This was really good. My trainer refused to teach me about split breaks. Then I had to use a split break my first time out on my own and I had no idea what I was doing. Thanks for this video.
After 22 years on the road I was forced into a situation where I had to learn how to do a split sleeper berth. I’ve always been on paper logs since I’ve owned a glider since before the Elog mandate went into effect but I’m not a good liar as far as running 2 log books and found this video tonight to help me understand how it works and do it correctly. This was the best explanation I’ve found.
We have been trying for so long to understand the 8/2 split... out of ALL of the NUMEROUS videos we have watched, yours is the ONLY one that helped us understand this fully!!! I love the diagram. I am a visual learner and this helped so much!! Thank you!!!
Thanks brother I've been driving 25 years and never could understand the 8-2 split and never used it, that by far is the best explanation I have seen or heard and may try it now Thanks again
Brother, THANK YOU for taking your PERSONAL time out of much needed rest to explain this to us. I understand this 8/2 split a lot better. Thanks to your video I can go over the material to have it sink in my hard head. BE SAFE!
Thank you for jumping right in without the extra useless pointless mumbo jumbo token. In my personal opinion when someone makes an informative video to where someone is learning something they should get straight to the point versus a daily blog you can talk all you want
You’re are welcome. Trust me I have some of those mumbo jumbo videos to 😂😂 it took me some time to learn how to just shut up and talk about what the video is about 😂😂 I’m glad it helped you out 💚💚
I can think of 2 good uses for this. 1. To start your route or 2. To spend less time "sleeping" and more time mid shift on a break instead of 30 minutes. I'll explain incase that sounds useful, but first to shoot down anybody trying to gain drive time... The time between the two 8 hour SB resets will equal the time between your normal 10 hour resets... exept your only using 13.5 hours of your 14 hour clock (8 and 2 but no 30 minute break because it's included in the 2 hour part, as long as you don't go 8 consecutive hours on duty) ...anyways... you can't gain time unless you really work that 30 minutes per shift. Sooo to start your route. If you were up for 6 hours waiting on a load. You can take it, leave, shut down 4 hours later to sleep "8 hour SB reset." Get up and have 10 hours on your 14 clock and 7 on drive time. Drive 5 hours and stop to rest/eat/GO SHOPPING/etc for 2 hours. Those 4 fell off. So now you have 6 hours drive time and 7 left on your 14 clock. Next stop could be your regular 10 hour rest or keep rolling your long breaks and short bed times. I left out pre and post trips... so they will eat your 14 clock.
Your 2 hour break DOES pause your clock as of 2023. It may not have when this video was released, since I know there were some rule changes a few years ago.
Thank you brother! I was so confused about drive time and you just explained everything so simple. Appreciate you and your efforts to help us truckers.
@@wwbbadventures this is very interesting explanation of HOS for drivers. But I am curious, did you make a mistake in your last example at 16:35? Your example at this point you have a 2 hour break, 1 hour on duty not, 3 hours driving and the 8 hour berth for a total of 6 total hours on duty. You then said you have 8 hour drive time and 2 hour of on duty not driving time. Wouldn't that make it a total of 16 hours on your 14 hour clock? 2+1+3+8+2=16? Yes you can get in 8 hours of driving since you only have 3 total before but if you do that wouldn't you need another 2 hour break or would you need another 8 hours berth time to reset the 14 hour clock?
It is very possible I made a mistake. I will have to watch it again. It has been a min since I made this video. Thanks for letting me know either way. It was late when I recorded this and had been a long day. I should probably do an updated one that is a little newer.
Thanks for your explanation. I took pics of my eld last week at the start of each split to try to figure how much time I'd gain after each break, then another pic after each break to track what was gained. After watching this video, the times gained now make sense. God bless and thanks for taking the time to teach others!
Bro, I don’t have good listening skills English, but you make easy understand bc you do slowly and with good pronunciation, also you use subtitles… your explanation is amazing thank you very much.
Good video dude that’s how you explain the split sleeper rule I didn’t realize the time b4 the splits drop off, other TH-cam videos never explain it like that, now I get it.
Great explanation and we could easily get confused. However the guy did miss one thing which is crucial and that’s the little button on the main HOS page The one that says “will pair SB” you must press, tick the box for all of this to work, otherwise it won’t and you will have to revert back to the full 10 hr sleeper berth rule only. I got that little snippet of advice from another instructor on TH-cam. BTW that applies to Omnitracs. Good luck guys.
FYI You don't necessarily have to do an 8-2, 2-8. You can do any combination between 2-3 Off and 7-8 SLEEPER. For ex. 2:20 OFF and 7:40 SLEEPER. As long as it totals 10 hrs.
That was great and it worked good being tired cuz you explained it slow cuz let's face it most people are watching this while they are driving to the shipper or receiver hoping the can work some magic
This is the best explanation but how do you calculate your on duty hours you're going to get back? It is probably the same way but I have a question I don't do a lot of on duty time unless I'm driving I usually go to sleep at bertth do you get any of that time back if you log it as sleeper berth?
I have been in the trucking industry for 11 years and owner operator for the past 3 years and I have never ever understood the principle of a split break...... This is the very 1st explanation I have never come across that I can actually understand..... The hours do jump around like a spider on its Web.... And I do not like that part of it but at least I can follow your examples... Thank you for taking time out to do stuff like this for people like myself
As a flatbed driver I usually spend well over 3 hours every day working and not driving. I feel like it gets more complicated in my situation because my 14 hour clock is what limits me, not my 11. Considering how the 2 hour break doesn't stop my 14 hour clock, i feel like i could be robbing myself of more time. What good is my 6 hours of extra drive time if I only have 2 hours left on my 14? I feel I could seriously mess up my week trying this so I've always been hesitant to try haha
I also drive Stepdeck and I run on a split probably 75% or the time for that same reason. I hate when my 14 hr clock limits me. So I run on a split so I don’t lose my drive time.
Thank you! You answered my question at the end if I can do the 8 hour first. I really appreciate it. But I'm the grammar police lol its Berth not Birth 😂
The best explanation I have heard. Thanks. I always have been intimidated to utilize the split berth and only because every body made it very confusing but you did a phenomenal job. 👍🏽
Thank you. I’m glad I could help. I use the split a lot now days. Especially cause it does not count down your 14 hour clock anymore. So I can set at a shipper or receiver and not stress.
So in order to use this split, I need to click on the "will pair SB" and stay that way ? What about the consignee unloading time takes 5 hours and I mark that 5 hrs as sleeper berth? Will I just take the next 5 hrs to keep it rolling, or I still need at least consecutive 7 hrs sleeper time for it to work? After all, DOT wants to make sure driver to have 7 hrs continued sleeping time?
This is the second time I have watched your videos yes this is the simplest video out on this but I just wanted to refresh myself and remember I'm going to get me a board so that way I can write down my stuff it's just much easier because these elds and get confusing so I figure having the board would help me anyways so thank you for making these videos I hope you're staying safe☺🙏🏼💞
Thanks for the lesson. I like your use of graph. I think that will help me by doing the same. Less confusing that way. Appreciate your effort and time. Stay safe brother
I know this is an old video, but towards the end you were counting your 2hrs. off duty towards your 14hrs. You were legal, but you still had 2 more hrs. if i understand this correctly. Am i right or wrong? I thought i was grasping it until the end. Thanks for the video and any response.
Ok so I started from a fresh 14. Im now at reciever with 2:30 left on 11 and 14. Im now in sleeper birth. What are my options? Does 2 hr in sb pause my 14?
I have a question I came in with a fresh caught and I drove for 5 hours and 6 minutes if I go into the Sleeper Berth for 8 hours how much time does that give me in the morning of DriveTime right now I have 4 hours and 54 minutes of driving time left and 6 hours and 21 minutes on my 14-hour clock
At 13:45 , you said 7 hours of driving is left after 2 hours of off duty , that is fine. But can he still take 2 hours of on-duty after that as you mentioned in the video because: 1 + 4 + 2 + 7 is already 14 which is the max for shift. Kindly reply . thanks a lot for the clear explanation.
@@wwbbadventures Thank you for your reply. Kindly make video on New Sleeper Berth Rule If possible , can you explain the SB rule example on page 31 of this webinar by FMCSA csa.fmcsa.dot.gov/Documents/HOS_QA_Webinar_July2020.pdf
I have always calculated between the breaks then subtract from the full clock, I read the dot book but was confused untill a driver showed me on paper log when I first started driving. Dot book makes it confusing I guess because I couldn't see it
Thank you sir this is so much more clearer and very simple to follow my trucking school could never explain it anymore simpler than this they at least in my case they seem like a complete Egyptian hieroglyphics to me but now thanks to you very much uncover the veil for me if every instructor is able to convey all subject this way in schools it will be a lot less stressful. Big two thumbs up for your video sir 👍 👌 👏 👍
Hi, i think the example on min 13:53 is wrong since u get 7 hrs on duty and driving and u state 9 hrs on dury. Where should be 7 hrs both ... Good video
@@wwbbadventures frankly, I’d be pleasantly surprised. It seems we’re talking about making another 15 minutes a day work in our favor on average, if we’re lucky. It doesn’t seem like the rules are really meant to give more than a very small improvement. I would love to be wrong about this, of course.
@@wwbbadventures one more question whats the purpose of using this when running out of hours or if youre trying to rush to a location it can be a bit confusing
A couple of good examples of when I've used this is when you are on a tight load that delivers in 4 days. When you use the 8-2 split, it removes the need for a 30min break, so you can get to the receiver 1h30m sooner than if you were doing 10hr in the sleeper and taking 30min breaks. The other situation I like to use it is when I know a shipper/receiver will take 2hr-3hr, so I plan to get there in the middle of my drive shift, go off duty during loading/unloading, that way I only have to take 8hrs off that night instead of 10hrs. It's really useful if you run consistent loads, and you know your shippers/receivers/customers. Also if you team drive, you can alternate 8/2 with your codriver and avoid both of your 30min breaks to get across the country pretty quick. I would assume that a lot of high priority or high value loads have teams that alternate this way to avoid unnecessary stopping
Eugenio Rivera I usually use this when a shipper or receiver would take to long and get me close to the 8hr mark. So say a shipper takes 6hrs to off load you, then I would just hang out another 2hrs and activate that 8 hour break. Then start running. Rather than start running after the shipper has held you up for 6hrs and you now only have a few hours left to drive. Hopefully that made some sense.
It should. Your 10 hr break can be a combination of things. It’s just when you’re on an 8/2 or 7/3 splint when the whole time has to be logged sleeper berth. Well the 8hr part at least.
Same thing. You can use any combination as long as your sleeper berth is at least 7hrs and your break is atleast 2hrs. They just have to total 10hrs when added together. If that makes sense.
This was really good. My trainer refused to teach me about split breaks. Then I had to use a split break my first time out on my own and I had no idea what I was doing. Thanks for this video.
You’re welcome
I think your trainer doesn't know how to do it, it's a big mystery for most people.
@@jaimetheone9150 I bet he doesn't.
Trainer was a piece of sheet.
same exact thing happened to me-_- these companies really should do better with picking trainers
After 22 years on the road I was forced into a situation where I had to learn how to do a split sleeper berth. I’ve always been on paper logs since I’ve owned a glider since before the Elog mandate went into effect but I’m not a good liar as far as running 2 log books and found this video tonight to help me understand how it works and do it correctly. This was the best explanation I’ve found.
DUDE! That was the simplest and most effective way to explain the 8-2 that I’ve ever heard!!!
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
We have been trying for so long to understand the 8/2 split... out of ALL of the NUMEROUS videos we have watched, yours is the ONLY one that helped us understand this fully!!! I love the diagram. I am a visual learner and this helped so much!! Thank you!!!
I’m glad it helped you out. Thank you.
I totally agree!
Just started long hauling from local and I needed to understand this crap, best video EVER
you have a wonderful teacher he did a great job.
Thanks brother I've been driving 25 years and never could understand the 8-2 split and never used it, that by far is the best explanation I have seen or heard and may try it now Thanks again
Brother, THANK YOU for taking your PERSONAL time out of much needed rest to explain this to us. I understand this 8/2 split a lot better. Thanks to your video I can go over the material to have it sink in my hard head. BE SAFE!
You’re welcome.. Glad I was able to help you out.
This has been the most useful video on TH-cam about the splitter! Thank you! If you could please do a new one on the new 7-3 splitter rule!
I have been running on a split this whole week just for that purpose. Glad this helped you out.
@@wwbbadventures can my 8hrs go into the next day? And still not off the previous day 14hr violation???
You explain this WAY better than anyone else
THIS IS THE BEST EXPLANATIION I'VE WATCHED SO FAR...THANKS
Thank you..
Thank you for jumping right in without the extra useless pointless mumbo jumbo token. In my personal opinion when someone makes an informative video to where someone is learning something they should get straight to the point versus a daily blog you can talk all you want
You’re are welcome. Trust me I have some of those mumbo jumbo videos to 😂😂 it took me some time to learn how to just shut up and talk about what the video is about 😂😂 I’m glad it helped you out 💚💚
This was the best explained video I ever seen!
Thanks my friend!
Thank you. Glad it helped you out.
I can think of 2 good uses for this. 1. To start your route or 2. To spend less time "sleeping" and more time mid shift on a break instead of 30 minutes. I'll explain incase that sounds useful, but first to shoot down anybody trying to gain drive time... The time between the two 8 hour SB resets will equal the time between your normal 10 hour resets... exept your only using 13.5 hours of your 14 hour clock (8 and 2 but no 30 minute break because it's included in the 2 hour part, as long as you don't go 8 consecutive hours on duty) ...anyways... you can't gain time unless you really work that 30 minutes per shift. Sooo to start your route. If you were up for 6 hours waiting on a load. You can take it, leave, shut down 4 hours later to sleep "8 hour SB reset." Get up and have 10 hours on your 14 clock and 7 on drive time. Drive 5 hours and stop to rest/eat/GO SHOPPING/etc for 2 hours. Those 4 fell off. So now you have 6 hours drive time and 7 left on your 14 clock. Next stop could be your regular 10 hour rest or keep rolling your long breaks and short bed times. I left out pre and post trips... so they will eat your 14 clock.
Your 2 hour break DOES pause your clock as of 2023. It may not have when this video was released, since I know there were some rule changes a few years ago.
I have tried to understand this for a while it took only this video to get it! Great explanation!
my question 🙋♂️ is the two hours off duty & after two hours i take 8 hour break in the sleeper does that count 10 hours i can run 11 hours right???
Thank you brother! I was so confused about drive time and you just explained everything so simple. Appreciate you and your efforts to help us truckers.
Thank you! Glad it helped you out..
This is by far the best explanation of a once confusing subject that I've ever seen. THANK YOU FOR THIS!
Glad I could help
About time somebody explained this so I could understand it. Thanks Man!!!
You’re welcome..
@@wwbbadventures this is very interesting explanation of HOS for drivers. But I am curious, did you make a mistake in your last example at 16:35? Your example at this point you have a 2 hour break, 1 hour on duty not, 3 hours driving and the 8 hour berth for a total of 6 total hours on duty. You then said you have 8 hour drive time and 2 hour of on duty not driving time. Wouldn't that make it a total of 16 hours on your 14 hour clock? 2+1+3+8+2=16? Yes you can get in 8 hours of driving since you only have 3 total before but if you do that wouldn't you need another 2 hour break or would you need another 8 hours berth time to reset the 14 hour clock?
It is very possible I made a mistake. I will have to watch it again. It has been a min since I made this video. Thanks for letting me know either way. It was late when I recorded this and had been a long day. I should probably do an updated one that is a little newer.
7 -3 split is here on sep.29th
Thanks. I seen that. I plan on doing an updated video.
On the second diagram how did you come up with having 6 hours of drive time to work with?
What about if you do the 8 hour break first and then the 2-hour break. you get the hours behind the 8 hour break too or no??
Thanks for your explanation. I took pics of my eld last week at the start of each split to try to figure how much time I'd gain after each break, then another pic after each break to track what was gained. After watching this video, the times gained now make sense. God bless and thanks for taking the time to teach others!
I’m glad the video helped you out. Be safe out there and god bless.
Finally after 1 year driving i got it 💪🏽💪🏽 great video
I appreciate you putting this up. Very educational on maximizing my clocks while still staying in compliance with dot.
September 2020 FMCSA changed the rules. The short break, either 2 or 3 hours, DOES pause the 14 hour clock now.
Bro, I don’t have good listening skills English, but you make easy understand bc you do slowly and with good pronunciation, also you use subtitles… your explanation is amazing thank you very much.
Good video dude that’s how you explain the split sleeper rule I didn’t realize the time b4 the splits drop off, other TH-cam videos never explain it like that, now I get it.
You are welcome. Glad I was able to help you out.
Jesus….I actually understand this now….finally after all these years driving…great video!!
Great explanation and we could easily get confused. However the guy did miss one thing which is crucial and that’s the little button on the main HOS page
The one that says “will pair SB” you must press, tick the box for all of this to work, otherwise it won’t and you will have to revert back to the full 10 hr sleeper berth rule only. I got that little snippet of advice from another instructor on TH-cam. BTW that applies to Omnitracs. Good luck guys.
Thanks for adding that information for us.
FYI You don't necessarily have to do an 8-2, 2-8. You can do any combination between 2-3 Off and 7-8 SLEEPER. For ex. 2:20 OFF and 7:40 SLEEPER. As long as it totals 10 hrs.
Exactly. I made this video before the change to HOS
How do u count whilea at the shipper
This person is genius ❤ thank you so much for making us understand how it works.
That was great and it worked good being tired cuz you explained it slow cuz let's face it most people are watching this while they are driving to the shipper or receiver hoping the can work some magic
Glad it helped you out.
This is the best explanation but how do you calculate your on duty hours you're going to get back? It is probably the same way but I have a question I don't do a lot of on duty time unless I'm driving I usually go to sleep at bertth do you get any of that time back if you log it as sleeper berth?
I have been in the trucking industry for 11 years and owner operator for the past 3 years and I have never ever understood the principle of a split break...... This is the very 1st explanation I have never come across that I can actually understand.....
The hours do jump around like a spider on its Web.... And I do not like that part of it but at least I can follow your examples...
Thank you for taking time out to do stuff like this for people like myself
You’re welcome.,Glad I was able to help.
As a flatbed driver I usually spend well over 3 hours every day working and not driving. I feel like it gets more complicated in my situation because my 14 hour clock is what limits me, not my 11. Considering how the 2 hour break doesn't stop my 14 hour clock, i feel like i could be robbing myself of more time.
What good is my 6 hours of extra drive time if I only have 2 hours left on my 14? I feel I could seriously mess up my week trying this so I've always been hesitant to try haha
I also drive Stepdeck and I run on a split probably 75% or the time for that same reason. I hate when my 14 hr clock limits me. So I run on a split so I don’t lose my drive time.
Thank you! You answered my question at the end if I can do the 8 hour first. I really appreciate it. But I'm the grammar police lol its Berth not Birth 😂
😂😂
Lol. How many people didn't catch that lol. And love the name.
Thank you! This is the first time it’s been explained in a way that I understood it!
Muchas grasias señor , muy bien explicado , la mejor explicacion simple y clara 👍🏾
The best explanation I have heard. Thanks. I always have been intimidated to utilize the split berth and only because every body made it very confusing but you did a phenomenal job. 👍🏽
Thank you. I’m glad I could help. I use the split a lot now days. Especially cause it does not count down your 14 hour clock anymore. So I can set at a shipper or receiver and not stress.
@@wwbbadventures currently my situation .
So in order to use this split, I need to click on the "will pair SB" and stay that way ?
What about the consignee unloading time takes 5 hours and I mark that 5 hrs as sleeper berth? Will I just take the next 5 hrs to keep it rolling, or I still need at least consecutive 7 hrs sleeper time for it to work? After all, DOT wants to make sure driver to have 7 hrs continued sleeping time?
Can box trucks do this as well?
does the 8/2 or 7/3 split reset the 14? meaning how can you keep going if the 14 will be ran out from its starting point?
Does this work for running Recaps? Or will we have to do a 34 hour reset?
At 55 years old I need all the sleep I can get so I always take a 10 hour break and sleep like a baby so I’m fresh the next day .
I hear ya, 66 years here!
im 39 im i feel the same but this sneak trick its just to use it as an emergency in my opinion
Taking the breaks just takes time off the 10 hr consecutive.
This is the second time I have watched your videos yes this is the simplest video out on this but I just wanted to refresh myself and remember I'm going to get me a board so that way I can write down my stuff it's just much easier because these elds and get confusing so I figure having the board would help me anyways so thank you for making these videos I hope you're staying safe☺🙏🏼💞
Does drive time have to be exact or do the minutes over the drive time calculate
Do you do post trip before the 8hrs sleeper?
Yes sir
Thank you,does this also work in Canada?
*Now I can understand this. U made it look easy. Thanks* 😊
You’re welcome 😃
thank you so much for this!!! This was easier to understand than the other videos I watched!
That’s what they need to teach us at driving school!
Awesome video man, simple and easy to understand. Best video about the split berth crap.
Best SSB video on YT!👍👍👍👍
If I go to sleeper berth from PC will it reset my clock at the end of an 8 hour SB
The new ELD that I got will add hours to my clock after my 2-hour break. It does not wait for my 8-hour break to occur. Is this correct?
E logs would show how much time you can drive after the 8 .?
Thanks for the lesson. I like your use of graph. I think that will help me by doing the same. Less confusing that way. Appreciate your effort and time. Stay safe brother
is really good and always you have hours to drive. Awesome
Do you have an updated explain for the new rules as of Sept 2020?
Can I go to arbys instead will it work still?
The best explanation ever!!! Thank you!!! God Bless you!!
You’re welcome. Glad I could help
Man thank you for breaking it down like that. Finally UNDERSTAND. Thank you.
You’re welcome. Happy to help..
If I take my 30 minute break before my 8 hours are up, does that effect my split sleeper?
Thanks for that explanation brother. Really helpful. Thumps up .
You’re welcome. Glad I was able to help you out.
I know this is an old video, but towards the end you were counting your 2hrs. off duty towards your 14hrs. You were legal, but you still had 2 more hrs. if i understand this correctly. Am i right or wrong? I thought i was grasping it until the end. Thanks for the video and any response.
the best on TH-cam or anywhere thanks you
Thank you thank you. First video that helped me with this
Will I get hours back if I do 2 hours off duty after doing 10 hour sleeper berth?
Does the 2 hr work if my 14 hour is running because my 11 hour was eaten up by D.O.T chicken coop? 🐔 🤔
Thank you! The visual helped me finally get this.
Glad it helped you out.
Ok so I started from a fresh 14. Im now at reciever with 2:30 left on 11 and 14. Im now in sleeper birth. What are my options? Does 2 hr in sb pause my 14?
8-2 split explained at best, thanks.
I have a question I came in with a fresh caught and I drove for 5 hours and 6 minutes if I go into the Sleeper Berth for 8 hours how much time does that give me in the morning of DriveTime right now I have 4 hours and 54 minutes of driving time left and 6 hours and 21 minutes on my 14-hour clock
It stops ur clock and once u get the 8 hrs SB ...will give u the remaining hours to comple the 14 hrs shift and 11 driving
Finally a video that made sense, thank you
At 13:45 , you said 7 hours of driving is left after 2 hours of off duty , that is fine. But can he still take 2 hours of on-duty after that as you mentioned in the video because: 1 + 4 + 2 + 7 is already 14 which is the max for shift. Kindly reply . thanks a lot for the clear explanation.
I made a mistake and did not catch it. I plan on doing an updated video. Thank you for letting me know.
@@wwbbadventures Thank you for your reply.
Kindly make video on New Sleeper Berth Rule
If possible , can you explain the SB rule example on page 31 of this webinar by FMCSA
csa.fmcsa.dot.gov/Documents/HOS_QA_Webinar_July2020.pdf
I knew how but wanted to watch your explanation, you made look easy on paper but a little trickier electronically
Is this the Wait Time exemption everyone is talking about?
I have always calculated between the breaks then subtract from the full clock, I read the dot book but was confused untill a driver showed me on paper log when I first started driving.
Dot book makes it confusing I guess because I couldn't see it
The graph helped a ton. Thanks.
Thank you sir this is so much more clearer and very simple to follow my trucking school could never explain it anymore simpler than this they at least in my case they seem like a complete Egyptian hieroglyphics to me but now thanks to you very much uncover the veil for me if every instructor is able to convey all subject this way in schools it will be a lot less stressful. Big two thumbs up for your video sir 👍 👌 👏 👍
Hi, i think the example on min 13:53 is wrong since u get 7 hrs on duty and driving and u state 9 hrs on dury. Where should be 7 hrs both ... Good video
So if you drive for 5 hours, sleep for 8, drive for 2, then sleep for another 2. How much time would be left to drive on?
Zachary Conrad should be able to drive 9 hrs is mine guess but that's not good combination since you need to take 30min before 8hrs drive
Can I make personal drive on 8 hr sleeper ?
I can’t remember if I have used personal conveyance on my 8hr or not. I would assume it would work cause PC is off duty.
@@wwbbadventures frankly, I’d be pleasantly surprised. It seems we’re talking about making another 15 minutes a day work in our favor on average, if we’re lucky. It doesn’t seem like the rules are really meant to give more than a very small improvement. I would love to be wrong about this, of course.
It does not work. It has to be 8hrs in sleeper berth only
Do this work with keep trucking app or this is for just paperlogs
Yes it does. I use keep truckin in my truck. I run 8-2 splits a lot.
Does the 2hr have to be continous like the sleeper birth
Yes, but it can be off duty or sleeper berth. Or a combination of the two.
@@wwbbadventures one more question whats the purpose of using this when running out of hours or if youre trying to rush to a location it can be a bit confusing
A couple of good examples of when I've used this is when you are on a tight load that delivers in 4 days. When you use the 8-2 split, it removes the need for a 30min break, so you can get to the receiver 1h30m sooner than if you were doing 10hr in the sleeper and taking 30min breaks. The other situation I like to use it is when I know a shipper/receiver will take 2hr-3hr, so I plan to get there in the middle of my drive shift, go off duty during loading/unloading, that way I only have to take 8hrs off that night instead of 10hrs. It's really useful if you run consistent loads, and you know your shippers/receivers/customers. Also if you team drive, you can alternate 8/2 with your codriver and avoid both of your 30min breaks to get across the country pretty quick. I would assume that a lot of high priority or high value loads have teams that alternate this way to avoid unnecessary stopping
Eugenio Rivera I usually use this when a shipper or receiver would take to long and get me close to the 8hr mark. So say a shipper takes 6hrs to off load you, then I would just hang out another 2hrs and activate that 8 hour break. Then start running. Rather than start running after the shipper has held you up for 6hrs and you now only have a few hours left to drive. Hopefully that made some sense.
@@wwbbadventures thanks now i understand i really appreciate that spent 15k for cdl school didnt even touch this topic
Great video bud ! Thank you ! Keep on trucking ! Be safe !
Can you do something similar for the 7/3 split
yeah but how can you keep going on splits like that if your 14 is already run out. wouldnt your 14 be ran out?
What happens the 30 pti,and 30 minutes brake.
Really important question I accidentally went off duty then I changed it to sleeper berth will 2 sleeper berths connect the time into 10 hours ?
It should. Your 10 hr break can be a combination of things. It’s just when you’re on an 8/2 or 7/3 splint when the whole time has to be logged sleeper berth. Well the 8hr part at least.
This was very helpful. Thank you, I've been struggling with this.
Just curious what 2 1/2 break off duty and 7 1/2 sleeper berth, will get you?
Same thing. You can use any combination as long as your sleeper berth is at least 7hrs and your break is atleast 2hrs. They just have to total 10hrs when added together. If that makes sense.
Best explanation ive heard 👌🏿
Thank you pal for this info great explanation,keep on doing this kind of informative videos for truckers!👏🏻💯👌🏻
Where does the 30 min break come in?
It does not come in. You take an 8 hour break and a 2 hour break.
So do you leave will pair sb checked the entire time?
Yes, keep it checked
What if you just wait 2 more hours after 8hr Sleeper and have fresh shift , is ti doable?
If you wait 2 more hours and take a 10 hour break then your clock is reset back to a normal 14 hour day.
Since September 2020 short 2 or 3 break also stops clock. Good video.
After 34 SB why you don’t start with PTI ? Isn’t that mandatory
You are supposed to log 15 minutes pti after you have a 10 hour break and after a 34 hour reset
Yes! Thank u ! This is the best video ive seen so far
Thanks.. You are welcome..