Cheap vs Expensive: Amp Simulators Joyo American Sound v Strymon Iridium
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- Can a cheap pedal be just as good as or even better than an expensive one? In this video I put the Strymon Iridium against the inexpensive and very popular Joyo American Sound to see who can emulate a Fender amp tone better.
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Product info: The Joyo American Sound pedal reproduces the sound of a Fender '57 Deluxe amp. It has a sweet sound which performs well from clean to driven, and everywhere in between. You're sure to find the right tone with a number of adjustable parameters onboard - Low, Mid, Highs, Level, Drive & Voice.
Iridium gives you three iconic amplifiers, with a total of nine impulse response speaker cabinets that complement the tonality of the amp. Skip the hassle of lugging around or miking amps. Place Iridium on your pedalboard and send gorgeous stereo amplifier tones, stunningly realistic cabs, and lush room ambience direct to a recording interface or PA system. With Iridium, it’s a snap to dial in a direct tone that will truly inspire and sound great whether you are monitoring through in-ears, floor wedges, reference monitors, or studio headphones. - เพลง
I bought the American Sound a few days ago, it's the first time I've ever plugged into something and had a tone I liked within 10 seconds. It's so good.
They're great, especially for the price.
I second that sentiment,I'm probably using it not as its intended but I really like it.i was horribly disappointed with my boss katana 50 but the American sound rectified the situation,it works with all of my amps valve or transistor
Hi yes, the american sound is great. I Use it as a backup to my main tube amp when i go gig somewhere.
@@brucehayes7251 I have a American and a Katana 100 2x12, both are brilliant, the Katana needs to be plugged into a computer and setup, does everything I need, but at the beginning, I still gigged my Marshall, as it is easy to dial in, the Katana took a while to get my head into, now I love it.
I agree, same for me. 40$ and amazing tweed and clean sound in less than 10 seconds. One of my favorite pedal and the cheapest in terms of price. It is built like a tank.
This video saved me $350 dollars. Ordered the Joyo and am putting the 350 towards the Fender Princeton amp I really want.
Glad I could help.
but if the pedal is meant to replace an amp, why buy one?
@@destroyerofdreams42069 I actually now own both the Iridium and The Princeton is loud at 2-3. The iridium soundss great better thsb the Joyo but the joyo for the money is a good alternative. I have both so I can record at home, have a backup. It often sounds better even depending on the situation.
The iridium better than the Princeton. Sometimes.
Love the amount of detail of your reviews and how you actually tweak the knobs. Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
Very useful vid! Thank you so much. I sold my Iridium some time back and bought the Joyo. It serves my purposes well but if I owned a studio or did a ton of recording I would use the Iridium. I personally just need a preamp for going direct when live.
The Joyo is great, I always have it in my bag as a back up. The other night I used it because I was outdoors.
@@JasonAyalaSpare Yeah, you would have to be more concerned about the Iridium.
Really good video MAGJ - and thats coming from an OAGJ but still 15 at heart...I have the Joyo American and agree about the fizzy...but keep it clean and it's excellent and a bargain to boot. Thanks mate!
Thanks OAGJ!
Great video. Specially cos I just received my new Joyo!. The comparison seems to me like a clear case of paying 1000% more for a 10% improvement.
Have had the Am Sound for almost 10 years. Paired it with a Line 6 M13 and now the HX effects. Recently I’ve been using it by itself for bass.
Yep, love it for bass. Nice valvey Fenderiness. Gives some very credible grit too.
If you have a small PA in your living room, the Joyo is the best thing for price, value, I could gig with this if needed, put a nice reverb after and you have everything you need.
The nice thing about that voice knob on the Joyo is that it controls the mids before the drive, which massively changes the character of the drive. It then has the tone stack high/mid/low controls after the drive.
The Iridium's mid knob is just part of its tone stack so it'll be after the drive.
Really interesting observation 🤔 Could you please elaborate if you can on hy this is very important for shaping the sound?
I bought this pedal when it first came out and it's been on my pedalboard since then. Just recently I got the Joyo Cab Box and that cones with a built in Amp power section. So I basically use this pedal as the Preamp section. These two pedal combined have completely become game changers for my pedalboard and for live playing @ church ampless! Thanks for your feedback!
@@musicman4christjesusthe knob alters the midrange character similar to how black panel fenders have scooped kids, vs a tweed midrange.
Do you think the Joyo into a solid state amp can get closer to the tube ey sound of a genuine deluxe reverb, than the tonemaster deluxe amps can?
The fact you can even compare the two proves how good the Joyo is. All the guitar tones on my backing tracks were recorded using one. Best sleeper pedal out there imo!
Got mine out last night because i realised that along with top end clarity the bass can sound a bit rubbery and not solid like my tube amp. So i put my old Zoom MS50G after it adding some EQ (boost 3-6k and 100-200hz) plus adding a light compression, basically trying to emulate a speaker. In the end i liked the Level dimed, voice @ about 2, Gain to control level really but still clean, bass and treb at noon and mids about 9-10. Sounded WAY more like my amp :). The Zoom can hold/toggle another 4 effects (reverb, delay, tremolo, fuzz) plus has a tuner, ill put a mini drive and boost pedal in front of the whole setup and i think i might have myself a nice fly/jam rig.
Love my ms50 but im always divided between using it first or last in my pedalboard, the EQs and compressions are great to use as a final touch, and the phasers and pitch shifter work great before gain. almost everything else i can manage to make it sound how I like independent of where in the chain it is (don't use the amp sims)
@@RayQuazawski Yea I know exactly what you mean :)
Hi can you do this comparison on humbuckers and with overdrive pedals?
Planning to use this one before the timeliness and big sky to use the big sky's cab sim at the end, I think it will sound great
The Joyo has cab emulation built in. You have to get it modded to turn it off. The Strymon can turn off it's cab emulation.
Yeah l have Jo Jo and for the money it's great I picked up mind second-hand to for about $25 from somewhere in Melbourne
Thumbs up from Geelong 👍🇦🇺
That's how much I payed for it 🇦🇺
JOYO PreAmp House vs Joyo American (British, AC Tone, Orange, California) sound ?? or can they work together ??
Again I think I should get the Strymon to replace my American Sound and then the internet shows me this, money saved - thank you!
Your go-to sound on the Joyo is almost identical to the sound I used to use when going into the front-of-house. Low: 1 o'clock, Mid: 12 o'clock; High 11 o'clock, level all the way up, voice: 10 o'clock; drive 9 o'clock. Whilst it's a bit of pain due to the extra weight to carry, I changed to just using the emulated speaker out from my Blackstar HT-5. I could never quite get the highs to sound good with the Joyo with my overdrive pedals for some reason. The Iridium certainly peaked my interest, but it's very expensive here in the UK.
The highs are the defining factor for me. If it sounds fizzy or brittle, there's not much you can do to fix it.
I played the Iridium and loved it. It's on my list. :) The other amps are great. You can practice with it without an amp as well - headphone jack. It also takes pedals well. I've tried a Tube Screamer and a few ODs. It's really nice.
The sound quality is immense
Back of the amp possible?
Hi :) I just wanted to ask if it's ok to place the Joyo before the delay and reverb pedals before running it through the PA? Thank you:)
That's how I would run it, especially if you are using it for drive. Any effects like reverb, delay, chorus, tremolo should go after the joyo.
@@JasonAyalaSpare Thank you so much again! I will try this :)
Middle aged gear junkie....can relate to that. Have to admit you can’t go wrong with AUD60 for the American or British Sound. Take care.
Can we insert different impulses in this pedal
you can with the Iridium
The deluxe reverb setting on the Iridium is when the mid knob is at noon. That’s what the instructions say.
That's right, however, I found that the Iridium sounded more like my Fender deluxe with the mids at about 10:00.
I have a pretty big pedal board where would you recommend putting in the joyo in the effects signal?
After your drive pedals
This American Sound have a cab simulator right?
Where in the pedal chain would you put the American Sound pedal if you had a Klon clone and a tube Screamer. Should it be first in the chain?
American sound at the end, it replaces the amp!
1:17 : Joyo Clean
3:16 : Strymon celan
The American sound is very good, just a bit too noisy. I love both and use both.
Thank you for this :)
In small venues that don't have amps, can I use this pedal and plug it straight to the PA? Thanks again :)
That's the idea, I've used both of these at 100+ gigs without an amp.
@@JasonAyalaSpare Thank you, I'll get one then :)
Do you plug it into a DI before it goes into the PA?
@@Shalini_Jay_Music yes you will need a DI box w XLR to go Front of House (FOH) I just used one at the end of my fly rig for church last Sunday. Worked like a charm! So much that I got another one to make another ampless rig/ board😀 this is a very useful piece of gear. And yes I do also own the Iridium and dig that as well. I use it for Fender clean w a dirty Marshall sound on the favorite switch. The Joyo took my OD/ Dist pedal very well. Keep rocking! We are in a golden age of gear !🕺🏾🕺🏾🤘🏾
Thank you so much for your help again! :)
These line of Joyo pedals are not amp sims. They were originally advertised as preamp pedals. I put my Joyo Oxford into an impulse response pedals and it sounds excellent.
As a newbie who wants to play in my bedroom, the Joyo looks good. Sorry for what might a silly question, can I plug a set of Sennheiser HD280 headphones straight into the pedals output?
Yes, the Joyo is designed as an amp and cab simulator.
Do u all find the American sound hissy with the drive up? I have one ... wondering if the iridium has the same thing
On the fender setting I tend to run it pretty clean. I have noticed the Iridium can be noisy, especially in 'Marshall' mode.
Are You using in this record a noise gate?
No. Just straight from the guitar into both pedals with no processing.
are you using DI Box / another cabsim or just straight from iridium and american to soundcard? can you explain the chain please.
Both pedals have cab sim, no DI box required. The Joyo cab sim can't be turned off or changed. The strymon one can.
@@JasonAyalaSpare where did you find documentation that the Joyo has a cab sim I've looked and looked. Thinking about using the Joyo Cab Box with it.
No amp, just pedals into sound card. The Joyo has some filtering that acts as a cab sim which you can disable apparently. I always use these straight into a PA live.
@@musicman4christjesus look for info on the pedal that it is a clone of.
I'm kinda new to direct input guitars. I play at church mostly and was thinking of buying the joyo just to get my feet wet. Is there anything else I'd need for that application? I normally play thru a hot rod deluxe with a pedalboard.
I'd get one to try it. They're dirt cheap. If you run the amp clean then you can put it at the end of your chain. If you want to run it hotter then put it before your ambient effects. This would also work if you want to go stereo out
@@JasonAyalaSpare I really want to eliminate the amp altogether. Just go straight in the board. Im not sure if a DI box would be wise to also get.
GrnEyedVillain yes it would be. Moore and joyo make their di pedal boxes for $30-40 usd. Or you could buy a di + cab sim for $140-199
Owned the Iridium for a year and it's... okay. Don't love it, but the room effect is really nice. Ended up getting a Milkman Amp 100 pedal and, whoa... it's been one of the best pieces of gear I've ever owned.
In terms of playing “feel”, which do you prefer?
Probably the Strymon, but neither really feels like an amp.
Does it need a power amp pedal like the Mooer Baby Bomb to go direct. I have no clue about direct. I’ve been searching for hours and just getting more confused. I would like to take my pedal board and go direct to pa to play with jam tracks. I have no clue where to start. Any advice would be appreciated!!!
No it doesn't need a power amp. You go straight out into the PA and you're done.
So...what if I wanted to use these on my pedalboard into my tube amp? I feel like everyone that demos or buys these are bedroom players--I'm concerned only with how to use these live within the context of my current amp/cab live set up.
They're designed to replace your amp. You can turn the cab sim off on the strymon and use it like an amp in a box pedal going into your amp. If you do this put it after your drive pedals.
Thanks. What is the riff you start playing at 1:18 from.
It's a little thing I made up.
@@JasonAyalaSpare sounds great. Little Mayer inspired?
@@jasonh3075 I can't remember..
If i wand to go on my gigs without an amp..what preamp should i purchase....
Plz suggest me any brands
I used the American Sound for years for a clean tone, then used pedals for my drive tones.
@@JasonAyalaSpare oh ok....thats great....do u know any other pedal...which sound better then joyo amarican
Where is the best put in your pedal chain for joyo first, middle or last?
Probably after drive, but before chorus, delay and reverb.
@@oscarabellorios IMO there's no better or worse, I use it at the very first of my signal chain (right after tuner), the sound suits my style a little more!
@@Singonthetree Tuner > Joyo ASOUND > Drive > Reverb?
@@JasonAyalaSpare Thanks man but in my experiment just notice joyo AM is a gem if you paired some any cab simulator pedal at the end of the chain. Just discover :)
@@Singonthetree kind of makes sense since the American Sound really is a pretty amp pedal. So if you run it clean, wouldn't you want the hotter drives to go after?
do you still need a cab sim to use Joyo pedal?
No, it has built in cab simulation that can't be turned off.
This video only shows the "round" (cleanest) channel of the Iridium, so it doesn't have any more drive than a clean Fender, because yes, "it's more amp like". Once you get to the "chime" and "punch" channels you get the rest of the versatility of the Iridium...this is where you find the Vox's, Marshall's, and more. To get all the sounds of the Iridium, you'd need all the other Joyo "Sound" pedals. With the Iridium you can add the Multiswitch foot switching option. This will give you 3 presets you can call up, as well as the faceplace and FAV sound to give you 5 amps at your feet. So, you can buy all the Joyo "Sound" pedals to compete with the Iridium, but you'll find the Iridium will be more "amp like" in all cases. And, you can buy more IRs to plug into the Iridium to get more options. But if you want 5 "amp like" sounds in one amp pedal, at your feet, the Iridium with the Multiswitch pedal is hard to beat right out of the box.
This wasn't supposed to be a review of the Iridium, as you say it's capable of much more than what I demonstrated.
Do these things do anything OTHER than Fender sounds? Deluxe, Tweed etc?
The Strymon has cab emulation. Is the Joyo designed to go into a real amp and cab? Or just a cab? Or do you not need any cab for it to sound normal?
The joyo has a preset cab emulator. Apparently you can mod it and remove the cab emulation.
@@JasonAyalaSpare hi how to remove the emulated cab sim in joyo?
@@race1365 You have to get it modded to bypass the cab emulation part of the circuit.
I think the the DAW/audio interface input was clipping for parts of this.
Definitely
your strat is so beautiful!!
Yeah, I like it 🎸
In terms of playing “feel/ touch”, which do you prefer?
I prefer the sound of the Iridium, it sounds more like my Fender Deluxe Reverb than the Joyo. The Joyo is still very good, I used it for years.
@@JasonAyalaSpare that’s cool!! sorry i meant the responds of our picking/ playing, cause joyo is analog is it supposed to have no latency?
Is it possible your signal with the iridium was clipping? To me it sounded way too crackly, almost like a bonfire lol... If that's the real tone of the pedal, no thanks. The Joyo is great tho.
yes I thought that too, the DAW/audio interface input was clipping
Can the Joyo go direct in a mixer. Or does it need a ir pedal?
It's designed to go direct.
@@JasonAyalaSpare YESSSS, THANK YOU!!!
I have both an Iridium and a Simplifer DLX. I honestly prefer the British Sound from Joyo over both of them 😅
I bought a simplifier. Yet the joyo sounds better. Simplifier is good but just doesn't jive with my drive pedals. The American sound is great with just a blues driver clean ish boost into it I've found.
@@OrangutanTradeSalesmen Yeah the simplifer sounded like a bag of pissed of bumblebees with my drives pedals. The UAFX Ruby and Dream are the best modelers in the market right now though. They destroy everything else I've tried.
I bought a Joyo American Sound and like it when the gain is down. If I move the gain past 2 or 3 o'clock, it doesn't sound good at all.
I usually run it clean with drive pedals in front.
@@JasonAyalaSpare
In front meaning before? Or after ...
@@mr.d.572 Before. It's like when you put your pedalboard into your amp input. I don't like the joyo american sound drive either. I use it all clean with my pedals too.
@@mefc1990
Thanks, I'll try that. I have other gain pedals.
@@JasonAyalaSpare i would be worried about drives getting limited in volume and compressed if they were trying to boost into a joyo at end of chain?
By weird that it may seem joyo sounds more good, sounds great, very fender old school vintage good amps I love it I'll will go for that one and save a bunch of bucks thank you so much for this video appreciate it
The Joyo full voice + full Drive => Too Noise ? can you test the noise with Strymon ? the same noise ?
Full drive sound good bro, but need to change playing style and speaker volume
Get mooer green mile + joyo, will be a beautiful fuzz type sound
I’ve used the Joyo for years and it’s a great go to amp sim for the price. But I’ll tell you it’s a headache when it comes to patching it with other drive pedals. It will compress every drive pedal to the extent they lose all their personality. Simply cannot compare their tones based on their sound alone, remember they are amp sims, they are supposed to be used with other pedals, mostly drive pedals. Then you’ll realise there’s no point comparing these two pedals. However, good review
I haven't had that problem. Mine works great with my pedals.
I have this problem too
Try to put the american sound on the effects loop.
Do you like replacing the 9v battery on it. I don't. It's like they remembered it would need a space for the battery after they already built them.
Works fine with a Caline Blue Sky, a good Combo
The Iridium really sounds pretty bad in this video...when I tried it in the store it was amazing...pristine cleans and better than any clean tone I ever tried.Is it the youtube compression making this sound so terrible in comparison or is it deliberately done ?
Same as my experience exactly.
I have both and the iridium sounds way better.
I can get the iridium to sound great like youtube demos (not this video), but i can never get the joyo AS to sound like youtube demos.
The joyo AS seems like they're specifically designed to use with single coil pickups.
All the good sounding demos of the joyo AS use single coil guitar.
Nah it’s the sound of digital clipping. Running to hot into the converters…
Absolutely great pedals for the price. I have several boutique pedals for over 200 bucks and the Truetones from Joyo are better sounding.
"Used it last night" and connected it to an amp? or direct to PA?
They're designed to got direct, no amp.
@@JasonAyalaSpare How about direct to headphones?
Joyo rules!
The greatest compliment I can give the American Sound is that it makes playing direct to PA acceptable. I loathe playing direct. But the Joyo works great direct to board.
Sure does, I used it for a few years. It's still in my gig bag just incase.
@@JasonAyalaSpare Hi, thx for the video. Where in your pedal chain are you putting the Joyo when going direct to mixer? I take it as the last pedal which feeds into DI box? I have Guitar > Overdrive > distortion > Chrous > Delay > Joyo (always on)> DI > Mixer. Is this the type of order you'd use or would you put the Joyo at the beginning? I basically put it last as I pretend the Joyo is my amp...
@@number1Don I treat it like I would a clean amp, with everything in front. If I was using it for drive I would place chorus, trem, delay and reverb after.
@@JasonAyalaSpare great, I got something right!
@@JasonAyalaSpare If it's in drive mode (middle part of ur pedalboard chain)? can ur pedal board go direct to PA system?
How can you post an audio comparison that clips that much? Are your ears working? Wouldn't trust your pedal banter if you can't even hear clipping but to be fair, about half of the guitar youtubers clip horribly. Elementary stuff.
There is some subtle differences that make the iridium better. It has a more rounded, sweeter tone. There is more body to the overall sound. It helps a lot to have cab options, to suit the guitar you are using
Now that is exactly my finding too. Most of those cheap pedals have great possibilities, but they take away or add something I don't really like. I can pick them out blind folded by now. So many reviews.
So hey, for a few coins great toying around. Long term...hmmm not so sure.
The joyo sounds good for the price..but iridium worth also the price..respect the tone of the guitar..but i had gokko american sound..not expensive price but it sound like expensive..just try..
can ya defeat the Cab’ simulation on the JOYO or is it permanently on?
It's permanently on, but it can be modded to have it bypassed.
@@JasonAyalaSpare cool!
What’s the best way to mod it please?
@@BeesWaxMinder I don't know exactly, you might have to do some research.
@@JasonAyalaSpare
Of course!
You’re quite right, thank you.
Happy 2023👍
You need to take the back off' inside there will be a switch to take cab sim in and out/bypass the circuit.
Don't know why they don't include this in the instructions???
Can I turn off the cabsim on american sound?
No, it doesn't have that function.
If you are a bit into soldering, you can do a simple mod, to switch between speaker sim on or off. You can google it.
@@MartIn-ud7nv its all smd components. They're pretty tough to work on & it's really easy to break the traces too. I've worked inside a bunch of these.
Yup, you can mod it...
I can hear the Joyo has white noise the Iridium does not have.
I have the American sound as my live backup. I have other pre amps such Boss IR. Sorry boss, while I love your stuff, for a nice clean fender sound the American wins out. Oh and it takes my drive pedals just lovely.
I still have it as my backup too
does the joyo add noticeably more noise to the signal?
It can be noisy when you turn the voice and gain up.
Joyo makes some really great products for the home musician. If they could just make their pedals be not fugly as f, they’d be perfect.
You're in luck. Their newer line, the Joyo R Series, are hella pretty, looks really prestigious and even lights up.
cool vid wanna collab?
Joyo has a lot of good stuff for the $$. If you’re careful with your spending, you could literally build a rig for $150. That being said, the switches can be funky. The Iridium is also great, but just does so many cool things,
Fizzy. But.... you're definitely clipping your input signal. Great video though for the money I'd buy this American sound. Actually I bought it a long time ago. 😁
The joyo doesn't have any speaker sim. I didn't see you taking this into account here! Of course it sounds fizzy w/o a speaker....
Yes it does. It is preset, you can modify them to remove it from the circuit.
@@JasonAyalaSpare See - I gave you information. Not speculation. It's up to you to take it or just dismiss ist. The true tone series is ment to be run into a power amp and a guitar speaker. For direct recording you need any kind of speaker sim. You don't have to trust my word. Just ask the manufacturer. Or just ignore it a use your channel to spread wrong information. Have fun, bb.
@@hbert06 It's not speculation. It is a fact that this Joyo (Sound Series) has a built in speaker simulation. Lots of info on that on various DIY pedal forums, along with the info on how to bypass it.
Am Sound anyday...
just ordered one "back", such a Fender Amp cavalcade, JOYO 40 €s , and 3-band eq! I remember turning downer the high and I had JAZZ! NOTE: I do have the ZOOM G2, which has a Twin 65 Clean tone: which I now use, a most wonderful pedal ladies n gentlemen the ZOOM G2! I have 6 of that model......
, so summs summarum, boy that Iridium sucks, I mean to my ears n eyes it just cant get good! sounds bland and meeh..to me...round/ chime/punch????? I want them all, and the A/B/C......,
the AM Sound is analog, but my ZOOM G2 is digital: STILL , using FD Clean ZOOM G2 does NOT sound as DIGI as the Strymon IRIDIUM, WHY??????
Stereo is a huge benefit.... I suppose you could buy 2 Joyos.
I agree, stereo modulation, delays and reverb sound amazing.
I play with an american sound on one side and the ac tone on the other... sounds great
I use the Joyo American in the loop of my HX Effects. Stereo delays and reverbs come after the Joyo. Works great.
@@joeprod1 it punches above its weight for sure.
joyo 👍
The American Sound is fun and good. With inexpensive does come quite a bit of Noise.
Joyo+Mooer Radar= very acceptable
Those JOYO pedals are the best $30 you will ever spend.
Check out the Gokko versions. I've tried them all side by side, gokko does a better job.
@@Dwightpower88 The last thing I need is more pedals :)
@@OhanaFilms That's what I said and today I bought 2 more. It's a disease. But I have tone for days, on tap.
Iridium great
I understand your comparison and all, but it just reminds me of people that demo a Katana then say , "But it's just not the same as my $1200+ tube amp".. Really ? No shit...
But like the Katana, the Joyo is an awesome piece of gear at a great price.
When you have a piece of gear you put out that is being compared to similar gear that is literally 4 to 10 times the cost of your gear, you are as they say, over the target..
Your recording level is from time to time too high and the sound is distorted on USB interface input - this is very unpleasant digital distortion because A/D converter hits the limit of signal possible to transform to digital.
Yes that was definitely an issue, I've improved the quality of my videos since then.
Joyo all day.
I used to hold the pick lije that
The Joyo sounds much better, it’s the clear Winner for me. The Joyo tone is rounder, fuller and sounds much less digital than the Strymon pedal, probably because the Joyo is analog and the other is a small computer
What strat is that, so pretty
It's a Mexican Deluxe strat.
Perspective. AU Strymon Iridium is AUD$599 from the boxshifters. JOYO American Sound is AUD$75. Pretty much the same price direct from AliExpress in 2024 after factoring in tax. I paid AUD$45 in shipping for mine from AliExpress 4 or 5 years ago. Strymon worth 9½ the price of the JOYO? Not to me.
The american sound sounds better for me!
my wallet thinks the same!
Without considering price, the joyo sounded better. But if you take price into account, the strymon is plain shit.
clipping recording bro
I did not see you use either the Chime or Punch amp settings which are entire categories the Joyo does not even address, so it's really not a fair comparison. The Joyo does 1/3 of what the Iridium can do at a ridiculously great price and that is probably all most people need, so can't complain, but there is more to the Iridium than is shown here.
I was just comparing the American to the Fender tone on the Iridium. The Iridium is far more flexible.
Fair enough - I didn't catch that it was a narrow scope of comparison!@@JasonAyalaSpare
I don't know bud, I don't think either sound like a Deluxe reverb. I only played through a Deluxe 62' for like 5yrs, so I'm pretty familiar with it. Neither sounds even close, the only thing I've heard that almost nailed it was those old POD 2.0. And that had a lot of limitations to it. They need to make a really good plug in version of the deluxe. The new UAD amp sims will drop kick that Strymon.
Ehh I don’t think a plug in is gonna come close to the iridium. The appeal of this vs a Vibrolux or Princeton which are obviously the first choice for anyone trying to make a record but if you record some or most of the tracks in a small home studio setup or in apt I just can’t do that with a Fender up to five or so where it needs to be. And then buying an ox attenuator for 1600 gets into absurd territory. The Iridium sounds better than many micd’ tube amps I’ve heard whereas I e never heard a plug in that sounded even close. I’ve played gigs with a Bassman, AC30 and a Dekuxe and had the sound guy make me play at z2-3 every time. Which at that point might as well just use a pedal.
@@dahliafiend I use a UAD apollo with either the Friedman buxom betty or the fender amp they have and I wouldn't go near the iridium. I don't think the iridium is bad or bad sounding. I just think the newer UAD modeling destroys all. Nothing comes close. But, I am talking for exclusively recording. Kind regards.
@@jmgmarcus808 ya my friend said the exact same thing. I just don’t have the money to buy a new interface.
the joyo sounds better to my ears and wallet
I use the cheap one. Not because of the sound, but because I don't have enough money to buy an expensive one 😅
fair enough, it does the job.
On clean sounds Iridium is better,very better and natural.
You know.. I just bought it and I thought it was going to sound close to my joyo american sound or ac tone.., absolutely not... not even close... the dynamics are just night and day... if you don’t want to spend 400 dlls the other options are ... mmm, ok... but just so people know... it’s not close at all
so, is strymon better ? you didnt specify
Specify please, which is better? Iridium or Joyo?
@@macsoto6947 The iridium is a loooot better... I thought it would be closer since all the videos that compare it sound pretty close...
the iridium has a LOT more fidelity and realistic dynamics... although the Joyo pedals are a great deal... if you don’t want to spend 400 dlls.... honestly, putting 2 joyo’s for stereo sounds pretty damn good... and they take pedals really well... my fuzzes and distortions get a lot of character from the joyo’s ... since I have a stereo rig.,, I used 1 AC tone on one side and and american tone on another... very, very good recording... the British sound one I didn’t really care for... but amazing choices for sure... but to compare them with the Iridium is not even fair... it’s a total different beast... the cleans sound amazing... and just the dynamics and harmonics are in another level... if you are serious about recording direct... or don’t have an amp... definitely consider the iridium...
@@Subtle-System all right, you sold me on iridium 🙏 thanks for your explanation... God bless you 🙏
@@Subtle-System shouldn’t the joyo have better “feel” since its analog
I have to mention, I really don't like your idea of what comprises a good tone. You cranked the shit out of the Mids and Bass and Drive on the Joyo in your quest for a "Tweed Sound", and it just gets messy. Add to that, you play with the neck pickup, and the thing sound almost like unusable fuzz! Let's just say we have different tastes, I guess...
Wow, you’re rude. He did fine in comparing the two. Why don’t you go buy the pedals and make your own video?
@@glynnpowell7864 he's actually right.
I really don't like the sound of the iridium, the Joyo sounds more "analog", alive and warmer, nearer than a fender amp.