I live in Arizona, there are lots of visitors that come here to hike or climb The Superstition Mountains. Several of these visitors die each year because they do not understand the power of nature and they do not prepare. I don't care where you go, you must do your research, spend time training your mind and body and truly understand what you are considering doing. Going out into these places is not the same as working out in a gym or hiking through a city park or climbing a rock wall in a controlled environment.
My brother and my father have identical handwriting. It’s been looked at by experts (in a dispute over a will). My brother was not raised by my father. Was not exposed to him. So maybe “experts” aren’t always correct. There are people that write alike.
Crazy. My late mother and my handwriting were NOTHING alike. She was German and I was born and raised in the U.S. Every once in a while I randomly make letters or numbers exactly the way she had written them. I always catch it immediately when I do, and like I said, it’s really random. 🤷🏼♀️
@@janicescott6569 if you saw their handwriting it would seem a bit uncanny. Two experts were unable to decipher which man wrote what. Some things are just a part of who we are as a gene bound group.
I think the parents should still be held responsible for child abuse (which they admitted to) and neglect for failure to locate or even try to locate their young child. There shouldn't be any statutes of limitation for child abuse.
The people on the treasure hunt were all grown adults. Described as daring, brave etc, they made their choices, tragic as that may have been for the families of a small amount of those people. They totally chose to do it. This is no different to going on a hike in extreme conditions, which is done all the time, also sometimes with terrible outcomes. I am relieved the dog was saved, the only one who didn't choose to be there. RIP to all of those who didn't make it home
I agree nobody made anyone go on the hunt, and while it is regrettable that some people died, I can think of worse ways to perish. We need to remember that people are mortal, and there are no guarantees for anyone to see their old age. Having written that I believe the treasure did not exist, and the finding was staged.
Going hiking on extreme trails etc are not man-made adventures.Even so there will be caution and some forbidden areas and such.Here if he didn't announce this hunt, people won't be rushing there.I am not saying that you can hold him accountable for other people's choices.But still,I understand the worries of loved ones.
@@amazinglyjustme I also completely feel for the families of the people who chose to do this. And the people who choose to do extreme sports all over the world every day .
Let me get this straight... Mary is accused (without grounds, she claims) of having an affair with the school superintendent. Her husband dies under suspicious circumstances, trying to protect her from the letter writer. And then she thinks it's a good idea to start an affair with the superintendent?!!?!
Ironically, sometimes the only person who understands is the other person who was accused. Being thrown together and tarnished with the same brush can make strange bedfellows.
She probably did have something with him prior but that doesn’t mean she deserved to have her life threatened and everything else. Also if Karen sue wanted the superintendent then jealousy is a crazy motive, especially when the woman is way prettier than you 🙃
I have an adult friend that moved to Georgia in the 2000’s. She had to have been in her late 30’s or 40’s. I spoke with her over the phone after probably 5 years of her being in Georgia. She has a straight up southern accent.
Funerals are not really a 'thing' anymore. Ridiculously expensive and for the living, not the dead. I have cremation pre=paid and no funeral/memorial plans when I die. I haven't been to a funeral for over twenty years for anyone, friend or family. A few memorials here and there. But if there is no one in Mary's life who needs to grieve and mourn her death, no point in a funeral. Sounds like the loss happened when she was a teen, not as an adult.
When I was 7 turning 8... I stayed in a hospital in New York. I was from Washington State. I stayed in New York for 4 months. When I came home my Dad noticed I talked a little bit like I was from New York. It stuck with me until I was a young adult. If I am around people from New York... My accent from New York comes back. I can't explain it.
People that are neurodivergent can also take on other people’s accents. My eldest is terrible for this and she doesn’t even realise she does it at times. And some people can’t believe she is actually from East London UK as her accent changes depending on who she talks to the most but then suddenly she can go back to talking in a softer tone to my accent which is East London UK. It’s amazing what the mind can do without you even realising sometimes
I live in Iowa but have had people tell-ask me where I grew up because they think I have a southern accent. Just a small leftover bit, I just laugh I’ve never even visited anyone in the south.
@ I live in Iowa too! We moved here from Minnesota when I was 4 and I still have my Minnesota accent. My brother sounds like he’s from the south, especially when drinking lol. He’s never lived in the south either
Did Paul Freshour write the Circleville letters? My answer is, I don't know. The fact that the letters continued while he was incarcerated is too high of an improbability for me to be certain. I worked as a nurse at a state prison, and I find it hard to believe he could have sent them from prison.
He didn't have to. He wrote a mass of them during the trial and had somebody else mail them while he was in prison as a ruse to make it look like the criminal was somebody else and to exonerate himself. A real bozo conman trick.
Also: how did he get access to everybody‘s secrets in prison? What kind if secrets were revealed? Were the letters just crazy talk or did these people who received letters actually have secrets?
Because the law didn't protect the kids that good in those days. Now it's even worse, they send them back into the abusive home so that they disappear for good, and then they take action when it's too late, 🤦.
I think the only way she could possibly have been an imposter is if they were identical twins… otherwise believe a dying woman as a kindness and last wish, to be believed…
Imagine Mary Day as an adult, finally meeting her sisters and being doubted by everyone. That poor woman NEVER found love, peace, or comfort even though DNA proved she was telling the truth. What a sad story. RIP, Mary.
@@faithlavigne4415 I agree. She’s the adult image of her childhood picture. What terrible treatment of her, which coloured the rest of her life. God Bless her 🙏❤️❤️❤️
The accent is not a smoking gun, if she lived in the south once she ran away is easily developed over time. Then she moved to Arizona! SO that's not unusual.
So true! I lived in GA from 5-7 yrs, then Ft.Worth Texas from 7 to 12 then Ohio 2 yrs, I had a accent until I moved to CA at 15yrs till now, only few words I say different by habit but no accent after a few yrs!
I have a friend that moved to London for 2 years. When she moved back to Texas she had developed an accent that sounded like she was originally from England. It took about 2 years for it to wear off but she never got the Texas accent back.
How could you not see that Mary was actually telling the truth about her identity??? She looks exactly like the picture of her as a kid. The nose, the lips, eyes... how could you not see that?
There was a lot of data, history, feelings, trauma, and time for those people. But when I saw it, as a TH-cam detective, it gave me goosebumps right away that I was looking at her
Arizona Mary Days DNA proves she is Mary Day who went missing cause her parents were cazy and abusive. She ran away and went to the south. Why are they questioning her DNA? DNA doesnt lie. I grew up with a Kentucky accent until I lived in the North (southern and Northan Indiana) more in my teens and still today where I dont have a Kentucky accent but I can bring it back any time. So its plausible Mary Days accent changed. My accent changed within 11+ years. She was gone 20 years. The family is in denial.
The investigators were questioning the DNA because it didn't prove their theory. As for thee accent, people can adopt and / or mimic an accent. Not sure why the police didn't figure this out.
@@vripp757 I thought additional DNA said it matched the father. I was getting angry that no one thought to compare to the husband's DNA before coming up with a stupid theory. How dense can they be?
@@vripp757 why wouldn't they get the full results of her DNA when they can? Mary's DNA matches mom and bio dad. DNA doesn't lie. The authorities do cause they can't stand being wrong. Arizona Mary is the real Mary. She looks exactly like the picture.
I think the dogs were in the right spot but it was a different child buried there. The shoe they found was very small. And if I was Mary I would run away too. She was being severely abused for years.
I'm so sorry. If I were you neighbor you could've come to our house and we would have helped you. I hope you're doing okay. I'll keep you in my prayers.
Mary’s sister thought all this years Mary would still remember the code??? Heck I don’t even remember my TH-cam password and still need to check on my password file to look it up! RIP Mary Day. Such a devastating life she had. Her own sisters don’t even believe her. Sad sad sad.
Circleville: I think the letters came from someone in law enforcement or was being protected by someone in law enforcement. The level of incompetence in not finding the writer cant be genuine. Hundreds of letters over decades and continuing after a man was convicted. It doesn't seem possible the writers identity has never been found.
@@reallyseriously7020 Exactly! There seems to be a big missing piece to this puzzle.and It was frustrating. And no one has mentioned how odd it was that the woman that was targeted to be having the affair all that time, the bus driver, actually started having an affair with that man after her husbands suspicious death. What was the motive behind this lunatics obsession? Was he in love with the bus driver? Why did the son commit suicide. How were all those letters sent from prison. Were the post marks from the town the prison was in. You are right that something had to be going on for this not to be stopped sooner but maybe bc no DNA then?
@@ell97918 I’m wondering that also. It would be interesting to know if now that the son and his dad are both dead, if the letters continued and if they continued after the son committed suicide and if they continued until the dad died. This case needs to be definitely solved. There was no way the dad could have sent hundreds of letters from prison but his fingerprints were found on some.
The dad of the guy who died becase he got in a raft, alone, in rough waters without a life jacket needs to stop blaming anyone other than his stupid reckless son. He blames the others that were with him and the guy who buried the treasure. Sir none of those people are respodible for the decisions youd son mades that resulted in his death. Every single thing that caused his death was 💯 on him amd him alone
Not a loving or real relationship imo. Seems as if the stepfather was more interested in Mary than her mom. Some evil men will find a weak and dimwitted single mother who can be manipulated for easier and consistent access to abuse her children, or child in this case.
@liMe-leMon yeah, but the auto-subtitles usually are off/slow/too fast...and that's if they have the right words at all! wish all videos had actual subtitles. i joke that my life is one big madlib, because im so hard of hearing. it's 2024, almost 2025, how is it not standard to have subtitles on every video??
The circleville letter writer being Paul makes a lot of sense. Dude idolized Mary and Tim's relationship so when Mary stepped out on Tim, he took it to heart. Third story. You can't blame Fenn for what happens to people who willingly go and look for treasure. They are grown adults who can make their own decisions.
Such a strange story. I would love to hear from Paul's ex wife. She could tell us something about Paul's personality behind closed doors. Was it wildly different from his public persona? Or not? His divorce was contentious and his son sided exclusively with his mother. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there is more to Paul than what's portrayed here. Your suggested motive makes sense to me.
@@davidwoermansr His fingerprints were on those letters though. How could they have ended up on there if he hadn't written them? Also, lets be real here, while all ingoing and outgoing mail *should* be read in prisons, we have so many examples of that not happening either because of laziness or making deals with prisoners.
@@dees2868 the first ones it wouldn't be hard to take a page off a legal pad on his desk and have his prints on it if they took enough the ones supposedly from prison could've been acquired before he was locked up he spent alot of his time in solitary and the mail is highly scrutinized there it's a short list of people who can write you and you can't write back you get 1 hr twice a week to use the phone you either give up rec time or 1 of your 3 showers that week to use it at least that's how it is in the 4 states I know inmates in
I moved to texas from New Jersey but grew up in Chicago. I have a texas twang, the words and expressions of speech. It's possible to get a accent after after 21, in my case 28. The story of Mary Day reminds me if recent case of Amanda Overstreet who's parents never filed a missing report. 😢
A Southern accent is sooo easy to pick up. I spent a few months in Louisiana, and when I returned to the PNW everyone laughed that I had picked up a "Southern accent". It wasn't some big ol' drawl, it was pretty subtle and went away after a month or so back home. Later I married a man from Alabama. When he first moved to the PNW, he was barely understandable the accent was so thick. A few years later, it's a gentle lilt in his speech. But get him on the phone with his family still down South, and it comes roaring back lol. He even laughs and asked: "Did I sound that country back then?" Yup and yup! His Kentucky friend has a very slight barely noticeable hint of Southern after over 20 years out of the South. A road trip home, and he was twanging away lol. It gentled out after a few weeks and back to his normal speech. It's super easy to pick up without realizing. There are some who never try to let it go easy and keep it strong no matter where they are. Seems like an affectation. I hear a deep Southern drawl/twang and they've lived here 16 years, that's on purpose. .
I’m 35 but I was always a life long fan of the show Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack, I believe that the circle ville case was on one of those episodes. Creepy as hell.
I don't blame Forest. Who do you blame when mountaineers die? Or anyone who has a high risk tolerance and seeks adventure. A certain percentage of people want adventure and it's not regardless of the risk it's BECAUSE of the risk. People like that help us see the and push the limits of humanity. They display courage. And it's not for us to stifle that si that we can enjoy them, fettered and stunted. We should celebrate them for those wonderful things about them are what makes us love them so. ❤️
Ppl like Eric, whose own father claimed suffered from histrionic personality disorder, which is the need to be recognized aren't the kind of ppl who need therapy. Their lack of emotional intelligence causes extremely immature, irrational thoughts & behaviors. It's far from courageous, actually extremely dangerous. Especially for ppl who aren't able of differentiate the two.
The Mary Day story broke me into tears. I dont think it is clear if the sisters stayed with her until the end or may be she wanted to die alone. Once they confirmed she was the sister they so awaited to meet, I'd assume as riddled with cancer and she was that the family would unite. In any event a tragic story.
In the Mary Day case it is hilarious to see how cops will twist and turn in outlandish ways rather than admit that their pet theory was wrong. Poor Mary, I don't believe the sisters would have found Mary so hard to believe if the cops hadn't treated her like an imposter from the get-go. I mean, give me a break, I spend 10 days somewhere and it changes my accent, and they think a twang trumps her DNA results?
People's greed and hunger for extreme adventure led to their deaths... It's very sad, but it shows people are driven by greed... People die all the time in extreme adventure type pursuits, I will never understand the risk they take... Life is way too precious to waste it falling off a mountain or freezing to death up there... Such a total waste of life, leaving people with empty broken hearts to live on without them.
12:10 I was just saying the same thing: “This sounds like an Agatha Christie novel!” Poison Pen letters are typically written by women. We need Miss Marple to solve this mystery.
One of the deepest Character Flaws of being human is to blame someone else for your own actions and bad decisions. In no way is Fenn responsible for those people's deaths...
It was the son, Mark, who was a Mama's boy. His mother initially had her son write the letters, emulating his father's writing so that they could frame him and she could profit financially after he went to prison. Then Mark, feeling guilty, kept writing letters after his father was sentenced hoping to spring him from prison. Later, he killed himself because of guilt, after Dad was released. Edit: And to explain the fingerprints, the son had him touch papers before he was sent away. You have to consider how diabolical the perp was in order to pull this off!
@@dees2868 His son set him up by having him touch envelopes or pieces of paper before he was sent to prison. You have to remember that the person who did this was extremely diabolical in his planning.
Wow that Letter writer really had to be very busy to know so much about so many people, or had a job where they heard all gossip! It wasn’t Paul F. The misspelling (which I notice first thing in everything I read) was very high & he was to educated to have that many misspelled words. Not saying educated people are great spellers, but Paul would not mess up certain words I saw. ALSO, when the letters suddenly stopped, why didn’t they check the deaths in that month & previous month in that town & where the letters were postmarked? Normally when something stops like this, that is usually the cause.🤔🤔🧐
I don’t think Paul did it. I think it was his wife who did it- she might have used blank papers lying around the house that already had her husbands fingerprints on them- and then copied - forged her husband@s writing. I think when the son found out he had been deceived all his life by his mother, - that’s when the killed himself.
My brother in law moved from California to Tennessee at age 18 but has a strong Southern accent after decades living there, so that is not unbelievable that someone can acquire an accent as an older teen.
I was so excited for a Circleville update. It was my favorite story from OG Unsolved Mysteries. I felt so sorry for Paul Freshour and the taunts he received in prison. I thought he was a sympathetic victim of the letter writer. I didn't want it to be him. 😮
I feel like they owed that guy a lot of back pay for the time he served. Come on... How can the letters continue if he's in prison. You can't get away with much when you're in prison They practically read your letters before they're sent out. Why am I leaning towards the suicidal dude. Even with his age he could have been a teenager like that's a small town teenagers do crazy stuff like I don't know Just wondering if he killed us up cuz he felt bad about what he did to that Paul
@@redbonesweetE215did you miss the part where several of the letters had Paul’s DNA on them, even those sent while he was in prison? They snuck that in at the end
@@redbonesweetE215I worked in a prison & they read the INCOMING mail, not the outgoing, and even someone in solitary has a constitutional right to send uncensored & unscreened letters to any lawyer, federal, state & local officials, news organizations, etc. It would have been easier than you think
@@BalletTapJazzomggg so you think I'm feeling sorry for a guilty man?? But how could he do it? Through other prisoners? I absolutely abhor cases like this.... I'm gonna watch it again. Just because....
So Mary Day was who she told she was? (Especially since she matched with her mother and her birth father).Sad.She found a lot of people who cared for her after her disappearance,but none believed her after reappearing. Btw who died then?
I think they should tell where it was found so many can figure out if they came close to it. I agree tht Fenn should allow ppl to look for the treasure .....he gave ppl a dream. Any time one goes out in nature there are chances of falling, being attack, possibly freezing.....one needs to take the proper precautions. Should we stop ppl from hiking in the parks because some of them die????
it makes me sad she didn't have a funeral, or a "send off" or anything?....considering what it sounds like she'd been thru, i think she deserved at least a proper send off!! but that's jus' me....
I don't blame Forest for the deaths. It's a pity that it happened, but these gentlemen were obviously not prepared, experienced, or careful. Unfortunately, that is on them.
I get people blaming Forrest but those people were old enough to stop. Fenn was an old man they should have not went on the depths. Poor Mary Day, she was never truly loved, rejected by her own sister.
Think about how many young kids this has happened too. Those poor family members that had to grieve, especially her sister. Those parents should be ashamed
The Mary day story is bizarre to the max, cos in both homes that family lived the dogs identified human death, but this will probably be a mystery that's never solved.
I think that man who created the treasure hunt is egotistical, loving all the adoration from the thrill seekers and not giving a damn about those who lost their lives or their families.
I love your tongue-in-cheek commentary on life today with the scourge of vicious narcissism that plagues society and actually takes a lot of us down for a long time, some forever. When we laugh hysterically, 🤣we know that you speak truth! Thank you for my daily laugh. Laughing helps reduce the stress of it all.
Saw that treasure chest story on some show on tv few months ago, I wouldn’t believe the host guy! I think it was a setup but if people want to do that, best wishes! I only was happy about the furrbaby! He didn’t choose to go! Mary Day story is very strange,, but did her parents just let her walk away? Didn’t report or go find her, how awful. Sounds like a tough life for the girls. 🙏❤️
I still remember when my youghest daughter was 12 and did'nt come home from school. I tought i went crazy and after 3 hours if surching and calling whe called the police. They came in action right away. Luckely there was a miscommunicatiom. She had told me that she would go to a friend after school. And that morning she forgot her phone. I was so happy she came true the dore i huged her so tight. She did'nt understand what was going on. It was or i did'nt hear her or she tought she told me but did'nt. Did'nt matter to me she was home. ❤❤
Someone jealous of Mary, (the wife of Jim and a school bus driver). A woman?? Another school bus driver?? Or somebody smearing the principals life and livelihood because of jealousy?? Or a woman that had a romantic interest in him??
Handwriting can be copied by a spouse. A spouse or ex spouse has a unique position in knowledge & wanted to throw "experts" off. If he wrote the letters, he would try to change his writing.
Sure, Fenn could've called the treasure hunt off. But that wouldn't have stopped ppl from hunting. Ppl like Eric, whose own father claimed suffered from histrionic personality disorder, which is the need to be recognized aren't the kind of ppl you can talk sense into. They're mindset causes extremely irrational thoughts & behaviors. Adding fearless & "obsessed" to that creates an unreasonable person who can't be stopped.
I have to say, anyone, anywhere, who does anything, & suggests they personally, can't ever be wrong, & anyone who does exactly what they do, & if wrong, that's only because those people were flawed - - - but you're some magical human unicorn who can't be wrong, & couldn't even be tricked, I'd never use that person for literally anything again.
Fenn created an adventure. The risks are evident. The Grand Canyon has not closed and many have been hurt and died. Many still tour Death Valley despite risks.
Spoiler alert on the 1st story. There are no "twists or turns" in the first case. Every single piece of evidence and the only person to have anything to gain from it was the soon to be ex-wife, Karen Sue. She's absolutely the mastermind. Sickening that she got away with it, a true sociopath.
I wouldn't have called off the search if it was me he said don't go where an 80 year old man couldn't go so why were idiots going places where they couldn't go
Whoever wrote these letters was surely diabolical and I wonder if they ever tried to do a DNA of the stamps? Great story but very scary it gives one chills to think this person is this sick! Thanks for a good story!❤
I live in Arizona, there are lots of visitors that come here to hike or climb The Superstition Mountains. Several of these visitors die each year because they do not understand the power of nature and they do not prepare. I don't care where you go, you must do your research, spend time training your mind and body and truly understand what you are considering doing. Going out into these places is not the same as working out in a gym or hiking through a city park or climbing a rock wall in a controlled environment.
My brother and my father have identical handwriting. It’s been looked at by experts (in a dispute over a will). My brother was not raised by my father. Was not exposed to him. So maybe “experts” aren’t always correct. There are people that write alike.
Genetic’s run deep! Mannerism’s, all sorts of things can be so identical of family members that were never together.
Crazy. My late mother and my handwriting were NOTHING alike. She was German and I was born and raised in the U.S. Every once in a while I randomly make letters or numbers exactly the way she had written them. I always catch it immediately when I do, and like I said, it’s really random. 🤷🏼♀️
@@janicescott6569 if you saw their handwriting it would seem a bit uncanny. Two experts were unable to decipher which man wrote what. Some things are just a part of who we are as a gene bound group.
That was my first thought. It was the son’s handwriting.
@@janicescott6569those apostrophes were not needed.
Something dead was buried in their backyards. That’s why the cop couldn’t give up on his initial theory.. Strange.
I think the parents should still be held responsible for child abuse (which they admitted to) and neglect for failure to locate or even try to locate their young child. There shouldn't be any statutes of limitation for child abuse.
Agreed 😢
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I knew we weren't supposed to talk about bruno. I had no idea the same went for mary😮
The people on the treasure hunt were all grown adults. Described as daring, brave etc, they made their choices, tragic as that may have been for the families of a small amount of those people. They totally chose to do it. This is no different to going on a hike in extreme conditions, which is done all the time, also sometimes with terrible outcomes. I am relieved the dog was saved, the only one who didn't choose to be there. RIP to all of those who didn't make it home
My thoughts exactly.
I agree nobody made anyone go on the hunt, and while it is regrettable that some people died, I can think of worse ways to perish. We need to remember that people are mortal, and there are no guarantees for anyone to see their old age.
Having written that I believe the treasure did not exist, and the finding was staged.
Going hiking on extreme trails etc are not man-made adventures.Even so there will be caution and some forbidden areas and such.Here if he didn't announce this hunt, people won't be rushing there.I am not saying that you can hold him accountable for other people's choices.But still,I understand the worries of loved ones.
@@amazinglyjustme I also completely feel for the families of the people who chose to do this. And the people who choose to do extreme sports all over the world every day .
💯 agree. As others said, no different than hiking Half Dome, or mountain climbing. Inherent risk, no one is forcing anyone to do anything
Let me get this straight... Mary is accused (without grounds, she claims) of having an affair with the school superintendent. Her husband dies under suspicious circumstances, trying to protect her from the letter writer. And then she thinks it's a good idea to start an affair with the superintendent?!!?!
I thought the same thing. If I were accused of having an affair with someone, and I was not, I would stay far away from that person. Crazy
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Ironically, sometimes the only person who understands is the other person who was accused. Being thrown together and tarnished with the same brush can make strange bedfellows.
@denisebenedict6102 YEP.
She probably did have something with him prior but that doesn’t mean she deserved to have her life threatened and everything else. Also if Karen sue wanted the superintendent then jealousy is a crazy motive, especially when the woman is way prettier than you 🙃
Paul lost everything.. His house, His freedom, and most importantly his Son...
What a tough life.
They sent the wrong man to prison for 10 years.
Crappy US "justice".
I have an adult friend that moved to Georgia in the 2000’s. She had to have been in her late 30’s or 40’s. I spoke with her over the phone after probably 5 years of her being in Georgia. She has a straight up southern accent.
Happens for sure
Where did she move from? Tennessee? Or Australia?
The Centerville Letters was a story that always fascinated me, when I saw the story on Unsolved Mysteries!!!
Circleville
The lady document examiner, is amazing- such dignity and confidence!
Exactly🙏🏻💪🏻
Mary didn't even get a funeral. Heartless and cruel. Rip misses. 😢😢😢
Funerals are not really a 'thing' anymore. Ridiculously expensive and for the living, not the dead. I have cremation pre=paid and no funeral/memorial plans when I die. I haven't been to a funeral for over twenty years for anyone, friend or family. A few memorials here and there. But if there is no one in Mary's life who needs to grieve and mourn her death, no point in a funeral. Sounds like the loss happened when she was a teen, not as an adult.
When I was 7 turning 8... I stayed in a hospital in New York. I was from
Washington State. I stayed in New York for 4 months. When I came home my Dad noticed I talked a little bit like I was from New York. It stuck with me until I was a young adult. If I am around people from New York... My accent from New York comes back. I can't explain it.
I still have my Minnesota accent and I moved to a different state when I was 4 🤷♀️🤷♀️
People that are neurodivergent can also take on other people’s accents. My eldest is terrible for this and she doesn’t even realise she does it at times. And some people can’t believe she is actually from East London UK as her accent changes depending on who she talks to the most but then suddenly she can go back to talking in a softer tone to my accent which is East London UK. It’s amazing what the mind can do without you even realising sometimes
I live in Iowa but have had people tell-ask me where I grew up because they think I have a southern accent. Just a small leftover bit, I just laugh I’ve never even visited anyone in the south.
@ I live in Iowa too! We moved here from Minnesota when I was 4 and I still have my Minnesota accent. My brother sounds like he’s from the south, especially when drinking lol. He’s never lived in the south either
I use to fly to London 2-3 a month (former flight attendant). I picked up a slight british accent and the lingo😂.
Did Paul Freshour write the Circleville letters? My answer is, I don't know. The fact that the letters continued while he was incarcerated is too high of an improbability for me to be certain. I worked as a nurse at a state prison, and I find it hard to believe he could have sent them from prison.
That's what I said.
This person was a crazy beyond words crazy this happened in Ohio
They sent the wrong man to prison for 10 years.
He didn't have to. He wrote a mass of them during the trial and had somebody else mail them while he was in prison as a ruse to make it look like the criminal was somebody else and to exonerate himself. A real bozo conman trick.
Also: how did he get access to everybody‘s secrets in prison? What kind if secrets were revealed? Were the letters just crazy talk or did these people who received letters actually have secrets?
I’m really puzzled that the mom and stepdad of Mary were never arrested and held accountable for her disappearance!
Especially if they were depositing her checks.
Because the law didn't protect the kids that good in those days. Now it's even worse, they send them back into the abusive home so that they disappear for good, and then they take action when it's too late, 🤦.
@@racyt5683That's a crime within itself
I think the only way she could possibly have been an imposter is if they were identical twins… otherwise believe a dying woman as a kindness and last wish, to be believed…
They collected her welfare checks too. It was fraud against the Social Security Administration.
So unfair!
Imagine Mary Day as an adult, finally meeting her sisters and being doubted by everyone. That poor woman NEVER found love, peace, or comfort even though DNA proved she was telling the truth. What a sad story. RIP, Mary.
@@Angela-ne9cy Yes, I believe her abuse as a child destroyed her mentally. Shame on the mother and step dad.
Exactly what I was thinking. Besides the DNA matching up the comparassion of adult Mary and child Mary the resemblance is uncanny!
@@faithlavigne4415 I agree. She’s the adult image of her childhood picture. What terrible treatment of her, which coloured the rest of her life. God Bless her 🙏❤️❤️❤️
She found 60K$
Absolutely
I think Mary Day did not just struggle with alcohol but also with drug addiction from an early age which explains the memory deficit...
The accent is not a smoking gun, if she lived in the south once she ran away is easily developed over time. Then she moved to Arizona! SO that's not unusual.
So true! I lived in GA from 5-7 yrs, then Ft.Worth Texas from 7 to 12 then Ohio 2 yrs, I had a accent until I moved to CA at 15yrs till now, only few words I say different by habit but no accent after a few yrs!
I have a friend that moved to London for 2 years. When she moved back to Texas she had developed an accent that sounded like she was originally from England. It took about 2 years for it to wear off but she never got the Texas accent back.
How could you not see that Mary was actually telling the truth about her identity??? She looks exactly like the picture of her as a kid. The nose, the lips, eyes... how could you not see that?
The DNA...?🤷🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
@@BeautyMarkBae 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐷𝑁𝐴 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑑 𝑠ℎ𝑒 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑢𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑠ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑖𝑑 𝑠ℎ𝑒 𝑤𝑎𝑠...?!
There was a lot of data, history, feelings, trauma, and time for those people. But when I saw it, as a TH-cam detective, it gave me goosebumps right away that I was looking at her
@@joiathegreat 𝑆ℎ𝑒 ℎ𝑎𝑑 𝑎 𝑡𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ 𝑙𝑖𝑓𝑒. 𝐻𝑜𝑝𝑒𝑓𝑢𝑙𝑙𝑦, 𝑠ℎ𝑒'𝑠 𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑛𝑜𝑤.
Exactly
Arizona Mary Days DNA proves she is Mary Day who went missing cause her parents were cazy and abusive. She ran away and went to the south. Why are they questioning her DNA? DNA doesnt lie.
I grew up with a Kentucky accent until I lived in the North (southern and Northan Indiana) more in my teens and still today where I dont have a Kentucky accent but I can bring it back any time.
So its plausible Mary Days accent changed.
My accent changed within 11+ years. She was gone 20 years.
The family is in denial.
They weren't questioning the DNA, they only thought that it could have been a different daughter.
The DNA only showed that she was a child of Charlotte. It wasn't her complete profile.
The investigators were questioning the DNA because it didn't prove their theory. As for thee accent, people can adopt and / or mimic an accent. Not sure why the police didn't figure this out.
@@vripp757 I thought additional DNA said it matched the father. I was getting angry that no one thought to compare to the husband's DNA before coming up with a stupid theory. How dense can they be?
@@vripp757 why wouldn't they get the full results of her DNA when they can? Mary's DNA matches mom and bio dad. DNA doesn't lie. The authorities do cause they can't stand being wrong. Arizona Mary is the real Mary. She looks exactly like the picture.
Couldn't they do DNA testing on the stamps and envelopes of the Circle ville letters?
Good question!
My thoughts exactly 😮
Probably did. Many people know the calorie count for licking a stamp or envelope.
If the individual in question has no DNA on file in the database law enforcement would still come up empty
It was 1977... they barely had computers back then I don't think DNA technology exists
I think the dogs were in the right spot but it was a different child buried there. The shoe they found was very small. And if I was Mary I would run away too. She was being severely abused for years.
That Mary Day story sure is something else. Totally unexpected that it could end up that way.
I saw it coming
@davidwoermansr what did you see coming?
@@ToniHunterOne what was totally unexpected
So someone tries to cross a swollen river and everyone else is blamed. If I choke on a peanut are you all going to blame the farmers?
The sheriff of Pickaway County at the time has the distinction of being the longest serving Sheriff in United States history.
The letters speak of a very jealous woman.
I concur.
Actually I was a victim of child abuse at a young age until my teens and I never wanted to be home. I ran away a lot also.
I'm sorry that happened to you, Melissa. NO ONE deserves that, period. God bless you, and I hope that you are doing well in your life. ~Laura in EU.
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I'm so sorry. If I were you neighbor you could've come to our house and we would have helped you. I hope you're doing okay. I'll keep you in my prayers.
Mary’s sister thought all this years Mary would still remember the code??? Heck I don’t even remember my TH-cam password and still need to check on my password file to look it up!
RIP Mary Day. Such a devastating life she had. Her own sisters don’t even believe her. Sad sad sad.
Mary Day had the same nose, downturned eyes, lip shape - everything. As an armchair detective, I’m sure that’s who she was.
yep. i'm shocked that people questioned her. that's the best facial match i've ever seen.
The left earlobe really stood out to me.
I was surprised she was doubted too! Looks like an older Mary, DNA matched. That story of another girl born & given up, being Mary, was crazy!
Thank you... she's exactly like the kid on the picture...
agree sir
The letters were written by Sue and her son.
then why did they stop when the dude died?
@@BoxingLegends2024because the dude died and they didn’t have any more reason to keep on going on those stupid letters.
Circleville: I think the letters came from someone in law enforcement or was being protected by someone in law enforcement. The level of incompetence in not finding the writer cant be genuine. Hundreds of letters over decades and continuing after a man was convicted. It doesn't seem possible the writers identity has never been found.
@@reallyseriously7020 Exactly! There seems to be a big missing piece to this puzzle.and It was frustrating. And no one has mentioned how odd it was that the woman that was targeted to be having the affair all that time, the bus driver, actually started having an affair with that man after her husbands suspicious death. What was the motive behind this lunatics obsession? Was he in love with the bus driver? Why did the son commit suicide. How were all those letters sent from prison. Were the post marks from the town the prison was in. You are right that something had to be going on for this not to be stopped sooner but maybe bc no DNA then?
When did the letters stop?
@@ell97918 I’m wondering that also. It would be interesting to know if now that the son and his dad are both dead, if the letters continued and if they continued after the son committed suicide and if they continued until the dad died. This case needs to be definitely solved. There was no way the dad could have sent hundreds of letters from prison but his fingerprints were found on some.
@@reallyseriously7020 Why do you think someone in LE?
And the post office wasn't able to track them? No cameras inside for who was mailing them?
I grew up in a town like Circleville. You would hardly ever see your neighbors but everyone would be up in your business
Sounds like where I live now😂😂
Fascinating stories...thank you for posting them...
Mary Day case was so sad. 😢
Poor doggie 😢 Thank God he was rescued! If you wanna be dumb, leave your pets home!
Bless that lovely rescuer who kept him. 🥹
The dad of the guy who died becase he got in a raft, alone, in rough waters without a life jacket needs to stop blaming anyone other than his stupid reckless son. He blames the others that were with him and the guy who buried the treasure. Sir none of those people are respodible for the decisions youd son mades that resulted in his death. Every single thing that caused his death was 💯 on him amd him alone
In the second episode did anyone else notice how odd the stepfather of Mary and his wife looked together? He looked young enough to be her son.
As long as they're of the age of consent I figure it's none of my business
I thought the same thing. I wonder what the age difference was b/w the two.
Not a loving or real relationship imo. Seems as if the stepfather was more interested in Mary than her mom. Some evil men will find a weak and dimwitted single mother who can be manipulated for easier and consistent access to abuse her children, or child in this case.
@@doonqui I think you are exactly right. And if the woman that died of cancer was indeed Mary, her mental illness spoke volumes of being abused.
Yes! I thought the same thing!
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@liMe-leMon yeah, but the auto-subtitles usually are off/slow/too fast...and that's if they have the right words at all! wish all videos had actual subtitles. i joke that my life is one big madlib, because im so hard of hearing. it's 2024, almost 2025, how is it not standard to have subtitles on every video??
The circleville letter writer being Paul makes a lot of sense. Dude idolized Mary and Tim's relationship so when Mary stepped out on Tim, he took it to heart.
Third story. You can't blame Fenn for what happens to people who willingly go and look for treasure. They are grown adults who can make their own decisions.
Paul couldn't have written the letters from prison because all incoming and outgoing mail is read
Such a strange story. I would love to hear from Paul's ex wife. She could tell us something about Paul's personality behind closed doors. Was it wildly different from his public persona? Or not?
His divorce was contentious and his son sided exclusively with his mother.
I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there is more to Paul than what's portrayed here.
Your suggested motive makes sense to me.
He could have written them in advance and had an accomplice mail them. You can't explain his fingerprints on the envelopes. @@davidwoermansr
@@davidwoermansr His fingerprints were on those letters though. How could they have ended up on there if he hadn't written them? Also, lets be real here, while all ingoing and outgoing mail *should* be read in prisons, we have so many examples of that not happening either because of laziness or making deals with prisoners.
@@dees2868 the first ones it wouldn't be hard to take a page off a legal pad on his desk and have his prints on it if they took enough the ones supposedly from prison could've been acquired before he was locked up he spent alot of his time in solitary and the mail is highly scrutinized there it's a short list of people who can write you and you can't write back you get 1 hr twice a week to use the phone you either give up rec time or 1 of your 3 showers that week to use it at least that's how it is in the 4 states I know inmates in
I moved to texas from New Jersey but grew up in Chicago. I have a texas twang, the words and expressions of speech. It's possible to get a accent after after 21, in my case 28.
The story of Mary Day reminds me if recent case of Amanda Overstreet who's parents never filed a missing report. 😢
A Southern accent is sooo easy to pick up. I spent a few months in Louisiana, and when I returned to the PNW everyone laughed that I had picked up a "Southern accent". It wasn't some big ol' drawl, it was pretty subtle and went away after a month or so back home. Later I married a man from Alabama. When he first moved to the PNW, he was barely understandable the accent was so thick. A few years later, it's a gentle lilt in his speech. But get him on the phone with his family still down South, and it comes roaring back lol. He even laughs and asked: "Did I sound that country back then?" Yup and yup! His Kentucky friend has a very slight barely noticeable hint of Southern after over 20 years out of the South. A road trip home, and he was twanging away lol. It gentled out after a few weeks and back to his normal speech.
It's super easy to pick up without realizing. There are some who never try to let it go easy and keep it strong no matter where they are. Seems like an affectation. I hear a deep Southern drawl/twang and they've lived here 16 years, that's on purpose. .
I’m 35 but I was always a life long fan of the show Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack, I believe that the circle ville case was on one of those episodes. Creepy as hell.
I think it's all BS
They sent the wrong man to prison for 10 years. Not creepy but crappy US "justice".
I don't blame Forest. Who do you blame when mountaineers die? Or anyone who has a high risk tolerance and seeks adventure. A certain percentage of people want adventure and it's not regardless of the risk it's BECAUSE of the risk. People like that help us see the and push the limits of humanity. They display courage. And it's not for us to stifle that si that we can enjoy them, fettered and stunted. We should celebrate them for those wonderful things about them are what makes us love them so. ❤️
Ppl like Eric, whose own father claimed suffered from histrionic personality disorder, which is the need to be recognized aren't the kind of ppl who need therapy. Their lack of emotional intelligence causes extremely immature, irrational thoughts & behaviors.
It's far from courageous, actually extremely dangerous. Especially for ppl who aren't able of differentiate the two.
Fenn treasure: It's like blaming Henry Ford for automobile deaths.
Hmm. I see your point... I'm conflicted on whether that is, in fact, the truth
The Mary Day story broke me into tears. I dont think it is clear if the sisters stayed with her until the end or may be she wanted to die alone. Once they confirmed she was the sister they so awaited to meet, I'd assume as riddled with cancer and she was that the family would unite. In any event a tragic story.
If you saw the Mary story as a TV show you'd probably think, like me, this would never happen in real life, it's just too far fetched.
In the Mary Day case it is hilarious to see how cops will twist and turn in outlandish ways rather than admit that their pet theory was wrong. Poor Mary, I don't believe the sisters would have found Mary so hard to believe if the cops hadn't treated her like an imposter from the get-go. I mean, give me a break, I spend 10 days somewhere and it changes my accent, and they think a twang trumps her DNA results?
School bus driver, she was gorgeous wow…. She would’ve been a model even by today standards.
If the Letters continued, why didn't they let Paul out of prison?
I believe that Phoenix Mary was Mary Day because of the eyes looking similar.
Paul definitely wasn’t sending them letters while in Solitare. Why would he Pre-Write letters to Mock himself and taunt himself while in Prison?
Well i don't underestimate people's craziness since I've seen what i have seen in my life.... the least you expect could the one.
People's greed and hunger for extreme adventure led to their deaths... It's very sad, but it shows people are driven by greed... People die all the time in extreme adventure type pursuits, I will never understand the risk they take... Life is way too precious to waste it falling off a mountain or freezing to death up there... Such a total waste of life, leaving people with empty broken hearts to live on without them.
12:10 I was just saying the same thing: “This sounds like an Agatha Christie novel!” Poison Pen letters are typically written by women. We need Miss Marple to solve this mystery.
The Moving Finger. A Jane Marple mystery.
One of the deepest Character Flaws of being human is to blame someone else for your own actions and bad decisions. In no way is Fenn responsible for those people's deaths...
Did anyone tried to find out where the paper sheets and the envelopes of the letters were bought from?
DNA on the stamps would be better
It was the son, Mark, who was a Mama's boy. His mother initially had her son write the letters, emulating his father's writing so that they could frame him and she could profit financially after he went to prison. Then Mark, feeling guilty, kept writing letters after his father was sentenced hoping to spring him from prison. Later, he killed himself because of guilt, after Dad was released. Edit: And to explain the fingerprints, the son had him touch papers before he was sent away. You have to consider how diabolical the perp was in order to pull this off!
But then, how do his fingerprints end up on those letters? You can mimic someone's writing style, but you can't exactly mimic their fingerprints
@@dees2868 His son set him up by having him touch envelopes or pieces of paper before he was sent to prison. You have to remember that the person who did this was extremely diabolical in his planning.
@@dees2868they just said he had him touch the papers prior to going to jail
I also don’t think it was Paul but how did Mark have access to so many different secrets??
Marks mom/Paul's ex wife was a nosey woman with nothing to do apparently & lived on the bus drivers property.
Wow that Letter writer really had to be very busy to know so much about so many people, or had a job where they heard all gossip! It wasn’t Paul F. The misspelling (which I notice first thing in everything I read) was very high & he was to educated to have that many misspelled words. Not saying educated people are great spellers, but Paul would not mess up certain words I saw. ALSO, when the letters suddenly stopped, why didn’t they check the deaths in that month & previous month in that town & where the letters were postmarked? Normally when something stops like this, that is usually the cause.🤔🤔🧐
Exactly, thank you! Maybe Paul could manage to write letters from jail but access all the latest gossip in town? From prison? I don’t think so…
Mar Day's mother......UGH!!!! Just no words that would no be blocked.
Remember our eyes never ever change as we grow.
Didn't they save any of the original Centerville letters and envelopes? Why couldn't they be tested for DNA?
I don’t think Paul did it.
I think it was his wife who did it- she might have used blank papers lying around the house that already had her husbands fingerprints on them- and then copied - forged her husband@s writing. I think when the son found out he had been deceived all his life by his mother, - that’s when the killed himself.
Did the letters stop after he died? 😇❤️🦋🇺🇸
My brother in law moved from California to Tennessee at age 18 but has a strong Southern accent after decades living there, so that is not unbelievable that someone can acquire an accent as an older teen.
I think phoenix Mary is Mary Day!
I was so excited for a Circleville update. It was my favorite story from OG Unsolved Mysteries. I felt so sorry for Paul Freshour and the taunts he received in prison. I thought he was a sympathetic victim of the letter writer. I didn't want it to be him. 😮
I feel like they owed that guy a lot of back pay for the time he served. Come on... How can the letters continue if he's in prison. You can't get away with much when you're in prison They practically read your letters before they're sent out. Why am I leaning towards the suicidal dude. Even with his age he could have been a teenager like that's a small town teenagers do crazy stuff like I don't know Just wondering if he killed us up cuz he felt bad about what he did to that Paul
@@redbonesweetE215did you miss the part where several of the letters had Paul’s DNA on them, even those sent while he was in prison? They snuck that in at the end
@@redbonesweetE215I worked in a prison & they read the INCOMING mail, not the outgoing, and even someone in solitary has a constitutional right to send uncensored & unscreened letters to any lawyer, federal, state & local officials, news organizations, etc. It would have been easier than you think
@@BalletTapJazzomggg so you think I'm feeling sorry for a guilty man?? But how could he do it? Through other prisoners? I absolutely abhor cases like this.... I'm gonna watch it again. Just because....
@@BalletTapJazz yeah you're right
Ughhh
So Mary Day was who she told she was? (Especially since she matched with her mother and her birth father).Sad.She found a lot of people who cared for her after her disappearance,but none believed her after reappearing.
Btw who died then?
I think they should tell where it was found so many can figure out if they came close to it. I agree tht Fenn should allow ppl to look for the treasure .....he gave ppl a dream. Any time one goes out in nature there are chances of falling, being attack, possibly freezing.....one needs to take the proper precautions. Should we stop ppl from hiking in the parks because some of them die????
Another tale confirming why life in a small Midwestern town constitutes a slow death from boredom, gossip, small-mindedness.
🤬 Poisoning a defenceless, helpless, innocent, vulnerable dog should be a automatic jail sentence
Hear hear!
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Love this episode. Of course it was Paul who was writing the letters. The handwriting expert knows what she's talking about...
Oh, this was a humdinger. Mary Day - both of them - deserve love and peace in their hereafter.
it makes me sad she didn't have a funeral, or a "send off" or anything?....considering what it sounds like she'd been thru, i think she deserved at least a proper send off!! but that's jus' me....
@@debisybesma5855 even if she wasn’t Mary Day. She was a lost soul.
Happy Leo survived and heartbreaking for Randy's family. R.I.P Randy🌈❤️
I don't blame Forest for the deaths. It's a pity that it happened, but these gentlemen were obviously not prepared, experienced, or careful. Unfortunately, that is on them.
The second case is crazy…
More normal than you think
I get people blaming Forrest but those people were old enough to stop. Fenn was an old man they should have not went on the depths. Poor Mary Day, she was never truly loved, rejected by her own sister.
Think about how many young kids this has happened too. Those poor family members that had to grieve, especially her sister. Those parents should be ashamed
It is evil.
The Mary day story is bizarre to the max, cos in both homes that family lived the dogs identified human death, but this will probably be a mystery that's never solved.
I think that man who created the treasure hunt is egotistical, loving all the adoration from the thrill seekers and not giving a damn about those who lost their lives or their families.
DNA doesn't fail and her accent doesn't mean anything...
OK what about the cadaver dogs alerting on the different places they lived in the backyard
Because, of course, "our dogs never lie".
Poor Paul...
What a story...
I love your tongue-in-cheek commentary on life today with the scourge of vicious narcissism that plagues society and actually takes a lot of us down for a long time, some forever. When we laugh hysterically, 🤣we know that you speak truth! Thank you for my daily laugh. Laughing helps reduce the stress of it all.
I'm uneducated. Explain your text in layman's speech.
You’re addressing this to 48 Hours? You get your daily laugh from 48 Hours?! Did you mean to comment this on a different video and channel?
It's a shame. Paul wasn't the one. Ex wife jealous of sister in law & Paul talked bad because his wife probably did. He was just echoing her. I think.
Saw that treasure chest story on some show on tv few months ago, I wouldn’t believe the host guy! I think it was a setup but if people want to do that, best wishes! I only was happy about the furrbaby! He didn’t choose to go!
Mary Day story is very strange,, but did her parents just let her walk away? Didn’t report or go find her, how awful. Sounds like a tough life for the girls. 🙏❤️
I still remember when my youghest daughter was 12 and did'nt come home from school. I tought i went crazy and after 3 hours if surching and calling whe called the police. They came in action right away. Luckely there was a miscommunicatiom. She had told me that she would go to a friend after school. And that morning she forgot her phone. I was so happy she came true the dore i huged her so tight. She did'nt understand what was going on. It was or i did'nt hear her or she tought she told me but did'nt. Did'nt matter to me she was home. ❤❤
Its major attraction is the annual pumpkin show. Wow, what a town
First time hearing about this and I’ve lived in the area forever.
He lacks a soul to allow this to go on after the first death. He’s a psychopath playing a game with people and enjoying it. Disgusting
How/Where did this “letter writer” gain such damning dirt? A bartender? Hotel worker? VERY CURIOUS STORY INDEED.
Small town gossip spreads quick
Someone jealous of Mary, (the wife of Jim and a school bus driver).
A woman??
Another school bus driver??
Or somebody smearing the principals life and livelihood because of jealousy??
Or a woman that had a romantic interest in him??
Handwriting can be copied by a spouse. A spouse or ex spouse has a unique position in knowledge & wanted to throw "experts" off. If he wrote the letters, he would try to change his writing.
God Bless 🌷🪻🙏🫂💙❤️💜🙏🫂
Sure, Fenn could've called the treasure hunt off. But that wouldn't have stopped ppl from hunting.
Ppl like Eric, whose own father claimed suffered from histrionic personality disorder, which is the need to be recognized aren't the kind of ppl you can talk sense into. They're mindset causes extremely irrational thoughts & behaviors.
Adding fearless & "obsessed" to that creates an unreasonable person who can't be stopped.
Amazing! All reporters would want to cover this weird story!
The first, Gillespie, one
I have to say, anyone, anywhere, who does anything, & suggests they personally, can't ever be wrong, & anyone who does exactly what they do, & if wrong, that's only because those people were flawed - - - but you're some magical human unicorn who can't be wrong, & couldn't even be tricked, I'd never use that person for literally anything again.
100% correct, well said !
I’m sorry the treasure hunters lost their life, but it was their choice to go out there into the wilderness and for what money glory
greed
Fenn created an adventure. The risks are evident. The Grand Canyon has not closed and many have been hurt and died. Many still tour Death Valley despite risks.
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Spoiler alert on the 1st story. There are no "twists or turns" in the first case. Every single piece of evidence and the only person to have anything to gain from it was the soon to be ex-wife, Karen Sue. She's absolutely the mastermind. Sickening that she got away with it, a true sociopath.
Karen Sue has her son's blood on her hands.
Most definitely
I wouldn't have called off the search if it was me he said don't go where an 80 year old man couldn't go so why were idiots going places where they couldn't go
In my forty three years of experience on this earth I find that people do really really dumb things.
Whoever wrote these letters was surely diabolical and I wonder if they ever tried to do a DNA of the stamps? Great story but very scary it gives one chills to think this person is this sick! Thanks for a good story!❤