Mysterio is my favorite spiderman villain so i was hyped for this film then to see them deliver in spades with the live action depiction especially the big illusion scene that's straight up riped from the pages of the comics, this is my personal favorite spiderman film.
Y'all keep up the great content. Schnepp would love seeing y'all geek out over there fills like he would have. Still miss hearing his views but glad y'all carrying the torch.
I know you are going to be doing Matrix and Batman rewatches, and others from upcoming films. But now that it has ended, I think a good saga to rewatch would be Craig's James Bond films. I think with its ups and downs, it was overall a very good continuous series with a great closing.
There are so many things in these movies that I don’t notice. I definitely don’t feel as invested as you 3, but it’s nice to observe and listen to people who are as invested as you are. Great podcast 🤩🤩
My introduction to the J. Jonah Jameson character was watching the 1967 Spider-Man cartoon. "Then there is a Spider-Man! And I thought the police we're pulling my leg. Wow what a story!" - J. Jonah Jameson from the episode "King Pinned"
I'm looking forward to the rewatch of Spider-Verse! The actor who played Miles Morales in that film, Shameik Moore, starred in the movie Dope and just hinted at playing live action Miles on his Twitter.
Into the Spider-Verse is soooo cool my favourite spidey film if we get a live action Miles Morales Film That’d be immense I think Peyton Reed or someone like Sam mendes would do a great job with that
Braveheart is the Quentin Beck of this series. Hiding in the background but making appearances throughout, until a big finale (Winston giving his review) 😄
Greetings from Ontario! Here an hour early. This has become one of my fav series on TH-cam. I think I enjoy this movie more every time I watch it. As much I love Toby and Andrew for different reasons, I really think Tom is both a great Parker and Spiderman. Which we really did have before. Toby was a good Peter but didn't find his humor or "jokes" he tried to make while Spiderman that great, where Andrew was the opposite. I think he was a good Peter, I guess, but he seemed too "cool" to be Peter.
@@TheKristianHarloff Excited for the Matrix one. I'm really only a fan of the OG trilogy, and enjoyed Force Awakens. Thought Last Jedi and Rise were just a mess and you could feel Han/Chewy dynamic missing from the movies, which is some of my favourite moments. Excited still to watch your rewatch on Jedi and Rise though haha
Since they all had drones in the beginning, I assumed the reason why the web caught fire was because one of the drones had some kind of flame thrower to well add onto the illusion
Just gonna mention this theory that I'm not confident will happen but will not be surprised if it does: What if in No Way Home, Doctor Strange (who seems like Strange to me in the trailers) is revealed to be Mysterio is disguise, and all the "actual Multiverse" and alternate versions of Spider-Man villains are another illusion. That would be insane....
I will say even though I think Far from Home is a better movie slightly, I do think Homecoming is funnier because some of the jokes mainly in the first act could get awkward at times. Also I wish they gave Marisa Tomei more to do, like have her be supportive of Peter as Spider-Man while also being worried that he might get hurt. Continuing off the ending to Homecoming instead of the usual “Hey Peter, your aunt is hot!” jokes.
I know you mentioned it last week too but the score for this movie/these Spider-Man films is one of my favourites in the MCU it's SO GOOOD. Giacchino said once he was gonna ramp up the Spidey theme and make it bigger and grander with each movie so I'm excited to hear what he does in No Way Home. Also I thought the drones were capable of actually shooting fire and bullets etc. We see them causing real physical damage a bunch it's not 100% an illusion. So when Spidey see's his webs burn up for example I just assumed there was a drone that had a flame thrower on it or something
But Peter was already Spidey before Tony. The morals instilled in him by his family makes him the hero he is. I really hate how much the MCU makes his journey defined by Tony. Tony brought him in because of how much he already was a full hero. Having him regress so that Tony can teach him a lesson always rang false to me. But I love Jake as Fish Bowl. Top 3 MCU villain.
It is crazy that there's a company that's producing some clean-behind-products and they didn't bother to check whether there was a production company called tushy that is... doing other stuff that is related to behinds. Or maybe this is a spin-off from the production company that is all about behinds and how to have fun with them - in that case, well played. ^^
Some fun fact about this movie: The Dutch actors in the prison scene were asked to speak with a thicker accent because otherwise, it wasn't believable enough that they were in the Netherlands.
I agree about Zendaya, I thought she had much more to do here and her chemistry with Holland is charming and adorable. Honestly rewatching these movies, their chemistry reminded me of like a combination of Garfield & Stone and Maguire & Dunst. The Garfield and Stone comparison because it is that cutesy back and forth between two awkward people, but IMO it’s not as cringey and more natural like how real teenagers talk. And the Maguire & Dunst comparison in terms her character is reminiscent of Mary Jane in the first Spider-Man, where Mary Jane is basically the party girl at school and with friends, but it’s really a facade and you realize she has a shitty home life and she feels more comfortable being herself around Peter. Once we get to the bridge scene, that’s where I started to like Zendaya’s version, cause behind all the dark & edgy jokes and responses, when she’s around Peter, she’s just as awkward as he is and once it was revealed why, it adds dimension to her character and makes her more likable. I know some people crap on Zendaya’s MJ but I really like her in the role and I’m interested to see how their relationship grows in No Way Home
I think people tend to shit on Zendaya's MJ because she's not the traditional Mary Jane. I'm okay with her being a new, unique take on the character, but the way they "revealed" her at the end of "Homecoming" felt super-forced. They could've just made her "MJ" from the very beginning, as opposed to naming her Michelle. While she doesn't have the traditional traits of Mary Jane, ie. she's the popular, out-going kid; that aspect of her building up an image of herself to hide her inner turmoil and insecurities is VERY MUCH in-character, and something I appreciate. The name-change/reveal is ultimately what I felt was unnecessary to me about her character. Otherwise, she has a very charming chemistry with Tom Holland's Peter. They legit interact like a real awkward high-school romance; neither of them really know what they're doing, but they somehow make it work.
I actually enjoyed ":Far From Home" even more than "Homecoming". Both are really good, but I think the fun factor is upped in this one. Also, I think the unsung hero of these two solo Spider-Man movies is the composer, Michael Giacchino. His scores really fit the tone and characters of these movies very well.
I need to watch Far From Home again. I haven't seen it since it was in theaters. Even though I liked it, I remember not liking it was much as Homecoming, but that was only after one viewing. I need a refresh before No Way Home comes out.
Great Convo guys loved this one. In the actors born to play their super hero characters debate. To add to Jk as JJJ and Ryan Reynolds as Wade/Deadpool, and RDJ as Tony Stark I'll also throw in Hugh Jackman as Logan and Patrick Steward as Charles X. From the X-Men movies. I just think Hugh and Patrick elevate those characters so much. What do you guys think? Agree?
Another good show. Squirrel should be named Debo because he doesn't care if you see him or not long as he get his treats. Far from Home is a fun movie. They pulled off Mysterio which I thought never happen I'm with Coy and Winston that Beck is alive and he's the 6th of Sinister Six in next film. I hope Holland does 3 more films than pass it to Miles Morales. Seems we got good actor who becomes Spider-Man and Peter Parker on and off screen like Henry Cavil does for Superman. I enjoyed the show lots of laughing and craziness like a good Friday night hanging out.
I don't think Beck is alive. But like Coy says. Team Mysterio is still around and they have the fully rendered Holo-Beck. I think it's way more interesting to have Team Mysterio come back and use Beck as a ghost
@@TheKristianHarloff I mean I doubt they show back up, but it feels more fun that way if they ever do. My dream would be a Spidey show on D+. Just more time to really use all his badguys.
You know I’ve seen people crap on Far from Home a lot recently, but I feel like the hate is a bit unfair and it’s a marginal improvement over Homecoming for me. I know Jon Watts kinda gets lump into with Peyton Reed and the Captain Marvel directors in terms of MCU directors with no particular style compare to like James Gunn or Taika, but I thought he stepped it up for this one in terms of the action sequences as you can tell he’s gotten used to it whereas Homecoming, you could tell he’s new at this. Especially that Mysterio sequence, one of the best scenes in not just the MCU and but in any Spider-Man movie. Interested to see how handles it with not just No Way Home but with Fantastic Four coming up.
I love what Peyton Reed did with the Ant-Man movies very underrated which is cool 👍 Jon watts is very similar but that’s cool man 😎I think both have done a great job with their movies giving them a more upbeat summer vibe…although No Way Home looks to be going for that witchy autumn vibe 🎥👍let’s hope they both carry on doing what they do great 👍
@@TheKristianHarloff Idk I really hope Holland still stays in the MCU after this and not go over in the Sonyverse, like follow him when he’s in college.
I actually don't know what to make of this movie. The parts where Peter is trying to woo MJ is sweet and relatable but then there are other parts where I am just like how dumb can a hero get. And then he is saved by Ironman again, this time not physically, but now with his tech.
@@TheKristianHarloff I just hope they explore the independent Spiderman. Without the parents aspect, the Ironman aspect, etc. I want to see Tom Holland's Spiderman actually be Spiderman where he figures out stuff by himself.
So, this is a total tangent, but I think Coy is one of the few dudes who can pull off a mustache and a soul patch and show up in a Ken Burns Civil War documentary as a soldier. “My dearest Mary, the war is far worse than I feared. I believe that the cause is just for no man, woman or child should be subject to the whims and cruelty of bondage to another. I only hope that this letter finds you well and pray that this terrible conflict can be ended swiftly. Earnestly and forever yours, Sergeant Coy Jandreau”
Think about this: Civil War sets up Peter Parker and the villain who is eventually going to ruin his life and push him to the brink of doing a Men in Black memory wipe on the entire universe I'd say that Mysterio is definitely Peter's archenemy in the MCU
I might be mistaken but wasn't there literally a sequence in the final act of the drones shooting out fire like a flamethrower and Spidey was on fire? Then he had this cool little stunt where he swung into the water to drown it out? I feel like that easily explains the fire elemental monster. So yeah, Spiderman's webs were really caught on fire. It wasn't fake.
@@TheKristianHarloff I will this is my second favorite Spider-Man movie Tom Holland is Spider-Man without a question there’s no one else who can play Spider-Man like Holland can he fits the role perfectly he brings what we all love from the comics and mysterio is my second favorite Spider-Man villain
Sorta Spider-Man related but Kristian, you should do a review on Tick, Tick…Boom! On Netflix. Lin-Manuel Miranda’s directorial debut is very entertaining and Andrew Garfield gives the performance of his career.
Best to Worst: Spider-Man 2/2.1 Spider-Man Spider-Man 3: Editor's Cut The Amazing Spider-Man Spider-Man 3: Theatrical Cut Spider-Man: Homecoming The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Spider-Man: Far From Home Holland's version peaked with Civil War and the only reason I'm even excited for NWH is for obvious reasons. Far From Home was the first time I was mad leaving out of a Spider-Man film in theaters. My issues with SM3, TASM1, TASM2, and HC came on later viewings.
@@TheKristianHarloff Yes it came out for the movie's 10 Year Anniversary and before Homecoming. It's based on an earlier version of the movie. They added some scenes, removed some scenes, put scenes back into their original order to illustrate how much the Black Suit is affecting Peter, and the recycled music from the first two films is completely gone and replaced with Chris Young's original score. It's also two minutes shorter. It depends on how you feel about SM3 on whether you like the cut or not but it is a better version. There's still alot of deleted scenes that haven't seen the light of day though.
Yooooo I was watching Into the Spiderverse and I realized that for Gwen, Peter was the lizard and died. What if we get Spider-Gwen and the lizard is her Peter. He technically died at the hands of Spider-Woman.
It's early in the morning so no witty insight from me. I really enjoyed Far From Home. More than Homecoming, less than Raimi's Spider-Man 2. Will there be a ranking after Into the Spiderverse? Or after No Way Home?
The new spider man movies are good . But they don't use his spider since at all. But keep the show going. Watch them all . I do go back n re-watch them to
/rantmode: on Ok, let's talk about THE worst scene in any Spider-Man or MCU movie: Peter Parker in a Dutch jailcell/village. I'm Dutch, and this scene really pisses me off. Quick re-cap: Peter fought Mysterio in Germany, gets on a train, passes out and wakes up in a holding cell in the Dutch village Broek Op Langedijk. First off: There is no way in hell Peter could've end up where he did. So Peter is unconscious on a train from Germany to The Netherlands. On this train there are conductors who check for tickets, one of them would've found Peter and tried to wake him up. So, scenario 1: Peter wakes up. He has no ticket and is clearly foreign. Police will be contacted and be waiting at the next station on the track. Peter will be taken off the train and be detained in order to confirm his identity, quite possibly the US ambassy will be contacted to do so. After his identity has been confirmed he'll be paying a fine for being on the train without a ticket, and put on a flight back to the USA. Scenario 2: Peter doesn't wake up. Police and an abulance will be contacted and be waiting at the next station on the track. Peter will be taken off the train and to the nearest hospital, where doctors will examine him in order to get him to wake up. While the doctors take care of Peter, police will try to establish his identity. Once Peter's identity is established and he's feeling well again, he'll get a fine for riding the train without a ticket, and be on the next flight to the USA. If for some reason the train doesn't make an unscheduled stop to deal with this, they'll deal with it on the first scheduled stop, which in The Netherlands for this train is Utrecht. Utrecht is about 60 miles south-east of Broek Op Langedijk. If, by some miracle, no-one finds Peter until the train reached it final stop, he'd be in Amsterdam, which is 30 miles south of Broek Op Langedijk. Also, the police wouldn't have taken him to Broek Op Langedijk, they'd've taken him to the nearest policestation. And Broek Op Langedijk has no trainstation. So can anyone explain to me how an unconscious Peter managed to stay hidden, get off the train at the final stop and travel 30 miles by bus to Broek Op Langedijk? Secondly: The depiction of Broek Op Langedijk and it's people. 1: Dutch holding cells don't look like that. In Dutch police stations people are contained in individual cells. This is to prevent them from collaborating or hurting eachother. These cells are small rooms with thick metal doors, not areas with bars. 2: No-one in The Netherlands wears the shirt of our national soccer-team if there's no match of the national team that day. People do wear shirts of their favourite soccer teams, which in this case probably would've been Ajax, who hail from Amsterdam. 3: Broek Op Langedijk is a fairly modern village that looks nothing like the movie makes it look. (see link to Google Streetview below) There are a couple of villages throughout The Netherlands that still look like a bit that, either because they are outdoor museums* or tourist-traps, none anywhere near the track the train took though, so just as unlikely for Peter to end up in. And we don't allow cattle to roam the streets freely, so the goat and the cow they put in this scene wouldn't be there. (I know the scene was filmed in Spain, but they could've put more effort in making it look like The Netherlands, because this is insulting.) /rantmode: off *There are a couple of villages in The Netherlands that are labelled as 'museum', this is so they can be preserved and teach us about how things were in the past. Link: www.google.nl/maps/@52.6742665,4.8059302,3a,75y,212.46h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sLOvHTqQDN7RV4XCWdpbVSA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DLOvHTqQDN7RV4XCWdpbVSA%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D212.45708%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
@@TheKristianHarloff If they had depicted L.A. (or New York) according to all the stereotypes there are about Americans, and also getting every other detail in that scene wrong, wouldn't you be offended?
This was another extremely enjoyable episode. :-) Personally, my main issue with this movie is that the first 40 or so minutes felt like a complete "waste" to me. Spider-Man has always been my favorite hero growing up with and I was very much aware of who Mysterio is and that this *had to be* some kind of illusion. I think that this movie is way better for someone who didn't see the obvious twist coming, but as a long-time comic book reader that wasn't willing to check out their brain at the entrance of the cinema, it felt like a whole lot of build-up for absolutely no reward. It was like watching a M. Night Shyamalan movie when someone else had already spoiled the twist for you - not all that enjoyable. I think that the first confrontation between Spidey and Mysterio was the highlight of the movie. This was CGI done in the best way possible, it felt surreal (as it should have - it was all illusions after all) and it had a killer ending. While I'm not sure I agree with everything that came after that, especially how it was set up (apparently when you're Spider-Man and a high speed bullet train is running you over, you will just magically end up inside the train with no visible scratches or anything), the movie overall has a lot going for it. I tend to dislike the Spidey movies where Spidey wants to cop out and not deal with his responsibility - I think him understanding that, well, with great power comes great responsibility, is THE defining character trait and whenever the movies show him doubting that (Spider-Man 2 also comes to mind), I'm less of a fan. I can still appreciate a lot of really good things in this movie, but it could never be my favorite Spider-Man movie and I think upon rewatching I'll end up liking it less for all the reasons given above.
I believe Tom Holland was born to play this role. He genetically is growing with his character as we see him on screen over the years and it’s something we didn’t really get to witness with the previous two iterations of the character.
I enjoy this movie overall but it totally undercuts its whole message with the scene of Peter in the plane where he's doing all the Iron Man stuff and the ACDC music plays in the background. It's supposed to be about him being his own man, and yet they still try to give him Tony Stark traits which only fuels the whole "Iron Man Jr" criticisms. Worst scene of all of Tom Holland's movies.
This movie is better than most of the forgettable marvel sequels but it's still missing something .I wouldn't put this above spiderman 1 2 or homecoming I think I'd even put amazing spiderman 1 over this movie . I wasn't a fan of how dumb Peter was in this movie with the glasses and it looks like he's gonna make another dumb mistake in no way home .
@@Kenji-fm8kf yea that was a little annoying like I get it and it made sense but I'm tired of Tony stark being the biggest villian in the mcu even in death lol.
Yea personally this is probably my least fav Spider-Man movie too. The jokes don’t land and I don’t really like Mysterio’s tie to Tony Stark. I sighed in the movie theater
I agree all news lies, both sides are evil. I also love this film more every time. But I still like homecoming a little more cuz Michael Keaton, also my favorite actor of all time. I can't think of a movie he's bad in. I hope we get to see an adult Spiderman with Tom in Sony's universe. Since we never saw that. Also it'd be even more impactful cuz we watched him grow up as Spiderman.
@@jackhumphreys3534 don’t worry I’ll be sure to compare Keaton’s superiority as Batman to Tobey, and Kilmer’s, and Bales, and Affleck’s, and Pattinson’s, and…
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You guys need to keep up this Friday Re-watch Team going. Your chemistry is amazing 👌👌
Agreed!
Thank you!
Coy, you just gave me goosebumps!!!!
"He put a suit of armor around his world"
Yup
When that first Mysterio sequence happened, I could sense Jon Schnepp geeking out about that scene. We miss you big guy.
Very much!
Yep yep, we really do 😢
What an awesome comment man.
I think the reason Mysterio works so well is because we could totally believe Jake Gyllenhaal as an MCU hero. The casting was perfect
I guess you can say Mysterio by the end, knew all too well…
I agree
Mysterio rules
You three have great chemistry and play off each other so well. Definitely need to keep this series going
We will!
Not sure if someone else mentioned this, but Winston’s 8 bit pixelated glasses are awesome
They are great!
Please keep this rewatch crew going after this Spider Man series is over. The 3 of you have some of the best brotherly/geeky chemistry
Thanks David!
Loving the channel, Kristian. SO much great content. Keep it up!
Really appreciate that
i was so glad to see coy up there with tom holland ... totally deserving and is one of the most underrated guys on youtube in this space
Coy is great
Thank you Kristian, Coy and Winston for another spectacular review!!! Hope you guys have a wonderful weekend!!! 🙂
Thank you too!
first time watching one of these. so entertaining. love the convo
Thank you! Well we have the full series in a playlist, take a look!
Loving these rewatch on audio just wanted to comment and say thank you 😊
Thank you! The audio downloads are absolutely crucial to this channel so thank you!
Mysterio is my favorite spiderman villain so i was hyped for this film then to see them deliver in spades with the live action depiction especially the big illusion scene that's straight up riped from the pages of the comics, this is my personal favorite spiderman film.
It gets better for me all the time!
SQUIRREL!
He's back!
Oh God, my heart.
Love this show
Haha thank you!
I thought that was it
Y'all keep up the great content. Schnepp would love seeing y'all geek out over there fills like he would have. Still miss hearing his views but glad y'all carrying the torch.
Awesome as usual🤙🏾I loved hearing everyone's stories about Tom or Chadwick or Jake
Thanks for listening!
I know you are going to be doing Matrix and Batman rewatches, and others from upcoming films. But now that it has ended, I think a good saga to rewatch would be Craig's James Bond films. I think with its ups and downs, it was overall a very good continuous series with a great closing.
Might be tough to do but I am def going to be checking out the last one!
Tangents and interview mess ups...this was total fun. I slapped my chair at the Mysterio reveal scene, I fell for it too LoL
Right?!
There are so many things in these movies that I don’t notice. I definitely don’t feel as invested as you 3, but it’s nice to observe and listen to people who are as invested as you are.
Great podcast 🤩🤩
Thank you Luke! Curious, have you had a chance to follow us on podcast form!
@@TheKristianHarloff just did 😊
I bought into the idea that maybe Mysterio was gonna be a good guy so hard that it was so much more effective when he's revealed as the villain.
Yeah I thought that worked.
I can honestly listen to you guys talk for hours, this was an awesome episode.
Thank you!
@@TheKristianHarloff big respect. Been a fan since 2015 and I can tell you’re genuinely having a great time.
My introduction to the J. Jonah Jameson character was watching the 1967 Spider-Man cartoon. "Then there is a Spider-Man! And I thought the police we're pulling my leg. Wow what a story!" - J. Jonah Jameson from the episode "King Pinned"
Love the character
I'm looking forward to the rewatch of Spider-Verse! The actor who played Miles Morales in that film, Shameik Moore, starred in the movie Dope and just hinted at playing live action Miles on his Twitter.
Into the Spider-Verse is soooo cool my favourite spidey film if we get a live action Miles Morales Film That’d be immense I think Peyton Reed or someone like Sam mendes would do a great job with that
Gonna ir that one on Thanksgiving!
Tony putting armor around HIS world is dope and I never noticed that before... I guess Happy can kick rocks tho huh?
Haha
Great discussion, guys. Loved it.
Thank you!
Braveheart is the Quentin Beck of this series. Hiding in the background but making appearances throughout, until a big finale (Winston giving his review) 😄
Haha
“So that’s the way my parents died and it’s taken a lot for me to say it.”
Kristian: “Yeah but do you wipe your TUSHY?!”
hahahahaa
😂🤣
Fun time. Loving every episode
Thank you!
Greetings from Ontario! Here an hour early. This has become one of my fav series on TH-cam. I think I enjoy this movie more every time I watch it. As much I love Toby and Andrew for different reasons, I really think Tom is both a great Parker and Spiderman. Which we really did have before. Toby was a good Peter but didn't find his humor or "jokes" he tried to make while Spiderman that great, where Andrew was the opposite. I think he was a good Peter, I guess, but he seemed too "cool" to be Peter.
Wow, thank you! We have a Star Wars rewatch on at moment and Matrix is up next. As far as Spidey goes, curious how all 3 will vibe together!
@@TheKristianHarloff Excited for the Matrix one. I'm really only a fan of the OG trilogy, and enjoyed Force Awakens. Thought Last Jedi and Rise were just a mess and you could feel Han/Chewy dynamic missing from the movies, which is some of my favourite moments. Excited still to watch your rewatch on Jedi and Rise though haha
They literally changed Nick Fury to look like Sam Jackson in the comics, so I think he should get some credit too.
Nice
Since they all had drones in the beginning, I assumed the reason why the web caught fire was because one of the drones had some kind of flame thrower to well add onto the illusion
That is what I thought as well
Just gonna mention this theory that I'm not confident will happen but will not be surprised if it does:
What if in No Way Home, Doctor Strange (who seems like Strange to me in the trailers) is revealed to be Mysterio is disguise, and all the "actual Multiverse" and alternate versions of Spider-Man villains are another illusion.
That would be insane....
Hmmm, that is a big one but that would mean he got control of the drones again and Spidey can't sense it.
I will say even though I think Far from Home is a better movie slightly, I do think Homecoming is funnier because some of the jokes mainly in the first act could get awkward at times. Also I wish they gave Marisa Tomei more to do, like have her be supportive of Peter as Spider-Man while also being worried that he might get hurt. Continuing off the ending to Homecoming instead of the usual “Hey Peter, your aunt is hot!” jokes.
Yeah I feel she might have more to do in this one.
I love how they made J Jonah an alex Jones type character 😄
Ha yeah
Not to mention he’s finally using his spider Sense and utilizing it more
He is!
I know you mentioned it last week too but the score for this movie/these Spider-Man films is one of my favourites in the MCU it's SO GOOOD. Giacchino said once he was gonna ramp up the Spidey theme and make it bigger and grander with each movie so I'm excited to hear what he does in No Way Home.
Also I thought the drones were capable of actually shooting fire and bullets etc. We see them causing real physical damage a bunch it's not 100% an illusion. So when Spidey see's his webs burn up for example I just assumed there was a drone that had a flame thrower on it or something
The score does get better and better.
But Peter was already Spidey before Tony. The morals instilled in him by his family makes him the hero he is.
I really hate how much the MCU makes his journey defined by Tony. Tony brought him in because of how much he already was a full hero.
Having him regress so that Tony can teach him a lesson always rang false to me.
But I love Jake as Fish Bowl. Top 3 MCU villain.
I wonder how it ties into the greater plan
It is crazy that there's a company that's producing some clean-behind-products and they didn't bother to check whether there was a production company called tushy that is... doing other stuff that is related to behinds.
Or maybe this is a spin-off from the production company that is all about behinds and how to have fun with them - in that case, well played. ^^
Haha not sure.
This ones gonna be the one. 🤘🏽
Love this one
Some fun fact about this movie: The Dutch actors in the prison scene were asked to speak with a thicker accent because otherwise, it wasn't believable enough that they were in the Netherlands.
Interesting.
I agree about Zendaya, I thought she had much more to do here and her chemistry with Holland is charming and adorable. Honestly rewatching these movies, their chemistry reminded me of like a combination of Garfield & Stone and Maguire & Dunst.
The Garfield and Stone comparison because it is that cutesy back and forth between two awkward people, but IMO it’s not as cringey and more natural like how real teenagers talk. And the Maguire & Dunst comparison in terms her character is reminiscent of Mary Jane in the first Spider-Man, where Mary Jane is basically the party girl at school and with friends, but it’s really a facade and you realize she has a shitty home life and she feels more comfortable being herself around Peter. Once we get to the bridge scene, that’s where I started to like Zendaya’s version, cause behind all the dark & edgy jokes and responses, when she’s around Peter, she’s just as awkward as he is and once it was revealed why, it adds dimension to her character and makes her more likable. I know some people crap on Zendaya’s MJ but I really like her in the role and I’m interested to see how their relationship grows in No Way Home
I think people tend to shit on Zendaya's MJ because she's not the traditional Mary Jane. I'm okay with her being a new, unique take on the character, but the way they "revealed" her at the end of "Homecoming" felt super-forced. They could've just made her "MJ" from the very beginning, as opposed to naming her Michelle. While she doesn't have the traditional traits of Mary Jane, ie. she's the popular, out-going kid; that aspect of her building up an image of herself to hide her inner turmoil and insecurities is VERY MUCH in-character, and something I appreciate. The name-change/reveal is ultimately what I felt was unnecessary to me about her character. Otherwise, she has a very charming chemistry with Tom Holland's Peter. They legit interact like a real awkward high-school romance; neither of them really know what they're doing, but they somehow make it work.
@@thedefinitionisthis I could see where you’re coming about the whole name situation by saving it at the end, but I agree with everything else
They really do have a great vibe, her and Holland
I actually enjoyed ":Far From Home" even more than "Homecoming". Both are really good, but I think the fun factor is upped in this one. Also, I think the unsung hero of these two solo Spider-Man movies is the composer, Michael Giacchino. His scores really fit the tone and characters of these movies very well.
I enjoy this one more and more
Yes Winston that was so funny! Poor the Dude!
Oh The Dude is more than ok! He just pooped!
@@TheKristianHarloff poor little guy just wanted to be petted...lol
The drones shoot fire too
True
Another awesome discussion.
Thank you
I need to watch Far From Home again. I haven't seen it since it was in theaters. Even though I liked it, I remember not liking it was much as Homecoming, but that was only after one viewing. I need a refresh before No Way Home comes out.
I enjoy it more and more.
Far from home is a tough watch for me. I can’t wait for No way home though!
Ah fair enough, I find myself liking this one more and more.
Great Convo guys loved this one. In the actors born to play their super hero characters debate. To add to Jk as JJJ and Ryan Reynolds as Wade/Deadpool, and RDJ as Tony Stark I'll also throw in Hugh Jackman as Logan and Patrick Steward as Charles X. From the X-Men movies. I just think Hugh and Patrick elevate those characters so much. What do you guys think? Agree?
Those are good ones as well Ben!
I’m pretty sure those drones had flamethrowers at the end on the bridge in London so that would cover the fire with the elementals
That's what I thought as well.
I have an idea for the next rewatch series… How about the Scream franchise with Scream 5 coming out in January?
Def thinking about it
Great quality content 👍🏼
Thank you!
I love these episodes man. I hope you do all the Batman or x_men next. ❤️
Matrix next but Batman coming for sure.
@@TheKristianHarloff can’t wait my brother. ❤️
Another good show. Squirrel should be named Debo because he doesn't care if you see him or not long as he get his treats. Far from Home is a fun movie. They pulled off Mysterio which I thought never happen I'm with Coy and Winston that Beck is alive and he's the 6th of Sinister Six in next film.
I hope Holland does 3 more films than pass it to Miles Morales. Seems we got good actor who becomes Spider-Man and Peter Parker on and off screen like Henry Cavil does for Superman. I enjoyed the show lots of laughing and craziness like a good Friday night hanging out.
Ha Debo is great
I don't think Beck is alive. But like Coy says. Team Mysterio is still around and they have the fully rendered Holo-Beck. I think it's way more interesting to have Team Mysterio come back and use Beck as a ghost
I wonder!
@@TheKristianHarloff I mean I doubt they show back up, but it feels more fun that way if they ever do. My dream would be a Spidey show on D+. Just more time to really use all his badguys.
This feels like a movie that gets better with each watch. Had a total brain fart on anything else I was going to say
Feel the same
You should make a comic about the M&M stealing squirrel 😃😂🤣
Haha
You know I’ve seen people crap on Far from Home a lot recently, but I feel like the hate is a bit unfair and it’s a marginal improvement over Homecoming for me. I know Jon Watts kinda gets lump into with Peyton Reed and the Captain Marvel directors in terms of MCU directors with no particular style compare to like James Gunn or Taika, but I thought he stepped it up for this one in terms of the action sequences as you can tell he’s gotten used to it whereas Homecoming, you could tell he’s new at this. Especially that Mysterio sequence, one of the best scenes in not just the MCU and but in any Spider-Man movie. Interested to see how handles it with not just No Way Home but with Fantastic Four coming up.
I love what Peyton Reed did with the Ant-Man movies very underrated which is cool 👍 Jon watts is very similar but that’s cool man 😎I think both have done a great job with their movies giving them a more upbeat summer vibe…although No Way Home looks to be going for that witchy autumn vibe 🎥👍let’s hope they both carry on doing what they do great 👍
So curious how it will all tie in and this is a way to remove another classic Avenger away and let the new in.
@@TheKristianHarloff Idk I really hope Holland still stays in the MCU after this and not go over in the Sonyverse, like follow him when he’s in college.
enjoyed this movie, a great summer flick and JAKE G was solid
He was!
I actually don't know what to make of this movie. The parts where Peter is trying to woo MJ is sweet and relatable but then there are other parts where I am just like how dumb can a hero get. And then he is saved by Ironman again, this time not physically, but now with his tech.
It gets better for me each time.
@@TheKristianHarloff I just hope they explore the independent Spiderman. Without the parents aspect, the Ironman aspect, etc. I want to see Tom Holland's Spiderman actually be Spiderman where he figures out stuff by himself.
So, this is a total tangent, but I think Coy is one of the few dudes who can pull off a mustache and a soul patch and show up in a Ken Burns Civil War documentary as a soldier. “My dearest Mary, the war is far worse than I feared. I believe that the cause is just for no man, woman or child should be subject to the whims and cruelty of bondage to another. I only hope that this letter finds you well and pray that this terrible conflict can be ended swiftly. Earnestly and forever yours, Sergeant Coy Jandreau”
Hahahaha this is great.
Think about this: Civil War sets up Peter Parker and the villain who is eventually going to ruin his life and push him to the brink of doing a Men in Black memory wipe on the entire universe
I'd say that Mysterio is definitely Peter's archenemy in the MCU
Mysterio is a great villain
25:48 that will be a good ranking video. All MCU scores. To me Winter Soldier had the best score in all of MCU
Great score
I might be mistaken but wasn't there literally a sequence in the final act of the drones shooting out fire like a flamethrower and Spidey was on fire? Then he had this cool little stunt where he swung into the water to drown it out? I feel like that easily explains the fire elemental monster. So yeah, Spiderman's webs were really caught on fire. It wasn't fake.
Yeah think you are right
2:52 The Dude Sighting!
He rules
I LOVE this movie. Top 5 easy in the MCU for me.
It gets better for me each time
This is the one I’ve been waiting for
Hope you enjoy
@@TheKristianHarloff I will this is my second favorite Spider-Man movie Tom Holland is Spider-Man without a question there’s no one else who can play Spider-Man like Holland can he fits the role perfectly he brings what we all love from the comics and mysterio is my second favorite Spider-Man villain
Sorta Spider-Man related but Kristian, you should do a review on Tick, Tick…Boom! On Netflix. Lin-Manuel Miranda’s directorial debut is very entertaining and Andrew Garfield gives the performance of his career.
I am going to watch it soon!
I think the drones had flame throwers and other gadgets on them too. What you watching next fellas? .Thanks for the daily content and laughs.
Hey Phil! Agreed with the drone breakdown. As far as next rewatch, me Coy and Kate Mulligan watching Matrix to lead up to the new film
Best to Worst:
Spider-Man 2/2.1
Spider-Man
Spider-Man 3: Editor's Cut
The Amazing Spider-Man
Spider-Man 3: Theatrical Cut
Spider-Man: Homecoming
The Amazing Spider-Man 2
Spider-Man: Far From Home
Holland's version peaked with Civil War and the only reason I'm even excited for NWH is for obvious reasons. Far From Home was the first time I was mad leaving out of a Spider-Man film in theaters. My issues with SM3, TASM1, TASM2, and HC came on later viewings.
There is an editors cut of Spidey 3?
@@TheKristianHarloff Yes it came out for the movie's 10 Year Anniversary and before Homecoming. It's based on an earlier version of the movie. They added some scenes, removed some scenes, put scenes back into their original order to illustrate how much the Black Suit is affecting Peter, and the recycled music from the first two films is completely gone and replaced with Chris Young's original score. It's also two minutes shorter. It depends on how you feel about SM3 on whether you like the cut or not but it is a better version. There's still alot of deleted scenes that haven't seen the light of day though.
Spiderman : far from home screams Ironman JR everything about this movie is about Tony Stark
Sorry you feel that way!
Yooooo I was watching Into the Spiderverse and I realized that for Gwen, Peter was the lizard and died. What if we get Spider-Gwen and the lizard is her Peter. He technically died at the hands of Spider-Woman.
Is that how that happened?
@@TheKristianHarloff yeah I watched it yesterday and now I can't get the thought out of my head 🤔
It's early in the morning so no witty insight from me. I really enjoyed Far From Home. More than Homecoming, less than Raimi's Spider-Man 2. Will there be a ranking after Into the Spiderverse? Or after No Way Home?
We will probably do a ranking vid AFTER No Way Home
The two moments in Far From Home where I had to take a Last Jedi type break from watching was the Bus Drone scene and the AC DC scene.
I don't mind either of those.
Y'all just going to skip right over Patrick Stewart as Professor Xavier Pitch Perfect cast
He is pretty great yes
EVERYONE makes the Holly Hunter, Helen Hunt mistake. I do it all the time
Ha, Holly is not as common in actors so maybe that is why?
Holly Hunter's character in Incredibles in named Helen, so that adds to the Helen Hunt confusion.
The new spider man movies are good . But they don't use his spider since at all. But keep the show going. Watch them all . I do go back n re-watch them to
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Thank you Tim!
"IT'S AN ILLUSIONNNN!!!"
FFF YYEEEWWWEEWEWE
@@TheKristianHarloff "It's magiiiiiic..."
The biggest reveal of this movie…. is that Peter Parker was watching porn either before or after the big Avengers brawl in Germany.
Hahaha good call
/rantmode: on
Ok, let's talk about THE worst scene in any Spider-Man or MCU movie: Peter Parker in a Dutch jailcell/village.
I'm Dutch, and this scene really pisses me off.
Quick re-cap: Peter fought Mysterio in Germany, gets on a train, passes out and wakes up in a holding cell in the Dutch village Broek Op Langedijk.
First off: There is no way in hell Peter could've end up where he did.
So Peter is unconscious on a train from Germany to The Netherlands.
On this train there are conductors who check for tickets, one of them would've found Peter and tried to wake him up.
So, scenario 1: Peter wakes up.
He has no ticket and is clearly foreign. Police will be contacted and be waiting at the next station on the track.
Peter will be taken off the train and be detained in order to confirm his identity, quite possibly the US ambassy will be contacted to do so.
After his identity has been confirmed he'll be paying a fine for being on the train without a ticket, and put on a flight back to the USA.
Scenario 2: Peter doesn't wake up.
Police and an abulance will be contacted and be waiting at the next station on the track.
Peter will be taken off the train and to the nearest hospital, where doctors will examine him in order to get him to wake up.
While the doctors take care of Peter, police will try to establish his identity.
Once Peter's identity is established and he's feeling well again, he'll get a fine for riding the train without a ticket,
and be on the next flight to the USA.
If for some reason the train doesn't make an unscheduled stop to deal with this, they'll deal with it on the first scheduled stop,
which in The Netherlands for this train is Utrecht. Utrecht is about 60 miles south-east of Broek Op Langedijk.
If, by some miracle, no-one finds Peter until the train reached it final stop, he'd be in Amsterdam, which is 30 miles south of Broek Op Langedijk.
Also, the police wouldn't have taken him to Broek Op Langedijk, they'd've taken him to the nearest policestation.
And Broek Op Langedijk has no trainstation.
So can anyone explain to me how an unconscious Peter managed to stay hidden, get off the train at the final stop and travel 30 miles by bus to
Broek Op Langedijk?
Secondly: The depiction of Broek Op Langedijk and it's people.
1: Dutch holding cells don't look like that. In Dutch police stations people are contained in individual cells.
This is to prevent them from collaborating or hurting eachother.
These cells are small rooms with thick metal doors, not areas with bars.
2: No-one in The Netherlands wears the shirt of our national soccer-team if there's no match of the national team that day.
People do wear shirts of their favourite soccer teams, which in this case probably would've been Ajax, who hail from Amsterdam.
3: Broek Op Langedijk is a fairly modern village that looks nothing like the movie makes it look. (see link to Google Streetview below)
There are a couple of villages throughout The Netherlands that still look like a bit that, either because they are outdoor museums* or tourist-traps,
none anywhere near the track the train took though, so just as unlikely for Peter to end up in.
And we don't allow cattle to roam the streets freely, so the goat and the cow they put in this scene wouldn't be there.
(I know the scene was filmed in Spain, but they could've put more effort in making it look like The Netherlands, because this is insulting.)
/rantmode: off
*There are a couple of villages in The Netherlands that are labelled as 'museum', this is so they can be preserved and teach us about how things were in the past.
Link: www.google.nl/maps/@52.6742665,4.8059302,3a,75y,212.46h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sLOvHTqQDN7RV4XCWdpbVSA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DLOvHTqQDN7RV4XCWdpbVSA%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D212.45708%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Well to be fair there are also people flying in the sky and beings from other dimensions.
@@TheKristianHarloff If they had depicted L.A. (or New York) according to all the stereotypes there are about Americans, and also getting every other detail in that scene wrong, wouldn't you be offended?
This was another extremely enjoyable episode. :-)
Personally, my main issue with this movie is that the first 40 or so minutes felt like a complete "waste" to me. Spider-Man has always been my favorite hero growing up with and I was very much aware of who Mysterio is and that this *had to be* some kind of illusion. I think that this movie is way better for someone who didn't see the obvious twist coming, but as a long-time comic book reader that wasn't willing to check out their brain at the entrance of the cinema, it felt like a whole lot of build-up for absolutely no reward.
It was like watching a M. Night Shyamalan movie when someone else had already spoiled the twist for you - not all that enjoyable.
I think that the first confrontation between Spidey and Mysterio was the highlight of the movie. This was CGI done in the best way possible, it felt surreal (as it should have - it was all illusions after all) and it had a killer ending. While I'm not sure I agree with everything that came after that, especially how it was set up (apparently when you're Spider-Man and a high speed bullet train is running you over, you will just magically end up inside the train with no visible scratches or anything), the movie overall has a lot going for it. I tend to dislike the Spidey movies where Spidey wants to cop out and not deal with his responsibility - I think him understanding that, well, with great power comes great responsibility, is THE defining character trait and whenever the movies show him doubting that (Spider-Man 2 also comes to mind), I'm less of a fan.
I can still appreciate a lot of really good things in this movie, but it could never be my favorite Spider-Man movie and I think upon rewatching I'll end up liking it less for all the reasons given above.
Thank you once again SoulWarrior! Always glad to see the Warrior comment. This one does get better for me but I get your points!
*Cottage pie.😊
I believe Tom Holland was born to play this role. He genetically is growing with his character as we see him on screen over the years and it’s something we didn’t really get to witness with the previous two iterations of the character.
Yeah I agree.
I enjoy this movie overall but it totally undercuts its whole message with the scene of Peter in the plane where he's doing all the Iron Man stuff and the ACDC music plays in the background. It's supposed to be about him being his own man, and yet they still try to give him Tony Stark traits which only fuels the whole "Iron Man Jr" criticisms. Worst scene of all of Tom Holland's movies.
I don't see it that way but I see where you are going with the point.
This movie is better than most of the forgettable marvel sequels but it's still missing something .I wouldn't put this above spiderman 1 2 or homecoming I think I'd even put amazing spiderman 1 over this movie . I wasn't a fan of how dumb Peter was in this movie with the glasses and it looks like he's gonna make another dumb mistake in no way home .
Curious on how it will pan out!
The whole Edith plot with Mysterio and Stark took me completely out. I’m glad the No way home villains aren’t tied to Stark too
@@Kenji-fm8kf yea that was a little annoying like I get it and it made sense but I'm tired of Tony stark being the biggest villian in the mcu even in death lol.
This is one of my least favorite Spiderman movies. I just didn't care for this storyline at all. I did love Mysterio as the villian though.
It is funny I like this one more and more
Yea personally this is probably my least fav Spider-Man movie too. The jokes don’t land and I don’t really like Mysterio’s tie to Tony Stark. I sighed in the movie theater
Helen Hunt? You mean Holly Hunter?
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️😂😂😂
Hahaha
I agree all news lies, both sides are evil. I also love this film more every time. But I still like homecoming a little more cuz Michael Keaton, also my favorite actor of all time. I can't think of a movie he's bad in. I hope we get to see an adult Spiderman with Tom in Sony's universe. Since we never saw that. Also it'd be even more impactful cuz we watched him grow up as Spiderman.
I love this one
Let the English see you do it? I AM English!
Haha -Braveheart 1995
I love coy but his obsessive need to bash tobey maguire is getting irritating
Well there is only one more of these so...
@@TheKristianHarloff if i come across as as dick I apologize it jus gets kinda irritating thats all
@@jackhumphreys3534 don’t worry I’ll be sure to compare Keaton’s superiority as Batman to Tobey, and Kilmer’s, and Bales, and Affleck’s, and Pattinson’s, and…
@@CoyJandreau hahaha again sorry if I was a dick I'm jus a big Sam raimi/tobey fan
@@jackhumphreys3534 nag not at all man :) different strokes for different folks
coy's takes are annoying