Astrotheology In The Bible
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- Astrotheology In The Bible
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Astrotheology, the study of the relationship between religion and astronomy, has been a topic of debate for centuries. While some argue that the Bible contains references to astrotheological concepts, others argue that these references are purely symbolic or metaphorical. It is important to consider the historical context in which the Bible was written, as well as the various interpretations that have been applied to its text over the years. However, one could also argue that astrotheology is a modern construct and not present in the Bible. The question remains, does the Bible contain references to astrotheology or is it a modern interpretation?
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Derek
Well done on this episode Derek. You had the patience of a saint.
As a student of Astro-theology I really struggled with your guest for this episode. To me it was like watching controlled opposition use fragments of knowledge to destroy your thesis.
Please please re-approach this topic again soon with a more coherent and knowledgeable guest such as David Warner Mathisen.
I could see in your live chat, I was not alone in this view.
Ps- to your admins. Good job.
Pps - Po-Tae-toe.
Keep up the discussion, if you refuse to hear information then you’ll never know your own truth that you are looking for. 😊
This a very nice way for you to say: Sorry for this "connect the dots woo-woo. Thanks Derek
I-yu0.
Like, agree.
As for me, astrothelogy is the only way to make any good sense of scriptures. Some people have trouble accepting this because it's so simple. Early humans entertained themselves and made sense of the world by studying the night sky and the seasons and how they related. It's not a difficult concept to follow. Do not be discouraged because some people can't accept that Christianity is taken from the study of the heavens.
I don't think they did it for entertainment. I think cyclic events happen and the ability to predict these events and ways to memorize and pass this information down was very important. Also an easy way to memorize the sky to be able to navigate by land and sea. Just how we help teach our children their ABC's witha song, etc. And what better way than to put it in the form of a story. Not to mention the influence of the seasons that affect our health and behavior.
LET HIM TEACH!!! God!!! His energy went down and I was so mad as hell. I was so interested. There so many ways someone can interpret the Bible and the wheel…let him speak of his. What are we doing people? I was so disappointed that he was stopped. I can tell he put a lot of work to come on here. Didn’t the host know the works of the guest before bringing him on? Am confused.
Agree! I think Derek needs to be respectful of the guest's perspective and he really wasn't, he was shooting him down every chance he got. Hosts need to host, not try to take over the teaching!! He was very disrespectful of this guest!
Me to this was bad and cold and sad
There are alotta ways you can interpret something like the Bible. Doesn't make them all correct. He's a New Ager, probably like you if I had to guess. Yall cherry pick, man. Try to weasel in pseudoscientific spiritual things in like it's legit.
@@absurdhero144 mane!!! What’s the point?
Absolutely right.
SO ANNOYING to hear the host's DOUBTS while I'm trying to hear the guest's knowledge. Id like to go back and just edit out the host so I can hear this guy drop jewels for us
I grew up reading the bible and going to church, and it was pretty obvious to me that this is all astrology. And it isn't hard to see all the astrotheological connections.
Virgo goes back to Neith of Sais Egypt. She was mother of all gods and her only son is the sun. She is called Asneath in the bible. She is also the Greek
Athena and Latin Minerva and is is all over the bible. Like Jupiter, she is a solar deity.
Athena is compounded of Aith-ain = Fonsignis = fire-fountain = the Sun. She was the daughter of Jupiter = the sky. She sprang forth from his cleft-head, i.e. from "the fore-head of the sky" (Cox's Myth. vol. 1, p. 440.)
Neith of Sais, is definitely the "mother" of Jesus and virtually every character in the bible. She was the wife of Noah and she has only one son aka the sun. The three sons of Noah is the one sun, just like the three sons of Adam, and the three sons of Terah. The one sun is the Christian Trinity, divided into winter, spring, and summer.
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Athena is only one of the names of the Virgin Mary.
It looks like Derek was struggling with the concepts Micah brought to t h e discussion and his frustration got the better of him. Kudos to Micah for not backing down.
Ya got it backwards lol
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No, you have.
The original comment is accurate.
Agree
Micah is spot on. Every science can be found in the book of Genesis. Everything is a fractal-a repeating pattern.
The Creator knew that man would mess with His written words, so He set the Greatest Story Ever Told in the heavens, out of our reach, as a never changing Truth available to all who would search His glorious creation for it 💖
Ma’am really good comment.
Quotable. Elevatory. May it live here in our little comment section for all time.
Spot on. 👍
Beautifully said tammy love it
May I ask what your scientific and academic credentials are?
Bullshit.
A lot of nice synergy between what he is saying and what one finds in Carl Jung - including in his extensive studies on alchemy. This synergy has made both ideas far less esoteric and much more understandable. I like it!
1 Chronicles 22:14, Solomon’s Temple Walls
Gold = Sun, Silver = Moon, Copper = Venus, Iron = Mars, Tin = Jupiter, and Lead = Saturn. Mix Venus and Jupiter and you get bronze.
Now, behold, in my trouble I have prepared for the house of the LORD an hundred thousand talents of gold, and a thousand thousand talents of silver; and of brass and iron without weight; for it is in abundance: timber also and stone have I prepared; and thou mayest add thereto.
This verse tells us that Solomon’s temple was comprised of roughly 7.5 million pounds of gold, and 75 million pounds of silver (depending upon how you measure the weight of a talent). That would be 75,000 cubic feet of gold and 750,000 cubic feet of silver.
The temple itself was 90 x 30 feet. Let’s give it a height of 30 feet as well, resulting in a volume of about 81,000 cubic feet. That means we couldn’t possibly house all of this gold and silver inside the temple; it must have been used to overlay the walls.
Including both the silver and gold, that would make the walls over 100 feet thick with precious metals.
No wonder it took seven years for 153,300 people to build it! (1 Kings 5-6).
The seven years is seven months (disguised six). The 153,300 = 12 and can be read as 3 x 4 (three seasons of four months). The writer is telling us that five of the months are hidden (Hashem). The house of the lord, like the city of god and temple of god....... IS YOUR BODY.
Note the sevens and fives, ignore the zero and you get the seven months of "summer" (begins at spring equinox) and five months of winter which brings us back to the spring equinox. Aries = the head and Pisces = the feet. This is sometimes modified with Taurus thru Aries (Age of the Bull). The Acacia tree is often used to symbolize the winter season. Cedars of Lebanon and you get into silver/lunar myth. The 90 x 30 also = 12 months of the year. The writers mixed the solar and lunar calendars. It took Solomon 13 years to build his palace (the year of 12 solar months). The 13 here is lunar year aka 13 x 28 days. The lunar and solar days were settled as 30 days a month with the battle of Jericho. Jericho is from Jerah/Yerah the moon.
Solomon, the sun, is born on Dec 25 and immediate starts building his palace (the year). He starts building the temple of god (you) in his fourth year (fourth month) and that is April. The first month is January (where we also find the Latin Janus aka Reuben), the second month is February (Simeon/Pisces), and the third month is March (Gad/Gawd). The fourth month is Ephraim (Taurus).
I believe C.G. Jung uncovered the critical "Archetypal Astrology" at the core of our psychological sector of the Universe. This is very important karmic mapping now 100% in play 24/7 in the great dangers of the Nuclear Age in this cycle of "World Age Passage Archetypal Eternal Return" from "Aries" to "Pisces" in the Esoteric Zodiac. I am totally with you on your insight here!
Tfw someone mentions Jung.
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Newgrange is older than Stonehenge and that is based on the winter and summer equinox. It's really old so we know ancient people were obsessed with the night sky.
Fantastic. I have been waiting for this for months. Well done, finally the dam is about to break.
The bible assemblers were all using the works of Ptolemy where the Earth is the unmoving center of the universe. We even find this in the name Noah aka Earth at rest.
What he's bringing out sounds very plausible, since they used a lunar calendar at the time. Now we use the sun to mark the days.
The battle of Jericho (the moon) aligned the solar lunar calendar to the month of 30 days.
Ancient writings/esoteric text is coded in the now and the past but in the future it will be, easily understood as man's consciousness evolves. You two are getting there, you are on the right track.
FYI the Iliad is all about the tropical gap and it's all physics.
Why you argue with your guest? A good interviewer opens his mind... you ruined this for me. I shall look to your guest's website for followup, sayonara...
Also check out William Donahue and Michael Tsarion for this subject.
Brilliant!!! Anyone that understands astrology can appreciate this!!!
When visiting Bethlehem, in Israel, be sure to ask to see the dung gate.
Malchiah (Sun-king = Sun in winter solstice), the son of Rachab (a band of riders = zodiac), built the "dung-gate" (stable of Bethlehem, also the stable of Augeas, which Hercules, in his sixth labor, cleansed by turning a river - Aquarius - through it).
Thank you to Micah for a fascinating introduction to the role astrology and numerology might play in the various Bible texts. I hope you have him on again. I stopped believing in astrology as an older teenager but I was always still interested in how it influenced ancient people and survived in art, mythic tales, volumes of books hidden in the secret Vatican library, and even fortune cookies. I'd like to hear about the sign of the fish (Pisces) and how it was used to denote Christianity and more about the book of Revelation.
The age of Pisces is also known as the age of deception... interesting stuff
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Levi is the bond of stars in Pisces. At one time, the northern fish was a bird. Simeon is the southern fish (Nun).
Taurus (bull of heaven, mother earth and Moon, when the Sun rose in Plaiedes on equinox, now the devil in Christian iconography), then Ram, then Pisces at year 0, now moving into Aquarius
Man has been following the heavens far too long for this not to be an integral part of many of our stories. These stories have only gotten more complex with time and perhaps the core has been obscured. IDK but my belief is this stuff should hold a higher place than it does in trying to understand the stories we have today. I think this idea is how it started but the core has almost been written out as writers refined and became more sophisticated. Please do more down this path.
Thanks! Very interesting! I loved it! Been really wanting to learn something to do with this topic. I look forward to seeing you both together again.
Jacob, father of the 12 constellations/tribes, is Jupiter. This is plain in the story of daughter Dinah who is the Latin Diana/Greek Artemis.
The Cancer constellation is where we find the ass (star) of Issachar. Issachar is Asaker or Zagreus (Bacchus), and the name is punned upon by assimilating it to the Hebrew sekari = hire." (Dunlap, Spirit Hist, of Man, p. 267.) Son Zebulun (dwelling of sun) is the constellation Capricorn where we find the Argo navis aka the standard of Zebulun. Judah's sign is Leo and is opposite that of Reuben aka Aquarius. Leah (winter) was very fruitful.
This is great! I’ve been doing a lot of studies of ancient calendars including the Zaddok calendar found in the Dead Sea Scrolls. There are a lot of astrological/zodiac/“horoscopes” found with these documents. So I do think that they used these symbols in the sky. ’m going to try out your interpretation to see if these signs agree with the times of the year that they were supposed to occur in the Bible.
The basic calendar is provided in Genesis one. The six days = spring equinox - autumn equinox and the six nights = autumn equinox - spring equinox. These are are called summer and winter.
You will find the writers place Egypt, Babylon, and Ethiopia in the southern hemisphere (below equator). Thus, they cannot be talking about geographical locations. They are celestial.
Collected works Nr. 9 part 2 Aion will offer enormous insights into the idea of astonomy in early Christianity, gnosticism, alchemy etc. etc.
The book: "The Devil's Pulpit" by Rev Robert Taylor (1784-1844) gets into a lot of this. Wikipedia has an article about this reverand and some links
Yes! Santos Bonacci/Mr Astrotheology and Michael Tsarion are Giants in this subject as well.
I am hard at work on a Big Budget Commercial Film Script Project involving "Astrotheology" and a Modern Jungian Archetypal analysis of the Epic of Gilgamesh and the human belief systems in play in the period from the human psychological trauma of the Younger Dryas and Gobekli Tepe to the Agrarian rise of Sumer and Akkad.
I am big on the 1969 scholarly book "Hamlet's Mill: An Essay Investigating the Origins of Human Knowledge and Its Transmission Through Myth" by Giorgio de Santillana from MIT and Hertha von Dechend from Johann Wolfgang Goethe-Universität. I also have all of David Warner Mathisen's wonderful books.
From this interview, I just bought the first three books of his series and will give him some serious thought. I already believe from my own long years of study that the great systems of ancient knowledge were all indeed encoded in deep structure architecture and sacred literature.
As always, thank you Derek!
How is the project coming? I'm interested. 😊
Uh, please tell me what this film is called, because that sounds awesome.
@@izzycurer1260 Thanks for your interest! But the Title is private at this point ...
The bible gives many clues. Nahor aka snorter is the horse in Sagittarius. Sagittarius - Pisces = winter season. Abram, elevated Ram = Aries = spring season aka Aries - Cancer. Haran (Heat) = Leo = summer season of Leo - Scorpio. Sagittarius, Aries, and Leo are all Jupiter/Fire signs. The three sons of Geb/Adam/Noah/Job are all suns. They are the same sun of three stages.
It shows how important to not only literally see your message, but to give it undertone or subliminal messaging as a layered way of communicating
Interviewer was over imposing his thoughts and opinions. Listen more or enough to hear what and how they say whatever
Lots more info: Bill Donahue and Santos Bonacci both on TH-cam
Holy Science
The astrotheological underpinning of the biblical narratives is what actually gives the Bible credibility as being 'inspired'. As its done in heaven so it shall be done on Earth.
Noah was the just one (sun in Libra) he (like Osiris) is sealed in his ship (womb/tomb) in the next sign of Scorpio. The ark/arc of Noah/Osiris consists of five signs aka Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, and Pisces. This is the five months that can harm man (Rev 9). These same five signs are the five sons of Hashem (hidden sun) and they are the five wounds of Jesus (the winter sun of five months). These five signs are the 150 days the "flood" aka winter prevails. The three levels of Noahs ark are winter/Shem, spring/Japheth, and summer/Ham. The ark comes aground on Mt. Ararat, which is the spring equinox. Guess which sign leaves the ark/arc first.
Summer is always the one who laughs and Winter is always the one who weeps (rainy season),
Wish you guys would show biblical stories in the constellations so it can be seen . Just talking about it is preaching . Showing it is teaching
Derek is the G.O.A.T…….so good to have him on our side. 🤙🏽🙌🏽 dude knows about scholarship. Love yah Micah good to hear your point of view …. 1st time hearing 🤙🏽
The exposure of the modern state of Israel as a complete hoax can be disturbing to the deluded.
I get frustrated with the need to see everything from our western culture. The scientific method is great and crystal clear but not the highest way. There are always higher ways then what is being used by the masses. Everything is always evolving into something higher. Poetry, truth, symbolism, art, culture and beauty are all God's gifts to help us understand the mystery and puzzle of how it all fits together. I follow the gift of the spirit to be able to discern and remember who I am, where I came from, and where I am going. So much of these mysteries have been taken out of our history and culture by tyrants whose desire to enslave, control and herd people like cattle has created Hell on earth. It's all about progress, learning, evolving, transforming from a caterpillar to a butterfly through free will, mercy, and grace. The law of opposition in all things proves this to be true. I was taught that all astrology was evil and silly. Now I realize that it's both. There is the dark occult that takes astrology and uses it to manipulate and gain more power. There is also holy, light filled astrology that helps us know ourselves and how our bodies mirror and reflect the universe. As it says in Egyptian Hermetics in the law of correspondence, as above so below. As within so without. This knowledge is sacred and holy. It put Jacobs ladder, the twelve tribes, Christ and his disciples in a new layer and perspective that brings more light into my soul. I appreciate this being out there for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear this message. This is not for everyone. There is the milk and the meat of the gospel. The simple and complex. Not everyone wants to see the larger perspective and deeper meanings in all of this. I hunger and crave these mysteries in my life. It helps me have a reverence for everything in my environment. If we could just stop being so afraid of the esoteric. Many of our ancestors where tortured and killed for having this knowledge. Who knew that through being born we are all having these adventures and experiencing different archetypes dependent on our houses, birth, and moon signs. It helps me realize that every time the scriptures speak of the lion. I can be grateful that my Leo sign gives me courage and a desire to create. To see the attributes and gifts of Christ in every sign. Now that's really beautiful.
There's not really evidence that any of it is real.
Derek should organize a trip to the biblical Bethlehem aka the constellation Virgo. You will find this "virgin" holding a palm frond in her right hand (represents summer and six days in Gen 1). She holds a bundle of cereal in her left hand (represents winter and six nights in Gen 1). The wheat symbols the harvest (often represented by the scales of the tax collector). This is the harvest that is to be shared during the six nights (actually months) during the period the earth rests from its labors. The best guide to Bethlehem is the star Spica.
He actually went to Israel a few months back...Oh, Bethlehem means House of Bread...(Astrological house of Virgo)
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I was referring to the biblical Israel (the stars). Isaiah 9.14-15, describes Israel (summer) as the four constellations of Leo, Virgo, Libra, and Scorpio. The head is the noble/royal lion and the tail is the liar (scorpion). Scorpio is called Satan, father of lies.
Essentially Micah main point that religious ideas are based on astrology is 100% correct, in fact all religions foundational ideas are based on astrology. However, “astrology” is probably not correct. The appropriate term should be night-sky images mixed with terrestrial ideas. The Zodiac, like the Tarot Cards, is a code. The ideas that evolved into various cultural expressions including religion evolved about 100000 years ago in Africa. Our ancient ancestors in Africa first recorded the night-sky images on cave and rock art. These images are not static but interact and change as the night progress, over seasons and over much longer periods like precession thus giving rise to various “movies”. It is these changes and interactions correlated with terrestrial forms and events which were converted into stories. The Zodiac signs as now presented by western scholars are completely wrong. In my free online book, The Zodiac in Our Genes: Is God Dead, I present the night-sky images and phenomena which gave rise to the archetypal images and ideas (signs, symbols, divine numbers and core ideas). In my second unpublished book - Akashic Record and Holy Grail, I go deeper to show relationship among the images, divine numbers, some religious ideas, various traditions, rituals, found in various cultures including their religions. To see how images are used to create various stories, just watch various Tarot card artistic presentations and various Tarot readers’ story creation.
Dec. 25; 'in one of its' three-days prior, Winter-solstice passed, the Sun has arisen.
The rising begins on December 25 and this is when the Exodus begins. The escape from Egypt/Babylon aka winter season is celebrated as the Pass Over. You can observe every biblical exodus by simply looking out your window and watching the sun rise in the east. It is easy to note the northward movement of the savior sun. On approximately March 25, the construction of Solomon's temple begins. Every year. This temple have never been anything more than your body.
I'm halfway through this, and this is my first introduction to this show. I must say, I am very put off by the host's behaviour towards the guest...It's making it very difficult to watch. I wasn't intending to see a debate where the host interjects the guest constantly.
Derek: Please stick to academic scholars who publish in peer reviewed journals. The different between us (I am an academic) and creative thinkers like your guest here is that we don't get to make stuff up. Every idea we publish is criticized by experts before it even gets to the public eye. This saves you a lot of time. A non-academic creative thinker may have many insightful ideas, but you have know way of knowing whether any of them hold water without researching them yourself for anachronisms, mis-translations, incorrect application of cultural context, etc.
He should do an interview with the Frenchman Charles F. Dupuis and discuss his writings about the origin of all religious worship.
Derrick, You don't need to protect us. We can listen to your guest and do our own research. You're coming across a little condescending, imo.😊
Cesare Borgia is 100% the inspiration for the Jesus picture. He's also the inspiration for The Prince by Machiavelli.
This is the type of video I have been looking for . When i started studying astrology I felt it was linked tot he Bible in a lot of ways and this man just confirmed it for me
Read the seminal 1969 Book "Hamlet's Mill" and the 1946 Book "Towards Aquarius" by the Great Vera W. Reid written in London during the blitz in WWII. It was republished in 1969 and 1971 after Woodstock. The Astro-Theology of the Bible was all through the Streets of the 1960's after the wake up call of the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962. This lore is all completely over the heads of people who currently call themselves "Jews", "Christians", and "Muslims". Start listening to Seals and Crofts Albums and investigate the Baha'i Faith regarding the meaning of the years 1844, 1850, 1863, and 1892/1893. Good luck to everyone here on Tisha B'Av of 2042. HINT: read Annie Jacobsen's new book "Nuclear War: A Scenario" published on March 26th, 2024.
I find Micah's work to be quite interesting. Sure, it's causing cognitive dissonance, but that's what is needed, to force everyone to focus and think deeper in an untraditional way. I think he's onto something because I can see the patterns he's presented throughout the Bible.
Thanks brother follow my Channel for more and reach out
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In his tenth and last plague, the Lord resorted to extreme measures to compass his purpose, and succeeded. Having spoiled the Egyptians (Ex. 12.36), i.e., having gathered up the fragments winter had left (the bones of Joseph), which Moses took with him (Ex. 13.19), Moses went out from Pharaoh in "great anger" (Ex. 11.8). And no wonder! Pharaoh (the Sun) had got up such a fuss among the four winds, and put them in such dreadful conflict, that it was, for a time, doubtful on which side victory would finally perch - winter or summer. Moses, however, nothing daunted, manfully pushed forward to the side of summer, and put forth his - " Thus saith the Lord,'' about midnight, I will go out from Egypt, " and all the first-born in the land of Egypt shall die " (Ex. 11.5).
Proclamation having thus been made, precautions were next taken to prevent indiscriminate slaughter, for the Lord was not, like Pius IX, infallible. To avoid mistakes, it was ordered that " the two side posts, "and" the upper door posts" (Ex. 12.7) be "struck with the blood of a lamb " (Aries), slain for that purpose, and that none shall go out at the door of his house until the morning " (Ex. 12.22).
Thus, all having been arranged, the Lord proceeded with his bloody purpose ; and this was its modus operandi - the constellation Aries (God) rose in conjunction with the Sun (Lord) at the spring equinox, while Libra, a southern constellation, and the first-born of Egypt, because it is the first of the southern constellations to rise, set in the west. Thus it was that the first-born of Egypt was slain; and this slaying of Egypt's first-born takes place every spring soon after the equinox, and everybody is glad of it.
Morning = spring equinox and Evening = autumn equinox. Midnight = winter solstice.
Derek darling, keep studying the zodiac bible connection.
Derek, I came to hear Micah Dank. Should he ever come back on your podcast, please ask him good questions and then let him Speak. Reverend Robert Taylor wrote "The Devil's Pulpit" back in (1784-1844) and was thrown in jail for sharing these similar truths. Modern day scholars like Michael Tsarion, and Santos Bonacci/Mr Astrotheology, also speak volumes on this topic.
Fascinating stuff. Could be a fun hobby for many people. But the problem comes when you start using stuff like this for a way to live your life. Like the gemetria crackpots and conspiracists.
Somebody made a comment that this material is below your channel. I applaud you for stepping out of your comfort zone. Again, I see this as a fun pastime. Kind of like sudoku! Lighten up people!
Thanks Derek and Micah
It's not a problem if it provides heuristic value to you. Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
This guy speaks fax religion is a business, and when you enter the zodiac sign and the apostles and connect, the two, the church starts to crumble real fast do your research people
Would love for Micah to have more of an opportunity to explain his ideas & thought process. Great start to a few more episodes at least though, right?
Have heard Santos Bonacci talk about Astrotheology in Revelation. He went through and followed the progression in Revelation with the progression of the stars.
Every time Micah got going, he had a foot put out there and tripped him.
I agree . he did a piss poor job explaining. Why he didn’t include bible versus to support his arguement??? Only he can answer.
Derek is clueless what this fool is trying to say.? Micah needs help how to represent astrotheology.
He failed to add that scorpio also can be replaced with 7 other animals. Scorpio is the only zodiac sign with multiple animals.
He failed to explain that hebrew and greek have a letter number pairing so that every word has a value, every letter has a value, thus mathematics is involved behind every sentence of the Bible.
@@cousinbuzzin9060Santos is odd, but brilliant and did an amazing job of breaking it ALL down, to include other levels of the holy science
@@ashzoleIt’s not Santos level teaching, but I think he gave a great introductory explanation of astrotheology for those who are new to it.
@@h3pak we can agree that he tried to say something
"Not to get into conspiracies..."
(goes directly into conspiracies)
There might be something to the whole astrotheology thing.
But so far all I've seen here is unbridled apophenia and claims about as compelling as moon cheese.
Say what you want about academia. But it's a great filter for this kind of nonsense.
The whole point of saying that statement is to let everyone know you're about to get into the thing you don't mean or want to get into
Well, what's your rebuttal as to how astrotheological the holy bible is not astrotheological? The book is literally called sun book. Academia can be wrong or flat out lie as well, so appealing to authority is the best to way to be manipulated easily
@@_VISION. And my point is that people should keep their verbal diarrhea to themselves.
@@_VISION. Yep, more baseless conspiracism.
"Academia is lying to you!"
Said breathlessly while hoping that nobody recognizes the flawed premise.
@@rainbowkrampus I didn't say academia is lying to you, I said they have the capability to lie to you, I bet you believe in Santa still too 😂
What’s happening is that it might just be the stories of the planets but it’s also making it look like there’s another story in a story.
I think Micah was correct in believing the Zodiac was giver to us.
Video starts at 9:00
How big was the night sky for the ancients?
It was EVERYTHING!
We have electricity and screens and can barely see stars until we get at least an hour out of town.
Anyone who has looked into the Kabbalistic Tree of Life will know that the Old Testament is a shrouded astrological text. The New Testament is a twice-shrouded astrological text.
Cancer = Issachar and his ass and he is Bacchus.
Capricorn = Zebulun and his ship and he is borrowed from the Egyptian who sails the celestial seas in his Barque (Crescent moon). This ship-sun is Zion and Mt Zion is the winter solstice in Capricorn.
Aries the Ram is also called Gad/Gawd aka Jupiter/Zeus and this is the sign of Eldad (Ram Lover). Opposite Aries we find Libra and the biblical Benjamin. His mother, Rachel, is Virgo. Medad aka water lover is also Libra. The rider of the white horse/stone is Jupiter/Fire in Aries. The rider of the black horse/stone is Juno/Air. Her horse is only black when the sun is in the southern hemisphere. Aries thru Libra is the sacred seven of many myths.
If you dont believe in this then dont invite people outside of your beliefs on your show
Derek, you may want to look at THE THUNDERBOLTS PROJECT concerning astrotheology
Such a sad, weird thing that advanced people believe this one anthology of very typical mythological images from millennia ago mean anything real.
That is the bible for you.
If you grow up in it, you'll understand.
I can understand why someone would hold the view of pure academia that Micah does. The answer can be found in many of your shows, for example in your recent show debating with Dr Kip and Dr Josh they allowed an interpretation of slavery to come from a false historical narrative - namely the Exodus when we all know they do not subscribe to the idea that the exodus from Egypt happened, they listen and don't take issue with the basis for some of the arguments the proponents of the 'new thinking' on slavery by the evolved Caananites.
Academics of Biblical related subjects 'stay in their lane', they aren't astronomers and they aren't paleontologists, they also aren't allowed in peer reviewed studies to cite 'common sense and understanding of human history as a whole' as a basis for an argument. This has effects on what they will discuss on recorded media that people may use to study a subject. Why do so many countries have different traditions attached the same Rome-centric governed Catholicism? Why do the Dutch have Swarte Pete and the slaves giving out presents instead of Santa Claus and Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer? We have examples of cultural adaptation for just about every belief narrative ever told.
Where I think Micah falls down on his explanation of an astrological basis for the biblical texts is that he doesn't do what the academics do do, he doesn't put it into context, he doesn't talk about the world and their understanding of it at the time. Or rather he only does it superficially. There is a better video explaining astrology in the Christian narrative on TH-cam, it's called - 'The REAL Truth About Religion And Its Origins' on the Listen And Learn Channel.
As you are well aware peoples in those times were overwhelmingly illiterate but they required governing principles in order to function as a society or community, the Egyptians for example cite chaos as the worst condition that humans could be in. Superstitious people, like stone age people, relied on signs they could see and interpret and their view would have been that anyone who could predict 'a sign' ahead of time had 'super-knowledge' and only their narrative deserved to be given prominence in their cultural history. If those signs came from a place they couldn't possibly reach or understand empirically this goes doubly so.
While there are those who are beginning to understand that early hunter gatherers could read 'signs' from what was in the sky this is mere interpretation of signs, it is not 'scientific'. You see this in the sky.. it means this is going to happen down here. These are facts they observe but they have no language (mathematics for example) to tabulate that information they have no writing, and specifically no scientific language, it is passed on orally via fireside talk from elder to child and the best aide de memoir is to fold that knowledge from observation into a narrative where the key points reflect those facts in a manner that is appropriate to their local custom and oral history.
When writing becomes a thing it is only for the elites who have been the repository of history and traditions (which that knowledge is now fully interwoven with), the priest class, the magi who are an off-shoot of the shamens, the wise ones. They have a societal structure that keeps them above the commoner that has existed for thousands of years, they get paid to advise Kings. They get paid to settle disputes, to give reassurance. They get paid to provide some sort of organising principle (angry gods etc) that allows the commoner to believe there is some controlling influence they can appeal to rather than mere random chance and chaos, they have to form a narrative bringing those seemingly unreachable celestial 'gods' down to a place the human can communicate with them in some way that makes sense to them in their world, in short they have to anthropomorphise the celestial. These elites are the ones who have the time to sit down and analyse knowledge, to test it out - they are the scientists of their day. The ones who are expected to have all the answers. Their role is to collect knowledge, study it and form new organising principles to live by.
By the time of the advent of city states the human population was switching from hunter gatherer, interested in seasons and migration patterns, breeding, wild perennial foodstuff cycles etc, to become more agrarian societies. Common sense tells you that in order to make an agrarian society work you absolutely have to understand the seasons, which means you MUST study 'the heavens' and what each sign in the heavens means. your survival and the survival of your culture depends on it. Even more you need exact dates, so calendars, and need to predict ahead of time so that you aren't just following the seasons herds, gathering wild berries as they emerge. you can plan ahead. In order to yoke your oxen for ploughing, you need to think about time when should you have the plow and yoke ready made or in good repair so as not to start the planting season too late. You need to have your irrigation ditches dug before the rainy season arrives.
Still heavily influenced by oral tradition and knowing that 99% of the human population (the herders, the fishermen and grain growers the rulers and priest class depend upon) were illiterate and incapable of reading / writing and understanding complex models of the cosmos so that fixed dates with an explanatory narrative that includes all those key points of information they need to hold - the signs - are formulated. This is what a priest class does, it takes complex knowledge and distills it down to a 'religion' or set of narrative based rules based systems follow. This why is the simplest stories come first and the more complex (Deuteronomic or Hammurabic rules based system for example) emerges later because over generations these basic signs and organising principles go through refinement.
Priests and rulers are not just lawmakers, ALL education was by the priests (until the advent of philosophers) they will adapt simile and metaphor to put across basic organising principles and when they find one that works they adopt that as canon. Intrinsic proof was not the ultimate test as per the scientific principle for example, only whether it worked to achieve the desired aims. Churches face east and are prominent landmarks, there is no biblical basis for this, but the priest class knew the ancients used cardinal alignments in their communal structures and why not north or or south? Because east in the northern hemisphere is where the Sun rises. No theologist will betray it's origins and write that down for you to go and check. Mysticism, secret knowledge is by most academics seen in it's context, it is propaganda. But what is also a form of propaganda that academics can't speak to is what knowledge those theologians deliberately leave out of their texts that they study.
To an illiterate mere knowledge is not enough it is subject degradation over time, they have to see something tangible and what is more evident, at a time when you have the time to look, than what is in the sky particularly at night. To an illiterate farmer the idea of starting a new day at midnight would seem nonsense, their day is governed by the Sun. It is their clock for the day, the month the season and the year, it is the organising principle around which they live their lives. To you me in the modern world attaching spirit meaning to everything is absurd, but the peoples who lived without artificial light worth a damn these spirit influences were all encompassing. Something as simple as deciding when to set sail on a commercial voyage has a whole mythology attached to it with the kernel of knowledge embedded in those myth aligning with full moons, the likelihood of clear skies and stormy seasons, or when to go to find new sources for iron ore were influenced by what the sky was doing, you wouldn't want to be out of town on moonless nights this was the era of lethal wild night predators. Even relatively minor injuries could be fatal.
Why so many interpretations and mythology encapsulating those same basic astrological factors or signs? Because narratives are adapted to fit the culture they are being used by, there are volumes of examples of this in Hebrew texts in comparison to other near eastern cultural texts. No culture will wholesale adapt the mythology of another culture because their origin myths and narratives are what define their culture, but they they change over time and they have cross-cultural influences. They gauge their cultural advancement by how they adapt to new influences and new knowledge, but the basic 'signs in the sky' never change, only their interpretation of them change. As syncretism and schism take their toll societies organise themselves, they demonise some (especially if the 'old knowledge is now out of date and seen as backward, failing) and adopt the new that seems to work and so they re-phrase for their cultural influences.
Why did Christianity arise? Because the evolved Caananites failed miserably to become and enlightened technological society and thrive and their 'knowledge' was absorbed and adapted into more advanced cultures. Make no mistake, paganised Christian beliefs and holidays still govern farmers around the world today, Christianity is their calendar - it works (pre-modern technological advancements) anywhere in the northern hemisphere where there was no pre-existing calendar that worked as well before Christianity arrived. If there was a culture with more advanced calendars the Christians erased them to remove the competition. That's about wealth and control. If you want to discuss this form of falsifiable argument for origins of belief you shouldn't talk to a linguist, philosopher or bible scholar you talk to a paleontologist, or preferably several.
People of that ye were never illiterate. Iook at ancient civilisation carefully. Is it not our standards working here
Derrick, I've watched you for some time taking in hundreds of videos, and I've never seen you push back so much on PhD's. You always say that all is good to speak about here, and your purpose is sharing ideas, but such push back without a deeper dive into the study is poor.
I'm a gnostic, and it doesn't take a scholarly fellowship or theological seminary to become one.
And ALL biblical linguistic study is interpretation. Scholars quibble over translation while theologians quibble over interpretation.
I'm certainly going to continue to learn what Micah has to say. It's very interesting, something I thought you were aiming for, learning, but I'm sensing doctoral indoctrination from you.
It may be difficult for some to accept the idea that the bible has nothing to do with history or geography but has everything to do with the human condition.
I'm inclined to believe you here. The show is called Mythbusters, however, Astrotheogy is (Explaining) Myths. So he really should be right at the HELM on this one...
You expressed my sentiments EXACTLY. Thank you.
No, it was pseudoscientific bullshit mixed with some truths. Micah doesn't know how to do proper unbiased research using the scientific methodology. That's why Derek didn't entertain it cause he caught on early that the substance was diluted terribly and he has a reputation of an academic discourse channel to uphold and rightly so because we need unbiased research and the scientific method on this channel. Not New Age fringe theories with no peer reviewed papers or good supporting evidence/lpgic.
I like the presentation and agree with it broadly.
I'm not sure what Derek's trying to do with constantly disagreeing with his belief. He reminds me of me in my early 20s: he means well and is just discussing information, but he's very unaware of his unacceptance of what is being said to him. Rather than simply hear and agree with the likelihood, he has to counter it and allow himself to be valid, as well.
Mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the SUN of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
1Co 15:41 [There is] one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for [one] star differeth from [another] star IN GLORY.
“Signs and wonders, eh? 19:26
Pity if there is nothing wonderful in signs, and significant in wonders!
There's a clue somewhere; wait a bit; hist--hark! By Jove, I have it!
Look, you Doubloon, your zodiac here is the life of man in one round chapter; and now I'll read it off, straight out of the book.
Come, Almanack!
To begin: there's Aries, or the Ram--lecherous dog, he begets us;
then, Taurus, or the Bull--he bumps us the first thing;
then Gemini, or the Twins--that is, Virtue and Vice; we try to reach Virtue,
when lo! comes Cancer the Crab, and drags us back;
and here, going from Virtue, Leo, a roaring Lion, lies in the path--he gives a few fierce bites and surly dabs with his paw; we escape,
and hail Virgo, the Virgin! that's our first love; we marry and think to be happy for aye, when pop comes Libra, or Scales--happiness weighed and found wanting; and while we are very sad about that, Lord!
how we suddenly jump, as Scorpio, or the Scorpion, stings us in rear; we are curing the wound,
when whang comes the arrows all round; Sagittarius, or the Archer, is amusing himself.
As we pluck out the shafts, stand aside! here's the battering-ram, Capricornus, or the Goat; full tilt, he comes rushing and headlong we are tossed;
when Aquarius, or the the Waterbearer, pours out his whole deluge and drowns us;
and, to wind up, with Pisces, or the Fishes, we sleep.
There's a sermon now, writ in high heaven, and the sun goes through it every year, and yet comes out of it all alive and hearty.”
― Herman Melville, Moby-Dick
I totally understand what you are saying Derek about getting to the core of something. Getting to the origin of what and why and not on what someone else’s interpretation of it is. What is MY true understanding of what this person is saying. That way I can make MY OWN reasoning on what is what.
The host is too rude and incompetent to allow his guest to present his case. Derrik really ruins what could have been a very intriguing episode. I appreciate the guest for his extraordinary patience with the host. Imo, everything that the host said should be edited out except for the introduction. He does get good guests, but so does the gnostic informant. Derrick makes me so grateful for Neil
The abstract (Heaven) called Love (firmament) can be expressed concretely (Earth) as a smile, hug, etc, thereby uniting Heaven and Earth.
I think both speakers need to consider the difference between science and spirituality. If you see a drunk passed out laying in a gutter science tries to explain why he's there. Spirituality tries to prevent him being there or help him recover and find higher ground if he lives another day. Amen?
This man is so on point! 🎯💯
Mythvision I'm at 35:41 and I dont get why your are trying to impose your views. He just said this is 1 of TWELVE ways to see the Bible. Not to put you down but you made this vide longer than need be. Still good content, your opinon just makes it hard to digest what I came for ( astrotheology). I'm not a follower I just found this vid lookin into astrotheology.
Now at 54:45 Micah is a genius for hearing others out cause im assumin the end has a revelation
While there is astrology in the Bible, this guy is reaching. I'm saying that as a practicing occultist. Also, he says he's studied occultism for what, 30 years? Where's he getting certain chakras are more powerful than others?
There are legit occult practices that work but there are also people who self study a hodge podge of stuff that get totally lost in the weeds.
I'll give a real occult technique you can try, remember, occult simply means hidden & it has multiple connotations like it's not easily mentally grasped, how it works is not easily known, it should be kept secret, etc.
Anyway here's the occult technique: sit someplace comfortable, pretend there is a sin in the middle of your chest, concentrate on it & the feeling it gives you. Feel the heat, feel the relaxation it brings & the feeling of peace & warmth. Doing this with full concentration on a daily basis for 10 minutes a day will begin to change your mindset. The symbol is non physical but has a physical & mental effect. This can be done with any symbol, the symbol has no power in itself, it's the mind which has the power. That mental state can effect physical outcomes.
I enjoyed the show i think there more than one way to interpret, like mithra theres so much more than meets the eye symbolic killing a bull ,the red heifer i see the connections
The so called Bethlehem down here, has no connection to the Bethlehem of the bible. Just like Athens Georgia has no connection to the bible. The cities in the "Holy Land" equate to Disneyland and other places of amusement. The two biblical Jerusalems are the summer solstice in Cancer and winter solstice in Capricorn. They are Sarah and Hagar.
Beth-shan = House-of-the-Sun = Summer. The son/sun born on December 25 = shinar (fm shan/sun and naar/boy. Typically, Bashan will be the summer solstice in Leo. Leo is called the head of Israel with Scorpio being the tail. Isaiah 9.
I was trying to figure out who Yahweh coulda been even before the Ugaritic Texts and I found this guy:
Yama (Sanskrit: यम), also known as Kala, and Dharmaraja is the Hindu god of death and justice, responsible for the dispensation of law and punishment of sinners in his abode, Yamapuri (Hell). He is often identified with Dharmadeva, the personification of Dharma, though the two deities have different origins and myths.
The word "Yama" means 'twin' (Yama has a twin sister, Yami), and later came to mean 'binder' (derived from "yam"); the word also means 'moral rule or duty' (i.e. dharma), 'self-control', 'forbearance', and 'cessation'.
Yama is described as the twin of Yami, and the son of the sun god Surya (in earlier traditions Vivasvat) and Sanjna. He judges the souls of the dead and depending on their deeds, he assigns them to the realm of the Pitris (forefathers), Naraka (hell), or be reborn on the earth. Yama is aided by the god Chitragupta, who keeps a record of every deed done by a man, and chief attendants-Chanda and Kalapurusha. Yama is featured in many legends, including those of the Pandavas, Savitri Satyavan, Nachiketa and Markandeya.
Yama is also known by many other names, including Kala ('time'), Pashi (one who carries a noose') and Dharmaraja ('lord of Dharma').
Yami:
Yamuna is a sacred river in Hinduism and the main tributary of the Ganges River. The river is also worshipped as a Hindu goddess called Yamuna. Yamuna is known as "Yami" in early texts, while in later literature, she is called Kalindi.
In Hindu scriptures, she is the daughter of Surya, the sun god, and Sanjna, cloud goddess. She is also the twin sister of Yama, god of death.
She is associated with the deity Krishna as one of his consorts, or Ashtabharya.
Yamuna plays an important role in Krishna's early life as a river. According to Hindu scriptures, bathing in or drinking Yamuna's waters removes sin.
According to O'Flaherty, Yami is considered to be the twin sister of Yama in Vedic beliefs. Yama and Yami are a divine pair of creator deities. While Yama is depicted as the Lord of Death, Yami is said to be the Lady of Life.
Yami also addresses a hymn to Yama in the Rig Veda, describing various drinks offered to dying sacrificers in the after-life. The Brahmana text Taittiriya Samhita says that Yama is Agni (fire) and Yami is the earth.
Yami is thus further described as an association with the earth, relating her to the goddess of graveyards and sorrow, Nirriti, another partner of Yama in the Vedas.
In the Brahmanas; however retains the central role of being Yama's twin sister in the Samhita texts. In the Purushamedha rite in the Shatapatha Brahmana, a mother of twins is sacrificed to Yami, while twins are offered in the Taittiriya Brahmana.
The whole BIBLE is astrotheology, so is the iliad, and so is Plato's Dialogues but in a philosophical way.
Mary is the moon .
Many Gods and myths were based on the planets, stars, comets, etc. Velikovsky explain astrotheology scientifically.
The "Children of Israel" are all stars and none have ever been down here.
@@harveywabbit9541 In the gospels, who was Jesus referring to as the "lost sheep of the House of Israel", and who or what is that House?
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The compound word Israel has no connection to a historical place on earth.
Isaiah 9.14-15, describes Israel (summer) as the four constellations of Leo (the head) through Scorpio (the tail).
Isra = phallus and El = God (Ram). Recommend Science of the Bible or Hebrew Mythology, by Milton Woolley. Symbolically, the Ram is "lost" from the autumn equinox to the spring equinox.
@@harveywabbit9541ישרא doesn't mean phallus
@@dorinamary7863he's referring to any true Israeli that isn't a a member of Judah, Benjamin, or Levi
Micah is an ace at what he teaches and he explains all of it like a child could understand it. It all makes sense. 😊
There are many Dimensions/Layers to the Bible!!! I see it! Thank you.
The study of the mazzaroth is the zodaic in the bible. But in actuality, the bible itself has an astrological tapestry throughout. Further, the study of astrology gets a bad rap because of it's association with witchcraft. The distinct difference between the two classes of observers, is that astrotheologist's observe the stars in correlation with bible prophecy. Whereas withcraft uses it for diving, the casting of spells and manipulation. In the end it is a neutral tool, that can be used for good or evil.
What is the plan of salvation in Astrotheology? Is the issue of sin addressed? Is there an atonement made for the sins of mankind? How can an astrotheology follower know for sure that he or she is on their way to heaven after they die?
There are lots of myths about Dinah (moon goddess) the daughter of Jacob/Jupiter and Leah (night). She is the Latin Diana/Greek Artemis and so many more.
Artemis is the goddess of chastity, virginity, the hunt, the moon, and the natural environment ... Others tried to rape Artemis; none of them lived to tell.
The Moon goddess and the Sun god....oh what a pair they make. Like in Solomon (sun-sun-sun) and Sheba.
The mother and father of Esther (VENUS) is the Moon and Sun.
If this is the bar, it should be raised.
You will find Virgo holding the palm frond/branch in Isaiah 9.13-15. The lion aka Leo is the royal/noble one. The liar aka Scorpio is the tail. The Reed is a water plant and represents Libra, the first southern constellation (night one in Genesis 1). Scorpio is night two. Virgo is day six. She holds the Palm frond/branch in her right hand which represents summer and the six days in Genesis one. She also holds the bundle of grain in her left hand. This represents the harvest that is to be shared during the winter of six months (the six nights in Genesis one). Left hand = winter of six months and the right hand = summer of six months.
Day = sun in northern hemisphere. Night = sun in southern hemisphere.
Good shite. Where do you find all that stuff?
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Start with The Science of the Bible, by Milton Woolley.
Dr. Robert Price knows some of this and late something Murdoch wrote books on this. I am skeptical that explains all the Mediterranean myths. Quite a few archaeologists dismiss this.
It entire bible should be read as myth. The first page of the bible is deep into the zodiac and four elements which were combined into Jupiter as Aether.
There was a roman general who wrote a book stating astrotheology is in the bible.
ezekiel was describing a celestial sphere . the bible is NOT ALL A. astrotgrogly . but astrothrogly is in the bible.
revelations has more clear cut examples of astrothrogly
He said that the book has many sciences. I truly believe the ideas that he was trying to show patterns for "he" didn't get a chance to fully expound upon...
I have some knowledge in this area, and this man is good! I was even blown away when he talked about the Kemetic peace symbol because I know about that. The reason why was blown away, is because I never heard anyone talk about it outside of Knowledgeable aboriginal people. When I say aboriginal people, I mean Black people. I don’t call us Black because that’s not what we are. We are aboriginal people. It is so true that, that is the real peace sign with the two fingers together. That is the peace sign that I use.
The spring sun (holy spirit) impregnates Virgo on every March 25. This happens with the setting of Virgo. Virgo sets headfirst, revealing her "secrets" and Jupiter as the sun cannot resist this opportunity.
Is this where the religious significance of men getting a virgin comes from?
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Virgo goes back to Neith of Sais Egypt. She was mother of all gods and her only son is the sun. She is called Asneath in the bible. She is also the Greek
Athena and Latin Minerva and is is all over the bible. Like Jupiter, she is a solar deity.
Athena is compounded of Aith-ain = Fonsignis = fire-fountain = the Sun. She was the daughter of Jupiter = the sky. She sprang forth from his cleft-head, i.e. from "the fore-head of the sky" (Cox's Myth. vol. 1, p. 440.)
Neith of Sais, is definitely the "mother" of Jesus and virtually every character in the bible. She was the wife of Noah and she has only one son aka the sun. The three sons of Noah is the one sun.
This channel is even lucky to have Micah on here
This conversation has an astrological format, Micah Dank(MD) Derek MythVision(DM), it's like opposition of scorpio and taurus or aries and libra.
This makes the most sense to me. If I try going the debunking Christianity route, it leads me down a rabbit hole with not real answers. Even Academics don’t have THE answers. They just keep going round and round and they say things like “Jesus and the prophets May or May have not been a real person” or “the Bible May or may not have not been taken from older myths” depending on which student you listen to, but they don’t have definite answers. Astrotheology is actually more solid when it comes to logical explanations of the Bible and other myths. @micahdanktruthbombs @MrAstrotheology
Sure, they may or may not have been real, but nobody worth their salt is trying to prove that Jesus was supernatural. Cause that's ridiculous.
I would suggest everybody read the book of the Witness of the Stars if they are interested in this topic and for anyone that is interested in going deep into the zodiac and the Bible and how it is all based on good overcoming the bad in us.
Bring back Aaron Adair. This sounds like it’s all confirmation bias right out of the gate
Good stuff.
Definitely your expert guess is very slow in his thinking and personally he lacks knowledge on other disciplines.
He is on the right path, there is no history in the bible.
I am convinced God wrote the Bible through men without them knowing the deeper applications of the Zodiac. Man understands only so much and it would literally take an eternity to fathom the depths of the scriptures even in light of the zodiac connections. I heard about the zodiac interpretations of the parables of Jesus, but I can't remember where. I would definitely be interested in that subject in detail.
The reason why the ancients wrote in metaphors/with secret meanings/symbols is and was to keep this knowledge only for the initiated and keep it pure. So people could not give their own interpretations. This is exactly what you two are fighting over (or discussing), this is WHY. There was only one way to understand the meaning. They wanted to keep it that way, not have a bunch of regular people discussing the "mysteries" and coming up with their own interpretations. Like you two are doing now. Just look at Christianity and now many churches and sects there are now. These folks did not want that to happen. The Egyptians were able to keep their beliefs and their "artwork" the SAME for thousands of years, because they did not share the "wisdom" or bother to give the uninitiated access, that's why their artwork is not really artwork but symbols of higher learning and meaning. They stayed the same for longer than any other civilization. Pretty amazing.
This was like a one sided fixed cnn interview. How pothetic
Thanks Mr dank you brought it.
And it goes deeper into other constellations such as Orion and Ursa Major Ursa Minor the Big Dipper the Little Dipper all of that is in the Bible that is one way that everybody can understand because no matter what point you're looking for where you're standing you can see the stars like everybody else on the other side of the world it's essentially a universal story
Incredible job and knowledge shared. What an eye opener.
I love knowledge!
The ancient Israelite never existed.
Guest: Bethlehem means the House of Bread. Host: Bethlehem is a physical place (conveniently leaving out that Bethelem was only founded 250 yrs ago)
If you think that the stars are always in the same place, then you might want to look at the flatter theory because I used to think the Earth was flat for a while now.I know it is
Why limiting yourself to only one interpretation? Just indulge yourself in the beauty behind every number and word once their hidden meanings are unveiled.
For example, the 144. The sum of digits is 9, just as for 153. 9 is consciousness.
144 is also the 12th number in the Fibonacci sequence, a perfect square number (12 to the power 2).
Now consider:
4 living creatures
24 elders
144 thousand.
The sequence is 4; 4x6=24; 4x6x6=144.
So what is the next in this sequence?
You get this by multiplying 144 with 322 to give 46368, which is the 24th Fibonacci number.
Why 322?
1) 322 is the product of 7x2x23, with 7 the divine number, and 2x23 is the number of human chromosomes.
2) 322 summed with 233 ( the 13th Fibonacci nr) gives 555
Now the sum of the digits in 46368 is 27. 27 is the number of books of the New Testament. 27 is the number of bones in a human hand. 2+7 is 9!
Back to 153 . Cast your net to the right side to catch 153 fish (John 21). The right hemisphere of your brain, the higher conscience.
In the same chapter we see Jesus with 7 disciples (one and 7: 17). 17 is the 7th prime number. And the triangular number of 17 is 153. And obviously 1+5+3=9.
Why call me master and not do the things I say. The kingdom is in you, practice the single eye, take no thought, cast your net to the right side? Jesus did not come to tell how great he is, but to declare how great you are: every one! The things I do you can do also, and greater things!