Cutlasses and Pirates

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  • @HebaruSan
    @HebaruSan 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I love how, where other channels would splice in clip art to illustrate different designs over time, Matt has a pile of swords on the table in front of him.

  • @fredo1070
    @fredo1070 7 ปีที่แล้ว +224

    Just checked, Pirates of the Caribbean get their swords correct. Exactly as you described.

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  7 ปีที่แล้ว +155

      The swords in Pirates of the Caribbean are not bad historically, for the most part, indeed.

    • @wierdalien1
      @wierdalien1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      scholagladiatoria well they do say you can break one rule of reality

    • @lancerd4934
      @lancerd4934 7 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Jack sparrow's sword was an actual antique from the 1740s (the non-stunt one, anyway).

    • @Acetylsalicylsaeure2
      @Acetylsalicylsaeure2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      For the first part, they actually did some research. Not saying its any historical accurate, but the writes wanted to get some details right. Such as the weaponry, general outfits and such. Later on all that went outta the window and ofcourse they took their artist's freedom also in the first. But generally im surprised how much the 1st got right in some details ^^

    • @nullunit
      @nullunit 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      That first film has great hero props. Norrington was a (noble)tit, but that small sword he gets from Turner is pretty damned cool looking. Not a fair trade for Keira, but I can understand why he made the trade :P

  • @camouflet
    @camouflet 7 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    I worry about Matt's right ear.

    • @southpawmoose
      @southpawmoose 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      camouflet hahaha "the weapons in the video are handled by professionals. Do not try this at home"

  • @KorKhan89
    @KorKhan89 7 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Apparently, regular machetes are still known as "cutlasses" in the Caribbean, so the word seems to have had a very broad application.

    • @levifontaine8186
      @levifontaine8186 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      When you search "cutlass fight", you'll find a lot of Caribbean and African machete fights for some reason.

    • @MrRourk
      @MrRourk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      KorKhan89 like broad swords

  • @coquimarinero7246
    @coquimarinero7246 7 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    I like swords. They are comfy and easy to wear

    • @matteussilvestre8583
      @matteussilvestre8583 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Coqui Marinero “Remember my super cool cutlass? My cutlass is different from regular cutlasses. It’s like my cutlass is in the top percentage of cutlasses."
      - Pirate Joey

    • @mattaffenit9898
      @mattaffenit9898 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Coqui Marinero
      I like broadseaxes. They are comfy and easy to wear, useful as tools, and devestating hand weapons.
      And I can have runes carved into them.
      And when we raid and sail to war, my seax shall bring me glory, and when I travel to Valhöll, I will bring it with me that the other Einherjar can bask in my tales of conquest and battle, and look upon my favored long knife, most trusted of companions.

    • @GnarledStaff
      @GnarledStaff 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Coqui Marinero
      I got the reference. Would have served him better.

  • @MrVvulf
    @MrVvulf 7 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    It should be pointed out that the Golden Age of Piracy was often a result of government sanctioned programs ending. Some captains and crews became rich through privateering, which is (mostly) legal, and when their Letters of Marque expired at the end of conflicts such as the War of Spanish Succession, continued to operate as both merchants, and pirates when convenient.
    The standing U.S. Navy was in fact brought into existence to deal with piracy. The Continental Navy had been disbanded at the end of the Revolutionary War, and the Naval Act of 1794 was signed into law primarily to deal with the Barbary Pirates (Algiers, Tripoli, Tunis, and the Sultanate of Morocco, all part of the Muslim Ottoman Empire). Although often not covered in history classes, over 1 million Europeans were captured and sold into slavery between the 16th and 19th century by the Barbary Pirates.

    • @martinbeagle6448
      @martinbeagle6448 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      MrVvulf I can't think of any where in the modern world where piracy flourishes that Islam doesn't also flourish.

    • @BigPuddin
      @BigPuddin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@martinbeagle6448 Well...pirates were also American colonials, British, French, Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, Burmese, et cetera. And piracy is still rampant in the South Sea thanks to Thai and Burmese pirates. Not just Somalia. It's almost as though being a criminal scumbag isn't necessarily facilitated by one's political/religious beliefs but by what one stands to personally gain by being the aforementioned scumbag.

    • @fuzzydunlop7928
      @fuzzydunlop7928 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@BigPuddin Aye, I know a bunch of fisherman in New Jersey who'd love to turn to piracy if they knew they could get away with it right about now. They've just done drug running instead. Damned economy.

    • @kevinmencer3782
      @kevinmencer3782 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fuzzydunlop7928 pirates didn't just raid ships and drink themselves into a stupor. They also did smuggling, blackmail, basically any criminal enterprise was fair game.

    • @sebastiaandewit159
      @sebastiaandewit159 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Were those barbary pirates also the barbary slave traders?

  • @Pdruvian
    @Pdruvian 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I find the Portuguese Carrack Black Sword (or Crab Sword) the most peculiar sword used on board of ships. It was "painted" black so it did not rust and did not shine on the sun and the guard had sharp disks that could be used to strike as well.

  • @glenndemoor3020
    @glenndemoor3020 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I like to point out that Black Sails shows plenty of hangers; the gallows in Nassau are used quite intensively throughout the series.

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Unfortunately many of the swords are from the end of the 18th century and a few are from the 19th century.

    • @glenndemoor3020
      @glenndemoor3020 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Damnit! My pun missed the mark *hangs head in shame*.

    • @p7outdoors297
      @p7outdoors297 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@glenndemoor3020 That was pretty funny

    • @tanuvazi
      @tanuvazi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@scholagladiatoria missed the gallows humor

  • @lancerd4934
    @lancerd4934 7 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    People forget piracy in India and Southeast Asia was also a huge problem during this period, and persisted long after piracy in the new world ceased to be a major issue. I'd like to see more pirates with Malaysian, Philippine, Indonesian, Indian, Burmese, Cambodian and Vietnamese weapons. These seem to account for the majority of reports of piracy I've read where the weapons used are described, with the kris apparently being an especially popular option.

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  7 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      19th century anti-piracy around Sarawak and suchlike is a subject dear to my heart :-)

    • @lancerd4934
      @lancerd4934 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      You should do a video then. Maybe we could get some nautical Malay for talk like a pirate day.

    • @fredo1070
      @fredo1070 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Watch Swiss Family Robinson with John Mills. Or Project A with Jackie Chan.

    • @Rasgonras
      @Rasgonras 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No to mention that many famous pirate captains were active in the indian ocean as well. Captain Kidd for example.

    • @AdobadoFantastico
      @AdobadoFantastico 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is a video topic I'd very much like to see.

  • @-Dal
    @-Dal 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You manage to make historical references sensical, comprehensible, entertaining and quite enjoyable and easy to process and absorb. Kudos.

  • @andybaxter4442
    @andybaxter4442 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The classic Disney Peter Pan cartoon seems pretty historically accurate then. Hook carries a cup-hilt rapier, and most of his crew is carrying falchions and scimitars.

    • @kwanarchive
      @kwanarchive 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeah, flying boys were serial pests back then.

    • @peterpan6027
      @peterpan6027 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is it really a cup hilt though ? Hook's Rapier has no knuckle guard are there any examples of Rapiers with no knuckle guards ?

    • @SrGundisalvus
      @SrGundisalvus 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Peter Pan i think some examples of roperas

    • @peterpan6027
      @peterpan6027 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What are Roperas? Isn't that just rapier in Spanish (pardon my ignorance)

    • @GnarledStaff
      @GnarledStaff 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      kwanarchive
      They were, Grimm wrote a whole book about it!

  • @markkelly6259
    @markkelly6259 7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Great video! Fascinating subject.
    Of course there were other pirates before and after the Pirates of the Caribbean era. While Somalis with AK47s is not really the sort of subject you cover, perhaps you could do a video on the subject of the weapons of the Barbary Pirates from Tripoli, Algiers and Salee. I believe that they were bold enough to raid England for slaves in the 16th and 17th century and even set up a camp on an island in the Severn Estuary to attack ships going to and from Bristol.
    There were also pirates in the Mediterranean that the Roman Empire suppressed and there was a book in the Flashman series that touched on a British raid against pirate bases somewhere near Singapore in the 1830s or 1840s.
    Anyway, lots more to be said about pirate weapons.

    • @mattaffenit9898
      @mattaffenit9898 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mark Kelly
      Weapons of the Víkingarnir - the best sea-warriors and raiders to have even had stories written about them by a 13th century poet?

    • @kenibnanak5554
      @kenibnanak5554 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not to mention accounts early in this decade of Chinese Naval vessels occasionally moonlighting with acts of piracy. Also off the coast of South America with some of those navies with captains tempted by some of what is out there owned by the various cartels.

  • @Jossnaz
    @Jossnaz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it's like a form of therapy watching these videos. Great voice. Very relaxing. Relaxes my mind before going back to work

  • @HAL-cb3xp
    @HAL-cb3xp 7 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I'm Japanese and near the end of the video I realized you're wearing a T shirt with Japanese characters.
    TOKYO CITY SUPER DRY™ COMPANY ... alright and... スボーン(スポーン=Spawn?)and 僭(or沓?)の星!
    SUPER is スーパー in Japanese, idk what スボーン means, and 僭の星 means Star of ... something? I'm not familiar with that Kanji.
    If you come to Japan, people often wear T shirt with English characters and sentences, and most of the time they doesn't make any sense - it's kinda hilarious. It's funny to know that same thing happens there too :)
    Please note that I don't mean to embarrass you or something, I just thought that it's a bit funny. Keep up the great work!

    • @dace48
      @dace48 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I have now learned two things from one video, apparently Super Dry is a British company using "Japanese inspired designs."

    • @YTho-ev1ej
      @YTho-ev1ej 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stussy sometimes has Japanese or at least the Asian style of writing that looks like Japanese on their t-shirts and a ton to people wear it in Australia and have no idea what any of it means.

    • @dickiewongtk
      @dickiewongtk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Superdry is a british company and it does this on purpose. If I remember correctly the founders went to japan and see japanese clothing company print english nonsense on their shirts, think it is funny and do it in reverse.

    • @BigPuddin
      @BigPuddin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dickiewongtk Reverse nonsense. Is it a parody? Or still nonsense?

    • @JuanDeSoCal
      @JuanDeSoCal 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BigPuddin Good question. When it's intentional it's not quite the same, is it?

  • @mattlentzner674
    @mattlentzner674 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Seems sensible to have symmetrical hand guards for a sword that will be issues first-come-first-serve from a rack. You don't have to worry about whether someone is right handed or left handed.

    • @southpawmoose
      @southpawmoose 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Matt Lentzner Right!, as you're being boarded and some Coxswain running around, "anyone else have a Right handed Cutlass?" "I need a a righty but they only have lefties on my part of the ship!"

    • @FreeMan-zb7xe
      @FreeMan-zb7xe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      most people were forced to be right handers

    • @urbnctrl
      @urbnctrl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In those days you had to learn right handed combat regardless of yer wanking hand.

  • @renaissanceman95
    @renaissanceman95 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'd always thought that hanger-type swords could be called cutlasses when used in a naval context. I've never really heard of a cutlass being defined as having a bowl hilt. But I appreciate you defining what a historical pirate sword would look like.

    • @BigWillyG1000
      @BigWillyG1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here. I think this might be an English thing on the bowl hilt as important. Neuamann (a late American weapons writer) in his book on bladed weapons of the American Revolution that starts with the 17th century treats a cutless as a cutless based on blade form and maritime usage not hilt style and treats hanger and cutless as often one in the same prior to c.1750 design wise with the difference being use on land or sea. In the US Navy the standard cutless from the 1840s to shortly before the Civil War had only a single knuckle bow and the older models saw use until at least 1865 even after the Model 1860 with a semi-bowl guard was officially adopted.

  • @stephenyoung8069
    @stephenyoung8069 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love having a channel that deals in such detail with history. I will never understand why you don't have more subscribers.

  • @levifontaine8186
    @levifontaine8186 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There were types of bowl hilt in the 18th century, although they were usually smaller, and many were brass.

  • @drtrekwars
    @drtrekwars 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Black Sails is set in Nassau in 1715. Glad it got a mention, I'm a massive fan of the show! :D

  • @StarlitSeafoam
    @StarlitSeafoam 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff; thanks for this. I was reading Roderick Random (published in 1748) and the author mentioned a hanger and I had to look it up to figure out what he meant. Nice to know the difference between it and its more well known descendent. Since I am very likely to write something set at sea in the mid 18th century (a period I find particularly fascinating and under represented in fiction), I am very glad to know cutlesses did not exist yet; you saved me from making my readers wonder how cutlesses came to learn time travel. :)

  • @Lyralium
    @Lyralium 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video! Something I've always been curious of, but hadn't gotten the chance to research.

  • @13bravoredleg18
    @13bravoredleg18 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    My grandfather Jacinto Lobrano came from Isola Di Procida off the coast of Italy in the 1700's. He was a pirate with Jean Lafitte in the Caribbean. His hanger sword is in a glass case at the Confederate museum in New Orleans, Louisiana.

  • @LionofCaliban
    @LionofCaliban 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't help but think of this particular line, quote from Admiral Arleigh Burke. More particularly when asked what he thought the ship class he shared a name with needed.
    Word for word, so I'm lead to believe, a brace of cutlasses.

  • @eejay3888
    @eejay3888 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pirates and a super dry shirt, you’ve won a subscriber. Totally cool,guy has fashion sense.

  • @danpit2001
    @danpit2001 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Matt, whenever you say" ill cover it in a future video" it makes my soul cry out in anguish because i know it will be forever until my curiosity will be sated because of all of the other things that you want to do videos on. alas i gues i will just have to keep watching every vid you put out

  • @finnmoog7187
    @finnmoog7187 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How I always look forward to the "However" :D greetings from Hamburg

  • @Klide-dorf
    @Klide-dorf 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Could you do a video about Pikeman's swords?

  • @DSlyde
    @DSlyde 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to see this remade with some images cut in to show whats being discussed.
    As a neophyte, some of the detail is flying straight over my head and some of the differences I do (partially) understand seem negligible but might not if I could see the differences.

  • @CitroChannel
    @CitroChannel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Late (and kind of long) question here, but you mention that most sailors in the British and French Navies during the Napoleonic Wars stored their cutlasses (and presumably other arms) on racks rather than on their person. This makes a lot of sense considering that the work aboard a sailing ship would be rather labor intensive, sailors would be packed closely together with a lot of other men and, depending on your specific job, could involve needing to do things such as climbing up the masts to adjust sails and such... in which case a sword of any kind dangling from your hip would be quite the hindrance, I imagine. That said, was it common at all for the Officers aboard, say, a Royal Navy ship during the Napoleonic Wars to carry their own side-arms? You did very quickly touch on Navy Officers sometimes carrying swords such as smallswords or spadroons instead of the common cutlass.
    I get that most of the sailors would be various levels of ordinary or able seaman that did much of the so-called hard grunt work such as helping with hull repairs, manning cannons, keeping the deck clean, adjusting the sails, tying knots and general seamanship while others would be Warrant Officers (or similar) that had more specific tasks such as carpenters, boatswains, sailing masters, gunners mate's, quartermasters, coopers, and so on and that these men likely didn't carry much more than perhaps a knife, marlinspike or other type of tool specific for their duties and would get their arms from racks when needed. However, did Lieutenants and Captain (or maybe even some Midshipmen?) often tend to bring and carry their own, higher-quality side arms, be they cutlasses, smallswords or pistols, and carry them on their person?
    It seems like it would make sense, to some degree, for some Officers to bring their own, better weapons if they could and, assuming their main duties were more leadership-focused such as standing watches, leading gun crews during battle, focusing on navigation and tactics et al. rather than doing quite as much physical work compared to their men, that they might even carry them on their person from time-to-time. Was this ever a common thing or did the Officers, much like their men, more often simply use whatever weapons the ship had in its weapons racks or have their own personal side arms, but still only arm themselves when battle was imminent?

    • @mikefule
      @mikefule 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Most swords and cutlasses ever made were never used in combat. On a ship armed with cannons, even less so. If a ship got into a fight, it would normally be by exchanging cannon fire. If a boarding action followed, then there would be musket fire, grapeshot, and then, as Matt says, boarding pikes and bayonets. With that in mind, the need to carry a cutlass all day every day was even less than for a man on land who might conceivably end up in a scuffle or skirmish at any time. A cutlass would be an unnecessary encumbrance when climbing the rigging. Also, naval discipline was harsh, with many sailors being "pressed men" (forcibly conscripted) and they were poorly educated and had little prospect of improving their circumstances. It would be foolish to let each man carry a weapon. There would be a risk of fights between crew members and a risk of mutiny. So common sailors would not carry weapons day to day. Officers probably did as a symbol of authority and a way of enforcing that authority if the need arose. A boarding action would not normally be a surprise. The racks would be in an easily accessible place if the weapons needed to be issued in a hurry.

    • @MB-st7be
      @MB-st7be 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Officers had to buy their own uniforms and side arms, at least until the very late 18th century when 'sea service' weapons started to be mass produced for the more fomalised Navy. Common sailors would not even have access to the ship's weapons under normal conditions. Pirates on the other hand...
      Incidentally there was a custom among pirates (at least English ones) that the first man to spot a prize ship would be awarded 'the best pair of pistols on board'.

    • @webtoedman
      @webtoedman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikefule Common sailors were not permitted to carry a knife other than the "Pussers dirk", a work knife with a ground off tip that could be bought from the ship's Purser at the sailor's own expense, should he consider that his work required it. (Rather like slop clothing before uniforms were regularised.)
      The dirk part of the name is an ironic reference to the dirk carried by Midshipmen, the officers in training.

  • @AsatruMetalhead
    @AsatruMetalhead 7 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    curved swords....
    they've got curved swords

    • @mattaffenit9898
      @mattaffenit9898 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kolgur
      Gods, man, stop yer blabberin! Drink yer mead and shut up about the Redguards' genitalia. Talos, who raised you? A cow and a goat? We don't talk about other men's genitals. It pisses off Hulda.
      Remember what happened last time that happened?

  • @ChaoticNarrative
    @ChaoticNarrative 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    In Black Sails I've seen a few different hilts, I noticed Flint has a basket hilt on his Cutlass, Singleton had a Hanger, Anne Bonny's twin short cutlasses have knucklebows.

  • @billregan1981
    @billregan1981 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good points Matt! We must remember that much of what we think about Caribbean/European pirates is based on Robert Louis Stevenson's Treasure Island which was written in the late 19th century and the focus of the events was some 30 years after the golden age of piracy in the Caribbean. The map in the book is dated 1750.

  • @karlkruger7310
    @karlkruger7310 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recently watched a movie about Cromwell & his Round Heads, they started out carrying cup hilt rapiers, then at the last battle ,every one on both sides were using naval cutlasses. Oliver Reed of course died with style.

  • @DoktorWeasel
    @DoktorWeasel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Black Sails does have some interesting weapon choices, some good some not. I'm not as knowledgeable about the weapons of the period so I'm sure I miss a lot. I've seen a few smallwords/spadroons, and various basket hilts in the mix. Blackbeard uses a Scottish basket-hilt I believe.
    I think the guns may tend to be more anachronistic than the sword. It just doesn't seem like there are nearly as many reproduction guns of the late 16th early 17th century as late 17th and 18th century, including in prop-houses.

  • @TheSeekingOne
    @TheSeekingOne 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    It really feels like the image of pirates carrying cutlasses is about the same as the image of Vikings wearing helmets with horns on them. Both largely false, and yet both are so deeply ingrained into people's minds by modern popular culture that they really can't be erased from there.

    • @CottonPanzer
      @CottonPanzer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      TheSeekingOne except vikings did use horned helmets outside of battle, that is ceremonial and rank helmets.

    • @Blokewood3
      @Blokewood3 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I don't think I'd go as far as to say it's largely false. The golden age pirates did use cutlasses, but a different style of cutlass than we're used to. It's still a mistake, but a fairly minor one for movies.

    • @CottonPanzer
      @CottonPanzer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Blokewood3 the problem is also that most "weapon classifications" are contemporary classifications, spawned by the likes of DnD and fantasy RP.
      Back then, weapon names weren't as set.

    • @DoktorWeasel
      @DoktorWeasel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, the names aren't quite set. The term cutlass did seem to originally refer to the earlier hangers, but then mostly became used for the beefier naval-specialized cutlasses that we normally think of. And apparently today it's used as a term for a machete in parts of the Caribbean.

  • @atomicdynamo6062
    @atomicdynamo6062 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always enjoy your videos. Nicely presented and good information

  • @dadegroot
    @dadegroot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've seen several period examples (particularly dutch) with S quillions and a shell guard too.

  • @teucer915
    @teucer915 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would be interested in hearing more about the British cutlass exercises mentioned in passing as relevant to the hilt differences.

  • @sheep1ewe
    @sheep1ewe 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to see You are showing the actual lenght too, swords in movies and computergames are often pictured ridiculos short bladed (or with an unrealistic hevy blade, but in movies when a real human actor hawe to use it and it´s not possible to swing that much weight, even if it´s light alloys like aluminium in the prop swords, the blade are often way to short instead... Especiially sabres like those are wictims of that and looks extremly ridiculous with those short prop blades... Unfortunatly that is waht so many Smiths try to reconstruct... ).
    (Sorry for my English...)

  • @bijad3854
    @bijad3854 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    i know this has nothing to do with the video, but when did Arabs star using curved swords ? and what's the difference between an Arab Saber and a Persian Saber (if you have pictures that would be even more helpful)
    please answer !

    • @lodos1330
      @lodos1330 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if you're talking about fighting styles, i dont know, but if you're talking about the blades persian sabres tend to be more curved, and sometimes have a pommel at the end. arab swords may have that too but much rarer.
      the arabs started using curved swords largely when the turks came (11th century) , the turks were cavalry warriors and were already using curved swords, and they influenced the whole area.

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Short answer - I believe around the 13th century in general, though it's a very big topic and Arabic culture covered a large and diverse area of course, not all of which used similar weapons.

    • @lodos1330
      @lodos1330 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      they had curved swords much earlier than 11th or 13th century, muhammed himself has some curved swords. though i remember reading they started using it as "the sword" because of turkish influence, do you remember the name of the source that says 13th century ?

    • @Tareltonlives
      @Tareltonlives 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      12th century Turks brought their sabers to the Middle East and their fighting style eventually took over, although straight swords took a while to dissapear and still were used in Africa.

    • @lancerd4934
      @lancerd4934 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They seem to have appeared in the middle east around the 12th century. Not sure what you mean by "Arab" vs Persian, but I'll give a go at some different types.
      Shamshir: Persian, highly curved, straight crossguard. Wooden, ivory or horn grip is pinned to tang and has a swelling at the base that projects forwards.
      Killij: Turkish and Egyptian. As for Shamshir, but also has a yelmen, or false edge that projects away from the back of the blade.
      Nimcha: Moroccan, slightly curved, multiple short, highly upswept quillons, most have knucklebows. Grip is more angular, but similar in overall shape to the killij and shamshir
      Pulwar: Afghan, highly curved. Upswept grossguard with flower shaped finials. Hilt is all-metal and glued to the blade, occasionally having a single pin. Short grip is straight with a small palm swell and a cup-shaped pommel.
      Tulwar: Indian, as for pulwar, but with short, generally straight crossguard with flared ends and a disc shaped pommel. Later ones can sport knucklebows. Curvature varies.
      These swords are all related as they were introduced by the conquests of Persian and Turkic cultures through North Africa and South Asia following the breakup of the Mongol empire, especially the by Mamluks and the Timurids.

  • @roberttauzer7042
    @roberttauzer7042 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What I would give that every time Matt mentions sword type, picture shows on screen of mentioned weapon!

  • @draven86
    @draven86 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cornelis Tromp carried several types of middle eastern/North African swords like the Persian Shamshir and the North African Nimcha. his swords are currently in display at the rijksmuseum in Amsterdam

  • @BlueNeonBeasty
    @BlueNeonBeasty 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gorgeous hanger! Looking forward to the video about that sword when you do it :)

  • @peterlynch1458
    @peterlynch1458 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi Matt! Have you seen "Alatriste" with Viggo Mortensen? It would be really cool if you could talk about the duels and weapons in that movie.

  • @donaldhill3823
    @donaldhill3823 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Typical practice in most navies was to lock up bladed and hand held gun powered weapons. To minimize mutinies. I think boarding pikes/axes are actually general tools used on the ship which are ready for use.

  • @rockdante5559
    @rockdante5559 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for all these videos, this is really instructing and I was desperately searching for informations like that ! good work !

  • @Ofotherworlds
    @Ofotherworlds 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Blackbeard was killed in 1718 by a basket hilt broadsword. The privateer squadron tasked with hunting him down included a highlander called Demelt, who apparently preferred a massive broadsword to the lighter hanger that was more common aboard ship. This was a very good thing, because Blackbeard actually broke the lighter sword used by Lt. Maynard, at which point the Scot stepped in and saved his commander by severing Blackbeard's head.

    • @nielsunnerup7099
      @nielsunnerup7099 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That series of events sounds like someone at some point made something up.

    • @georgebennett8114
      @georgebennett8114 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah I seriously doubt Blackbeard broke the other dudes sword.

    • @thelonerider5644
      @thelonerider5644 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      For those saying these stories sound made up... if they were, they were probably made up back in the 18th century. I've vacationed in North Carolina including Atlantic beach, off which his ship Queen anne's revenge was sunk and done some reading on the subject. The general consensus is that he succumbed after many wounds, either pistol shot or sword, and it was indeed a rough and brutal fight. Given the stories are all so similar, I cannot help but think there is truth there.

  • @wiskadjak
    @wiskadjak 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any bucklers for hand protection?

  • @garychurch1632
    @garychurch1632 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really excellent video this time- thanks so much. Fascinating stuff. Hollywood should come to you anytime they want to do some kind of historical show because.....what is out there is such garbage. Movies like pirates of the carib are very disappointing to people who like militaria or the finer details.

  • @dace48
    @dace48 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ahh Matt, first you take away my boarding axes, then my cutlasses. At least I still have the backsword. About time I subbed.

  • @AndrewB_M.D.
    @AndrewB_M.D. 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been waiting for this for a while. Thanks very much.

  • @mattig89ch
    @mattig89ch 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol, that notification sound actually made me check my IM messages and phone.

  • @TheFazer1992
    @TheFazer1992 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see a review of the opening fight scene in First knight, and well maybe even the finale fight. Loved that film as a kid and I would love to hear about things I miss when I watch the fights.

  • @stuffguru
    @stuffguru 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope i just missed it and can be directed but you mention a follow up on the ivory handled hanger. If you still have it, i'd love to see a video on it and hangers in general. Cheers!

  • @Oberstgreup
    @Oberstgreup 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As I understand it the main use for boarding axes was cutting away rigging (including the wood bits it was attached to), either to immobilize the ship being boarded, to clear a path for easier boarding, or by a ship that didn't want to be boarded to cut away grapples and entangled rigging.

    • @TheWampam
      @TheWampam 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You forget the most cinematic: Cutting away the ropes that connect you to a burning ship before it explodes.

    • @wilfdarr
      @wilfdarr 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oberstgreup I am highly skeptical they carried dedicated boarding axes: they would have had a carpentry kit on board the same as you carry a spare tire in your car. And if you didn't want to be grappled you would grab anything sharp to cut away the ropes, an axe simply being better suited in that situation.

  • @Blokewood3
    @Blokewood3 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Illustrations from the book "The Buccaneers of America" published in 1678, show the pirates Roche Braziliano and Francois L'ollonais with cutlasses that have a hand guard shaped like a clamshell.

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes clamshell guards were quite popular in the second half of the 17th century.

  • @alberich3099
    @alberich3099 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    funny the cutless seems to be quite similar to the German "Korbschläger" used in stutends fighting called Mensur.
    Similar to the cutless the Schläger will be held downwards with the "korb" or the handguard faceinc upwards, however a pary will be tried on the blades face.

  • @btrenninger1
    @btrenninger1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's gratifying that Howard Pyle, the artist who pretty much created the modern conception of pirate's looks, pretty much got it right.
    upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Pyle_pirates_deckfight_edited.jpg

  • @StutleyConstable
    @StutleyConstable 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. I wish I had found this video sooner. Now I have to go back and edit my novel AGAIN! "Once more into the breach..." Damnit.

  • @devingendron2287
    @devingendron2287 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Out of curiosity, and you may have done a video on this before, but of the swords (and other weapons) in your collection, which is your favorite? Just out of curiosity, which do you find most fun for cutting, which do you like the aesthetics of best, that kind of thing.

  • @Jonahch2v9
    @Jonahch2v9 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sketches of Anne Bonny tend to show her with boarding axes. They're not only a good close quarter weapon, they can easily be thrown.

  • @garychurch1632
    @garychurch1632 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    From perhaps 1525 when wheelock pistols came into use to after 1700 when the socket bayonet finally replaced the pike would seem to have been the last gasp of close quarters battle with hand weapons. I would like to hear your views on the 200 years (1500-1700) of transition between the age of close combat and the full control of the battlefield by gunpowder. What is interesting to me is how the cavalry survived during this time and beyond. For scouting and lancing fleeing soldiers running away is all they would seem to be good for. Horses are such huge targets why did cavalry continue?

  • @L.J.Kommer
    @L.J.Kommer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If I was an pirate back in those days, I'd totally carry a katana. Not because I think they're the sword to end all sword, but I want to have people stop and ask "what the fuck is that?"

  • @janbunz6421
    @janbunz6421 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you for making this video! i hoped you would pick up on black sails after my question last week =)

  • @gollypo448
    @gollypo448 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The boarding axes were carried as much for their utility against the ship, rather than the crew, from what I've read. In cutting out operations (stealing a ship) mooring warps would be cut (hence the cutting in cutting out), and a cutlass would take far too long to get through a 6 inch cable, whereas an axe is much quicker. It could also be used to cut the halyards to lower the yards when sail needed to be set, or to bring down rigging to stop a ship in motion. In extremis, obviously, the axeman would use it to wallop the opposing crewmen and marines.

  • @paleposter
    @paleposter 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the way the hanger guard looks

  • @Matt_The_Hugenot
    @Matt_The_Hugenot 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd like to see a video on Sri Lankan swords sometime.

  • @gamingbros6650
    @gamingbros6650 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about the knives and daggers pirates used

  • @althesmith
    @althesmith 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the fact that in a duel, they show Blackbeard fighting with a Highland pattern broadsword, which was quite available at the time period.

  • @robertpatter5509
    @robertpatter5509 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should Captain Hook in Peter Pan( not the 1991 Hook movie) be using a 17C Spanish Rapier? Was the Spanish Rapier popular with pirates?

  • @ktoth29
    @ktoth29 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Commercial was timed perfectly.. "what you should see is...(insert commercial here)"

  • @foxtrotzer0847
    @foxtrotzer0847 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Matt, could you do a Fight Review of Flint vs Singleton from STARZ Black Sails?

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have filmed one, but it's stuck in a copyright dispute.... STARZ seem to be very inefficient at reviewing such automated claims.

    • @foxtrotzer0847
      @foxtrotzer0847 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah, that sucks. Well, here's hoping the claim is settled soon and we get to enjoy the video!

  • @MrPotatoesLatkie
    @MrPotatoesLatkie 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see more on the British 1845 Naval Cutless. They seem to be very rare here in the US. I wish someone would make a quality replica. Same with the French 1833 style. How do both cutlasses handle?

  • @ericsjewett
    @ericsjewett 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many accounts I've read from the Napoleonic wars generally refer to the use of boarding axes by "Landsmen" (ie raw recruits or pressed men) who would have little experience with any type of sword and chose a "boarding axe", which was just a typical axe used on board ship, which the landsmen was likely familiar and comfortable with. In almost all cases, however - when a boarding action took place the crews would be almost entirely equipped with swords or pikes, both being readily available and more useful than an axe.

  • @GameNubQuin
    @GameNubQuin 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sri lankan kastane sword was not an easy sword to find the spelling of, I gotta admit. Also this video was really informative, I never really thought this in depth about pirate swords before.

  • @shotforshot5983
    @shotforshot5983 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm going to have to view a lot more of this channel, but of course there were weapons of conquest and opportunity, ease of use or familiarity. I'm really wondering about blade thickness, weight, balance and feel.

  • @krishewett1614
    @krishewett1614 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to have your thoughts on the fight between Obi Wan and Maul in rebels. I've always held that it is the most realistic fight in the entirety of the star wars canon, mostly on the basis that when masters of weapons like this meet, it would be a very quick, one-mistake-and-its-over affair.

  • @Manzanita205
    @Manzanita205 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks again for another great video!
    (also, nice shirt! haha really dig it.)

  • @barrettus
    @barrettus 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    My mind wandered to the taking of the Altmark the last (conflicting reports) RN boarding action with a cutlass.

  • @MrJpc1234
    @MrJpc1234 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey mat im not sure if you have much knowledge in the area but could you do a video on mongolian weapons and tactics,...i feel that the topic doesnt get covered as a whole often comsidering there success particularily when people say oh they were good because they had horse archers as if that were the only reason they conquered so much

    • @StudyofSwords
      @StudyofSwords 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      MrJpc1234 If you are looking for a relatively short read that tangentially examines the broad impact of Mongol warfare in China, I'd suggest " Firearms to 1700: a global history".

  • @haveswordwilltravel
    @haveswordwilltravel 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. Now you have to show us some dusacks.

  • @deantaefields5911
    @deantaefields5911 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone have some source material on the swords pirates used during the early 18th century I'd appreciate it

  • @BigWillyG1000
    @BigWillyG1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think bowl guards as a major feature might be a unique British Isles linguistic thing. Here in the US cutlasses are defined more by size and maritime usage. Any plain short sword used at sea is a cutless. George G. Neumann in his main books on weapons of the American Revolution shows multiple examples of cutlasses with all sorts of hilt styles and treats hangers and cutlasses as basically the same thing c.1710 or so with difference being where it was used rather than physical features. Also the US Navy M1841 Cutless has only a knuckle bow.

  • @nicktruscott6021
    @nicktruscott6021 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i really like that hanger

  • @MushVPeets
    @MushVPeets 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the looks of that hanger sword thing. Kind of evil-looking.

  • @MrEdium
    @MrEdium 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Royal Navy "1804" Pattern Boarding Cutlass looks like that Lead Cutter that you have.

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 1845 pattern is the basis for the lead cutter.

  • @kristokirov
    @kristokirov 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, those hangers are what people want. Really nasty fun blades those.

  • @Magnalenian
    @Magnalenian 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Insta-liked this video as soon as I saw it suggested :D

  • @tobiasaberg8659
    @tobiasaberg8659 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The swedish navy used axes extensively during the 18the century, collectively known as "änterbilor" (boarding axes). The one you find most commonly on auctions is the Änterbila mod 1780, a sturdily built axe with a hooked spike on the back.
    The only naval sword that I've seen has been the m/1748 hanger sword (huggare) for officers.

  • @MrMonkeybat
    @MrMonkeybat 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:10 When I do an image search for pirates or cutlass I actually mostly see swords with simple knuckle bows and other earlier basket hilts. So maybe they are wrong to call them cutlasses I don't know when that term came into use but most cartoon pirates seem to have period hilts with knuckle bows or cross guards.

  • @RedmarKerkhof
    @RedmarKerkhof 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a shortened talwar (replica) for my pirate costume.

  • @HoJu1989
    @HoJu1989 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are your thoughts on cup-hilt rapiers and the Spanish Destreza? I just started practicing it and am curious as to what's the view on it from other countries and other traditions.

  • @billybudd45
    @billybudd45 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes bro you see little mistakes in movies all the time, was a carpenter on There will be blood Had to drive nails with hammer instead of nail gun and no Philips hed screws. Very informative love the Cutlass​

  • @dominicletourneau8940
    @dominicletourneau8940 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a video on arms and armor of the latter half of the 19th century leading into the 20th century?

  • @Feldscher1039
    @Feldscher1039 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    QUESTION: There is a video of Matt speaking about the peculiarity of german fencing schools not focusing on stabbing opponents as much as contemporary fencing schools do. I can't find the video (and I have binge-watched enough by now to hear Matts voice in my head when I read something). Anyone remember which video it was?

  • @enrif3099
    @enrif3099 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The german word for the typical Piratsword is Entermesser. And was mostlikly a version of the Langes Messer or Grosses Messer, which easily could have evolved into the sword, the english call cutlass. Though you might think of Pirates only in the caribbeans there was a healthy piracy scene in the hanseatic sea in the 14th and 15th century, with the legendary german pirat captain Störtebeker

  • @Alduin101
    @Alduin101 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to hear your view on the 80's year war.

  • @KunTaoRuiDian
    @KunTaoRuiDian 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Recommend a tutorial on cutlass, thank you in advance.

  • @waltermachnicz5490
    @waltermachnicz5490 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In medieval times thru 1700? There were pirates in the English Channel. Using rowboats? Weapons seem likely to be th SS cheaper ones available?

  • @Rafferty1968
    @Rafferty1968 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    They were kept in racks because manning a sailing ship is quite a task. You would not want to be carrying a sword whilst working in the rigging, sails etc, but you would want quick access to one when a prize came into view lol