Ladies and gentlemen, If you're in a relationship with someone who is filled with so much anger, hate, and spite, that all they do is think of their ex, and ways to harm them, and they have full intentions of doing so, then you need to get out. If their ex is taking that much space in their mind, then there's not enough room for you. And if they're willing to harm their ex, what makes you think you're so special? Be with someone who's heart is filled with love, and happiness for you, or don't be with them at all. Trust me, you can do better!
Your advice is good advice! Unfortunately Patrick didn’t let on that he was angry & he never abused her. There’s no way she (baby mamma)would have thot it could happen. It’s very sad.
Oh dang, that sucks. I've always loved angry women. I started having second thoughts after my girlfriend strangled my dog and skinned my cat alive, shouting about how much she hated Stephen, her ex-boyfriend. I thought she was just going through a phase.
@astrialindah2773, you are right! My comment was referring to his baby mamma- he was never angry or let on that he was violent so she never saw it coming. I was responding to the original post regarding men’s bad behaviors. Your advice still applies tho.
It feels disgraceful that Krystal wasn’t put in prison forever. However, deals like this one happen all the time. Prosecutors are always most concerned w/ getting the main culprit in a crime. They wanted Kelsey’s killer & were willing to, as they said, make a deal with the devil.
I looked Krystal up. She only served 14 months and was released early. One article even said she still had her nursing license!!!!! I’m a nurse, can you imagine having your loved one being cared for by this monster.Why can’t people just walk away? They weren’t even married yet
Per the Idaho nursing license authority...Krystal's nursing license is currently suspended due to "criminal conviction" ... you can look up Krystal Lee
Can’t have a felony and have a nursing license while paying for her crimes. Not sure about after she pays her dues to society….idk. She may get a re-instatement.
I'm in tears with Jessica's story. I'm still healing at 68 from a traumatic childhood different circumstances from yours but still painful... God was watching over me the whole time and I know without Jesus in my life, I would not have made it, or stayed sane. I wish you peace and joy in your life. You're blessed with your own family, how fortunate you are for that! God bless you abundantly!
As of today, January 4, 2025, Jeff Pelley has been in the Indiana State Prison since October 2006 and has been denied a new trial 4 times. Since he was sentenced to 160 years, he'll never get out.
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Murdered in 1989 were Pelley’s father, the Rev. Bob Pelley; Dawn Pelly (stepmother), Janel, 8, and Jolene Pelly, 6 (stepsisters). Surviving were Jessie, 9, Pelley’s stepsister who was at a sleepover that night, and Jacque, 14, Pelley’s biological sister who was visiting a friend, according to other media outlets.
In Franks case, the police are to blame 1000%. If they had done their jobs Frank would be here raising his kids. I have to deal with these same small town police where my mother lives. I have called them numerous times because my sister is abusing my elderly mother. My sister is friends with the chief of police. My sister is dangerous. Last time I called them she had committed a felony offense. I had the proof. They told her that she was upset so she should call her girlfriends and meet them for lunch to calm down. Hand to God that is what they did. You may be seeing my mother’s and my story on here someday. I hope not but it is possible. She will get away with it too. She has been arrested 17 times with no convictions. Nobody is that lucky if you know what I mean.
@ the state police were there and wanted to arrest her but the locals talked them out of it. Called adult protective services still waiting for a call back. This was 4 months ago. Last time ADPS was supposed to come out they sent child protective services because nobody from ADPS was available. It is a freaking nightmare in this town. Tried to contact attorney general got nothing.
This along with the fire being undetermined. Total crap. Just like the evidence being found in the found like the car jack. The good ol boy network. Odd how it took an insurance company to force the investigation to actuality done. And wow they found evidence of accelerant. Wonder what have been found in the other fire if they had looked???
Poor Jessie went through so much losing her family and then finding out her step=brother killed them. I am so glad her best friend finally found her and they were able to reconnect. I cried when she tried to take her life. I hope she is getting the help she needs and will be able to get through the terrible trauma that has plagued her all these years. Never give up Jessie. Life is worth living. God Bless you.
Krystle Lee shouldn't have gotten such a sweet plea deal. She should be sitting in prison for an absolute minimum of 20-25 years. This case is an absolute travesty. And NO WAY should that woman be free. 😤🤬
The fact that the prosecutor said that they wouldn’t do anything different is disgraceful. That means they have no self reflection of their policies and should all be fired!
They did NOTHING, are accustomed to doing NOTHING and will continue to do NOTHING . Lazy corrupt inept small town people who got into power by owing favors .
Not even 1 hour ago I just took a hard fall off my bike, I'm bleeding, and everything hurts. I didn't think I'd have a "I'm grateful for" moment so soon, but I'm grateful to not be featured in these episodes.
Good thing I watched this Marathon, because the third episode was brand new to me. Please, upload more of this "Live To Tell" Series! About the Third Case: Jessi is a survivor and a warrior! I'm glad she has a beautiful family now. May God Bless them!
Why on earth is this Crystal woman wearing a police jacket and a police cap? She had so many possibilities to call the police, so many miles she drove while she could have changed her mind.... Disgusting. Hope she will be haunted every minute by the thought she did not do anything to avoid the killing. Cleaning afterwards... What kind of nurse is this?
My guess is that they didn't want anyone outside the investigation to know that they had brought her in and were trying to make her blend in with the other officers so the suspect wasn't aware she was there
That's right, I can't even watch this because I hate her and that pathetic DA so much, it raises my blood pressure. I followed this case from the beginning till the end of the trials back then.
This is terrifying. So if those like us who are into true crime never find these awful stories, they/we won’t ever even know of local crimes like this? Neat.
Krystal only served 14 months & still has her nursing license. How is the latter possible? A felony conviction for a violent crime should disqualify her from ever practicing as a nurse again. I don’t understand how she still has her license.
Krystle should not be walking free. What a sick individual. To be able to clean up someone’s dirty work and just be ok with it is deeply disturbing. I will never understand these women that help out a murderer and do not seem even stop and think, hmmmmm if he was capable of that what isn’t he? Krystal saw that horrific scene and cleaned it up. wtf?
In a perfect world and, were it up to me, Krystal would have never again seen the light of day. Much more importantly, though, she still has to stand before our just and protective God.
What baffles me is why the prosecution didn’t buy Krystal a home or a new car? I mean her only serving 14mos & keeping her nursing license is just as over the top redic as the Prosecution buying her a hse or car.
Frank Spencer story... I would never live in that district with that judge (former District Attorney) and his successor, nor with the Hemlock Township police department. The ball was dropped entirely in that situation by them. Sure, the police could have made the arrest, but typically, when there's a question, they consult the district attorney for guidance as to make an arrest. They were busy pointing fingers at each other for the failure. They failed. I could not trust them if something similar was going on.
50 bucks says they are all related 🙄or a part of the “ good old boys “ club . Every single one of them stood by and watched this man get murdered, they let him down in life and death .
Why shouldn't they be with that aunt? We don't know the reasons why they are with her...perhaps frank has no siblings, or close family, etc. We also don't know anything about her, she may be completely distant from her father and sister, she may be an amazing person - calm, kind, settled, and best-placed to raise them without bias. One would hope she keeps the children in healthy contact with both sides of their families. And that they grow into healthy, contented adults in her care. ❤
@@sarahbarton4100 that’s a lot of “ maybes 😒” one more maybe is that she makes Maria the victim and frank the devil who is the reason their saintly mother is in jail . Maria is a pos so is her father , I find it hard to believe it skipped a generation 🙄
A whole mess of Stupid Wicked Amoral people with no common sense or decency. Murdering a young mother over jealousy & control , those two ought to have been given the same sentence because Krystal was every bit as involved as he was.
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The last episode showcases how powerful friendship is. Society heralds romantic love as the ultimate goal, but the bond between Jessi and Stephanie was a life-saving, life-changing friendship. What a beautiful thing. I wish them both decades of happiness.
I agree with you on the beauty of their friendship, but few societies still herald romantic love as the ultimate goal. I guess you're referring to US society.
@ point out in the U.S. constitution where trials are to be televised. How much school did you flunk? You are what’s wrong with America: lack of education
Re 1st story, Patrick/Kelsey: not one word about his family? Parents? Siblings? What was his defense? What was Crystal Lee's view of Kelsey? What did Patrick tell her about Kelsey? A crazy ex? What happened to his ranch? His animals? Come on 48 Hours!
Can't do anything but sit with our thumbs up our butt's until you're murdered. Then they run around patting themselves on the back for the "good job" they all did! Ridiculous!
JessiCa's story is a powerful story. She seems to be a great wife and mother. I am so pleased her friend and cousin found her. Thank goodness she survived the suicide attempt. She still had a lot to give and live for. Wishing her , her family and friends every happiness
How could any man be in love or even lust with a woman like that Maria? Why did he sleep with her while her father torched his house? I don't understand. 😵💫
It feels disgraceful that Krystal wasn’t put in prison forever. However, deals like this one happen all the time. Prosecutors are always most concerned w/ getting the main culprit in a crime. They wanted Kelsey’s killer & were willing to, as they said, make a deal with the devil.
How sad! Someone needs to fix Frank's house up, have a priest bless it and live in it to show Frank's memory that the proper family can still love and have a good life in his beautiful house. RIP Frank. I'm so very sorry that this happened to you. God bless your memory!
Jeff’s attorney saying he couldn’t have killed his parents and got rid of the gun and attend the prom doesn’t hold up . All three were shot , that didn’t take time , he threw the weapon in his trunk and went to the prom . He had more than 24 hrs after to dispose of the gun , he went to a game next day with his girlfriend, he had more than enough time before the bodies were dis covered and the next day to get rid of the weapon.
That's crazy maria sister get the kids. Not only did everyone lose frank they lost there grandkids too. They will be forced to love the parent that killed there father.
So, is this Krystal woman still a nurse? Please tell me the board of nursing in whichever state she’s registered in has yanked her license to practice . This is clearly a conflict of interest for anyone who provides patient care . Appalling. .
She was released after only serving 14 months as in 2021, her sentence was reduced, & from everything that I had been able to find, she has her nursing license still. Absolutely horrifying & that should not be possible.
In this atmosphere of victim mentality and denial of personal responsibility, Jesse is a stand-out for her amazing strength. I'm sure she's been a source of inspiration for many.
Justice for Kelsey: I worked in Woodland Park, Colorado, when I was in high school (and we had a family reunion there last year). My mother lived in Gooding, Idaho, at the end of her life, so this story caught my attention! I wonder if my mother ever encountered that nurse?
The police took the statements about the threats against him. Then, did nothing because Frank didn't want to pursue the charges. What a crock, if it were a man making the same threats, he'd been arrested and behind bars. This is so typical of the absolute bias police, prosecutors, and the public have when it comes to men receiving threats or being abused.
I lost my mom at 17, dad at 18, a brother in 85, a brother in 2010 and recently a sister. Don’t ever tell someone you understand or could put yourself in their shoes, that’s wrong and out of line. You don’t understand unless you been through it yourself. I hate when ppl say that, that’s a reason I can’t speak ro a therapist
Just wanted you to know - I lost my mom in 1995 when I was 15, my dad in 2006, I have little to no actual family. I have never been the same since that day in 1995, nothing really matters once you experience this level of loss Only after having my daughter did I learn to feel joy again especially holidays or simple everyday events that make ones absence glaringly and painfully evident. I cry for and with you. 🙏🏻❤️
Dam you been through alot and I would think you are a strong and awesome person that I could get along with, my mom left when I was a kid and my dad dragged us through two step moms and we were taken from him and put in orphanage at 14 yrs old, so much has happened in my life as well so I do understand pain and sorrow on a different level than most😊✌️
@@maiziebugI understand for sure my life has been a rough journey as well and I’m glad to hear that you have made through and are moving forward in life😊
Ive never had a therapist say that to me. I wonder if you could be open to an idea: what if. What if learning tools to heal could be unconditional? What if someone could show you new skills and not empathize with your exact situation? What if- you deserve to be heard even though the person listening will never truly understand what it was like for you? You deserve to have your chance to create the life you want
Look I've been watching a lot of these episodes and it's always a inmate who comes up wit some BS about the killer telling him what he did with the body or bragging about what he did,?? to a Ngga he just now met in jail,??
Actually, you hear about that repeatedly because it happens all the time. Those who end up in jail are often willing to turn on someone else in a minute if they can help them in any way. That doesn’t mean that they made it up and the police do much further investigation when a jail house snitch comes forward as sometimes there isn’t truth to it. When people are incarcerated, they can do a lot of things that you may not imagine they would do, including running their mouth to a cell mate. Many criminals aren’t the sharpest tool in the shed.
Woodland Park Police Chief - “As a reminder, Patrick Frazee is innocent until proven guilty. Just ignore the green and white stripped prison jump suit.”
Frank situation: I never thought I’d see this but he was extremely failed for a heterosexual yt male who did everything right to report his harassment. The mob ties are seeming more valid because I don’t understand
I can understand that the prosecutors didn't have enough to bring Patrick to Justice and they had to make a deal with Crystal. But the deal that Krystal card was so unfair. She could have stopped this she could have prevented this from happening yet she decided to help this evil man because she's just evil like him. Showings for 14 months for her part in this and to me that is crazy. Kelsey didn't what happened to her ... Crystal did what she did cause she is just as evil as Patrick there is no other reason ... I feel so bad for Kelsy's family , friends but specially for her young daughter.
Rocco Franklin and Maria Spencer either threatened or coerced those fire inspectors into their false determinations of what is obviously arson. And for an insurance claims adjuster to get it right before an ARSON INSPECTOR shows either gross incompetence or deliberate neglect. They both should be in jail as well.
Krystal should have been jailed 25 years - total psychopath just like her boyfriend. What a crooked jury….14 months yuck. Maria and Rocco - surprised Pennsylvania got it right. However karma did have its way with them 2 horrible people. Rot in jail - perfect. RIP for all victims including the poor dog, that passed in the fire. Awful 😢.
She was given a longer sentence but in 2021 her sentence was reduced by a higher court for some reason. She also still has her nursing license from what I’ve read & that’s horrifying.
When people are going to learn that you never ever know anybody, never. She is a cold bloody killer like him, I cannot understand those "legal" kind of deals
Ladies and gentlemen,
If you're in a relationship with someone who is filled with so much anger, hate, and spite, that all they do is think of their ex, and ways to harm them, and they have full intentions of doing so, then you need to get out.
If their ex is taking that much space in their mind, then there's not enough room for you. And if they're willing to harm their ex, what makes you think you're so special?
Be with someone who's heart is filled with love, and happiness for you, or don't be with them at all. Trust me, you can do better!
Your advice is good advice!
Unfortunately Patrick didn’t let on that he was angry & he never abused her. There’s no way she (baby mamma)would have thot it could happen. It’s very sad.
Sunny Dee 100%
Oh dang, that sucks. I've always loved angry women. I started having second thoughts after my girlfriend strangled my dog and skinned my cat alive, shouting about how much she hated Stephen, her ex-boyfriend. I thought she was just going through a phase.
Barbee... He had personally asked his girlfriend to poison his wife.... So she knew full well the anger that he had inside of him towards Kelsey...
@astrialindah2773, you are right! My comment was referring to his baby mamma- he was never angry or let on that he was violent so she never saw it coming. I was responding to the original post regarding men’s bad behaviors. Your advice still applies tho.
Crystal should have got a minimum of ten years.
He will dream of his farm every day and regret his evil actions.
I agree completely
Happens way too often. In exchange for witness testimony these bloodless harpies continue to breathe free air.
It feels disgraceful that Krystal wasn’t put in prison forever. However, deals like this one happen all the time. Prosecutors are always most concerned w/ getting the main culprit in a crime. They wanted Kelsey’s killer & were willing to, as they said, make a deal with the devil.
20 years
I looked Krystal up. She only served 14 months and was released early. One article even said she still had her nursing license!!!!! I’m a nurse, can you imagine having your loved one being cared for by this monster.Why can’t people just walk away? They weren’t even married yet
It says So On Video at the end, didn’t see it?
your comment is absolutely correct
Per the Idaho nursing license authority...Krystal's nursing license is currently suspended due to "criminal conviction" ... you can look up Krystal Lee
Horrible woman
"The candle scenario" was her idea , 14 months .............easy
If she's still a nurse....there is something very wrong with this world!
If she got a felony conviction, wouldn't she lose her license?
Can’t have a felony and have a nursing license while paying for her crimes. Not sure about after she pays her dues to society….idk. She may get a re-instatement.
Convicted of a crime of "moral terpetude" precludes RN licensure.
Not the whole world but America 🇺🇸 USA
@@barbaraguthrie5107yeah, she can never be a licensed nurse again.
The last story was great! Jessica’s grace in the midst of a very dark storm is inspiring!❤
Glad Maria got life. She's still continuing to try to get out of it but fails. She's so mean-spirited and would do it again.
Her and father must be with Italian Mafia, they look the part! 😈👿
I'm in tears with Jessica's story. I'm still healing at 68 from a traumatic childhood different circumstances from yours but still painful... God was watching over me the whole time and I know without Jesus in my life, I would not have made it, or stayed sane. I wish you peace and joy in your life. You're blessed with your own family, how fortunate you are for that! God bless you abundantly!
It is a lifelong journey!
Cops should be embarrassed to have let her wear a police jacket.
I could never figure that one out, smh
As of today, January 4, 2025, Jeff Pelley has been in the Indiana State Prison since October 2006 and has been denied a new trial 4 times. Since he was sentenced to 160 years, he'll never get out.
Good.
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Murdered in 1989 were Pelley’s father, the Rev. Bob Pelley; Dawn Pelly (stepmother), Janel, 8, and Jolene Pelly, 6 (stepsisters). Surviving were Jessie, 9, Pelley’s stepsister who was at a sleepover that night, and Jacque, 14, Pelley’s biological sister who was visiting a friend, according to other media outlets.
Thanks for the information
God promises to repay evil. He keeps his promises. God bless her.
In Franks case, the police are to blame 1000%. If they had done their jobs Frank would be here raising his kids. I have to deal with these same small town police where my mother lives. I have called them numerous times because my sister is abusing my elderly mother. My sister is friends with the chief of police. My sister is dangerous. Last time I called them she had committed a felony offense. I had the proof. They told her that she was upset so she should call her girlfriends and meet them for lunch to calm down. Hand to God that is what they did. You may be seeing my mother’s and my story on here someday. I hope not but it is possible. She will get away with it too. She has been arrested 17 times with no convictions. Nobody is that lucky if you know what I mean.
Small town=small results
so you notify the state police and call adult protective services
@ the state police were there and wanted to arrest her but the locals talked them out of it. Called adult protective services still waiting for a call back. This was 4 months ago. Last time ADPS was supposed to come out they sent child protective services because nobody from ADPS was available. It is a freaking nightmare in this town. Tried to contact attorney general got nothing.
This along with the fire being undetermined. Total crap. Just like the evidence being found in the found like the car jack. The good ol boy network. Odd how it took an insurance company to force the investigation to actuality done. And wow they found evidence of accelerant. Wonder what have been found in the other fire if they had looked???
Call Adult Protective Services.
Poor Jessie went through so much losing her family and then finding out her step=brother killed them. I am so glad her best friend finally found her and they were able to reconnect. I cried when she tried to take her life. I hope she is getting the help she needs and will be able to get through the terrible trauma that has plagued her all these years. Never give up Jessie. Life is worth living. God Bless you.
You are so right.
and her father dying at age 5 would also have been (as it was) traumatic.
Krystle Lee shouldn't have gotten such a sweet plea deal. She should be sitting in prison for an absolute minimum of 20-25 years.
This case is an absolute travesty.
And NO WAY should that woman be free. 😤🤬
Krystal killed and cleaned up the crime scene and set up Patrick. He had nothing to do with it. She also planted kelcies cell phone in Patrick’s car
Crystal should be charged
She was afraid of him??? She lived 800 miles away from him.......
And so ?
Probably was deeply engraved in her mind in a bad way
Wait until you find out about airplanes
@@DamnitDana 😅
The fact that the prosecutor said that they wouldn’t do anything different is disgraceful. That means they have no self reflection of their policies and should all be fired!
They did NOTHING, are accustomed to doing NOTHING and will continue to do NOTHING . Lazy corrupt inept small town people who got into power by owing favors .
Prosecutors struck a deal with the devil.
Yeah. They literally already said that.
Not even 1 hour ago I just took a hard fall off my bike, I'm bleeding, and everything hurts. I didn't think I'd have a "I'm grateful for" moment so soon, but I'm grateful to not be featured in these episodes.
Hope you're ok!❤
Good thing I watched this Marathon, because the third episode was brand new to me. Please, upload more of this "Live To Tell" Series! About the Third Case: Jessi is a survivor and a warrior! I'm glad she has a beautiful family now. May God Bless them!
Why on earth is this Crystal woman wearing a police jacket and a police cap? She had so many possibilities to call the police, so many miles she drove while she could have changed her mind.... Disgusting. Hope she will be haunted every minute by the thought she did not do anything to avoid the killing. Cleaning afterwards... What kind of nurse is this?
My guess is that they didn't want anyone outside the investigation to know that they had brought her in and were trying to make her blend in with the other officers so the suspect wasn't aware she was there
@@PixieMermaid-fz9rtThank you❣️ I was wondering about this too! 😳
@@PixieMermaid-fz9rt oh, thank you. Makes sense!!
This Idaho person was much more than the clean up lady.
That's right, I can't even watch this because I hate her and that pathetic DA so much, it raises my blood pressure.
I followed this case from the beginning till the end of the trials back then.
Lord what a monster
Crystal Lee was my post-op nurse around the time of the crime. I bring it up a lot. Crystal Lee is NOT well known around here.
She’s STILL a nurse is what I’m reading!
This is terrifying. So if those like us who are into true crime never find these awful stories, they/we won’t ever even know of local crimes like this? Neat.
Krystal only served 14 months & still has her nursing license. How is the latter possible? A felony conviction for a violent crime should disqualify her from ever practicing as a nurse again. I don’t understand how she still has her license.
Was she normal? Did you have any interaction with her?
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April 29,2024, Jeff was denied a new trial for the fourth time.
Krystle should not be walking free. What a sick individual. To be able to clean up someone’s dirty work and just be ok with it is deeply disturbing. I will never understand these women that help out a murderer and do not seem even stop and think, hmmmmm if he was capable of that what isn’t he? Krystal saw that horrific scene and cleaned it up. wtf?
Yeah I don’t get it either. If he could do that to the mother of his child, he could definitely do that to you.
In a perfect world and, were it up to me, Krystal would have never again seen the light of day. Much more importantly, though, she still has to stand before our just and protective God.
Crystal conspired, she's 💯 at fault. She's pure evil...
Some amazing stories. All crew from 48 hours always does an awesome job from interviews, research, to editing.
What baffles me is why the prosecution didn’t buy Krystal a home or a new car? I mean her only serving 14mos & keeping her nursing license is just as over the top redic as the Prosecution buying her a hse or car.
What a treat! Thank you. Evil never prevails.
Christal got way too easy and Pple in her life should be very careful, because she has a cold blooded heart.
I find it hard to believe she is a woman and a mother and would do this to another woman . She should have gotten 15-20 years
Frank Spencer story... I would never live in that district with that judge (former District Attorney) and his successor, nor with the Hemlock Township police department. The ball was dropped entirely in that situation by them. Sure, the police could have made the arrest, but typically, when there's a question, they consult the district attorney for guidance as to make an arrest. They were busy pointing fingers at each other for the failure. They failed. I could not trust them if something similar was going on.
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50 bucks says they are all related 🙄or a part of the “ good old boys “ club . Every single one of them stood by and watched this man get murdered, they let him down in life and death .
Why did their children go with the murderers sister? Was there no other relatives?
Were there no other relatives?
@fionagregory9147 thank you
Why shouldn't they be with that aunt? We don't know the reasons why they are with her...perhaps frank has no siblings, or close family, etc.
We also don't know anything about her, she may be completely distant from her father and sister, she may be an amazing person - calm, kind, settled, and best-placed to raise them without bias.
One would hope she keeps the children in healthy contact with both sides of their families.
And that they grow into healthy, contented adults in her care. ❤
@@sarahbarton4100 that’s a lot of “ maybes 😒” one more maybe is that she makes Maria the victim and frank the devil who is the reason their saintly mother is in jail . Maria is a pos so is her father , I find it hard to believe it skipped a generation 🙄
A whole mess of Stupid Wicked Amoral people with no common sense or decency.
Murdering a young mother over jealousy & control , those two ought to have been given the same sentence because Krystal was every bit as involved as he was.
They ALL were what you said. Including the victim.
People don’t think!!
Lord...people wicked.
Wow that Krystle chick should be rotting in jail. Outrageous.
Rest in Peace to ALL of the victims
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The last episode showcases how powerful friendship is. Society heralds romantic love as the ultimate goal, but the bond between Jessi and Stephanie was a life-saving, life-changing friendship. What a beautiful thing. I wish them both decades of happiness.
I agree with you on the beauty of their friendship, but few societies still herald romantic love as the ultimate goal. I guess you're referring to US society.
I live in Woodland Park. So glad you’ll are covering this story.
No cameras in the court room ? Why ? These judges that want this expose themselves! We the people deserve to see all trials !
Oh stop with the nonsense
@ what nonsense ? Wanting constitutional trials?
@ point out in the U.S. constitution where trials are to be televised.
How much school did you flunk? You are what’s wrong with America: lack of education
Re 1st story, Patrick/Kelsey: not one word about his family? Parents? Siblings? What was his defense? What was Crystal Lee's view of Kelsey? What did Patrick tell her about Kelsey? A crazy ex? What happened to his ranch? His animals? Come on 48 Hours!
according to statistics 9 out of 10 time a family member or husband/wife is responsible for the crime.
Can't do anything but sit with our thumbs up our butt's until you're murdered. Then they run around patting themselves on the back for the "good job" they all did! Ridiculous!
Huh?
I agree! Perfectly said!!!
It is outrageous
JessiCa's story is a powerful story. She seems to be a great wife and mother. I am so pleased her friend and cousin found her. Thank goodness she survived the suicide attempt. She still had a lot to give and live for. Wishing her , her family and friends every happiness
How could any man be in love or even lust with a woman like that Maria? Why did he sleep with her while her father torched his house? I don't understand. 😵💫
It feels disgraceful that Krystal wasn’t put in prison forever. However, deals like this one happen all the time. Prosecutors are always most concerned w/ getting the main culprit in a crime. They wanted Kelsey’s killer & were willing to, as they said, make a deal with the devil.
What's wrong with this chick?Why did she have to do his dirty work?
It’s very obvious that she wanted him for herself so she helped him supposedly clean up, but I think she did more, way more
How sad! Someone needs to fix Frank's house up, have a priest bless it and live in it to show Frank's memory that the proper family can still love and have a good life in his beautiful house. RIP Frank. I'm so very sorry that this happened to you. God bless your memory!
It is amazing how such a gorgeous and intelligent woman would fall in love to a man like PF. He does not look like a good person.
Agree
Bet Rocco’s excitement quickly vanished when they told him they could track that thing in his pocket.
She's an accomplice to the crime, never coerced . Definitely needs to be in jail and old.
I truly can’t stand when someone knows that they did what they were accused of and waste peoples time and money going to trial it urks me so much
Why do families of the perpetrators get to raise the children of the victims?
He looks evil by the eyes
Whats going on with so many men killing their spouse! So tragic!
This case haunts me. I can only imagine how her poor family feels. 😢
I can see why people remain single
Krystal saw that horrific scene and cleaned it up
🤢🤢🤢
They NEVER want to pay Child Support!
Jeff’s attorney saying he couldn’t have killed his parents and got rid of the gun and attend the prom doesn’t hold up . All three were shot , that didn’t take time , he threw the weapon in his trunk and went to the prom . He had more than 24 hrs after to dispose of the gun , he went to a game next day with his girlfriend, he had more than enough time before the bodies were dis covered and the next day to get rid of the weapon.
Naw, he didn’t do it.
That's crazy maria sister get the kids. Not only did everyone lose frank they lost there grandkids too. They will be forced to love the parent that killed there father.
_Their_, sweetheart 😘
Vasectomy. It works.
😂😂😂 facts 💯
Thing is, he WANTED custody of the child so apparently having it wasn’t the problem - he just wanted the child all to himself.
@k8schmate ah, ok 👍
Vasectomy and birth control pills, condoms etc.😂😂😂😂
Frank living in that small town full of idiots got him killed.
Ridiculous trying to put that spoil jelous brat Crystal like she was manipulated, come on....
Does it ever occur to law enforcement to try to prevent crime ??.....no.
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The problem with Jessica’s case is I didn’t hear any evidence or proof the step brother did it. Did I miss anything?
I don’t believe he did it.
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Happy New Year to you as well 🍻
What INCOMPETENCE, by the Police Dept and Fire Dept in that county, that Maria and Frank lived in.
Wow, what a perfect idea, during and after the divorce the children should get the home and the parents get to visit. This should be a law!
obviously i feel bad for jessie - but jeff being convicted of murdering his whole family with literally no evidence? wtf - that is insane
So, is this Krystal woman still a nurse? Please tell me the board of nursing in whichever state she’s registered in has yanked her license to practice . This is clearly a conflict of interest for anyone who provides patient care . Appalling. .
She was released after only serving 14 months as in 2021, her sentence was reduced, & from everything that I had been able to find, she has her nursing license still. Absolutely horrifying & that should not be possible.
In this atmosphere of victim mentality and denial of personal responsibility, Jesse is a stand-out for her amazing strength. I'm sure she's been a source of inspiration for many.
A mother that is risking her life/ freedom for a man🙄🙄
Maria was not a very good looking! then I saw her father and I understand know.
How do we know Crystal didn’t do it, jealousy can jack you up, the other woman did have a baby with him,
Justice for Kelsey:
I worked in Woodland Park, Colorado, when I was in high school (and we had a family reunion there last year). My mother lived in Gooding, Idaho, at the end of her life, so this story caught my attention! I wonder if my mother ever encountered that nurse?
The police took the statements about the threats against him. Then, did nothing because Frank didn't want to pursue the charges. What a crock, if it were a man making the same threats, he'd been arrested and behind bars. This is so typical of the absolute bias police, prosecutors, and the public have when it comes to men receiving threats or being abused.
I lost my mom at 17, dad at 18, a brother in 85, a brother in 2010 and recently a sister. Don’t ever tell someone you understand or could put yourself in their shoes, that’s wrong and out of line. You don’t understand unless you been through it yourself. I hate when ppl say that, that’s a reason I can’t speak ro a therapist
Just wanted you to know - I lost my mom in 1995 when I was 15, my dad in 2006, I have little to no actual family. I have never been the same since that day in 1995, nothing really matters once you experience this level of loss Only after having my daughter did I learn to feel joy again especially holidays or simple everyday events that make ones absence glaringly and painfully evident. I cry for and with you. 🙏🏻❤️
Dam you been through alot and I would think you are a strong and awesome person that I could get along with, my mom left when I was a kid and my dad dragged us through two step moms and we were taken from him and put in orphanage at 14 yrs old, so much has happened in my life as well so I do understand pain and sorrow on a different level than most😊✌️
@@maiziebugI understand for sure my life has been a rough journey as well and I’m glad to hear that you have made through and are moving forward in life😊
Ive never had a therapist say that to me. I wonder if you could be open to an idea: what if.
What if learning tools to heal could be unconditional? What if someone could show you new skills and not empathize with your exact situation? What if- you deserve to be heard even though the person listening will never truly understand what it was like for you? You deserve to have your chance to create the life you want
Loss is part of life. Everyone experiences it at some point.
Look I've been watching a lot of these episodes and it's always a inmate who comes up wit some BS about the killer telling him what he did with the body or bragging about what he did,?? to a Ngga he just now met in jail,??
Actually, you hear about that repeatedly because it happens all the time. Those who end up in jail are often willing to turn on someone else in a minute if they can help them in any way. That doesn’t mean that they made it up and the police do much further investigation when a jail house snitch comes forward as sometimes there isn’t truth to it. When people are incarcerated, they can do a lot of things that you may not imagine they would do, including running their mouth to a cell mate. Many criminals aren’t the sharpest tool in the shed.
1:33:33 Members Only jacket is a sure sign of a psychopath
They send her away to camp and they just expect her to be normal again???
Luminol can show if Krystle is telling the truth
Woodland Park Police Chief - “As a reminder, Patrick Frazee is innocent until proven guilty. Just ignore the green and white stripped prison jump suit.”
Omg. All the cases are heartbreaking stories :(
Frank situation: I never thought I’d see this but he was extremely failed for a heterosexual yt male who did everything right to report his harassment.
The mob ties are seeming more valid because I don’t understand
Krystal is a pos she’s not even emotional talking about it smh 😢
I can understand that the prosecutors didn't have enough to bring Patrick to Justice and they had to make a deal with Crystal. But the deal that Krystal card was so unfair. She could have stopped this she could have prevented this from happening yet she decided to help this evil man because she's just evil like him. Showings for 14 months for her part in this and to me that is crazy. Kelsey didn't what happened to her ... Crystal did what she did cause she is just as evil as Patrick there is no other reason ... I feel so bad for Kelsy's family , friends but specially for her young daughter.
#1 story/ Kelsey was very pretty, and way too good for that creepy Patrick F. 🙄
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Michele is also so shallow🤦🏽♀️, she could have called the police, because i will never trust such pple🤷🏽♀️
I bet crystal Lee. Had to move out of town because she surely wasn't well liked after this happened
A whole lot of incompetent fire inspectors in the town where Frank lived…
Exactly what I thought…the whole group were pretty much incompetent.
happy Sunday!!.... from New Zealand♥
It's Saturday in the US.
silly, it’s saturday lol
You be making some sense Lucky! Your analytical thinking skills are impressive.
I remember this when it first came out. Vile people killing that lady
Mistress is just as culpable
Rocco and Maria are red flag names tbh.
Rocco Franklin and Maria Spencer either threatened or coerced those fire inspectors into their false determinations of what is obviously arson. And for an insurance claims adjuster to get it right before an ARSON INSPECTOR shows either gross incompetence or deliberate neglect. They both should be in jail as well.
Krystal should have been jailed 25 years - total psychopath just like her boyfriend. What a crooked jury….14 months yuck. Maria and Rocco - surprised Pennsylvania got it right. However karma did have its way with them 2 horrible people. Rot in jail - perfect. RIP for all victims including the poor dog, that passed in the fire. Awful 😢.
She was given a longer sentence but in 2021 her sentence was reduced by a higher court for some reason. She also still has her nursing license from what I’ve read & that’s horrifying.
When people are going to learn that you never ever know anybody, never. She is a cold bloody killer like him, I cannot understand those "legal" kind of deals