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Support this channel on Patreon www.patreon.co... Built this bad boy for our friend steve , a super simple waste oil burner
for forge or foundry
TypicaL 40k watt waste oil burners use about 4 liters of waste per
hour I have built units that use up to 2 gallons per hour or about
145,000 watts I use oil burners for many things mostly for burning
tree stumps out of the ground, waste oil burners work great for
forges or smelting metal. Ive built many types of waste oil burners
from syphon nozzle waste oil burners to drip feed to vaporizer
coil waste oil burners . these also can be used to build a furnace
and heat very large areas . the most efficiant waste oil burner
i have biult is a siphon nozzle
atomizer and it uses about 4 liters of waste oil per hour .
do not burn transmission oil it is toxic .Oil Burner Designs
Drip Style
? Low Tech. No atomization.
? Natural Draft possible (no electricity)
? Mother Earth News’ design is widely used. Designed in 1970’s.
? Today’s motor oil has additives that resist degradation and allow engines to run
at higher temperatures. In effect, waste oils are now much harder to burn cleanly
and likely require preheating and atomization.
“Gun Style”
? Conventional fuel oil burners
? Modest efficiency improvements over time - although overall burner design hasn’t
changed much
? As homeowners upgrade to modern heat pumps, these old style burners are
ubiquitous in scrapyards and can be purchased for very little cost.
? Most can be operated without modification with up to 20% biodiesel. (B20)
? Predictable issues with higher ratios of biofuels - ‘gelling’ and damage to rubber
seals. Commercial biofuel safe pumps and preheaters available.
? Very convenient, tight design.
Siphon Nozzle
? Requires high capacity air compressors
? LP can be used in lieu of air
? Fuel pumps not required
? Preheating for reliable viscosity
? “Constant level device” to maintain consistent fuel flow
? Simple DIY nozzles can be made from off the shelf hardware
? Manufactured nozzles available for retrofitting gun style burners for Waste Oils
Babington Style
? Fuel flows OVER nozzle, rather than through nozzle
? Imagine fine mist from a whale’s blowhole
? Filtration matches your pump - not your nozzle
? Requires sump and pump
? Same preheating issues with alternative fuels
You requested failures. Here is a video of a Delavan nozzle I have been working with. I have pressurized diesel for fuel. Pressurized Air is filtered for water and trash. The biggest flame I could muster is about a foot long.
The nozzle is very touchy. It floods.
It is very subject to water in air.
It is very subject to air bubbles in fuel.
At the end of the video I finally got a 12 inch flame.
th-cam.com/video/vmg55zJBGsI/w-d-xo.html
I am going to the big chamber type chamber .
It works using the Ace Ventura effect? Cool!
I just built one, I ended up forgoing the adjustable height just for the sake of getting it done sooner. It works pretty well, once I get the flow rate dialed in I’ll post a video.
THAT IS EXACTLY THE BEAST REQUIRED!! THANK YOU SIR!
MY biggest concern with the build was flame impingement......any time your mixture of oil droplets and air you create shoot (IE putting a spoon in a candle flame?) this I think will ELIMINATE that worry!
THE BUILD STARTS NOW! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
🔥THANK YOU🔥
Off to scrounge up a combustion chamber, I will film the initial test and First heat in my mini forge!
I may have to instant message it to you? I’ve never posted (don’t know how) here?
GREAT VIDEO! ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CALL!!
❤️🇺🇸GOD BLESS OUR UNITED STATES ❤️🇺🇸
Use heavier main burner tubing to conduct more heat to the rear end & rap the end in hi-temp insulation to increase the temp in that area.
Those crucible that you buy online I built mine oil burner and I melt those things down they are worthless I had to go back to half inch steel pipe do you have a crucible to keep from melting it down I actually use cast iron
Maybe I missed something? But why the small hole in the top of the chamber where some of the fuel is burning from it>
to pre heat the chamber and the air , it keeps the beast hot , plug that hole and you loose efficiency, its inducing flame migration to cooler sections of the reaction
Thanks for that question & answer
reckon how much higher for the grass to survive? thanks!!! i would be forging if i go this direction. running coal now,,,,harder to get....i have free unlimited used oil.
Great tip about the synthetic oil. What size blower is that. Cheers from Australia.
I'm definately going to have a go at making this. I like the idea of not not needing compressed air. cool build Man! cheers
hi Nobox, this looks great, i''ve finished constructing my furnace and only after a few firings with an Air/diesel syphon nozzle i've deceided they are too much trouble. (also so noisy with my huge air compressor going all the time) so i was looking about for something simpler and found your vid. I've got a nice dyson housing for a blower. i just need to weld up the little combustion chamber. Do you have any advice on the shape/length? do you still use this one? (i've seen another that's a cylinder but it's upright). i'll let you know how it goes :0 cheers for the great vid o/
Hello, Should I open the side holes inward to the burning place? Thank you
Off subject did you go with stainless on your boiler because of ...price, melting point, pressure rating, easier to use, or price? Hope it's cool to ask. By the wayyouve disproven several things u said was not possible. Lol. Hey y'all stuff used to not be possible.
Corrosion resistants
What kind of blower did you use
Hi! Have you tried to melt bronze with it?
Invest in a tripod! All that running around holding the camera makes it difficult to see clearly. And repetitious comments are unnecessary - unless you're looking to make a long, boring video. You are an intelligent guy with interesting projects but you lack video skills. Try slowing down and focusing on what you are doing and maybe, a little scripted narrative and you will have a decent channel.
yep i too need a go pro lol or my ch. would have taken off already i miss out on lots of footage of crazy shit
no one is here for his camera work skills
As I noticed in later videos you are mainly using syphon nozzles. So what's your conclusion now? which type of burner is more effective?
blower units dont work anywhere near as good
@@NOBOX7 That's what I thought. Thank you!
If you know what your doing for every one gallon of propane you can get 9 gallons of molten aluminum
not the best idea to burn synthetic
you did not show us how to ignite that thing and how long it takes to ignite to get the perfect flame?
I am using a waste oil burner to heat my 720m³ shop. Using about 1000 liters for the winter season each year. But im lucky, i have a scrap yard accros the street that gives me the oil.
For people that just want to try it it is kind of hard to get that much oil somewhere. And then you have to somehow transport it home and store it. Its just not worth the trouble. But because we get it from acros the street we just pick up a few 200L barrels on the forklift.
And yes it works great. My shop isnt perfectly insulated, lots of places that arent air tight by far. But still with -5c outside we do manage to get it 25c inside the shop(wich is way to hot to work)
excellent comment friend , you have told the truth where so many others are selling a lie , thanks brother right on man for telling us this , i hope more people see your comment because after my little bit of testing i realised waste oil heat is not practical at all , i tell people you need barrels not gallons lol . im having alot of luck with my wood burner , people are giving away firewood every direction you turn your head
Over here i have to pay about €55-60 for 1m³ of firewood wich would be around the 450kg mark. And wood is about 4kw of energy per kg. That would mean that i would need a shitload of wood if i where to burn as crazy as i go with the oil.
The other side of it is that you can just put wood everywhere. No problems with police that dont like you transporting a load of wood(you can get in trouble if you transport lets say 1000 liters of waste oil) And no risk of it leaking and getting you a HUGE fine for leaking waste oil in to the ground. So yeah all in all the waste oil is only usefull for those that have a easy way to get it, and a good way of storing it. And also dont forget you need to clean the waste oil burner way more then you need to clean a wood burner. With the woodburner just clean out the ashes and once a year the fleu and you good to go. With a waste oil burner you need to clean out all the black crap that keeps building up everywhere. And if you have a bit of spillage its a huge mess to clean up(as you have discoverd and we have seen in your vids). So would i ever run a waste oil burner inside the house? NO NEVER. Would i use a wood burner in my house? Yeah no problem, those can be really nice if you have the space for it.
Camera work is shocking
I'm so keen on a oil burning forge
I noticed a bigger air blower
The vid showed a tiny blwer no knocking you but I Need a 12 plus hour forge no ash or volcanic glass of impurities
How long burn time do I expect from your designs cheers from Batchelor Northern Territory
Hello youtube wont let me answer people any more let me know if you get this
Saudações do Brazil ..qual temperatura atingida ?
1000c
why dont you insulate the burn chamber?
Привет! Очень жаль что непонимаю очем ты говоришь, приходится только догадываться о чем идет речь.
NÃO DÁ PLA FAZER UMA TURBINA A ÓLEO DE COZINHA 👍
You are wasting fuel out your ignition port. Converge the end of the combustion chamber, and put a small venturi in the exit tube. Then the flame will at least be blue w/ no smoke. More efficient. Hotter by 25 percent.
I have a 1900 sqft. House. I can heat it in 20 degree weather to 60- 65 degrees w/ 16 pounds of lump charcoal and 1/2 a gallon of 50/50 diesel waste veg for a week. Costs about $20.
This is awesome. I’ve been saving oil. Canola as we fry a lot and synthetic from oil changes. Even take my neighbors spent oil. Appreciate your work. Badass!!
If thats a vacuum cleaner motor I dont know why you soldered the pipe to the side of it, place the back of the motor in a tube with a reducer to your burner.
I just convert my typical wood burner into an oil burner. No fans,simple construction. Max heat i’ve got is almost 600” celsius with around 1.8 to 2liters oil. I can not say how much is the power in Kw. Usually spend 0.8 to 1.3 L oil per hours in cold days / under 0 “ celsius. My garage is 8.5m x 4m . When burner work 2 hours or more temperature in garage is 22-23” celsius
Hi NoBOX, this is fantastic design. Can I ask a question about the fan power required? I want to make something similar but the electricity is the issue for remote communities we are working with.
I just built a waste oil heater out of an old oil stove, it's minus -15 ( garage size 20 x 16) takes around 25 minutes to go +10 which is easily warm enough, however we frequently experience -30's to -40's for months on end. ( add the / with wind makes it dangerously cold ) I've only tried Pennzoil ultra synthetic 20 / 50 (Last oil change) I used about 1/5 gas mixture to thin it out. But am wondering what kind of effects I would experience with normal 10/30 motor oil - I did the mix with diesel last time and it didn't seem to make any difference, ( I start the stove with gas on small piece of rag ) For people with unlimited $funds propane probably would be so much easier. ( I always used wood stove ) but am getting to old / injured / pain which prevents putting up enough wood to last through the 4-5 months till spring. Thanks for the video, am looking forward to building a foundry.
Out of curiosity would ceramic coating help the longevity of the burner
I've been building my forge for about a year now. On and off. Some fail some achieve . Def a trial and error. I'm lucky enough to have a stock pile of oil :)
Thank you for sharing your failures as well as the successful projects.
yep i pick up 275 gallons of WMO a shot.... i just delivered 900 gallons to my buddy last week
dropped off a 300 gallon home heating oil tank i picked up for free for him also
and i just picked up 250 gallons of wmo yesterday free with the GF
So, you want to heat the oil/air mix earlier? Why not extend the outlet tube way inside the cylinder, nearly to the "cold" end and put the input to the cylinder nearer the hot end...
Have you tried a ceramic lining for the combustion chamber?
Would adding a extra blower on opposite side would it double the heat in Center
nice🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
sweet the perfect gift for an effeminate type an tell him just add used oil ,,i know just being silly
Before filming, please learn how to hold camera.
I had to break a few eggs to make an omlet
Good
The truck shop that I worked at in Iowa we ran through 2500 gallons of oil and diesel rear end fluid a year and some of the worst winters we had to buy oil
Your video would greatly increase in its appeal if you could be convinced to keep your camera still, eg. have it on a tripod...
Yeah , i suck , sorry man . im making improvemnts in that area
You said you did not have access to oil.
You can use used cooking oil. Just filter the used cooking oil and get the food particles out. It will burn great.
If you put the appropriate ball valve on the top you could stop the loss of heat through it.
how many liter waste oil / 1 hour ..?
Can you start the burners on cooking oil and then add synthetic once the heats up
Where did you buy your fan
Made easy, outstanding performance. Good job
Going with this design, stuck on wondering about how to execute an adjustable height stand...
get 2 different sizes of that square unistrut kinda like the kind sign post are made of and slide one over the top of the other
I built one in this style, works great. Only suggestion would be to use a sheet of stainless steel as a liner to help with radiant heat. In mine the insides get yellow hot fast while the outside doesn’t get hot enough to glow.
I'm able to filter my oil down to 10 microns. Is that sufficient for a drip feed burner?
yes
Can you make me one?
Yes but youtube hates whites guys and will likley not give you this response , youtube comments have bin disconnected
Very good and easy can use in poultry farm ???
Super informative, many thanks for all the testing.!
Above all, thanks for sharing your knowledge.
I agree with you to much talking before test
hello from Brunei in Asia. tq for sharing
Hello friend
Got little dizzy there..
yeah i need a $30k gyro cam
would you believe they didn't give me the option to stop the shaking usually they offer
Yeah, that’s weird..
30k for a cam? Wow, that’ would be out of my realm :)
Lol i was kidding bro , and yes my camera skills leave much to be desired , dont worry i give myself a good ass chewing in editing, it just doesn't seem that shaky at the time of filming
NOBOX7 I know man, I’m suffering from the same problem.. I enjoy your videos! They’re bit too stretched to my taste, but, not horrible :-)
I’m planning to build myself a burner to smelt some aluminum. However, you say they’re loud, may not work for my neighborhood.. I might end up doing just charcoal and a blower, will see.
Your awesome love watching your vids. I'm thinking about making me one that I can n urn wood in as well
well give me a second and ill send you links on that very device in several different sizes , unfortunately i didn't film half of my wood cyclone burners , they are amazing devices
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I have videos of such a device
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