Choosing the Right Jack Plane for YOU

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  • Choosing the right Jack Plane. In this video Rob Cosman helps you decide which is the best jack plane for YOU, a #5, #5-1/2, or a #6. Make sure you watch this video BEFORE you buy a jack plane
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  • @Flightdevildoc
    @Flightdevildoc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Rob, thank you so much for helping those who have served this great country of ours. As a recent retired vet from military service and in the process of figuring out what to do as a hobby, in place of being in the field with my Marines and Sailors which I missed a lot, accidently, I started woodworking as a hobby and I love it (should have started years ago). The satisfaction of working on wood, creating something that is unique and yours, even when mistakes are made, then corrected, is an awesome feeling and indeed peaceful. In this relaxing activity, you can't rush things, as it may produce undesirable outcomes or worse, injured yourself. So in a way, it almost feels like this hobby forces the individual to be patient. I am 6'4", 200 lbs, beginner woodworking, I wonder if I should get (my first plane ever) , the 5 1/2 or 6 as I tried the 4" at a local hardware store and my hands were to big for that handle. What are your thoughts? I am so glad that I found your videos while searching on plane basic info, just became a subscriber and will definitely watch all you prior videos. Wow, I thought my many years of schooling were over...now I am what I called a TH-cam University (YTBU) freshman..woodworking major.😆 Semper Fi.

  • @watermain48
    @watermain48 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative. Thanks for a great video Rob. Once again, thanks for helping so many of my veteran brothers.

  • @andrewbrimmer1797
    @andrewbrimmer1797 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watch many of your videos more than once. I find more each time I do. Thanks Rob.

  • @lynxg4641
    @lynxg4641 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video helped push me to get a No.5 1/2 and I DO NOT regret it one bit, definitely is the best plane if you can only have one/afford one. I started with an old No.4 Record, tuned it up as best as I could, Rob's videos on sharpening helped immensely, but as he says, it was always hard to register when starting a cut and it would easily follow the undulations in the wood when trying to flatten. I was a bit worried about the weight, but honestly, to me, it's only a positive, no negative IMHO. As Rob says, if you're a woman or smaller person, then maybe get the No.5, but definitely don't get the No.4, that extra length in the toe really helps to register and get the plane started.
    Next "plane" I'll be buying a is a Large Router Plane for cutting/fixing tenon shoulders etc., and then maybe a Rabbet Block Plane.

  • @stephentsun8560
    @stephentsun8560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Luv your videos, so informative. Finally learned how to freehand sharpen and now my cheap stanley 4 1/2 Bailey plane performs like a dream, in saying that I listened to your advice and purchased a 5 1/2 Luban plane( made by the same company as Woodriver as down in Australia it's rather hard to get a Woodriver plane). I tuned it up following everything you said and it works like a dream, super thin shavings. Keep up the great videos Rob.

  • @jdmccorful
    @jdmccorful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your videos on dove tailing are the best. Thanks!!!! Couldn't of asked for a better instructor. BTW, when I shut down my shop, I kept my 5.5 and still use it for most any repairs, had a complete set of LN.

  • @velcromittens4502
    @velcromittens4502 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If we only look at weight to width, you only add 15.5% weight to get 19% more width. Sounds like a win choosing the #5-1/2 over the #5. The added width, length and weight for stability are just bonuses. Thank you for your content.

  • @alanchappell414
    @alanchappell414 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That is the bedtime presentation i have seen regarding figured wood. Our Australian timber us notoriously hard to plane so I’ll try this tomorrow 👍👍👌👌

  • @GARDENER42
    @GARDENER42 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think many of us here in the UK have #4 planes, as that's the size we used in woodwork classes at school.
    Clearly, as full grown adults, we can handle a significantly larger plane than that.
    I have bench planes from #1 to #7 in my 'collection' but the only ones I use regularly are a 4½, two #5½s (one Stanley, one Record; can't tell them apart with thicker irons installed) & a #7.
    The #5½ is by far the most used.

  • @ls5811
    @ls5811 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well, shiver me timbers. I finally made a decision on either a cheap jointer or an expensive hand plane. I bought the hand plane. Bought a Lie-Nielsen #5. Sure wish I saw this first. But then I'm not that strong or big, so maybe it'll work out for me. Sure glad I ran into your video's.

  • @andrevanopstal2143
    @andrevanopstal2143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have had the Woodriver # 5 1/2 for several months now. Since then I have used it on every woodworking project. It is a real pleasure to work with. The first project was of course a shooting board which I could not miss anymore in combination with my # 5 1/2.

  • @usnchief1339
    @usnchief1339 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love my 4 1/2 and 5 1/2 planes! I don't feel sop bad having so many after seeing your family of planes. Thanks Rob!

  • @adrianorosa8423
    @adrianorosa8423 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well explained.
    On the east side of the lake, at latitude 40ºN, 008ºW.
    Thanks.

  • @stuartnurse9390
    @stuartnurse9390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another enjoyable and informative video - thanks for all you do

  • @joellefougere1322
    @joellefougere1322 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Rob!

  • @hassanal-mosawi4235
    @hassanal-mosawi4235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing those tips!

  • @johnearley9924
    @johnearley9924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the #1, 2, 3, 4, 4 1/2, 5, 5 1/2, 6 and 7 planes. For the last 30 years the 5 1/2 Bedrock has been my go to plane.

  • @andrewbrimmer1797
    @andrewbrimmer1797 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great lesson

  • @MrAtfenn
    @MrAtfenn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i got my cosman crosscut saw last week to go with the cosman dovetail saw that ive had a while and i cant seem to put them down this week. i also love my 5 1/2 woodriver that i purchased on your recomendation. cant wait to pick up a 4 1/2 next!

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thnaks.....I would go with a #7 over the 4-1/2/ Your 5-1/2 will do almost everything a 4-1/2 will do

  • @lewisway6811
    @lewisway6811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for all the good info.

  • @tommanseau6277
    @tommanseau6277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got a 5 1/2 years ago after one of Rob's demonstrations. It was actually the unit used by Rob for the demonstration. It has been my go to ever since. I have others including a handed down #6. But the one I end up reaching for consistently is the 5 1/2. I end up having different blades for different purposes (cambered, non cambered, will get another for higher pitch). I also really appreciate the ability of having a 2 3/8 blade to swap between different sizes without a hitch between a 4 1/2, 5 1/2, & 6.

  • @robbarmore6857
    @robbarmore6857 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful. Thank you.

  • @Bradkurily
    @Bradkurily 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thankyou rob great video.

  • @murphymmc
    @murphymmc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When I first started the adventure into dovetails, I was watching the older, English gent. His years of experience lent some "street cred". He advocates #5 Stanley planes, poo-pooing the added weight of the 5-1/2 and the other manufacturers. As a newbie to hand planing I heeded his advice and purchased some used planes online, learned to tune and fettle said planes and they were okay, just not what I expected. Then I discovered your channel and learned. I now have the WoodRiver 5-1/2, a 16,000 grit stone, a much improved technique for dovetails. I fully agree with your assessment of the plane usage. The other guy is a fine craftsman and one can learn much, you have a happy blend of power tool, hand tool application and you appear to have the best explanations of why you do things as you do. Thanks Rob for sharing your methods and skills, plus, the PHP is stellar.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Our mission is PHP, a labor of true love. Its very hard to convince many folks of what you learned. There is so much wrong stuff on you tube. Glad you found us and glad you commented

    • @mikestewart505
      @mikestewart505 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love the old English gent, but tend to agree more (about tools) with the middle-aged Canadian. Still watch both, because until I can afford better tools, I'm trying to make up for it with attitude.

  • @davidpisarski5620
    @davidpisarski5620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I added the Lie Nielson 5-1/2 to my plane inventory based on your recommendations. It is by far the plane I use the most. I was lucky and got it before all the shortages.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good for you, yes its a great plane. So glad it worked for you

  • @dennissouba1432
    @dennissouba1432 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like the explanation, makes it simple to understand

  • @tomjudkins3799
    @tomjudkins3799 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A #6 has been my go to plane for the past 20 years, and I'm happy to see it get some respect in your comments!
    I'm a 6'6" former defenseman, and the #4 always felt too tiny in my hands. I like the #6 for just about everything from jointing small boards to flattening table tops to final smoothing.
    I like that you used to find them very cheap as well because a lot of folks passed them over as "too big".

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you are correct. And I would say they can joint bigger than small boards!

  • @SweSuf
    @SweSuf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "You are still going to need a jointer." I hear you loud and clear! 🤗

  • @benjaminadair9548
    @benjaminadair9548 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One more time. GREAT JOB
    Waiting on Woodcraft to get the 5.5 in I have a stanley #5 and #7 my 5 is my go to & 7 on my shooting board. Keep the videos coming i suggest to my men to watch them thanks again

  • @randyridley2838
    @randyridley2838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very excited to get my Lie-Neilsen 5-1/2 today. Thank you rob for all your informative videos and workshops!

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you for watching and commenting

    • @chm1701
      @chm1701 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How have you got on, Randy? I’m a huge Lie-Nielsen fan and this is on my “to buy” list.

    • @randyridley2838
      @randyridley2838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chm1701 It's a learning curve. heavier than I expected, but nice. The only planes I had used before were a couple of hand-me-down Stanley's (Bailey style) that were pretty cheap and crude. This thing is sweet in comparison.

  • @michaelpatrick6950
    @michaelpatrick6950 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I inherited about half of my planes from my grandfather who used them as a millwright in the Indiana coal mines. So they needed a lot of attention to get them suited for woodworking. I do have a new low angle block and a new shoulder plane. A few years ago I picked up a 5 1/2 Bailey that probably dates to around WW II at a thrift store. It was very rusted but not pitted. I took it apart and brought to good enough condition that my local woodworking shop complimented me on its condition. I recently gave up on the old blade which appeared to have some soft spots in it making it impossible to keep a square edge. With a new blade I finally have a device that works like the guys' in all of these videos. It seems to miraculously find its way out of the drawer into my hand for almost every job.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wonderfulstory. If you follow my videosyou know how much I advocate that the best thing you can do for an older plane is add a modern high quality, thick blade to it

  • @ismanismun5736
    @ismanismun5736 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you sir.👍

  • @2112kustoms.
    @2112kustoms. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the WR #7 its fantastic, is the absolute smoothest to adjust of ever plane i own, very easy handle and great results. I prefer it on the shooting board for that weight, get moving and it almost does the rest. Probably never would need a Lie Nielsen #8 But I Really Want One!!

  • @53JolietJake
    @53JolietJake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I went this past Sunday to my local Woodcraft store to purchase a 5 1/2 Wood river plane as a birthday present from my wife. They had none in stock. So, I asked when they thought they would be getting some in. The store clerk checked with the Woodcraft warehouse and he said that there was 3300 5 1/2 's on backorder. If I wanted one I had to pay for it so they could order it. With 3300 ahead of me. I probably wouldn't see that plane for 2 plus years. Wake up Woodcraft corporate!!! Whomever is making Wood river planes for Woodcraft needs to get going.
    I didn't buy anything. They did have a No.6 maybe I will go back and get that I have a No.4 already.
    I guess go news for you Rob. The crew out here is listening to you.
    Always enjoy your videos.

    • @alimaleki217
      @alimaleki217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Their website is showing end of July availability but I would take that with a grain of salt. My local Woodcraft is out of stock on many items. I’m sure Chinese supply chain is a big contributor.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont know what the cause of th ebig delay is. Demand outstrippedproduction? is there shipping issues? I wish I knew what was happening

    • @RonDavidowicz
      @RonDavidowicz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe they're on the Evers Given in the middle of the Suez Canal, you may need to wait a couple of years to get them.

  • @harryg3889
    @harryg3889 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bought one of your dovetail saws from Woodcraft. It took them 8 weeks to get it. 6 weeks to get the wrong saw then two weeks later the right saw. Didn’t use it for several weeks then took it to the shop. Followed your instructions of barely holding on to the saw. Had a little difficulty starting the cut because I kept pulling to start. Old habits hard to change. So, I was flabbergasted, once the cut was 1/4 inch into the wood it tracked straight. After that it was just making sure I didn’t cut past my mark which, dang it, I did😬. I’ve been using Japanese saws for 30 years and always had trouble with wandering kerf. Not now.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes that is what Japanese saws do. Next time order straight from our website and you will get the saw much faster

  • @jwd888
    @jwd888 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    super information, cheers

  • @bigal6667
    @bigal6667 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I been using his sharpening method for a month and boy it works. My Stanley is cutting better than ever.

  • @wrodrigues08
    @wrodrigues08 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent explanation....

  • @darrenwolfe1660
    @darrenwolfe1660 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would agree on the 5 1/2. It’s my do most everything plane. Just need to get me some adjustars!

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me to.My 5-1/2 is my go to plane. we have adjustars waiting for you

  • @738polarbear
    @738polarbear 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought the Wood River, yes I know it's Chinese , based on Rob's advice . It is a wonderful plane .

  • @kapmaw2
    @kapmaw2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is a really nice looking shooting board, too, by the way :)

  • @benjaminadair9548
    @benjaminadair9548 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for replying.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I try to always reply in the first 48 hours after posting a video

  • @keats182
    @keats182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought I made my boards flat with a 5 1/2. I had a consistent shaving across the entire board. Then I bought a number 8 at an auction and used that for the first time. I made very shallow cuts and was amazed that it actually skipped on the first couple passes before I started getting continuous shavings.
    All that said, the 5 1/2 or 6 are still my go to planes. I love the wider blades. They're Woodriver planes and I have no complaints. The blades are not A2 tool steel, but they still hold an edge about as long as the A2 tools steel blades. Not sure if anyone else finds this, but it seems like planing end grain on a shooting board dulls the edge faster than anything else.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes the longer the plane the flatter the board, I agree with all your other comments. Thanks for watching

  • @gaz1967
    @gaz1967 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use numbers 4, 5 and a block plane for the majority of work, number 6 on the shooting board.
    Good old number 7 jointer for edging.

  • @red58impala
    @red58impala 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good info as always Rob. Much appreciated.
    I have two Bailey 5 1/2 planes. One has the 2 1/4" blade and the other the 2 3/8" blade. The one with the 2 3/8" blade does not have the smooth frog face like the older one with the narrower blade. All things being equal (condition, sole flatness, etc...) would you use the one with the narrower or wider blade?

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sounds like someone somewhere switch out a bedrock frog fora baily frog. The issue with the 2-1/4 blade is try to find a modern thick blade in that size its hard. The very best thing you can do is put a modern blade in the plane. I guess I would keep the 2-3/8, make sure the frog face is dead flat (Sanding paper on a know flat surface) and get a modern 2-3/8 blade.

  • @emersonassis7154
    @emersonassis7154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Rob one more time a very usefull video.Please a question.If I already have a Stanley #6 I can use the same size of your shooting board or I must to make it little longer?.Thanks for all help.

  • @theeddorian
    @theeddorian 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like my No. 6, I use it pretty much just as you describe. I find it does as good a job jointing as I need except for some very long pieces where the mass of the jointer made a difference in running the shaving farther. One unusual task is taking really thin shavings of end grain for microscope slides. A sharp No. 6 lifts off perfect shavings, especially with a little alcohol applied to the wood.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup the # 6 is a great plane

    • @bigredracingdog466
      @bigredracingdog466 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another nice thing about the #6 is that they can be had for reasonable prices.

  • @TeamProsperity
    @TeamProsperity 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Rob as usual, great video, very informative. I purchase the WoodRiver Ultimate Bench Plane kit from Woodcraft awhile back consists of a #3, #4, #5, #6 I like the #6 pretty well. What block plane would you recommend Rob? Thanks

  • @jasonsocquet8555
    @jasonsocquet8555 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to completely agree with you on that. :) The tote & knob on the Woodriver planes have a matte finish when new.. did you wax them when new to give them a little protection or did they become shiny after using them for a while?

    • @alimaleki217
      @alimaleki217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s funny I was thinking the same thing! I think it’s from use.

  • @alimaleki217
    @alimaleki217 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who didn’t see that coming; Rob is inseparable from the 5 1/2! I love that he doesn’t do the stupid things many others do like lifting the plane at the end of the stroke and storing the plane on its side!

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dolove the 5-1/2 but I told everyone that was my bias. I agree with you on lifting th epalne and putting it on its side

  • @danthechippie4439
    @danthechippie4439 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative. I understand that you work closely with woodriver in developing and improving their planes. Have you concidered producing other planes besides the standard bench ones such as plow planes or tounge and groove planes.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They hired me to help them with their bench planes. I am not a employee of WoodCraft and I have no say so in what planes thay choose tomake. Case in point I recommend they make a scrub plane, but alas they have no scrub plane

    • @danthechippie4439
      @danthechippie4439 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobCosmanWoodworking hi Rob, no offence was meant.
      I didn't mean to suggest that you are employed by them, I know they consult with you to improve their product.

  • @rolandmohler2695
    @rolandmohler2695 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The reason I use a 5 is that it was my great grandfather's. This plane just speaks to me.

  • @venkataraghavansolium5423
    @venkataraghavansolium5423 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Rob for a very informative video for beginners like me. I have a No4 plane. Which one should I add now? No 5 1/2 or No 6? Which one do you recommend

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      5-1/2 is my preferred, but hard to get now. I don’t think you need a 5-1/2 and a 6 choose one or the other. 6 is easier to find right now so it depends on what you can find

  • @andrewbrown8148
    @andrewbrown8148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great info, Rob~! I love my Woodriver 5 1/2. I'm looking at eventually picking up a jointer plane. I take it that you would recommend a #7 instead of a #6 since I have a 5 1/2 already?
    Thanks much~!

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, absolutely

    • @andrewbrown8148
      @andrewbrown8148 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobCosmanWoodworking Excellent~! I'll of course have to pick up the plane at Woodcraft since I'm in the US, but I'm coming to you for IBC blades~! :-)
      Thank you~!

  • @matthewlebo482
    @matthewlebo482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super excited to get my 5-1/2 from woodcraft. Ordered it in December. Should ship in July. Yep you heard me right. 7 month delivery :) assuming it doesn’t get pushed out again… for the third time…

    • @randyridley2838
      @randyridley2838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just happened to log onto Lie-Nielsens site earlier this week and saw that they had 5-1/2 in stock. Ordered one and three hours later they were out of stock. they shipped it the same day I ordered it.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We feel your pain. Thats why we dont quote an estimated delivery time

    • @matthewlebo482
      @matthewlebo482 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was on the lie Nielsen waitlist for the 5-1/2 as well and never got an email saying they were back in stock so you got lucky! I’ll keep checking the website so great suggestion. Thanks!

  • @JamesSmith-su3oz
    @JamesSmith-su3oz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So I was playing on a 2.5 x 2.5" x 5' old red oak and was using my #5 then my #7 and my #6. Out of all of them the #6 was best. Th #5 did not have the mass, the #7 was hard to control on a long push but good old #6 was a dream .

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup....Thats my experience too. I think you would have also liked th 5-1/2

  • @sebastienbelanger8918
    @sebastienbelanger8918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would add a pro for the #5. When you are tight on budget, it is very easy to find inexpensive old Stanley #5 in really good shape compared to 5-1/2" that are rare and often as expensive as a brand new premium plane.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True, but by the time you tune it up, if you add an after market modern plane iron, which I highly recommend, you are at about 75% of a new plane. So its a tough decision

    • @sebastienbelanger8918
      @sebastienbelanger8918 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobCosmanWoodworking right. But I've been lucky finding a Miller Falls #14 (equivalent of a number 5) in perfect condition for 20$. It's a thin blade but for the price it work pretty good.

  • @1deerndingo
    @1deerndingo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the honesty of your approach. If you were all about selling your goods then you could give all sorts of reasons why the novice wood worker needs every plane in the range, but you don't. You try and save the novice a heap of money by providing your years of experience, free of charge, to guide them in what they really need. There is surely good karma in that.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope so....

    • @1deerndingo
      @1deerndingo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobCosmanWoodworking That sound like you think you'll need it. I don't think so. You seem to have devoted your life to doing the right thing. I think you've got a fair bit of credit on the ledger already stowed away.

  • @mr.shellcracker9161
    @mr.shellcracker9161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rob, I'll never feel secure with my no 5 now :)

  • @ronhau1542
    @ronhau1542 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rob what is the smallest Lie Nielson bench plane you’d consider purchasing?

  • @contessa.adella
    @contessa.adella ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have power tool, incl power planer….but thinking it might be more convenient and faster to peel off an odd millimeter with a small hand plane…maybe a Stanley #4….might even make myself a shooting board. Power tools can be overkill at times…and you can’t (easily) add wood back huh!

  • @Quagmire88
    @Quagmire88 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have had the Woodriver 4, 5 1/2, and a 6. I haven't had any need for anything else. Great information!

  • @farmerjohn8726
    @farmerjohn8726 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great summary! If you had two of every plane, which one would you choose to repurpose as a scrub plane? Thanks! Farmer John, Ontario, Canada

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably the 4.

    • @dylanneely91
      @dylanneely91 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh man you just gave me a great idea, a 5 1/4 would ROCK for a foreplane.
      Its heavy and narrow enough to use all of a camber with the corners of the blade 1/16" back from the center (no idea what radius that gives) narrow so that the scallops don't cause TOO much headache with tip in. And long enough (but not too long) to hand-hold the flatening process a little bit.
      Yeah yeah not a mountain dew and protein shake powered thicknesser but a neat thought.
      On topic: My favorite scrub is a #3 it can CHEW through 1/2" of wide board face at an absolutely obsciene rate, my #4 just can't match it for full width depth of cut.

  • @frankstalteri972
    @frankstalteri972 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video. Just wondering, if you already have the number 5, is the jump worth spending on the 5 and half and shelving the 5?

  • @alimaleki217
    @alimaleki217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rob’s advice is invaluable as usual! The question is should you buy the WoodRiver 5 1/2 or pay the $105 premium for a Lie-Nielsen? The #7 has a $75 premium.

    • @kbarker3606
      @kbarker3606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A couple of months ago, I bought a few of the #6 Wood River planes and have not been disappointed. Elsewhere, Rob has a video on how to ‘Cosmanize’ them that is very helpful. I can’t think of a reason to spend more on a L-N, unless one wants to avoid the simple and easy process of ‘Cosmanizing’.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      it is a delimma.

    • @justinsane332
      @justinsane332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well, I can tell you that my most hated bench plane is my WR. the lever cap spring came deformed, the screw that provides the lever cap pressure when engaged was poorly machine and causes my lever cap to move no matter how loose or tight, neither sides are 90 degrees making it hard to shoot with, and my frog loosens periodically making it hard to set the lateral adjustment on the plane. This i just discovered happening, after using the plane for about two years, and so its gaining frustrations. its the plane i hate the most. alternatively, I have never had any issue with my veritas or LN planes, nor any of my old stanleys that i have restored. So just a heads up from an honest experience.

  • @myyoutubepage1
    @myyoutubepage1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any thoughts on western wooden planes for fulfilling any of the jobs of any of the metal planes?

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I prefer metal over wood. Wood moves and they dont have as fine of an adjustment as metal planes in my oppinon

  • @jonathandavies3288
    @jonathandavies3288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the vid, Rob. Like you I am a 5½ fan. I got suckered in to replacing my trusty Stanley Jack with a Veritas low angle as bout two years ago and I hated it. I treated my Stanley to a new Hock blade and am now happy again.
    What do you think of the purpose made shooting board planes the Veritas and Lie Neilsen make? Would you be tempted by one, or would you support Woodriver making such a plane?

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      my bench is too crowded for a single purpose plane, hence the reason I like the 5 1/2, does everything.

    • @tomjudkins3799
      @tomjudkins3799 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What did you do to the hock blade to get it working with the Stanley?

    • @jonathandavies3288
      @jonathandavies3288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tomjudkins3799 Because the Hock blade is thicker than the Stanley, you have to adjust the frog position back towards the handle to allow the blade to seat properly and be able to produce through the sole throat.

  • @ErnieSesameStreet
    @ErnieSesameStreet หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can a no.4 smooth plane work well similar to a no.5 jack plane. Thank you

  • @rjtumble
    @rjtumble 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now we just need wood river to get more produced so I can buy one. Otherwise, I'm going to have to wait until I get to your class so I can buy one while I'm there.

  • @kevinmacdougall5967
    @kevinmacdougall5967 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe I missed it but do you ever use and rate Veritas hand planes. They seem to be quite popular and well made. Thank you.

  • @christophercottle3726
    @christophercottle3726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In a 1958 Stanley Catalog it state's in the plane section (page 36) " Did you know that "Jack" Plane is short for "Jackass" Plane; an appropriate name for the Plane that is used for the hardest and roughest kind of work.). That should be an authority enough for the name even though the "Jack of All Trades" may be more politically correct in todays world

    • @christophercottle3726
      @christophercottle3726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Further, in Wikipedia (not that is something to call official) it states " The name jack plane dates back to at least the 17th century, and was a term used to describe many tools used for rough work. Being a common first name the term jack came to be used disdainful name for the common man."

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very interesting comments thats for the info.....now we know

    • @whittysworkshop982
      @whittysworkshop982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, a Jack plane was used with a cambered iron and across the grain, it was a roughing tool back in the day :)

  • @marshallgeller8025
    @marshallgeller8025 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Rob,
    I have a no. 605 and it has a 2 inch blade . I was under the impression that the 605 1/2 was the only number 6 plane with the wider 2 1/4 blade?

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is correct. The 604 and 605 had the 2”, the 604-1/2, 606 and 607 had the 2-3/8”, and the 605-1/2 had the 2-1/4”.

  • @benjaminadair9548
    @benjaminadair9548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What iron and chip breaker do you use in your woodriver 5.5.

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I recommend and use the chipbreaker and iron that come with it. Sometimes you will see me with an IBC set because I have so many and just keep about 5 sets sharp and reach for whatever is next in line on my bench

  • @joelthoenen3733
    @joelthoenen3733 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My no 6 is my favorite plane to use. Especially on the shooting board. I don't have a 5 1/2 tho. Unless you count my Ohio tools version, but that thing is real finicky.

  • @rodrigomeza282
    @rodrigomeza282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would you consider manufacturing a “hot-dog” accessory for shooting with a regular plane? Maybe brass?

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actually we have been working on that for about two years

    • @rodrigomeza282
      @rodrigomeza282 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobCosmanWoodworking Great ! Any way you can showcase a prototype. I bet this would be a hit product! Thanks for everything you do

    • @1deerndingo
      @1deerndingo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RobCosmanWoodworking My right palm looks forward to seeing the resultant tool.

    • @jimrobinson8167
      @jimrobinson8167 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is a “hot-dog” accessory?.

    • @chrisdamico6719
      @chrisdamico6719 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimrobinson8167 It's a clip-on doodad that sits on the side of the plane, right where Rob describes in this video. You use it with the shooting board to save your hand, as it can get...uncomfortable...after a while.

  • @J.A.Smith2397
    @J.A.Smith2397 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You my boy blue!

  • @stephenfarris8498
    @stephenfarris8498 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No expert on planes here, but here’s a comparison a hockey guy like Rob might enjoy. Maybe the size of the plane choice is like the selection of a hockey stick for length and lie. All things being equal a long stick is an advantage, but for some the shorter stick is easier to handle. And Zdeno Charo needs a stick that could do double duty in the pole vault.

  • @alskjflaksjdflakjdf
    @alskjflaksjdflakjdf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing I've always wondered: why is the cutting surface of the plane so close to the front of the sole? Would it be more effective, especially on the bigger planes, to have the cutting edge further back on the sole?

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I dont know if Stanley test that snd found the current configuration the best. Its all about applying the right pressure comfortably. With such a low demand for planes today I dont see any plane maker experimenting with the tried and true configuration

    • @keats182
      @keats182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would think it would be less effective. You need to move the plane iron just pass the edge of the wood. The more weight you have on the front, the more tendency you will have to tilt forward since you will have more weight hanging off the edge. If the majority of your weight is behind the blade, the more weight is focused on the flattest surface of your board.
      You also only push down on the front when you first start. By the end of the board, all of your pressure should be on the back. Having a heavy back and lighter front helps with that general motion.

    • @alskjflaksjdflakjdf
      @alskjflaksjdflakjdf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@keats182 Thanks, I never thought about it that way before.

  • @andrewbrimmer1797
    @andrewbrimmer1797 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is not intended to sound smart Alec but if you were edge planing 1/2 or 3/3 because you have reswawn would you use the smaller foot plane to have better balance?

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, if I was going to edge plane 1/2” stock I would just use my block plane. For better balance

    • @andrewbrimmer1797
      @andrewbrimmer1797 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks

  • @scott8351
    @scott8351 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you recommend upgrading the iron on the WR 5 1/2?

    • @tomjudkins3799
      @tomjudkins3799 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the irons from woodriver are quite good. They take a very keen edge, they come very flat, and they hold up pretty well

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tom is on the money. The WR blades arevery good. You can spend a lot of money on a better blade but you will only see about a 5% improvement. If you want that go ahead,but its not neccessary

  • @GeeDeeBird
    @GeeDeeBird ปีที่แล้ว

    If I've got a 5 1/2, why would i need a 4 or 4 1/2?

  • @robertbamford8266
    @robertbamford8266 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not too ... Goldilocks would have liked the 5 1/2. Thanks for the information and the video!

  • @robinalexander5772
    @robinalexander5772 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A tool needs to feel right in the hand. Some will want big and heavy, some not so much. One should own many planes so you have choice. cost mmm! build your collection over time. I have 30 planes, old and new, low end to high end, new and old, no 5 acorn nice in hand.

  • @robinalexander5772
    @robinalexander5772 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 5 is more useable for a person of small frame, eg: a woman.

  • @linetiilikainen2755
    @linetiilikainen2755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dont see why there is a hype for the nr 5 plane in the woodworking community. The nr 5 makes sense if your only going to buy one plane. But its not the best plane for any task. The nr 4 is a better smoother and easier to use. For heavy stook removal i put in another blade in it. For jointing its better with something loonger than the nr 5. I use a wooden jointer plane becose the stanley nr 7 is to heavy.

  • @peternajjar4700
    @peternajjar4700 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much did you buy this hand plane and from where?

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We sell them on our website at RobCosman. Com. If you are in the US you must purchase them from Woodcraft.

  • @nspctor7729
    @nspctor7729 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No low angle jack?

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      sorry, yuck!

    • @nspctor7729
      @nspctor7729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RobCosmanWoodworking
      Yuck as in you forgot?
      or
      Yuck I'd NEVER have one?
      Thoughts?

    • @RobCosmanWoodworking
      @RobCosmanWoodworking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/DqXINyj3rB4/w-d-xo.html

  • @krissk77
    @krissk77 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok... I change all weights to KGs that's what we are familiar with safer to use.

  • @grumpyoldsodinacellar4065
    @grumpyoldsodinacellar4065 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In England we say "Jack of all trades and master of none".

  • @rickdringoli9444
    @rickdringoli9444 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'M ASKING SANTA FOR THE 5-1/2....