As an irish person I'm so grateful you guys did so much research on this. I went to the same girls Catholic school as Dolores years after her. She wrote a letter to us that was framed in a glass case. It was something like 'reach for the stars girls'. You guys have hit it with the keening. She was in the same choir as me. The nuns would force the irish accent out of you but Dolores kept her limerick accent. They wanted us to sound British. She was irish protest music ❤️😍🍀🐈
Thank you so much. We were actually pretty worried about this one because we all love the song so much, and when Dolores passed we were devastated. We wanted to make sure we did both her and the song justice with our reaction, so hearing all the positive comments from Irish folks makes us happy we didn't screw this one up. "I went to the same girls Catholic school as Dolores years after her. She wrote a letter to us that was framed in a glass case. It was something like 'reach for the stars girls'. You guys have hit it with the keening. She was in the same choir as me. The nuns would force the irish accent out of you but Dolores kept her limerick accent. They wanted us to sound British. She was irish protest music" That is so very cool. What an amazing memory you have, and it's so touching Dolores wrote a letter for the school. Thank you for commenting. I hope you check out some of our other content and if you haven't already subscribe and stick around the channel.
I grew up being taught by my teachers that the Catholics were trying to kill us. That was in Scotland. I love your comment and agree totally. What I love about the song and video is that the lyrics are about a PIRA atrocity and the video depicts a British atrocity. Both sides killed children. One side stuck in 1916 and the other stuck on the Boyne. We were zombies.
That's really good to hear. Thank you so much. If you haven't seen it, I also did a matchup between "Zombie" covers. You might enjoy that video as well: th-cam.com/video/M8RpdMp1whE/w-d-xo.html Thank you again.
I was born in Belfast, near the Falls Road, 3 years before the Troubles began and I lived through the worst of times, which really only stopped thanks to the Good Friday Agreement in 1998. Thank you for such an insightful review of this beautiful song. I pray to God that we don’t ever go back to those dark times.
Thank you for commenting, and I'm glad this video turned out okay. I knew going into it that I wanted to make sure we treated it with the reverence it deserved. I'm so sorry you lived through those times. Like I said in the video, my wife and I spent some time in Belfast, and it was much more emotional for us than I had anticipated. I pray we don't go back to those times as well. Thanks again for checking this one out. I hope you take a look at some of our other content, too.
I have always considered this video as an audio/visual masterpiece and your reaction is the 3rd component to complete this. With research and personal experience this reaction was nailed. Other reactors are in tears and ask for a comment on the context of the video. You guys know the history! You share knowledge and emotions in a very sincere way. I really enjoyed this!
That's a really kind comment. Thank you so much. All three of us are fans of this song and wanted to make sure we did it justice with our reaction, so I'm glad you liked it. I hope you check out some of our other content, and if you liked what we're doing, hit the subscribe button and hang around with us.
You have added a comment that sums up the reaction perfectly. Couldn’t have put it better myself, I think if you’re going to do a reaction you should do some sort of research on it first and then listen to it. Would make it much better to watch.
@@oisinquinn9469 Cheers for that Oisin. We wanted to make sure we did this one justice, and I'm glad you think we did. I love Ireland (we spent New Year's in Dublin and Cork) and I was really nervous about getting this one right.
@@sharpy1695 Thank you Sharpy. We do have quite a few 1st look reactions on this channel, but for songs/videos I know hold special meaning I try to do my best to at least look into them a little to try and understand them the best I can. It helps having Ricky on here. He's a prof. of music at Texas State, so he helps out a lot.
I have watched countless reactions of this song as I love the song and this is by far the best. Dolores will always live on through her music. Another Irish viewer
Thanks, John. We're really glad you liked our video. We worked pretty hard to put together something that we thought would honor both the song and Dolores. I hope you hit the subscribe button and check out some of our other content. It's not all serious like this, but we always try to have fun.
From Limerick; Dalores O'Riordan, had a rough start in life. Her Dad suffered severe cognitive impairment in a motorcycle accident and she was kidnapped and raped when she was a young girl. She struggled with PTSD from the kidnapping most of her life. She wrote Zombie after a sectarian bombing in London, which recalled other attacks in Belfast including a trash bin bombing that killed two children and wounded several others. Dalores targeted those who were profiting from the violence, labeling them, "Zombies." The song became an Irish anthem for peace, then a world anthem for peace and helped pressure both sides into negotiations. Paramilitary leaders, both credited her with having great influence in the process and criticized her for it as well. Some even threatened her. She died in her London hotel bathtub prior to recording the reboot of Zombie with Bad Wolves. No autopsy was performed, but the likelihood of suicide or homicide was strong. Either way, Ireland's little hero and peace martyr finally had her rest. During the late 80's I was working with a group that had partnered with people exhausted from the violence In Northern Ireland. Our plan was to integrate protestant and catholic children's schools in Belfast suburbs and to push the US government to send a peace delegation to Northern Ireland. Though there was much resistance to integration, neighborhoods that achieved integration saw violence diminish. Clinton eventually sent Mitchell and the IRA had amassed an arsenal that leveled the killing fields. All along the way Dalores O'Riordan's song kept the pressure on. The accords were signed and the bombing stopped. In the song, Dreams you hear more of her keening than in Zombie. This is an ancient style of Irish singing. Dreams was used at the end of the first Mission Impossible movie. It's Dreams that causes me to grieve her passing more than any other song.
Thank you for the work you did in helping achieve some peace during such a violent and turbulent time for Ireland. As I said in the video, my wife and I were overwhelmed when we visited Belfast. We'll have to cover "Dreams" at some point. It's also a gorgeous song, and O'Riordan is fantastic in it. The world is a lesser place without her here.
I'm a hairdresser I was doing a costumers hair from the bog side .she told me her son was run over with a landsrover British. Her son was 4 or 5 .he was playing football outside her home .thy pulled in didn't stop ran over him .then revirst over him .she was at the window couldn't move . couldn't believe it . And I asked her how can she forgive them .she said .I pray for them . That wasn't my pain to carry.
Yeah, you're absolutely right. She was such a talented, unique singer. It's still unbelievable she's no longer with us. The world is a lesser place without her in it.
Best researched & thoughtful commentary I’ve heard anyone do yet And you pronounced The lead singers name perfectly too! Thoroughly enjoyed that review, checking out some more your reviews to educate myself on some of the other songs/bands. Nice whiskey by the way, slainte
Wow what a kind compliment. Thank you so much. I hope you enjoy our other content. We do deep dives on some videos like this one, and then other times we just pick an interesting music video, have a beer, and have fun. So not all of them are like this one, but we try to vary what we do each time, so I hope you like them. And thanks! Redbreast is one of our favorites. Slainte to you as well!
As someone from Northern Ireland, I want to thank you for researching the background of the song & the video! Best reaction I've seen! Also thank you for showing more of the murals & for your lovely words about what Northern Ireland is like & how great the people are here! I've loved The Cranberries since I was a teen in early 90s. I wonder if I could add some info too... I feel the name given to this time was to downplay it to begin with, so 1 side could show how unaffected they were by anything the other side done, (all sides showing this btw), but it was the innocent people that were suffering from it all. People need to realise the "The Troubles" in Northern Ireland were not just protests & riots or civil unrest, it was a full blown civil war, that continued for over 30yrs & 3500 INNOCENT people died, as a result of the bombs, shootings, beatings' etc. People were 'taken' by the opposite side to be interrogated, most didn't come back & even now their bodies have never been recovered. Young children were recruited by the paramilitaries on both sides too 'join & fight for the cause', whole families got brought in too...they would get into people's heads by claiming it was the right thing, the only thing to do... women involved would use a baby in a pram, to get bombs passed the checks into shops, public transport etc in town/cities. Everyone was stopped & had any bags checked through, just like at an airport customs check...shops banned baby's prams/strollers etc from going in... Towns/cities had barriers to close off them off in the evenings, so vehicles couldn't get in...There were certain areas that we couldn't go into because of fear of attacks, even as kids. Bomb threats & beatings' were common, as was a huge presence of police & army walking/driving around in full body armour & semi-automatic rifles etc. My Mum is a local girl from outside Belfast, my Dad was in the British army at the time(now retired). I've lived in Northern Ireland my whole life, right through the 80s-90s. We would fill the bath with water every night & put several towels in it, just incase our home was 'petrol bombed' (set on fire with a Molotov Cocktail) overnight. The towels were to place over our heads & hold over our mouths & noses, so we could breathe through the smoke, so we could get out of the house. My Dad was told by British army to change his name when he arrived, he had to use his middle name instead, as British army said his 1st name would cause 'issue' with each side in the conflict ... At the start the British army were brought in to help the Catholic side of the community here but it soon shifted to helping the Protestant community instead, then it became a 3way war - with Catholics fighting Protestants/Protestants fighting Catholics & both fighting British army independently of each other as they said the British were protecting the opposite side... Everyday was the same, more anger, more hatred, more fighting. I guess, like many on here, as I was born during it(in 1979), I grew up through it & knew no different, that it was just normal, everyday life here. Now there's been 'peace' for a while, when we look back, we can see just how bad it was. I was sheltered from alot of it, due to where I lived & my family making sure we didn't get pulled in by paramilitary groups. I had a large family with lots of cousins, so we really just played/hung around in family groups, away from other kids. I had a rough childhood, in a war-torn country, but it was still a fun-filled childhood with lots of love & laughter, running about, playing our silly innocent kid games outside... just as long as we stayed within shouting distance from our home & our parents knew where we were & who we were with at all times.
Thank you so much for sharing all of that with us. We wanted to make sure we did this song and video justice because all three of us love it and Dolores so much. And the other reason is because I was so moved by everything I saw, heard, and learned the last time I was in Northern Ireland. (I'm actually in Dublin as I type this. My wife and I are spending NYE here and then heading down to Cork). But I knew that when we were putting this together we'd could never really be able to relate what people went through and he psychic trauma the Troubles still cause because we didn't live it. So I'm always so grateful when commenters from The Republic and Northern Ireland share their experiences on here with us. The thing that really strikes me is your age. I'm a few years older than you, and the only thing I had to be scared of as a child was whether or not I stayed out too late wandering around on our farm and would miss dinner. I cannot imagine having to do all the things you had to do or to have to be worried about all the things you had to worry about. It sounds as if you had really great parents, and I'm happy you had a childhood that was filled with love and fun even though you lived through all that. The other thing that struck me about your comment was the naming of "The Troubles." I think you're absolutely right in that naming it something slightly benign sounding was a way to minimize the horror of it. That weaponization of rhetoric is something we still see today all over the world. Thank you again for checking out our video. I hope you check out more of our stuff and consider subscribing and hanging around. Not all of our stuff is somber like this. Some nights we just have a pint and have fun watching a silly video.
@@LikeMindedLunatics It's great to hear that you & your wife have come back across again. The whole of Ireland is beautiful, both North & South. I'm obviously from the North & still live close to where I grew up, in fact I'm in a village about 7-8 miles away & about 18miles from Belfast, but that's straight up the motorway/freeway for the most part... Next time you're up the north here, we should meet up! I would have loved to grow up on a farm! My perfect ideal home, surrounded by animals, fields &trees! So so perfect! You did do the song brilliant justice & Dolores would be so proud of you for that & for understanding the true meaning & the feelings of the song! I actually feel more now about it than then, as back then it was mainly hidden from me by my parents & my Mum's family. I was always around family in some way & at times my parents took me with them to work, especially if some big had happened in our town, just so I was away from whatever devastation was there. I must say, that even though the fighting was bad & you never knew where was going to be the next bombing target etc, the paramilitaries on both sides acted like 'local authorities' & kept all the 'wee hoods' & other criminals/'bad people' off the streets. There wasn't the huge drug issues, robberies, attacks on women etc. They were in control & everyone knew that if you were a 'bad boy/girl', it was them that would dish out the punishments & their punishments were a lot worse than anything the police could do! I can't imagine what kids now have to deal with though... If they could be attacked with some sort of weapon as they walk down the street or sit in their classrooms at school. We only had 'fire drills' at school. I guess evacuation is evacuation, whether it is for a fire or a bomb... whereas now in the US, kids have to do 'active shooter drills' etc on top of the fire/tornado/hurricane/earthquake drills. Then the peer pressure to take drugs & all that other stuff, the drive-by shootings, night club stabbings etc etc... But now Ireland is a brilliant place to be, so much natural beauty & history here to see & learn with fantastic people, though it might take a while to understand all the accents here & might take a wee while to get to grips with our dry, sarcastic, sometimes morbid sense of humour. We can (& will) 'take the mick' out of anyone at any time, but it's all 'great craic' (in fun/for a laugh/joking about). It's a great place to visit, even tho it's a 'tad on the wet side' a lot of the time, but that's what keeps us so lush & green! If you're up North, you can stay on Belfast & then travel anywhere in the country in a matter of about 2-3hrs, or you can stay in the numerous B&Bs (bed & breakfasts - small, usually family run 'hotels' of sorts) scattered around. If you're up North or down South, try and get some day trips on your itinerary, to the smaller isle of the coast! So it will feel like you have been transported back in time to a much slower, more relaxed way of life & the folk are awesome! Enjoy the rest of your stay in Dublin & then to Cork! It may only be a wee bit down the road, but it's a completely different culture & another accent to get used to! LOL!
Thank so much! We'll definitely be back up around Belfast at some point. This trip is all south, but I want to come back during the summer and do some hiking and stuff in the north. "I actually feel more now about it than then, as back then it was mainly hidden from me by my parents & my Mum's family." That seems to be a common response from folks in the comments. It seems like a lot of parents were trying to insulate their kids from the violence as much as they could.
Cheers for that. We were really worried about this one. We're all massive fans of The Cranberries and Dolores and this song, so we wanted to make sure we did it justice. Thanks for checking it out. If you haven't seen it, we also did a matchup of two different covers of the song. You might like that one as well: th-cam.com/video/M8RpdMp1whE/w-d-xo.html
The most important influence for Dolores O ryordan (The Cranberries) was the sound that had the first albums of Sinead O ' Connor quite angry, rebellious and with a very similar and particular singing. Listening to Sinead's Jerusalem O connor reminds me quite zombie because of the strength and energy it emits when singing it.
I know this video was shot long ago but I just can’t explain how proud I was of your reaction. I watch every reaction to this song and video that I cam and I have never come across such educated and musically educated people. Thank you for doing this. I can’t believe the comments that your reaction pulled into the public light, with so many sharing their own personal experiences. When you spoke about the kids playing with their sticks hitting each other I really felt that they had grown up only in war time and it was practically all that they knew. And that the cherub boys represented the innocence that the children should have had. And when they open their mouths to scream it is like a silent scream, where they’re not truly being heard, as the real children weren’t turn all this time. Thank you again and I remember like one of you was at school for music during this time I was also in New York City studying at Juilliard and I saw the cranberries in late 1995 at the Beacon theater. Not having seen the video for the song at the time it’s still hit so hard especially live and will live in my memory forever.✌️🫶🏻
Thank you so much, Amy. We prepped quite a bit for this reaction because all of us are huge fans of both the song and Dolores and we wanted to make sure we did it justice. I'm happy this video is still resonating with people, and going though the comments of this one always makes me tear up a little. 3/4 of our group are college professors, and all of us are stage performers (improv, comedy, musicians, etc.), and when COVID hit and we were no longer able to perform, we wanted to do something to keep our chops in front of audiences sharp. I start doing music reactions because I really missed what it was like sitting on the couch with friends watching videos. Sometimes we had beers and laughed. Sometimes we were melancholy. And sometimes we were sad. But it was always a shared experience with friends. So I'm really happy this reaction has created a shared experience for a lot of folks. Thank you for checking it out and leaving us a comment. I'm so happy for you that you had a chance to see the Cranberries. I dearly wish I'd been able to. I hope you check out our other content and consider subscribing if you haven't already. Take care.
What a great job you guys did. This video has so much to unwrap. The children playing like soldiers is such a real and hard thing to watch. You know how real it is. Especially because they probably didn't exactly have a playground with swing sets and such to play on in the neighborhood.
Born in Belfast in 1968 my childhood/teenage years was the troubles, terrible times and countless families suffered on both sides... The thing about Belfast people is our resilience, our humour (that may sound strange) but it sometimes got us through the worst of times... I'm so glad you mentioned our friendliness , and am glad you enjoyed it here.. This song and video is an absolute masterpiece , check out the cranberries singing it live in Warsaw, goosebumps !! Really enjoyed this reaction, subscribed....
Thank you for the kind words, Julie. We wanted to make sure we did this one justice because we're huge fans of both this song and Dolores. "our humour (that may sound strange) but it sometimes got us through the worst of times" That doesn't sound strange at all. The amount of trauma from The Troubles is just soul-crushing, but the resilience of folks like you who made it through speaks to the strength of the human spirit. Yeah I think we've seen most of the TH-cam videos of Dolores performing this song live. The world is a lesser place without her in it. And yes, my wife and I absolutely loved Belfast. The people there were just lovely. We're actually going to be back in The Republic of Ireland for Christmas and New Year's. We're starting in Dublin then getting a car and driving down south for a bit. I can't wait. I hope you have a great Christmas and holiday season. Thank you for subscribing. We're glad you're here.
Brit here. You guys were sooo close to getting this song. What you missed is that UK was saturated in American music, especially grunge and its derivative sounds, at this time. It must have seemed suffocating to Dolores given the message she wanted to convey. So she broke through all that four-chord noise by doing her own four-chord noise, in her own unique voice. Once you have that final jigsaw piece, this song will finally make full sense to you, and be all the more powerful for it. Thanks for the react, god bless x
As others have said, this is the best reaction video on the internet to this incomparable song. Thank you for putting in the work and for sharing all your knowledge and experience. 🏆
That is really, really kind. Thank you so much. We love both the song and Dolores so much that we really wanted to do them justice with the video. It's gratifying to see so many people are enjoying it.
Thank you so much! We're really glad you liked the video. We were worried about doing this one justice, so we made sure to do plenty of prep. Ricky is actually a professor of music at Texas State University, so he always helps with the research into the music. And Jim was a history major, so he's a big help with getting time lines correct. Thanks again for checking this one out. I hope you check out some of our 9thet videos too.
@@LikeMindedLunatics As for the song,, Zombies are creatures without brains who only kill (and without remorse). The answer to her question, "What's in your head, Zombie," is "Nothing."
That's a really good point. Ricky and I have discussed that a lot. Some of the most iconic songs are "simple" by most musical standards, but it just goes to show that amazing art doesn't have to be complicated. Thanks for checking this one out.
6:23 From what I read in the past, they were basing the aesthetics on _The Pietà_ from Michelangelo. Which fits the theme of a mother in mourning, and then they gave it their own touch to allow other messages too.
You guys certainly done your homework on the back story to what this song is all about.Powerful stuff and your research is the best i have heard anyone do, so thanks guy, and yes Dolores is so sadly missed. She had an amazing voice.
Thank you so much. I'm glad you liked this video. We all three adore this song and miss Delores so much that we wanted to make sure we did it justice, so I'm glad to resonated with you. I hope you check out more of our content and consider subscribing if you haven't already.
Thank you for your research. I was in Warrington the day before Johnathan and Tim were so cowardly taken. I was with my kids who were the same age. I have grandchildren now, Colin and Johnathan’s parents will never experience that. Dolores wrote this in anger. Fact. Their music company offered them a cheque for £1 million not to release it. Dolores, bless her sweet soul, tore it up. RIP Jonathan, Tim and the wonderful Dolores. Thank you for your great research into keening. I’m not Irish, but this song is so important to us.
I'm so sorry for the all the shock and hurt being that close to the event must have caused you and all the other folks affected by it. The loss of life due to the events surrounding the Warrington bombings, especially the loss of life of children, is really hard to comprehend. I'm glad you thought we did the song justice. Of all the reactions we've done, I was most worried about this one. I wanted to make sure we did it justice. I hope you check out some of our other content, too. Some of the videos we do deep dives like this; others we just have a beer and watch a fun video together. If you like the other content, I hope you subscribe and continue to hang out with us.
@@LikeMindedLunatics Yeah the repitition of bombs is deliberate but it was because there were two bombs that happened less than a minute apart and less than 100m apart.
The best read on this song by an absaloute country mile. Well done lads. Interesting piece of info for you; the same guy who directed Smells Like Teen Spirit by Nirvanah directed this video also. His second name was Bayer. Very well researched guys, congratulations from this Irish Bùchal on great work. Other reactions frustrate the feck out of me 🇮🇪 🙌☘️
Aww man, what a kind comment. Thank you so much. This video doesn't have as many views as we'd like, but I'm so happy that all the Irish folks who've watched it have said kind things about our reaction. We love this song and video so much, and wanted to make sure we did it justice. So I'm glad you think we did. Cheers, my friend. We didn't realize the director had also done "Smells Like Teen Spirit." That's so amazing. Thank you for letting us know. And I hope you check out some of our other content and if you like what we're doing, hit the subscribe button and stick around.
Weirdly enough, as a guy from Czech Republic who didn't know much about the Ireland or The Cranberries back then, I grew up hearing the song in radios or in a pub and I didn't pay much attention to the lyrics back then, only the "in your head" part was iconic for this song so I remembered it. But now, I know almost all about it, having watched many reactions, comments, explanations and interpretations, this song is one of my most favorite ones.
I think that's one of the signs of high art. When the piece of art still resonates with someone even if they don't know the history/intentions of the artist, that, to me, is the sign of a true piece of art.
Another Irish person chipping in to salute a superb job. Great research, delivery of information and playing at the end. Being from Limerick, my first ever gig was going as a 16yr old with my schoolmates to see them in 93. It was their triumphant homecoming from the United States, to a 1000 standing only theatre, after selling over a million copies of their debut and doing well if not cracking the States. Tickets were surprisingly easy to get. Great first gig as gigs go. Edited to say 'Liked and Subscribed'
Thank you so much. I'm really glad this reaction has resonated so well with Irish folks. We really wanted to do it justice. I'm so jealous you had the opportunity to see them live. What a memory that must be. It's funny you mention Limerick. My wife and I are in Cork right now and passed through there yesterday. We were in Dublin for the new year, and we saw Kingfishr, a Limerick band, play at the celebration. They were outstanding. I hope to cover some of their music in the future. Thank you for subscribing! I'm glad you're here with us!
Thank you for watching. We wanted to make sure we did justice to the song, video, and Delores. We're glad you liked it. I hope you check out some of our other content, and if you haven't already, subscribe and stick around the channel.
Master video guys, respect to your emotions to a very emotional song/truth. Dolores RIP was unique, if she was (which she was) a piece of art, she would be the Mona Lisa, love from Ireland
Thanks very much. It was really important to us that we did a good job on this one, and I'm glad you think we did. And I love Ireland a lot. My wife and I have spent a lot of time there. We were actually in Ireland for the New Year this year. Much love at you from Austin. I hope you check out more of our content and consider subscribing.
For me this hits different... I lost my little and my big sister 2 years ago... Both loved this Song... I listening to this many many times and will never stop it...
What a great analysis and very good information about this song, I discovered it for the first time at the end of the 90s and I had goosebumps, from that moment I became interested in knowing all of her music and today I am a fan of everything Dolores has done O'Riordan for music. RIP 🔥♥️🔥
Very informative reaction, fellas!!! Great song and the input of the historical perspective was excellent. While we are on the throes of the madness of WW IV, this is very timely. American retired Veteran of Irish descent here. Kudos to this outstanding reaction!!
Thank you so much. Thank you for watching this one and commemorating the horrific events of 1993 with us. And we actually recorded this several weeks ago knowing we'd publish it today to honor those lives lost in the Warrington bombings. None of us could have guessed we'd be publishing it the day after Russia attacked a sovereign nation and innocent lives are once again being lost. Our hearts go out to our brothers and sisters losing their lives over this. And thanks again. We hope you check out some of our other stuff.
I always hear the drums in the opening of this song and throughout as the rat-a-tat of gunfire. A background sound the people would be all too familiar with.
Exactly what I’ve always associated the sound with. The whole way through the song they keep the drum making that short, sharp burst, especially with the fast repeated beats, as you say, rat-a-tat of gunfire.
Thank you so much. We really wanted to make sure we did this beautiful song and video justice. We appreciate you checking it out. I hope you check out some of our other content, and if you like our other stuff, consider hitting the subscribe button.
Awesome video, thank you for leading me to this wonderful information. When this song first came out, my family wouldn't listen to it, they said it caused too much 'proxy guilt', we are Irish (my grand parents are the McQueens and the McDaniels) and we didn't take part in the violence, but that doesn't stop the feelings.
Thank you so much. I'm glad you thought this one turned out okay. We wanted to make sure we didn't screw this one up. "they said it caused too much 'proxy guilt'" That's really tough. We read and watched a lot of interviews with Delores, and those two lines "But you see, it's not me / It's not my family" were essentially touching on that same feeling.
Really enjoyed your interpretation of this song, you clearly looked into the story behind the song, the lyrics and style of Delores's singing. 10/10. Well done to u all, brilliant.
Thank you so much! We're all huge fans of the song and we wanted to make sure we did it justice. I'm glad you enjoyed it. I hope you check out some of our other content, too.
I've never commented on any forum before but you treated this song, which I would consider to be a work of art and a very accurate narrative of it's time, the absolute respect it deserves....so thank you.
There's a vid of The Cranberries performing this live in '99. Dolores and the audience seemed happy and to enjoy singing this song. She mentioned how things in Ireland were looking more peaceful than they had for a very long time which I think allowed her to be more lighthearted. But now, between war in Ukraine and school shootings in the US this song takes on every bit of its original weight, plus some. Bad Wolves released a cover in '18 but a fresh cover would be great. I'd love it if Disturbed took a crack at it.
We recorded this episode roughly 2-3 weeks before Russia's invasion of Ukraine. We had no clue this episode would become so timely. And now after the shooting in Uvalde, it seems timely and close to home. Jim leaves in San Antonio, Ricky and I are near Austin, and we're all teachers. It's been awful here. I remember James Hetfield talking about music, and one of the things he said was that, for him, music was a way for him to understand and process the things he was feeling in a healthy way. It allowed him to deal with feelings he didn't understand. This is one of those songs. It's a gorgeous and heart-breaking song, and the world is a lesser place without Dolores in it. Thanks for checking this one out. And I already took a look at the Bad Wolves version, but I compared it to a cover by Miley Cyrus, which, if you haven't heard it, is stunning. Here's the link: th-cam.com/video/M8RpdMp1whE/w-d-xo.html
So good to hear people from the US who really understand what the song is about and also about Irish music - I learnt quite a few things myself! Sometimes Americans only know bits and pieces or have a one sided view or are afraid to say to much and say the wrong thing, but it's something that deserves to be fully understood. I mean the Good Friday agreement wasn't that long after this song it probably was one of the things that contributed to a change in people's thinking and ended a conflict that had been going on for decades. Imagine if peaceful resolutions to other conflicts could brought about by music!
this is educational video for me concerning the voice lament. I'm from Liverpool from Irish descent (many Liverpudlians are). Thanks for the information about the vocal! (keening)
I'm glad you liked this one! We did a lot of prep for the video, so it's nice to see it's resonating with folks. I hope you check out some of our other content, too. Some of our videos we do deep dives like we did in this one. Other times we pop a beer and watch a fun or silly video and hang out.
I take my hat off very high for your research work prior to this reaction. A professor once told me: “A text out of context is just a pretext.” For years, I listened to this song without knowing the context (the tragic events) that inspired it. The context explains the way of playing of drummer Fergal "Patrick" Lawler, who seems to rage against this murderous madness.
That's a very kind comment. Thank you. We wanted to make sure we did this song justice, so it makes us very happy to see so many people liked this video. I hope you check out more of our material. Sometimes we just have beers and watch a fun video, but when the music and video warrant it, we try to dive deep like we did in this one. And if you haven't already, please hit the subscribe button. It would help us out a lot. Thanks again.
"I'd actually like to sit down with you drink and talk" You couldn't have paid us a higher compliment. Thank you. We started this channel because everyone here at LML are live performers in some capacity (music, improv, storytelling, etc) and when COVID hit, we obviously couldn't perform anymore. So we wanted a way to keep our performance chops sharp while also still hanging out with people. And I intentionally wanted to do something different from other reactors who just go "That was AWESOME! Like and subscribe and tell me what to watch next! I intentionally wanted to capture what it was like hanging out with friends and watching MTV. We'd drink, snack, and hang out. Sometimes the videos would be heavy like this and we'd have deep serious conversations, and other times it would be Winger doing "Eighteen" and we'd laugh and make fun of it and slam beers. But the important thing was hanging out with friends and sharing videos. So saying you like to hang out and have a drink is literally the highest compliment you could've paid. Cheers my friend. I hope you've subbed to the channel and keep hanging out.
When Cain murdered Abel, the first murder, God said to Cain, "Abel's innocent blood is crying out to me". That's what I think of when they show the kid falling and the dead version of him screaming out.
Thank you, Flo. We had no idea when we filmed this reaction that the world would be where it's at the moment. I'm glad you think this one turned out okay.
RIP Dolores. Lived across the water in south west Scotland from Belfast for most of my life. Can't begin to describe how horrifically violent it was there. Every news programme. someone killed, kneecapped, assassinated. Fucking nightmare.
And you only seen the parts the media (government) wanted you to see. So you can imagine the full picture I grew up in Belfast and living in Scotland for many years now. I’ve learned over the years that only a few carefully chosen stories ever made it to the news on STV and certainly not to the BBC. That would NOT have kept with the narrative of the time. It’s all coming out these days though.
You talked about the imagery of the kids and the weapons in gold. I have pondered that meaning for a long time with no firm conclusions. I will tell you that I remember interviews of the Irish peace negotiators talking about not wanting another generation of children growing up in the state of war.
Thank you! We're glad you liked this one. I felt like we had to bring out the good whisky for this one. I hope you check out some of our other videos, and if you like what we're doing, hit the subscribe button and stick around.
I'm so sorry. That's terrible. And in the States, we obviously heard about the bombings, but I can't imagine having to try and go about your during The Troubles.
@@LikeMindedLunatics Thx, He is very well. . He was imprisoned a good while, released and came to the U.S. to be with his family in Philadelphia. The Mayor had a parade for him because every church in the city was praying for his release. The children will never be forgotten 🇮🇪♡.🇮🇪 1-30-1972
When I was 18,I was working in a holiday camp for the Summer before going to Uni and I had a summer fling with a beautiful Irish boy who went back to Ireland when’the Troubles’ started,I often think of him.
@15:02 is what got this video banned by the BBC and it’s Irish counterpart, the RTE. They did not like that the video implied that the British Army shot children. And of course, I don’t know if that ever actually happened. One hopes it did not.
Unfortunately It did happen 😢 One occasion that involved children was The Ballymurphy Massacre in July 1972. The army set up in a timber yard just a few yards down the road from where the kids are playing in the video, they fired down the streets that ran perpendicular or close enough so they could fire all the way to the chapel at the other end. The streets were rebuilt in a different direction in late 80s early 90s if I remember rightly. The soldiers in the video are patrolling Springfield Road. (Falls Road side of the wall for those unfamiliar with the other roads😅)
Why do I only found this channel now??? The most amazing and informative reaction 💜 you guys are amazing. And I found you because I love this band, I only started learning guitar because I listened to The Cranberries as a kid and I wanted to kinda be like Dolores haha she was an amazing human being and artist
Thank you so much! I'm glad you found us. I (this is Mark) recently started trying to learn guitar, too! Ricky helps me out. I hope you check out some of our other content as well, and if you haven't already, hit the subscribe button.
UNA GRAN CANTANTE CON UNA VOZ IRISH ÚNICA . UNA LETRA CRUDA PERO VERDADERA. HERMOSA DOLORES O'ROINDAN EN TODO LO QUÉ HACÍA. FANTÁSTICA CANCIÓN 🇦🇷👏 I ❤️ THE CRAMBERRIES ALWAYS 👌 BUENA REACCIÓN.GRACIAS POR RECORDARLA. I ❤️ THEM 🌠
I'm Irish, I lived in Ireland all my life, and I'll give you a song to look up (Finbar Fury ft Christy Dignam = Green fields of France) Live on the late late show... its a powerfull Irish song.. please enjoy❤️❤️🇮🇪🇮🇪
Great breakdown. In terms of the cross, it can be seen as the Celtic cross, which dates pre Catholic reformation, so in essence stating “We are the same.” I really appreciate your exploring keening; I studied it in depth for a role I performed in an Irish play. Also might mention the 1916 Easter uprising, and the potato famine, during which all Irish agricultural products - plant, dairy and meat - were appropriated at gun point by the British monarchy, and distributed in England, leaving the Irish only potatoes to eat.
So, a group of lads in Limerick were looking for a lead singer. They were told that a girl who sings in the local church choir might be good. They were skeptical, but agreed to give her a listen. And this shy, young woman turned up. She was so, so shy. And she was magnificent. And she was Dolores. That is one hell of a reaction, guys. Bravo.
"And this shy, young woman turned up. She was so, so shy. And she was magnificent. And she was Dolores." I don't know why, but the way you wrote that was so beautiful and it kind of made me tear up. I think I said this in the video, but it hurts my heart knowing that Delores is no longer with us. The world is a lesser place without her in it. And thank you. I'm glad you liked this one. I hope you check out some of our other content too.
@LikeMindedLunatics Best reaction of this song I’ve seen. Well researched and a decent try at understanding what’s being said and shown! That’s my wee hometown and that was my childhood and those soldiers and their guns were a very normal sight. Intimidating but very normal. One other commenter mentioned Dolores at the cross being the motherland losing her children. Good interpretation of that, there’s a song written by Tommy Makem (and covered by everyone and their granny 😂) Four Green Fields, from the POV of Ireland as an old woman who lost her children and it honestly is one of the most beautiful, powerful songs I’ve heard. The version I grew up with was by The Dubliners and it’ll always be my favourite. but there are so many great versions. Not sure there’s a video other than folk singing it but worth a listen anyway even if not a reaction 😊
Irish American, and I've subscribed because you didnt just say yodeling, you know its keening and you explained it. And back in the day, if you could afford it, you could hire professional keeners if someone in the family died.
"Irish American, and I've subscribed because you didnt just say yodeling, you know its keening and you explained it" Thank you. I'm glad we did an okay job. We all three love this song, and Ricky is actually a prof of music at Texas State, so we wanted to make sure we did it justice. I hope you enjoy our other videos as well.
@@LikeMindedLunatics ooooh educated and informed reactions: hard to turn down. I'll have to go digging through your page and see if you've done anything on The Offspring (that's not just Pretty Fly for a White Guy). I believe 3 of the 4 of them have doctorates in music/music theory, and the 4th guy has a master's maybe. I just know I've never stopped being a fan, and when you listen to them in the car or with headphones and can really get the depth of the music, it sounds composed.
We've actually only done one video on The Offspring, and it was a special video to help benefit a local charity. I keep meaning to do a Ladi's Rockucation series on them (one of our group members knows NOTHING about rock, so I'm doing a series where I "rockucate" him), but I just haven't got around to it. Here's the video we covered. It's a fun one, but we don't really dive deep: th-cam.com/video/WbG5fACW-Og/w-d-xo.html
When I 1st heard this song I immediately loved it and was sad as well, Dolores O'Riordan has an absolutely amazing voice and her keening is beautiful, I've always loved Ireland and Scotland cause both countries r so beautiful in culture and music as well as their language, and when I learned that this song was about what happened with the IRA and in England I felt bad for all those ppl and children that were victims & this song being played is fitting for what is currently happening over in Ukraine which is sad cause of Russia and im an American whose part Russian and I fell bad for everyone in Ukraine for whats happening, I will always love this song this band and this amazing lead singer, love this reaction its amazing
We're so glad you liked this reaction. We all really love this song, and we wanted to make sure our reaction demonstrated our love for it and Delores O'Riordan. And we had no idea when we were filming this that we'd release it into a world where another humanitarian tragedy is taking place. Thank you for watching and being a subscriber. Take care.
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed this one. I hope you check out some of our other content as well. We don't do deep dives into everything, but we always try to have fun.
In an interview it was said that the IRA always said we. Delores was clarifying that she and her family didn't agree with the violence.. it's not me...
I knew about Delores wanting to distance herself from the actions of the IRA, but I didn't know that the IRA tended to use first person plural like that. Makes sense why Delores would write the song from that perspective. Thanks for commenting.
I hope that Glencairn was empty when it fell to the floor! Approve of your choice of Redbreast. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is the first Irish music video. I'm 72 and remember the emotions it evoked, I rarely get through the video without tearing up. It is believed to be the catalyst that brought the IRA to negotiations and a peace of sorts to Belfast. You guys did a great job covering it. Cheers, "One for the Living, One for the Dead. Rightly said". Sla'inte
What a kind comment. Sla'inte my friend. Yeah, the glencairn was empty! Thank goodness. Redbreast is probably our favorite Irish whiskey, but we were in Dublin and Cork for the new year, and we had a fair amount of Red Spot and boy it was tasty too. I'm glad you thought we did an okay job with this one. We all three love this song and hold such a high regard for it that we were really worried about putting this one together. And if the song/video helped move towards peace in any why whatsoever what an amazing legacy.
I'm so glad you enjoyed our reaction. This is such an important song that we wanted to make sure we did it justice. I hope you take a look at some of our other videos, too.
@@LikeMindedLunatics yes, I will. This is more than a simple reaction. Congrats! Check more Cranberries, this is the big hit but there’s a lot of great songs
Thank you so much! We all love The Cranberries and are familiar with their music. In fact, Ricky used to cover them when he was a gigging musician. It's his guitar you hear at the end of the video with pics from Belfast.
Delores wrote this song after the IRA bombing of Warrington in March 1993, this bombing killed 2 young children age 3 and 12 (I think). As a woman of Irish decent I can understand her sentiment in this song. The same old thing thing since 1916 I reference to the Easter rising in Dublin which was a blood bath. Ireland has been a hot bed of religious sectarianism for decades. Protestants and Catholics living in separate areas, god help anyone that fell in love with the opposite side of the street! It's not quite as bad a it was in the 60's -90's. Prejudice still exists everywhere sadly.
Fin reacting. The song was written in response to the death of Johnathan Ball, 3, and Tim Parry, 12, who had been killed in the IRA bombing in Warrington, northwest England, when two devices hidden in litter bins were detonated.
Thank you so much. I'm glad this reaction resonated. We wanted to make sure we did it justice. And yes. Such an absolute tragedy. Thanks for commenting.
The best reaction video I have seen on this subject. Knowledgeable and insightful as to the situation then....and now with what is happening in my adopted home of Ukraine
The imagery of the children fighting and the 'cherubs' crying out is to do with the circle of violence that was going on for decades. Children being brought up in a climate of hate and fear and that violence and fighting is the only answer, and causing the loss of innocent lives. I think that's when people thought enough is enough we can't go on doing this to our children and poisoning society we have to find a way to forgive and find a way for all sides to live together.
Wow I loved all the info. You guys provided during this video. And knowing the facts. Next you should check out Bad Wolves cover of this song. Delores was supposed to be on it. And died right before sadly. They did a beautiful tribute to her in the video.
Thank you so much. We're glad you liked this video, and we hope you check out some of our other content and consider subscribing. Mark featured the Bad Wolves version on a matchup that we posted the week after this video. You can check that video out here: th-cam.com/video/M8RpdMp1whE/w-d-xo.html
Thank you. We tried to make sure we did a little bit of research for this one. I'm glad you liked it. I hope you check out some of our other content too.
I think the imagery of the innocent kids starting off quite angelic in chrub-like poses gradually changes to match the postures of the soldiers. The Cupid's arrow type of imagery at the beginning definitely changes to match the way the soldiers typically hold their guns when walking through trouble areas in the North back then. Where the video is paused at 12:00, the frame is an almost exact match of the soldier pointing his gun at the camera moments before. And then to despair...it's a cycle of indoctrination.
Delores had a falling out w/family. A Children's Services took her 3 kids in real life, true, read about. Delores took her life, Substance abuse, Suicide /Combo. R.I.P, I been in the position and am lucky to still be here to even type this, peace,
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In the realm of high art and interpretation...She might be representing Eriu or Danu, each one a mother goddess in Irish and Celtic folklore. The children are being sacrificed/crucified on the cross of violent disagreement of Catholic and Protestant religious differences and the Irish rebellion (Easter Uprising in 1916). The "adults" who having been unable to settle the differences caused by the religious separation and English occupation of Ireland had perpetrated a cycle of unending violence that would suck in the children of each generation (another child slowly taken) until they became Zombie soldiers in the cycle, perpetrating the next round of violence and terrorism and creating a self-perpetuating, self-fulfilling prophecy of violence. With each generation's children lost to the inferno, they are screaming in the loss of their lives and innocence. So Ireland being crucified in the cycle of violence, brought on by religious war and British occupation.
"She might be representing Eriu or Danu, each one a mother goddess in Irish and Celtic folklore" That's a fantastic interpretation. The song is so rooted in real-life events I didn't even try to any other interpretation, but linking this to Celtic folklore makes a lot of sense to.
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As an irish person I'm so grateful you guys did so much research on this. I went to the same girls Catholic school as Dolores years after her. She wrote a letter to us that was framed in a glass case. It was something like 'reach for the stars girls'. You guys have hit it with the keening. She was in the same choir as me. The nuns would force the irish accent out of you but Dolores kept her limerick accent. They wanted us to sound British. She was irish protest music ❤️😍🍀🐈
Thank you so much. We were actually pretty worried about this one because we all love the song so much, and when Dolores passed we were devastated. We wanted to make sure we did both her and the song justice with our reaction, so hearing all the positive comments from Irish folks makes us happy we didn't screw this one up.
"I went to the same girls Catholic school as Dolores years after her. She wrote a letter to us that was framed in a glass case. It was something like 'reach for the stars girls'. You guys have hit it with the keening. She was in the same choir as me. The nuns would force the irish accent out of you but Dolores kept her limerick accent. They wanted us to sound British. She was irish protest music"
That is so very cool. What an amazing memory you have, and it's so touching Dolores wrote a letter for the school.
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I grew up being taught by my teachers that the Catholics were trying to kill us. That was in Scotland.
I love your comment and agree totally.
What I love about the song and video is that the lyrics are about a PIRA atrocity and the video depicts a British atrocity.
Both sides killed children. One side stuck in 1916 and the other stuck on the Boyne. We were zombies.
This is the most honest and studied reaction ever. You guys are professionals and above everything else in TH-cam.
As an Irish person this is the best reaction i have seen regarding this video. Your research and interpretation is spot on. Thank you.
That's really good to hear. Thank you so much.
If you haven't seen it, I also did a matchup between "Zombie" covers. You might enjoy that video as well: th-cam.com/video/M8RpdMp1whE/w-d-xo.html
Thank you again.
I was born in Belfast, near the Falls Road, 3 years before the Troubles began and I lived through the worst of times, which really only stopped thanks to the Good Friday Agreement in 1998. Thank you for such an insightful review of this beautiful song. I pray to God that we don’t ever go back to those dark times.
Thank you for commenting, and I'm glad this video turned out okay. I knew going into it that I wanted to make sure we treated it with the reverence it deserved.
I'm so sorry you lived through those times. Like I said in the video, my wife and I spent some time in Belfast, and it was much more emotional for us than I had anticipated. I pray we don't go back to those times as well.
Thanks again for checking this one out. I hope you take a look at some of our other content, too.
I have always considered this video as an audio/visual masterpiece and your reaction is the 3rd component to complete this. With research and personal experience this reaction was nailed. Other reactors are in tears and ask for a comment on the context of the video. You guys know the history! You share knowledge and emotions in a very sincere way. I really enjoyed this!
That's a really kind comment. Thank you so much. All three of us are fans of this song and wanted to make sure we did it justice with our reaction, so I'm glad you liked it. I hope you check out some of our other content, and if you liked what we're doing, hit the subscribe button and hang around with us.
Me an Irish person who has seen this many times learned things. Only video that added to my understanding
You have added a comment that sums up the reaction perfectly. Couldn’t have put it better myself, I think if you’re going to do a reaction you should do some sort of research on it first and then listen to it. Would make it much better to watch.
@@oisinquinn9469 Cheers for that Oisin. We wanted to make sure we did this one justice, and I'm glad you think we did. I love Ireland (we spent New Year's in Dublin and Cork) and I was really nervous about getting this one right.
@@sharpy1695 Thank you Sharpy. We do have quite a few 1st look reactions on this channel, but for songs/videos I know hold special meaning I try to do my best to at least look into them a little to try and understand them the best I can. It helps having Ricky on here. He's a prof. of music at Texas State, so he helps out a lot.
I have watched countless reactions of this song as I love the song and this is by far the best. Dolores will always live on through her music. Another Irish viewer
Thanks, John. We're really glad you liked our video. We worked pretty hard to put together something that we thought would honor both the song and Dolores.
I hope you hit the subscribe button and check out some of our other content. It's not all serious like this, but we always try to have fun.
@@LikeMindedLunatics I have subscribed 😁
Cheers, John! Thank you so much! We're glad you're sticking around!
Tim Parry ( 12 ) and Jonathan Ball ( 3 ) remember their names 😞😞
From Limerick; Dalores O'Riordan, had a rough start in life. Her Dad suffered severe cognitive impairment in a motorcycle accident and she was kidnapped and raped when she was a young girl. She struggled with PTSD from the kidnapping most of her life. She wrote Zombie after a sectarian bombing in London, which recalled other attacks in Belfast including a trash bin bombing that killed two children and wounded several others. Dalores targeted those who were profiting from the violence, labeling them, "Zombies." The song became an Irish anthem for peace, then a world anthem for peace and helped pressure both sides into negotiations. Paramilitary leaders, both credited her with having great influence in the process and criticized her for it as well. Some even threatened her. She died in her London hotel bathtub prior to recording the reboot of Zombie with Bad Wolves. No autopsy was performed, but the likelihood of suicide or homicide was strong. Either way, Ireland's little hero and peace martyr finally had her rest.
During the late 80's I was working with a group that had partnered with people exhausted from the violence In Northern Ireland. Our plan was to integrate protestant and catholic children's schools in Belfast suburbs and to push the US government to send a peace delegation to Northern Ireland. Though there was much resistance to integration, neighborhoods that achieved integration saw violence diminish. Clinton eventually sent Mitchell and the IRA had amassed an arsenal that leveled the killing fields. All along the way Dalores O'Riordan's song kept the pressure on. The accords were signed and the bombing stopped.
In the song, Dreams you hear more of her keening than in Zombie. This is an ancient style of Irish singing. Dreams was used at the end of the first Mission Impossible movie. It's Dreams that causes me to grieve her passing more than any other song.
Thank you for the work you did in helping achieve some peace during such a violent and turbulent time for Ireland. As I said in the video, my wife and I were overwhelmed when we visited Belfast.
We'll have to cover "Dreams" at some point. It's also a gorgeous song, and O'Riordan is fantastic in it. The world is a lesser place without her here.
I'm a hairdresser I was doing a costumers hair from the bog side .she told me her son was run over with a landsrover British. Her son was 4 or 5 .he was playing football outside her home .thy pulled in didn't stop ran over him .then revirst over him .she was at the window couldn't move . couldn't believe it . And I asked her how can she forgive them .she said .I pray for them . That wasn't my pain to carry.
"That wasn't my pain to carry."
What a heatbreaking statement. No, it absolutely wasn't. I hope you're doing well.
Dolores O'Riordan also had a very thick Western Ireland accent and it bleeds through in her singing that adds to what makes her voice so unique
Yeah, you're absolutely right. She was such a talented, unique singer. It's still unbelievable she's no longer with us. The world is a lesser place without her in it.
Never heard that traditional keening recording before and I am beyond in awe, what a gem of a recording
Yeah, I'm so glad we have some of that stuff preserved.
Best researched & thoughtful commentary I’ve heard anyone do yet And you pronounced The lead singers name perfectly too! Thoroughly enjoyed that review, checking out some more your reviews to educate myself on some of the other songs/bands. Nice whiskey by the way, slainte
Wow what a kind compliment. Thank you so much.
I hope you enjoy our other content. We do deep dives on some videos like this one, and then other times we just pick an interesting music video, have a beer, and have fun. So not all of them are like this one, but we try to vary what we do each time, so I hope you like them.
And thanks! Redbreast is one of our favorites. Slainte to you as well!
As someone from Northern Ireland, I want to thank you for researching the background of the song & the video! Best reaction I've seen! Also thank you for showing more of the murals & for your lovely words about what Northern Ireland is like & how great the people are here! I've loved The Cranberries since I was a teen in early 90s.
I wonder if I could add some info too... I feel the name given to this time was to downplay it to begin with, so 1 side could show how unaffected they were by anything the other side done, (all sides showing this btw), but it was the innocent people that were suffering from it all. People need to realise the "The Troubles" in Northern Ireland were not just protests & riots or civil unrest, it was a full blown civil war, that continued for over 30yrs & 3500 INNOCENT people died, as a result of the bombs, shootings, beatings' etc. People were 'taken' by the opposite side to be interrogated, most didn't come back & even now their bodies have never been recovered. Young children were recruited by the paramilitaries on both sides too 'join & fight for the cause', whole families got brought in too...they would get into people's heads by claiming it was the right thing, the only thing to do... women involved would use a baby in a pram, to get bombs passed the checks into shops, public transport etc in town/cities. Everyone was stopped & had any bags checked through, just like at an airport customs check...shops banned baby's prams/strollers etc from going in... Towns/cities had barriers to close off them off in the evenings, so vehicles couldn't get in...There were certain areas that we couldn't go into because of fear of attacks, even as kids. Bomb threats & beatings' were common, as was a huge presence of police & army walking/driving around in full body armour & semi-automatic rifles etc.
My Mum is a local girl from outside Belfast, my Dad was in the British army at the time(now retired). I've lived in Northern Ireland my whole life, right through the 80s-90s. We would fill the bath with water every night & put several towels in it, just incase our home was 'petrol bombed' (set on fire with a Molotov Cocktail) overnight. The towels were to place over our heads & hold over our mouths & noses, so we could breathe through the smoke, so we could get out of the house. My Dad was told by British army to change his name when he arrived, he had to use his middle name instead, as British army said his 1st name would cause 'issue' with each side in the conflict ...
At the start the British army were brought in to help the Catholic side of the community here but it soon shifted to helping the Protestant community instead, then it became a 3way war - with Catholics fighting Protestants/Protestants fighting Catholics & both fighting British army independently of each other as they said the British were protecting the opposite side... Everyday was the same, more anger, more hatred, more fighting. I guess, like many on here, as I was born during it(in 1979), I grew up through it & knew no different, that it was just normal, everyday life here. Now there's been 'peace' for a while, when we look back, we can see just how bad it was. I was sheltered from alot of it, due to where I lived & my family making sure we didn't get pulled in by paramilitary groups. I had a large family with lots of cousins, so we really just played/hung around in family groups, away from other kids. I had a rough childhood, in a war-torn country, but it was still a fun-filled childhood with lots of love & laughter, running about, playing our silly innocent kid games outside... just as long as we stayed within shouting distance from our home & our parents knew where we were & who we were with at all times.
Thank you so much for sharing all of that with us. We wanted to make sure we did this song and video justice because all three of us love it and Dolores so much. And the other reason is because I was so moved by everything I saw, heard, and learned the last time I was in Northern Ireland. (I'm actually in Dublin as I type this. My wife and I are spending NYE here and then heading down to Cork).
But I knew that when we were putting this together we'd could never really be able to relate what people went through and he psychic trauma the Troubles still cause because we didn't live it. So I'm always so grateful when commenters from The Republic and Northern Ireland share their experiences on here with us.
The thing that really strikes me is your age. I'm a few years older than you, and the only thing I had to be scared of as a child was whether or not I stayed out too late wandering around on our farm and would miss dinner. I cannot imagine having to do all the things you had to do or to have to be worried about all the things you had to worry about. It sounds as if you had really great parents, and I'm happy you had a childhood that was filled with love and fun even though you lived through all that.
The other thing that struck me about your comment was the naming of "The Troubles." I think you're absolutely right in that naming it something slightly benign sounding was a way to minimize the horror of it. That weaponization of rhetoric is something we still see today all over the world.
Thank you again for checking out our video. I hope you check out more of our stuff and consider subscribing and hanging around. Not all of our stuff is somber like this. Some nights we just have a pint and have fun watching a silly video.
@@LikeMindedLunatics It's great to hear that you & your wife have come back across again. The whole of Ireland is beautiful, both North & South. I'm obviously from the North & still live close to where I grew up, in fact I'm in a village about 7-8 miles away & about 18miles from Belfast, but that's straight up the motorway/freeway for the most part... Next time you're up the north here, we should meet up! I would have loved to grow up on a farm! My perfect ideal home, surrounded by animals, fields &trees! So so perfect!
You did do the song brilliant justice & Dolores would be so proud of you for that & for understanding the true meaning & the feelings of the song!
I actually feel more now about it than then, as back then it was mainly hidden from me by my parents & my Mum's family. I was always around family in some way & at times my parents took me with them to work, especially if some big had happened in our town, just so I was away from whatever devastation was there. I must say, that even though the fighting was bad & you never knew where was going to be the next bombing target etc, the paramilitaries on both sides acted like 'local authorities' & kept all the 'wee hoods' & other criminals/'bad people' off the streets. There wasn't the huge drug issues, robberies, attacks on women etc. They were in control & everyone knew that if you were a 'bad boy/girl', it was them that would dish out the punishments & their punishments were a lot worse than anything the police could do!
I can't imagine what kids now have to deal with though... If they could be attacked with some sort of weapon as they walk down the street or sit in their classrooms at school. We only had 'fire drills' at school. I guess evacuation is evacuation, whether it is for a fire or a bomb... whereas now in the US, kids have to do 'active shooter drills' etc on top of the fire/tornado/hurricane/earthquake drills. Then the peer pressure to take drugs & all that other stuff, the drive-by shootings, night club stabbings etc etc...
But now Ireland is a brilliant place to be, so much natural beauty & history here to see & learn with fantastic people, though it might take a while to understand all the accents here & might take a wee while to get to grips with our dry, sarcastic, sometimes morbid sense of humour. We can (& will) 'take the mick' out of anyone at any time, but it's all 'great craic' (in fun/for a laugh/joking about). It's a great place to visit, even tho it's a 'tad on the wet side' a lot of the time, but that's what keeps us so lush & green! If you're up North, you can stay on Belfast & then travel anywhere in the country in a matter of about 2-3hrs, or you can stay in the numerous B&Bs (bed & breakfasts - small, usually family run 'hotels' of sorts) scattered around. If you're up North or down South, try and get some day trips on your itinerary, to the smaller isle of the coast! So it will feel like you have been transported back in time to a much slower, more relaxed way of life & the folk are awesome!
Enjoy the rest of your stay in Dublin & then to Cork! It may only be a wee bit down the road, but it's a completely different culture & another accent to get used to! LOL!
Thank so much! We'll definitely be back up around Belfast at some point. This trip is all south, but I want to come back during the summer and do some hiking and stuff in the north.
"I actually feel more now about it than then, as back then it was mainly hidden from me by my parents & my Mum's family."
That seems to be a common response from folks in the comments. It seems like a lot of parents were trying to insulate their kids from the violence as much as they could.
I've listened to many reactions to this song on youtube, but you guys are the first to really explain in depth the meaning and background. Well done!
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Thank you for this. the best reaction ever I saw this song........
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Thank the Gods you did your research, I've watched a few of these and no-one took the trouble to understand the background and the music.
Cheers for that. We were really worried about this one. We're all massive fans of The Cranberries and Dolores and this song, so we wanted to make sure we did it justice. Thanks for checking it out.
If you haven't seen it, we also did a matchup of two different covers of the song. You might like that one as well: th-cam.com/video/M8RpdMp1whE/w-d-xo.html
Am from Belfast this is sooo real. Now the Trauma ptsd Addiction. And yes to this day the Violence still causes silence. 😢
The most important influence for Dolores O ryordan (The Cranberries) was the sound that had the first albums of Sinead O ' Connor quite angry, rebellious and with a very similar and particular singing. Listening to Sinead's Jerusalem O connor reminds me quite zombie because of the strength and energy it emits when singing it.
I know this video was shot long ago but I just can’t explain how proud I was of your reaction. I watch every reaction to this song and video that I cam and I have never come across such educated and musically educated people. Thank you for doing this. I can’t believe the comments that your reaction pulled into the public light, with so many sharing their own personal experiences. When you spoke about the kids playing with their sticks hitting each other I really felt that they had grown up only in war time and it was practically all that they knew. And that the cherub boys represented the innocence that the children should have had. And when they open their mouths to scream it is like a silent scream, where they’re not truly being heard, as the real children weren’t turn all this time. Thank you again and I remember like one of you was at school for music during this time I was also in New York City studying at Juilliard and I saw the cranberries in late 1995 at the Beacon theater. Not having seen the video for the song at the time it’s still hit so hard especially live and will live in my memory forever.✌️🫶🏻
Thank you so much, Amy. We prepped quite a bit for this reaction because all of us are huge fans of both the song and Dolores and we wanted to make sure we did it justice. I'm happy this video is still resonating with people, and going though the comments of this one always makes me tear up a little.
3/4 of our group are college professors, and all of us are stage performers (improv, comedy, musicians, etc.), and when COVID hit and we were no longer able to perform, we wanted to do something to keep our chops in front of audiences sharp. I start doing music reactions because I really missed what it was like sitting on the couch with friends watching videos. Sometimes we had beers and laughed. Sometimes we were melancholy. And sometimes we were sad. But it was always a shared experience with friends.
So I'm really happy this reaction has created a shared experience for a lot of folks.
Thank you for checking it out and leaving us a comment. I'm so happy for you that you had a chance to see the Cranberries. I dearly wish I'd been able to.
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I grew up with this song, and I want to thank you guys for giving so much understanding of the piece as a whole. She's an amazing artist! 💜💜💜
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What a great job you guys did. This video has so much to unwrap. The children playing like soldiers is such a real and hard thing to watch. You know how real it is. Especially because they probably didn't exactly have a playground with swing sets and such to play on in the neighborhood.
Thank you! We wanted to make sure we did this song and video justice. It's a legitimate piece of art.
Born in Belfast in 1968 my childhood/teenage years was the troubles, terrible times and countless families suffered on both sides...
The thing about Belfast people is our resilience, our humour (that may sound strange) but it sometimes got us through the worst of times...
I'm so glad you mentioned our friendliness , and am glad you enjoyed it here..
This song and video is an absolute masterpiece , check out the cranberries singing it live in Warsaw, goosebumps !!
Really enjoyed this reaction, subscribed....
Thank you for the kind words, Julie. We wanted to make sure we did this one justice because we're huge fans of both this song and Dolores.
"our humour (that may sound strange) but it sometimes got us through the worst of times"
That doesn't sound strange at all. The amount of trauma from The Troubles is just soul-crushing, but the resilience of folks like you who made it through speaks to the strength of the human spirit.
Yeah I think we've seen most of the TH-cam videos of Dolores performing this song live. The world is a lesser place without her in it.
And yes, my wife and I absolutely loved Belfast. The people there were just lovely. We're actually going to be back in The Republic of Ireland for Christmas and New Year's. We're starting in Dublin then getting a car and driving down south for a bit. I can't wait. I hope you have a great Christmas and holiday season. Thank you for subscribing. We're glad you're here.
Brit here. You guys were sooo close to getting this song. What you missed is that UK was saturated in American music, especially grunge and its derivative sounds, at this time. It must have seemed suffocating to Dolores given the message she wanted to convey. So she broke through all that four-chord noise by doing her own four-chord noise, in her own unique voice. Once you have that final jigsaw piece, this song will finally make full sense to you, and be all the more powerful for it.
Thanks for the react, god bless x
You guys have produced the most insightful appraisal of this song👏👏👏👏
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As others have said, this is the best reaction video on the internet to this incomparable song. Thank you for putting in the work and for sharing all your knowledge and experience. 🏆
That is really, really kind. Thank you so much. We love both the song and Dolores so much that we really wanted to do them justice with the video. It's gratifying to see so many people are enjoying it.
Love the fact that you guy's know about "keening" well done in doing your home work.👊
Thank you so much! We're really glad you liked the video. We were worried about doing this one justice, so we made sure to do plenty of prep.
Ricky is actually a professor of music at Texas State University, so he always helps with the research into the music. And Jim was a history major, so he's a big help with getting time lines correct.
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I interpret her under the cross with the children as representing the motherland, whose children are being lost
That's a great interpretation.
@@LikeMindedLunatics As for the song,, Zombies are creatures without brains who only kill (and without remorse). The answer to her question, "What's in your head, Zombie," is "Nothing."
I think it makes sense that she kept the music fairly simple because it needed to take a back seat to her message.
That's a really good point. Ricky and I have discussed that a lot. Some of the most iconic songs are "simple" by most musical standards, but it just goes to show that amazing art doesn't have to be complicated. Thanks for checking this one out.
R.I.P. Dolores
Excellent song much emotion 😢😢😢
fkn keening always gets the waterworks going
Completely agree. There's something raw and visceral about that sound that is so emotionally affecting.
6:23 From what I read in the past, they were basing the aesthetics on _The Pietà_ from Michelangelo.
Which fits the theme of a mother in mourning, and then they gave it their own touch to allow other messages too.
That makes total sense. That whole scene is gorgeous.
You guys certainly done your homework on the back story to what this song is all about.Powerful stuff and your research is the best i have heard anyone do, so thanks guy, and yes Dolores is so sadly missed. She had an amazing voice.
Thank you so much. I'm glad you liked this video. We all three adore this song and miss Delores so much that we wanted to make sure we did it justice, so I'm glad to resonated with you. I hope you check out more of our content and consider subscribing if you haven't already.
Thank you for your research. I was in Warrington the day before Johnathan and Tim were so cowardly taken. I was with my kids who were the same age. I have grandchildren now, Colin and Johnathan’s parents will never experience that. Dolores wrote this in anger.
Fact.
Their music company offered them a cheque for £1 million not to release it. Dolores, bless her sweet soul, tore it up.
RIP Jonathan, Tim and the wonderful
Dolores.
Thank you for your great research into keening. I’m not Irish, but this song is so important to us.
I'm so sorry for the all the shock and hurt being that close to the event must have caused you and all the other folks affected by it. The loss of life due to the events surrounding the Warrington bombings, especially the loss of life of children, is really hard to comprehend.
I'm glad you thought we did the song justice. Of all the reactions we've done, I was most worried about this one. I wanted to make sure we did it justice.
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The line about bombs was repeated twice, because it represented the two children who died in the bombings.
Wow. I hadn't read that fact. That makes the chorus even more unsettling.
@@LikeMindedLunatics Yeah the repitition of bombs is deliberate but it was because there were two bombs that happened less than a minute apart and less than 100m apart.
The best read on this song by an absaloute country mile. Well done lads. Interesting piece of info for you; the same guy who directed Smells Like Teen Spirit by Nirvanah directed this video also. His second name was Bayer.
Very well researched guys, congratulations from this Irish Bùchal on great work. Other reactions frustrate the feck out of me 🇮🇪 🙌☘️
Aww man, what a kind comment. Thank you so much. This video doesn't have as many views as we'd like, but I'm so happy that all the Irish folks who've watched it have said kind things about our reaction. We love this song and video so much, and wanted to make sure we did it justice. So I'm glad you think we did. Cheers, my friend.
We didn't realize the director had also done "Smells Like Teen Spirit." That's so amazing. Thank you for letting us know.
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This review made me a new subscriber. Thanks for a thoughtful, intelligent review of a powerful song.
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Weirdly enough, as a guy from Czech Republic who didn't know much about the Ireland or The Cranberries back then, I grew up hearing the song in radios or in a pub and I didn't pay much attention to the lyrics back then, only the "in your head" part was iconic for this song so I remembered it. But now, I know almost all about it, having watched many reactions, comments, explanations and interpretations, this song is one of my most favorite ones.
I think that's one of the signs of high art. When the piece of art still resonates with someone even if they don't know the history/intentions of the artist, that, to me, is the sign of a true piece of art.
Thank you for a very respectful review, it's just a shame that we never learn.
Thank you for watching. And you're absolutely right. It's the shame of our species. It seems like we're hard-wired for violence.
My top 3 all time reactions to this song bravo guys really well done i really appreciate you getting the meaning behind it
Another Irish person chipping in to salute a superb job. Great research, delivery of information and playing at the end. Being from Limerick, my first ever gig was going as a 16yr old with my schoolmates to see them in 93. It was their triumphant homecoming from the United States, to a 1000 standing only theatre, after selling over a million copies of their debut and doing well if not cracking the States. Tickets were surprisingly easy to get. Great first gig as gigs go. Edited to say 'Liked and Subscribed'
Thank you so much. I'm really glad this reaction has resonated so well with Irish folks. We really wanted to do it justice.
I'm so jealous you had the opportunity to see them live. What a memory that must be.
It's funny you mention Limerick. My wife and I are in Cork right now and passed through there yesterday. We were in Dublin for the new year, and we saw Kingfishr, a Limerick band, play at the celebration. They were outstanding. I hope to cover some of their music in the future.
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Absolutely incredible background study for a reaction video. Thank you for this.
Thank you for watching. We wanted to make sure we did justice to the song, video, and Delores. We're glad you liked it. I hope you check out some of our other content, and if you haven't already, subscribe and stick around the channel.
Master video guys, respect to your emotions to a very emotional song/truth. Dolores RIP was unique, if she was (which she was) a piece of art, she would be the Mona Lisa, love from Ireland
Thanks very much. It was really important to us that we did a good job on this one, and I'm glad you think we did.
And I love Ireland a lot. My wife and I have spent a lot of time there. We were actually in Ireland for the New Year this year. Much love at you from Austin.
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Best reaction video yet
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What a great and thoughtful reaction!
A song and video of this artistic quality completely deserves a thoughtful and serious reaction. This, in our mind, is high art.
Yes lads great reaction, much love from ireland❤ my man necked that whiskey like mey da 😂.
Cheers, my friend!
I learned to drink whiskey in Ireland! We were there in Jan., and I drank as much as I could!
Stunning work gentlemen, thanks so much for the time and effort by all.
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Great reaction. I thought I knew everything about this song but you added a couple of things to my knowledge. Well researched.
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For me this hits different... I lost my little and my big sister 2 years ago... Both loved this Song... I listening to this many many times and will never stop it...
We're so sorry for your loss. That's horrible. I'm glad this song brings you a little comfort. Thank you for checking out our reaction.
Thanks, guys :)
Cheers man. Thanks for watching.
What a great analysis and very good information about this song, I discovered it for the first time at the end of the 90s and I had goosebumps, from that moment I became interested in knowing all of her music and today I am a fan of everything Dolores has done O'Riordan for music. RIP 🔥♥️🔥
Very informative reaction, fellas!!! Great song and the input of the historical perspective was excellent. While we are on the throes of the madness of WW IV, this is very timely. American retired Veteran of Irish descent here. Kudos to this outstanding reaction!!
Thank you so much. Thank you for watching this one and commemorating the horrific events of 1993 with us.
And we actually recorded this several weeks ago knowing we'd publish it today to honor those lives lost in the Warrington bombings.
None of us could have guessed we'd be publishing it the day after Russia attacked a sovereign nation and innocent lives are once again being lost. Our hearts go out to our brothers and sisters losing their lives over this.
And thanks again. We hope you check out some of our other stuff.
I always hear the drums in the opening of this song and throughout as the rat-a-tat of gunfire. A background sound the people would be all too familiar with.
Exactly what I’ve always associated the sound with. The whole way through the song they keep the drum making that short, sharp burst, especially with the fast repeated beats, as you say, rat-a-tat of gunfire.
Beautiful reaction men 💪💪💪
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Awesome video, thank you for leading me to this wonderful information. When this song first came out, my family wouldn't listen to it, they said it caused too much 'proxy guilt', we are Irish (my grand parents are the McQueens and the McDaniels) and we didn't take part in the violence, but that doesn't stop the feelings.
Thank you so much. I'm glad you thought this one turned out okay. We wanted to make sure we didn't screw this one up.
"they said it caused too much 'proxy guilt'"
That's really tough. We read and watched a lot of interviews with Delores, and those two lines "But you see, it's not me / It's not my family" were essentially touching on that same feeling.
Really enjoyed your interpretation of this song, you clearly looked into the story behind the song, the lyrics and style of Delores's singing. 10/10. Well done to u all, brilliant.
Thank you so much! We're all huge fans of the song and we wanted to make sure we did it justice. I'm glad you enjoyed it. I hope you check out some of our other content, too.
I've never commented on any forum before but you treated this song, which I would consider to be a work of art and a very accurate narrative of it's time, the absolute respect it deserves....so thank you.
There's a vid of The Cranberries performing this live in '99. Dolores and the audience seemed happy and to enjoy singing this song. She mentioned how things in Ireland were looking more peaceful than they had for a very long time which I think allowed her to be more lighthearted.
But now, between war in Ukraine and school shootings in the US this song takes on every bit of its original weight, plus some.
Bad Wolves released a cover in '18 but a fresh cover would be great. I'd love it if Disturbed took a crack at it.
We recorded this episode roughly 2-3 weeks before Russia's invasion of Ukraine. We had no clue this episode would become so timely.
And now after the shooting in Uvalde, it seems timely and close to home. Jim leaves in San Antonio, Ricky and I are near Austin, and we're all teachers. It's been awful here.
I remember James Hetfield talking about music, and one of the things he said was that, for him, music was a way for him to understand and process the things he was feeling in a healthy way. It allowed him to deal with feelings he didn't understand. This is one of those songs.
It's a gorgeous and heart-breaking song, and the world is a lesser place without Dolores in it.
Thanks for checking this one out.
And I already took a look at the Bad Wolves version, but I compared it to a cover by Miley Cyrus, which, if you haven't heard it, is stunning. Here's the link: th-cam.com/video/M8RpdMp1whE/w-d-xo.html
So good to hear people from the US who really understand what the song is about and also about Irish music - I learnt quite a few things myself! Sometimes Americans only know bits and pieces or have a one sided view or are afraid to say to much and say the wrong thing, but it's something that deserves to be fully understood. I mean the Good Friday agreement wasn't that long after this song it probably was one of the things that contributed to a change in people's thinking and ended a conflict that had been going on for decades. Imagine if peaceful resolutions to other conflicts could brought about by music!
this is educational video for me concerning the voice lament. I'm from Liverpool from Irish descent (many Liverpudlians are). Thanks for the information about the vocal! (keening)
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I think "zombie" refers to the ideas that just don't die and keep on popping up no matter who'd wish otherwise
I take my hat off very high for your research work prior to this reaction.
A professor once told me: “A text out of context is just a pretext.”
For years, I listened to this song without knowing the context (the tragic events) that inspired it.
The context explains the way of playing of drummer Fergal "Patrick" Lawler, who seems to rage against this murderous madness.
That's a very kind comment. Thank you. We wanted to make sure we did this song justice, so it makes us very happy to see so many people liked this video.
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Just stumbled on this channel.Great discussions, great insights...and for the first time, I'd actually like to sit down with you drink and talk.
"I'd actually like to sit down with you drink and talk"
You couldn't have paid us a higher compliment. Thank you. We started this channel because everyone here at LML are live performers in some capacity (music, improv, storytelling, etc) and when COVID hit, we obviously couldn't perform anymore. So we wanted a way to keep our performance chops sharp while also still hanging out with people. And I intentionally wanted to do something different from other reactors who just go "That was AWESOME! Like and subscribe and tell me what to watch next!
I intentionally wanted to capture what it was like hanging out with friends and watching MTV. We'd drink, snack, and hang out. Sometimes the videos would be heavy like this and we'd have deep serious conversations, and other times it would be Winger doing "Eighteen" and we'd laugh and make fun of it and slam beers. But the important thing was hanging out with friends and sharing videos.
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@@LikeMindedLunatics I have subscribed and love the content! Thank you!
Awesome thank you so much! We're really glad you're here.
When Cain murdered Abel, the first murder, God said to Cain, "Abel's innocent blood is crying out to me". That's what I think of when they show the kid falling and the dead version of him screaming out.
Congrats ! Your the first person to GET IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Timely and insightful analysis. It gives me a new appreciation for the song.
Thank you, Flo. We had no idea when we filmed this reaction that the world would be where it's at the moment. I'm glad you think this one turned out okay.
Great reaction and great information. Thank you.
RIP Dolores.
Lived across the water in south west Scotland from Belfast for most of my life. Can't begin to describe how horrifically violent it was there. Every news programme. someone killed, kneecapped, assassinated. Fucking nightmare.
And you only seen the parts the media (government) wanted you to see. So you can imagine the full picture
I grew up in Belfast and living in Scotland for many years now. I’ve learned over the years that only a few carefully chosen stories ever made it to the news on STV and certainly not to the BBC. That would NOT have kept with the narrative of the time. It’s all coming out these days though.
Great research, keening comes from the old Irish custom of wailing a lament when words cannot express the grief.
You talked about the imagery of the kids and the weapons in gold. I have pondered that meaning for a long time with no firm conclusions. I will tell you that I remember interviews of the Irish peace negotiators talking about not wanting another generation of children growing up in the state of war.
Well researched guys and love the choice of Red Breast whiskey!
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You all got it in a Nutshell!
I remember my entire school praying everyday for those poor children. And a member of our parish was captured by the Brits. Crazy times. Still are.
I'm so sorry. That's terrible. And in the States, we obviously heard about the bombings, but I can't imagine having to try and go about your during The Troubles.
@@LikeMindedLunatics Thx, He is very well. . He was imprisoned a good while, released and came to the U.S. to be with his family in Philadelphia. The Mayor had a parade for him because every church in the city was praying for his release. The children will never be forgotten 🇮🇪♡.🇮🇪 1-30-1972
When I was 18,I was working in a holiday camp for the Summer before going to Uni and I had a summer fling with a beautiful Irish boy who went back to Ireland when’the Troubles’ started,I often think of him.
@15:02 is what got this video banned by the BBC and it’s Irish counterpart, the RTE. They did not like that the video implied that the British Army shot children.
And of course, I don’t know if that ever actually happened. One hopes it did not.
Unfortunately It did happen 😢 One occasion that involved children was The Ballymurphy Massacre in July 1972. The army set up in a timber yard just a few yards down the road from where the kids are playing in the video, they fired down the streets that ran perpendicular or close enough so they could fire all the way to the chapel at the other end. The streets were rebuilt in a different direction in late 80s early 90s if I remember rightly.
The soldiers in the video are patrolling Springfield Road. (Falls Road side of the wall for those unfamiliar with the other roads😅)
Why do I only found this channel now??? The most amazing and informative reaction 💜 you guys are amazing.
And I found you because I love this band, I only started learning guitar because I listened to The Cranberries as a kid and I wanted to kinda be like Dolores haha she was an amazing human being and artist
Thank you so much! I'm glad you found us. I (this is Mark) recently started trying to learn guitar, too! Ricky helps me out. I hope you check out some of our other content as well, and if you haven't already, hit the subscribe button.
UNA GRAN CANTANTE CON UNA VOZ IRISH ÚNICA . UNA LETRA CRUDA PERO VERDADERA. HERMOSA DOLORES O'ROINDAN EN TODO LO QUÉ HACÍA. FANTÁSTICA CANCIÓN 🇦🇷👏 I ❤️ THE CRAMBERRIES ALWAYS 👌 BUENA REACCIÓN.GRACIAS POR RECORDARLA. I ❤️ THEM 🌠
I'm Irish, I lived in Ireland all my life, and I'll give you a song to look up (Finbar Fury ft Christy Dignam = Green fields of France) Live on the late late show... its a powerfull Irish song.. please enjoy❤️❤️🇮🇪🇮🇪
Great breakdown.
In terms of the cross, it can be seen as the Celtic cross, which dates pre Catholic reformation, so in essence stating “We are the same.”
I really appreciate your exploring keening; I studied it in depth for a role I performed in an Irish play.
Also might mention the 1916 Easter uprising, and the potato famine, during which all Irish agricultural products - plant, dairy and meat - were appropriated at gun point by the British monarchy, and distributed in England, leaving the Irish only potatoes to eat.
So, a group of lads in Limerick
were looking for a lead singer. They were told that a girl who sings in the local church choir might be good. They were skeptical, but agreed to give her a listen. And this shy, young woman turned up. She was so, so shy. And she was magnificent. And she was Dolores. That is one hell of a reaction, guys. Bravo.
"And this shy, young woman turned up. She was so, so shy. And she was magnificent. And she was Dolores."
I don't know why, but the way you wrote that was so beautiful and it kind of made me tear up.
I think I said this in the video, but it hurts my heart knowing that Delores is no longer with us. The world is a lesser place without her in it.
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Best reaction of this song I’ve seen. Well researched and a decent try at understanding what’s being said and shown! That’s my wee hometown and that was my childhood and those soldiers and their guns were a very normal sight. Intimidating but very normal.
One other commenter mentioned Dolores at the cross being the motherland losing her children. Good interpretation of that, there’s a song written by Tommy Makem (and covered by everyone and their granny 😂) Four Green Fields, from the POV of Ireland as an old woman who lost her children and it honestly is one of the most beautiful, powerful songs I’ve heard. The version I grew up with was by The Dubliners and it’ll always be my favourite. but there are so many great versions. Not sure there’s a video other than folk singing it but worth a listen anyway even if not a reaction 😊
Irish American, and I've subscribed because you didnt just say yodeling, you know its keening and you explained it. And back in the day, if you could afford it, you could hire professional keeners if someone in the family died.
"Irish American, and I've subscribed because you didnt just say yodeling, you know its keening and you explained it"
Thank you. I'm glad we did an okay job. We all three love this song, and Ricky is actually a prof of music at Texas State, so we wanted to make sure we did it justice. I hope you enjoy our other videos as well.
@@LikeMindedLunatics ooooh educated and informed reactions: hard to turn down. I'll have to go digging through your page and see if you've done anything on The Offspring (that's not just Pretty Fly for a White Guy). I believe 3 of the 4 of them have doctorates in music/music theory, and the 4th guy has a master's maybe. I just know I've never stopped being a fan, and when you listen to them in the car or with headphones and can really get the depth of the music, it sounds composed.
We've actually only done one video on The Offspring, and it was a special video to help benefit a local charity. I keep meaning to do a Ladi's Rockucation series on them (one of our group members knows NOTHING about rock, so I'm doing a series where I "rockucate" him), but I just haven't got around to it.
Here's the video we covered. It's a fun one, but we don't really dive deep: th-cam.com/video/WbG5fACW-Og/w-d-xo.html
When I 1st heard this song I immediately loved it and was sad as well, Dolores O'Riordan has an absolutely amazing voice and her keening is beautiful, I've always loved Ireland and Scotland cause both countries r so beautiful in culture and music as well as their language, and when I learned that this song was about what happened with the IRA and in England I felt bad for all those ppl and children that were victims & this song being played is fitting for what is currently happening over in Ukraine which is sad cause of Russia and im an American whose part Russian and I fell bad for everyone in Ukraine for whats happening, I will always love this song this band and this amazing lead singer, love this reaction its amazing
We're so glad you liked this reaction. We all really love this song, and we wanted to make sure our reaction demonstrated our love for it and Delores O'Riordan.
And we had no idea when we were filming this that we'd release it into a world where another humanitarian tragedy is taking place.
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See now that's how you do commentary.
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed this one. I hope you check out some of our other content as well. We don't do deep dives into everything, but we always try to have fun.
In an interview it was said that the IRA always said we. Delores was clarifying that she and her family didn't agree with the violence.. it's not me...
I knew about Delores wanting to distance herself from the actions of the IRA, but I didn't know that the IRA tended to use first person plural like that. Makes sense why Delores would write the song from that perspective. Thanks for commenting.
I hope that Glencairn was empty when it fell to the floor! Approve of your choice of Redbreast. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is the first Irish music video. I'm 72 and remember the emotions it evoked, I rarely get through the video without tearing up. It is believed to be the catalyst that brought the IRA to negotiations and a peace of sorts to Belfast. You guys did a great job covering it. Cheers, "One for the Living, One for the Dead. Rightly said". Sla'inte
What a kind comment. Sla'inte my friend. Yeah, the glencairn was empty! Thank goodness. Redbreast is probably our favorite Irish whiskey, but we were in Dublin and Cork for the new year, and we had a fair amount of Red Spot and boy it was tasty too.
I'm glad you thought we did an okay job with this one. We all three love this song and hold such a high regard for it that we were really worried about putting this one together.
And if the song/video helped move towards peace in any why whatsoever what an amazing legacy.
Big Cran Fan here, BEST ANALYSIS EVER! 👏
I'm so glad you enjoyed our reaction. This is such an important song that we wanted to make sure we did it justice. I hope you take a look at some of our other videos, too.
@@LikeMindedLunatics yes, I will. This is more than a simple reaction. Congrats!
Check more Cranberries, this is the big hit but there’s a lot of great songs
Thank you so much! We all love The Cranberries and are familiar with their music. In fact, Ricky used to cover them when he was a gigging musician. It's his guitar you hear at the end of the video with pics from Belfast.
@@LikeMindedLunatics sounds really good!
Delores wrote this song after the IRA bombing of Warrington in March 1993, this bombing killed 2 young children age 3 and 12 (I think). As a woman of Irish decent I can understand her sentiment in this song. The same old thing thing since 1916 I reference to the Easter rising in Dublin which was a blood bath.
Ireland has been a hot bed of religious sectarianism for decades. Protestants and Catholics living in separate areas, god help anyone that fell in love with the opposite side of the street! It's not quite as bad a it was in the 60's -90's. Prejudice still exists everywhere sadly.
I'm with Ea, aka Enki, but I'm U.S. Soldier.
Fin reacting. The song was written in response to the death of Johnathan Ball, 3, and Tim Parry, 12, who had been killed in the IRA bombing in Warrington, northwest England, when two devices hidden in litter bins were detonated.
Thank you so much. I'm glad this reaction resonated. We wanted to make sure we did it justice. And yes. Such an absolute tragedy. Thanks for commenting.
The best reaction video I have seen on this subject. Knowledgeable and insightful as to the situation then....and now with what is happening in my adopted home of Ukraine
Great analysis.
The imagery of the children fighting and the 'cherubs' crying out is to do with the circle of violence that was going on for decades. Children being brought up in a climate of hate and fear and that violence and fighting is the only answer, and causing the loss of innocent lives. I think that's when people thought enough is enough we can't go on doing this to our children and poisoning society we have to find a way to forgive and find a way for all sides to live together.
Wow I loved all the info. You guys provided during this video. And knowing the facts. Next you should check out Bad Wolves cover of this song. Delores was supposed to be on it. And died right before sadly. They did a beautiful tribute to her in the video.
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Mark featured the Bad Wolves version on a matchup that we posted the week after this video. You can check that video out here: th-cam.com/video/M8RpdMp1whE/w-d-xo.html
Yes bringing in Lomax and that sample of Keening was very unique I appreciate that
Thank you. We tried to make sure we did a little bit of research for this one. I'm glad you liked it. I hope you check out some of our other content too.
I think the imagery of the innocent kids starting off quite angelic in chrub-like poses gradually changes to match the postures of the soldiers. The Cupid's arrow type of imagery at the beginning definitely changes to match the way the soldiers typically hold their guns when walking through trouble areas in the North back then. Where the video is paused at 12:00, the frame is an almost exact match of the soldier pointing his gun at the camera moments before. And then to despair...it's a cycle of indoctrination.
Delores had a falling out w/family. A Children's Services took her 3 kids in real life, true, read about. Delores took her life, Substance abuse, Suicide /Combo. R.I.P, I been in the position and am lucky to still be here to even type this, peace,
I'm so sorry you had to go through all that stuff. I'm glad you're still with us.
The boy in the video was shot by the British soldier, that’s why the BBC banned the video.
Love the research and reaction
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In the realm of high art and interpretation...She might be representing Eriu or Danu, each one a mother goddess in Irish and Celtic folklore. The children are being sacrificed/crucified on the cross of violent disagreement of Catholic and Protestant religious differences and the Irish rebellion (Easter Uprising in 1916). The "adults" who having been unable to settle the differences caused by the religious separation and English occupation of Ireland had perpetrated a cycle of unending violence that would suck in the children of each generation (another child slowly taken) until they became Zombie soldiers in the cycle, perpetrating the next round of violence and terrorism and creating a self-perpetuating, self-fulfilling prophecy of violence. With each generation's children lost to the inferno, they are screaming in the loss of their lives and innocence. So Ireland being crucified in the cycle of violence, brought on by religious war and British occupation.
"She might be representing Eriu or Danu, each one a mother goddess in Irish and Celtic folklore"
That's a fantastic interpretation. The song is so rooted in real-life events I didn't even try to any other interpretation, but linking this to Celtic folklore makes a lot of sense to.
9:42 The Scottish flag is on this wall because the mural is of a loyalist paramilitary unit.
Gotcha. That mural was a bit confusing to us, so thanks for the clarification.
@@LikeMindedLunatics In the previous shot you can see its the UVF (Ulster Volunteer Force) formed in 1965
Keening , my granny would say " stop your keening ' if i was moaning 😂