Resawing Wood With A Bandsaw - Cocobolo Log
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2024
- Resawing wood with a bandsaw. In this video Rob resaws a huge hunk of cocobolo exotic wood that has been sitting around drying for 40 years, using his bandsaw. Rob resaws the cocobolo wood with a bandsaw to make 1 inch thick slabs for making his saw handles. Watch the resawing process with Rob and find out what beautiful grain is hidden inside the
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A Laguna ResawKing blade is by far the best option for resaw there is. Carbide tipped thin kerf and widths up to 1 1/4 .You can cut veneer with it. Set up a dedicated saw with a Resawking blade and smile every time you use it.
Love the plexiglass template idea!! Genius
I think so too, but it took me about 6 years of doing it with aluminum before I figured out to do plexiglass!!!
Hi from Costa Rica Rob! Cocobolo grows in our country and it's often used for small items and such. I myself have quite a few planks of it in my shop. Make sure to wash your hands and skin properly after working with it, it can cause some nasty dermatitis. Also, try french polishing it, you won't regret it! ;) -Fabian
Very nice piece of wood..
It sure is!, gorgeous. Got to love cocobolo
Clicked on , to see how you resaw. I have the laguna 20 in from 02, with a 1 1/4in resaw king blade it does an excellent job resawing all manner of very hard woods. We use a 5/8in blade on an older mini max s 45 that does a lot of general shop chores. That coco has some beautiful grain. Cheers an get well soon eh ?
Another excellent lesson Rob, really appreciate you taking the time to let us all tag along with you in your shop. I picked up some great pointers from this video! Thanks again Rob! Take care! :)
Thank you Andrew!
It's the little details throughout the video that add to the knowledge base. Really well done. The camera work in this was such that I forgot that Jake was there. I was just getting a good view of the proceedings.
I take it the magnet idea for the dovetails tool is old. That's what happens when you are a newbie, everything is new.
Wow, what a nice hunk of cocobolo.. That was really satisfying to see that piece resawed !
Thanks for sharing both your technique and thought process on resewing the cocobolo! Also, nice tip on keeping 1" MDF around for auxiliary fences.
Glad it was helpful!. What video should we do next?
Hi Rob,
I cut a lot of different Australian native hardwoods in my Sydney workshop. For my re-sawing I us a Wadkin C9 bandsaw that can,and occasionally does re-saw 500mm. The blade on that machine is a Lenox Woodmaster-CT 1” x 1.3 TPI. That blade has been on that machine now for three years in a commercial shop and is still cutting well. I also followed Michael Fortune’s advice on realignment of the saw table with the saw frame to eliminate drift. Works beautifully.
The saw blade has a kerf of around 2mm which will help save some of your precious Cocobolo. It was the most expensive blade I have ever purchased but has more than paid for itself. Do yourself a favour.
Kind regards,
Terry Gleeson.
How timely! I'm heading to Exotic Woods on Thursday. I was there last month and just finished a walnut box for my wife and a teak bench. Luther gave me the directions. Thanks!
Luther is Awesome....Did you meet Mel at Exotic Woods?
Wow that had some Awesome colour Rob:) TFS, GB :)
And we do love purple in this community! 💜
Beautiful piece of wood. Cocobolo is a favorite, but so expensive I've only used it for knife handles. Probably just my old bandsaw, (a rebuilt 16" walker turner, 12" height cap) but I discovered 2 things resawing with it. First, it would not properly tension a blade over 1/2" wide. The blade had to be able to twang like a guitar string to resaw well. Second, the rip fence had to be skewed to the angle the blade wanted to cut- not parallel to the crosscut groove. I saw freehand following a line on the workpiece until the necessary angle is found that cuts to that line. Then skew the fence to that angle. That angle is then good for that blade, but not necessarily for others.
Hi Rob thanks for an awesome channel great stuff you share. Im from south Africa will be a Canadian soon then we can have a beer.🥂
That is one heck of a BEAUTIFUL chunk of wood, Tell me, how many decades have you been holding on to that piece? I am guessing at least 15-20 years, right? you just don't see blocks that big anyway more especially with most of it now coming out of Mexico, I could be wrong.
Thanks Rob, and could that be used for plane handles and knobs? I've got a few old Stanley No. 5 and 6 planes that need replacement handles. I can't figure how to drill the mounting holes so I'm stalling.
I developed a mild allergy to walnut. It's my favorite wood and I have a lot of it I cut off the family farm. Built my son a bed while wearing a tyvek suit and a mask. Looked like the Pillsbury Dough-boy. My doctor, a fellow woodworker suggest taking Allegra. Works for me, I don't have to suit up anymore. It's OTC now and cheap, you might give it a try.
Funny story. Thanks for the tip. For me it's red oak, good thing I don't use it much.
i have a little smaller chunk of ironwood that i have been using for pen blanks that looks very similar. i love how the orange just pops out at you after the finish goes on. and i definitely noticed a difference in the editing. great job whoever did this video.
Thanks....I will pass that one to COL Luther and Frick they are the brains and muscle (respectively) of our edits
HI rob ur rite that cocobolo wood is so beautiful.
I won't sleep tonight thinking about that stunningly beautiful wood. Great work.
Hello from Qatar very nice wood I like the way you explaine thing step by step very nice keep going
Glad you liked it. How hot is it over there now? I am melting here in Canada but I suspect its even hotter over there
@@RobCosmanWoodworking very hot and humid even i would like to start milling some wood but cannot. I will take some picture of wood wr have some of them do not have name but very hard
I have been tempted to buy a carbide tipped bandsaw blade.10 times the price but 10 times the cutting life.Maybe worth it if re-sawing often.
Mark Piekos, Yeah carbide bandsaw blades are expensive, but take away the problem of blade drift if you do a lot of resawing. I would say you get 20 times the cutting life. Well ok, I don't really know exactly as I'm still on my first carbide blade and it's been a couple years now in use. Good luck.
Recently got a large bandsaw that will be the heart of my shop. I don't have a table saw. I need a good blade. Many swear by carbide. For my size saw a carbide blade will be about $250. Do you think it's worth it? If not, what would you recommend?
PS, I really enjoy the dovetail saw I ordered. Hoping to order another saw soon. Hope you feel better. God bless.
Hazem Bata, I put off getting a 1" carbide blade for so many years because of the price. If you only cut new wood so there is no chance of hitting nails, I would definitely go with the carbide blade. Good luck.
I once had about four pieces of Cocobolo that were mostly black with red, orange, yellow and purple running through it. I have never found another like it. Also, after 10 years of using it almost all the time I am now so allergic I react even to the dust on my skin. Watch out for exotics!
Look at Ammed's post about skin barriers
I love Cocobolo, I too am allergic and get bad reaction to the dust. When I do work with any exotic hardwood I have a protection suit, forced air face mask with HEPA filters. I look like I'm cooking Meth on Breaking Bad!!! There are products called skin barriers that does not allow the dusk to enter your pours on your skin. That's has helped me greatly! Great video Rob, Jake and Col. Luther!!! That block of Cocobolo is like a box of chocolets ya never what your going to get iniside it!
Skin barriers?? What is it made out of. When I was ignorant I did not wear a mask or take any precautions. Sawdust is nasty stuff
@@RobCosmanWoodworking I did commercial painting for a while, and would use a petroleum jelly on any skin exposed outside of my whites and face mask. If I were to use something now it would probably be an aloe based product. Web search on skin barriers for chemicals.
Would it help if you find the drift angle and turn your fence parallel to this angle? Thank you
good to see you using respirator, woodworking ismonly fun if you can breathe!
First video of yours, I love exotic-woods, I’m like a kid in a candy shop in there. Was not expecting you to drop that name or Burlington, you have a new subscriber today
I walked into a shared tool room years ago where a friend was sawing some cocobolo -- immediately started itching and breathing hard -- be very cautious with this wood as some of us are very allergic! I've never had a problem with other rosewoods I've sawn.
Nice!!! If you get the small saw done I will be ordering one with a wood handle!!!
I'm looking forward to this video!
did it meet your expectations?
@@RobCosmanWoodworking You did Rob, love when you show the exotic woods. I have been picking up small samples of many species. Some can be a real tough to get.
Starting my savings for a Cocobolo handled dovetail saw!
They are gorgeous
oh wow, when you poured the lacquer on, that wood is amazing 😮
Dont know if anyone gives a shit but if you're bored like me atm you can stream all the latest movies and series on InstaFlixxer. Have been binge watching with my gf during the lockdown =)
@Fox Wyatt Yea, I have been watching on InstaFlixxer for years myself =)
Hi Rob. I am a fairly new subscriber. I am from Australia and am currently working with (re-sawing, planning and sanding) a felled yard tree (Acacia melanoxlyon) or Tasmanian Blackwood as it is widely called. It will eventually be used variously, but immediately as a laminated workshop table top to place my newly acquired benchtop jointer. I made the mistake of doing some heavy sanding, nearly a week ago now, using a bench disc sander without a mask (even though I had a vacuum cleaner attached to the machine) and am only now getting back the use of my nose! I certainly had an strong allergic reaction to the dust in my nasal cavity! So, I make this comment to ask you and others (even though Google could probably provide a swift answer) - 'Why? Or, what's in some timber species to cause such an strong immune response?' This really really fascinates me. The "why's" and "wherefores" behind some of the "passing statements" you make on the channel get my curiosity aroused. Thanks for an excellent channel with excellent content!
Very beautiful!!!💜
its gorgeous wood
Omg! That saw handle is so beautiful! Wish I wasn't poor lol
Yes its pretty nice (here is a secret: It doesn't make the saw cut any better)
@@RobCosmanWoodworking hahahaha right, hell, id like to be able to afford a pine, Rob cosman saw!! I know they are worth every penny.... but maybe one day
What a beautiful piece of wood! Do you wax your bandsaw blade? I've been told it makes resawing much easier. I do very little resawing so I haven't tried it, yet.
Enjoy your posts - a lot of knowledge freely given. Many of your subscribers will have their school fees sharply reduced. A tip for resawing very hard wood that produces a fine sticky sawdust like cocobolo, is to both clean the wheel side of the blade (you may notice clumps of sawdust adhering and getting compressed onto the boade by the wheel) and lubricate the blade with a spraying or dripping of water. Both help clear the cut and assist the blade in tracking straighter. I cut large pieces f very hard interlocked and reversing grained old olive wood that was a headache until an old sawyer showed me how simple it can be with a sharp blade (with best rake angle and set for the hard wood). With a drip feed and keeping the inside surface of the blade clean I can saw 14" veneer panels at 1/32 - 1/16 quite easily. Try it and welcome to share results
Wow rob, that's great !! Where did you find this beautiful piece of cocobolo? I would like to buy one too...
Ive found a huge difference between a 3tpi blade and a 2 tpi blade when resawing. If i could find a 3/4" 2 tpi blade that would be my go to but currently can only find it in 1"
I can see that.
If you are determined enough, you can do it, though. You can buy a 4 TPI blade and then grind away every other tooth. Just make sure it's a 3 tooth set, left/right/raker. Some of the timberwolf blades are a 5 tooth pattern, but most wood bandsaw blades are 3 tooth set. When you grind out every other tooth of a 3 tooth set, you just flip it from a left/right/raker to a right/left/raker, and vice versa. (They are sold in either form, depending on the manufacturer).
You don't have to do anything to deepen the gullets or to alter the amount of set. Just having fewer teeth in there helps with the straightness (by reducing the minimum feed pressure, hence reducing twisting of the blade), even if the gullets aren't deeper. But you can also do those things to increase sawdust clearance.
Thick resaw of hard, dense woods, you also benefit greatly from positive rake angle on the teeth, i.e. hook tooth blades. The hook tooth keeps itself in the cut with lower feed pressure, so you don't bend the blade into a pretzel with the thrust bearings that far apart.
Beautiful hunk of wood~! I need a tenon saw to round out my 3, so I'll have to see if I can afford one with an exotic handle.
Very nice~!
Lacquer thinner poured onto Cocobolo = the money shot! Wow, that is gorgeous! Oddly enough, I was recently at a lumber yard in Montreal and the cost of a piece of cocobolo that measured 2" x 2" x 12" was about $54 before taxes! That block you have there must exceed $400! Regardless of the price, it is for your business, so money well spent! I am envious of the woods and tools in and your shop!
That is a lovely looking piece of wood. One day, I’ll feel comfortable enough in my skill to consider trying to use it. On a side note, which wood is easier to work with and more forgiving, walnut or mahogany? I ask, because one of the types of projects I want o build are military shadow boxes, especially for a brother that is retiring in 2 years, and wanted to make a special surprise for him.
I would go with walnut, cheaper too
Jake...do you know what brand dust mask your Dad is wearing in this video? It looks more comfortable than the ones we use. I was surprised that they weren't for sale on the site.
www.woodcraft.com/products/elipse-respirator-ov-p100-m-l
Here’s the mask
With helical cutter heads like the one in your jointer is it possible to tell which individual cutter has gone dull? I can see a chipped cutter being easy to find but I can't see how it would be easy to detect a single dull cutter.
It’s actually really easy. A quick scan only takes a minute to look over all of the chiclets/cutters, and if you can see a mark on your board it’s even easier to identify.
Beautiful piece of wood !!! I can’t wait to see those handles. Hope your Voice gets better .
I hope so too
i have a similar size piece of wandoo (Western Australian hardwood) with very similar properties to cocobolo. With a good sharp blade what is the minimum power bandsaw i can get away with? looking to re-saw for new plane totes.
I’d say minimum 1,5hp , but better go with 2HP or more if u can ...
very cool video Rob. so I got a newbie question about respirators for you.
what type of wood(s) is a must to wear a respirator.
what type of wood(s) less so.
what type of wood(s) doesn't much matter.
Thanks!
Hara Puzo, I think it depends on what you're allergic to. I get the feeling it's different for all of us. But I'm no doctor, just my best guess.
What types of wood?
ALL of the above especially MDF
Unless you keep a spare set of lungs in the bottom drawer cabinet.
A nice piece of wood Rob.
I have 3 of your saws from back when you were making the handles out of a plastic. Would have loved some birds eye maple handles...
Oh well. They still cut as good as the day I got them!
Ron
I think you mean Swanstoone. We have never made handles out of plastic. Saw still cuts great regardless what material the handle is made of!!!! I think after November I will have time to make a lot more Limited Edition saw handles
RobCosman.com
😊 I stand corrected Rob 😊
I don’t know that I ever knew what the material was called. Or maybe I just don’t remember. It was quite some time ago.
Stay safe up there and hope your voice recovers soon.
Ron
That's probably the prettiest piece of wood I've ever seen!!
Rob,
I truly enjoy your videos! Love the Cocobolo, and love the 20" General bandsaw. That barrel shaped cut screams "not enough tension"! I too keep a 1/2" blade on my saw, but I only use hard back or bimetal and I tension to between 23,000 and 26,000 psi. Yes, I have and use a tension gage, and yes, you could call me a bandsaw nerd LOL! I've never tried ~8-9" of cocobolo, but I have done 11" of osage orange (bodark or hedge) which is a pretty formidable wood and had no trouble (perfectly flat and straight cut) with a 1/2"-3 bimetal blade. Keep the videos coming--I've learned so much watching!
Bob
Is there a reason why you don't run the bulk side of the log against the fence so the piece you cut off is to the right hand side of the blade?
Why yes there is! The fence is determining the thickness of the piece being cut. If I didn’t do it this way I would have to move my fence every time I made a cut.
Great video as usual! Question, at 8:14 when you’re describing the segmented cutter head in the jointer it looks like the carbide insert closest to the operator side of the machine is maybe not oriented the same as the other inserts...is this intentional?
Yes I see how it looks but that is the way its designed. The cutter is indexed correctly!
It's designed that way, for when doing rabbet cuts on the jointer.
I went through a few problems with resawing. I got tired of blade drift. You waste a lot of material at the jointer. I have set up one saw that I use for resawing only. It has a one inch carbide blade. Yes, they are expensive and you can't even get them resharpened, but it's just like going to carbide on your jointer, you never will look back. The tools you make are beautiful. Thanks for the video.
Go for a resaw king if yours ever dulls. They can be re sharpened 4 times
@@davo7512 Thanks, I think I will give one a try.
@@tomruth9487 it’s not cheap though and if you have any issues with it email laguna, they have great customer service. I had an issue with the weld and they sent another resaw king plus another free blade called the shear force
Rob, how do you go about making your plexiglass templates? Thanks.
Just like you would make any other wooden templates
I once heard an old woodturner say "There are two types of people in the world. Those who are allergic to Cocobolo and those who will be."
Precisely
My biggest Allergies with Cocobolo is its price, I almost always faint when I see the bill, I can't speak for everyone, Lilac wood dust causes a pretty severe reaction to me.
@@patprop74 hey, me too! I was at the wood shop the other day and I saw some fine cocobolo and when I got to the register I had a severe reaction. My wife has an allergy to cocobolo and other high end wood because it seems like everytime I return home and she sees the wood I bought her allergy flares up. She show several symptoms but the most pronounced is extreme irritability
Her allergy usually clears up when I make something nice for her out of the wood
When he says cocobolo dust is deadly to some people was he just sorta exaggerating or is it actually deadly to some people? I'm sure I can Google it and look it up but....
The moment after the laquer - wow !!!!! I'm not allergic to cocobolo, as far as I know. I'm blessed with being allergic to 14 other species of wood, such as maple, oak, walnut, pine. lol All the typical stuff "hangin' around the shop". I'll have to find a piece like this and get a scratch form it to check it out :)
Oh wow! Do you know the source of your wood allergies? what a bummer to be allergic to the core North American Species
@@RobCosmanWoodworking no idea, it's something I developed while living here in the northeast. I didn't grow up around here. so living here got me exposed to all those species and apparently made me allergic to them.
What’s a block that size cost? I used to buy little knife scales from it and it was super high
This block was $240
Hi Rob, it looks like one of you jointer inserts isn't set properly (end furthest from the fence).
It's actually designed that way. For when you do rabbet cuts.
I want a marking gauge with that wood. I think I looked on the website and it said out of stock. Correct?
Douglas Dolter for now, Doug, but another will take its place very soon!
Is it taboo to fix a check with epoxy?
Fine for table tops, but for something that is going to need to withstand some degree of abuse like a tool handle it would introduce the possibility of a weekend structure if the check was not perfectly filled to its core
What John said.
Cocobolo is a fantastic wood, Faberge used it to make some of his "eggs". I imagine it falls under CITES now.
You said Robertson screws instead of #2 Square.... I assume you must be Canadian lol
Actually Robertson screws and Square drive are not the same, there is a difference in the slope of the walls, eh!!!! Got to get eat some maple syrup now....then its off to hockey
@@RobCosmanWoodworking you got it. I'm gonna go play some "football", grill up some steaks, and shoot my AK-47.
After few years or even a few months it turns very dark at least without a finish
Vendo cocobolo soy de honduras
How expensive is very expensive?
What do you mean...The hunk of cocobolo?
@@RobCosmanWoodworking Yes, what did that chunk cost you?
$250
with all the tropical exotics... you know they just burn most of it? ...either as firewood or just to get rid of it. The export market is some tiny percentage of the total amount of lumber harvested.
I did not know that. So sad.
@@RobCosmanWoodworking I don't actually know that to be the case 100%; but I was buying kind of a lot of Jatoba from my local mill and said something about feeling guilty because it was a tropical hardwood. I'd never thought about exotics when I first got into woodworking but I was buying more and thinking about a business model and thought customers probably would have a problem with "cutting down the rainforest" if I were ever really pressed on it... Maybe it was just to make me feel better, but they pointed to a newspaper or magazine article talking about how most of it is just clear cut... Yeah, its terrible.
There is a guy in NC; Brian Boggs; much of the lumber he sources is exotic; but he has established relationships with local villages and consults with them on when the right time to harvest a particular tree is. At least from what he says on his factory tours is that he'll make a trip or two to Honduras each year, pick a few trees; tell them how he wants it milled and the village directly benefits. Something about that seemed more wholesome to me.
brianboggschairmakers.com/
@@RobCosmanWoodworking not to be morbid. I just saw that cocobolo log in this video and thought to myself, "if that were maple or ash I wouldn't think twice about chucking it in the fire pit" and made me remember that. Woodworking has just kind of given me an appreciation of where the raw material comes from. I find myself sizing up trees when they come down in my area.
James Oxford, this makes sense to me. I'm always aware that when I use exotics that I use them with respect. To make tool handles with them is a good use and really such a small percentage of what is lost or used as firewood.
“I trade all my money for pretty wood” same. Except I just hoard it, my projects aren’t worthy of using the good stuff.
Every time I approach a piece of lumber to be cut in slices I face two situations: the excitement of discovering what I can get out of that tree, and the embarassment of being ignorant about how it should be done (I mean to understand how to obtain the best grain for the job, and best looking). I also cut some lumber stolen from the fireplace to make some practice... At the end it's like when I watch a rock wall, and try to create the best climbing route to bolt: it's creative and exciting and travelling incognito...
Will you be delivering to the US again anytime soon?
We’ve never stopped
@@RobCosmanWoodworking I think I see what it is, just the Woodriver planes?
That’s correct
I'm sure you're asked this repeatedly but is your voice ok? It's sounded hoarse off and on for months.
You make me want to quit my day job!
Always looking for help in my shop.
Let's play THE PRICE IS RIGHT
Guessing 12" x 12" x20" = 20 Board Feet @ $70.00 = $1,400.00 ..... ..... WHAT?!
Say I'm wrong
Rob,
I’m concerned about you voice. Time to rest it.
I have not been talking for 2 days now
@@RobCosmanWoodworking Take care of yourself. I have a friend that sings for a living, she has to not talk at all when she works a lot of gigs.
They just don't build machines like that anymore.
Oh they build some even better, they just cost you ur first born lol
Nope. Thats why I always buy old used machines
I will tell you one thing you will pay for that wood if you get it.
Rob STOP 40 year old chunk of Cocobola change the blade.
Rob, I know you are very busy, but I'm a musician, and you gotta stop talking so much, buddy. . . you will damage your voice permanantly., I have seen it before . . Every time I have heard you recently , you have almost no voice. The only solution is to talk less, sorry to say. Please consider it, we need you fit and healthy . . .lol