Why Does Everyone Survive Lightsaber Stabs Now?
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Never forget the endless amount of clones that died to a slash, not even a stab
You escaped tho? How? And what limbs were cut off
@@The_B1_Battle_Droidyooooooo can I have your autograph
Although we don't know if every Clone or Stormtrooper who got hit by a lightsaber or a blaster also died or was just severely wounded, it's still ridiculous what happened in the last few shows and movies
Pretty much no clones died due to lightsabers...
@@demonintellect9834 Jedi temple during order 66, every Jedi that fought back during order 66 everywhere else, Vader killed a few, every clone killed by Ventress, Grievous, dooku and Krell, lots of clones died to lightsabers
Lightsabers according to star wars: portable body melter
Lightsabers according to disney: glowing baseball bats
Edit: yall really convinced me the disney lightsaber is really the bat saber from tf2
No
With sabine it does make sense
@@GunsAndAmmo3Yes
@@dontknowanamea i agree 💯👍🏻
@@fransthefox9682 nuh uh
-A beam of super hot plasma pierced through your body!
-Naaah, I'll be fine...
"tis but a scratch! It's only a flesh wound! Come back here I'll bite your knee cap off!"
Go away now
It's just a flesh wound
V
Reminder in episode 2 Obi-Wan bleeds after being cut by Dooku's blade. It should fry his skin no cut like a blade.
Qui-Gon with his lightsaber melted several layers of reinforced steel in the Phantom Menace when he tried to get on the bridge of a ship. Entire limbs could be cut off with a single blow if you made the wrong move during a duel, a lightsaber back in the day used to be a scary SCARY weapon. Vader brought some of that terror of wielding a lightsaber back in the iconic Rogue One scene but since then you can slowly see the demise of this weapon.
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Exactly what I was thinking. My most favorite scene - with the doors. (and the band also)
Lately made the metal bubble and here ppl are saying “oh it’s not near any vital organs” it’s not a sword idiots
I will say, Vader’s scenes in Obi-Wan and Anakin’s in Ashoka really did convince me that he could still do serious damage with his saber. The issue is they don’t spare that same energy to their other characters.
@@OSPires I would also add the scene of Luke waxing an entire army of Dark Troopers in the Mandalorian as an example, because it shows you how far above Jedis and Siths are compared to any other faction in the Galaxy when it comes to wielding deadly force through lightsabers. Djin Darin struggled with a single dark trooper, while Luke didn’t even break a sweat.
Actual lore: The power of the fucking sun on a stick
Disney: Baton that lights up
Sounds like Doc Ock. “The power of the Sun, in the palm of my hand “
Baton lights up, rave music starts playing
@@guitarbandit408”Precious tritium is the fuel that makes this project go, there’s only 25 pounds of it on the whole planet, I’d like to thank Harry Osborn and Oscorp Industries for providing it”
That is nonsense. Who believes lightsabers burn hotter than our sun? No species would be able to get near that type of energy and heat. A starship would melt or disintegrate if it got too close to the sun yet it takes a lightsaber minutes to melt and cut through a door in order for the wielder to get to the other side.
So, that is illogical even for a fantasy world. Physics doesn't work the same way in that universe but it would be way out of whack if the lightsaber actually emitted and focused that much energy.
Nuclear fusion housed in the hilt of a lightsaber yet takes minutes to cut through a door? 😂
@@guitarbandit408 that's what he wanted to do all along.
Disney: It is the Will of the Force.
The Force: No, it's the Will of your Shitty Writers.
Mark Hamill even states that "Disney doesn't understand lightsabers."
Mark Hamil wants Luke to the over powered perfect being. That isn’t a great story
@@jshipp5469, says who? It's just a bigger challenge to get a super-powered being right, but it's not like it's impossible, ala Superman: The Animated Series.
@@lanceislateagain apples to oranges
@@jshipp5469 literally the whole premise of the Disney SW sequels
@@jshipp5469 Sooo fucking rey?
Disney believes light sabers are nothing more than glowing bats
Seriously, the fact that Obi Wan can hit one stormtrooper over and over and not do any damage just proves that they have no clue what’s supposed to happen when you get hit by it
So did George when maul survived
@@keandregreen5628 okay but Maul actually got cut in half with one swing, that’s how a lightsaber should work, the fact that he survived was just due to his own rage and need for revenge fueling his dark side power and keeping him alive, which is a much better explanation than everyone surviving stab wounds for no reason
@@lukestarkiller1470if you have to put “rage” and “dark side magic” to an explication you are just making it more silly. Hey I LOVE Clone Wars AND Maul but he is there just because, Maul survived for narrative and fan services not for lore to “expand”
@@hosurosh4846 well Anakin/Vader survived his injuries for the exact same reason, it’s not like the idea of anger fueling the dark side to keep you alive was something George Lucas made up just for Maul. He basically said if Anakin can survive for that reason why can’t someone like Maul who’s filled with just as much if not more rage and desire for revenge? George has talked about how he wanted to push the idea that the Jedi are able to exist and retain their consciousness after death, but the Sith aren’t so they just cling to life for as long as they can through any means possible, even supernatural ones. And it’s not like Maul was brought back for no reason either, George wanted to set up Maul as the main villain for his version of the sequel trilogy. I’m sure some of the reason was fan service, but that wasn’t the main reason
Disney Logic: “Anyone can survive Lightsaber stabs. They’re no longer lethal.”
Qui-Gon Jinn: “Wut?”
Qui-Gon Jinn. and why wasn’t that a thing when I was around when did this become a thing
Obiwan. Like right after your funeral
Qui-Gon. oh what the hell
Darth maul
@@flamingophone Anakin.
@@ghostface4404obi wan
Y’all annoyed by the fact that stabs aren’t fatal because it’s unrealistic, but if something as hot as the sun existed, the wielded would be cooked
Disney thinks we’ll get all emotional if we see somebody get stabbed, but if you don’t plan on killing a character, don’t have them stabbed:
That’s the thing they’ll have someone stabbed for shock value
I'd be shocked or get all emotional if they would've first put up the effort to actually make me care about the characters, but not even that is happening.
Dude dont give them that much credit they dont think about other let alone what they are doing they clearly are lost when it comes to star wars.
People won’t necessarily die from getting stabbed though. In fact getting stabbed by a lightsaber would probably be better than getting stabbed by a normal blade as the wound would get cauterized instantly.
@@lucifrmrningstr2992 have you ever seen a starwars movie
* Qui-gon getting stabbed *
Obi-Wan: *NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!*
Me: It's alright Obi-Wan, just put a bandaid on it and drag him back to the ship.
Qui gon dies still
Obi wan gets stabbed in the future in the very same area he survives
Doesn’t even make sense
Kiss the booboo
Fuck bacta tanks
"How can Disney let characters survive lightsaber stabs and vacuum of space?"
Starkiller: 👁👁👀
"YOU KILLED ME"
Starkiller is an exception
Why? Because Disney destroys everything it touches
Andor and Rogue one are great.
@@Very-old-man🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
@@Very-old-manYeah so we got 2 maybe 3 if you like the mandalorian while ahsoka kenobi boba fett episode 7 8 and 9; that are horirbly written that all revolve around “hey guys you remember this guy from episode 3?” “hey guys remember this guy from episode 4?”
@@Counltdooku I’m not saying Disney is great, I’m just saying they have put out a couple of good things. That shows that they have potential to put out great stuff but fall flat more often than not.
@@f00lsgold69 Your favourite Star Wars film is probably revenge of the sith.
*gets head chopped off*
Disney:hes fine
Wrong they don’t allow dismemberment or even laser burns on armour anymore
@@Analog-1313 Jedi: Survivor Developers: "and I took that personally"
@@Analog-1313 WHAT ? disney did this also 😔
Presenting count dooku in an artificial body like general grievous
@@LuCoolUs well that wasn’t Disney, that was respawn
“Ah yes… the disney lightsaber” (in Grievous’s voice)
Ur disney lightsaber will make a fine addition to my junction
@@Lord-of-Gaming-007Your junk lightsaber will make a fine addition to my trash compactor
I'm sure General Grievous don't want to be trained by Count Dooku if he knew that Lightsaber stab isn't lethal
Grievous : i don't want it anywhere near my collection
Why does that work?
It’s just so confusing. Seeing characters in the kenobi series survive these stabs after others experiencing instant death in the clone wars it doesn’t make any sense.
See a majority of the clone wars is pre Disney, thus exempt from the new standard and thus superior in every way
I would like to say that Hati’s blade never hit Sabine’s spinal column which would’ve been fatal
@PepsichanEnjoyer that doesn't matter it still f'ed up one or two of her organs
I mean the grand inquisitor has TWO stomachs. He’s gonna be fine either way
@@lukethegoldenminecart1297ok
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Press F to Pay respect for starkiller 😢
And qui gon
@@Germanalbanianman2 yeah💚 but do not press F to Pay respect for JAR JAR and the sequel trilogy
@@Draven-u9j darth jar jar is still alive but the sequels can fuck off into the sun for all I care
@@Germanalbanianman2 "YOU HAVE GODDAM RIGHT."
@@Draven-u9j also r.i.p to my boy starkiller
Patch notes : -Nerfing Light saber by 80%
-Light sabers no longer kills
-Buffing fake Skywalker pretender to god lvl
A fellow gabzito supporter i see
Either that or u just coincidentally said 80%
@@SomeGuyArneo 🤣,😜✌🏻
Getting stabbed by a Lightsaber:
Before: "Guess this is it for me"
Now: "This but a scratch" 😂
A scratch? Your arm is cut off!
@@radioactiveseaotter don't worry, Rey here learned to force heal out of the blue
@@radioactiveseaotter Nothing you can't regrow nowadays.
'tis only a flesh wound!
@@radioactiveseaottera flesh wound
Bro Finn got his whole ass back sliced open and walked it off a few days later
his whole spine from top to bottom 😂😂 somehow he still walks when in real life 1 nerve in spine can make you almost disabled 😂😂
@@vananon51same for Kylo Ren, he literally got his face slashed by Rey. His shouldn’t even be having a head after that blow from Rey, instead he had a tiny scratch that healed in a couple of days.
Fin got put in a bacta tank. Kolto pretty much can heal any wound. That’s what’s in a bacta tank. Kylo didn’t really get that badly damaged when her lightsaber barely grazed him. Most of the stab wounds in older Star Wars have people getting stabbed in the chest, vital areas. Nowadays they actually incorporate realistic swordplay into the duels where people stab other places then just the chest. This when stabbed in a non lethal area people will survive. Or they take into consideration who gets stabbed, ie the inquisitor in kenobi is an alien that has multiple copies of organs.
Exactly he literally got his back sliced open and half of his spine was cut and fried
You cant survive that.
@@lucifrmrningstr2992stop defending it
The Sabine one is especially weird because she's basically fully healed a few days later.
A few scenes before, we see ahsoka slicing through metal with her lightsabers, so it's safe to assume that a blade going through you would leave a hole the same thickness all the way through you. If it hits nothing vital and cauterises the wound, then it's not instantly fatal, but there's still a lot of stuff to regrow. We see her moving and talking and with nothing but a little pink scar to show for it.
Bacta tank
I would assume that medical technology has improved.
In star wars there are prosthetic hands that are nearly indistinguishable from real ones.
There is no reason why technology couldn't have developed enough for them to replace organs.
Reminder Star wars has fantastic examples of how to lose but not die. Examples being Dooku cutting vital tendons with quick slashes on obiwan and taking a hand off anakin in episode 2 or giving a situational ultimatum to another character like dooku did to yoda in the same movie. It’s lazy writing, likely caused by disney wanting cheaper everything since they know it will sell no matter the quality. All they would need to do is get an actual swordplay expert on the team and have him dream up the right scenario. Thats just my two cents
Sorry to debunk your opinion, but I don't think you understand what you are saying. It isn't lazy writing. Yes they cut them with a lightsaber, but based off what you mentioned, they haven't hit a single vital organ, which if they did, then that would kill them. Just a few lightsaber cuts or cutting off an arm won't kill you no matter which canon. I'd say that is plausible it won't kill them because those hits didn't hit a single vital organ yet, so I don't understand how you would expect one of them to die just because they got their arm cut off or they got a few cuts from a lightsaber. They have to hit a vital organ in order to kill. What they are saying here is that the problem with Disney lightsabers is that they seem to hit vital fatal areas like the torso, and the characters still unrealistically survive even though they should have been dead. I'm sorry, but I do not get your logic of what you just said, because they hit them with a lightsaber yes, but it was only for disarming purposes like vital cuts or arm chopping to disable the opponent, making them unable to continue fighting and be vulnerable to a fatal bow.
Also, before you consider Darth Maul as an example of someone who lived from a fatal lightsaber wound before the Disney trilogy, well they at least went out of their way to explain how he survived being cut in half, and they had to do a lot of explanation, and it still turned out plausible and worked well with the story, something Disney canon unfortunately did not do with everyone else stabbed with a lightsaber fatally and still lived.
@@DylanShafer-ki3ks im getting the sense you should reread my comment friend i specifically stated scenarios that “WOULDN’T KILL” as examples for good writing. Disney’s lazy writing is basically only fatal blows never killing 🙂🙃 Your comments as to why my examples would not kill are correct that is why I pointed them out. I want scenarios in the star wars universe which makes sense for our heroes to live thus why I refer to Dooku cutting vital spots for movement but not vital organs. 🫡
@@DylanShafer-ki3kstechnically speaking, the same way maul survived could be applied to the others since to my knowledge no purely light side characters have been stabbed, but a confirmation woulda been nice
They have one, the original guy who did all the choreography for the prequels is more than willing to help but Disney didn't even consider picking him at all they completely abandoned him now the only ones who really know how to use lightsabers anymore is hayden Christensen and ewan McGregor, and i guess ray park but darth maul has kinda been forgotten by now for some reason even though he was featured in the solo movie
Okay that one person being impaled with all them light sabers is ridiculous
I bet he lived too
thats anakin and most likely is fan art or promo art, it is not canon
@@quinshortt that’s Kylo ren? He even has his lightsaber in him
@@TheRealLilPecka lmao im stupid my bad i just saw the hair
either way its not canon 💀💀
@@quinshortt yeah ik
Even in the Jedi Academy game, getting hit by an enemy Sith was serious. One bad slash and you are very dead or very near dead and regular mooks did not tank hits
More like 5 bad slashes and you are dead
Especially for enemies
Imagine stabbing someone with something more hot than the sun in the chest and them just saying "light work,no reaction"🗿
You mean like star killer in force unleashed?
point of fact if the lightsaber was as hotter then our verry own sun. turning the thing on would kill everyone in the room at least.
@@dominoscatnip5922Back then lightsabers still had the understanding that they were lethal and efficient weapons … Him getting impaled like that and still surviving - albeit very serious medical lengths taken by Vader in preparation - was supposed to be another testament to how OVERPOWERED he is. I mean, who else pulls star destroyer out of the sky?! Who else dummies Vader like a rag-doll? Who else masters every lightsaber form, force power, and then also creates their own? Who else is as OP as Starkiller?
No one. Which is why he wasn’t ever in the main canon.
@@user-vr5zk9ox8d That is an entire wall of cope. Starkiller was infact canon at the time. It's amazing how you guys will make every excuse in the world for your power fantasy, male protagonist. Just stop.
@@dominoscatnip5922 You have no idea how the canon worked before lmao.
Canon before Disney was separated in different categories. Allow me to elaborate:
Movies came first. In fact, they were about the only thing that George Lucas considered to be “true canon”. Despite the need to maintain continuity among the expanded universe, George stated that he considered everything created by other people to be part of a separate universe or alternate reality from his works.
That said, Lucasfilm wanted everything to be included in one big continuity and even maintained a continuity editor on staff. Despite that, continuity errors still sometimes occurred and had to be retconned later on.
Overall, the canon tiers went as follow:
G (George Lucas) canon was absolute canon. This category included the six films, some of the deleted scenes from the films, the novelizations of the films, the radio dramas based on the films, the film scripts, and any material found in any other source (published or not) that comes directly from George Lucas himself. G canon overruled all other forms of canon when there was a contradiction.
T canon referred to the canon level comprising only the television show Star Wars: The Clone Wars.
C (continuity) canon referred to the main body of EU work, and was the next most authoritative level of canon. All material published under the Star Wars label but not falling into G, S, or N was C canon, and was considered authoritative as long as not contradicted by G canon. Games were a special case as generally only the stories would be C-canon while things like stats and gameplay were N-canon. If the video game had several possible endings or if the player could choose the gender or the species of the main character, only one of each is considered C-canon. C-canon elements have appeared in the movies, thus making them G-canon. These included Coruscant (both its name and the concept of it being an ecumenopolis), swoop bikes, Aayla Secura, YT-2400 freighters, and Action VI Transports.
S (secondary) canon referred to older, less accurate, or less coherent EU works, which would not ordinarily fit in the main continuity of G and C canon. Unless referenced by a G- or C-level source, the story itself is considered non-continuity, but the non-contradicting elements were still a canon part of the Star Wars universe. For example, this included The Star Wars Holiday Special, the Marvel comics, the popular online roleplaying game Star Wars Galaxies, and certain elements of a few N-canon stories.
N continuity material is also known as "non-canon" or "non-continuity" material. What-if stories (such as those published under the Infinities label), game stats, "comic" material such as Angry Birds Star Warsor Jedi Academy and anything else that was directly contradicted by higher canon and could not at all fit into continuity was placed into this category. N-canon was the only level that was not at all considered canon by Lucasfilm.
Star Wars Legends
Games in particular were problematic when it came to canon. Trying to adhere to the overall story just didn’t always make for good game design. Or stories that had been told in games (like the theft of the Death Star plans) were retold in a better manner through novels (like coming up with anything better than a lone individual blasting his way through dozens of stormtroopers, snatching the plans, and escaping).
One game, however, is worth special mention.
That game is the Star War Role-Playing Game produced by West End Games. This is pretty much where the Expanded Universe started. Many background characters that were only seen for a few moments on-screen first received their names and stories from the material created for this game. Early novelists drew heavily on these materials.
And then Disney retconned most of this aside from G canon. I like to called Disney Canon “D-canon” in my own head-canon.
Fun fact in the original trilogy the only named character to die from a lightsaber is Obi Wan (unnamed like 2 slavers in the beginning of return)
Even then he didn’t even die from the lightsaber. He chose to give himself to the force right before Vader even struck him
They used lightsabers and the force so sparingly in the originals, it was like a treat when we got to see either, lol.
@@DuneekSpecial effects technology was limited, what can you say??? 🤷♂️
@@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy Was it? They literally conducted a spaceship battle against a space station that destroyed an entire planet 😂
@@Duneek We're talking about what you said, lightsaber combat and force abilities.
Not space battles.
It will never not bug me that Qui-Gon died to a stab but Darth Maul got chopped in half by a lightsaber and survived
Different species.
I like what ended up happening with Maul’s character but him surviving getting CUT IN HALF is one of the biggest piles of bullshit in the entire Star Wars franchise
@@thiccchungo1041Canon reason is that he focused on anger and hatred, and that allowed him to survive.
Maul is not a human being tho the anger helped him
@@jerkydefendant7186 adrenaline and spite can do a lot for you, saving you when you have been chopped in half by a plasma cutter is not one of them. Especially when you fall from a fatal height and then live in garbage which would infect the wound and kill you anyway. He is 3 for 3 for fatal events and somehow he still survived. Weird
Fighting droids: *slashes head off*
Fighting in a lightsaber duel: *stabs to make them come back*
Lore: Laser sword that melts metal
Disney: sword with LEDs
Its not like someone is getting pierced,
Its like someone is getting pierced and getting their organs fried.
they're for sure making lightsabers look weak
Because it's a Disney lightsaber, always the low quality choice
@@奧理斯-u9yxenopixel burn
Doesn’t mater. People think to deeply and put to much importance on in universe physics. There are people in the real world whose parachutes fail to open and they survive the fall. Shit happens.
Falling 10 thousand feet onto your head while a grenade goes of in your mouth doesn't really have a 100% survival rate. Same as a sword hotter then the sun going through your chest.
But hey big explosion is better then consistency i guess@@tpkdm71
@@tpkdm71 but you're forgetting star wars isn't real it's fantasy
"Quickly"
Meanwhile Qui-Gon is laying on the floor slowly dying waiting to tell Obi-Wan to train Anakin
Plus Maul gets sliced in half and somehow he returns.
No no, he's got a point.
@@Tracks2008maul never returns in the films. He only returns in fanfiction like the clone wars an animated cartoon made for children
@@user-ed1yx2fq7lclone wars was made by George dumbass
@@user-ed1yx2fq7l even lucas considered clone wars canon
JUSTICE FOR QUI-GON
I feel like when a lightsaber cuts off someone’s limbs it will be like in Monty python when king Arther cuts off all the black knight’s limbs off.
Just a flesh wound
That is pretty much what happened to Anakin
"I have the high-ground Anakin, you can't win"
...
"Come back and I'll bite your legs off!!"
Because they think lightsabers are just glowing baseball bats.
Says the one who thinks they are magic wands that not only defy physics themselves, but make everything they touch completely defy physics.
@@ohauss you just described “that’s cool”
@@ohaussyeah, it’s a sci fi movie
So then every single dead clone jedi and droid could have just gotten up and keep fighting lol😂
Droids probably could they are machines and some have been rebuilt
Darth maul also got cut in half and lived. Pretty sure it was bc of his hatred for kenobi and stuff but maybe it’s just the will of the force? Lmao idk
“lmao idk” is in fact the only correct response to this
I mean, Darth Sion used his anger and hatred to keep his rotting flesh together, so it makes sense why Maul was able to survive being cut in half.
Not only that, but it wasn't like Maul was able to come back unscathed. He still lost his legs and needed robotic ones
Dark side users have the unique ability to keep themselves alive through sheer anger, which was a well established rule early on in Star Wars. This logic can be applied to the Grand Inquisitor, who is a mediocre dark side user, although a bit far fetched in my opinion. However the same can not be said for either Reva or Sabine, who were not only lacking severely in force abilities, but also in the dark side of the force.
If I can assume, he probably just use his hatred and anger to survive. After all, look at Darth Sion example :-)
By the same logic and reasoning mentioned, even past examples of lightsaber wounds weren’t depicted correctly.
If a lightsaber burned as hot as claimed, the blade would do more than cauterize, it would quite literally char the the flesh, fat, bone and muscle away. Those types of burns are near completely fatal. The fourth-degree burns a lightsaber would cause aren’t exactly trivial. Even the removal of limbs could be fatal due to the increased chance of biological shock and infection and the fact that the damaged skin often spreads.
Exactly, people raging on disney lightsabers without a strong argument
It would do way worse, just a reminder that our bodies has a lot of water and you couldn't hit a place without hitting at least one blood vessel, with that high of a temperature, the blood would instantly evaporate wich would create something called a vaper explosion, so just getting wounded by a ligthsaber should instantly make that part pf the body explode due to the extreme pressure that a liquid evaporating cause
On top of that, if a ligthsaber is "as hot/hotter than the sun" you wouldn't be able to just wild it, you would fry as soon as you turn it on (unless you wear an armor like the clones/stormstrooper and Darth Vader)
So people saying "It shouldn't work like that" yeah well it shouldn't work the way you think to, there is reason why those people survive but still they believe that Darth maul surviving make more sens ? (I am not a sequel stan, i do believe they suck and much prefer the prequel, i just point out the irony of those complain)
@@Atherach You’re absolutely right, thank you.
@@Atherach The problem is that most people do die due to simple slash of lightsaber and like in most series they are still logic gaps, however the difference is that Maul had his legs cut of, but was immediately found by Morley and "saved" the same goes to Anakin, but these instances are rare and the only common one were people having arm or leg cut off in much less fatal way than the Maul or Anakin and in case of Disney them surviving made sense because they made entire plotlines , while Disney do it randomly without any planning. Another thing is that being stabbed with lightsaber was death without anything being able to save you, however Disney ignored it and lightsaber stopped being the most powerful weapon you can have and became much weaker to the point that anyone can survive it.
Yep, and as the blood boils said heat would spread throughout the affected area, likely causing some explosive results, as every single blood vessel ruptures at once, think homelander from The Boys, his laser vision is a pretty on point depiction of what happens when you slice someone with extremely hot lasers.
Qui-Gon today: *it’s just a flesh wound*
Everyone survives a lightsaber wound except Qui-Gon. 😊
And Han Solo.
And Jango Fett
I absolutely Love how there is no In-universe explanation to why Lightsabers became weak
I think the ”recipe” for a good lightsaber died at around B.Y.
Or maybe the deathstar just used up all the good Kyber crystals?
They did explain it though, they said that the force is female. So that explains everything from episode faux 7 to this craptastic new show
Exactly
That actually makes a lot of sense. A female usually doesn't commit to a decision, and likes to rewrite history depending on present feelings. So people killed by a female Force could actually be alive again... or dead again... depending on how Miss Force is feeling right now.
My god that actually DOES explain everything, even how somehow Palpatine returned !
And the force dyad made up bullshit ! And the fact that Palpatine's tantrum destroyed an entire fleet, because a woman's anger is the most destructive force in the universe.
In the last Ahsoka series, the girl ( i dont remember her name😅) was stabbed so badly but she just returned after an episode! It doesnt feel that real then.The effect is smaller now.
Didnt starkiller get stabbed by darth vader lightsaber???
He had really advanced medical technology to help him heal. But yes.
Also he was a clone after the first game
He was basically half mechanical after his advance operation. He barely survived.
And I believe it took him months to recover from that unlike sabine who was fine like the next day.
@@4bedStudiossabine had a magic lazer on the ship that some how fixed the damage to her internal organs
Also they turned lightsabers into baseball bats. They aren’t suppose to bounce off each other.
Luke's saber bounced off stuff countless times during his duel with Vader....
Because the suit wasn't made of lightsabres, if memory serves it had some beskar in it which lightsabres do bounce off
Return of the jedi is like 40 years old. It won't make sense with the current canon.
Vader didn't have beskar in his suit, but still a very strong metals were there + Vader knew how to absorb energy ( as he did with Han's blaster shots )
Also Luke hits a railing many times in those movies. Only when he gets angry in ROTJ he manages to cut through Vader's hand and the railing.
The lore just got very different across expanded universe, legends and old and new canon
if they burned hotter than the sun… then wouldnt everything around it just melt
If you guys still remember that one charlie brown christmas movie, there's a line in one particular scene where charlie brown accidentally ruins a christmas tree. He then says, "Everything I touch gets ruined."
I like to think that Disney is saying this to themselves, while watching their flawed decisions. Unfortunately; Disney is terribly ignorant, so that isn't the case.
Old lightsabers: HOTTER THAN THE SUN
New disney lightsabers: glowstick
**gets stabbed**
“ouch dont do that again anyway-“
They want the dramatic shock but not the consequences. Bc they are afraid to kill off important characters
We can't be having weapons that kill in a franchise that is half named "Wars"! That would be.... violent. :O
Its practically a glowing knife, the toy knifes
if lightsabers burned as hot or hotter than the sun, being in the same room with it would kill you immediately
Not exactly
Lightsabers have inhibitors, (Luke Skywalker mentions it himself).
@@naddicalit would still burn vital organs
They have inhibitors and are contained well enough by the technology in the hilt to only transfer that heat to other things and people on contact, and if anyone says "physics don't work like that", it's fantasy, technology is whatever the (original) writer says it is
Lightsaber blade is a cuting force itself its not hot or cold with basic crystal
People surviving lightsaber stabs began with The Force Unleashed.
Not quite. Yes, he was brought back, but only after needing extensive cybernetics to replace the lost organs. He wasn't alive either. He had literally died out in the vacuum of space. I think even Starkiller himself said he died.
But if you're referring to the trend, maybe. I don't really know about that.
@@abraxas03virus68 I played the game a bit and I think you are right Starkiller needed cybernetic parts and he was in agony which still makes sense at least to me but seriously I wasn't wearing any headphones and it was on high volume and during that scene when he was screaming in agony my mum sat near me and her reaction was priceless 😂😅
Nope.
He had help from a medical probe droid waiting for him after going out the window. That's why he survived. It's was all planned, I wouldn't be surprised if Vader turned down his saber power output first.
Plus I don’t think that game was ever supposed to be canon. Just like a fun senario for a game. The old canon used to have fun with things.
Question... If the lightsabers are THAT HOT, how the heck people can hold the hilt or even be around it?
Not to mention your own blood scalds you as it flows through the lightsaber.
Depending on where u get stabbed, the wound would already automatically be cauterized. This prevents any blood loss. The only thing you'd have to worry about is the actual tissue being vaporized/melted. Arguably, it would be better to be stabbed by a lightsaber than a longsword. The Longshore would cause more bleeding while the lightsaber would melt the organs and tissue togethe. Sorta like welding.
The thing is supposed to be hotter than the sun. You would most certainly die instantly if it hit you in the torso. Something hot enough to melt through anything in seconds is certainly hot enough to fry your heart if it gets stabbed in your stomach. 😊
Being stabbed by a lightsaber should, realistically speaking, instantly boil and/or vaporize your blood and every organ near the blade, but because it’s a sci-fantasy weapon it doesn’t do that in canon.
A long sword is infinitely better to be stabbed by than a lightsaber functioning on real world logic.
Bro, do you think organs are made of metal?
It would turn our organs into gas or some gloop. Lol
@@M.H.M1208bro if u lose a limb u can fucking cauterize it and save yourself if your quick enough
@@M.H.M1208king cuber😂❤❤Love u dawg
I think that depending on where the person is stabbed and there species it could cauterize the wound and unless they have immediate care they die shortly after, like Sabine had medical attention and was fine but the inquisitor in Kenobi was struggling to move that much
"Depending on the species" *Durge laughing in the corner
Went from portable star sword to sharp paper cutter
That's an insult.
A paper cutter is by far deadlier than a Disney Lightsaber
Let's be honest, since the original three...the rest have been BS just to make money.
This "surviving light saber stabs" is just one example of BS of stuff made after originally 3 films
If lightsabers are this hot it should light them a flame quickly
Qui Gon Jin:Was my death some sort of joke to you?
It was so powerful that obi wan just died after his body slightly touched Vader’s lightsaber
The lightsaber, literally Nerfed in our own lifetime....freaking war crime.
#gimmebackmysaber
For those who are wondering, the comic version of Force Unleashed states that Starkiller was gone for months after being stabbed. So within that time, Darth Vader likely did the proper things to bring him back without truly killing him.
Stormtroopers:
All of star wars now "tis but a scratch
Correction, the lightsabers burn as hot as the surface of the sun, unless they are burning so hot they’re 15 million Celsius, which at that point just igniting it would almost instantly kill everyone in a 150 km radius…
Yes. Even Lucas don't know how it work :)
I get that sometimes people survive to a lightsaber stab and it actually kinda makes sense or for example when Cal Kestis is stabbed in Fallen Order, you could argue he survived because of Merrin using her magic, but yes, as you said it is getting much more common than it should.
That shit cauterizes straight through and boils your insides
Bet you could walk that off, no biggie.
While leaving behind a hole straight through the body
@@blitzkri3g187u cannot,it will literally cook ur inside in matter of second
@@user-sg9ql8nk1u medium rare or well done?
not even well done,its fucking ultra mythical@@blitzkri3g187
Pinnacle of "nah I'd win"
Next thing we know, Disney will try getting a hold of Harry Potter, and then the killing curse will be doing a lot less *killing*
Avada Kedavra is the fus ro dah of the Harry Potter verse now
Don’t even blame Disney for Sabine, Dave Filoni claims to have wrote the whole show himself.
Sabine's insides are laced with plot armor.
I would really like to see some kill bill level of lightsaber violence in a future star ears movie.
*finds a power source hotter than the sun; wraps it in a material that conducts heat*
Makes sense
The blade is hotter than the sun surface when activated not the power source inside the handle. The power source is a crystal imbued with the Force.
Who remembers when lightsabers were actual weapons instead of toys
If Darth Maul can used his hatred to survive being cut in half, the other (minus Sabine and Qui-Gon) can use their hatred to survive too.
At least Maul had an actual lore reason, the writers at disney just pull something out of their ass and call it a day
But revenge isn't the Jedi way? That's literally what sums up every lesson in the prequels
@@Farfigschiter.Sorry but Maul was a big asspull too
@@Hamster_Muncher Precisely why I said minus Qui-Gon and Sabine. They are nor affiliated with the darkness.
That doesn’t fucking count when nearly EVERYTIME a character is stabbed with a lightsaber, they survive. And it especially makes no sense when you consider the fact that the sabers stayed inside of them for a fairly long time. Their organs would be liquid at that point.
Because disney characters are two types:
1. Girlbosses: aint no way they will let them get killed, they would get canceled
2. Weak men: if they die, the audience might feel bad for them, disney doesnt want to depict men as actual beings but just as tools, and if they die then who are the girlbosses gonna be bossing around and humiliate?
Don't worry about qui gon he just fell asleep and survived his burns when he passed out he's a robotic machine man now
If the burn hotter than the sun then literally everything around would melt aswell as the lightsaber itself 💀
its burns hot as the sun but its not as big as the sun
@@12_eyes41temperatures as hot as the sun will destroy everything near it size has nothing to do with it goofy ahh
@@arkknight8405size has everything to do with it. Or, more specifically: mass. We have recreated the heat of the Sun in a lab with a tiny mass and it lasts a very short time. It's easier to heat up a few molecules to an extreme temperature than it is a whole building, for e.g.
@@Icemario87 a light saber is on for more than a few seconds
@@Icemario87That "tiny mass" you're talking about is basically microscopic in a controlled setting and only very very briefly. When something the size of a lightsaber is as hot as the sun and is on constantly, it will absolutely destroy everything around it as the OP says.
force heal, force shield (like leia when she gets thrown away from the republic dreadnought cockpit) and force revive/ressurect probably also work as the lifesaver. the other thing should be accepting that it will be nonlethal unless it hits the heart and the survivor could use force organ restore or prosthetics organ as life support, or the thought that the story should be more dramatic with near death situation and without real death
I think the grand inquisitor surviving the stab is a nod to the comics where after his death in rebels his soul is bound to an ancient Jedi temple to lure Jedi in and kill them.
If its a non vital spot or an organ which can still function with some portion of it missing, it makes sense you can survive it because lightsaber makes the wound and also cauterises the wound itself when stabbed. Slicing mostly is a death sentence though.
Yeah, most of them get stabbed pretty low down, which would damage the pancreas and intestines, though it would still deal burns to nearby organs. So it is survivable, but that's if you're lucky and quick.
I mean, Sabine surviving: I felt getting stabbed was pointless, but surviving is possible since she had immediate medical attention. But Reva as a child? Who on Coruscant is running around the temple healing stabbed Jedi during a massacre?
Wanna know what would be cool, seeing the lightsaber lighting the opponent on fire while igniting the air on fire, frying both fighters which forces force users to learn force sheild techniques which would be the best reason why only force users can weild death glow sticks.
I know I might be exaggerating, yet thats how it would technically go since a lightsaber is literally a star as a sword.
It's getting ridiculous. The only excuse I can offer for this is that they're all on low settings but that's complete bs
If the intent is to kill they wouldn’t be on low settings lol. That’s still not a valid reason
@@hyperboi4077 9 likes says otherwise
@@WelshRaptor367 the likes were probably because you said “but that’s complete bs”. Which is what I agreed with
@@hyperboi4077 yeah exactly
Disney probably thinks it's like a sword. If you miss the vital organs then you'll be grand.
You obviously also don't undestand lightsabers. The blade is hot, but the area surrounding the blade is not hot. The surrounding organs will not be damaged.
Also the reason why the lightsaber doesn't slice through torso and head when the stabbed also makes sense. The stabbed person doesn't fall to the ground because the blade is holding him up. The energy in lightsaber is a current of power directed by the user through precise motion. This is why the lightsaber deactivates when dropped, and why it is hard for non trained or non force sensitives users hard to use the lightsaber properly.
Another thing is that 2 lightsabers pull themselves. ( As shown by Kannan in rebels). This is why you can't slice between Kylo ren's lightsaber blade and guard
The kenobi show was a shitty badly written low budget cash grab ( and it actually worked)
The show doesn't understand how fire works, its characters are randomly teleporting, and lightsabers are like bats against stormtrooper armor. You can't expect the lightsaber stabs to make sense.
I don't see a reason for people to die when they get medical attention quickly. Quin Gon lived for a few minutes. If he got help, he would have survived.
Also we saw people survive lightsaber stabs before Disney. We also saw people die to lightsaber stabs after Disney
That's cuz Disney ruined star wars they ruin everything
People have always survived in some way. There are a lot of examples in legends, just look at Starkiller! His was almost center mass and yet he lived
Why is everyone wearing lightsaber resistant armor weave clothing and anyone using a lightsaber opting to use a lightfoil instead that does a lot less damage nowadays? Thanks Disney, we downgraded to lightfoils (light duty lightsabers that do half the damage of a genuine lightsaber and are easily able to be used by anyone) that was a nonsensical choice.
If it's a very short stab, and it doesn't hit any very important organ it's possible to survive.
Most perish due to blood loss over anything else, and the lightsaber would instantly cauterize any wound preventing bleeding.
I take it that you have never experienced your inners boiling due to a blade with the heat of a sun.
It's plasma. While the wound would cauterize the fluid around the entry point would flash-steam and cook the rest of your organs.
Even blood in your veins and arteries further away would approach it's boiling point as it's transported through your body. Honestly, if someone were to do the maths and say the brain/cerebral spinal fluid would approach 43°C, I'd believe them although you'd probably be dead from other injuries before the brain cooked.
@@Galaxies3000 Maul has and he seems to have been doing fine for decades
@@Sesuaki19 I'm sure you have probably read the books or watched the clone wars, but you seem to have forgotten some details. He was driven _mad_ until Mother Talzin calmed his mind with witch magic. Mad due to pain, anger, revenge, with an overall mental breakdown. That doesn't sound "fine" to me.
@@Galaxies3000 For a man that lost his legs probably half their guts and their kidneys I'd say it does
It looks like you didn't read the Disney patch notes.
I think I heard that there’s a canonical reason why the grand inquisitor survived the stab. It’s because his race has 2 hearts, and the blade only harmed one of them. Bro basically has built-in life insurance!
“That’s not how that fictional thing works!”
Well sorry to tell ya, nerds, if something burned as hot as the Sun, you wouldn’t be able to have it near you without it melting you…. So why are we splitting hairs here..?
I saw something on this the heat actually has some way of patching things up quicker i think its closing blood vessels and as long as you dont hit the lungs, windpipe, heart or head you can still fight
Oh please, Disney doesn't understand how Star Wars in general works. Or any other franchise that they have absorbed into their collection, for that matter.
In some of the older movies you would see someone get hit with a lightsaber and just get pushed back with no mark it's more like just a glowing stick sum times lol
Disney understands how lightsabers work but they have better understanding of how money works.
Beause Disney writers are hacks.
Starwars began in 1977 and ended in 1983..the rest is bullcrap. Teo teo..🤷♂️🤷🏾♀️👍