Led Zeppelin’s Most Overlooked Album, an Analysis of In Through the Out Door

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  • @ImTheMarchetti
    @ImTheMarchetti 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As the guy who got the zep tattoo before hearing fool in the rain, I approve of this video.

  • @ThomasDaubert-p9s
    @ThomasDaubert-p9s 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What I love about this album is that it is so dark, particularly the second side. Plant's primordial scream in "I'm Gonna Crawl" ends the album so beautifully. Understanding the backstory of this album makes me appreciate this album that much more.

  • @ChasingTone666
    @ChasingTone666 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I have always loved “I’m Gonna Crawl”. Nice to see it get its props. Never gets mentioned. Love it. Great video

  • @rico420691
    @rico420691 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    At 65 and a lifelong Led Zeppelin fan into the outdoor is my favorite album and hot dog is my favorite song I always get a big smile when I listen to it

  • @ryaneijkholt4220
    @ryaneijkholt4220 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's always good to see this era of Zeppelin around 78-80 get more attention. I myself love the album more than III or HOTH. Zeppelin changed a lot after the 77 tour. Robert has said in many interviews he did soul-searching after the death of his son. There was also a lot of violence and bad karma vibes surrounding the 77 tour. I think Robert in those long moments of reflection became scared of what all the wild US tours had turned his band into. It's possible he wanted the band to ditch their rowdy reputation and become more professional. My point is that it took a lot of effort to bring Robert back into music post-77 and I think Zeppelin had to change a lot both musically and also reputation/image/behaviour wise if Robert was to be kept on board. I think it's one of the reasons the album sounds different from their other albums, especially considering Presence was so guitar driven.

  • @jamesbond4633
    @jamesbond4633 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm Going to Crawl is massively over looked by most people. I saw Jason Bonham's Led Zeppelin's Experience do this song live and it delivers just as much as Since I've Been Loving You in my opinion. It gave me chills listening to the strings opening the song up. Robert's singing is so passionate. A very cryptic way to end the career of an amazing band. Much like Riders ON The Storm did for The Doors.

  • @llewellynGS1
    @llewellynGS1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks for your thoughts. I am also one of the few who agree with you. I bought the album the day it came out in 1979, it was already #1. I was 14, and into much of the sound of the time which included more synths etc. I couldn’t believe Zepp had a new album because I thought their last one was Zepp 4. When very young my brothers would play 2 & 3, and I loved them. But for me at 14 In Through sounded very fresh. It’s still my fav of theirs along with Presence.

  • @markmiller7103
    @markmiller7103 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is the best review of this record I have heard thank you I agree with all you said I been listing to then since 1973. hot dog is great by the way

  • @AdrianNicholls
    @AdrianNicholls 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This was the only LZ album I bought when it was released. The whole album resonates with many youthful indiscretions and crushes. It’s a beautiful album and a tragedy they didn’t make more.

  • @robgasper8521
    @robgasper8521 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It was the first album I heard by them and I loved it. I was only 12 and it was 1983 so the synths and style changes weren’t shocking to me. I was used to that sound with recent rise of New Wave and Synth Pop. I can see why longtime fans might recoil from it but from my perspective and path of discovery I love it on par with earlier releases. I definitely listen to it more than any of their first 4 albums as silly as that surely sounds to older fans. Great video, I couldn’t agree more with your points made and overall analysis.

  • @garykristjanson4689
    @garykristjanson4689 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great vid, I agree with your takes on the songs, especially I'm gonna crawl.

  • @davidlynds9483
    @davidlynds9483 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was a huge Led Zeppelin fan as a 70's teenager. ITTOD was the first album of theirs i bought on release.
    I loved it...but no, not as much as III or IV or Physical Graffiti but it's such a bold statement from a band who made their reputation as hard rock gods.
    I think of it as what III must have been to early fans and might have been if Bonham had lived. An exploration, an album to subvert expectations but also one that many learned to appreciate as something very, very special. There is no other album like it.
    I listened to this so many times on my headphones while in bed. But for the record, i always hated Hot Dog. Now i can appreciate it for the musicianship and nod to some of their influences but i still don't want to hear it. Ever.
    Im Gonna Crawl is an AMAZING track and whatever anyone thinks of the whole album, this song alone proves Zeppelein had a lot more in the tank if they'd had more time to show it.

  • @ursaminorjim
    @ursaminorjim 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I genuinely and sincerely enjoy _both_ "Hot dog" and "The crunge." I think it's a necessary element of the whole Led Zeppelin experience, the unmistakably goofy bits. This was a band who slid effortlessly between the sublime and the ridiculous. Without the songs where their clear intention is to have audible fun, some of the ridiculous elements might've come off as humorless.
    Anyway, I absolutely love _In Through the Out Door_ from start to finish.

    • @llewellynGS1
      @llewellynGS1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ursaminorjim I like both also. Have you seen the bridge?

    • @ursaminorjim
      @ursaminorjim 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@llewellynGS1 Has _anybody,_ Llewellyn?

    • @llewellynGS1
      @llewellynGS1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ursaminorjim where’s that confounded bridge?

  • @anachronistofer
    @anachronistofer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Emphatically agree in general, but especially regarding the criminally dismissed song and performance of I'm Gonna Crawl. Easily one of LZ's best songs (top 10 all time) and I have to say the #1 vocal performance for Plant. I believe even Bonham called out the song in that regard, that he had never heard Plant sing so powerfully and emotionally before.

  • @charleswells8453
    @charleswells8453 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for your take on this classic album. I love every LZ album, including their last two which are unfairly underrated by many fans and critics. In Through the Out Door was indeed a new direction for the band and demonstrates how they were continually trying to evolve and expand their sound. I love every track and so what if something like Hot Dog is a bit lightweight or whimsical. It shows the diversity of the band and fits the album perfectly. I’m Gonna Crawl is one of the greatest LZ tracks ever recorded, what a final statement it ultimately proved to be. Their early demise means that their untarnished legacy is preserved forever in time, as with The Beatles.

  • @JamesBurchell-r5p
    @JamesBurchell-r5p 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Some dont like bands to progress

  • @ajo3085
    @ajo3085 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    It's a terrible album by their own lofty standards and "overlooked" for a reason IMO. It pretty much summed up where they were at the time as individuals, particularly Pagey and his issues, and even if Bonzo had lived, they had some serious challenges to address. Page took years and years to kick his heroin habit and get his life and health back under control and it's hard to see him having bounced back to his creative best under those circumstances in the short term. Depending on what and who you read, Plant was at the end of the road (or fast approaching it) with the idea of Zep in the 80's, and Bonzo's substance abuse issues were getting worse and worse as well and even if those personnel issues could have been overcome, by the end of the 70s/post punk era, they were largely seen as a "dinosaur" act at home and the disastrous 77 tour had left them with some issues in the US as well. They are my favourite band ever, but between the changing (mostly for worse) musical landscape of the 80's and the mess a number of key people in and around the band were in, I think ITTOD was about all they were capable of at the time and that was well below the standards or what had come before it.

    • @ComInBraille
      @ComInBraille  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Even though I definitely disagree with the quality of the record, I completely understand your point. The individuals were definitely in a rough place, to put it lightly.

    • @ManfredFechter-kc7iy
      @ManfredFechter-kc7iy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I completely agree!
      I was 15 when it came out, and NEVER got it...
      Didn't know anything about music history, but my guts said: Disappointing!
      I"ll leave now, to drink my
      Tea for One...😁

    • @ajo3085
      @ajo3085 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@ManfredFechter-kc7iy Thanks for the responses guys, and I guess one of the great things about music is how differently we can feel about the same thing. I saw Zep on their 2nd US tour and became an immediate fan. The first album was out by then (I didn't have it yet) but as each of the subsequent albums was released, 2 through to Physical Graffiti, each blew me away on the 1st listen then just got better and better. Presence took me a little longer to gain a big appreciation for but no matter how many times I've tried over the years, ITTOD just leaves me cold.... AGAIN.... by their own high standards.

    • @ringoliverpond965
      @ringoliverpond965 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought it was just another start to finish, outstanding Led Zeppelin album.

    • @Darrylizer1
      @Darrylizer1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was a huge Zeppelin fan at the time, bought all their albums. I remember being very excited that Physical Graffiti was going to be a double album. I loved Presense, but when I heard ITTOD's singles I hesitated. My sister bought a copy and I listened to hers and to this day it is the only Zeppelin album I never bought. Edit: Coda doesn't count.

  • @ragnadrabinowitz7629
    @ragnadrabinowitz7629 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    love this record. carousels bra is a great song.

  • @HoleOut
    @HoleOut 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! I cannot wait for the deep dive into the Beach Boys or Freddie Dredd. Your videos keep getting better with time, like a fine wine.

  • @dasherf17
    @dasherf17 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So many thoughts. I agree with James, I was enamored by LZII, loved LZI, III was good, ZOSO was great, House's lost me a bit and every LP after that had 1 or 2 tunes that I liked...but years later I collected them and found the differences to be good (opened up fresh ears)...

  • @00gvincent96
    @00gvincent96 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Being guilty of really only knowing Led Z by their over played radio hits,thanks for the insights and opening my music world, Not Dog is meant to be fun. I enjoy these reviews by you, well done.

    • @00gvincent96
      @00gvincent96 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hot Dog!

  • @JamesBurchell-r5p
    @JamesBurchell-r5p 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How refreshing to hear your take I agree and carouselambra is a magnum opus by John Baldwin

  • @OutOnTheTiles
    @OutOnTheTiles 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    “In Through the Outdoor” rocks! It has a bit of everything…..a straight up rocker….a prog song….a pop song….a blues song….a love song and even a country song. It also has some of Jimmy’s most exciting solos
    like…. Fool In the Rain/I’m Gonna Crawl/South Bound Suarez/In the Evening.
    I also love Robert’s more mature voice …and Bonham has some great drum fills……he’s solid as ever. And of course JPJ is all over this album adding some beautiful colour to it. I absolutely love Outdoor and it could be my fav Zeppelin album on any day. The art work is killer too. I believe I own 12 copies of it. Japanese imports and all 6 album covers and the remastered version from 2016 and a couple more from different countries.
    Zeppelin never had a bad album and no bad songs really. Everything was quality.
    This was a great episode that I really enjoyed. I love your love for this album. I feel the same about it.Cheers ✌️
    Ps You should watch “JCM-Led Zeppelin Stories” on YT here for a great six part series on the making of “In Through the Outdoor” you’ll appreciate it.
    Pss I love Hot Dog and The Crunge lol! The only Zeppelin song I dislike is Hats Off to Roy Harper.

  • @joescott8877
    @joescott8877 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Quite the interesting discussion! I also like -- and always have , Hot Dog, especially Jimmy's "Aw, shucks" countryfied gee tar solo work. "Carouselambra" could do with about a minute or so of fat trimming. I recall in high school laughing appreciatively at a CREEM magazine review where the critic said sometimes Robert's voice sounded like he was singing thru a fish- tank filter! Bad production moments aside, it was "good enuf" from this Best Band Ever. Try their "Tea For One," another Blues Atmosphere masterpiece!

  • @Ionx2000
    @Ionx2000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a 14 yo in 1979 experiencing my first Zeppelin release after wearing out II and IV…this was a huge let down… however it has aged well and from this perspective it’s a great album. Just hard to hear JP as more of a session player then a centrifugal force.

  • @rustyrobinson8027
    @rustyrobinson8027 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Liked and subscribed 👍🇺🇸

  • @scottdavis2252
    @scottdavis2252 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The lyrics of Fool in the Rain I would say was inspired by the 1950's song Two Silhouettes on the Shade.

  • @UnderTheCovers1
    @UnderTheCovers1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Darlene and Wearing And Tearing replace Carouselambra. During a live performance of In The Evening, Plant and Page incorporated the bridge from Carouselambra into In The Evening, I prefer that version over the overly repetitive synths on Carouselambra. Page didn't include Darlene, Wearing and Tearing, or Ozone Baby bc those songs would have been used on their follow-up album but it wasn't to be.

  • @DrWaites
    @DrWaites 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The only song I don't like from Zep is "Hats off to Harper." I've been a fan of the band for 34 years, and I have only been able to make it through that song twice. It's dreadful.

    • @coinraker6497
      @coinraker6497 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah one of the only songs by the band I really don't care for (That and The Crunge). Always amazes me that Page thought it was a better choice than "Hey Hay What Can I Do" for their third album.

  • @robbdoggydogg-ts9tm
    @robbdoggydogg-ts9tm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Talking about tattoos to this 22 year old kid at work. He didn't have any so I asked him if he would ever get one. He said he always wanted the Led Zeppelin symbols on his arm. I said don't do that, so cheesy and you might not always care about their music. The very next day he came in and had the exact tattoo as this video. Every time I see it I laugh to myself.

  • @FredBloggs919
    @FredBloggs919 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Subverting expectations = Disappointing fans

  • @majormal1
    @majormal1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They went out on top, just like The Beatles.

  • @thermionix
    @thermionix 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The alternate reality Bonzo-lived timeline would have required a seamless US tour with a Bonham family RV, and for Jimmy to kick smack

  • @johnandmaz
    @johnandmaz 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You make a good case for the defence. Second Zeppelin album I bought in 1982 after Presence. They’re my band. However from the moment I listened it just seemed a bit of a mess. The production didn’t help. Some gems as you’ve pointed out but overlooked? Yes. Underrated? No. Still decent but not in the same league as their others. Now Presence is definitely underrated…

  • @UnderTheCovers1
    @UnderTheCovers1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hot Dog should've been a non-album b-side. Royal Orleans from Presence would have fit better on In Through The Out Door.

  • @AnthonyTowler
    @AnthonyTowler 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    JPJ was creative force behind this album

  • @covell12
    @covell12 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant synopsis of the album and NO! i still do not like Hot Dog, The Crunge however is fine by me. Led Zeppelin best band ever!

  • @rokarolla
    @rokarolla 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sure, people roll out, but not so much dolls that walked in. The moral of this story is: SHE'S IN THE FVKCING HOT DOG CART!!!! OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

  • @ringoliverpond965
    @ringoliverpond965 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jimmy was out of gas as the eighties approached. His creativity was limited, although his time in the sun is unrivaled in the history of guitar. The light that burns twice as bright lasts half as long.

    • @ManfredFechter-kc7iy
      @ManfredFechter-kc7iy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ringoliverpond965
      I' ve SEEN Things ..
      You People WILL believe....
      I' ve seen ANGELS, sinning as F***, only to FINALLY get back to HEAVEN!
      ...(and so on, that's life, man...😉).
      And they ALL are
      Safe in Eternity
      Like SALT ...
      in the Oceans...
      This is my Tribute to the VERY best monologue of ALL Times...
      but I tried to put it
      Into the Light
      This is for
      ROY BATTY
      RUTGER HAUER!
      He rules the Impossible Realm...
      ALONE with his WILL, of
      Sur-Viving!!..
      "ICH WILL MEHR LEBEN, VATER!!"
      'nuff said.
      Blessings!

    • @gabbleratchet1890
      @gabbleratchet1890 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m not a fan boy freaking out, but I am curious what you mean by “His creativity was limited.”

    • @ringoliverpond965
      @ringoliverpond965 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gabbleratchet1890 Jimmy was his own category during the Zepp years and moderately impressive during The Firm years, but he faded quickly after that in my opinion. I blame heroin.
      Jimmy was my hero (and still is) but Mr Beck knew the instrument better.

  • @theebonbeasley
    @theebonbeasley 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought you were gonna play cashmere at the end but i like wonder wall too

  • @ryanweatherman-holt4805
    @ryanweatherman-holt4805 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Olive, my love...

  • @johnricco5366
    @johnricco5366 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    IT NEVER GOT BETTER THAN THE FIRST 2 ALBUMS. LED ZEPPELIN ONE AND TWO. HEAVY BLUES RIFFS ON STEROIDS. AFTER THAT JUST A COMBINATION OF FOLKY HEAVY METAL THAT NEVER CONNECTED WITH THE HEAVY BLUES OF THOSE FIRST 2 ALBUMS. CAN'T COMPARED STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN TO DAZED AND CONFUSED.

    • @gabbleratchet1890
      @gabbleratchet1890 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Led Zeppelin is, to me, the least interesting when they are just aping American blues masters. I’d rather listen to the real thing because it is just better. When they put their own spin on things, they become a truly great band.

    • @johnricco5366
      @johnricco5366 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gabbleratchet1890 they put their own spin on the blues on that first lp. after that first lp and maybe the second theyre all over the map. i find after the first lp i tend to jump track to track. i have the first 5 lps on cd. after that its a hodge podge of folk,heavy metal,and amped up early rock. if they never made another recording after led zeppelin 2 they'd made their statement. same with fleetwood mac. early stuff great with peter green before buckingham and nicks era.when it becomes more of an attempt for mass appeal as with led zeppelin or fleetwood mac it becomes less interesting. if i never hear stairway to heaven again it'll be too soon. give me dazed and confused any time over that.

  • @tobiasisback4605
    @tobiasisback4605 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree, not their best album but one I return to again. Some great songs there. I quite like Hotdog, it's fun 😂 What I hate are Darlene and Ozone Baby on Coda, like a pub rock band, awful.

  • @717rocket
    @717rocket 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked" In through the out door" better than" Presence".

  • @roywatson8133
    @roywatson8133 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    its been known as zeps weak album along with coda but for me zep never made a weak album

  • @coinraker6497
    @coinraker6497 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Through the Out Door is one of my least favorite Zeppelin albums. That's not to say I don't love it, I do, just not as much I love their other albums. I do like Hot Dog, John Paul Jones' piano solo at the start of the song especially.
    I'm with you on The Crunge. That and Hats off to Roy Harper are really the only two songs in Zeppelin's catalog that I can say I don't love....or at least really like.

  • @aisle_of_view
    @aisle_of_view 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not a favorite of theirs. Boy, did they play All of My Love to no end on FM radio at the time. Considering the praise they heaped on Jeff Buckley in the following decade, I could imagine later Led Zep albums sounding like Grace.

  • @chrisdelisle3954
    @chrisdelisle3954 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "The Crunge" is fine. Not amazing. Perhaps not worthy of going on the album, given the outtakes they had, but it's fine. "Hot Dog" just seems lesser, a step down. For a band that can come up with things as widespread as "How Many More Times," "That's The Way," "Four Sticks," "No Quarter," "In The Light," "Trampled Under Foot," "Achilles Last Stand" and "Fool In The Rain," it just seems like an odd choice. Especially with a track like "Ozone Baby" in their back pocket, or one of the other outtakes they could have used instead.
    But bands like Led Zeppelin and the Beatles (and many others) loved that early rock n' roll/rockabilly/country music and saw a song like "Hot Dog" being worth as much as the others. Much many fans' chagrin. This is also the band that put out "Hats Off To Roy Harper" on III rather than "Hey, Hey What Can I Do." Zeppelin never thought people would still be listening to them 50 years later.
    Anyone's opinion on "In Through The Out Door" really hinges on your thoughts about "All My Love" and "Carouselambra." The other songs on the album play roles that have been expressed before. If you like the synths or the sentiments, this album is great. If you think the synths suck and the feelings expressed are weak, this album falls apart for you.
    Despite it being one of Led Zep's "lesser" albums, I still think it's great. "Carouselambra," for me, is their best achievement on it. Just wish I knew what words he was singing and what the hell it all means.
    Good analysis.

  • @jorgesuarez7073
    @jorgesuarez7073 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is not an overlooked album. It is a mediocre album compared to the band´s other great records. There is not a song on this album that I would listen to again. Every poll shows that it ranks as the band´s least liked record. I see there are people who like it. It´s ok, I just don´t agree.

  • @jonlandin2440
    @jonlandin2440 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After their peak with Houses and Graffitti, the rock star life was bound to and did take its toll. If Bonham did not pass they still would have fizzled out IMO. This album is a weak effort by a tired Goliath.

  • @matthewashman1406
    @matthewashman1406 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Umm u keep saying pop,but they are a hard Rock group 😮

  • @Stonecutter334
    @Stonecutter334 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry wretched lp and Presence isn’t much better.

  • @Darrylizer1
    @Darrylizer1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is a lot to like about this album. But there's also a lot to dislike. What I don't like is that Jimmy Page seems checked out. Hot Dog is perhaps the most egregious example of his not being present. The song itself is a fun if slight pastiche of country music, but the performance is a sloppy mess and should never have been put on the album. Page was in the midst of a heroin addiction at the time and it shows.

    • @coinraker6497
      @coinraker6497 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah Page sounds sloppy but I wouldn't say "the performance" is a sloppy mess. The rest of the band sounds pretty tight to me and JPJ's piano solo at the start of the song is fantastic in my opinion. One of my favorites by him.

    • @Darrylizer1
      @Darrylizer1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@coinraker6497 JPJ really does a great job on that album picking up the slack as it were.

    • @coinraker6497
      @coinraker6497 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Darrylizer1 yeah I like this JPJ/synth heavy Zeppelin album just for a change of pace from them. Now if they would have kept going more and more in that direction on subsequent albums I probably wouldn't have liked it. Just as I don't really care for any Rush albums after Moving Pictures.
      By the way, I think Jimmy's solo on Hot Dog (Rough Mix), which is on the deluxe edition, is a little tighter. He probably should have gone with that version instead......but oh well.

  • @jackneidinger9544
    @jackneidinger9544 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I haven't forgotten. It still sucks. Jimmy sounds like a junky. The songs all bite the dust.