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Story is the biggest thing for me. But besides that, the villains weren't really a problem. Unlike the God Generals or Legates, it is Alphen and Shionne's primary goal to kill the Lords for the Renis Alma, so it makes sense. We absolutely need more character moments too. I loved Dohalim's story and wish we got more for the others. YES! Bring back 2d skits! Those were the peak, I'll even take Berseria or Zestiria's but I was NOT a fan of Arise skits. Is it just me or does anyone want TP back?

As someone who like to play as every character in these games, a training mode would help a lot, I also want the training mode to let you select which monster to practice with once you discover them for the first time to help you know how they attack.

I agree with all yours points. I don't mind Arise' combat, but boost strike did felt repetitive to me. Not using the boost strike would make the combat would be harder to play, but the reliance on boost strike make the game felt repetitive. Overall, they really should learn more from Fromsoft. 0:20 lol, that gave me a good laugh

I agree with all your non combat suggestions. I'd like a return to a more simple, "brighter" cast of characters. Berseria is my favorite because of it's perfect balance of tone within the cast, but i do agree after it and Arise in a row, a party more akin to like Phantasia and Eternia's parties are in order. On that note, I think the next game should be 2d in general. Sprites and everything. For one, to show us that side of the series is still alive, and 2) it'd be good for them with the way industry is going atm. With big, triple A, astronomical budget games proving themselves unsustainable for constant output lately, it would do companies well to learn that yeah, releasing smaller scale but still quality projects in between is the way to go. And like you said, for RPG s in particular, going back to 2d roots of the genre has been rather successful lately for others. Or just translate and port the many Japan only 2d titles... I'm not big brain enough to speak in depth on the combat part, just that Linear Motion should return, whichever iteration it takes the most from, up to them. Since we're talking 2d, maybe building off Rebirth's iteration could work.

There has been a leak of xillia ps5 remaster. Could be true, could not be. What I want is 2d gameplay but that will never happen.

After seeing this video I still disagree with your criticism for it having "too much dialogue", as I keep saying, this franchise was just not made for you. "Too much dialogue" is an staple of the Super Robot Wars franchise and this game was made by the creators of said game, so it should be expected that you will read a lot.

Why do you keep comparing these games to other ones? These games weren't made with the intention of surpassing major RPGs at all.

Eh, I feel you had the wrong mentality when playing the game. If you wanna go fast then this franchise is not for you, it was made by one of the Super Robot Wars directors and said franchise is full of dialogue, so it should have been obvious how much dialogue there would be here as well.

XCX is the greatest game on the Wii U

Arise is far superior!

I'll say it Zestiria is better than Symphonia

Honestly, I don't the vita version's battle system to be really good, especially with the counter, flash step, and link mechanisms. Not to mention the it had a full 3D overworld. It's a pity the localization was so half-as*ed.

Tales of Berseria, my third Tales of game and first I've ever beaten. Loved it. S tier is perfect for it.

So, basicly, if i can't stop to adore Berseria cast and story, the only one that can be comparable is remaster of old-stuff Vesperia and bit outdated Xilia. Why does the world so hard on me?

While vesperia is good, I couldn't stand the godawful A.I.

I am sad Tales of Rebirth has never gotten an English release. Veigue look so damn badass.

Zestiria is my third Tales game (after Arise and Berseria)...unless you count Symphonia but I never finished Symphonia. (I plan on remedying that.) I was curious to see why this game is so disliked. I'm about 13 hours in and I'm enjoying it so far. A big part of that is because I just came off of Berseria and I'm enjoying seeing the ties with that game. (I did know going in that Berseria is a prequel, but chose to play it first anyway.) I don't know if it's because I knew about the controversy or not, but Alisha's absence doesn't bug me and I do like Rose quite a bit. The only thing that puzzles me is that they seemed to have given Rose all of Alisha's costumes.

Graces was my favorite Tales game for quite some time. I love the combat, and although the story is simple, I don't think simple means bad at all. I actually l9ve CC when you can gain more mid combo, which is why I think Berseria does it the best. You can quite literally do infinite combos if you're good enough

I only need three number one tales of the abyss tales of vesperia tales of symphonia!!!

The only tales game they play exactly the same is tales of the abyss tales of vesperia and tales of sophonia

10 month later, still haven't figured out you mispelled the game title.

How to kill the video: speed up your speech, mumble like Joe Biden and add some loud background music. Done. Totally incomprehensible.

This year I bought Vesperia and Arise for PS4 and never played any Tales of game before. Loved both, did all the side quests, got best weapons etc, just because wanted to spend more time in these worlds. But when I hear from some that Arise is 2/10 and Vesperia is 9/10 games I am surprised, because if looking at any other competition, like Dragon Quest VIII, XI or Xenoblade Chronicles (1st) both games feels unpolished in comparison. Looks like only true fan of series can tell difference by such margin, since series as a whole is mediocrity lacking in at least some aspects in every iteration. Vesperia is far from perfect, even far from really good, and Arise is a tad weaker. There is not that much difference to celebrate one or banish the other.

Not Gonna Lie. Been Playing this Game since I first Pre-ordered it. And Yeah, Bandai-Namco is getting OUT OF HAND With the DLC! The Fact that this Game Has Several Titles That are Purposefully Left off and are Locked Through DLC makes this Entry such a Problem! I Hear there are Even Special Quests that I LOCKED Through DLC! Thank God that isn’t the Case with The Devil Arms Weapons! (But those do need a New Game+ to be unlocked). What Makes this DLC Barrage even Worse is how it Impacts Leveling Up! I Get that the game Needs to Pace itself, but it really Doesn’t help! The Enemies in the game feel like Damage Sponges! So you have to find ways to beef up your levels and Stats to get through Mobs of enemies! This isn’t made any better when you have to struggle to get through Mobs that hit like a Truck while trying to earn levels, SP (skill points), and Materials for crafting. Same for materials. The Other problem is how Expensive By Using Skills and passive powers are when looking at them from the Title boards! And when they start dipping into the Thousands, it forces you to start participating in more Combat. Right Now, all my characters are At LEVEL 55! And I’m at the End portions of the game! Everything is around level 55 to 60+! But this only extends to certain enemies in specific areas! Right now, the Homeworld Rena has the Majority of Strong monsters to Level Gring on. This game has an Accessory/buff item that helps to Beef up each character’s stats with every kill. But it comes in so late. You really need to Craft it early on. But this item is hidden for a Large majority of the game that it’s practically hidden from New players! The other Necessary Items that Need to be Found are Artifacts! As getting those greatly speed up the Level grind! It’s good that these items are included, but this game gets so dull after a while that I found myself falling asleep! The game is interesting when it starts. But by the Time you get into the Second Half after ALphen’s Rival Boss. It becomes a real Drag to get through! As you are Facing off against Bosses and Mid-Bosses with Tanky Hp pools! All While Bamco Continues to Come up with some Really Stupid Ideas! Like Putting some Essential TRaining Arena DLC on THEIR GODDAMN WEBSITE! That is NOW INACCESSIBLE!!! 😮😡

One of the my favourite things about Vesperia is also its visuals. I remember back when it was released on the Xbox 360, I was so entranced by the bright colours and magic (which in my opinion, Vesperia has the best magic in the series by far) that I bought the platform specifically to play this game. Then for years and YEARS I held onto the hope that I’d get to play the full PS3 version. And when the definitive version was announced? I rejoiced.

Phantasia being in D tier has to be bait.

With Abyss the real issue is needing a guide to not miss the titles and sword skills for Guy and Luke. That's so annoying. With Symphonia, probably just like Abyss, the unvoiced skits don't help much. They were voiced in Japanese so what the hell.

The Tales series turns 30 next year, and still no news? That is sad....

Tales of vesperia story was lackluster

I've only currently played Tales of the Abyss, and I loved it. As you've put it towards the top I will listen to your words and play Vesperia next 👍

The fact that they paywalled shit is what makes this Tales of the worst for me, and the people defending this shit are just holyshit braindead. Same take about the boss part, I also think that this battle system is just bad, and that makes me think this game is hardly Tales of Series, I understand some people might enjoy the battle system because they played on easy difficulty, but this on max difficulty is just super spammy crap, and I know Zestiria is also spammy, but at least I got to do cool spam, unlike this one. For the story, if they think that the destroyed Rena planet reveal or plot twist makes me the player surprised, nope, I am utterly disappointed. And don't get me started on the fkin Story DLC. But anything else, like graphics, character design, and their 3d expression overall is a massive improvement.

They wanted to make a Tales game become Dark Souls, and if I wanted to play Dark Souls I'd you know...go play Dark Souls. I personally will not buy another tales game since they seem content on going further down this path.

I've only played about a 1/3rd of the Tales games, but I know whose advice to take when they rank Arise as low as I do. xD

I have to disagree with a lot. The music is fine in both games and the story is still good. But 2's character models are terrible to look at. The combat system in 2 is the worst of the 3. I much preferred 1's over 2. The pacing of, well everything in 2, just wasn't as smooth (as in the mix of story and the side missions. It never felt good to do any of them, but as a completionist, you want to do them...). 1 had such a classic and iconic look and I enjoyed the battle system more. If you played the mini games (which you said you didn't really get into), the mech game was just okay in 1, but really cool it was something you could do. But the card game was actually quite well made for anyone that enjoys TCG's like me. It was really sad to see that left out of 2. KOS-MOS, the best character in the series, while both her 3rd games designs were the best, the 2nd games version of her is by far the worst looking. 1 being a classic and almost as good as the two in 3. I play 2 because it's needed in context from playing 1 and 3. Again, the story is good, but the combat is meh and the sidequests feel like a chore. Note though that this is from someone that still really loves the series and has played the trilogy 4 times thru (and the first game more than that as there were points in life when the sequels were not out yet).

Tales of the Abyss is S Tier… best in the series still

I hope this game gets a rerelease so we can finally play it! Or a fan translation which I am shocked hasn’t happened yet.

I noticed you don't have a Retrospective for Xenoblade Chronicles 3. It feels kind of lacking watching all the other retrospectives for the Xeno-series games only to end and not have the latest game shown. Are you planning on making this?

Did you know. 90%+ of game makers have been involved with hentai. This doesn't just include Japan, but game makes all over the world. Most, especially the older ones, have worked on 18+ content. People finding out about it is just kind of silly and makes one go, "oh you sweet summer child..." If you want to know more of this, a great video to watch is one called "The Real History of Rule 34". It's really good and I recommend looking it up.

I've heard of Xenosaga Freaks before, because I went looking for every Xenosaga game out there. It's sad that Xenosaga Freaks is a Japanese only game. And Xenosaga 3 is a very expensive game. Trying to finish this series for people getting into the franchise nowadays is gonna be hard for them.

I enjoyed tales of arise, bith gameplay and story The thing I don't like about arise is the boss mystic artes mechanic

I need to play more. I played part of Symphonia back in the GameCube day and never finished it and decided to pick up Arise randomly when it came out. It got me through having Covid as no other game could hold my interest at that time. Sad to see it at a C, but agree with that you said. I liked what I played of Beseria and don’t know why I stopped because I liked it.

I 100% agree about Arise combat. Awful

I like both Emil and Marta. Speak for yourself haha. Laura Bailey did a great job once again

Berseria: combat (hi R2 claw spam) Zestiria: equipment system Xillia: nothing Xillia 2: debt system Graces F: nothing Symphonia: EX system Symphonia 2: elemental field system Legendia: random battles, no mini map, combat Abyss: Field of fonons Vesperia: nothing Arise: everything

I think Alexei in on hard mode is harder than Gattuso, he's so much more BS. Alexei will just use Guardian Field and heal chunks of his HP whenever he wants. I fought him for like 15 minutes. Gattuso on hard is beatable at least, I have NO IDEA how to stop Alexei from healing, and worse yet if he goes overlimit, you can't stun him and he might just use Guardian Field and there's nothing you can do about it. I've seen him go overlimit and immediately use Guardian Field or his mystic arte. Barbatos does look completely unfair though, but he looks easier if you use the right strategy. For Alexei you're just praying he doesn't heal himself too much.

Maaan I hated tales of hearts r but it's good to hear that the ds original is better

I absolutely love the graphics...the PS1 and PS2 had some games with a beautiful artstyle, like Legend of Mana, SaGa Frontier, Atelier Iris, Mana Khemia, Ar Tonelico and this game... It would be so wonderful if they would return to this graphicstyle, I can't stand 3D that's why I can't get myself to play the newer Tales and Atelier games no matter how many good things one hears about them :(

I tend to disable voice in Tales of series. Hearing everyone screaming their attacks names kinda ruins my immersion IMHO.

I love Zestiria, it’s a great game.

I’m right there with ya man, I played it a short while after launch since all I heard were great things, and could not understand how it got so much freekin praise. Glad to see someone out there who’s not fawning over it. It’s got an interesting world, but to be honest I couldn’t really connect to any of the characters and felt that the story fell very flat. Seriously I can remember some chunks about the story, but so much of it was either forgettable or just poorly explained in general. That, combined with the fact that I really didn’t like the battle system (for many of the same reasons you describe.) Honestly, this is a game that I would think is mediocre at best as a very generic (albeit very pretty) JRPG. But I think I get additional frustration from the simple fact this is called a “Tales” game when it bears almost no similarities to any of the “Tales” staples… at least none of the ones that matter. Honestly the most “tales” staple that this game has is the skits, and even those were botched, as they made it so that many of the story moments are told via skit… and I just wanna scream, “that’s not what skits are for!! They’re for the simple conversation and interactions between party members as they’re walking down the road! They’re for character development! levity! Introspection! Reflection on past major events!” At the most, skits should show how individual characters are angry or upset about something major in the story - they should NOT be used to convey major moments of the story itself (Berseria also did this, which is why I didn’t care for that game either). At that point, the games more like I’m watching a visual novel, and THAT doesn’t feel like a tales game for me. Oh Sheeze, I went and ranted more than I intended - sorry.