Idk who the second commentator is but he's solid. You can tell he isn't used to working with another good commentator though. He doesn't trust HMW to pick up dead air after he says something.
Studebacherhoch iirc, he has the perfect 'I'm a radio broadcaster' voice And chill dude in general in terms of how he does during commentary (fauster (westballz is in fire, pls search that👍🏼)being a fun comparison)
this is kinda normal for marth, i think there are two animations for his hitstu and this one specifically offsets his model so much that when you act out of it you basically teleport
When Marth used Fair his leg hurtbox collided with Falco's Neck hitbox from Bair. Then since Marth's percent went over 100% from the attack, Zain had a 25% chance of being sent into flyroll. Basically his character model went from upright to spiraling.
Kinda a weird point to make since Mango got 3-0’d, but I honestly feel like if he edge guarded Marth better he would kinda wash Zain. Zain literally got more openings from Mango messing up edge guards than Mango successfully edge guarding him. The Meta is becoming pretty execution and defensive heavy these days, excited to see how mango adapts.
I mean okay mang0 is not doing his best play but he’s in this game for a while and he even helped his homie zain to get better, it’s normal if at some point a new meta grow and beat him and that’s a good thing for everybody. Still hard to developp a new gameplay but that’s what he’s doing, and losing is part of the process 🔥 force to you mang0
cant believe mango went for the hardest finishers and having him lose his neutral advantage because of it is soo bad i mean cmon god give us try hards the extra something
What is the case here? Is Magnus Carlsen able to do this? He has the concentration. I wonder if he has the physical capability. You should not be surprised at what people hide from us? Using these two characters in tournaments is a big secret to all.
@@jacobcarter3158 Nothing about his comment warrants him being called a loser. Mang0 has literally cost himself success due to his own alcoholism, but I don't expect someone with a smooth brain to understand.
I always hope for Mang0 wins since it’s healthy for the game and the community, but Mang0 could be out of the Top 50 and his fans will STILL say he’s the best player in the world. Mang0 fans need to accept reality. Mang0 already has from his controller spike against AMSA. Incoming more “The Kid is Back” videos from Mang0.
Yeah, gonna have to agree with some of these comments. Melee is getting really boring. Safe approaches, rinse and repeat tactics, Shiek F-Air, Marth F-smash, Fox shine gimps. Yeah, its the game, I get it, but not too long ago we were getting much more hype matches with some really nice combos. I HAVE to agree about the personalities. No one is funny anymore. Its just insufferable Cody, optimal Zain, "zen" (not really) posture guy Jmook, rager Moky, and thats about it. Everyone on netplay plays the same now. All the players with a shred of swag or cool combo play like aMSa, Salt, Magi, BBB, Wizzrobe, s2j, Axe, Plup, Leffen....either cant make it or just left the game/MIA....
Melee is all about playing safe and optimal now even if you have to rinse and repeat the same boring approaches, fades, combos, edgeguards, etc. That's what people do with thousands of dollars on the line. I will say I'm sad seeing Mango can't contend lately. He looks good in practice but when it comes to LAN I just feel like he ain't fast enough despite his insane tech skill to roll with these kids anymore. His opponents seem very comfortable on stage in a serious set and Mango used to be but he doesn't seem it anymore. I'm getting bored of seeing Marth Fox winning everything all Fox players play exactly the same now it's really boring to watch
9:29 if GR Smash made another "Worst handshakes" video, this could be in there
😂
pinky palm incident of 2024
With the headset fumble and everything 😂
They are homies
Spoiler block
It's a 10 minute set we know what happened lol
Bless you
@@PreacherJenkinswould be a shame if the set went the other direction and u got spoiled, quit being lame lol
@@saulinasdegortari8710mango slander with a toon link pfp🤡
Mang did that good, huh?
The kid will return and a bountifiul harvest of netplay falcos with him.
Hype
Cope
The dichotomy of the mang0 fan, right before our eyes
lisan al gaib
lmaooo
Idk who the second commentator is but he's solid. You can tell he isn't used to working with another good commentator though. He doesn't trust HMW to pick up dead air after he says something.
studeabaker or somthing like that
Studebacherhoch iirc, he has the perfect 'I'm a radio broadcaster' voice
And chill dude in general in terms of how he does during commentary (fauster (westballz is in fire, pls search that👍🏼)being a fun comparison)
If you ever wanna meet him go to FX game exchange in Plano Texas every other Tuesday.
5:57 WHAT THE FUCK.
is Zains Marth coded different what happened at 2:50?
this is kinda normal for marth, i think there are two animations for his hitstu and this one specifically offsets his model so much that when you act out of it you basically teleport
When Marth used Fair his leg hurtbox collided with Falco's Neck hitbox from Bair. Then since Marth's percent went over 100% from the attack, Zain had a 25% chance of being sent into flyroll. Basically his character model went from upright to spiraling.
8:33 zain uses side b to land on Randal????
@8:22 Nice call out on the green slip
Mango's wavedash OoS options were very clean this set. I just wish he'd implement shine grab a bit more.
dude zain and these jabs are just insane
“Mango and Zain are the greatest rivalry in melee ever”Toph 2023. Aged like milk
Kinda a weird point to make since Mango got 3-0’d, but I honestly feel like if he edge guarded Marth better he would kinda wash Zain.
Zain literally got more openings from Mango messing up edge guards than Mango successfully edge guarding him.
The Meta is becoming pretty execution and defensive heavy these days, excited to see how mango adapts.
Daaamn, Zain fired up at the end of game one and never looked back. Great set even though mang0 fumbled a bit.
Mango didnt fumble he completely threw the set he definitely wasnt motivated and also zain is just really fckin good
@@KH-nova ok dude
he definitely tried@@KH-nova
Why is this Ginger's last tourney?
Extreme burn out
Yo what's up with Ginger this being his last tourney? Can someone explain..
This was his last tourney
Go to his TH-cam he has a video about his retirement
@@FsmashJohn clown
@@animaIpath ooookay?
@@FsmashJohnWhatever is going on with you, get it fixed. Wishing you good luck
Mango can't keep up anymore.
HMW is Mango's Stilgar.
Mang0 taking majority of last year off is really showing here, but I really do think the kid can bounce back by Tipped Off in June..
holy shit the psychic
Mango doesn't believe in grabbing
That’s just Falco lol
mango always starts great and then dies
That's the Mang0
maybe that’s why he named himself after fruit
Thats not safe my guy
Shine grab! PLEEASSEEE
I mean okay mang0 is not doing his best play but he’s in this game for a while and he even helped his homie zain to get better, it’s normal if at some point a new meta grow and beat him and that’s a good thing for everybody. Still hard to developp a new gameplay but that’s what he’s doing, and losing is part of the process 🔥 force to you mang0
good production
Put yourself in Mangos shoes like how tf do I approach Zains Marth lol
Soon to be the Goat
So when did they start having PS change level? It’s use just stay with only platforms.
Because of Nintendo. They have legal precedent to shut down tournaments they don't approve of, including Frozen Stadium since it's a mod.
Vanilla melee is better anyways
Mango tearin shit up!
Lmao when did zain grow a beard? I been gone way too long
mang0 fans know if he's shmoovin and groovin then his opponent is losin
cant believe mango went for the hardest finishers and having him lose his neutral advantage because of it is soo bad i mean cmon god give us try hards the extra something
Just pretend its your stream Mango 😂😂
Mango rocking the bloatlord look
gg mang
What is the case here? Is Magnus Carlsen able to do this? He has the concentration. I wonder if he has the physical capability. You should not be surprised at what people hide from us? Using these two characters in tournaments is a big secret to all.
Can u sticky walk on accident? That walk Zain did in game 3 did not look like it was on purpose n it didn't benefit him at all lol
why doesn’t he just play fox
Because he likes Falco better.
both did NOT play clean, nice series tho. a delight to the senses
Zain so fkn amazing
Best falco by far to ever do it and people still discredit him smh
If Mango is just going to play alcohol-brain autopilot Melee, then he needs to just retire
Why does he need to quit playing a game he loves just because some loser called him an alcoholic
You win the basement dwelling neckbeard award now its time to find a job
@@KH-novaHow tf would you know if he is a loser ?
@@horizon1132did u read his comment? He sounds like a loser lmao
@@jacobcarter3158 Nothing about his comment warrants him being called a loser. Mang0 has literally cost himself success due to his own alcoholism, but I don't expect someone with a smooth brain to understand.
I always hope for Mang0 wins since it’s healthy for the game and the community, but Mang0 could be out of the Top 50 and his fans will STILL say he’s the best player in the world. Mang0 fans need to accept reality. Mang0 already has from his controller spike against AMSA. Incoming more “The Kid is Back” videos from Mang0.
Everyone just gonna ignore that fist bump?
It got an instant replay. They zoomed in on it and slowed it down?
Aaaand nothing new, Zain bodying Mang0 again… (yes, I know the matchup is bad, but still becoming predictable)
You try going stock for stock with any top player
@@chibilink73Weak argument.
@@chibilink73 translation: mang0 is as washed as the average youtube commenter
Yeah, gonna have to agree with some of these comments. Melee is getting really boring. Safe approaches, rinse and repeat tactics, Shiek F-Air, Marth F-smash, Fox shine gimps. Yeah, its the game, I get it, but not too long ago we were getting much more hype matches with some really nice combos. I HAVE to agree about the personalities. No one is funny anymore. Its just insufferable Cody, optimal Zain, "zen" (not really) posture guy Jmook, rager Moky, and thats about it. Everyone on netplay plays the same now. All the players with a shred of swag or cool combo play like aMSa, Salt, Magi, BBB, Wizzrobe, s2j, Axe, Plup, Leffen....either cant make it or just left the game/MIA....
Wah wah
This opinion or wrong it's not 2008 grow up
@@chrisball4340”this opinion is wrong”… how do you say that without feeling like an absolute idiot like seriously
@@chrisball4340 "This opinion or wrong" LOL what are you even saying
This is absolutely a womp womp comment. Don’t enjoy don’t watch, pretty simple
Fuckin mango just can’t beat zain for the last like 4 years so frustrating. Zain just gate keeping the goat with this dorky ass busted dlc character.
4 years? he was beating him a good few times in 2022 lol
@@notsmiffy i will say tho all of zain's best wins are 3-0 and there's many of those, there's not a single 3-0 from mang's side
Zain is just better. And wtf do you mean dlc character? Yeah man, Melee dlc, lmao. Mango can't hang with the top anymore, get over it.
Marth and Falco are actually both DLC🤓
cheers for the laugh. please comment more often
Mango is washed and overrated, he gotta retire
Mango is absolutely not washed what lmao
Dude makes top 8
@@stevenjohnston9888Then we need to stop calling him “The G0at”. He can’t keep up.
@@Sethekk11Dumbest thing i’ve seen so far. 😂
@@jacoblong6864 Help it make sense then. Is the whole community just pretending they don’t see him struggling in tournaments? 🤣
The new top 4 players are annoying asf to watch cody zain moky it just sucks
Melee is all about playing safe and optimal now even if you have to rinse and repeat the same boring approaches, fades, combos, edgeguards, etc. That's what people do with thousands of dollars on the line. I will say I'm sad seeing Mango can't contend lately. He looks good in practice but when it comes to LAN I just feel like he ain't fast enough despite his insane tech skill to roll with these kids anymore. His opponents seem very comfortable on stage in a serious set and Mango used to be but he doesn't seem it anymore. I'm getting bored of seeing Marth Fox winning everything all Fox players play exactly the same now it's really boring to watch
who do you like to watch?
No, they are not. They're way cooler than Mango will ever be, and without having to be assholes to stay relevant like he has.
@@Lorchlis Then stop watching. No one's forcing you to.
@@WindraesaJim Jam Flim Flam