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- Bengals, Savannahs, and Toygers, explained.
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By breeding house cats with wild animals, humans developed hybrid cats that look like little leopards. Bengal cats are a breed that was developed by breeding domestic cats with asian leopard cats. The first American bengal breeder is a woman named Jean Mill, but her work has continued through other breeders. We met one of those breeders, Anthony Hutcherson, when we went to film the cats at the Westminster Dog Show. Besides bengals, we also saw another hybrid breed: savannahs. Instead of asian leopard cats, savannahs were developed by breeding house cats with servals. Unlike the other two breeds, the last breed we met, toygers, are not hybrid cats. Breeder Judy Sugden created the breed by carefully breeding domestic cats with qualities that resemble wild tigers. To learn more about the cats and the breeders that made possible, watch the video above.
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From where I'm from, you don't choose a cat. The cat chooses you.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING
👏👏👏👏
*Russia*
Russia?
Where are u from?
guys, dont spend 20k on a cat, adopt a black one and tell people is a mini panther :)
Venemous Syrin ^^^^!!!!!
200iq
Panthers have Rosettes
Panthers don't exist
You mean jaguar. The black panther was started as a all African American group to fight racism but ended up racist.
From a genealogy or biological hereditary standpoint, this is so fascinating. But as a cat owner, this is ethically upsetting.
"Ethically upsetting." Memes for the deluded.
Yes
You summed up my outlook on this
Wait is it really unethical? To me it seems like the same as breeding two normal cats. Maybe the unethical part is that the males are infertile
@@Sub4CarClips the crossbreeding with wild leopard cat is very morally questionable
Also the breeding of so many cats when there are so many in our shelters already
Never judge a cat by its breed, it's just a marketing agenda created by humans, Each and every cat is unique and can love you infinite
Of course they are all unique but breeds do have certain temperaments and other differences etc on average compared to others.
Cats dont have the ability to love. If you want that get a dog!
@@codyleslie478 dumbest comment
@@codyleslie478 I feel like you're mixing up snakes and cats.
@@codyleslie478 why do you hate cats so much?
Imagine doing all this for your cat to run away
That's why u put the tracker on yo cat
Chip your cats
Or for me to flatten it with my car
@@gigapak28 and me to flatten your face with my fist. 😜
@@gigapak28 I love cats so that's why I replied to your comment. Hope you're joking.
I already got a ocelot in minecraft
you already know
Creeper
Aww man
@@haarisblue06 so we back in the mine
Got our pickaxe swinging from side to side. side, side to side.
i feel like these cat and dog shows are so loud and must be really overwhelming for the animals
These cats are very well trained and adjusted to this.
The dogs and cats in these shows compete from young ages and are very well trained and socialised. If a dog is sensitive to noise or movement, that’s a sign for an anxiety problem and of course owners at these shows wouldn’t keep them in that environment
These professional animal trainers will say anything to defend their abusive practices, these animals are their slaves, they make an easy living from them. Circus animal trainers say the same things and they’re mostly out of business now.
I would imagine they would get used to it pretty quickly
Yea it could be overwhelming for the cats and dogs at the shows at times but I think some cats and dogs love the extra attention haha
By the way, the videos on the playlist on my channel just might change someone’s life!
this just makes me want to adopt a ton of shelter cats
And have you?
@@TheB0aah you see i am a mere child living under the roof of my parents, incapable of adopting any cats on my own, but, someday, i will
@@art3mis432 yep yep adopting is better, they need loving homes💗.
@Oritra Kar in my opinion, adopting can help cats without homes. Your opinion is still valid because breeding is good(if you want specific cat breed). And every cat is better not just bred cats.
@Oritra Kar all cats are bred, that’s how you make most animals, we’re talking about if they’re _selectively_ bred or not
can science hurry up and make a minature bear species
YES PLEAS
Pablo From Guatemala not possible as there is no species of bear that small, the closest thing I think is red pandas which is basically a raccoon.
ninja of fire Well, in theory, you could breed a bear with stunted growth hormones or something similar.
Raccoons! apparently they actually do make great pets as well.
ninja of fire well they made it possible to turn wolves into chihuahuas so...it probably is possible
i want a cat. any cat. doesn't have to be a tiny lion or anything. i just want a cat
Get a cat. Million of cats would love to meet you and be your forever kitty - just choose one (or two). Cats are sooo much better than kittens; all kittens are cute but cats have 'personality' and you can pick the one (or two) that suit your lifestyle; a cuddle-puss, an independent character; one who loves to play or one who only sleeps on your lap ... I adopted an adult cat and that was one of the best things I ever did in my entire life. Go get a kitty!
Drunk Vegan Gal They more than likely can't...
Zeeahko my uncle has some strays there
Drunk Vegan Gal Not everyone can get a cat. They might not have enough money or not have the right home for it. My brother and I want to get a cat, but we can't change the fact that the last person who owned our mom's house let their cat "mark it's terrritory" everywhere.
If51aj - there are cat fostering programs at most no-kill rescue shelters. Fostering is a great option for you and kitty. You get the company of a cat till it can find a forever home and cat gets to relax in your place instead of a cage or crate in a shelter. They pay for vet bills and usually food and litter too. Although cats marking is a problem for some kitties - others wouldn't ever pee outside their box ^..^< I don't know about Zeeahko's situation; landlords can be anti-cat as well :(
“F1 Savanna” sounds like a cool car
Oh yeah it does
Maybe that's because they don't treat cats as living creatures, but as objects.
@@narcisosanz8137 maybe it’s because they need a way to keep track of how many generations down a cat is.
I like how many times they say the word "but". That shows you they are aware that it can be arguably consider wrong to do this *but* they don't want to stop.
It must be a power trip for them to be able to 'create' their dream cat. I just wish they wouldn't mess with these beautiful animals.
@@oliviac295 or it is not a power trip and they just worry much less about the negatives that you worry about
makes no sense
6:02 "Buf if you look at these cats, they justify the breeding"
Basically saying she doesn't want to rescue a shelter cat, she just wants a cat that looks like a leopard.
@@Glitchibo it's the same with Persian cats and Exotic shorthair cats, which are basically Persians with short fur. Back in the Victorian times and a little after that, they looked a lot more like other cats and didn't have the pug-like face. I can't remember how it happened, but people started breeding them to have the noses that they do, which is a shame, I think. Sure, they have adorable faces, I think, but they have problems due to the noses they now have. They were perfectly beautiful before. Why did they have to be bred to look as they do now just to look a certain way?
The question is are we getting a lion version
my question exactly, the world needs to know
Alan Servin just get a tan cat lol
just get a long hair cat and take it to get groomed and get the lion haircut 😂
Oh I wishhhhh! Unfortunately, like tigers, lions are great cats, which sadly means they'd be really difficult to crossbreed with domestic cats.
that would be awesome
I'm uncomfortable with this much human interference, they always find a way to mess it up, look at what they did to dogs.
Ok?
So yeah TH-cam’s recommended is a little late
@@moc277 they never learned their lesson
@@moc277 no one can rly say for sure...
@@socialreject2156
hh do you know that
My parents had an elderly Ragdoll cat with no hunting skills or killer instinct. The local birds loved to flutter around and make fun of.her. When she died, my dad got two young Bengals, and sadly a feathery bloodbath ensued.
Ragdolls are sweet and gentle-natured.
Can't imagine in how much stress those cats might be😓😓 look at the number of people crowding around even an extrovert would feel stressed
Bengals like all the attention they can get . They are not your regular cats
@@Legion849 exactly
Well socialization is sign of a healthy pet. Important to know!!
@@michellemooresings let's not confuse socialization with putting a cat outside their environment with hundreds of people. They're territorial animals and very cautious, even the most social cat will feel overwhelmed and stressed on this situation.
@@LetiMS yes, those kind of crowds are definitely overwhelming. Thx
That Woman that was breeding them basically said, "I know there's an overpopulation of cats right now but I don't care, I want this cat." Honestly as cool as these cats are they'll probably end up being more prone to problems. It's not worth the damage just to have a cat that looks like like a tiger.😔
Liam Lab lets be honest. When ppl get tired of these cats (which I’m sure will happen since they get treated like a show piece) they’re gonna be abandoned. Like huskies and wolf dogs.
True😔
@@Denturess who abandons a husky? They are great dogs
@@juanvaldez5422 neglect is fairly often even with huskies.
@@mhm77887 SAY SIKE RIGHT NOW
Why are these cats being talked about as if they are objects being traded🤦🏾♀️
Ashliyahnah Taylor that’s my biggest issue with pet breeders. I’ve met some who care about their animals, but many treat them like furniture.
Maybe they're trying to breed competitive shinies.
I don't think they are doing this just for money or because they think cats are objects, clearly they love cats as much as anyone else and their goal is to create new breeds of cats so they can add to the already many beautiful breeds of cats in existence. How do you think the breeds of cats have been created and evolved over the centuries?
Oh you are the glass is half empty kinda gal.
Because they are..
Adopt don't shop. My cats may not have a fancy genealogy map or leopard fur patterns but I wouldn't trade them for the world.
Those two things aren't mutually exclusive, though. Adopting is the way to go but what these breeders are doing is cool and not at all inhumane.
I personally shop but that's because I have cat and dog allergies so I want to make sure that I get a purebred cat or dog that's hypoallergenic because I get sinus infections around non-hypoallergenic pets. However, I do agree that people should adopt and not shop because there are lots of animals in shelters that need homes.
Same! I love my adopted cats and their unique personalities. I can't imagine saying that my cats are perfect lol
How about you mind your own business and don't tell others what to do
I'm glad they mentioned the fact that there are so many shelter cats. I love these wild patterns too but can't justify it to myself until cats are no longer being euthanized for no good reason is shelters and living on the streets.
None of these cats are as cool as any of my 5 cats I found living under my house...
How many of them are fixed? How many of them had kids?
How do you feel knowing that YOU’RE a bigger part of the cat problem than these breeders? 😂
snowisp “These cats aren’t even as good as cats you can find living under your house”
Do you get what they’re saying now?? They meant it like... they’re saying the breeders are wasting their effort because you can just find cats wherever you want that are better
@@cheapskategabe3148 that’s actually a good argument
@@cheapskategabe3148 you are making up context that wasn't there, which is a reach. They simply said that they think there cats are better. Any cat owner thinks there cats are better, they didn't bring up the breeders.
@@cheapskategabe3148 If you think of things as wasted efforts because of outside people opinion, that's a you thing dude. Literally no one said that.
coming to netflix: the toyger king
Coming next summer: Crouching Toyger and Hidden Dragon.
That sounds a lot sweeter than the sleaziness in the tiger king because reputable cat breeders tend to be very good to their cats.
not bad though :D
i know it, she feed her husband to the toygers!!!
Toyger Queen** !
The exact same thing was done to dog breeds. They picked what they wanted out of the dog and the health of canines dropped. The medical defects.
Dog breeding has tons of inbreeding which caused genetic issues but It seems it isn’t as common here, at least with hybrid cats
As a foster mom of many many litters of cats, I still can't deny that these cats are awesome. This was a fascinating post.
Imagine if humans were treated like these designer cats
maybe we have... 😉
Plastic surgery exists
@@evalonsqzz1127 he means breeding just for looks, and then discarding the rejects.
wellll kim and kanye have a designer baby
They are treated bro
as long as the cats are being bred responsibly and given good love and treatment i don't see any problem with this. humans have been selectively breeding since the first days of agriculture
caramel coffee all dogs 2day have physical problems. u dont care? look at pics of dogs from 100 years ago and see.
yonatan All? No, I don't think so, some races may have problems, but not all dogs.
El canal de Tomy: Videojuegos que compartir u mean some r ok and the most have problems. ofcurse the ones humans played with .
El canal de Tomy: Videojuegos que compartir Actually they do, even if you aren't able to see them. For example, 60% of golden retrievers die of cancer - it's just part of the faulty DNA we bred them to have
Dogs that are being selective breeding like this, often suffer from horrible sides effects; so this could also happen to cats as well. There's also, an awful lot of over population of cats (mostly feral and stray cats). Which can be VERY bad, for numerous of reasons. These are things to just keep in mind.
www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/dogs-that-changed-the-world-selective-breeding-problems/1281/
m.humanesociety.org/issues/pet_overpopulation/
www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-21236690
Rather rescue a cat who needs me than spend money to breed more cats
@Oritra Kar not for the cat
@Oritra Kar then in that case, is it also your job to reproduce as much as humanly possible?
Don't bother with this fool down here he's just a troll
What an interesting guy Anthony is lol. Imagine having that much drive and following your childhood dreams to the lengths that he did.
Very self absorbed he is indeed you’d think in adulthood he’d grow up n see all cats as equal n pick one that is homeless
@@healingandgrowth-infp4677 you make a good point
@@healingandgrowth-infp4677 I've never had a breed of cat, and cats are my favourite animals. My cats were always adopted, but you can't force your thinking on others, just learn to respect.
@@CalaTecThat’s not forcing thinking onto anyone, it’s simply pointing out something which is morally wrong.
@@jakubgolecki9031 this is not his/her only comment. That's why I said that, was not specifically only for this comment. And still, his/her point is subjective and lacks base other than, because I think so.
Old widowed grandma while knitting on a rocking chair: I'm obsessed with cats
These cat breeders: hold my bengal
Bianca Himawan cat owners: take my wallet
(I have 2 bengals and i get it lol)
Both like cats just as much, one just prefers big cats and to breed them.
It's wrong to breed big cats so much...
They want the cat with perfect IVs :o
David Espinoza Agüero lol
David Espinoza Agüero lol ikr?! and the purrrrfect ability
David Espinoza Agüero
Perfect IVs, Nature and Masuda method haha....I admire them for their dedication to do what they like
They breeding for shiny growlithe
David Espinoza Agüero 😂
I wonder how morally acceptable is to breed cats for entirely whimsical goals.
The goal is to shower a beautiful cat with love and affection. Is that entirety whimsical? If so then ask God about us, first.
@@sapienx99 you don't need to breed them for that. Go adopt
@@sapienx99 no
@@sapienx99 no
It's not. Period.
the ease with which they speak about a "dream cat" as if it were a car... it's terrifying
I found my silver marbled bengal kitten at an L.A. county shelter. Look in shelters before buying! The mother was also in the shelter with 5 other kittens.
Bengals are a handful! So there really are quite a few put up for adoption, glad you gave one of these sweet, but hyper friends a forever home!
My mom and I also found one in a shelter, and then a year later a stray started showing up on our doorstep. They both had extreme behavioral problems and would destroy a lot of stuff in the house, so yes people often buy them and put them up for adoption later when they realize it's too much
@@jennifermcnamara8333 I got very lucky with mine but I also adopted him when he was only eight weeks old but he is a ball of energy, he loves to play and he’s very sweet. I also have him trained to be on a harness and leash.
@@jennifermcnamara8333 oh gosh, i really hate the idea of someone giving pets as a gift.... sure maybe the receiver will end up as a good petowner, but the idea of that is messed up to begin with
@@seanoleary4374 bengals are not hard to keep unless you have one that is under an F3. Mine is an F3 and is as easy to take care of as any other cat...and she’s much smarter than any other regular cat I have owned.
They are lives, not products. This was disturbing
True, they went too far, wanting the specific thing with 100% detaild of what he wanted
Sooo much. This is disgusting, they're not our toy that we can make changes on them or play with their genetics
Did you watch the video? They breed the cats, take the kittens that have the looks they’re going for and have the others sold to nice homes. They treat the cats better than most people.
Shut up and actually pay attention to the video there getting better treatment than most college students
Captain SARKY that and have these breeds may make owning real exotic cats less desirable
If the toyger really is just selectively breeded from domestic cats, thats really cool
Michael, our Bengal, is probably the best animal either one of us have owned in our lives. Will definitely be getting another one at some point
But it wasn’t for his fur that made him the best as that is all these people can see.
@@healingandgrowth-infp4677 Respect others, I saw you answering in other places. Not everyone thinks like you, they don't have to, and people have different priorities in the world. If you care about adopting it's fantastic, others will look after humans as doctors, others will work for charity, others will look after endangered species of animals, etc. But you can't expect everyone to think and act just like you, that's unrealistic.
as a shelter volunteer, we need to adopt every cat in need before breeding them. there are so, so many cats that already need homes
There's always going to be people that think that they can be good owners until they don't want the pets any more. Stopping breeding won't stop pets being abandoned
I was lucky to adopt from a shelter a half Bengal/Domestic Short hair cat. Kinda a designer car for only $80. He is a handful but a love machine
@@shanewalker3273 at least there'll be less rejected cats that get abandoned
Not my job to adopt cats if I don’t want any in the shelter.
I agree. Fix them all and stop creating more mutations for impulse buyers who want a status symbol animal.
This is interesting from scientific standpoint, but ethically this is soooo wrong
yes this is terrible
Croatian Warmaster theres a difference between wants and needs
Moon Jar yeah we certainly need pugs lol
Domesticating is much different than breeding these cats for the reason “I can’t have this, so I’ll make this.” It is nice seeing this, but it’ll cause many problems.
@Moon Jar how did we need domestic cats?
Beautiful kitties. This is true. But, there are are millions of homeless cats at your nearest shelter just waiting for you to give them a home. 😺
They speak of their cats like they are devoloping a new app
The best exotic pet trade is one of the most disgusting things I’ve ever seen. Seeing those old photos of leopards in peoples homes makes me sad
You must not own any pets.
Alexander Oquendo I have two dogs, three cats, three horses, and one goat. None of them are exotic
@@amysennett7001 Suddenly when they're "exotic" it's not okay to have them? Are you kidding me?
Alexander Oquendo nope, not kidding you. A domesticated animal can be perfectly content living with humans. Cats, dogs, horses, etc. have evolved for thousands of years to live in human conditions. Dogs can digest kibble, cats can live in houses there entire lives. An exotic pet has needs that a suburban family can’t heed to. How happy do you think a tiger that lives in a cage in someone’s yard is? A wild bird that’s lived it’s entire life flying long distances being out into a space they can barely stretch their wings? Exotic pets and domesticated pets are different.
@@amysennett7001 yeah i totally get you but in terms of exotic animal its case by case. I'd say its okay if perhaps you're a trained zoologist, you live in africa and you rescued a lion cub or something that had a leg missing i dont know. thats okay because you grow up alongside them and theres no chance of letting them into the wild. but i think people should be trained and have the proper facilities.
As Bengal owner I strongly advise people not to get these designer wild cats. It's not fair to them to be confined and restricted away from their wild nature. They're just TOO MUCH CAT for most people. Once the novelty wears off, then you're stuck with a very energetic cat you can't deal with. very-very few people can provide an adequate home for these cats. NEVER GET AN ANIMAL BASED ON LOOKS! they never say what they do with all the cats that don't make the grade?
CATMANTOO I love my Bengal. She was a rescue and she’s amazing. I’m lucky!
They sell the ones that don't make the grade after they get them fixed. That way they control the future look of the breed, but people who want them can have them. But I agree that F1s shouldn't be sold to city dwellers. But for farmers and people with lifestyle properties, it should be an option as long as they realise the commitment they're getting themselves in for. Some people want that much cat.
Says someone who already owns one lmao
I have an F5 and an F6, both rescues. My F5 Princess is well behaved and looks wild. My F6 Fluffy is alternately scary or cuddly, possibly because she was abandoned and bottle fed, and looks nothing like a Bengal.
I have a bengal and he’s absolutely beautiful!! As I’m typing this right he’s on my back looking over my shoulder 😂 it sounds like you can’t handle your bengal..
I adopted a kitten from the streets. The best decision ever, I will never have that guilt people who buy animals often have, plus the connection you form with an animal by rescuing it is so strong and unique
This was fascinating. Thank you Vox for making these documentaries!
My two rosetted bengals are both purebred rescues, which is quite rare to find. They had been dumped in a plastic bag and left in a rubbish bin, all because Luna had a 'too short' tail, and Kuro had a missing leg. I love my Luna and my Kuro, and I'm so thankful for the amazing person who found them.
Wild simmer there's is a stray Bengal running around my neighborhood from the glance I got of her. Absolutely gorgeous. We tried to trap her, but she was too smart. I've never seen her since.. But she was absolutely BEAUTIFUL. better than the cats in those pictures. She didn't have the stripes, just straight up spots.
Thank you for rescuing! My first two Bengals were rescues and fantastic pets. I now have a retired breeder Bengal and a rescued F1 Bengal. Rescues are great and in the future I do plan to rescue more Bengals. They are, in my opinion, the most wonderful pets.
Child of Geesus g e e s u s
I own two pure breed Bengals named Anubis and Hermes. Hermes tail is shorter than it should be, he has a unusual nose shape without the dip in the nose bridge(I can't even really see and has no negative health effects) and he is overall stockier than most Bengals. He has shorter legs and is much more muscular and not as skinny than other Bengals. Makes him unsuitable for breeding somehow. He just turned 2 a few weeks ago and he is perfectly healthy and a sweet cat. Anubis had a typical Bengal body but his coat doesn't have the most desirable markings/rosettes. Both of them are awesome boys and we love then to pieces. They come from the same breeder but aren't related at all. Which was important to me. I don't want beautiful cats. It want happy and healthy cats.
Your profile pic is everything
big eye roll from me when they explained the oh so clever "toyger" name
Cyranek why are you here?! Go create some good meme! I need it...
ouch :'(
Cyranek
Would like but that comment has 69 likes and I don’t wanna ruin it
ruined the 69 lmao
Treating animals like toys is not a good thing lmao
Perfectly happy with my rescue alley cat.
The best breed of cat is rescue cat!
Caracats are my favorite domestic wild hybrid but all of them need a good home with people knowing the energy levels they have and the way to provide it
wait are you saying... *BIG FLOPPA MIXED WITH DOMESTIC CAT???*
@@EmuIsGone yas 👏
Do this to me so I can be an X-Men
Giovanni Damien Niubo it doesn't work that way.
Wowww
Giovanni Damien Niubo it's sound so cool
Giovanni Damien Niubo OMG, Ikr! 😂
Fernando M 😂🤣 lol
It’s funny that we went overboard with dog breeding. I have a Weenie Dog and I’ve done lots of research of how to care for her. Then I came to a stop..a video that showed how we corrupted the dogs heritage...(I think). The German Shepherd is shorter and is fatter than it was. My dogs breed has a longer body and if not hold correctly, its spine can be cracked(or broke ). The pugs face is more spatted in , and you can barley see the muzzle (that’s why they have breathing problems).
But my point is that I hope they don’t go *TOO* overboard like we did to the dogs. Hopefully they do it carefully like they said. :)
yes!! unfortunately we're sort of well on our way there with munchkins and persians. they're cute (well... some of them; i'll never understand the smushed face appeal), but there's something vaguely horrific about willfully choosing traits that you know will decrease their quality of life just because you think it's cute.
@@Em-fz6eb true,absolutely
That is what one calls the rabbit hole.
i really just wish they would just leave these animals alone and let them live their lives
The pug looks like it was smacked in the face with a frying pan.
They're all lovely and they're all purrrfect!💖🐱💖
I literally have Bengal cats as strays in my garden 😭😭 what the heck 😭😭 also in this household, we love all cats regardless of their breed and what not. ALL CATS ARE AWESOME
Did anyone else feel weird when he said I wanna make a specific cat as if he’s popping out iPhones
No- just you!
I found it rlly disturbing
It felt so weird
not really
@Boden McDaniel
Yeah, it’s sad to see that people are literally creating dogs just for their looks and don’t care about their health and what not. Hopefully cats won’t follow that path or a different negative path…..
when the daughter of the cat lady looks almost same age as her mom and anthony does not look any older.
White people age like bad milk
@@Sum_Ting_Wong doesnt mean other races live longer.
@@MrHowzaa ....not saying that at all.
If you all only knew how many cats and kittens come into an animal shelter every year especially in the spring. Cats give birth then four to six weeks later they go into heat again and the cycle is repeated. Many times they just leave the litter of kittens to fend for themselves. Sometimes Good Samaritans find them usually in bad shape. Sometimes there's not enough money or adopters to save everyone. ❤️ From a former West Virginia animal shelter director.
Imagine the peace if everyone neutered their pets.
This just convinced me more to adopt a black disabled kitty
if that guy wanted an ocelot so bad, does he know about minecraft?
lol
He probably doesn't know how to work a computer
He started doing this long before Minecraft existed
🤣🤣🤣 good question
But if you tame an ocelot you get a cat
With hundreds of thousands of cats put to death every year, this is beyond irresponsible. Yea they’re cool looking but so are my two little ones that came from a farm. Loves of my life
i doubt that they are actually breeding a huge amount of cats
Irresponsible? why? do I tell you how to spend your money? Instead of complaining to the wealthy who buy expensive pets, be more concerned about the plebs putting their cats down because they can't afford the 0.50$ a day it cost to feed it. Get serious
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No fun allowed
Yes, it's disgusting and it's legal. It really shouldn't be. Breeders are a huge part of the problem.
crypto junk lol u suc
Props to the person that made the f1 bengal, a wild cat in heat has to be one of the scariest things they've witnessed
“And this year, cats were invited”
“HEUIIIII”
“There are too many cats in the world”
“Yeah I know and I don’t give a heck I just want to satisfy my ego.”
the world is the same after your opinion
• •••• that’s my opINION!!!
No, she likes cats and got one to look how she wanted. That is how she spent her time. In the meantime, you typed a comment on a post saying she did it for ego. The difference is that she now has a cool cat, and you have a slightly worse day xD
“There are 500,000,000 cats in the world”
“Yes, I breed about 20 cats every year, so OBVIOUSLY breeders like me are the ones that are making all these cats”
Seriously, it doesn’t take ANY common sense to know that breeders aren’t even making 1% of the cat population.
You guys just want something to be mad about
@@cheapskategabe3148 If everyone would stop breeding cats there wouldn't be such a big problem
I want a helicopter cat
good luck trying to breed a cat to a helicopter, it's hard.
Bintang Anandhiya look up "drone cat", its already been done.
Well there ya go
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Apache cat seem looks better
Well get a cat and a helicopter put them in a room together and see what happens
His cat is soooo beautiful!
“I’m trying to make a very specific cat.” What a creepy, weird thing to say. This is exactly how horrible genetic mistakes like Persian cats and Bulldogs come to exist - poor animals that exist in pain from beginning to end. No amount of “cuteness” or “style” is worth subjecting a living animal to this.
Hey pursians are not a horrible mistake >:((
@@flourwasmostlikelyhere Yeah, pursians may not be a mistake. But persians definitely are.
"I know there's an overpopulation of cats but...man these are pretty cats and I'm not gonna stop because I want the fur to look a certain way" like what, why? For looks? Is that seriously how you justify this? I mean I know there are other breeders who are also harmful, and there will always be people who want to make cats for their looks rather than befriend ones that need homes, but the shamelessness with which she admitted that is just...idk, disappointing?
lol
@@deepstariaenigmatica2601 what's your problem?
Shutts poor guy doesn’t have a name.
@@deepstariaenigmatica2601 The world won't be the same if we write more paragraphs. It's freedom of speech, we as humans, have it and can use it as we like. Let's do some good with it, no?
Overpopulation is not coming from these cat breeders. It’s coming from everyday people who pick cats up from god knows where and never get them fixed, then dump them outside or let them out unsupervised. Bengals are $5000+, nobody is dumping that out on the street, and most if not all are fixed before purchase because breeding licenses are hard to get and required.
Toygers look really cool but I'd still rather get a random rescue cat, if I could.
Pick me. Pick me. 😿
David Smith there are so many cool rescue cats! I bet you could find one that isn't a toyger but fits your lifestyle and personality better! :)
My mother rescued a Bangel cat, Monkey, from a neighbor. He is domesticated but still a little wild. He picks fights with strays and even chases our other domestic cats around the house. If not let out he will ruin the carpets. He likes to be held for a short time, something even the domestic female cats hate, and has a loud purr and cries like a baby. He is fun to chase around the house and is not afraid of dogs. He even likes being touched by visiting friends and neighbors.
hackman669 Good for it. If there is Bengal or Toyger cats at the pound, then I would get them, if I didn't already have enough animals. 🙂
David Smith we actually show cats. When I go to cat shows there's many bengals and a few breeders. Just look up a bengal cattery and you can possibly get one.
I feel so conflicted over this video lol
As a biology major all the genetics involved in selective breeding absolutely fascinates me, but as a rescue cat owner I detest the concept.
I get for study purposes but after that...breedinh just for own amusement...thats just too far, bit like playing god and pretentious as well
My buddy's parents had a savannah and I didn't trust it at all. It was also huge, It was borderline a wild animal the way it moved and stuff.
Meanwhile, I adopted the feral kitten that was hiding under the bonnet, lol
gsilva220 me too and she’s the sweetest most annoying thing in the whole world and I love her to death!
bs1820 feral kittens are the sweetest of them all.
abdiel velazquez yep found a mother with 9 kittens under our pool table a year an a half later 3 of them come in and check on us regularly and we leave food out for them every day they’re some of the sweetest cats 🥰
As a veterinarian who has seen bengals and savanna cats in practice, I think it is important to warn people that these two breeds are much more likely to be aggressive than your average domestic shorthair. I have met friendly bengals but they are the rarity not the norm. If you really want one of these cats I recommend getting one that's at least 9 months old and has a friendly disposition. Also visit your breeder's facility and see if the animals they are using for breeding have good dispositions. While you may want a tiny leopard or serval in your home, I am sure you would prefer a cat that lets you pet it.
I was wondering about that while watching the video. Thanks for the info!
My two bengals are daft as a brush but they only show agression to each other and it's more like wrestlemania. In 9 months I've only seen them hurt each other (nipping ears rather than anything serious) twice. Any scratches on us have been accidental (hadn't trimmed their nails and they jumped over us to get chase a fly or similar) or during play. They are defintely willful and energetic but I have been late for work several times because they were being so cuddly.
I agree with meeting the parents. Our cat's parents seemed very calm and good natured. I read somewhere that you should avoid any breeder who won't let you see the parents.
That's awesome :). I have met friendly Bengals, don't get me wrong! But they tend to be more likely to bite me than the average cat. That being said 90% of cats hate the vet, so even cats that are great at home may be aggressive here. I have had more than one owner of Bengals tell me they would have gone with a different breed had they known that Bengals tend to be more aggressive. I have had two owners who expressed regret at purchasing their Bengal because they cannot pet or hold their cat. I think there are Bengal breeders who care about temperament like those in the video, and others that just care about looks.
Yeah, it sounds like bad breeders. Bengals certainly need a lot of attention and things to do and they can be quite vocal too. Ours went to the vet yesterday and yelled all the way. Once let out one of them was totally chilled and the other went and hid behind the vet's computer and refused to come out. One of the reasons they were there was to get a tick removed and even then he tensed up but was OK.
I suppose it's the same with normal cats. If the breeder sucks or the initial owner does then the cat grows up mean. It's the same with raising children. :-)
I agree, I have a savannah cat and he's pretty agressive, loud, and energetic. He's also pretty rude at first.
The Bengal comes from the Royal Bengal Tiger, which is found in our province of Bengal in India
Hmmm very interesting.
Beautiful, gorgeous, extraordinary cats! The one on the tread mill looks like a cloud leopard.
I breed cats and pick the baby that I like the most, *any good chef will tell you*
...wtf
Noah De Carmo yeah that actually really upset me. What the hell..
IKR, damn I find this video very outraging
Genetic gene pools are like a soup, he's picking the genes he finds most attractive (like ingredients in a soup) it's a simile.
THEY'RE GONNA EAT THE HECKING CAT
@@Sarah-re7cg its Just selective breeding!
Not to brag but my cat is the most beautiful creature in the world. Hehehe.
Sadly you're mistaken... that title belongs to my own cat ;)
Ur cat can't be the most beautiful my cat is the most beautiful
I disagree, my cat is perfect in everyway so like...
@@tj4667 I disagree, My cat obviously owns the title for most beautiful cat.
Guys guys. I’m sure all of your cats are beautiful. But my two cats are the most perfect kitties in this universe
I am a Bengal mom. My boy is my baby. Everything I do includes him and sometimes he goes to work w me. He's smarter than the many dogs I've owned. I have trained him, or he's trained me 😆 he is very expensive to care for. He only gets the best. Very active. They are not lap cats but the most loving animal I've ever had. He walks up and ask for kisses. He presses his face to my lips. I ask him for one he gives one immediately. Mine doesn't like toddlers lol he jumps high and hisses and scary sound. Never tried to attack. He thinks they are predators i believe. They crawl his lvl.
One of the unstated goals of developing the cats with wild cat coat patterns was explained to me at a show. Many of the small wild cat breeds are severely endangered. While efforts are
being made to preserve these breeds, the domestic cat people wanted to preserve the coat patterns in a domestic cat so that if the wild cat is extinct or super rare, they can
breed back the coat pattern. This I heard in the 1990's so I don't know if it is still feasible.
This is actually a really good point and I didn’t know that!! Hopefully cats they mentioned, like the Serval have made a comeback in recent years.
If not, I’m glad their coats are being preserved.
yea, but I feel like these people are in it for the money :( and we need to stop hunters and preserve wildlife too :(
It definitely isn't. Hybrids have no conservational value whatsoever. That's just a very unconvincing lie.
@@mirtabrkulj4951 I agree with you, but the people who are breeding bengals actually believe it.
@@mirtabrkulj4951 mhm! Bengals are pretty, but they should try to preserve the actual wild cats
the reason most hybrids are banned in some places is probably because if they got out they would destroy the local environment and already endangered birds etc
This is true but Savannhas not Bengals have been know to be very agressive sending their owners to the hospital for stiches also until after F4 the rabies vaccine has no effect on hybrids and Savannhas are almost always back bred so really the F5s are really F1s
Domestic cats already do that..
Please support affirmations with references. This is likely not true as lions, leopards etc are vaccinated for rabies.
@@tubarao1143 go to bigcatrescue.org wildcatridgesantuary.org and wildcatsanctuary.org and ask about this they are all wild cat accredited sanctuaries and yes they "vaccinate" against rabies but it isn't a traditional vaccine because the rabies vaccine is something call a live virus vaccine which is proven to harm wild cats it has little to no effect and can even kill wild cats so big cat Sanctuaries and zoos use a different type that hasn't really been tested on how well it works and can be very expensive it does kill the rabies virus but they don't know if it protects the animal enough to prevent them from getting it and since Savannhas and Bengal until F4 have wild cat blood the traditional vaccine has shown to have little to no effect on any hybrid tested
@@saturnvenice3123 I am sorry, but those are not valid references. No offense intended thou. There is no evidence going through pubmed CAB direct or web of science of such affirmations. I think it is important not to spread unscientific, biased personal opinions (not yours, but from breeders of such breeds).
1970: In 2019 we will have flying cars
2019: Buy our new designer cat
Better than flying cats
Flying cars wouldient work
In 2020 coronavirus
The Margay of Central and South America is a miniature version of the Ocelot and it needs to be used in a domestic cat project the way the Serval has been used to create the Savanna and the Asian leopard cat to create the Bengal breed.
Instead of bemoaning all of the excess cats of ordinary types, they should be spayed or neutered.
Another cat species that would be great to domesticate is the Pallas's cat or Manul.
Contrary to popular opinion, creating these new breeds of domestic cats is beneficial for the wild species which were hardly known before such projects. Now, many people have become aware of the need to preserve the wild species and their habitats.
My aunt bred and showed Siamese cats for decades and she’s ask for her staging area to be on the opposite side of the building from the Bengals.
She said they’d spray everywhere and her cats would be frantic if they were close to them.
"Wild blood" *scoops up cat like no big deal*
That's the point? An animal that looks wild and is actually completely tame. That's the goal for these breeders.
@@forestgrump4723 im just saying that it was kind of funny to see this wild looking cat be scooped up like a blanket
ikr he is not gentle at all
does not matter if it is wild or not
Isn't it dangerous to own an Ocelot named Babou? Some might say a zone of danger surrounds it…
One might even call that zone of danger, "Meowschwitz"
He remembers me!
BABOOOOOOU !!!
I had to scroll too far for this comment!
SEPRENTINE BABOU
Disgusting. No living creature should be referred to as designer.
Why not? That's what they are.
I’m not Referring to them as designer nobody said that in this video Bengals act like dogs they’re just cats I have much more break a personality than a Regular house cat
Love the fact you guys used a bengal for the thumbnail😊
i share my life w/two rescued bengals, littermates named ben and jerry.
they're 19 years old. we'll have been together 15 years in december.
bengals have a certain blood curdling scream they like to make, esp in the early mornings.
it sounds like they're going to shred their vocal cords. i've learned how to do it, and we yell and scream at each other. it's our morning game.
they're exceedingly lovable, and the smartest cats i've ever met.
and yes, i am biased :))
Loved this morning ritual, mine is a stray kitten and her morning ritual is try to wake me up by scratching and biting my feet lol
i'm glad you found someone who needed you. or she found you :)
i wish you many happy and fun filled years together. meoww!
My cats morning ritual is to walk as slowly as possible through the middle of my body until I start suffocating😂 {He's 30 pounds😂}
I’m not amazed with this. This is so sad. I feel sad for all these cats. They deserve home and love not being experimented to be loved.
These cats have incredible homes. You will never see these cats in a rescue.
Gage Tucker exactly. they have luxurious lifestyle lol
Yeah the pedigree cats live much better lives than the mugs lol..
Yep, I’ve found that it’s pretty rare to see a purebred cat in the shelter. I was looking at ragdolls, which led to long haired cats in general. And there are very few being regimes, and if you research breeders, it’s often the same people going back to get another after one of theirs dies, or gets old.
i dont think you what breeding is, they're not being experimented on, they just choose the partners of this cats to breed with that's all. They are taken care of and loved
as long as they are never truly tamed im happy to see all the new breeds in the world and look forward to as many breeds as there are dogs!
Absolutely beautiful!
Yea I have partially wild cat and before sterilization he was more like a bucket of dynamite in my apartment. Now after six years he is much much more calm but he's still major threat to anything alive. Owning a cat that is partially wild is very very hard. If you want a nice cat, go to a shelter and pick one up there. I'm yet to see a cat that came out of shelter that wouldn't be grateful for having home and family.
Killerean Totally agree with you.
Shelter cats can have issues. The cats that are giving up for those reason are normally euthanized.
😂😂😂
this breeding stuff that goes on with animals kinda freaks me out a lil ngl
Its the eugenics part about it
dani legit tho
@@dan-rk7yx yeah we should try it on people instead
@@Mrflowerproductions keep the nice ones toss out the rejects
@@oligilliganrobloxminecraft7953 Nah Hitler tried that already or went horrid
cats were invited in a dog show. "so we went to film them... and we weren't the only ones"
When it comes to cats, there will ALWAYS be someone filming, no matter what the setting is lol!
I have an F5 rescue Bengal and she's gorgeous! She has tiger stripes and rosettes and the most beautiful silky fur.
Aww
The problem about overpopulation of cats in shelter is not due to breeders,it is due to people that adopt/buy a cat then abandon the cat
Night Shadow Breeders are a problem, and its not just people who abandon cats but also the overpopulation from unfixed cats reproducing. Those people who are buying from breeders could be adopting from shelters with many healthy cats and kittens that are at risk for being euthanized.
Yep, that's why TNR should be applied to ferals and strays everywhere. Not only does it prevent future cat overpopulation, the neutered cats won't be miserable from being in heat all the time
Most animals in pet shelters are sterilized anyway
Yes, but those cats are in those shelters because of people abandoning them and/or irresponsible breeding (just thinking: i'd like my cat to have kittens and not having anyone who wants to adopt them). I don't see why breeding is even an issue, there are also a lot of human orphans, yet the same people advocating cat adoption only do get pregnant and never adopt a child.
I mean, I specifically wanted a ragdoll mix with short hair but a sweet temper. You won't find that in a shelter. And ever since I got her, people are like oh my god she is beautiful and sweet, if you ever breed her I want to buy one. Never said that I'm going to breed her, I don't know yet, but I believe that's very different from just letting your cat wander outside to get pregnant by any stray and then finding out when the litter is born, then not being able to find homes for them because no one is interested in another "average" cat, etc.
As gorgeous as these are and no matter how mouth watering it is for me to be able to hug and pet one, I can't justify overlooking those millions in shelters who are desperate for loving permanent homes. Another thing that really enrages me is that most, of not all, people who buy these end up breeding them (often irresponsibly) to make money. I am told that breeders who sell them charge twice as much for the un-neutered ones, but people don't mind paying up because they can make it all back...and then some.
so?
@@lemondrop8203 ??? 🤨
So what if there’s millions in shelters? People have the liberty to buy what they want, and besides, our own domestic cats had to undergo a selective process to acquire the vast variety of cost colourations that we already have. Just euthanise the cats in the shelters if they’re too much in number.
@@lemondrop8203 freak
That’s how “breeding” any animal works… the worry I have is one of the bengal cars getting loose & breeding with other feral cats… 🐈+🐆=☠️to bird populations in the US
I have two Bengals. I love them with all my heart.
I have a cat rescued from a breeding ground, she can't see in the dark and have many mutations on her paws and fur. But she is the sweetest little thing ever!
and look what we have done to dogs like pugs Chihuahua dachshund
Mike the Headless Chicken Dachshunds are relatively healthy if kept on a proper diet. If you want a better example look at the French bull dogs who’s breathing is incredibly like breathing through a straw. A way to maybe reduce the amounts of animals bred would be to introduce laws requiring a license to breed specific animals with greater health rirks
i have a pug and it`s a disaster...she cant breathes...one eye looks west and another looks east...i have a genius friend who says:let`s breed her with my dog!!!great
You remind me at Gattaca film! Jude Law.
It's possible but highly unlikely that someone will be able (without a dna lab) to create a cat breed like those dogs that can't survive without humans to care for them. Cats are predators (proper dogs are too). Don't believe me, just watch them hunt. This is Nature we are talking about, only the strongest breeds will survive by themselves with no handouts.....
Edit: they are beautiful tho..... Fierce I'll bet too.....
Corgis too
BRO HOW OLD IS ANTHONY
He's immortal lol cuz the cats blessed him
Ikr this man probably made a pack with the devil to stay young so he could go what he loves forever
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i thought the same thing....
Just ask him he got Facebook account..
I honestly love learning about cat genetics, I find it so fascinating.
Same! I had a point a few years ago where I just researched a whole ton about cat genetics for a long time haha
My mom once took care of a ton of cats that animal control released in a empty lot right beside her house. She had her hands full for years until she captured each cat and actually adopted them out like the animal shelter should have done in the first place. The frustrating thing was sometimes they would drop them off without even being fixed even though they were supposed to fix them before releasing them. Now the lot next to her house was built up so animal control couldn't dump the cats out there anymore.