The B1 Droid's Design is Lowkey Genius
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- The mass produced B1 battle droid is often seen as a cheap and poorly constructed weapon, but those who have fought these automatons in endless waves know just how deadly they can be.
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This means pretty much any middle class household in Star wars could afford their own security battle droid
It just reprogram it and it's a simple household chore droid.
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket and another simple reprogram can turn that household droid back into a a "security" droid.
They werent even that bad either with the proper maintenance. The CIS just didnt care cause they could manufacture them at record speeds.
That was a cover for them before the start of the war, I believe. "Security" droids were sold by the Trade Federation as a cover for their true purpose.
Also it shows how handy these droids would be in your house when people often picked up scrapped B1s and reused them for their own purposes. They were basically Protocol droids.
The Second Amendment as it was intended to be implemented. Every home has a military droid.
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I always believed the Clone Army's (& yes, the whole G.A.R. was purposely nerfed by Palpatine) structure was mishandled.
If the Republic had been smart (again, nerfed by Palpatine & not having a standing army in a millenia), they would've had a more "Combined Arms" arrangement, with a number of combat oriented droids integrated with & used in support of the Clones (fire support, energy shield carriers, cannon fodder, etc..).
Sort of how the Unggoy (Grunts) & the Kig Yar (Jackals) to a lesser extent were used by the Covenant/Sangheili in the HALO Universe.
Another way the GAR would have been vastly improved would have been to keep the clones' tactical roles mostly limited to high-risk special missions where their physicality, training, and specially-tailored gear would have the most impact. Most of the clones would serve _away_ from the front lines as trainers and advisers, either for a centralized Republic military or for local system defense forces composed of conventional recruits. A clone trooper trained literally from birth under a cadre of the galaxy's most hardcore gunslingers, mercs, and space-ninjas to understand tactics, strategy, and logistics is certainly useful holding a blaster or driving a tank, but he'd be even more valuable in the command center.
They couldn't do that for political reasons. Droids were being vaunted as a horrifying, unethical resort in conflict, and anti-droid sentiment was strong among those who truly support ed the clone wars.
To then use droids in combat roles would be political suicide - people might realize that battle droids arent inherently an evil concept, but rather a tool used by an army with it's own political merits.
So a Clone War version of the Rebellion, I like that but more Army build
As the other comments have noted, these "flaws" were all by design. The GAR was only as good as it needed to be, mostly for appearances, all while setting up the Jedi to fall, the Separatist droids to be swept under the rug, and the rank and file troopers of the coming empire to be drawn from the general population, both to swell the Imperial army's numbers and to remove potential rebel fighters from idle freedom where they may begin to oppose Palpatine.
If General Kalani joined the Rebel Alliance, he'd reactivate any Separatist droid factories he can find and command whatever Droid forces left as part of his Rebel cell.
And work together with Captain Rex and his own Rebel cell of Clone Troopers while doing some vitriolic banter between fellow Clone Wars veterans.
Grievous, those battle droids are expensive.
“It was worth it.”
The jedi are never that harsh on their clones.
Always were. Rogers are cheap, economical, and are exceptional swarm units. They’re the zergling of Star Wars.
I could get 3 droids for the cost for the cost of a Realdoll? I could run a small shop with a crew like that. And I wouldn't skimp on their programming updates either.
@Generation Tech Just a heads up, but the channel Radio Free Corrusant seems to be copying your video ideas constantly.
I still prefer to watch Geration Tech though, he is a better speaker and goes into better details.
I don't think a small channel talking about lore or doing tierlists is "copying". Every Star Wars lore/discussion channel does this.
Many others like geestys do something similar to that so I think it's fine probably
I remember in the novel Survivor's Quest by Timothy Zhan, they talk about the droid army and one of the characters say that "the problem with an army of battle Droids was that they were really stupid." The idea that "battle droids are bad because they're dumb" really confused me. You don't need to be intelligent to pull a trigger. But it goes to show that the Galaxy doesn't know that the war was manufactured, and to this day, most of the galaxy still believes that droids are inherently inferior to flesh and blood soldiers. It really makes you think.
they might be dangerous but who dosent find them adorable too simply has no soul!
Nobody laughs at Mr Bones, well nobody laughs at him more than once!
I always assumed that mentions of "ramping up Production" were supplementing the Kaminoan process with the use of the Spaarti Cylinder to Fill out the ranks with more... Semi-Disposable clones.
yeah in fact that was specifically in the pre-Disney lore about the prequals/clone wars era after the prequals were out. The Kaminoans weren't fast enough to keep up with losses and they were only maintaining numbers via lower quality spaarti clones with memories and training flash dumped into their brains as they were grown.
At least once in the books (either in Yoda - Dark Rendezvous, or Labyrinth of Evil) Dooku thinks to himself "Surely it would be easier just to win - to let the droid army completely overwhelm the Republic" while reflecting on the adage that the solution you get to a problem depends on who you present it to, and that because Lord Sidious was a schemer, he would only allow a grand scheme rather than a straightforward approach.
I need a Disney+ show where a repurposed battle Droid is a part of the crew
Star Wars Resistance.
A B-1 and a squad of Super Battle Droids were 'acquired' from pirates after one of the good guys reprogrammed the B-1 to betray the pirates and take control of the other droids.
B-1 was a fun character until he & the S.B. Droids were destroyed in a later episode 😢
Well there is that Lego Star Wars show that has a pieced together B1 named Roger if I remember correctly
Outlaws is kinda there with a commando droid , he gets a huge arc in the second half with a focus on it which was wild
YEESSSSS MORE DROIDS
The Aftermath book trilogy has a pretty sweet B1 sidekick
Damn, dude, I just wrote a star wars fanfic about New Alderaan defending against Zygerria and I included a part where B1s were used to supplement the lack of manpower, and a government mandate is implemented wherein every family is required to own one reprogrammed B1 battledroid for domestic service as to have an immediate manpower surplus in case of emergency (and to engage economy of scale upon the introduction of B1s to the military as to lower the overall cost.)
The Mechanicus approves as you're preaching the strength of steel over the weakness of the flesh
and yet it is Abominable Intelligence!!!!!!
@@rafelingd I question the Intelligence part...but you're not wrong. Omnissiah protect!
Cannon fodder, cheap and capable enough to do things. Surprisingly, they are very effective.
Alimony and child support sound like indentured survitude
Aside from using 18th century tactics (somewhat justifiable with the original, centrally controlled, models but not with the later independent ones), the Droid Army definitely made more sense than the clones. Like Stalin said, "Quantity has a quality all its own." I'd also add a newer phrase I've come across, "Never send a man where you can send a machine."
If it wasn't for Sith fuckery, the Separatist Crisis would likely have ended either relatively peacefully or after a short thunder run to Coruscant. While even without the Jedi or Clone Army, the core worlds could have eventually ground down the CIS by mobilizing for total war, I don't think many would've thought the price in blood and treasure worth it. Then again, I would've said the same thing in 1860, so what do I know?
Why hasn't the FBI or CIA . Arrested or azz sas sin nated their opposing viters already if they have the numbers
There is major drawback to a droid army and its big one. That’s weakness to electronic warfare and being hacked and taken over by your enemy. It’s impossible to a completely secure platform on a computer based system. So the Republic in this case would just need to develop tools to widely take over the separatists army to either shut them down or turn them against their own side. There is always a cost for the advantages you seek. If the Republic really wanted to win this is the likely way they would have pursued that goal.
Wish the rebel Alliance supplemented their low personal with some cheap battle droids. But alas Lucas hadn't envisioned the sequels yet
It really makes me interested on what would happen if the Rebel Alliance got their hands on an intact Super Tactical Droid?
"Taxation without federation" lol
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Love your vids keep it up
Did any supratist question Duku's incompetence
"Republic procurement records" indicate that the Clone Trooper's main blaster was 2200 credits...WOW, you are SO deep in the lore! It is insane that the number even exists! That's why we love you!
Well, I'm almost inclined to doubt your allegiance to the republic. To democracy. Treacherous words were uttered here. 😂
The Arc-170 was the perfect example how a B1 would be useful to the RA. Have the R2 unit control the rear gunner while the B1 operates the main guns. The B1 could also be useful for starfighter maintenance.
If droids can send data. Then they upload just before they blow up
The Clone army had thousands of Jedi compard 2 sith plus 1 vebtress. Jedie could destroy thousands of droids millions . Plus Also recruiys from the population
Estimates to raise a child born in 2018 in the United States from birth to 18 is 1,000,000$.
The AK47 of the Clone Wars, cheap and reliable.
It's like mining the raw materials, then manufacturing all the products for Walmart. Growing the basic food items and then processing them for Walmart. Buying the goods from and using the services of, Walmart. Finally, renting your homes or buying them from... you guessed it, Walmart. Walmart would have fit right in at the Outer Rim...
A well balanced army in the Star Wars Universe I think might be a mix of high-end clone troopers and battle droids for superior soldiering and firepower, and low end battle droids and draftee/volunteers for mass. You can imagine for the New Republic local defense forces including B1 Battledroids.
I just want to mention that in Attack of the clones, when the Kamino says that 200 000 units are ready, he's not talking about individual clones.
A unit would be a military unit which would includ roughly 3004 individuals including soldiers, non-comission officers and comissioned officers
Given palpatines "plans within plans within plans" mentality - the comparatively small republic army was likely also by design. Whilst most Human occupied worlds, especially within the core regions, we're predominantly demilitarised (or had no military culture of any kind) - with planetary/planetary system defence placed in the hands of local planetary/system fleets who were decades/centuries out of practice (and underfunded) and/or mercenary fleets, "Alien" worlds appeared to still have a more prominent and visible military presence. We easily see this with the trade federation occupation of Naboo, where the human populations under the control and protection of theed surrender within a day, all the while the Gunguns hold out until the end of the conflict and even put their grand army head to head against the droid forces (albeit in a battlefield made to egg on a droid response, so not the preferred battlefield for the Gunguns). So, one aspect that palpatine needed to achieve with the clone wars was the neutralisation of these alien militaries, but also get the world's whose militaries were neutralised by the war to vote with him on the creation of the new volunteer imperial army/navy.
One tactic to neutralise would be to make sure that a lot of alien worlds were part of the separatist block. That can be delt with in post-war policy. For those worlds still within the republic... Well... Wouldn't it be terrible for the clone army if they had to fight droids built for a specific environment that the clones can't quickly adapt to? Oh dear how terrible. If only the republic had other armed forces capable of doing what the clones can't.... Oh. Wait. So you get Gunguns deployed as part of the great army of the republic to fight on Moncala. But also, sidious makes sure that many of the worlds chosen by the droids for occupation are those with said standing military forces - so clones fight side by side with local alien armies. Arm in arm. Body by body. By the end of the war Mon cala, thengungungs, twileks, rodians etc. have shed more blood for the galaxy than any human on courasant or Corellia combined... That might make them bitter, their worlds ravaged, their sons and daughters killed so that privileged pups in the core who can't even handle their own population growth can sleep well. So when palpatines empire brings up the idea of an imperial navy/army which will mostly take on human recruiters, these alien worlds vote form it because "our kind spilt our blood and died in the streets to form this empire! You humans can at least deal with your overpopulation problem by finally doing the honourable thing and putting YOUR sons and daughters on the front line!". For the human population it's a "pro-human" ideology, for the alien representatives it's a "now you must suffer" ideology. For palpatines it's a win-win. But for poor old B-1 it's no roger-roger.
Maybe it's true that droids were more efficient in this timeline but imagine another timeline where the clone army had another 20 years to prepare and maybe even a smaller scale war before the civil war. Commanders being a lot more competent, far more soldiers and battlefield doctrine refined by war. I think all of these things considered it would've been far more realistic for the GAR to actually win. There are plenty of real-world cases where a smaller much more elite force stands victorious or at least causes a white peace in the conflict against far larger forces. Granted nothing on the scale to which the clones were outnumbered.
10:14 Just looking at US military history and it's patterns of success and failure shows that just like everywhere else micromanaging is fatal to organizations.
What could unarguably be called the US's military Golden Ages are times in which US soldiers are given more leeway and less supervision. Time periods in which it is run by those with a control fetish nets us uncountable mini wars that cost us disproportionately in money and lives and are usually abject failures with the PoF being directly traceable to over management and direct interference on a rather personal basis.
I've known several Iraq & Afghanistan war vets who were sniper/marksmen who had to watch *known* threats live their lives because someone in Washington LITERALLY called their commander to nix the shot when they called the target in.
In war a marksman in the field should NEVER be told to not shoot the enemy by someone 10,000 miles away. Just like a field commander shouldn't ever have to worry about an enemy strong point he's not ALLOWED to take out because it's too close to something a politician in DC has financial stakes in.
And logistics personnel shouldn't ever have to worry about idiocy like Macnamera's "War by Numbers" idiocy (every bullet fired *must* equal one enemy eliminated, resupply based on prior use like a peace time factory instead of reality, etc)
Would you consider exploring genetics and evolution of different species? I’ve noticed sentient beings in Star Wars don’t have tails. Is there a reason for this? Are the reasons for other unique qualities in other sentient beings?
i think if the cis went the extra mile and had it cost 2000 it could get better programming to be as effective as a conscript soldier
Here's something that I don't think is necessarily discussed very often: it didn't actually matter much that the clones were outnumbered in theory. This is a naval war, not a land war. So it's about if you can supply the troops and if you could successfully take a world. Your naval forces are what allow this, not your army. You have to clear the navy anyway to pave the way, and they partake in the invasion.
Naval wars, in general, are honestly pretty casualty light. For example, the Pacific War, when you pull out China, was only a few hundred thousand dead across 4 years of war. Why? Because little plots of land don't have your whole army. They're tiny garrisons meant to augment a naval force. The navies can only have so many soldiers on each ship.
The production game, however, becomes absolutely crucial. You have to have to be able to make new ships or else you can't fight at all.
How we never seen any Gernalist in starwars
One thing I never understood that the Rebels didn’t do was use Droids like the B1 in behind the scenes roles such as ship crewing, manufacturing etc. I know the Empire turned the masses against droids, but if you didn’t show them in the spotlight I feel the Rebels could’ve had way more manpower earlier on
I've always viewed B1 droids as piglets
Hey Alan could you do a video on how the cis would have faired against the empire in a conventional war with both factions at the height of their power.
Was the inflation in star wars or a banker class that was pulling the strings behind it all?
I felt he would say markiplier
Love from a Airier and Vaush fan!
Less than a chinese soldier
Are you in Hong Kong?
Is that San Francisco
You in Hong Kong, Alan?
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i've said this before, the B1 is a mass-producable human-level droid that is cheap af.
it's not supposed to be a super-droid, just a human crew replacer and it does that very well.
even better, b1 doesn't need food, or air, or sleep, only charging and few engineers to keep them running
Please make a video on 200 FO Stormtroopers vs 200 Clone Troopers
lol! Please make vid about Squad game's Western PMC faction?!
What does that have to do with star wars
A lot of why we think the bad guy weapons, ships, etc aren't good is because they always have to lose in the end. Plus we mainly see them fighting main characters who can't die of the movie/show doesn't happen. But in a vacuum many of these design choices had some logic to them.
Can barely hear you, turn down the dumb music
Hey Allen, do you wanna make a video about Aurebesh? 💭
I think its a pretty cool Story with it coming from RP source books and all.
And also from an in universe perspective:
Like how the language was prolly a big part of centralizing the power with the republic.
And how the higher classes used their own language to distinguish themselves.
Pretty sure u would make an amazing Video out of it!
Greetings from germany and thanks for ur neverending high quality work ✌