Waste Oil Burner Table Top Size
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- I made a waste oil burner out of a small Blower I bought from fleabay which turned out to be small than I anticipated. I scaled down a design I had in mind and built this as a test platform to see if this idea for a new Design Vegetable oil Burner would work. It DID!
I'll do some more R&D on this with a bigger blower and modify it to be something useful for cooking.
This would run for many hours off of the small battery shown. I have not measured fuel consumption but as always that depends entirely on the output of heat you want.
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Looking at doing another Burn Barrel in the near Future. Just trying to get some parts which is difficult when you aren't allowed out your front door atm. Stay tuned!
Nice!!! Been waiting for that for ages! Gotta think of something cool to throw in. Lawnmower engine?
@@canadiangunner0190 I spotted a lawn mower Chassis the other week and was thinking of that but turned out to be steel. I might contact a local Mower shop though and see if they have any they would donate.
@@glumpy10 if I lived closer I would donate several. I'm only about 14,000 miles away if ya want to pick them up. 🤣🤣🤣 Looking forward to a melt video.
@@rodneysrepurposingrecyclin3821 Thanks mate, the offer and the sentiment is appreciated anyway. If anyone around Campbelltown NSW wants to offer anything for melting, That would be good.
I just got hold of something I've wanted since before I found your channel, more than 10 years ago - an orchard heater- also called a smudge pot, smuggy or chuffer.A nearly two meter tall, oil burning monster that'll churn out a ten foot radius of heat - enough to cook your dinner at arms length... lol (how was that description? lol)
Mate, you always manage to put the ‘mental’ into ‘experimental’…bloody brilliant!
My frustration here at work is immediately minimized because "old-burner" has provided a video ...!
I'll watch the video after work with a cold beer!
TY OB !!
If you get dislikes, that means you're pissing off the right people. Love the sarcasm and creativity. Cheers.
Totally agree! :)
A table top burner, with a nice long orange flame. just the thing to keep your friends warm on a cold winters night. I gotta build one for next winter.
I found it very easy to get old fire extinguishers, I just went to our local Fire Control company and asked them if they had any old, disused extinguishers and the fellow took me out the back and I was able to help myself to a range of different sizes. Ended up with over a dozen. It cost those companies to dispose of their old cylinders and they were happy to give me some. "Ask, and you shall receive"
Hi there Oil Burner Love Your Videos and Great to see You back.Your Plans are Blue Print Quality and Safety Tips are World Class. Keep up the Excellent Work
You have no idea how much time I put into those plans and Blueprints but I'm sorta managing to get the time down to almost nothing now! :0)
It's always a pleasure to see your asome ideas. Thank you for your time and effort. Have a great day!
Been trying to make small burners for years, attempting to overcome every failure with more complication, you're an absolute diamond, a gentleman and a terrible welder, I'm almost definitely going to copy this, just got to figure out how many inches from the nozzles I'm going to stick all my jets.
Ah the return of the safety briefings, quality.
"a terrible welder" Well that part is True at least. Would you Believe I have never had lessons? :0) Small burners are definitely the hardest because I think they are so much more critical in air/ fuel and retained heat than larger ones. Also just thought of Bending the tube down after the the air output so all the oil ran that way and not out the front if there was excess. Keeping that hot zone is the thing to keep in mind with these though. I'm sure whatever mods you come up with will be an improvement on this design and look forward to seeing them.
@@glumpy10 the commercial dripper we had at work used a gear pump which should have delivered consistent fueling but still the output varied considerably throughout the day, and that was 30kw or so.
It'd be a pig to start but from what you are saying it'd benefit from a bit more mass around the hot spot.
My access to free jet A1 has been interrupted (I might have taken the piss a bit) so I guess it's back on the black stuff matey.
It's nice to have you back mate in case I haven't already mentioned it.
@@turboconqueringmegaeagle9006 The holy grail of pumps for this application is peristaltic or dosing pumps. Some you can program to the exact amount of Liquid you want. Not cheap here but may be where you are. They are used for medical and chemical dosing applications. The little pulse fuel Pump I had in the L burner vid has been good too. With a timer like I showed and a bit of measurement and calculation you could get these fairly accurate as well. Jet A mixed with Veg or engine oil would be good. I'd Like to get a good amount of transmission oil to try. I have a feeling that could burn pretty clean with Minimal residue. Mate of Mine used to work in the Navy on sea kings. He got that special jet fuel with all the anti corrosives in it. Mixed that with a bit of Veg and put it in his Diesel truck and with the few mods he made the thing was Unbelievably quick for a stock engine. Scared the crap out of me a few times in it. Thanks For the kind words mate. You are a Motivation and an inspiration. I have been thinking about that Mega burner we talked about years ago. Still want to give that try to scare the Neighbours.
You had me at Rocket Surgery! ROFFL
You would be amazed how many people don't get that and try to correct it back to one or the other.
Good to see fire again! Love seeing your different designs.
Been looking at oil burners for a while on YT, primarily for a Aluminium melting furnace. This design (and your others too) which don't need a full size air compressor are just what I was looking for, so thanks for this 🙂
I think the compressor designs are wasteful and unnecessary. As I have said 100 times, the key to oil burning is NOT atomisation, it's heat but people can't seem to come to terms with that.
I have seen people that use industrial engined compressors to try and get enough ait to get into the higher output ranges and still fall short where I can do it easily with a 400W blower.
That said, don't need much power at all for a furnace to melt ally, 30 KW is heaps if you are doing it sensibly and practically.... unlike me! :0)
@@glumpy10 Also, I think the idea of preheating the oil and air is a great way to increase efficiency and power output. The simplest way is just by coiling a capilary tube around the burner where it's hot and flow the oil through it. If done correctly, the oil could vaporise before even leaving the tube
Nice doggie!
You have no idea how much I love that pup. Had a lot of great dogs in my time but she is something Very special. NEVER seen a dog that wants to play ball as much. I mean constantly. Would not be the first time I have got up to go to the bathroom and ended up playing fetch with her at 3 am. Wouldn't be the 20th time either.
Cmon, man! Make one that whistles and screeches! Lol I loved that one!
You can put a bypass line on the output line, back to the fuel tank so as to control the amount of fuel to the burner. pinch closed the bypass line a bit for more fuel.
G'day and how the devil are ya', all the way from the UK
Love your channel, not over complicated and I think most people first come across other channels with the spray version, but simple is better.
Lovely and simple,typical aussie thinking..no bullshit.
Hi OB...
Good to see you...
The thought occurred... 🐱 ...
The fuel regulation...
either....
Gravity feed .. with a gate tap .. with a cut in it to produce a drip feed ..
or
a tee junction with valves and return what's not needed back to the tank...
Regards Mark UK.
Gravity feed I'm just not that big on any more. I find it fiddly and varies. On big burners it's hard to get enough fuel in. On some of my old burners I can get outputs I never could with gravity when I pump the fuel. The T Idea is a good one I have thought of before. Use that method on my oil processors so I can run a pump normally and regulate the flow through the filtering or drying outlets. Also thought of an overflow feed. Could be gravity or pumped. Have maybe a larger tin, outlet on the bottom to burner, larger overflow say half way with a feed from the tank going in the open top. as long as there is a slight overflow, the head height and control of the flow into the burner will remain constant. Over flow is either pumped from catch tank back to feed tank or emptied when it gets full. Still subject to oil thining as things warm up but a lot more consistent than straight gravity feed.
I'm an expert at fucking off... Boss man said so!
Another great video, thank you! I'd love to get a burner about this size running. Also, good luck with the insanity down there, we're spinning out of control up in Canada as well!
Superb as ever. please keep em coming 🙂
Love the vids mate. Informative and entertaining. Imperial measure has been around for thousands of years, no need to catch up. Ga day.
Fair crack about us Yank Imperialists! Appreciate the laughs.
My only suggestion would be maybe use some iron pipe lying around. Same layout as this design, but the down tube is a nipple, welded. Then the inlet tube with a pipe elbow can be screwed/unscrewed as needed for use. Would make a very compact design for storage. Maybe use a stainless steel scrubbie stuffed down the tube to improve the atomizion?
Cheers!
This guy is great!!!
Rock and roll!!!
All thanks to my mentor!
Nice! I think it might be an idea to cut of the back part of the pipe and replacing it with a pipe of same length but bigger diameter. That way it will be like a turbulence chamber in the back where fuel have more time to waporate.
Definitely something to consider. I'd probably offset it down so it would hold the oil and just let the gas out. OTOH, getting the air in there in the first place could be difficult. Heavy gauge metal that transferred the heat could help though.
@@glumpy10 yes making offset down would be best probably to proven back splash
"If at first you don't succedd, well don't take up skydiving" ROFL, oh that gave me a good belly laugh, thanks.
HE IS BACK. Didnt get this on my feed offcourse because wel its youtube, you didnt post for a while so it wont show.
As for this project. I think a pump with a constant but lower flow would improve this thing A LOT.
YES OB is back!!!!!
Love it! Wonder if the downvoter was an old unit user 😃
Nah, he probably one of those Tesla lithium eater types. :)
Good to see you back, its been a while.
It's been very Humbling to read all the very kind comments. Trying to make more regular Vids.
If you had a fuel ratio of 1 part petrol to 10 parts oil it would be much easier to light, sustain and control :)
I need to fit a wide band exhaust sensor and couple it to an old car computer. Now that would be something.... something about 1000 levels beyond my paygrade but there are people out there that are smart enough.... Whom I hate! :0)
@@glumpy10 I just thought it would be a bit easier to start as that is the mix I normally use.
Nice clear audio, good volume.
Very hard to judge the sound when I'm filming. Glad it came out alright.
I've never known you to be a minimalist. LMAO
Thanx for another great vid M8! :D
Well I am already working on getting the thing going a Lot harder and a Bigger unit that works on the same design.
WAIT. I JUST REALIZED. You can put some peltier cells near the hot spot! To generate electricity to make it self-sustaining! You'll need big heat sinks and an extra fan on it.
ps: Maybe have the blower feed fan blow the fresh air through that heat sink to save on fans. It'll probably be a U shape pipe.
I looked at Peltiers recently. I'd need at least 10x 40mm size and have to maintain a 100oC temp Differential between the hot and cold sides to run this. Peltiers put out VERY low power. Not enough surface area on this example but the thing could be scaled up. I doubt this blower would have enough output to keep them all cool enough. Use more power for the blower and one might end up chasing their tail with having to add and cool more peltiers. The return air setup would probably be a bit beyond my engineering abilities but others could give it a crack. The idea has one advantage over self powering though. Pre heated air. Everyone thinks of reheating the oil but that takes VERY little energy relatively. The AIR weighs much more and is a larger thermal mass on drain on the process. Heating the air rather than the oil is MUCH more effective but something else people dont seem to get. Setting up the sealed air passage would be difficult for my ham fisted approach, a small solar panel on an old car battery would run this thing day and night forever really and that's more in my lack of skill set. :0)
@@glumpy10 Very well thought out, though peltier technology has advanced. But yeah a basic small solar panel would be easier, simpler and more reliable. Peltiers do degrade faster than solars do.
Also, technically, everything is within your skillset, but patience doesn't allow for it (:
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Cut a notch, weld on a bit, and you'll have a flaming organ.🤔🤔🤔
Well, a whistle, a flaming big whistle.
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Told you it was Musical!
@Oil Burner
I've been experimenting with small oil burners and recommend an AVC BA10033B12G fan; similar size to the blower you're using but a 40w tiny monster. About £12 from Aliexpress really forces air into these tiny burners.
Love the ingenuity and simplicity of your OB designs, you deserve way more subs 👍 👍
Desktop oil burner!!
Sill with us, old timer ? (:-) Ready for some portly, Aus adolescent pyro video. We're sure your neighbors are as well!!! Keep that spark...
Hey Mr. Burner, you said you would have a go at a flame spreader head, for a weed burner & snow melter ! You haven't put out a video in a long time for your loyal fans !!!! We need better guidance on our mission to trigger off the safety sissies and enviro natzi's .... We like our old imperial measurements so how about a 3 footer less a c hair .
Gud vid 💯💥
I don't think the car silencer burner falls under the 99% shier bloody luck factor but was still cool to see.
Pun intended😂
By The Way, Heat exchanger is an interesting idea
Funny enough, although I had forgotten about it, the 2 Burners operate on the same principal really. A different way of radiating the heat to vaporise the oil. The outcome of the Muffler burner was pretty unexpected with the noise level but that thing would run hard. I have a CAT converter I want to do a burner with and not you mention it, there are a couple of other small Mufflers up the back I could play with as well.
Can you share the details of the pump you are using?
You are right! We don't want you to be a welder for the new Australian submarines. But maybe you could volunteer your services to the Chinese navy???
Now THAT is a good suggestion. You should be a vocational officer with an ability to match peoples lack of skills to appropriate employment like that! The way Oz is going atm, I might have more freedoms in Chynaah as well.
Ha, brilliant and funny.
VERY interested in your glow plug experiments. I've farted around doing similar with glow plugs with sometimes good, sometimes bad results! Seems that glow plugs like fairly nicely controlled volts and amps, so one of those e-Pay controllers for about a dozen bucks with volt and amp limits are your friend! Else you roast the glow plugs pretty quick. :)
Yeah, a Decent pwm should do it. They all tend to be rated at oddball volts like 10 or 11 which I take it is to allow for voltage drop when they kick in. Probably why if you feed them 13 or so they burn up quicker. I have had cars I never changed the GP's in for years and then others that seemed to go though them no matter what brand you put in. Other people with the same cars found the same. People have said depends on combustion chamber design and location of Injector. I don't know but just seems in some Diesels they last and some they are real pains. My merc and Nissan were fine with them The Peugeot went though them in months if that. Something else I had for a while blew through them too. Gave up in the end and rigged a Pump to squirt Metho in the inlet and it would fire up on that.
@@glumpy10 Yes sir - a decent PWM will do it. I found one on e-pay that can be set to a maximum voltage and a maximum current, so you can limit both. Works a treat! Keep up the good work! :) Looking forward to your experiments. :)
@@kd5byb got a link to that PWM? Sounds very versatile. I could build a power supply with something like that.
@@glumpy10 What screwed me up finding it was that they don't call it a PWM, they call it: "ACEIRMC 20A 300W CC CV Step Down Module Adjustable DC 6-40V to 1.2-36V Voltage Regulator Buck Converter Constant Current Power Supply Module"
A nozzle will make the burner light quicker thats all, what he's doing is like a hot bulb engine. He's using a hot iron to ignite his oil . A sprayer nozzles uses a small pilot light that is why the oil has to be a finer most to ignite.
Great video. Thanks for the detailed plans. Could you use a dog food can instead of a cat one?
Have you ever put a heat reflector like a torpedo heater has on front of the burn chamber just wondered if it would make it put out more heat or not
Greetings!
I want to melt steel in an oil fired furnace but the flame keeps blowing out.
The burner is super simple a 36mm ID pipe with a smaller 6mm ID pipe running through the middle of the large pipe and terminating at its end, dripping waste engine oil into the furnace.
The air blast is powerful enough to where it breaks apart the oil into smaller droplets scattering it onto the furnace wall, the problem is no matter how much I turn the air blower down it still blows the flame out, I tried mixing the waste oil with diesel a 50/50 mix because waste engine oil is more difficult to keep lit but still it blows the flame out.
I tried shoving a burning rag soaked in oil in front of the burner and then it ignites and burns with a roaring flame but the moment the rag burns out the flame goes out again.
I know that if I atomize the oil it would be much better and more efficient but it gets way too complicated and costly, also judging from a reply you gave to a comment on this vid that heat is the key to oil burners and not atomization and watching a bunch of Pakistanis melting stainless steel with a super crude drip-fed burner and waste motor oil, atomization is not necessary.
I have achieved steel melting temperatures before but with radiator oil it was very thin and it burned very nicely.
Thank you in advance!
I think it's people just not getting your jokes. I find them hilarious and before you insult me, I'm an American who does understand the metic system and maybe the rest of the world just needed something simpler to understand. Just kidding but I do wish you all would stop mis pronouncing aluminum. It took me a long time before I found out we were talking about the same metal. Lol
Technically couldn't you put a glowplug so you can pre-heat the fuel without the need of a torch? :V
Yes, that is something I have been head scratching and thinking about. Painful with all those splinters in my fingers but something I have been considering. When you want to put a GP ina bit of pipe, amazing how long even the short ones are and the amount you have to offset them.
Repair those welds with a hot glue gun. Quick and easy!!
what fun!!...any reason you didnt just gravity feed the oil?
Might be better with a gravity flow so you can control the fuel better. Just a thought.
I would like to see you build smaller and smaller burners could you pull it off?
Probably not. Smaller they are the harder they are and I have no interest in doing that. Small oil burner is a candle. why would you want less than that ? :0)
I rather build them bigger! :0)
@@glumpy10 wanting to build a smaller one that runs on batteries to carry out into the woods
@@carlehall9231 Look on my Vid list for one of the last burners. The Draft type.
You could build that pretty small , don't need batteries and could be used as a stove as well.
@@carlehall9231 th-cam.com/video/K_sOy3N08S4/w-d-xo.html
Like the videos and the way you present them 👌.
Do you have a oil burner that does not use a fan?
Yes, check out my second last Vid. A draft burner that uses no fan or other input. Can run in the middle of a paddock. Check out the rest of my vids while you are at it.
@@glumpy10 thanks, will do.
Tin was 3 quarters full … how many mills is that
If you run this all day is there any crud deposit build up in the pipe? If so how do you clean it out? Or this is not designed for long term use?
No, I have not run this all day be no reason it could not. As long as it was run hot, there would be no buildup.
May I ask how you determine the kw outputs?
"Time we get on with the rest of the world" okay I'm sorry we made it to the moon first.
You realize that the scientists working on that used SI units, right?
SI may be great for easy calculations, but it's meaningless to me. My brain thinks in American system terms. I know, almost instinctively, what an inch or a foot look like and I'm pretty good estimating those measurements by eye. I'm way too old to change that now. So I'll just convert units as needed via phone app.😁
the dig at American's about ml's 👏👍so much good stuff on TH-cam comes from America but they don't want to except the metric system
The man said for the Americans it is time to catch up with the rest of the world. Well why should we learn the metric system when the imperial system is just fine.
@randyvandeusen Because they are just random units. The metric system all joins together, such as 1 litre of water weighing 1 kilogram, and the imperial system. How many ounces is a cubic inch of water? I'm not saying the imperial system is wrong, just confusing.
@@randyvandeusen5600 I am a proud American and I think the imperial system is confusing too
I am perfectly fine with the imperial system. It's not confusing to me at all. If I get on a project that calls for the metric system well then I have conversion charts to get the job done.
Maybe for all of you that want to change to the metric system here in America should probably learn different language other than your native language.
Note on a blower...rip off the Mrs's hair dryer 💁🏻♂️. Actually I picked up a $10 cheap one taped the button back so I'm not blowing hot air and viola I've melted copper with it.
Seen them used before but somehow never got round to Finding one. I should give one a go. They are cheap now in those Dollar type shops.
@@glumpy10 I did get my burner going btw, I wasn't getting hot enough to get the oil going but in the few moments it burned back pressure choked off to much oil. My solution I added a Tee with a few 🧐inch pipe acting as a air hammer....now she purrs very nice and consistent
@@duanesharon Yeah, that is a good Idea. I did that many years ago in one of my vids to pressurise/ equalise the fuel tank and it worked well. Meant that there was always full gravity feed and any back pressure was cancelled. I Put my feed right from the blower outlet where I though pressure would be maximum so may have added a few pascals of pressure to the tank as well. Wouldn't be much but better than nothing.
1mm is closer to 40 thou so there's that.
How do you rate the different burners in regards to kw
Oil consumption. 1L/Hr is close enough to 10 Kwh of heat energy.
did you try melt anything with it?
No, I built this more for a space/ water heater than a furnace heater. No reason it wouldn't power a small furnace but might be a bit slow.
What is the most amount of oil you've been able to burn per hour?
about 120L hr.
@@glumpy10 WOW! i"m still trying to get past 35L/hr. Might need a stronger blower. I find mine can go about 2 hours max before it starts pulsating and and blows itself out
@@bend4850 maybe feeding to much oil. I found on my test burner putting in more oil blows it out.
@@danp1224 bigger cfm fan will allow you to burn it all
Robert's your avuncular cousin
Love the comment, ( and could not agree more,...) @ 1.05 American viewers.. " It's time to get on with the rest of the world " - Will they EVER...?
"No! They are dead set against Metric even through they have cars with 5.0 on the side, 2L "Soda" Bottles, their Military uses "klicks" ( Km) and so on. Ya Know, it's not the fact they want to stick with the imperial system that gets me, I just wish they would learn to write the Bloody date in a Logical order like everyone else! Fk me! Are they talking about the 9th of March or the 3rd of september? If they tell you something you never know if they are talking about their way or yours and they are totally and completely different. Mate of mine from Texas says he's coming here for work on 12/2. Could be 10 months different depend how you read it. Is he talking my time or his? Who else writes Middle, Small large with anything?
OTOH, there is a 12mm spanner, a 13,14, 15..... And then there is 3/8, 9/16, 5/172nds, 14 .5 Twelfths, 42 What the hells?.... AAANND then, SAE, Twitworth, Cubits, Nanowarbles......Agggh!
Believe it or not we officially adopted the metric system soon after signing the peace treaty with Britain. But as Chruchill opined, "You can always trust Americans to do the right thing, after they have tried everything else." We're just not quite finished botching up the Imperial system yet, but we are close. :)
@@glumpy10 Three artifacts of Americans giving Ole King George the finger --
1) We switched to drinking coffee rather than tea.
2) We adopted the crazy date scheme just to be contrary. Reality was the northern colonies used DDMMYY and those pesky southern colonies were XXXDDYY, the XXXs written out. It is attributed to Jefferson that came up with the MMDDYY format. The weird bit, all our legal documents are 'The _____ day of Month of Year'.
3) We F'd up our beer and gave up drinking stout.:(
I could go on for days about some of the 'Why the hell do we do it that way?'. Maybe after another oil burner, eh?
@@glumpy10 Don’t say “they”. Haha As a freedom monkey I hate our measurements. I speak in metric whenever possible. You’ll also appreciate whenever I’m speaking to someone I know that uses proper units (whether it be date, measure, etc) I always state both so there’s no confusion. But I usually joke and say “212 degrees Freedom, 100 degrees Canadian”.
Hey mate love your vids. Not sure how to contact you but got a paid job for you if you're interested to help design a custom waste oil burner for a recycling company in northern nsw. What is the best way to get in touch whilst maintaining your privacy. Thanks
Their should be a contact link on the main channel page. I have an address set there. Let me know if you can't access it.
It's in the " about" section.
@@glumpy10 you're gonna get a visit from the OSHA and a wellness check from the IRS and the carbon foot print people. What are you thing to do evaporate the oceans down there? It's your summertime and there you are building fires. Go drink a light beer and eat some Mexican food. Good on you mate
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So it is not sustanable
What do you mean its not sustanable
So?
Needs a small adjustment.
You doing ok? Hope the commies didn't get you.