For anyone curious about what happaned to Carnage since: 1. He went around and killed a ton of civillians who hate symbiotes in Extreme Carnage, but was stopped by a team up between Flash Thompson and several other symbiotes And 2. He is currently going around from realm to realm and killing people in his own ongoing to restore his godlike powers
Actually, it was Cletus Cassidy *_himself_* that did the slaughter of all the literal xenophobe’s in the Extreme Carnage summer crossover event, as his conscienceness was still saved into the Symbiote Codex following the events of The King in Black. The Carnage that is trying to re-attain Godhood is the actual Carnage Symbiote, who personality-wise, is mostly just a copy of his usual host. Really this new Carnage series that stars the title Symbiote is demonstrating that the alien has a much more creative and inventive mind than the C- student Cletus.
"Carnage, his wife, and his dog are fighting the Demogoblin," was a non sequitur that made me laugh really hard and is now and forever a line that lives rent free in my head.
Carnage is quite literally a slasher villain; he’s a deranged serial killer, has killed many people creatively, and he just keeps coming back after he’s assumed to have perished once and for all.
@@redjirachi1 To be fair, at least the MCU aren’t afraid to permanently kill off their characters, but that’s an entirely different continuity from the comics, despite how much they want their audiences to believe that their movies take place in Earth-616.
@@FookMi69well, what with all the rumors about Marvel wanting to revive both Iron Man and Black Widow for the MCU, this comment has aged… a bit less gracefully than I would’ve liked
You left out the most outrageous part of Deadpool vs Carnage: Carnage's existential breakdown happens because Deadpool keeps finding him, no matter where he goes or who he decides to kill. Deadpool explains it's because they're both the same kind of crazy and Carnage just can't accept the idea that someone else is on his same mental wavelength. Also, Deadpool bonds with four or five other symbiotes in the finale
I feel like the Carnage saga is yet another instance of not knowing when to stop with a character. It just goes on and on to the point where even a really cool character like Carnage can become dull.
I imagine it's also a symptom of the passage of time marooning a character from his initial context. The further away we get from that Silence of the Lambs zeitgeist without evolving or reinterpreting Carnage, the duller his edge becomes. At a certain point "guy who kills people because he's CrAzY!?1" gets old.
It doesnt help that carnage is stuck in a non adult series hes a serial killer and a sadist. Any adaption is better then the watered down version from venom let there be carnage
Marvel was not lying when they called that one arc "Maximum Carnage" because goddamn is it borderline chaos. Also I love that Carnage was almost killed by _love_ , like he's a cartoon villain even by cartoon standards.
Contextualized as a timeline, I'm surprised Carnage was actually used as sparingly as he was. I thought he was this Uber powerful, nightmare villain from the nineties who got toned down over the years and became more of a different character's reoccurring villain, but I am pleased as punch to find out that even into the modern day, when Carnage makes an appearance, the wider Marvel Universe tends to take notice
A few things that you missed in the video: There's a 3 issue series called "Carnage: Black, White, and Blood" where a bunch of artists do their own short carnage stories. There's one where carnage makes a guy go insane and kill himself from the threat of Cletus Cassidy, there's one where a bullied young boy is talked to by Carnage, slowly convincing him to kill. And there's one where Carnage is a pirate. Also, carnage is a boss/level in Spiderman Shattered dimensions.
Idk, Dark and Devil Carnage were actually great designs. With the exposed spine highlighting how dead Cletus is. Also, in regards to your metaphor for his design, I guess thats why he bonded with a fish
I love how venom went from “I’m going to cause havoc and kill people!” to “Only people like pedos and animal abusers deserve death, but I’ll scare every robber half to death.”
I hate that they made him an anti-hero. Venom should be a hulk-like bad guy that eats people or drains people with this tendrils in a gory way. Honestly i don't like the whole symbiote mythology, i think they took things way too far. made it all goofy.
It’s obvious how the writers of spider man unlimited didn’t know carnage existed considering they thought he was venom’s brother and made him team up with venom
57:47 Watching Carnage doing Fortnite dances super fast while you talk about the painful reality that one cannot get the skin anymore is the funniest thing I’ve seen today. It feels like the red abomination is mocking you through the screen that you can’t have the skin.
The fact that you never mentioned that Carnage was one of the main antagonists of the first ever crossover between Spider-Man and Batman should be considered heresy. He legit disgusts the Joker and the comic opens with Batman having a nightmare about Carnage killing his parents. Carnage is dangerous enough to give BATMAN nightmares and make the JOKER disgusted. Let that sink in.
When I read the Maximum Carnage line, I was really happy Morbius appeared in the comic as a team member. Always liked when morbius interacts with other spider-man characters
You know, there’s a reason symbiote are my favorite villian types, there is actually no sugarcoating with these things. The lack of subtlety and flexibility both literally and narratively, most symbiote and symbiote storylines break down into what if venom but _____. Just finding the most wacky scenarios for symbiotes, fusing them with every character ever, it’s so damn fun. Carnage is just venom but more evil, so it’s way way more fun
There's a comic I have around my house somewhere called something like "into the venomverse" where its a bunch of alternate stories on things like "what if deadpool/wolverine/gwenpool/ghost rider had the venom suit. Its quite cool and I think you would enjoy it
Best thing is that the writers had a habit of reusing Carnage without addressing his previous appearance leading to a lot of instances where he's supposed to be dead as a doornail but still somehow shows up to work without explanation. At one point, Silver Surfer imprisons him in a material that he explicitly says nothing can get out of and Carnage spontaneously continues to appear without referencing it. I don't think any other character does that quite like he does but it is unintentionally funny.
Its pretty obvious most writers hate the character and tries to kill him off in a way he couldnt come back from. The Silver Surfer and Sentry encounters leads me to believe this
It's never shown but it's said that he utilizes his ability to rapidly shift his form to essentially "slip" out of the Silver Surfer's energy constructs. Remember that carnage wasn't frozen. He was encased. Believing he can be redeemed by silver surfer. But he can't. He can't even be frozen. Iceman exclaimed as he froze him "I don't think I can hold him much longer" -Then venom ate him but derranged cletus cassidy painted red would still escape on his own.- -Eventually he sensed another symbiote and escaped again... driven a truck into another dimension along with spiderman on his tail. Finds this other trapped symbiote and turns it into carnage- -Then after 1-2 more escapes. He gets freed with all inmates by electro and killed by sentry. NOT.- -Current canon is he fell from space back to earth and was retrieved by cult means. Carnage is extremely tolerable to fire now as he literally came back a meteor). He came back. The cult called him the red slayer, responsible for awakening knull- -The alternate version:- -He's still alive in space and retrieved from the brink of death by scientists who want his symbiote and gave cletus legs.- Props if you read all this and agree. you're a true Carange fan who now understands that *CARNAGE NEVER DIES!*
I think dark carnage is more weakened to the third rail is because he is bonded with a symbiote dragon and these more ancient version of the species are more connected to Knull who as a god of darkness his weakness is light. Modern symbiote that's stray from Knull's darkness like toxin has shown more resistance to fire and venom can absorb and shoot electricity like a lightning bender.
I always saw it as since the symbiotes spawned from Venom who took Spidey's abilities which included durability and Regen. Each one is more durable and has better regenerative ability
@@no.1spidey-fan182 I agree but spiderman isn't the sole reason. The symbiote are already tough on their own venom is somewhat of a champion, before it met Parker it bonded with multiple probably stronger hosts, inherited some power from its forefathers and if it's still canon venom is generation 998 making it super strong from birth. Also klytar become stronger the older they live and venom is old.
The FIRST Carnage story was probably his best! I used to really love Carnage, but I think that writers have lost their way with Cassidy. They just do the same old, same old with him. Thanks for doing this , though. It brought back some old (And fond.) memories .
Facts Absolute Carnage was just a mixture of Maximum Carnage, Carnage 2016 where he gets demon powers and Carnage USA when he takes over a town. Thats what happens when you MILK a character...you eventually run out of story to write
@@no.1spidey-fan182 yeah, except it was much better written, had bigger, yet more personal stakes, evolved the characters and was just a joy to read. I don't understand your "criticism".
To be fair, he isn’t exactly a deep character with complex motives. There isn’t much else you can do with a character that just wants to kill and nothing else. A Carnage story lives and dies by how good the other characters are written similar to what Drmantistobboganmd said.
@@Dr._Mantis_Toboggan_Md. My main point is that that doesn't change the fact that it was repetitive and STALE. Also the heroes had to be DUMBED down for Carnage to succeed😂 and Scorn character ASSASINATION. This man Carnage has taken over a city like 4 times at this point...and they have ZERO countermeasures...yh...sure💀. Not even SPIDERMAN? Or the GOVERNMENT? Carnage is a HULK LEVEL THREAT but he juat gets a PASS!!!!??? Yh aight. Also The fact that spiderman was treated as a NOTHING character in a story that wouldn't exist without him It had nice spectacle but underneath that the heroes were potrayed horribly, random thrown in plot points with symbiotes, like the codex. Same thing with King In Black...but to a much WORSE extent. And seriously...wings? are a big achievment for symbiotes, WINGS!?...literally any symbiote host with a BRAIN should be able to make wings since one of their MAIN abilities is SHAPE...SHIFTING...😭🤦♂️ Dont get me wrong I enjoyed the events Absolute Carnage more so but the art CARRIED both of these events🤷♂️
@@Wiki1184 so why not just STOP using his character. It got so BLAND they now have Carnage dimension hopping and stealing powers on a trip through ASGARD😭🤦♂️. Thats not unique...thats just SAD at this point
17:22 I like this part where Cap America randomly showed up and said "It's Cappin' Time" and proceeded to cap all over the trails of Carnage 27:16 IT'S CARNAGE TIME!
I feel like we need a green goblin history video next For being spider-mans worst enemy, that guy has a pretty scrambled timeline and I think a video to help keep track of it all would be neat
The power of the Third Rail is unquantifiable. It surpasses that of The Living Tribunal and rivals that of The One Above All. The very mention of the Third Rail sends shivers down the spines of eldritch gods, who can only cower helplessly if they ever have the misfortune of crossing paths with the unholy rail. The Third Rail is eternal. The Third Rail is.
I know comic histories tend to get wild but it's just so hilarious hearing the shit Carnage has gone trough. He was in prison, then not, he was big, tiny, legless, got his legs back, he's been killed - well actually not. Guy can't catch a break but I think he might actually like it this way.
Carnage is definitely my favorite comic villain of all time, I love his just unbridled insanity and chaos, Cletus Kasady is a very interesting character and carnage just amplifies him. I want them to do more with him though, mostly exploring Kasady.
Absolutely insane how you only have 2 videos up and they are both this good. The editing made it seem as if you have been at this for a long while!! Good job! It was really entertaining seeing how carnage evolved through the years as someone who is not all too familiar with the comics of the web slinger (I mostly sticked to spectacular spider man and Tobey’s movies). I can't wait to see what topics you tackle next! keep it up!
Carnage is BY FAR my favorite villain in Spiderman! Venom is cool, Green Goblin is also cool, but Carnage is just pure chaos. So good and I'm glad they teased him in the most recent game.
BRO this video is so high quality I was super surprised to see you don't have more subs. excited to see you're channel grow like crazy. extremely underrated bro
My maximum carnage paperback deteriorated in highschool and my little niece has always asked me "whats the deal with red Venom?". I can't wait to visit her and see her reaction to 20:09
The iconic status of Carnage makes the character suffer from success. He's an awesome villain and always poses a serious threat but you gotta do away with the villain, and that means he'll keep making comebacks, no matter how unreasonable. But that's superhero comics for you, nothing new under the sun. Still, I would love to see more of good boy Carnage, I imagine it would be much like Deadpool in Spider-Man and Deadpool, where Wade struggles but legit wants to be a good guy and do the hero stuff like the big names. Shit, imagine the banter of the Venom and Carnage symbiote bickering while Eddie tries to teach Cletus how not to be a complete psycho. Missed oportunities
Man, i will never get tired of the 90's computer stuff in comics. It's all just so deliciously goofy and cheesy. I especially like how they all completely misunderstood what the internet was and treated it like it was some kind of new alternate dimension made of computer code where anyone could get pulled in through their monitor. It's so stupid and I love it.
The name Chthon isn't Marvel's equivalent to Cthulu, he's an elder god IN the Cthulu Universe. He's not like Cthulu, he's literally a separate being in the mythos. It being public domain, it's perfectly legal to just use him. Hell, he pops up as a boss in Quake, also pretty much set in that same universe.
Just under 2,000 subscribers from two videos? That's very impressive. I haven't read much Marvel, let alone Spider-Man, so this was a really interesting and cool video to watch. Must've taken forever to edit all this. Thank you for your hard work in making these videos.
Is nobody going to mention that in Maximum Carnage literally every single time Venom went up against Carnage 1vs1, Venom was winning and had the upper hand. And, towards the end, he was also basically beating the absolute crap out Carnage (again, by himself only) before Carnage was saved by Spidey several times from death.
Amazing video, thank you do much, my only complaint is that there isnt more lol. Id like one on venom or, specifically all of the OTHER symbiotes besides those 2
I also remember have appreciated Mark Bagley a lot,as designer.The specialist of body shape.All characters are Fit Top models or very fine athletes,in his universe.🙂👍🏾.
I wouldn't say Carnage is the most dangerous villain. The one with the biggest body count maybe, but in terms of who is more dangerous Doctor Octopus attempted to kill off the entire planet Earth at least once. That and considering that Norman Osborn happened to get in control of the U.S. armed forces and invade Asgard I'm guessing he has Carnage beat there too.
I think it'd only be natural for you to cover Venom in this fashion at a later date. An extensive analysis of this quality would be amazing to see for the character.
The mistake carnage made is that he mistreated Shriek and his comrades were losing faith in him Treating them with respect is what a bad guy should do if they push off their ego and pride
My obsession with Carnage/Cletus Kasady springs up randomly every couple of years. Just like his presence in a comics crossover event. God, I love this cockroach of a character.
7:06 Dumb question? And it's a question I ask all the time because New York but WHY DOESN'T SPIDEY ASK THE HUMAN TOURCH TO HELP?! I thought fire was Carnage's weakness!? And the Human Tourch lives in New York right? WHY ISN'T HE HELPING?! I was watching the 6 forgotten warriors episodes last night and a plot hole I couldn't shake from my brain was "WHY AREN'T THE OTHER HEROES HELPING AT THE UN?! WE'VE MET SO MANY IN THE COURSE OF THIS SERIES! Shouldn't the Punisher at the very least be there!?"
I clicked on this video not for carnage, but for the Spider-Man J profile pic and I’m glad I did I really enjoy this channel and can’t wait to see what you do next👍🏽
Between you and Alex Lennen, British guys explaining spiderman has become my new favorite genre of TH-cam
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I'm British so maybe I can join the club sometime 👀
For anyone curious about what happaned to Carnage since:
1. He went around and killed a ton of civillians who hate symbiotes in Extreme Carnage, but was stopped by a team up between Flash Thompson and several other symbiotes
And 2. He is currently going around from realm to realm and killing people in his own ongoing to restore his godlike powers
Actually, it was Cletus Cassidy *_himself_* that did the slaughter of all the literal xenophobe’s in the Extreme Carnage summer crossover event, as his conscienceness was still saved into the Symbiote Codex following the events of The King in Black.
The Carnage that is trying to re-attain Godhood is the actual Carnage Symbiote, who personality-wise, is mostly just a copy of his usual host. Really this new Carnage series that stars the title Symbiote is demonstrating that the alien has a much more creative and inventive mind than the C- student Cletus.
@@Popcultureguy3000 Should have mentioned that the character in EC was Cleetus. Thanks for noticing my oversight!
How did he come back from being cut in half?
Didn't Carnage get dead during the King in Black run?
@@8Fozzy7 No. Carnage did not die during that run
"Carnage, his wife, and his dog are fighting the Demogoblin," was a non sequitur that made me laugh really hard and is now and forever a line that lives rent free in my head.
I am so surprised that the Carnage hacking into the laptop in Let There Be Carnage actually happened. That is absolutely insane
I mean he did kill someone through the phoneline.
"actually happened" hehe, comic book reality
I honestly didn't know how to react. On one hand it waa hilariously dumb and funny, but then again it seemed just too stupid.
comic book rules are the best bc of random funny silly stuff like this
That’s the 90s for you, weird, but enjoyable as hell
If I had a dollar for every time someone decided to deal with Carnage “once and for all” I would be rich
Carnage is quite literally a slasher villain; he’s a deranged serial killer, has killed many people creatively, and he just keeps coming back after he’s assumed to have perished once and for all.
If I had a dollar for every time they didn't keep the villain dead because people like the character, I could out-buy the Disney Company
@@redjirachi1 To be fair, at least the MCU aren’t afraid to permanently kill off their characters, but that’s an entirely different continuity from the comics, despite how much they want their audiences to believe that their movies take place in Earth-616.
@@FookMi69well, what with all the rumors about Marvel wanting to revive both Iron Man and Black Widow for the MCU, this comment has aged… a bit less gracefully than I would’ve liked
@@KeDe1606 Oh yeah.. Those are awful choices too. Bringing back Tony would just make Endgame’s ending feel much less impactful
“ carnage has a gun” has to be my favourite line
"Spiderman has a gun"
Venom in the beginning really reminds of the way he acted in the PS1 Spiderman game. His design was terrifying but he was also goofy.
Goofy venom is best venom. I love the way they potray him in both instances
Absolutely agree. Funny and scary.
"Surf the web, surf the web!"
-Venom
"spider- wuss , come out and play"
His design is cool. Not "terrifying."
You left out the most outrageous part of Deadpool vs Carnage:
Carnage's existential breakdown happens because Deadpool keeps finding him, no matter where he goes or who he decides to kill. Deadpool explains it's because they're both the same kind of crazy and Carnage just can't accept the idea that someone else is on his same mental wavelength.
Also, Deadpool bonds with four or five other symbiotes in the finale
i actually really enjoyed that, its just two crazy people duking it out crazy style
Deadpool is a gary stu creators pet for writers edgelord fantasy, so I don't really care if he does get the better of Carnage.
Isn't that also when Deadpool gives the symbiotes to a dog?
@@alucardsantradideus267It is
I feel like the Carnage saga is yet another instance of not knowing when to stop with a character. It just goes on and on to the point where even a really cool character like Carnage can become dull.
It’s kinda a Batman who Laughs situation
Thaaaats comics for ya~
That is because Marvel is a low form of storytelling. It's WWE but in comic panels. It's all just simple entertainment for 12 year olds.
I imagine it's also a symptom of the passage of time marooning a character from his initial context. The further away we get from that Silence of the Lambs zeitgeist without evolving or reinterpreting Carnage, the duller his edge becomes.
At a certain point "guy who kills people because he's CrAzY!?1" gets old.
It doesnt help that carnage is stuck in a non adult series hes a serial killer and a sadist. Any adaption is better then the watered down version from venom let there be carnage
Marvel was not lying when they called that one arc "Maximum Carnage" because goddamn is it borderline chaos.
Also I love that Carnage was almost killed by _love_ , like he's a cartoon villain even by cartoon standards.
The fact that one of Marvel's edgiest antagonists (which is, y'know, saying a lot) solely cares for a stuffed bear named "binky" is kind of hilarious.
And also extra terrifying.
Bane also does the same thing in DC
It was the only friend of his that used to be friendly to him. He still burned him and everyone in the orphanage tho
The thought of Carnage . . . well, spreading carnage while singing Free Bird is one of the funniest things ever
Contextualized as a timeline, I'm surprised Carnage was actually used as sparingly as he was. I thought he was this Uber powerful, nightmare villain from the nineties who got toned down over the years and became more of a different character's reoccurring villain, but I am pleased as punch to find out that even into the modern day, when Carnage makes an appearance, the wider Marvel Universe tends to take notice
God damn captain america shows up twice when this dude escapes, this dude is a threat
A few things that you missed in the video:
There's a 3 issue series called "Carnage: Black, White, and Blood" where a bunch of artists do their own short carnage stories. There's one where carnage makes a guy go insane and kill himself from the threat of Cletus Cassidy, there's one where a bullied young boy is talked to by Carnage, slowly convincing him to kill. And there's one where Carnage is a pirate.
Also, carnage is a boss/level in Spiderman Shattered dimensions.
Aslo they didnt mention ANY of the Absolute Carnage Immortal Hulk run.
Carnage’s design has declined so hard since the 90’s. He has essentially looked like a slippery wet fish alien for the last 20+ years
He’s looked like shit design wise for the last 20 plus years. In absolute Carnage he looked amazing tho
in my opinion, the red should look like guts, since he is so blood thirsty.
The lack of black really kills it.
Yeah, all except his demonic looking form in absolute carnage
Idk, Dark and Devil Carnage were actually great designs. With the exposed spine highlighting how dead Cletus is.
Also, in regards to your metaphor for his design, I guess thats why he bonded with a fish
I love how venom went from “I’m going to cause havoc and kill people!” to “Only people like pedos and animal abusers deserve death, but I’ll scare every robber half to death.”
Bet’ah 😂 Bri’ish
I hate that they made him an anti-hero. Venom should be a hulk-like bad guy that eats people or drains people with this tendrils in a gory way. Honestly i don't like the whole symbiote mythology, i think they took things way too far. made it all goofy.
@@John-X The Venom you want is the one from Ultimate Spider-Man
@@yancgc5098 i don't like the ultimates universe tho.
@John-X I'm pretty sure Venom was like that for a long time, be was only ever a mindless carnivore in the Ultimate universe.
Man, this whole rollercoaster just made me remember how much of a fever dream the 90's really where
*Never change 90's... Never change...*
You know he’s bad when he’s the villain’s villain.
"Nevermind, he's alive" - this video in a nutshell
Bruh carnage made the most calmest "yeah" while being double teamed at 6:41
Peter saying "What's with the WE" when being FORCED to work with Venom and Black Cat is hilarious😂
Carnage has always been my favourite Spider-Man villain, and I think this video did him a great justice. Thanks!
It’s obvious how the writers of spider man unlimited didn’t know carnage existed considering they thought he was venom’s brother and made him team up with venom
57:47 Watching Carnage doing Fortnite dances super fast while you talk about the painful reality that one cannot get the skin anymore is the funniest thing I’ve seen today. It feels like the red abomination is mocking you through the screen that you can’t have the skin.
The fact that you never mentioned that Carnage was one of the main antagonists of the first ever crossover between Spider-Man and Batman should be considered heresy. He legit disgusts the Joker and the comic opens with Batman having a nightmare about Carnage killing his parents.
Carnage is dangerous enough to give BATMAN nightmares and make the JOKER disgusted. Let that sink in.
When I read the Maximum Carnage line, I was really happy Morbius appeared in the comic as a team member. Always liked when morbius interacts with other spider-man characters
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Morbin' Morb Morb.
Morbin time.
Oh hello my fellow Morbheads!
"intriguing" -morbius
that character will forever be ruined by the movie, Marvel can never use him again lmao
You know, there’s a reason symbiote are my favorite villian types, there is actually no sugarcoating with these things. The lack of subtlety and flexibility both literally and narratively, most symbiote and symbiote storylines break down into what if venom but _____. Just finding the most wacky scenarios for symbiotes, fusing them with every character ever, it’s so damn fun. Carnage is just venom but more evil, so it’s way way more fun
There's a comic I have around my house somewhere called something like "into the venomverse" where its a bunch of alternate stories on things like "what if deadpool/wolverine/gwenpool/ghost rider had the venom suit. Its quite cool and I think you would enjoy it
Best thing is that the writers had a habit of reusing Carnage without addressing his previous appearance leading to a lot of instances where he's supposed to be dead as a doornail but still somehow shows up to work without explanation.
At one point, Silver Surfer imprisons him in a material that he explicitly says nothing can get out of and Carnage spontaneously continues to appear without referencing it.
I don't think any other character does that quite like he does but it is unintentionally funny.
Its pretty obvious most writers hate the character and tries to kill him off in a way he couldnt come back from. The Silver Surfer and Sentry encounters leads me to believe this
They explain how he escaped but I can't remember
It's never shown but it's said that he utilizes his ability to rapidly shift his form to essentially "slip" out of the Silver Surfer's energy constructs. Remember that carnage wasn't frozen. He was encased. Believing he can be redeemed by silver surfer. But he can't.
He can't even be frozen. Iceman exclaimed as he froze him "I don't think I can hold him much longer"
-Then venom ate him but derranged cletus cassidy painted red would still escape on his own.-
-Eventually he sensed another symbiote and escaped again... driven a truck into another dimension along with spiderman on his tail. Finds this other trapped symbiote and turns it into carnage-
-Then after 1-2 more escapes. He gets freed with all inmates by electro and killed by sentry. NOT.-
-Current canon is he fell from space back to earth and was retrieved by cult means. Carnage is extremely tolerable to fire now as he literally came back a meteor). He came back. The cult called him the red slayer, responsible for awakening knull-
-The alternate version:-
-He's still alive in space and retrieved from the brink of death by scientists who want his symbiote and gave cletus legs.-
Props if you read all this and agree. you're a true Carange fan who now understands that *CARNAGE NEVER DIES!*
I think dark carnage is more weakened to the third rail is because he is bonded with a symbiote dragon and these more ancient version of the species are more connected to Knull who as a god of darkness his weakness is light.
Modern symbiote that's stray from Knull's darkness like toxin has shown more resistance to fire and venom can absorb and shoot electricity like a lightning bender.
I always saw it as since the symbiotes spawned from Venom who took Spidey's abilities which included durability and Regen. Each one is more durable and has better regenerative ability
@@no.1spidey-fan182 I agree but spiderman isn't the sole reason. The symbiote are already tough on their own venom is somewhat of a champion, before it met Parker it bonded with multiple probably stronger hosts, inherited some power from its forefathers and if it's still canon venom is generation 998 making it super strong from birth. Also klytar become stronger the older they live and venom is old.
Dark Carnage being part dragon makes him weak against lightning damage. Spidey and Venom should've used Gold Pine Resin
@@nb2044they must of sprinkled some on their rail track weapon
@@nb2044 Or infuse his symbiote with a lightning gem.
I just love venom in maximum carnage, he's literally the definition of your brain when you grab a knife telling you to kill everyone
The idea of carnage’s memorial playing freebird on blast 24/7 is hilarious and amazing. I think car accidents would rise nearby though.
The FIRST Carnage story was probably his best! I used to really love Carnage, but I think that writers have lost their way with Cassidy. They just do the same old, same old with him. Thanks for doing this , though. It brought back some old (And fond.) memories .
Facts Absolute Carnage was just a mixture of Maximum Carnage, Carnage 2016 where he gets demon powers and Carnage USA when he takes over a town. Thats what happens when you MILK a character...you eventually run out of story to write
@@no.1spidey-fan182 yeah, except it was much better written, had bigger, yet more personal stakes, evolved the characters and was just a joy to read. I don't understand your "criticism".
To be fair, he isn’t exactly a deep character with complex motives. There isn’t much else you can do with a character that just wants to kill and nothing else.
A Carnage story lives and dies by how good the other characters are written similar to what Drmantistobboganmd said.
@@Dr._Mantis_Toboggan_Md. My main point is that that doesn't change the fact that it was repetitive and STALE. Also the heroes had to be DUMBED down for Carnage to succeed😂 and Scorn character ASSASINATION.
This man Carnage has taken over a city like 4 times at this point...and they have ZERO countermeasures...yh...sure💀. Not even SPIDERMAN? Or the GOVERNMENT? Carnage is a HULK LEVEL THREAT but he juat gets a PASS!!!!??? Yh aight. Also The fact that spiderman was treated as a NOTHING character in a story that wouldn't exist without him
It had nice spectacle but underneath that the heroes were potrayed horribly, random thrown in plot points with symbiotes, like the codex. Same thing with King In Black...but to a much WORSE extent.
And seriously...wings? are a big achievment for symbiotes, WINGS!?...literally any symbiote host with a BRAIN should be able to make wings since one of their MAIN abilities is SHAPE...SHIFTING...😭🤦♂️
Dont get me wrong I enjoyed the events Absolute Carnage more so but the art CARRIED both of these events🤷♂️
@@Wiki1184 so why not just STOP using his character. It got so BLAND they now have Carnage dimension hopping and stealing powers on a trip through ASGARD😭🤦♂️. Thats not unique...thats just SAD at this point
19:09 "he dies.... no he doesn't" I CANTTTT-
Something about Carnage having a gun is amazing and it cracks me up
17:22 I like this part where Cap America randomly showed up and said "It's Cappin' Time" and proceeded to cap all over the trails of Carnage
27:16 IT'S CARNAGE TIME!
monkey see monkey do
Wow, that was an amazing video! Looking forward to watch more of your content!
thanks so much!
@@lumisweb after watching this one and the spider punk one, I just want to see more videos like this
really great content
@@yanislul6436 plenty more coming! i've got an endless list of topics
I feel like we need a green goblin history video next
For being spider-mans worst enemy, that guy has a pretty scrambled timeline and I think a video to help keep track of it all would be neat
The power of the Third Rail is unquantifiable. It surpasses that of The Living Tribunal and rivals that of The One Above All. The very mention of the Third Rail sends shivers down the spines of eldritch gods, who can only cower helplessly if they ever have the misfortune of crossing paths with the unholy rail. The Third Rail is eternal. The Third Rail is.
6:11
All I can think of is Venom at the computer:
“Surf the web! Surf the web!” 😆
"carnage finds a random baby, and throws him out the window" why did I laugh so much-
Love it when A Superhero and a Supervillain Team up
Like Batman and the Joker
Always sends chills and a huge grin on my face
The art in Maxminum Carnage is AMAZING. It aged so well💯
Ok, so I just have to assume Human Torch really wanted to go to the beach because he bailed on the part where he could have been most useful.
He's been through a lot we got...
*LEGO CARNAGE*
Genuinely great video, a proper rundown of a character that's not either 15 minutes of stating the obvious or overly focused on one version/run.
Love when a channel just pops up, drops an hour long banger, then does it again
That Maximum Carnage game was a ballbuster. That and Comix Zone had me stuck for weeks as a kid.
Seeing how similar let there be carnage is to maximum carnage I’m sad we never got Venom teaming up with Morbius like in that story.
I know comic histories tend to get wild but it's just so hilarious hearing the shit Carnage has gone trough. He was in prison, then not, he was big, tiny, legless, got his legs back, he's been killed - well actually not. Guy can't catch a break but I think he might actually like it this way.
Surprised you only have 2 vids please make more like this!
Carnage is definitely my favorite comic villain of all time, I love his just unbridled insanity and chaos, Cletus Kasady is a very interesting character and carnage just amplifies him. I want them to do more with him though, mostly exploring Kasady.
This is so well done. Kudos. Do more hero/villain analysis stuff, this was good watch
Absolutely insane how you only have 2 videos up and they are both this good. The editing made it seem as if you have been at this for a long while!! Good job! It was really entertaining seeing how carnage evolved through the years as someone who is not all too familiar with the comics of the web slinger (I mostly sticked to spectacular spider man and Tobey’s movies). I can't wait to see what topics you tackle next! keep it up!
thank you so much!! more on the way :] ✨️
Carnage is BY FAR my favorite villain in Spiderman! Venom is cool, Green Goblin is also cool, but Carnage is just pure chaos. So good and I'm glad they teased him in the most recent game.
BRO this video is so high quality I was super surprised to see you don't have more subs. excited to see you're channel grow like crazy. extremely underrated bro
thank you!
@@lumisweb TOLD YOU BRO, look at that you're already almost at 2k subs dude, congrats!
@@Biobolical 🥳🎉
Criminally underrated channel! Definitely subbed. Laughed out loud on the delivery of "Carnage finds a baby.... and throws it out a window."
Incredible video! Its clear that a lot of effort has been put into this. Definetly subscribing! Keep up the great work!
You just got Heisenberg's Respect
I can't bloody believe they let carnage live so many times, only for him to whoop them over and over again
My maximum carnage paperback deteriorated in highschool and my little niece has always asked me "whats the deal with red Venom?". I can't wait to visit her and see her reaction to 20:09
i love this comment
You knew what you was doing with the sleep music in the background😂 but for real, glad I found this channel! Love the chill style
I know half a mil is a lot, but this deserves more views than that.
This video is great! Keep ‘em coming. Maybe with Venom or the other symbiotes as a follow-up video?
The iconic status of Carnage makes the character suffer from success. He's an awesome villain and always poses a serious threat but you gotta do away with the villain, and that means he'll keep making comebacks, no matter how unreasonable. But that's superhero comics for you, nothing new under the sun. Still, I would love to see more of good boy Carnage, I imagine it would be much like Deadpool in Spider-Man and Deadpool, where Wade struggles but legit wants to be a good guy and do the hero stuff like the big names. Shit, imagine the banter of the Venom and Carnage symbiote bickering while Eddie tries to teach Cletus how not to be a complete psycho. Missed oportunities
Man, i will never get tired of the 90's computer stuff in comics. It's all just so deliciously goofy and cheesy.
I especially like how they all completely misunderstood what the internet was and treated it like it was some kind of new alternate dimension made of computer code where anyone could get pulled in through their monitor.
It's so stupid and I love it.
I am actually surprised that this level of production and humor don't have like 120k subs...
The name Chthon isn't Marvel's equivalent to Cthulu, he's an elder god IN the Cthulu Universe. He's not like Cthulu, he's literally a separate being in the mythos. It being public domain, it's perfectly legal to just use him. Hell, he pops up as a boss in Quake, also pretty much set in that same universe.
Sean Voicing carnage was a damm surprise to think he could go from Goku to Carnage is wild
Carnage is the Joker version of Spider-Man
For a first video this is insanely impressive. Excellent work on analyzing my favorite marvel villain 👍
Just under 2,000 subscribers from two videos? That's very impressive. I haven't read much Marvel, let alone Spider-Man, so this was a really interesting and cool video to watch. Must've taken forever to edit all this. Thank you for your hard work in making these videos.
thank you so much, I really appreciate it!
I would absolutely love if you did a video on Mayday Parker from the MC2 universe.
Summary of carnage’s story “so then I died, but I lived”
Love the video man, commentary was top notch lmao
Carnage is my favorite villain same reason why I think people like Jack Horner from puss in boots, he’s evil, just because he wants to be
Is nobody going to mention that in Maximum Carnage literally every single time Venom went up against Carnage 1vs1, Venom was winning and had the upper hand. And, towards the end, he was also basically beating the absolute crap out Carnage (again, by himself only) before Carnage was saved by Spidey several times from death.
Carnage is the most Deadliest, Goriest, Bloodiest Villain Spider man and Venom has ever Faced.
Lies.
23:16 i love how you used the unlocalized game's pursuit theme
Great vid bud
Awesome! I’d love to see an Electro or Green Goblin video next
Damn I sat through this entire thing. Carnage is THAT interesting of a character.
Amazing video, thank you do much, my only complaint is that there isnt more lol. Id like one on venom or, specifically all of the OTHER symbiotes besides those 2
i'm thinking of making a venom video for halloween!
liked for being a good video, subscribed for the battle network reference
44:26 the “But officer, you gotta understand, Free Bird is playing” meme applies to Carnage so fucking much
This is such a great video! I'm really glad I found you! Keep The great work. Your channel will be amazing
Venom: I am the most dangerous Spider-Man villain
Red goblin: try me bitc…
Morlun: lol
I also remember have appreciated Mark Bagley a lot,as designer.The specialist of body shape.All characters are Fit Top models or very fine athletes,in his universe.🙂👍🏾.
I wouldn't say Carnage is the most dangerous villain. The one with the biggest body count maybe, but in terms of who is more dangerous Doctor Octopus attempted to kill off the entire planet Earth at least once.
That and considering that Norman Osborn happened to get in control of the U.S. armed forces and invade Asgard I'm guessing he has Carnage beat there too.
Carnage became a dark god that summoned knull and brought the end of the 616 universe 💀💀💀
Carnage is a universal threat now.
Very informative, much appreciated
I think it'd only be natural for you to cover Venom in this fashion at a later date. An extensive analysis of this quality would be amazing to see for the character.
Thank you for making this video. Maximum Carnage is crazy. Also thank you for helping me remember Cardiac from Issue 345
The mistake carnage made is that he mistreated Shriek and his comrades were losing faith in him
Treating them with respect is what a bad guy should do if they push off their ego and pride
"cool, bank robbers time to stop th-- carnage has a gun....." LOL i freaking hollered
Venom consistently remains the best character in the 'Maximum Carnage' issues
My obsession with Carnage/Cletus Kasady springs up randomly every couple of years. Just like his presence in a comics crossover event.
God, I love this cockroach of a character.
The symbiote in the Venom movies was a lot more accurate to the comics than most will admit.
My favorite part of maximum carnage is when Cloak is mourning the death of Dagger and Spider-man just goes “chill out, move on”
7:06 Dumb question? And it's a question I ask all the time because New York but WHY DOESN'T SPIDEY ASK THE HUMAN TOURCH TO HELP?! I thought fire was Carnage's weakness!? And the Human Tourch lives in New York right? WHY ISN'T HE HELPING?! I was watching the 6 forgotten warriors episodes last night and a plot hole I couldn't shake from my brain was "WHY AREN'T THE OTHER HEROES HELPING AT THE UN?! WE'VE MET SO MANY IN THE COURSE OF THIS SERIES! Shouldn't the Punisher at the very least be there!?"
I clicked on this video not for carnage, but for the Spider-Man J profile pic and I’m glad I did I really enjoy this channel and can’t wait to see what you do next👍🏽
Cletus Kassidy is a menace in the spider-Man the animated series he was terrifying I was traumatized😅