Should You Buy a Hotone Ampero Stomp? My Honest Thoughts After Buying One
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I really think the Hotone Ampero Stomp is a bit underrated - each time I turn it on I am pleasantly surprised by how easy it is to dial in pretty decent tones, and the range of amp models rivals some much more expensive modelers....
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having used modelers since 1999 and having bought basically everything that can be bought, imho it all comes down to form factor now. i can dial in near identical sounds in all my modelers. all of them feel good, sound good and replace my tube amps just fine. we are living in the best of times as guitarists.
Agreed. Everything in recent years sounds good. Splitting hairs.....
have you tried Boss GT-1?
@@tarkgundogdu8940 yes. i have owned every gt ever made.
I wanted dual amp possibility and using my own IRs. This is my first digital platform and only use it at home in my " home studio " which means via my headphones or monitors. And for that it is perfect for me: it plays and responds like my real amp and the basic sounds are solid. I could buy an Valeton, Zoom, Helix, Headrush but somehow wanted something not so popular :) For now I am good although updating some of the effects would be nice once in a while
Thanks for the overview and demo. It's good to hear your thoughts on this one.
I have this device, and as a bedroom player, hobbyist it exceeds my expectations.
Totally fullfils my needs. I've never played with any other modelers so I don't know enough to compare. But running it in stereo through two fender Mustang gt amps and it sounds super high-definition and responsive.
Thanks.
The tone of your Strats are so good and dialled in. I been watching reviews on Strats online and couldn't find good tones, and whilst you are reviewing the pedal, you truly display the tone of the strat
It does have its limitations and pain points, but aside from sounding as good as the high dollar modelers, I think it has a unique feel thing going on. It just feels good to play through. Great video John
I really like my Ampero II Stomp. I've been using it more than my HX Stomp lately (with one of my bands and at most jams), mainly becasue it is much easier to dial in, and it supports a 12 block signal chain, allowing me to have fewer presets with more effects / amps available at once. The lack of snapshots and other control functions (Line 6 controllers for example) is very unfortunate, but I suppose with a good MIDI controller you can simulate them by sending a stack of bypass type msgs from one footpress. I do hope they come out with a solid and extensive update this year - as you mentioned, updates have been minimal. Also, the pitch effects are very weak, but the rest of the effects are quite good, and the amp models are very very good. I still use my HX Stomp for one of my bands, but if I had to, I could certainly replace it with the Ampero II Stomp. If you have an HX Stomp, you might or might not want this as a replacement. But if you are abou to buy something, the Ampero is like $200 cheaper than the HX, and competes reasonably well. If they added snapshots and more extensive MIDI control, I would sell my HX and get another Ampero as a backup device.
I hadn't previously done very many dual amp presets in the past. But after your video on the AC30 duals wanted to give it a try. 3.5 makes it easier to utilize more DSP. Love it!
Fully agree with you. I have the previous version and the amp modeling was already really good. Some effects were not as great as Line 6 (pitch shifting notably) but it is a great unit to practice. I also preferred it over the Mooer line. The Mooer GE sounded good for high gain but felt very stiff and did not respond well to dynamics / volume. The Hotone feels pretty good in terms of player response and cleans up relativelly well. I compared Hotone's pream models to several of my tube preamps and found it sometimes difficult to distinguish them.. The only points that I don't like are the presets which where junk (got better with Ampero 2) and the cab modeling which I replaced with IRs anyway. I would recommend it easily for someone who wants to edit its own sounds with a good quality/price ratio. If you just play presets, Choptones or others have nice preset packs that can save you a lot of time.
I definitely had the time of my life watching the first few mins of the video haha.. would love to see you go for a full on Eric Johnson clean or lead tone with this pedal one day.
One of the things I like about this form factor is that if something fails (like an expression pedal for example), it's easier to replace that one part of the chain rather than the whole thing. Same thing if you use a MIDI controller.. you can use it for this, or use it for something else.. or both. You can unplug the expression pedal for this and use it with a different fx or delay pedal. If you buy these at the right time you can pick them up even cheaper, and they are already pretty cheap compared to the high end brands. The hardware itself is really high quality, there's nothing cheap about it. There's a lot to choose from these days in terms of all price ranges. I prefer Fractal and Quad Cortex overall but they are super expensive in my country and I really like this Hotone stuff as a decent middle of the range option. Custom IR's open things up even further, and also.. using IRs instead of cab sims reduce the latency. Having a decent amount of IR slots and the ability for dual amp customizable chain is nice to have in this price range. It's also got a bit more DSP capability compared to HX Stomp.
Thanks, great job! More contents on Stomp II please!
I’ve always thought that Sax solo in the Dirty Dancing theme song was so fire! Pleasant surprise hearing it in that opener!
Thanks I was trying to place it. I swore it was a 90’s TV theme opening song or something till I saw your comment lol.
Have been using this unit for the last year or so. I've added an ampero control to add midi control, an ampero press for controlling volume/wah and an ampero switch because I had one.. I have an OC3 before the stomp, and a ditto looper in the FX loop.
Like John says, dialing in a good sound takes next to no effort. I play bass primarily, and noodle around with guitars. All Sire or Ibanez. Haven't sounded better in the nearly 20 years that I've been playing!
I have worked with software before, this is my first modeler. I was surprised of the flexibility and clear sound.
All the sounds I want, it can create better then I thought was possible. The patch options are great to include all kinds of sound options. I compared sounds between my JMP tube amp and the Ampero, using a Torpedo Capture and the Hotone's internal speaker sim's. The result was you would not hear the difference in a recording environment.
The down points would be, you can easily overload the the processor, because the amp models and some effects use a lot of resources. For a nice full sound, you should use the stereo enhancers to open up great sounds, because in a room environment you would here all kinds of reflexions too. To maximize the sound I use an analog graphic EQ that cuts of the low's and High's an scoop the Mid's some. The effect have some great ones, but also a lot I can live without, just because they are not really good f.i. the pitch functions, that are not smart, are mono and have to much latency, my 12 years old effect processor does a better job with those. But still it has all the good effects you need, like good Chorus, Delay's, Reverbs, Boosters and Compressors.
The speaker sim's have twice the amount of sample points then most of the existing modelers, and that matters imho.
In any price point I would recommend this unit for sure ! Specially for studio work. Using the excellent Send/Return option you can use full stereo external effects in any part of the sound chain, you can even separate the send and return, so you can place the return in a different part of the effect chain . Last and not least the user interface and editor are great no learning curve involved !!
I've had quite some multi fx pedals, from Zoom, to Mooer, to Boss CORE1000, but I never connected with any of them. I've got the Ampero since last weekend and I haven't stopped playing it over the past 5 days for a couple hours a day. The accessibilty really got me I think. Huge fan of how clear the lay-out is and the feel of the touch screen.
Better than GT1000 core then?
@@niloben659 In terms of accessibility and UI, 100%. I never got the most out of the Boss, as I didn't find it enjoyable to use and tweaks things. The terrible display is what I remember it for.
@@MeesterJoey think it sounds better as well?
great vid as always, bro 🔥
have you tried some of Zoom's Muliteffects? like their G1Four or G3xn? would like to see a review on that and how'd you approach on building patches and live gig use.
(I've had) The time of my life solo... Awesome😊 as always cordy...
Morning, John! Love the reference ( and your ripping playing on it of course ) . NOBODY PUTS BABY IN THE CORNER!
LOL
Until a little birdy pointed it out to me I didn't make the connection, but the head of the lead line is the sax solo from time of my life. Very very cool. Transcribing saxophone solos is usually only for snobby Jazz stuff, LOL.
Great video man, as always.
I have one question, if you could only choose one of the two, would you choose this ampero II or the Amplitube Tonex pedal?
Your playing is just beautiful.
Looks like Hotone has done a good job with this unit. Can the Touch Screen be controlled with the knobs instead of by touch?
I hope the Line 6 Modelers get an updat to HX Edit that also graphically represents the gear it is emulating, and includes some information about those pieces of gear for reference.
Hi everyone! I bought hotone 2 a week ago. My opinion:
Pros:
It's so easy to dial with it. Building a preset is very easy and logical. An big amount of different amps. They all sound very interesting, especially the cleans. I like to use drive pedals, so there are a lot of clean amp which deal with drive pedals so nice. There are a lot of signal paths, so you may experiment as you want. Reverbs and delays are awesome.
Cons:
3 knobs is not enough. You need 4 knob midi controller for more options. Pitch effects are horrible, but I'm using an additional octaver pedal. Some modulations are good enough, but some are not so impressive. Built in cabs are not impressive, so I'm using my own IR's and everything sounds excellent.
IMO this device worths more than it's price!
Can I ask how's the dsp limit? Some can only run 3 demanding blocks.
I bought this just as a multifx and don’t use the amp and cab sim. I like it for that purpose.
Hi John! Are you selling presets for ampero 2?
Can you configure the FS switches to activate immediately after pressing then instead of releasing? Valeton GP-200 only works as TAP function (press and release) or hold function. I can't just configure a single FS to just activate when pressing and this is driving me nuts.
If you're in the USA, Amazon often has this at $329 - making this almost a no-brainer to pick up when the BOSS/Line6 are going for $200-250 more.
Can you create a playlist with all your videos on the Ampero II?
Would like to hear your thoughts on the new flamma fx 200
Are you using studio monitors for processors ? If so, what kind of monitors do you have ?
I have the same HotOne Ampero Stomp II but I think mine might be defective because when I play it sounds nothing like when John plays.
Your playing is defective, it's not the unit.
Hey mate, I'm a subscriber to your preset drive... Could you make a "Last train home" John Mayer preset on the Ampero?
Does the PC Editor allow recording Dry via a PreFX Send?
Does it send sound via a WDM Driver to PC Sound?
LINE6 Toneport/Studio no longer does the latter thanks to Microsoft but does the former. For this it may require thw Virtual Cable by VB. Not tried that but Voicemeeter was not the solution.
It is just nice to use PC to mix sound for Standalone APPs rather than require the DAW.
Could you revisit the AS2 now that it was updated with scenes?
Actually this lead tone here is actually not that far off the last train home tone! Do you have the preset for this?
What's this like as an audio interface? I'm considering a dedicated audio interface, but wondering if this would suffice. Would mainly use for guitar and bass.
@gutless1108 unfortunately, no I didn't.
I've already got an iRig HD2 which I got for using with iPad, but can use with PC. It's annoying to use with PC due to its small size, the guitar cable always pulls it off then desk.
I've also got a Yamaha THR10X which works as an interface so just using these two options for now.
Are you running stereo out into an interface?
I’m considering something like this but correct me if I’m wrong, line 6 has one of the biggest communities/ecosystem as far as preset making and sharing? That could be a much bigger attraction to a helix/hx stomp unit
I own an ampero stomp...one down side is volume up down reaction...it is not that great at that. Turn the volume down to clean it up a bit and its not that smooth.
Hotone should add a glitch delay to their effects list.
Unfortunately, the lack of scenes is a no go for me. Too bad since the emulations sounded better than the HX stomp to my ears.
Good luck with the neighboring dogs ;)
Has multi FX devices destroyed the market for cheap pedals?
Can you do a headrush review?
Tried both and the Amperos pre sets are way better. The headrush sounded way too tinny and noisy for my tastes. Gain tones suck tbh. The Ampero is much easier to use. You'll spend hours on the headrush to dial it in to get a decent rig.
Find a modeler that works for you at a good price. The current modelers available are capable of great sounds, some better than others, some better for certain types of sounds (clean, crunch, hi-gain, etc.) than others.
I have a digital modeler I like; I have a versatile 4CM effects and digital/solid state amp rig I like; I have tube amps I like...
I have a new 100W tube amp head out for delivery today, and plan to get another 100W tube amp head in the near future.
While I enjoy my digital modeler and smaller rigs, still nothing like a 50 - 100W full or half stack for what I like to do on guitar. Yes, it's loud, but they make ear protection. 😁
Almost all the TH-camrs review this kind of products for their amp modelling ability. But there is a huge community who take these units in their pedalboards to take care of all the non-drive sounds. I'm not sure why these so-called TH-camrs don't get this point.
What I still don't understand is why they did not include in Ampero 2 stomp all the Xtomp Effects....there are so many great qualities FX missing in Ampero 2. I truly hope that after ending the development of Xtomp they put all its effects on Ampero 2 in the new Upgragde. I find the sound a bit better than Pod go and for gigging I use it together with 3 or 4 analog pedals ;)
Sick
Can IR’s be loaded?
Yes, and it comes loaded with a bunch of Celestion trademark IRs. It's good.
I don't need another amp emulator unless the effects are better than hx I don't see a use for it.
I thought it was pronounced “hot one” 😂
I believe it is.
It also gets pronounced "hot" "tone". Multiple TH-cam channels have said that's what the company told them. No idea which one is correct though. There's some interesting spelling with some English words so I guess anything is possible 😂
Ho Tone or Hot One??
The tone did not blow me away. I would spend a few hundred more and get into a lightly used FM3- worlds better. I do wish however Fractal would update their interface and get with the times. The PC editor is fine and they remain the tonal king. The on unit experience however, dare I say on all their devices leaves much to be desired. It's like the 80's are calling. They should learn from Neural. They also do not have capture or touch screens or a great looper or large scribble strips like the QC has. I am optimistic they will address most of this with future models. They really need to. I still easily prefer Fractal over any other modeler even with these shortcomings. I mean even the Hotone Ampero Stomp has a touchscreen. Come on now~!
The FM3 it cost 3 times the Ampero...
@@xavibsa Nope about double for a lightly used FM3 that is about 100x's better.
@@UTAH100 It's not even close to be 100x better.
It's honestly debatable if it is even better then the cheaper alternative, but some people still listen with their eyes =)
@@daniloberserk You are mostly wrong. I have had both. I wanted to love the Ampero II. There were things I preferred about the Ampero but they all had to do with the UI and Touchscreen display. That is where basically where it ended. Some of the cabs and clean tones were quite decent but not in the same league as anything Fractal.
You simply cannot compare it to the FM3 or FM9. Clearly you have played neither. It is not fair comparison. It does not come close to the FM3 where it counts the most- tone, feel, effects, DSP and options. If you are on a tight budget and can hold out for the Ampero III, it might be worth a look. I might even grab one simply as a very portable backup unit. The form factor and UI experience was great.
@@UTAH100 I see the Fractal FX8 reasonable used, is it a good unit?
No.
The company is connected with chinese defense, I wouldn't buy that garbage or even take it if you paid me to.
Interesting. I suppose all these types of things are made in China, but this fact might just turn me off to Hotone if true.
almost everything is made in china,personally i dont give a shiitttt about it,and if i must pay half price then even better.
still much better than any overpriced american and european products.
lmao dude wake up
do you realize EVERY company in communist China is tied into the government? that's why they call it communism ...