do a great job developing companions, I usually just grab whoever is of the culture I need to placate the conquests and toss them as governor, or make them into stone-cold killers with a dash of leadership, so I barely notice wasting points on Endurance/smithing.
Last run I got lucky and Garvy(?) the Smith was the first companion I found. Otherwise, depending how early you find a spouse, I don't mind making her my partner in smithing - the early money is too good, and I can absorb wasting 4 points in smithing.
I love you bro, doing my first playthrough on hard settings, i keep losing troops and dont habe the money for upkeep tysm ❤
Smithing is the broken $$$$ way to go! I smith like crazy as soon as can and I'm always a multi-multi-millionaire by the time the game ends. Last game I had conquered about half the map before I stopped and had about $13 million.
Some polearm weapons sell for 45K or more. Just keep buying wood at the actual wood producing villages.
I mentioned at the end of the video that I will switch to polearms. The two-handed swords are way easier to unlock. Once I can make money with them, I'll use those to buy and smelt the expensive polearms to unlock those and use those.
Everyone gets charcoal duty till they are lvl 50 in my parties. The hardest part is maintaining a fief to store it in. Lords be all over my charcoal 😩
Don't make more charcoal than you need to make the weapons. No need to store any charcoal. Do you have pack animals?
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@MrDavePed I like to have a million charcoal when I start crafting legendary weps. Frankly there's no point hording anything but charcoal in bannerlord :/
You can buy workshop in safe location where you can store your crafting material. Sanala is very safe.
@@rockybalboa5611 It's just better to keep it with you. About 70 cargo animals is enough to carry whatever you need. That way you can keep running the wood village circuit.
@@rockybalboa5611 You are correct, but owning the fief itself is the only way to guarantee your crap's safety. Wouldn't want to lose it all to a liberty flip from the AI's inevitable braindead politics.
Hero= Derthert ?!?!👀
Sshhh... No one is supposed to know...
Great video
Sorry but you can do better.
There some quest in town to make some weapons. Buy wood and pugios daggers
You should increase skill really fast with the quest to make 1 throwing axe. And some two hands sword quest.
And fighting loots and bandits you get the weapons to smelt etc.
😀👍
Crafting Orders do give more XP than just Crafting weapons, but not all towns have those quests. I didn't want to wait for those to pop up before I got started.
I think this way takes way too long and too much thought has to be put into it. I think going to battannia utilizing archers, hit some hideouts get some loot, trade prisoners, take some loot. Around seonon there are 2 settlements that are lumberyards. And one that has an iron mine. That's all you need to smelt, and refine all the iron you need to start.
So, your strategy is to sell only a very good weapon, and smelt any bad one? No orders early on?
Yes. Sell the good ones, smelt the bad ones. I never had to do Crafting Orders for money, what I was doing was enough.
There are two stamina mods i know of. One regens stamina over time and one offers unlimited stamina. The mod that regens stamina over time works really well as you can travel to the nearest next town and probably about half your stamina is regenerated. A longer trip and it is all regenerated which seems realistic.
Smithing is OP no need to use mods. I think your stamina reset everytime you level up. More important are perks athletic +50%regen and smithing cost -50% stamina.