19:35 Interesting fact about the Opening situation at least outside of Japan it actually had the Vocal Track included on release for all platforms, on Steam Forums and Reddit, there's people who can confirm the Opening was included also as an aditional file where the game was installed, but with updates, it was taken out of newer installations of the game there's a solution for PC at least to replace the Opening Video file with the one from PS3/PS4 as it is also a video file that can be player using RAD Video Tools Idk why this happened though, as Berseria didn't have the same situation happen (the problem over there were mostly the weird censoship done to certain scenes honestly, which is part of the reason there's exist an English patch for the PS3 release, using the translation from the PC port, but no way of restoring that scene from the Opening hours of the game on PC yet)
Just wanted to say it's refreshing to see you giving these games that are somewhat unpopular a fair shake and giving your own opinions. When I played, I knew Alisha wasn't going to be in the party for the whole game. I guess I never really grew particularly attached to her as a result. I basically felt the same way about her as Rose - they were fine, nothing special.
I enjoyed this game, tales of bersaria too, the storylines were very interesting and the dialogue was great. The battles in tales of bersaria were better though.
I feel like there were meant to be more human party members, I'm replaying zestiria right now and it doesn't make sense for sergei not to join the party, lailah mentions he is pure, while not being able to see them, he senses the seraphim, being able to deflect an attack from dezel and he's the only person in rolance to want the help from the shepherd even though he is considered the empire's enemy Not sure if there's anymore outliers like sergei, I'm still replaying through the story, the closest second would be lucas, but I definitely feel like there were more human party members planned for the story
I played this game recently and my biggest issue with it is I feel like they were setting up characters like Sergei and Alicia to eventually be able to see the spirits on their own they deal with their personal challenges that spiritually blocked them. I really thought that was gonna happen when the two countries generals, and the mercenaries helped you take down that hellion I don’t like the whole if you’re born pure, you can see the spirits and interact with them, but if you’re born society, basically you just inherently corrupted, and you can never see them. The only reason can Rose can see them is because she was manipulated from a very young age basically Alicia always believe in them and she fights with them, but she was raining as a burden to sorey basically just leaves the bad taste in your mouth
I feel like this game definitely benefits from a second playthrough when you know more of what to expect. I can enjoy the gameplay well enough, but what puts the game down the most for me is the story. Pretty much all of the characters just aren’t very interesting to me, and the plot overall is quite simple. I tend to always enjoy Tales gameplay, so my attachment to the story and characters is often what I focus on the most when deciding my favourites, and it’s a shame Zestiria just wasn’t very ambitious in that aspect.
Zestiria is my third Tales game (after Arise and Berseria)...unless you count Symphonia but I never finished Symphonia. (I plan on remedying that.) I was curious to see why this game is so disliked. I'm about 13 hours in and I'm enjoying it so far. A big part of that is because I just came off of Berseria and I'm enjoying seeing the ties with that game. (I did know going in that Berseria is a prequel, but chose to play it first anyway.) I don't know if it's because I knew about the controversy or not, but Alisha's absence doesn't bug me and I do like Rose quite a bit. The only thing that puzzles me is that they seemed to have given Rose all of Alisha's costumes.
The skill system gets real tedious as the game wants you to got equipment farming which is kind of dumb. Also Sorey being handed a power to see and work with Seraphim where as other people with good hearts like Alisa just feels wrong from a plot point. Again, I like this game but I thought I'd give you 2 big reaons why this game gets hate.
This was easily my least favourite tales game from the ones i played. I mostly played for the characters and these just weren't great. I couldn't get with the fighting system and the enemies looked pretty boring and standard. Then my ps4 died with the disc in it and i couldn't finish it. Sad because i heard things would pick up. But i'm not doing all that again.
To me, the Tales franchise is still going strong, regardless of what fans say about the newer entries. I won’t let any negative opinions deter me from enjoying the stuff I like. I love the characters though.
even as someone who enjoyed it quite a bit, i can not deny that it has a decent amount of flaws and wasted potential. the way alisha was handled was pretty bad. i dont mind her being gone for a while, but the fact that shes gone for good while pay walled behind a dlc gives it a rather bitter taste. instead they could have spiced up the main story by getting her captured by the rolance empire due to her rashness and letting the party come to her rescue. basically adding one more story chapter. after that she would become a permanent companion. also letting sorey witness her getting interrogated and tortured for the sake of information extraction would have made for a decent twist as he tried to find a way to free her. showing him the true nature and malice of the human race. leaving sorey in disbelieve and forcing him to overcome another obstacle while questioning his role as a shepherd. as for the dungeons, they really needed a more unique layout. graphically, altho it looks mostly fine, in darker areas the game looks rather strange with the glowing characters. as for the skills and inventory system, it was too convoluted. the base idea of a matrix with stackable skills, rows etc. isnt bad, but the execution with farming gear and combining them is. also locking the game to 30fps is just mind boggling. what i really liked was the human companion aspect. the fact that they function as a mission book, giving you directions, recapitulate tasks and hints rather than having mission markers is a quite genius idea. the overall fantasy like feeling is also pretty great. my first game was vesperia and it made me feel like a child again, while this game managed to get kinda close to it. it is a decent game, but it could have been much more unfortunately.
Just finished my first playthrough of Zestiria my self. I agree with you that the game was not as bad as I thought it would be, and I definitely enjoyed the early to mid-game aspects of it. I enjoyed the story, the characters, the themes and the world quite a bit. I tolerated the battles in the early-mid game, but in the late game and especially final battle, the terrible gear system really held it back quite a bit and so many enemies with lots of resistances and no weaknesses made it feel like such a slog to play. I didn't want to bother actually learning how the gear system worked but I discovered the final boss was impossible to beat the DPS checks with on Moderate difficulty with my gear. Very unfortunate. The ending was also quite lack luster and didn't explain nearly enough. Laila never really got explained either, and I never got prompted for when to handle Edna's brother. Overall, I still have to give this game a thumbs down because it's good aspects don't outweigh the bad ones enough, so I understand the hate it gets. If it just didn't have such a terrible gear system, it could pass pretty well. I'm hoping my first playthrough of Berseria is much better, as it's been overhyped like crazy. I also thought it was a sequel to Zestiria, I'm only now realizing it's actually a prequel lol, I was looking forward to seeing what world Sorey made
I didn’t know there fans divided on Zestiria. It also blew my mind Tales fans are divided on the newer entries of the franchise. My brother really enjoyed the anime of it though but I have yet to watch it. I read its manga adaptation which I thought was good but I have yet to play its game though. If I have a take on any of the Tales games, none of them are legitimately terrible (same with Kingdom Hearts and Star Ocean, two other JRPG franchises I like besides Tales) although there are wildly varying opinions on each entry ranging from despising it to absolutely loving it. There are just some things you don’t know about until you get internet, sometimes not for the best.
@@xenosanctum2531 That I agree with. Another case is Kingdom Hearts. I’m a huge fan of that intellectual property for instance (that IP similarly has no legitimately bad entries despite some fans dumping on Chain of Memories, 358/2 Days and what I’m about to talk about) and that IP’s weakest game from what I’ve heard is Recoded for the DS. It is similar to Tempest on the same system in regard to what fans say about it, both games are regarded as the black sheeps of their respective franchises and on the same system. I always thought the DS got the short end of the RPG stick.
This game sucks. the equipment and combat triangle are needlessly convoluted, I've fallen off the game twice now (around lvl 40) Edit: :^) i did finish it around lvl 81-83 but holy shit the issues just got worse overtime
The frame rate and the decisions they made in this game were horrible this game and arise are the only tales games I never finished and I played all of them even the Japanese ones Positives : Sorey & Mikleo are one of the best friendships I have seen in video games you could even say Mikleo is best Wifu
I found it boring and mostly a chore to finish. I normally really like the villains in the Tales games and the ones in here were just so dull. The main guy just didn't feel like a Tales villain.
There is no nuance to the plot, the bad people are just bad and that's it, except of course for Mary Rose Sue who literally breaks the lore so she can stay perfect and pristine.
@@ag9953 both her and that evil priest broke the lore. Everything else was fairly straight forward, but since those two have 100% black and white morality, it doesn't affect them at all? Seriously?
To me there was so many problems with this game. The plot had the most generic bad guy in the series till Arise...the way the cast worked meant that only Sorey and rose could show up in the field for mini games which limited options, the combat was to unbalanced, and of course the whole Rose controversy did not help either. On top of that the way that the cast was almost pro death like they were Yu Yevon in Final Fantasy 10, even if it was not QUITE the same still turned me off with the whole" Death is salvation" thing. There was the annoying way to travel, the very generic dungeons, this game just had so many problems, I still find it worst then Arise and one of the least liked Tales games to me, the fact that its 8 years old now is, horrifying to me lol.
The combat in this game feels like hell and as much I think the characters are more annoying then charming and find the story completely stupid. I can't hate this game
@@reinsama2.09 you shouldn't had make that comment then. There will always be a change for comments like these. Yet, you respond like this? Also, you had the choice to either ignore it, or not respond to my comment. Just saying. Very silly, all I said was that I disagreed, and that I respected your opinion. Also, I wasn't being rude. All this does is make you seem questionable, 🤨🤔
The way you get the points for the post game Grade shop is PURE CRAP Zestria only you don't gain ANY THROUGH battles in game and it doesn't help that unless your doing a Easy/Normal mode run healing spells are USELESS Like Berseria in this one on hard and above mode healing spells restore 0 HP while the enemies on a 1st HARD run are likely to kill you IN 1 hit especially bosses.
Cant say i played all tales games. But all on pc, steam, yes. And tales if Z is my favorite. Tales of b second. Arise was meh, and sucky story, and to political off real world. Tales of S a chore to get through. Tales of V, so boring couldn't finish.
19:35
Interesting fact about the Opening situation at least outside of Japan
it actually had the Vocal Track included on release for all platforms, on Steam Forums and Reddit, there's people who can confirm the Opening was included also as an aditional file where the game was installed, but with updates, it was taken out of newer installations of the game
there's a solution for PC at least to replace the Opening Video file with the one from PS3/PS4 as it is also a video file that can be player using RAD Video Tools
Idk why this happened though, as Berseria didn't have the same situation happen (the problem over there were mostly the weird censoship done to certain scenes honestly, which is part of the reason there's exist an English patch for the PS3 release, using the translation from the PC port, but no way of restoring that scene from the Opening hours of the game on PC yet)
Just wanted to say it's refreshing to see you giving these games that are somewhat unpopular a fair shake and giving your own opinions.
When I played, I knew Alisha wasn't going to be in the party for the whole game. I guess I never really grew particularly attached to her as a result. I basically felt the same way about her as Rose - they were fine, nothing special.
my only genuine complaints about Zestiria are the battle camera and the skill system. It's still a really enjoyable game despite that though
I enjoyed this game, tales of bersaria too, the storylines were very interesting and the dialogue was great. The battles in tales of bersaria were better though.
I feel like there were meant to be more human party members, I'm replaying zestiria right now and it doesn't make sense for sergei not to join the party, lailah mentions he is pure, while not being able to see them, he senses the seraphim, being able to deflect an attack from dezel and he's the only person in rolance to want the help from the shepherd even though he is considered the empire's enemy
Not sure if there's anymore outliers like sergei, I'm still replaying through the story, the closest second would be lucas, but I definitely feel like there were more human party members planned for the story
I played this game recently and my biggest issue with it is I feel like they were setting up characters like Sergei and Alicia to eventually be able to see the spirits on their own they deal with their personal challenges that spiritually blocked them. I really thought that was gonna happen when the two countries generals, and the mercenaries helped you take down that hellion I don’t like the whole if you’re born pure, you can see the spirits and interact with them, but if you’re born society, basically you just inherently corrupted, and you can never see them. The only reason can Rose can see them is because she was manipulated from a very young age basically Alicia always believe in them and she fights with them, but she was raining as a burden to sorey basically just leaves the bad taste in your mouth
I feel like this game definitely benefits from a second playthrough when you know more of what to expect. I can enjoy the gameplay well enough, but what puts the game down the most for me is the story. Pretty much all of the characters just aren’t very interesting to me, and the plot overall is quite simple. I tend to always enjoy Tales gameplay, so my attachment to the story and characters is often what I focus on the most when deciding my favourites, and it’s a shame Zestiria just wasn’t very ambitious in that aspect.
I love the gameplay of this one
Zestiria is my third Tales game (after Arise and Berseria)...unless you count Symphonia but I never finished Symphonia. (I plan on remedying that.) I was curious to see why this game is so disliked. I'm about 13 hours in and I'm enjoying it so far. A big part of that is because I just came off of Berseria and I'm enjoying seeing the ties with that game. (I did know going in that Berseria is a prequel, but chose to play it first anyway.) I don't know if it's because I knew about the controversy or not, but Alisha's absence doesn't bug me and I do like Rose quite a bit. The only thing that puzzles me is that they seemed to have given Rose all of Alisha's costumes.
The skill system gets real tedious as the game wants you to got equipment farming which is kind of dumb. Also Sorey being handed a power to see and work with Seraphim where as other people with good hearts like Alisa just feels wrong from a plot point.
Again, I like this game but I thought I'd give you 2 big reaons why this game gets hate.
Great video
I realy liked tales of zesteria .
I love Zestiria, it’s a great game.
Sorey is a good shinto boy.
10 month later, still haven't figured out you mispelled the game title.
Call it a Mandela Effect. I have fixed it now.
Tales Of Zestiria was a good, fun game. I dont care what anyone says.
@@retroislandboy9708 agree
This was easily my least favourite tales game from the ones i played. I mostly played for the characters and these just weren't great. I couldn't get with the fighting system and the enemies looked pretty boring and standard.
Then my ps4 died with the disc in it and i couldn't finish it. Sad because i heard things would pick up. But i'm not doing all that again.
To me, the Tales franchise is still going strong, regardless of what fans say about the newer entries. I won’t let any negative opinions deter me from enjoying the stuff I like. I love the characters though.
If Tales is going strong, why have we not heard a peep since Symphomia Remastered came out?
even as someone who enjoyed it quite a bit, i can not deny that it has a decent amount of flaws and wasted potential.
the way alisha was handled was pretty bad.
i dont mind her being gone for a while, but the fact that shes gone for good while pay walled behind a dlc gives it a rather bitter taste.
instead they could have spiced up the main story by getting her captured by the rolance empire due to her rashness and letting the party come to her rescue. basically adding one more story chapter. after that she would become a permanent companion.
also letting sorey witness her getting interrogated and tortured for the sake of information extraction would have made for a decent twist as he tried to find a way to free her.
showing him the true nature and malice of the human race.
leaving sorey in disbelieve and forcing him to overcome another obstacle while questioning his role as a shepherd.
as for the dungeons, they really needed a more unique layout.
graphically, altho it looks mostly fine, in darker areas the game looks rather strange with the glowing characters.
as for the skills and inventory system, it was too convoluted.
the base idea of a matrix with stackable skills, rows etc. isnt bad, but the execution with farming gear and combining them is.
also locking the game to 30fps is just mind boggling.
what i really liked was the human companion aspect.
the fact that they function as a mission book, giving you directions, recapitulate tasks and hints rather than having mission markers is a quite genius idea.
the overall fantasy like feeling is also pretty great. my first game was vesperia and it made me feel like a child again, while this game managed to get kinda close to it.
it is a decent game, but it could have been much more unfortunately.
Just finished my first playthrough of Zestiria my self. I agree with you that the game was not as bad as I thought it would be, and I definitely enjoyed the early to mid-game aspects of it. I enjoyed the story, the characters, the themes and the world quite a bit. I tolerated the battles in the early-mid game, but in the late game and especially final battle, the terrible gear system really held it back quite a bit and so many enemies with lots of resistances and no weaknesses made it feel like such a slog to play. I didn't want to bother actually learning how the gear system worked but I discovered the final boss was impossible to beat the DPS checks with on Moderate difficulty with my gear. Very unfortunate. The ending was also quite lack luster and didn't explain nearly enough. Laila never really got explained either, and I never got prompted for when to handle Edna's brother. Overall, I still have to give this game a thumbs down because it's good aspects don't outweigh the bad ones enough, so I understand the hate it gets. If it just didn't have such a terrible gear system, it could pass pretty well. I'm hoping my first playthrough of Berseria is much better, as it's been overhyped like crazy. I also thought it was a sequel to Zestiria, I'm only now realizing it's actually a prequel lol, I was looking forward to seeing what world Sorey made
I didn’t know there fans divided on Zestiria. It also blew my mind Tales fans are divided on the newer entries of the franchise. My brother really enjoyed the anime of it though but I have yet to watch it. I read its manga adaptation which I thought was good but I have yet to play its game though. If I have a take on any of the Tales games, none of them are legitimately terrible (same with Kingdom Hearts and Star Ocean, two other JRPG franchises I like besides Tales) although there are wildly varying opinions on each entry ranging from despising it to absolutely loving it. There are just some things you don’t know about until you get internet, sometimes not for the best.
I don't think there are any genrally terrible games either, including Tales of the Tempest. But there are some pretty weak games.
@@xenosanctum2531 That I agree with. Another case is Kingdom Hearts. I’m a huge fan of that intellectual property for instance (that IP similarly has no legitimately bad entries despite some fans dumping on Chain of Memories, 358/2 Days and what I’m about to talk about) and that IP’s weakest game from what I’ve heard is Recoded for the DS. It is similar to Tempest on the same system in regard to what fans say about it, both games are regarded as the black sheeps of their respective franchises and on the same system. I always thought the DS got the short end of the RPG stick.
@@zexalsrevenge511 Seeing as not one Tales game on the DS got localised.
While Zestiria isn't as bad as it's made out to be, it's certainly NOT better than what came before or after.
It’s definitely better than many Tales games. It may not be the best, but it’s not the worst.
I think they removed the lyrics outside of Japan because the "I wanna be white" part may have been poorly received
In 2015? May have been poorly received is the understatement of the century. I can already see 2015 rantsonas screeching about it.
I was under the impression that it was too expensive to get the global license from superfly
banger
This game sucks. the equipment and combat triangle are needlessly convoluted, I've fallen off the game twice now (around lvl 40)
Edit: :^) i did finish it around lvl 81-83 but holy shit the issues just got worse overtime
The frame rate and the decisions they made in this game were horrible this game and arise are the only tales games I never finished and I played all of them even the Japanese ones
Positives : Sorey & Mikleo are one of the best friendships I have seen in video games you could even say Mikleo is best Wifu
I actually prefer this game to tales of Arise due to storyline
I found it boring and mostly a chore to finish. I normally really like the villains in the Tales games and the ones in here were just so dull. The main guy just didn't feel like a Tales villain.
There is no nuance to the plot, the bad people are just bad and that's it, except of course for Mary Rose Sue who literally breaks the lore so she can stay perfect and pristine.
@@ag9953 both her and that evil priest broke the lore. Everything else was fairly straight forward, but since those two have 100% black and white morality, it doesn't affect them at all? Seriously?
To me there was so many problems with this game. The plot had the most generic bad guy in the series till Arise...the way the cast worked meant that only Sorey and rose could show up in the field for mini games which limited options, the combat was to unbalanced, and of course the whole Rose controversy did not help either. On top of that the way that the cast was almost pro death like they were Yu Yevon in Final Fantasy 10, even if it was not QUITE the same still turned me off with the whole" Death is salvation" thing. There was the annoying way to travel, the very generic dungeons, this game just had so many problems, I still find it worst then Arise and one of the least liked Tales games to me, the fact that its 8 years old now is, horrifying to me lol.
The combat in this game feels like hell and as much I think the characters are more annoying then charming and find the story completely stupid.
I can't hate this game
Tales of Rozestiria a shit.
Still better than arise
Agreed
@@reinsama2.09 respectfully disagree
@@Hyp3rSonic WOMP WOMP didn't ask
@@reinsama2.09 you shouldn't had make that comment then. There will always be a change for comments like these. Yet, you respond like this? Also, you had the choice to either ignore it, or not respond to my comment. Just saying. Very silly, all I said was that I disagreed, and that I respected your opinion. Also, I wasn't being rude. All this does is make you seem questionable, 🤨🤔
No its PURE CRAP.
Care to elaborate?
The way you get the points for the post game Grade shop is PURE CRAP Zestria only you don't gain ANY THROUGH battles in game and it doesn't help that unless your doing a Easy/Normal mode run healing spells are USELESS Like Berseria in this one on hard and above mode healing spells restore 0 HP while the enemies on a 1st HARD run are likely to kill you IN 1 hit especially bosses.
It’s the gamefaqs guy
Respectfully disagree
Cant say i played all tales games. But all on pc, steam, yes. And tales if Z is my favorite. Tales of b second. Arise was meh, and sucky story, and to political off real world.
Tales of S a chore to get through. Tales of V, so boring couldn't finish.