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I love DQM but seriously, this is by far the worst designed puzzle in all of gaming. Giant, messy, hoardes of annoying monsters, non-intuitive, non-satisfying and a cutscene for each and every damn quarter-turn of one of these fountains. I almost broke my switch in half. Like come on, it takes 12min even if you know what to do?! What the hell. Thank you man. Now I can finally continue in peace 🫶🏻
It's pretty bad (that's why I'm here), but it pales in comparison to the wind puzzle in the Demon King's Castle in Shin Megami Tensei V. That one was bad enough that the devs came out with a patch that nerfed the puzzle difficulty.
Honestly I was confused as hell. Thinking it was gonna be a walk in the park it turned into a migraine
I'm usually no slouch when it comes to dungeon puzzles (one of the reasons Zelda is my favourite series), but this and the rock spire dungeons had me running in circles for hours. Thank goodness for youtube walkthroughs. Love this game, but goddamn, why did the devs suddenly throw these obtuse puzzles at us halfway through the game.
I hate it so much im about to destroy the world cuz of this damn game shiiiiiitt im pissed
I have to agree with others here that this dungeon was just way too frustrating. I feel like I had the right idea, but just could not find a way to get access to the furthest switch on the right hand side. All the other dungeons so far, I could figure out except this one. Thanks for the guide!
Same exact thing here. Hadn’t used a guide yet and ingot to that top right spot but I couldn’t figure out the pathing to allow me to get there and have water flowing
personally I found it pretty simple to figure out once I figured out how to get to the upper right switch but it was rather frustrating and I never thought to drain the main water to open up a path
Thank you. This dungeon spoiled the game for me, unfortunately. The slow cutscenes and endless weak monster fights... it really bothers me when a game doesn't value the player's time. I hope they'll learn from this.
They never learn. It's like the developers are retarded.
The first few dungeons in this game had no puzzles. When they finally showed up in the middle echelons, I was pretty happy (especially the cake puzzles) Then I got to this. Fuck this dungeon.
IMO the hardest one for me has been the cog turning ones, but it's mostly just tedious
You are my HERO, I was losing my mind in this puzzle. Thank you so much!!! I can’t believe they didn’t implement some sort of repel monster mechanic to make these dungeons a little more palatable.
You're welcome 😁
Crazy how I was looking up guides on how to solve the pyramid puzzle in DW3 on GBC as a kid and now I’m 30 years old doing the same thing lol
Lol just rember the children's lullaby
Thank you!! I've been here over and hour, I knew I had to be missing something - I never noticed when the water level would drop at the very bottom so I could cross 😭 I knew that's what I had to do, I just never noticed when I get it and wind up in a effing loop over and over! Thank you!
This wouldn’t have been so bad if it weren’t for the LUDICROUS amount of monsters packed in this place messing up your concentration of the puzzle every two seconds. Thanks!
Yeah. That's very annoying when this place is packed with monsters.
Thank you very much for this video, I was enjoying the game very much until this level came and I was on the verge of quitting the game just because of not being able to figure out how to solve it.
You're very welcome!
I stopped playing for 2 months but picked it back up today and just followed this guide! Can’t believe it still takes 12 minutes to solve even when you know exactly where to go. It’s ridiculous!
This is maybe the most ridiculous puzzle I’ve seen in a JRPG in a looooong time, I spent like 2-3 hours trying to figure it out before finally giving up (the only thing I’ve looked up the whole game btw). How in the actual fuck did the devs think people were gonna be able to realistically solve a puzzle with this many steps, this many rooms, in a very specific order, while having your entire thought process hijacked every 2 seconds by getting into a battle? I thought some of the other dungeons were a little tedious, but this is just a little insane honestly.
The dungeon with the creme caramel trampolines gave me a little trouble but I managed to figure it out on my own, this one is just awful though. It's tainted the experience a bit in all honestly
@@AngelDustUwO dude, fuck that crème trampoline puzzle too lol. Those 2 dungeons felt so out of place compared to the rest of the dungeons in the game. It wouldnt have been as jarring if the dungeons the whole way through were gradually introducing more and more complex puzzles as the game progressed, but instead they just feel completely out of place
@@TakeaSwigBro absolutely agree, it wouldn't have been an issue if these convoluted puzzles weren't just thrown in randomly. The camera movements when jumping on the trampolines were really jarring too - I'm not sure who play-tested those two dungeons, but they're horrible 😆
@@AngelDustUwO I get the feeling that there was little to no play testing done for the later parts of the game, I have a hard time believing anyone could playtest either of the last 2 dungeons (but especially the last one) without seeing how obviously convoluted it is lol. Tbh I thought JRPG’s were solidly past the days of the last dungeon being an absolute shitshow out of nowhere, but I guess not.
@@TakeaSwigBro The late game is extremely lacklustre and flimsy in terms of gameplay. A lot of the earlier bosses gave me quite a bit of trouble even with their vulnerability to debuffs, but with a giant horrifying form of Estark it can't even take down a single one of my monsters. It kind if felt like a similar issue to pokemon where all my team members ended up extremely overleveled and overpowered. The bumper bonus ball is so overpowered too, I wished I hadn't used one since the boss fight and metal king slime fight completely destroyed any balance I could've maintained for even a little challenge.
It's a real shame since I was really enjoying it up until then, but I'm glad it's not just me who has problems with it at least
Just passed this HELL OF A level and was wondering If people were ok with this puzzle
I'm glad i'm not the only one here
The monsters made dealing with this puzzle worst😭
I wasnt okay with it but it was not a game breaker for me...just tedious work, felt a bit old-school but not in the best way...can't imagine doing this if battles were random
This water puzzle was unnecessarily difficult. I would have never figured it out without ur guide, appreciate it 👍.
You're welcome
You know I first thought there was a way to fast forward the video to save some time, but you actually do need 12 straight minutes of instruction to "drain the water so that you can then fill it with more water". What rpg makers seemingly can't figure out is that when you're forced to fight endless waves of monsters to solve puzzles like this one your party becomes so powerful the subsequent bosses get steamrolled. I remember bosses that the game let me fight at a reasonable level. I'll forget about the final bosses of this game in a week. Thanks for the video.
Completely agree, some of the bosses around the middle seriously messed me up but the final ones are seriously pathetic feeling because of overleveling. It doesn't help that debuffing and status conditions are so overpowered in this game either. It felt so weird being confronted with Estark Izmah only for me to be able to sap, blunt and accuracy lower it with ease and for it to be a joke even whilst having all my monsters stats lowered by 2 stages :/
Thanks for the guide this puzzle was annoying i probably never would have figured it out.
Wow this puzzle... I'm not the best at these but generally I'll putz around until I solve it. This one had me stumped
thanks for this! the dungeon drove me crazy and this was straightforward and to the point
Thank you very much, definitely needed this, I am terrible with dungeon puzzles that require a lot of backtracking.
Thank you so much! I've gotten everything else by far - but this was so poorly designed/implied that I just could *not* figure the final part of it out. I appreciate you!
Genuinely terrible game design present in this dungeon unfortunately. Every other one is linear as hell and then they throw this garbage at the player. It's a water dungeon though so I guess it makes sense
@@AngelDustUwO 10000% hard agree. Water dungeons generally are the worst. If they had just made the area smaller and a bit more straight forward - like axing the very back right switch and possibly another, it would have been fine. I was just blind and DIDN'T see the back slope to get to it, there was absolutely nothing that drew me back there to discover it.
Thank you.... when I got here, I was like nope, not again, and proceeded to find my way to your guide 😂
Glad I could help!
I see this dungeon features too much water to avoid being afflicted with the curse of the dreaded water level. Seriously hate this dungeon! Thank you so much for the guide because this is seriously frustrating 😆
IGN Dungeon Review: 7.8/10 Too much water.
After doing the first 3 and coming across this, I had to look it up, thank you Sir! 🎉
Huge Help @Owl-Quest! Had I not found your video I think my Ocarina of Time Water Temple PTSD was going to kick in! 🤣😵💫
Thank you for this guide, I can usually figure these dungeons out without needing help, but this one in particular was frustrating to say the least
Thank you for making this I haven’t had to look up a guide yet but I got so frustrated with this place. I made it to the end almost but couldn’t figure out the path to make it back while blocking the water
Take my upvote and my sincere thanks.
You're welcome
I like these puzzles. I felt like I was doing an old school Zelda puzzle. Not a fan of the open world crafting and cooking sim that Zelda has become. I thought it was fun.
Plus got super lucky with a metal slime king encounter and everything was mostly running away from me lol so maybe my opinion is bias hehe
hands down best video on TH-cam
Thank you man, you saved me a giant headache. After the cakes puzzle for which I also looked down a guide as it was already driving me insane, I arrived into this dungeon and I was like "huuuuuuuh" after the first 2-3 springs. Thank you again ♥
You're very welcome!
Thank you for you're hard work. These videos helped so much.
You're most welcome!
The most disgusting dungeon I had played in the last years.
I wish this video would have been released before that '^^
Thanks bro, this was a nightmare, even if you know what to do you have to check every if it is done right
You're welcome 😁
Great tutorial!!! Awesome 👌
seriously thank you so much for this i was stuck on this for hours and being attacked by monsters evrey second certainly doesent help
Many thanks for this!
You're welcome. This is the most complicated puzzle in this game.
THANKYOU SO MUCH BRO this puzzle almost made me quit this game and it’s my children game series too
Thank you so much!! You saved my day ❤❤❤
Glad it helped!
absolute legend, this puzzle was as annoying if not more so than the dragonspate staircase puzzle. 10/10 sick lad
Tysm!! This was a freaking headache
You're welcome!
Thank you so so much. I hated this dungeon…was about to throw my controller. Thumbs up from me.👍
You're welcome 😁
Thanks! Was considering uninstalling when I couldn't figure it out after an hour. I knew I had to get to the back right area but couldn't figure out the right water level. So annoying.
Glad I could help!
THANK YOU! I thought I was pretty clever for getting through the flan puzzle, but this is nuts.
Thank you so much for this
You're welcome
Thanks man!
You're amazing for this. I love you! ❤️ ❤️ 😍
You're welcome
Thank you for this
Thank you so much
Thank you so much for this video, I was pulling my hair out!
You're welcome. BTW, I love your channel's contents.
@@owl-quest oh thank you so much for that!
Thank you for the guide! The one thihg I dreaded from this game were th dungeons. They tried to make it too much like LOZ with the puzzle dungeons. I just wanna get through the story and catch monsters 😭
Thank you so much for this! This puzzle is one of the worst I've ever seen!
Appreciate it.
Thank you
I fcking love you dude!!! Tyty
Thank you for this helpful guide! You saved me! 😇👍🏾❤
Thank you thank you thank you
thank you !!! i feel so dumb x)
You're welcome
I think there's a glitch in my switch version. I followed all your moves and the platforms leading to Aamon did not elevate.
hate this place, so many monsters with big hitboxes
I was seriously going crazy at trying to find out how to get to that last switch in the upper right corner. God this puzzle was such an annoying convoluted mess.
lol this puzzle was so freaking hard. after i solve it i come to search for videos for it to see if i'm the only one lol. even when i solved it... i was sure it will not work and that the platforms will not be high enough to let me pass... when i got there and see i can finally reach the save point i saved 5 times in a row just in case to be sure, i will never be need to do this shit again.
Thank you for this guide. I played the first game and miss when the dungeons were just navigating a maze and falling down a hole
I want you to be the parent of my kids, thanks a lot ❤
You're welcome 😁
I did this place. I was stumped on the right side.
Than I open the map and noticed another switch. Afterward I solved it
I felt proud I was able to solve this puzzle without a guide, but I agree, it’s a B!
I came here just to see how ppl felt abt this part of the game and glad i aint the only one feeling frustrated. I ended up beating it without help but still.. i spat blood beating this sh1t.
no way we were supposed to get this 😂
Thank you so mutch hell that was trash
I got myself to around the 6 min part of the video, then got stuck and had to look ut up 😅
Strangley in mine the guards never attacked me
Whoever designed this puzzle needs to FORMALLY apologize to the community, patch this game ruining dungeon, and offer something of value like boosters.
This is easily the worst dungeon in the history of Dragon Quest.
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Omg ty man this dungeon was absolute ass
For some reason the monsters aren’t even attacking me here
They did a patch not too long ago, the devs basically acknowledged that *"Nah, this dungeon is too bullshit even for JRPG standards."* and turned off basically all monster's vision so the puzzle can be done easily with a guide or at least be solved without getting harassed by monsters.
I respect them owning up to the terrible design and making it far more reasonable.
Disagree with the other commenters. I loved this pzzle. I’m tired of easy puzzles in games and found this sufficiently challenging
Same, dungeons were a bit of a slog for me not due to them being long, but due to them being boring and linear, the one with the flan puzzle and this one were highlights due to how much I needed to pay attention and actually think, even when I messed up a few steps and had to undo them, the dungeon was still quite fun.
i feel so stupid after seeing ho its done and i tried for hours
Game is still worth playing despite this confusing dungeon. The final story arc was a lot of fun and the post game story and bosses were good.
I screwed up while following this tutorial and had to start over on the very last step. I already spent over an hour trying to do it on my own. This was easily the worst puzzles in a video game ever.
I did this tedious freakin puzzle..Its not so much as hard..but just tedious with the slow turn table animation
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Grazie , lo stavo per abbandonare , odio enigmi del genere , veramente mi ha disgustato questa parte del gioco
youtube stop pub
Only clicked on the video because I couldn’t believe how many people are struggling with this puzzle. Although the cutscene for every turn is annoying, it’s one of the more complicated puzzles i’ve run into, and it’s amazing for that! We need more hard puzzles in games.
The dungeon punishes you for following the linear pattern present in most if not all of the previous dungeons. It's frustrating, unrewarding and just straight up bad game design, at least in my opinion
That was not fun.
Very annoying puzzle, way too many enemies around, breaking up any progress you could make on figuring it out on your own.
Puzzles ruined the game for me
Yeah this was the worst puzzle
you have no fucking idea
Thank you so much 🙏
So much backtracking with unavoidable fights, this dungeon is gay as hell.
Real
This is infuriating…..i despise puzzles this intricate in games more geared towards action.
towards action? my man, this is a turn-based RPG 😂
Yeah no. Ruined the whole game for me, because of miserable experience this was. Not sure when if ever I'll do this all over again.
It's actually terrible. This "dungeon" is bad, because it isn't linear like all the others before it. In fact it punishes you if you do do it linearly which is probably what's happening to most people in the comments.
Basically you need to have set up the end waterfalls to face inwards BEFORE filling the center otherwise you're screwed and have to start over because the water blocks them. Especially true for the northeastern one.
All they had to do to make it much better is add another switch at the center closer to the portal on northen end that when rotated removes all of the center water. But no that would save so much backtracking!
Welp that's that! Rip game was fun but with my characters now lvl 60+, 70000 gold, 5+ hours later, I'm done. Pretty sure I could beat the boss easy with omniheal, kaboomle unlocked with mp regen, 600+ hp party members, etc.
A week later, and I followed this video on my 4th attempt. I ended up beating this dungeon's boss, the next dungeon's boss, and the next boss all within an hour and a half or less. So yes, this dungeon made me overleveled.