@@samigh95 Dr. Sam Harris is brilliant So I’m immediately suspect of your knowledge and training. He has a doctorate what is your academic preparation?
I get that. I have a friend from Sudan, and even though I'm an atheist myself, it took him three years before he confessed he's an atheist. He didn't wait with admitting he was an atheist because he was afraid of my judgement, but because he was afraid I might tell his immigrant friends. I never assumed he was muslim btw, I just didn't assume he was irreligious either. He wouldn't openly express either when we discussed the matter, he'd be vague and avoid the question.
the Jews rejected their Messiah , so God rejected them , God is Sovereign , this man will not even get to see the Lord let alone have an argument with Him the arrogance of men know no limit neither does the power of God , let that sink in
My beliefs don’t require membership, control, propagation or worship. They are free to change and evolve as I change and learn new things throughout my life.
@@mcoo465 I’m sorry, but no, you don’t “got it” and you’re an idiot. I guess with that kind of interpretation, I shouldn’t be surprised that you’re incapable of understanding the simple concept of having spiritual beliefs that aren’t prepackaged with contradictions and handed to you for cherry picking, but rather malleable beliefs that reflect reality instead of contradicting it and are open to change as you learn new things.
@spikeybaby1735 my studies and research reveal a few very sorrowful facts about so called pseudo intellectuals like Mr.Hitchens....no foundation since he was a rudder with no Ship
@@Youboremenow Not if the majority of people in that nation are uneducated, ignorant and so backward as to believe without evidence in a magical man in the sky that grants wishes and they read a book that approves of slavery complete with instructions on how to treat one’s slave as well as declaring women are inferior to men. So the answer is YES but only if the people of that nation are educated, logical and rational 😂
He has (maybe) spoken the truth about some guy who see's himself as something special and said shit about Islam which isn't true. But he has not spoken anything about real Islam. Don't fall for the same shit ppl fall since 100 years, making the west hate muslims and arabs. It's the same agenda since 100 years.
Exactly; Matthew 7:15-20, Jesus warns his followers of false prophets: "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles?
I would argue that fundamentalists - those who follow their religion more accurately than most people - are the most accurate people to judge a religion by. Yes, lots of people don't take their religion seriously and are very good people. But thats beside the point of analysing the religion itself.
I would agree with you on that, the moderates are not what you judge it by its the fundamentalists. I am a christian and to me being a fundamentalist is following what Jesus said and the bible by feeding the poor, loving our enemies, fighting abortion and sex slavery, slavery, adoption, and every ritchous thing we can, and being willing to die and not deny he who saved us. Jesus loves you too. Peace th-cam.com/video/IXdjDNKCeHM/w-d-xo.html
Actually very true, I respect Hitchins for being critical of Islam, most atheists go for the easy option and attack Christianity. The first could get you killed, the second is highly likely not to get you killed.
No, we should absolutely judge a religion by its fundamentalists because they (claim) to be following its fundamental ideas. As such, they are basically the representatives of the actual beliefs of the religion. Its also worth noting that I dont think I've ever heard a moderate member of the religion stand up and say 'no, those people dont represent me'.
@ngcastronerd4791 there are several major world religions that fall under that umbrella. Each with their own distinct collection of various doctrines that establish what it is exactly that each believes. .... So, is it just all of their doctrines are inherently evil, or is there an actual example of something specific that could support that assertion? ....you know, evidence and all that,...
Brilliant speaker and very rarely had an equal in debate. He could also take it as well as give. Opponent would quite often tread carefully because if you started to get personal you were in for quite a lashing , verbally of course. “What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." And an excellent sense off humor. Miss him
Where is the class action suit against the Catholic Church by all of the children all over the world? In a just world the Catholic Church would have been bankrupted by now and Vatican City sold to real estate developers.
A religious organization, absolutely. Suing a religion itself wouldn’t make any sense. It would be like trying to sue the concept of hypocrisy or narcissism.
@@tljsucks1166 O should have said a 'religious establishment' rather than a blanket religion. Religious establishments have real property that can be confiscated.
Why not judge a religion by it's fundamentalists? If you tell me yours is a religion of peace, that tells me your extremists and fundamentalists should be extremely peaceful. And if they're not maybe there's something fundamentally wrong with your religion.
@@Chris-ki6uiseriously!! Look at Hitchens track record in both gulf wars and the Afghan conflict. He couldn't be more wrong if he tried. Hitchens was articulate but that's all.
@@roddycavin4600 No, I'm not looking at that. Why should I judge what he says in this video by looking at everything else that's said and done. Completely irrelevant.
The best believers are the ones who cherry pick and follow the good verses from their books. They are good not because of their bibles, but despite them
I think you're mistaking the bible for the quran, you don't need to cherry pick the Bible to live morally, in fact, whatever you dispense with inevitably reduces your moral foundations
Taxing a pew is one way to discourage Corprate Public Worship of the Eternal Spirit! Less well to do persons have less funds to offer the Church than Lord's and Ladies who sometimes ignore we Priests...
@@waldorfmcvitty4854 Dawkins just admitted in an interview (LBC) the opposite and now is saying it’s negative, so well done you lot the west is doing so much better now, misery everywhere. Your last predominant anti-theist has admitted he was wrong and is now trying to say he was a cultural Christian and that Christianity is decent.
I knew a woman from Egypt, and she was Christian. Once I asked her what happened in Egypt, if a teen raised Christian doubted it and didn't believe. Immediately, she said they'd be killed. I looked shocked and she made fun of me. She said "oh you Americans and your freedom." I'm serious. In the mid-1990s in Wichita Ks.
I guess is a cultural thing and not a religious thing. I know literally thousands of people that were born in Catholic families and they are not catholic anymore. Basically 95% of the population born in Spain in the 70's, 80's or 90's are in this situation. Meanwhile you need all over Europe organizations to protect ex-muslims from their own relatives.
The Qur'an says: "whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve." It is the Bible that says if someone preaches you another religion then you must kill them even if they are your own son or daughter.
Incredibly disingenuous Although I agree with him on Islam However his arguments against Christianity were absurd Basically it was some Christians did bad things therefore Christianity bad
The Qur'an says: "whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve." It is the Bible that says if someone preaches you another religion then you must kill them even if they are your own son or daughter.
@@dwightdowson9259 No I won’t. I’m 84 years old. I’ve already been dead once. It’s no different from never being born. As for religion, its history is essentially a mountain of corpses. Don’t let religion stand in the way of a good life.
You have a big victim mindset so your worldview revolves around it. Thus you are blind to the love of Jesus. You'd think an 84 year old with so much time and experience would find the truth of Jesus yet he remains ignorant and drags all the youth that haven't found the truth down with him into hell. I made your victim mindset pissed didn't I when you read the word hell. Sorry man but the truth hurts. The problem you have with Jesus isn't an evidence problem (because there's enough evidence like his historical significance) but it's a problem in your heart (sounds corny but it's true) back in the time that Jesus lived there were people that didn't believe he was the messiah so they said " If you are truly the son of God perform a miracle right now " but Jesus said that even if he performed a miracle they still wouldn't believe in him. You have the same problem as those non believers did. It's not too late to change your heart, old man
@@joeboyle5864Secularist history is nothing but a mountain of corpses. How many times have Atheists used the inquisition as a critique of Christianity? Every chance they get. How many people were killed during the inquisition over the course of 300 years? Around 300,000. How many people were killed during the secularist French Revolution in 10 years? About 2.5 million. Cry me a river with your, "Religion is a mountain of corpses." BS and go take a history class.
I'm not a muslim but his logic is good if he actually follows it. The example is bad tho. Like I'm sure you can find another one but technically speaking a "Hadith" is a "quotation" (literally, in Arabic) and it is not "the word of God" or whatever. It is just something someone (authority as he said), once said. He is presenting it as it is the word of God. About that, in Quran (words of God in muslim believes) it says "there is nothing mandatory in religion" (la ekra7 fi-al-din). But the logic is great. He's got a point.
First of all, he passed away long ago, but you should know it better since you praise him so much, okey dokey. Let’s move on - You really think that without religion people will magically eradicate violence, hate and bullshit? If you truly believe this statement, you are more believer than I am,lol
@@3xw3xw : You are correct about him passing away. But I am correct about religious violence, hate and bullsh*t. Religion and its dogma were invented by man for the control of man. Just look at how religion is used in some of the third-world countries. It is used to excuse state murder, oppress minority groups, oppress women, and dictate your entire life.
@@3xw3xw First of all, AdHominem is not an argumentt. Let's move on - The most peacefuI pIaces in the worId are mostly secuIar. So, in answer to your condescending question: YES.
@@Amanita._.Verosa._. ad hominem? I just corrected him, cause the guy is dead, and the comment says that he is one of the cleverest people alive. Both parts of this statement are lies. Which peaceful counties you are talking about? The ones that lost their cultural identity and struggling with saving their own population? Eu countries? China? USSR?Which ones?
When he said that the death sentence for apostasy was "applied to a couple of people" I assumed that he was going to finish that sentence with "who now have to live as...dead".
@@Nahrandi4 well it’s kinda hard not to see religion as part of a discrepancy, because religion has been a a main part of human existence since the beginning, only recently can we see other things like atheism appearing I mean now even politics is starting to become a religion in itself, but I think people too often accuse religion of wrong when it’s just conflating it with human nature and tribalism which is pretty much a core part of human existence, religion has always been a key part of human existence since the beginning and its silly to associate religion with evils rather than associate human nature with evils.
@@ece2178 Yes, it is much better. It's much better without ANY reIigion in it. Christianityy would be as vioIent now as it was in its heyday if it could. The worId is better without it.
It would be a happy outcome, if the consequences were to play out in this way. But we have to consider whether religion is a SYMPTOM of irrational thinking. If it is, then eliminating religion would not necessarily eliminate the reason why people favor irrational thinking. In other words, religion may well exploit a cognitive weakness in humans. But we ultimately have to heal or somehow evolve past that weakness, otherwise something else may well come along to exploit it.
So people do evil because of religion? Have you seen your surrounding? They commit crime for religion? Do you have any ideo how evil human can be? They commit evil for their greed love of wealth power, don’t they? Why does atheist think you know human very well? In my religion teaches cheating is sin. For atheist cheating can be way to earn wealth. Cheating is beneficial for someone. So may people do. You people believe survival of the fittest for me it is most dangerous ideology. Oh explain me, why should i do good thing? What is good for me, asking for suggedtion
@@starfishsystems Thats very true, but I think that without religion, a lot of the real problems we have with our advancement being held back would go away. There would still be people believing utterly stupid things, but without religion, there would, logically thinking, be more people with fully developed critical thinking skills because there wouldnt be institutions with a vested interest in keeping those skills as low as possible.
The difference is, although not exactly a great improvement, the Bible has a New Testament, an attempt at righting some wrongs... Islam on the other hand claims to be perfect and cannot be changed, which is far more dangerous.
@@jamesdawson2393 Yes, we hear that the new testament is better. The god who demanded blood sacrifices and genocide turns over a new leaf of peace and love, and to symbolize this, his great beautiful act of love is a human sacrifice.
The Qur'an says: "whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve." It is the Bible that says if someone preaches you another religion then you must kill them even if they are your own son or daughter.
I really miss Christopher Hitchens well thought out views on religion. His words have brought into sharp focus what I’ve been thinking for a long time.
Was or is stoning someone for picking up sticks, a child for talking back to their parents, adultery or divorce a good or moral thing or not? Do you you believe the whole Bible is a good book and inspired by the God who created everything or not?
You don't know what you're talking about and demonstrating your complete ignorance of the Bible The first Laws were the Ten Commandments but the Israelites broke the Covenant immediately then more and more laws were being introduced for the Israelites transgressions They kept breaking the Covenant with God so stricter and stricter and more and more laws were applied to them
@@danielanthony8373 The real question you should be asking is why is or was God such an asshole and why do you believe in or respect that asshole even if there was any reason to think he actually exists!
@@danielanthony8373 You are ignorant of the world in general if you think there is anything in the Bible worth knowing or that it explains or describes anything in the world or that any of the commandments are a good moral guide or that the Bible is anything but horrifying! You should be ashamed to believe in that book and anything but proud!
The Qur'an says: "whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve." It is the Bible that says if someone preaches you another religion then you must kill them even if they are your own son or daughter.
Never mind the doctrines, the best way to judge a religion is by the number of people it has tortured and killed over the millennia. Ironically, the Ancient Greeks and Romans, who had gods who were lusty and violent, seem to have been an ideologically tolerant lot.
@@Merriwether-w8k I wish it was. I wonder what Jesus would have said about the soul destroying, money grubbing Puritanism still current in America, for instance.
When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so that its professors are obliged to call for help of the civil power, ‘tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one. - Benjamin Franklin, in a letter to Richard Price. October 9, 1790
The idea of being a stockholm syndromed hostage gives me the shivers. Particularly because you never get to see your hijacker. You are told his name, though: Godallah. Small consolation, eh?
@@gregjacksun Well the mind of any religious person is held hostage by that religion. It's an unfortunate truth, and we can only attempt to free as many hostages as possible, by non violent means.
The Qur'an says: "whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve." It is the Bible that says if someone preaches you another religion then you must kill them even if they are your own son or daughter.
@@johnnyegerhardt1109Well the very reason christians don't burn others at stakes today is secular humanism and them trying to bend the text to match it eventho it's contradictory
I've noticed on the atheist experience when a Muslim calls and gets owned, they just hang up and run away rather than acknowledge or discuss the point being made. Not all of them, but a large percentage anyway.
What are the mental gymnastics? It is a command from God and there is nothing wrong with it. If you defect to another country you get the death punishment. Is that unreasonable? Not to mention in Islam there is a period where it is reasoned with you before and if other countries would take you you can be sent there not to mention that this would only apply if you come out with it in public so it is your choice. Not to mention that in Christianity and Judaism it is the same punishment of death and it is in the Bible in Deutronomy and Chronicles. So do they fail as religions? Or are you just an islamophobe?
@@ZiadJimmy There's everything wrong with it, its barbaric. And yes its unreasonable, obviously. And yes, Christianity and Judaism also fail as religions (at least as moral religions) for that reason.
@@colinjava8447 why is it unreasonable? You gave no reasons other than your opinion which doesn't matter anyway. And bold of you to judge morality of others when you have no objective morality, only your subjective moral opinion.
First of all Hadith is not the word of God It is the saying of the Holy Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. Secondly the punishment for apostasy is not death. In the Holy Quran it is clearly written in chapter 2 verse 256 that “there is no compulsion in the matter of religion” So if a person changes his religion and leave Islam he can do so according to the Holy Quran as religion is a matter of your heart. Another thing which I would like to clear for you is that if any Hadith contradicts with Holy Quran then we give precedence to the words of Allah i.e the Holy Quran and discard or leave such saying which is against it. 1 thing which I liked which he said is to go to the fundamentals and you can’t present any single example of a person who has been killed just because he left Islam in the life of the Holy prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. And 1 fundamental point I already mentioned related to this issue which is chapter 2 verse 256. Thanks
"Secondly the punishment for apostasy is not death. " As far as I know, it is punishable by death in Iran and Afghanistan and 8 other countries. That wasn't just in the past. It is so RIGHT NOW.
@@9y2bgy as he said we are talking about fundamentals. And if you read fundamental teachings of Islam apostasy punishment is not death or even there’s no punishment for apostasy. Learn religion from the person who brings it. If you want to learn Islam read the life of Muhammad peace be upon him. ( like Jesus is the one who brings Christianity so if you want to learn Christianity look in his life, you can’t say because pope has blessed same sex marriage now so that’s part of Christianity teaching. No it’s not because Jesus never said that and it’s against Christian fundamental teachings) Don’t say Iran and Afghanistan have such laws. First you need to present those and if they have then they are not representing Islam in any way by contradicting its fundamental teachings. I hope it’s clear now.
@@hamzaahmed5866 There are 10 countries where apostasy is punishable by death. Didn't say that they kill those who reject islam on a regular basis. The law is there to be enacted if the government so chooses. To say that those countries are contradicting the fundamental teachings of your religion is meaningless when these people not only exist in their hundreds of millions but have the LEGAL means to carry out what you consider wrong islamic act. If islamic countries all over the world allow muslims to exeercise choice regarding their faith with NO adverse punishment, you will see an immediate reduction in number of those who proclaim their utter muslim faith.
there are thousands of examples of people being put to death because their faith didn't conform with those in power. I understand your desire to defend your faith, but please don't delude yourself by arguing that Islam is tolerant.
Islam the fastest growing religion in the world, Mashallah. It is not Muslims that invade and colonise and start proxy wars in other countries in the world it is America and Britain France and all the other Christian colonialists, educate yourself on history and theology……free palestine
The Qur'an says: "whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve." It is the Bible that says if someone preaches you another religion then you must kill them even if they are your own son or daughter.
The Qur'an says: "whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve." It is the Bible that says if someone preaches you another religion then you must kill them even if they are your own son or daughter.
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As I recall, (if I’m not mistaken) it refers to people fighting against Muslims along with active enemies of Islam. The fact that they used to be Muslim should not spare them. But also, (in the same collection of verses I believe) it says that if your enemy is inclined to peace, then you must also be inclined to peace. Before this, it is mentioned that fleeing enemies must not be pursued, but allowed to flee.
@@TrumpCantRead Me going to a building with others that aren't like me to talk about how to love others is a cult? You don't know the first thing about my church. How did you arrive at it being a cult?
that's not true, although Islam shares many aspects of Christianity, they only believe Jesus to be another prophet not the son of God. If either is true, the other one is not.
@@keillorchristophPerhaps there are many things Lee Strobel didn't tell you, Paulogia has a nice playlist about his claims. In what year was Jesus born?
@@keillorchristoph You got some alternative science and archeaology there, mate? Maybe just look up why the first institutes of Geology, made up from christian sholars are no longer part of any christian church.
As a Christian on this subject I actually agree with this atheist about the Muslims even though he puts all his faith in a missing link monkey theory and nothing exploded and created the universe.
@@MultidimensionalSentinel well when there is a missing link monkey yes it does and science can't prove there is no God so yes atheist live by a lot of faith.
@@TrinitarianChristianWarrior777 Wow, you obviously do not understand even basic biology, or basic logic apparently. Did nobody teach you evolution? Or critical thinking? You may want to do a little reading before making any more ridiculous claims my friend. Faith is not a virtue, it is both a moral and intellectual failure. Thankfully actual knowledge, science, and logic does not rely on faith.
@TrinitarianChristianWarrior777 Science can't disprove Religious claims because they are unfalsifiable. They are not in the realm of science. We accept that the big bang is the most likely explanation for The current state of the universe. Because that's where the evidence leads us. That's the opposite of faith
Impeccable arguments! And it is quite interesting how muted the general criticism has been in the West. I believe it has been muted because of the profound effects of the capitalist ethic. Within the capitalist ethic you don’t see or concern your self much with moral questions, because the questions of financial gains and losses are paramount.
Islam on TV with a moon symbol is fake, it is Judaism and Freemasonry. The Qur'an says: "whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve." It is the Bible that says if someone preaches you another religion then you must kill them even if they are your own son or daughter.
@@natalierichter2637 The Christian text is the New Testament text, where the New Covenant is defined and explained. As I mentioned earlier, the Christian text says the Law (Old Testament) is fulfilled through one word; LOVE. See what I did there :)
@@natalierichter2637 We aren't Jews nor do we live in the Kingdom of Judah/Israel so the laws and messages of the OT aside from the moral law do not apply to us. OT only helps to provide context to NT and provide moral law. However, the mosaic and civil law presented in OT does not apply to today.
He's most likely in hell His soul left his body and he probably realized that there actually is a spiritual world Then he realized that he's fkd Or he probably got dragged to hell once his soul left his body Go watch the thousands of testimonies of people who die and go to hell and also heaven
I wonder if religions take responsibility for their extremists ..it never fails to amaze me how they just de cry their behaviour so we know it wasnt them ...also ,i wonder why islamic countries are intolerant of refugees and refugees are intolerant of the countries that rescued them
The Qur'an says: "whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve." It is the Bible that says if someone preaches you another religion then you must kill them even if they are your own son or daughter.
Hitch was incomparably intelligent, articulate, and I have to wonder if he didn’t have a photographic memory. Facts always at his fingertips. And witty. They don’t make ‘em like that anymore.
The Qur'an says: "whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve." It is the Bible that says if someone preaches you another religion then you must kill them even if they are your own son or daughter.
"The hadith which" Are literally things regular non holy people made up centuries after the fact based on what they thought. Similarly to how paul's letters are letters from a guy who never even met jesus about what he thinks is right.
"Similarly to how paul's letters are letters from a guy who never even met jesus about what he thinks is right." 2. Timotheus 3, 16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
The Qur'an says: "whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve." It is the Bible that says if someone preaches you another religion then you must kill them even if they are your own son or daughter.
There are indeed a few verses in Qur'an state that anyone can choose his faith without punishment. However, the problem with this verses they are might be out of context!! Or superseded ! That is why people goes to the Hadith as it is much clearer
Truth is sufficient unto itself. As in nature birds don't try to fly they just do, trees don't try to grow they just grow, and the Truth whatever that may be, simply is. If it has to impose itself on others or proselytize, it isn't Truth.
“The only problem with Islam fundamentalists are the fundamentals of Islam” - Sam Harris
Sam harris is a joke
@@samigh95Islamists are an even bigger joke and demonstrably, Harris is way smarter than you.
Curious as to why you think he is a joke
@@samigh95 Dr. Sam Harris is brilliant So I’m immediately suspect of your knowledge and training. He has a doctorate what is your academic preparation?
@@samigh95 Said the joker
Even in west I cannot openly admit I have left islam so that not provoke muslims.
Fanatic religious people. killing people in the name of God
Atheists are THE most persecuted and unrepresented minority IN “the west”
It's 2024 for crying out loud... We have the internet and still this nonsense persists.
I get that. I have a friend from Sudan, and even though I'm an atheist myself, it took him three years before he confessed he's an atheist.
He didn't wait with admitting he was an atheist because he was afraid of my judgement, but because he was afraid I might tell his immigrant friends.
I never assumed he was muslim btw, I just didn't assume he was irreligious either. He wouldn't openly express either when we discussed the matter, he'd be vague and avoid the question.
@@TrumpCantRead citation needed
God I miss this man!!!
Oh the irony 😂
Witness the stupidity of humanity
@@spikeybaby1735 Yes. On purpose. Get it?
@@spikeybaby1735 lol Thanks for noticing 🤓
You'll probably meet again....
Wear Asbestos!
“If there is a God, He will have to beg my forgiveness.” - Written on wall of Mauthausen-Gusen concentration camp by unknown prisoner.
God will know whoever wrote it when that person goes before Him
@@bucklr11and will hopefully beg him or her for forgiveness
Whatever there is, everything that ever lived, died.
@joeboyle5864
That is not a statement of science; it’s a statement of faith.
the Jews rejected their Messiah , so God rejected them , God is Sovereign , this man will not even get to see the Lord let alone have an argument with Him
the arrogance of men know no limit neither does the power of God , let that sink in
My beliefs don’t require membership, control, propagation or worship. They are free to change and evolve as I change and learn new things throughout my life.
You seem to be your own little tyrant
@@dwightdowson9259 What a weird interpretation.
So, in your feeble mind- YOU are your own God.
Got it
@@mcoo465 I’m sorry, but no, you don’t “got it” and you’re an idiot. I guess with that kind of interpretation, I shouldn’t be surprised that you’re incapable of understanding the simple concept of having spiritual beliefs that aren’t prepackaged with contradictions and handed to you for cherry picking, but rather malleable beliefs that reflect reality instead of contradicting it and are open to change as you learn new things.
@@mcoo465 😂 If you think you “got it”, you’re the one with the feeble mind. Your complete and utter lack of understanding is astounding.
He was a brave man
A stupid Atheist too!
When he is judged will he keep a stiff upper lip...
@@dwightdowson9259 “ judged “ 🤣🤣🤣Man they’ve got you under control no doubt 🤣🤣
@spikeybaby1735 on the contrary you are deluded by your own self centered motivations
@spikeybaby1735 my studies and research reveal a few very sorrowful facts about so called pseudo intellectuals like Mr.Hitchens....no foundation since he was a rudder with no Ship
If religions are peaceful wouldn’t the followers be “extremely” peaceful?🧐
If a nation was founded on equal rights, wouldn't the citizens be 'extremely' progressive?
@@Youboremenow Not if the majority of people in that nation are uneducated, ignorant and so backward as to believe without evidence in a magical man in the sky that grants wishes and they read a book that approves of slavery complete with instructions on how to treat one’s slave as well as declaring women are inferior to men.
So the answer is YES but only if the people of that nation are educated, logical and rational 😂
You didnt read what it says. You dont murder. But it gives you the authority to defend your life and nation.
@@63grandsport11 I don’t read fiction 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Youboremenow Ironically the people of color are progressive it’s the white 🗑️ Christian racists that prevent progress!!!
Thanks, Christopher.
This guy has boldly spoken the truth about Islam ☪️. Brave man.
How so? Just by one sentence he fails democracy.
Sadly the far left has embraced islam as a religion of victims. They will bend over backwards for it while putting down other religions.
Nothing brave about him
@@BillyMurray-hw2vz always brave to be critical of Islam. Most criticize Christianity, because there is no risk.
He has (maybe) spoken the truth about some guy who see's himself as something special and said shit about Islam which isn't true. But he has not spoken anything about real Islam.
Don't fall for the same shit ppl fall since 100 years, making the west hate muslims and arabs. It's the same agenda since 100 years.
Absolutely 💯 💯 💯 hitch ❤
You judge a religion BY THE FRUIT IT PRODUCES!!!
Exactly; Matthew 7:15-20, Jesus warns his followers of false prophets: "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles?
@@lisadowsett6836 Funny that Islam and many other religions also warns about other "false prophets". It's almost like there's a pattern here. Weird.
Every but me is a false prophet, just ignore all the evil i do.
nah, "religion" is a believe in a deity.
no such thing as gods.
@@lisadowsett6836 nah.
Iggy Pop - 1978 : "I wanna be your dog"
Yes he is missed!
I would argue that fundamentalists - those who follow their religion more accurately than most people - are the most accurate people to judge a religion by.
Yes, lots of people don't take their religion seriously and are very good people. But thats beside the point of analysing the religion itself.
I would agree with you on that, the moderates are not what you judge it by its the fundamentalists. I am a christian and to me being a fundamentalist is following what Jesus said and the bible by feeding the poor, loving our enemies, fighting abortion and sex slavery, slavery, adoption, and every ritchous thing we can, and being willing to die and not deny he who saved us.
Jesus loves you too. Peace
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Actually very true, I respect Hitchins for being critical of Islam, most atheists go for the easy option and attack Christianity. The first could get you killed, the second is highly likely not to get you killed.
No, we should absolutely judge a religion by its fundamentalists because they (claim) to be following its fundamental ideas. As such, they are basically the representatives of the actual beliefs of the religion. Its also worth noting that I dont think I've ever heard a moderate member of the religion stand up and say 'no, those people dont represent me'.
Really, I hear it from Imans on the news every time a extremist nutcase does an act of violence.
I love the way Hitchens exposed the inherent evil in religious doctrine!❤
Which religous doctrine specifically do you believe is inhetently evil?
@@gregsanich5183the abrahamic religions stand out. Im sure there are more.
@@ngcastronerd4791 Is that today ? Or 2000 years ago?
@@gregjacksun from their beginings and likely to their very end.
@ngcastronerd4791 there are several major world religions that fall under that umbrella. Each with their own distinct collection of various doctrines that establish what it is exactly that each believes.
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So, is it just all of their doctrines are inherently evil, or is there an actual example of something specific that could support that assertion?
....you know, evidence and all that,...
Brilliant speaker and very rarely had an equal in debate. He could also take it as well as give. Opponent would quite often tread carefully because if you started to get personal you were in for quite a lashing , verbally of course.
“What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof."
And an excellent sense off humor.
Miss him
One should have the legal right to sue a religion for for damages for the harm it causes.
Where is the class action suit against the Catholic Church by all of the children all over the world? In a just world the Catholic Church would have been bankrupted by now and Vatican City sold to real estate developers.
A religious organization, absolutely. Suing a religion itself wouldn’t make any sense. It would be like trying to sue the concept of hypocrisy or narcissism.
@@tljsucks1166 O should have said a 'religious establishment' rather than a blanket religion. Religious establishments have real property that can be confiscated.
Why not judge a religion by it's fundamentalists?
If you tell me yours is a religion of peace, that tells me your extremists and fundamentalists should be extremely peaceful. And if they're not maybe there's something fundamentally wrong with your religion.
This is why Christianity will always be on top. Everyone calls extremist Christians saints
@@markspectre1234
Not everyone.
Only Christians do that.
@@drewdrake9130 even atheists use that word
I suppose Jainism is the best example. It's core principles are non violence and peace. It's extremists are pretty much paralyzed by its pacifism.
something wrong with ALL religions!
This man speaks truth to you.
Thanks, I was sceptical until I read your comment. Your intellectual contributions helped a lot.
@@Chris-ki6uiseriously!! Look at Hitchens track record in both gulf wars and the Afghan conflict. He couldn't be more wrong if he tried. Hitchens was articulate but that's all.
@@roddycavin4600 No, I'm not looking at that. Why should I judge what he says in this video by looking at everything else that's said and done. Completely irrelevant.
A Religion of Peace must have The Most Wonderful Amazing people!
I miss ❤ Hitch, but am thankful for his books and the videos still available 👏🏻
The best believers are the ones who cherry pick and follow the good verses from their books. They are good not because of their bibles, but despite them
That’s not cherry picking its ignoring the voice in your head that’s telling you to stop being foolish and grow up
@@mrjagriff Cherry picking is not cherry picking?
I think you're mistaking the bible for the quran, you don't need to cherry pick the Bible to live morally, in fact, whatever you dispense with inevitably reduces your moral foundations
@@nhc63absolutely false. You think stoning women for infidelity makes you moral? Gross
Have you read all of it
Judge it by what its done! My people do.
This is why 50% of the Churches when I was born are now closed and the rest have less than 10% attendance.
Taxing a pew is one way to discourage Corprate Public Worship of the Eternal Spirit! Less well to do persons have less funds to offer the Church than Lord's and Ladies who sometimes ignore we Priests...
and now people like Richard Dawkins are now saying its bad that this is happening, less religion in the world and its going down the pan
@@ece2178 No they’re not, dawkins, like all me of reason think humans losing their religion is a good thing.
No idea what you are talking about.
@@waldorfmcvitty4854 Dawkins just admitted in an interview (LBC) the opposite and now is saying it’s negative, so well done you lot the west is doing so much better now, misery everywhere. Your last predominant anti-theist has admitted he was wrong and is now trying to say he was a cultural Christian and that Christianity is decent.
@@ece2178 LOL Absolute garbage, he does not say that humans not being religious is a bad thing. 😅😂😂😂😂😂
Man, I SO miss Hitch. There's just nobody like him these days, with the immense gravitas that he commanded.
I knew a woman from Egypt, and she was Christian. Once I asked her what happened in Egypt, if a teen raised Christian doubted it and didn't believe. Immediately, she said they'd be killed. I looked shocked and she made fun of me. She said "oh you Americans and your freedom." I'm serious. In the mid-1990s in Wichita Ks.
That's true. Pfft.
I guess is a cultural thing and not a religious thing. I know literally thousands of people that were born in Catholic families and they are not catholic anymore. Basically 95% of the population born in Spain in the 70's, 80's or 90's are in this situation.
Meanwhile you need all over Europe organizations to protect ex-muslims from their own relatives.
The Qur'an says: "whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve."
It is the Bible that says if someone preaches you another religion then you must kill them even if they are your own son or daughter.
He was incredible.....
Incredibly disingenuous
Although I agree with him on Islam
However his arguments against Christianity were absurd
Basically it was some Christians did bad things therefore Christianity bad
To give the man credit he cut all ways.
As someone who is Christian I do respect his well thought out opinions and ability as a public speaker.
The Qur'an says: "whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve."
It is the Bible that says if someone preaches you another religion then you must kill them even if they are your own son or daughter.
I wish more people had as much common sense and expressed themselves with as much clarity as Christopher Hitchens did.
Love to hear Hitch speak. SO ELOQUENT
We lost the wrong Hitchens.
Disgusting remark.
@ Sue me.
@@freddieellis8449 Cringe
@@polylyth indeed, and yet you still decided to come at me.
The Talmud should be exposed next.
Not a canonical text. A body of opinion, none of it is Jewish law. Unlike the Hadith. Jeez.
Religion is not authority. It’s absurdity.
You might regret saying such
@@dwightdowson9259 No I won’t. I’m 84 years old. I’ve already been dead once. It’s no different from never being born.
As for religion, its history is essentially a mountain of corpses. Don’t let religion stand in the way of a good life.
You have a big victim mindset so your worldview revolves around it. Thus you are blind to the love of Jesus. You'd think an 84 year old with so much time and experience would find the truth of Jesus yet he remains ignorant and drags all the youth that haven't found the truth down with him into hell.
I made your victim mindset pissed didn't I when you read the word hell. Sorry man but the truth hurts.
The problem you have with Jesus isn't an evidence problem (because there's enough evidence like his historical significance) but it's a problem in your heart (sounds corny but it's true) back in the time that Jesus lived there were people that didn't believe he was the messiah so they said " If you are truly the son of God perform a miracle right now " but Jesus said that even if he performed a miracle they still wouldn't believe in him. You have the same problem as those non believers did. It's not too late to change your heart, old man
yes because the west is doing so much better without Christianity, right?
@@joeboyle5864Secularist history is nothing but a mountain of corpses. How many times have Atheists used the inquisition as a critique of Christianity? Every chance they get. How many people were killed during the inquisition over the course of 300 years? Around 300,000.
How many people were killed during the secularist French Revolution in 10 years? About 2.5 million. Cry me a river with your, "Religion is a mountain of corpses." BS and go take a history class.
The gullibility of simple minds can be deadly.
That is valid for all religions
Christopher Hitchens was amazing!
This is too funny when they try and deny it lol. Deathly funny you could say
I'm not a muslim but his logic is good if he actually follows it. The example is bad tho. Like I'm sure you can find another one but technically speaking a "Hadith" is a "quotation" (literally, in Arabic) and it is not "the word of God" or whatever. It is just something someone (authority as he said), once said. He is presenting it as it is the word of God. About that, in Quran (words of God in muslim believes) it says "there is nothing mandatory in religion" (la ekra7 fi-al-din). But the logic is great. He's got a point.
Salman Rushdie agrees.
In the off chance you are unaware, that is one of the friends he refers to here in this speech.
One of the cleverest people alive. Always able to show religion for what it is.... Violent, hate filled, bullsh*t.
First of all, he passed away long ago, but you should know it better since you praise him so much, okey dokey.
Let’s move on -
You really think that without religion people will magically eradicate violence, hate and bullshit? If you truly believe this statement, you are more believer than I am,lol
@@3xw3xw : You are correct about him passing away. But I am correct about religious violence, hate and bullsh*t.
Religion and its dogma were invented by man for the control of man. Just look at how religion is used in some of the third-world countries. It is used to excuse state murder, oppress minority groups, oppress women, and dictate your entire life.
Yes I know he is dead !
@@3xw3xw
First of all, AdHominem is not an argumentt.
Let's move on -
The most peacefuI pIaces in the worId are mostly secuIar. So, in answer to your condescending question: YES.
@@Amanita._.Verosa._. ad hominem? I just corrected him, cause the guy is dead, and the comment says that he is one of the cleverest people alive. Both parts of this statement are lies.
Which peaceful counties you are talking about? The ones that lost their cultural identity and struggling with saving their own population? Eu countries? China? USSR?Which ones?
When he said that the death sentence for apostasy was "applied to a couple of people" I assumed that he was going to finish that sentence with "who now have to live as...dead".
"they(muslims)claim a special right to be offended"
-Christopher Hitchens
Thanks so much Hitch.
A light in the darkness.
Yea too bad he wasnt around to tell people like Sir Isaac Newton how evil and naive he was.
yeah because the world is much better now with less Christianity in it right?
@@Nahrandi4 well it’s kinda hard not to see religion as part of a discrepancy, because religion has been a a main part of human existence since the beginning, only recently can we see other things like atheism appearing I mean now even politics is starting to become a religion in itself, but I think people too often accuse religion of wrong when it’s just conflating it with human nature and tribalism which is pretty much a core part of human existence, religion has always been a key part of human existence since the beginning and its silly to associate religion with evils rather than associate human nature with evils.
@@Nahrandi4 oh yeah, I did misunderstand, apologies, I agree I mean Islam in the Middle East is a prime example of that
@@ece2178 Yes, it is much better. It's much better without ANY reIigion in it.
Christianityy would be as vioIent now as it was in its heyday if it could. The worId is better without it.
#itmeanswhatitsays
Without religion most of the problem in world will end
@amardesai7286
"Without religion most [...] in world will end"
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Are you an atheist?
Ne specific, without islam
It would be a happy outcome, if the consequences were to play out in this way.
But we have to consider whether religion is a SYMPTOM of irrational thinking. If it is, then eliminating religion would not necessarily eliminate the reason why people favor irrational thinking.
In other words, religion may well exploit a cognitive weakness in humans. But we ultimately have to heal or somehow evolve past that weakness, otherwise something else may well come along to exploit it.
So people do evil because of religion? Have you seen your surrounding? They commit crime for religion? Do you have any ideo how evil human can be? They commit evil for their greed love of wealth power, don’t they? Why does atheist think you know human very well? In my religion teaches cheating is sin. For atheist cheating can be way to earn wealth. Cheating is beneficial for someone. So may people do. You people believe survival of the fittest for me it is most dangerous ideology. Oh explain me, why should i do good thing? What is good for me, asking for suggedtion
@@starfishsystems Thats very true, but I think that without religion, a lot of the real problems we have with our advancement being held back would go away. There would still be people believing utterly stupid things, but without religion, there would, logically thinking, be more people with fully developed critical thinking skills because there wouldnt be institutions with a vested interest in keeping those skills as low as possible.
Fundamental islam is the snake in the grass.
Non fundamental islam is the grass hiding the snake.
I just absolutely love this guy. There is such an extreme clarity to what he says
Bravo.
And no; the Bible is no better.
How so?
@@Xanthippus_i7x because the Bible allows for slavery, and it pardons anyone who beats their slaves as long as they don’t die within two days
The difference is, although not exactly a great improvement, the Bible has a New Testament, an attempt at righting some wrongs... Islam on the other hand claims to be perfect and cannot be changed, which is far more dangerous.
@@jamesdawson2393
Yes, we hear that the new testament is better.
The god who demanded blood sacrifices and genocide turns over a new leaf of peace and love, and to symbolize this, his great beautiful act of love is a human sacrifice.
@@JFrazer4303 I didn’t say it was better. Regardless of its lack of success the point is they were willing to make amendments, Islam never will.
Freedom is hard to understand specialy from religion in the name of. A GoD
The Qur'an says: "whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve."
It is the Bible that says if someone preaches you another religion then you must kill them even if they are your own son or daughter.
I really miss Christopher Hitchens well thought out views on religion. His words have brought into sharp focus what I’ve been thinking for a long time.
Was or is stoning someone for picking up sticks, a child for talking back to their parents, adultery or divorce a good or moral thing or not? Do you you believe the whole Bible is a good book and inspired by the God who created everything or not?
You don't know what you're talking about and demonstrating your complete ignorance of the Bible
The first Laws were the Ten Commandments but the Israelites broke the Covenant immediately then more and more laws were being introduced for the Israelites transgressions
They kept breaking the Covenant with God so stricter and stricter and more and more laws were applied to them
@@danielanthony8373 The real question you should be asking is why is or was God such an asshole and why do you believe in or respect that asshole even if there was any reason to think he actually exists!
@@danielanthony8373 You are ignorant of the world in general if you think there is anything in the Bible worth knowing or that it explains or describes anything in the world or that any of the commandments are a good moral guide or that the Bible is anything but horrifying! You should be ashamed to believe in that book and anything but proud!
@@danielanthony8373 LOL
The Qur'an says: "whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve."
It is the Bible that says if someone preaches you another religion then you must kill them even if they are your own son or daughter.
Never mind the doctrines, the best way to judge a religion is by the number of people it has tortured and killed over the millennia. Ironically, the Ancient Greeks and Romans, who had gods who were lusty and violent, seem to have been an ideologically tolerant lot.
the doctrine is the whole point - omg
@@Merriwether-w8k I wish it was. I wonder what Jesus would have said about the soul destroying, money grubbing Puritanism still current in America, for instance.
When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so that its professors are obliged to call for help of the civil power, ‘tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one.
- Benjamin Franklin, in a letter to Richard Price. October 9, 1790
@@adropofgoldensun27 Tell me something good that is done in the name of religion that can't be done without that religion.
@@Chris-hx3om
Perhaps you misunderstood me or Benjamin Franklin because I have nothing good to say about religion.
The idea of being a stockholm syndromed hostage gives me the shivers. Particularly because you never get to see your hijacker. You are told his name, though: Godallah. Small consolation, eh?
"Hostage"?
Are you kidding?
@@gregjacksun
Well the mind of any religious person is held hostage by that religion.
It's an unfortunate truth, and we can only attempt to free as many hostages as possible, by non violent means.
The Qur'an says: "whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve."
It is the Bible that says if someone preaches you another religion then you must kill them even if they are your own son or daughter.
One of the causes of constant problems in the current world Mr. Hitchens! Islam !
This was said in the days before his argument could be simply dismissed by the epithet "Islamophobia"
I judge religion by its believers.
By their scriptures
It's how the believers interpret those scriptures.
And look where we are ? Christian’s are doing a bang up job. Instead of falling on my knees I’ll just raise my ass in the air.
The Bible is fiction though. Theres ZERO scientific proof of it.
@@johnnyegerhardt1109Well the very reason christians don't burn others at stakes today is secular humanism and them trying to bend the text to match it eventho it's contradictory
Insane lack of muslims in the comments hahaha they run from what they cant hide with mental gymnastics
😂 don't lose your head, mate
I've noticed on the atheist experience when a Muslim calls and gets owned, they just hang up and run away rather than acknowledge or discuss the point being made. Not all of them, but a large percentage anyway.
What are the mental gymnastics? It is a command from God and there is nothing wrong with it. If you defect to another country you get the death punishment. Is that unreasonable? Not to mention in Islam there is a period where it is reasoned with you before and if other countries would take you you can be sent there not to mention that this would only apply if you come out with it in public so it is your choice. Not to mention that in Christianity and Judaism it is the same punishment of death and it is in the Bible in Deutronomy and Chronicles. So do they fail as religions? Or are you just an islamophobe?
@@ZiadJimmy There's everything wrong with it, its barbaric.
And yes its unreasonable, obviously.
And yes, Christianity and Judaism also fail as religions (at least as moral religions) for that reason.
@@colinjava8447 why is it unreasonable? You gave no reasons other than your opinion which doesn't matter anyway. And bold of you to judge morality of others when you have no objective morality, only your subjective moral opinion.
First of all Hadith is not the word of God
It is the saying of the Holy Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.
Secondly the punishment for apostasy is not death.
In the Holy Quran it is clearly written in chapter 2 verse 256 that “there is no compulsion in the matter of religion”
So if a person changes his religion and leave Islam he can do so according to the Holy Quran as religion is a matter of your heart.
Another thing which I would like to clear for you is that if any Hadith contradicts with Holy Quran then we give precedence to the words of Allah i.e the Holy Quran and discard or leave such saying which is against it.
1 thing which I liked which he said is to go to the fundamentals and you can’t present any single example of a person who has been killed just because he left Islam in the life of the Holy prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.
And 1 fundamental point I already mentioned related to this issue which is chapter 2 verse 256. Thanks
"Secondly the punishment for apostasy is not death. "
As far as I know, it is punishable by death in Iran and Afghanistan and 8 other countries. That wasn't just in the past. It is so RIGHT NOW.
@@9y2bgy as he said we are talking about fundamentals. And if you read fundamental teachings of Islam apostasy punishment is not death or even there’s no punishment for apostasy.
Learn religion from the person who brings it. If you want to learn Islam read the life of Muhammad peace be upon him. ( like Jesus is the one who brings Christianity so if you want to learn Christianity look in his life, you can’t say because pope has blessed same sex marriage now so that’s part of Christianity teaching. No it’s not because Jesus never said that and it’s against Christian fundamental teachings)
Don’t say Iran and Afghanistan have such laws. First you need to present those and if they have then they are not representing Islam in any way by contradicting its fundamental teachings.
I hope it’s clear now.
@@hamzaahmed5866 There are 10 countries where apostasy is punishable by death. Didn't say that they kill those who reject islam on a regular basis. The law is there to be enacted if the government so chooses.
To say that those countries are contradicting the fundamental teachings of your religion is meaningless when these people not only exist in their hundreds of millions but have the LEGAL means to carry out what you consider wrong islamic act.
If islamic countries all over the world allow muslims to exeercise choice regarding their faith with NO adverse punishment, you will see an immediate reduction in number of those who proclaim their utter muslim faith.
there are thousands of examples of people being put to death because their faith didn't conform with those in power.
I understand your desire to defend your faith, but please don't delude yourself by arguing that Islam is tolerant.
Islam the fastest growing religion in the world, Mashallah. It is not Muslims that invade and colonise and start proxy wars in other countries in the world it is America and Britain France and all the other Christian colonialists, educate yourself on history and theology……free palestine
I love Christopher Hitchens.He's brilliant.Speaks the truth
Hitch was great at making clear and concise statements in defense of his beliefs.
What beliefs? Absence of a belief is not a belief in itself.
The Qur'an says: "whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve."
It is the Bible that says if someone preaches you another religion then you must kill them even if they are your own son or daughter.
Jesus is Lord
The Qur'an says: "whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve."
It is the Bible that says if someone preaches you another religion then you must kill them even if they are your own son or daughter.
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THAT KEEPS PEOPLE FROM QUITTING
As I recall, (if I’m not mistaken) it refers to people fighting against Muslims along with active enemies of Islam. The fact that they used to be Muslim should not spare them. But also, (in the same collection of verses I believe) it says that if your enemy is inclined to peace, then you must also be inclined to peace. Before this, it is mentioned that fleeing enemies must not be pursued, but allowed to flee.
Weird how that doesn't seem to apply to the women and children of cannanites
Sources that say you're wrong and full of shit • الفتاوى الكبرى - ابن تيمية | Al-Fatawa Al-Kubra (Ibn Taymiyyah) | Volume: 3 | Page: 514
• مجموع الفتاوى - ابن تيمية | Majmu' Al-Fatawa (Ibn Taymiyyah) | Volume: 28 | Page: 534
• فضائح الباطنية - الغزالي | Fada'ih Al-Batiniyyah (Al-Ghazali) | Page: 156
• الأم - الشافعي | Al-Umm (Al-Shafi'i) | Volume: 1 | Page: 264
• المبدع - ابن مفلح | Al-Mubdi' (Ibn Muflih) | Volume: 9 | Page: 175
• التمهيد - مالك | Al-Tamhid (Imam Malik) | Volume: 5 | Page: 311
• كشف القناع - ابن قدامة | Kashf Al-Qina' (Ibn Qudamah) | Volume: 6 | Page: 136
• الشرح الصغير - | Al-Sharh Al-Saghir | Volume: 6 | Page: 144
• المغني المحتاج - الشربيني | Mughni Al-Muhtaj (Al-Sharbini) | Volume: 4 | Page: 133
• جامع العلوم والحكم - ابن رجب الحنبلي | Jami' Al-Ulum wa'l-Hikam (Ibn Rajab Al-Hanbali) | Volume: 1 | Page: 327
• البحر المحيط في أصول الفقه - الشوكاني | Al-Bahr Al-Muhit fi Usul Al-Fiqh (Al-Shawkani)
• الهداية - المارجيناني | Al-Hidayah (Al-Marghinani)
• فتح القدير - ابن همام | Fath Al-Qadir (Ibn Humam)
• تبين الحقائق - الزيلعي | Tabyin Al-Haqa'iq (Al-Zayla'i)
• المهذب - الشيرازي | Al-Muhadhdhab (Al-Shirazi) .
Believe what you want. Let this prophet guide you if you wish.
you have every right to, but dont be threatening non-believers because there is no justification for it
@@starkillerx2020 when did @OlafChang9359 threaten anyone?
We reject “believe”, AND “prophets”.
Thats. the. point.
@@gregjacksun every believer “threatens” by the very tenets of their cult
@@TrumpCantRead Me going to a building with others that aren't like me to talk about how to love others is a cult? You don't know the first thing about my church. How did you arrive at it being a cult?
His Religion was "IHATEGOD".
This is neither a religion or a word…
Well done.
@waldorfmcvitty4854 what's up your ass?
You cannot really hate a fictional character
If the Quran is true, the Bible is true, if the Bible is true the Quran is not
Bit moot as neither have a shred of evidence. As such, you can take it as a given they are both false.
@@tye64 science and archeology say different, you get a chance or if you have an open mind read or listen to case for a creator buy Lee Strobel
that's not true, although Islam shares many aspects of Christianity, they only believe Jesus to be another prophet not the son of God. If either is true, the other one is not.
@@keillorchristophPerhaps there are many things Lee Strobel didn't tell you, Paulogia has a nice playlist about his claims.
In what year was Jesus born?
@@keillorchristoph You got some alternative science and archeaology there, mate?
Maybe just look up why the first institutes of Geology, made up from christian sholars are no longer part of any christian church.
I judge religion on its history. The evidence is quite conclusive.
If the extremists are the problem, then that is whom religion MUST be judged by.
As a Christian on this subject I actually agree with this atheist about the Muslims even though he puts all his faith in a missing link monkey theory and nothing exploded and created the universe.
LOL, science does not rely on "faith"
@@MultidimensionalSentinel well when there is a missing link monkey yes it does and science can't prove there is no God so yes atheist live by a lot of faith.
@@TrinitarianChristianWarrior777 Wow, you obviously do not understand even basic biology, or basic logic apparently. Did nobody teach you evolution? Or critical thinking? You may want to do a little reading before making any more ridiculous claims my friend.
Faith is not a virtue, it is both a moral and intellectual failure. Thankfully actual knowledge, science, and logic does not rely on faith.
"warrior" lol
@TrinitarianChristianWarrior777 Science can't disprove Religious claims because they are unfalsifiable. They are not in the realm of science.
We accept that the big bang is the most likely explanation for The current state of the universe. Because that's where the evidence leads us. That's the opposite of faith
Impeccable arguments! And it is quite interesting how muted the general criticism has been in the West. I believe it has been muted because of the profound effects of the capitalist ethic. Within the capitalist ethic you don’t see or concern your self much with moral questions, because the questions of financial gains and losses are paramount.
I miss this man! Since he died I've had a Hitch sized hole in my heart.❤️
All religions do say that, not only Islam.
Islam on TV with a moon symbol is fake, it is Judaism and Freemasonry.
The Qur'an says: "whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve."
It is the Bible that says if someone preaches you another religion then you must kill them even if they are your own son or daughter.
Like a fucking breath of fresh air
The New Testament text says to love your enemies. Who would be against that?
Read OT...... yikes
@@natalierichter2637 The Christian text is the New Testament text, where the New Covenant is defined and explained. As I mentioned earlier, the Christian text says the Law (Old Testament) is fulfilled through one word; LOVE. See what I did there :)
@@natalierichter2637 We aren't Jews nor do we live in the Kingdom of Judah/Israel so the laws and messages of the OT aside from the moral law do not apply to us.
OT only helps to provide context to NT and provide moral law. However, the mosaic and civil law presented in OT does not apply to today.
LOST BUT NOT FORGOTEN
Legend
He's most likely in hell
His soul left his body and he probably realized that there actually is a spiritual world
Then he realized that he's fkd
Or he probably got dragged to hell once his soul left his body
Go watch the thousands of testimonies of people who die and go to hell and also heaven
Beliefs are like cages You cannot see. They keep you from learning, from growing, from being truly free.
Exactly their texts...look at the Torah/Talmud...
I wonder if religions take responsibility for their extremists ..it never fails to amaze me how they just de cry their behaviour so we know it wasnt them ...also ,i wonder why islamic countries are intolerant of refugees and refugees are intolerant of the countries that rescued them
Applies to all religions.
The Qur'an says: "whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve."
It is the Bible that says if someone preaches you another religion then you must kill them even if they are your own son or daughter.
Hitch was incomparably intelligent, articulate, and I have to wonder if he didn’t have a photographic memory. Facts always at his fingertips. And witty. They don’t make ‘em like that anymore.
We need Hitchins now to tell the politicians facts and common sense.
The Qur'an says: "whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve."
It is the Bible that says if someone preaches you another religion then you must kill them even if they are your own son or daughter.
I agree with him
"The hadith which" Are literally things regular non holy people made up centuries after the fact based on what they thought. Similarly to how paul's letters are letters from a guy who never even met jesus about what he thinks is right.
"Similarly to how paul's letters are letters from a guy who never even met jesus about what he thinks is right."
2. Timotheus 3,
16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
@@JESUS_Saves3747 yeah who was that written by?.... lol
who decides who is a "man of god"?
and how is the Q'ran better? LOL
The Qur'an says: "whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve."
It is the Bible that says if someone preaches you another religion then you must kill them even if they are your own son or daughter.
The Jewish religion also says that, why are we not discussing that?
lol, Hitch was a Jew . And scathing of Judaism
So rational compared to blind believers and those too afraid to question
Believe what you want but do not force your beliefs on others.
If morality is part of our intrinsic nature then we are truly created in the image of God.
There are indeed a few verses in Qur'an state that anyone can choose his faith without punishment. However, the problem with this verses they are might be out of context!! Or superseded !
That is why people goes to the Hadith as it is much clearer
A man of sense.
What a great man. 🙏🏽
Thanks 👍
"Let the poor go hungry, and don't heal the sick. Fuck your enemies too." Jesus
As long as he brings this same energy for Christianity and the story of Onan then I'm good with it
Somewhere in this universe, there's a planet with life like us and there's no religion. It's paradise.
Good logical thinking!
Perfect comment ❤❤❤
The Quran is the fundamental document not the hadith
Where are you, Christopher? ❤
...brilliance speaking...👍
Truth is sufficient unto itself. As in nature birds don't try to fly they just do, trees don't try to grow they just grow, and the Truth whatever that may be, simply is. If it has to impose itself on others or proselytize, it isn't Truth.
"Ordinary Morality" is becoming a less and less relative term.