Things have changed significantly since I was dating in the 1970's. Women didn't describe a guy as 'creepy'. If she didn't want to go out with you she said, 'No thanks,' and that was the end of it. Things have gone way too far away from reason.
Maybe since Trump won the go back to just saying no thanks and that'll be the end of it instead of all this drama and just making a scene and accusing you of being a human trafficker
@@johnh3611 , That's not what I meant. What I was trying to express was that if I asked a woman out and she said, "No, thank you," I left her alone and didn't didn't pursue it any further. Mom taught me that "No" means, "No, go away" and I did just that. I wouldn't have expected her to refer to me as "creepy," just "not the right guy for her." I'm sorry I wasn't clearer. I agree with you that there are creepy men out there and now women are more empowered to call them out, as it should be.
As and extension of that, you can also be just not interested in women at all. Then not approaching just becomes what you do automatically. But you actually have to be not interested. You can't fake it -- because it's YOU who will know the truth. Don't lie to yourself.
In case you're in a hurry: 1. She thinks you're unattractive (doesn't mean you aren't attractive to someone else) 2. She's uninterested and you continue to chase her 3. Obsessive behavior (like blowing up her DM's) 4. Inappropriate comments / sexual harassment Edit: good god there are so many incels in the comments. You want to know why nobody wants to either date or be anywhere near you people? It's because you treat women like a commodity you think you're entitled to that should bend to your will. You’re the reason people choose the bear, so if you want a partner, be someone that a woman would willingly choose over the bear.
Regarding blowing up her DMs.. Serious advice to every guy out there.. Don't text/message women other than to meet up for a date or to hang out. Don't try to rationalize why you should date, what your feelings are etc. Only if you are having sex with a woman do you open up and text/message more otherwise you should be radio silent.
@Zachary Cole Women love things they don’t like. They might complain about the guy that never texts back I bet that’s the guy she is sleeping with though, I bet when he does hit her up she’s getting nailed by him the same day. I know it’s weird to us men, we can’t wrap our heads around it. But if you want to think like a woman you must get rid of all logic.
To the point of a woman thinking a guy is creepy if she isn't attracted to him, the irony is that most women will get upset when men say there's no point in interacting with them without a physical component. The reason this is true is because without it, they're judged the same way we would judge another guy which is to say, she needs to be interesting or useful. Even in relationships, most men only kind of finding his woman interesting because men and women are different and tend to have interests based largely on their sex. If the physical component was removed, the vast majority of those relationships would end instantly. As far as usefulness goes, again because of interests that stem from a person's sex, most of the services that men hire out, tend to be filled by men. Explain this to a woman and watch her lose her mind.
"4 Things That Make Men Seem Creepy To Women" 1: not being chad 2: not being tall 3: not having money 4: speaking, looking, thinking in her direction while not being #1-3
I had a woman who kept using me for a dopamine release. Every month or so she kept using me for conversation and then would ghost me. Id ask her to link up to hang out and she wouldn’t answer me. Then I’d leave her alone and she’d pop up again and again just to say hey. So I now ignore her cuz that’s toxic and immature of her to do. I realized some women do this because they get a kick out of attention and want their ego stroked. Be careful of these attention demons.
If you don't get a date from her in a few days to a week? Move on.......too many of them pull that crap now a days and too many Men are naive and got given unrealistic advice about Women and dating growing up or were raised by their mom or most of or all of the adult authority in their childhood were Women or the Men in their loves growing up were henpecked.
@@elijahwilson1422 the problem is they take for granted of the options they get while they r young and pretty. They take advantage of the market and play these games until their time is up. That’s when they come back around and say they “are done playing games” and r ready to be serious. That’s when u give them the rug pull and leave them to their misery. I now know to never play their game. Like u said if they aren’t cooperative off rip move on.
@@elijahwilson1422 I usually give them a month to meet in person. Depending on the level of communication though. If you are hitting it off with someone and having a conversation every day then there is no reason why it should take forever to actually meet. Contrarily, if there is no communication really and they don't make an effort to get to know you then two weeks and move on. I personally don't meet girls that I don't at least talk to on the phone once or twice just to feel them out. You never know who you are talking to online.
I live in a town where women seldom dress up. I saw a woman in a store that was very nicely dressed up. So I said, "Excuse me but I just wanted to tell you I think you look amazing." That was it. I wasn't hitting on her. I didn't ask for a phone number of even try to make small talk. My intent was only to give a compliment where I thought it was due. She called me creepy. So... I just don't give out compliments anymore. It is not worth the time or effort to be nice to people.
Amen! I just see a hot chick, give her the old visual once over, silently fantasize for a moment and that’s it. Outside of common politeness…please, thank you, excuse me, they don’t exist. They did this to themselves. It started in the 1960’s with feminism and it’s gotten completely out of control.
Bingo buddy. Save your time and money . Stay clear. Also I don't even look at women because they always got their bitch face on anyway. Don't have time to look at that ugliness and negativity. The only thing like and love, well it's green, and it's called money , that is all I have time for.
That wright I gave a complement to a coworker and she jumped down my neck lol it was just a compliment nothing more .she says we are collge.our relationship is strickly professional .
There are a lot of creepy women out there as well. 1) Stalking 2) Clinging 3) Feel like you have a relationship with her friends and her, or in-laws and her, or both 4) She needs a sugar daddy or has daddy issues 5) She tests you too much at the wrong time: 'stands in front of the TV during a big game' and wants to distract you 6) She is constantly insecure 7) Women who constantly try to change men or make men feel they are the problem.
Definitely,...i think this vid is advice for decent guys that may make some errors and come off "creepy" but not necessarily a creep outright,..those types need some therapy and serious self reflection and a different issue completely. This is just some common guidelines really,
I'm 61, so I've probably been there, done that. The worst rejection is being told 'you creep me out'. I was so shy in school I couldn't even talk to a girl if attracted to her. Patience is a must in today's world. I did ask a lady once if she needed a hug. It was meant to console and not meant in a sexual desire. That hug was the beginning of a 16 year relationship. I like the advice I hear, here. 👍🏻👍🏻🙏🏻🤗
There is a BIG difference between asking "Do you need a hug" as you did, and "Where's my hug?" as Courtney put it. The latter is an entitled demand. 58 in a couple weeks, nice to know I'm not the only old fart here. and I've learned so much from Courtney; only wish all her info was around when I was in High School.
A girl who thinks you’re attractive will literally excuse any bad behaviour. A girl who thinks you’re unattractive will just label you a creep regardless of any good behaviour. That’s all there is to it.
Seriously, we've become so overly freaking sensitive these days. Whats just as bad are those who constantlyneed an ego boost. 2022 was horrible, we need to do better in 2023. If she isn't interested, just bail! If she says she has a bf, BAIL! If she isn't responding to your texts, FREAKING BAIL!! Start small, go out once or twice a week, meet them in real time! NO MORE PEN PALS, TEXT BUDDIES, DATING APPS, ETC.
no if she doesn't have a boyfriend it's you vs 10 other "options" .... but if she does have a bf it's 1v1 kinda narrows down the scope and helps define your odds a little better lol
@@CourtneyRyan Excellent video, Miss Courtney. I will disagree on one point, the light touch in the small of the back as we're passing behind someone in close quarters. I do this with both women and men, usually saying something like, "I'm going to squeeze past you." IMO, it's not creepy, where brushing past groin-to-buttocks is. (Or buttocks-to-buttocks.) It SHOULD be obvious if a man is just passing, versus wanting to act like a dog wanting to "rub" your leg. Personally, other than shaking hands, the only touch I will initiate is like a touch on the shoulder or arm to get the attention of a waitress in a loud environment. However, I have accidentally gotten a handful of, um, breast. Out of the corner of my eye, I thought the young lady setting next to me was falling, and just reacted by putting a hand out to try to break her fall. I had an apology to make, and she was graceful about it. She had just suddenly bent over to get something out of her purse that was shoved back between our chairs. So sometimes, the man may not be doing it to be "creepy," it's to avoid a more uncomfortable action.
You say "bail" Yet sometimes the people who don't bail.. who don't burn that bridge. End up marrying that person. Because Life is insanely complicated. Love is not a game. Stop treating it like one. Use good judgment and live your life and try and find Love and get to know people. Maybe the women was being completely ignorant about the guy and since he kept trying eventually it worked out. Nothing wrong with that on the guys end. And nothing is wrong with dating apps either. Meeting people in real life is so difficult because again... it's all just a game now. As a Man you can't even approach women these days. You can't just talk and get to know eachother and go out on dates. You need to have charm and do everything perfectly...
@Jordan Hansen OP is right, don't waste your time. Good luck chasing a woman down who already told you she isn't interested for months and months. I'm sure you won't end up resenting her for your inability to accept what you don't want to. Women get terrible dating advice generally but one good piece is "if he wants you, he'll make time for you" and the same is true for men. If a woman blows you off or tells you she's not interested, then fine. Walk away, you're more likely to get her that way anyway.
Well good thing I'm above average in everything except for my height, but if you think being short is going to prevent you from getting girls, then it sounds like your mental fortitude is your biggest weakness and you need to fix it. I'm below average in height yet I'm balancing 4 women right now. Grow up and level up smh
@Gerardo A i’m a musician, i’’m educated, i’m confident, i’ve been learning a form of Kung Fu for nigh on three years, i’m 6’0” tall yet women won’t look twice at me. I smiled at a lovely lady not so long back and she looked at me like i’d just besmirched both graves of her grandparents
One of MY personal favorites is when I used to work at a retailer, I'd greet a customer (Hello, how are you? or Hi, need help with anything?), and the immediate response would be an abrupt "Sorry, I have a boyfriend!!!" 🤦♂ You just walked into a place of business and declared your attachment to someone else SIMPLY because an employee did their job and greeted you or offered assistance? Makes perfect sense, skippy!
Sounds like a fun gag would be to get a ring, put it on wedding ring picture, then hold up your hand, brandishing the ring. You don't even have to say you're married. She will just assume with ring, ha ha, right?
Did you have a uniform on? Or was the dress code at your work causal to where someone might mistake you for a customer? Maybe those women didn't realize you were an employee?
@@carnationsensation Full uniform with the company name on the front and back of the shirt, on the front of the utility apron, plus on my nametag. My only thought is maybe she's frequently hit on by guys in aprons? 🥴
Courtney does have a number of videos that talk about how so many women just "can't find a good man these days" or otherwise seem to just have trouble in dating relationships. The kind of woman that Courtney describes in point #1 absolutely deserves any difficulty she might encounter in the dating game. Guys, any woman who calls your normal (non-creepy) behavior "creepy" to boost her ego is T-O-X-I-C and immature. Do a 180°.....fast.
You're absolutely right, once a woman tells me that she isn't interested, I don't waste my time with the stuck up witch and hope that a house falls on her
@John Sampson I kinda had a somewhat similar experience at school last week when I was doing nothing and eating breakfast, and a when a bunch of women sat down at the table, one of them mocked me for no reason after another one of them said “I hate men” despite the fact that I was minding my own business, and didn’t do nothing. It’s not exactly being called a creep, just as few woman being assholes and messing with people who are minding their own business instead of just leaving me the hell alone. I never said a word to any of those strangers, yet if course when a bunch of women sat near me, the only dude around, I have to be the one to get messed with or hear some sort of sexist comment. Yeah, it’s not always a matter of misunderstanding, some people just want to be assholes to people that they find as different from them, even if the difference is just your sex.
The reason the signals are confusing is because I've had girl co-workers tell me about their dating experience and sometimes they say, "So and so didn't try hard enough" or he gave up too easy. So we don't know if she is saying no or testing us to see if we give up too easy because if we give up too easy, then men come off weak. So the conundrum is, if you approach aggressively, then you come off creepy and if you give up too easy then you didn't try hard enough. What I find crazy is even average looking women in CA play this game; that is, they want to be aggressively approached by men because it gives them an ego-boost and attention. So they will make you chase after them and then say no, just to crush you because it makes them feel better, that they are wanted. I'd say 8/10 women in CA are like this. These are the women who never find a date and end up holding out into their 30s for the perfect man.. lol.
try harder these days could mean Finding yourself in Court/Jail too so its probably best to take at face value & move on, if you can be bothered to even pursue at all these days
creepiness overall would be the impression that she would have reasons to believe you're bad in bed or would be a bad father. that has to do with your net worth and your ability to basically sound "normal" and the 3rd being "knowing your expectations" because if you were good in bed you would already know what kind of girl you can pull in the first place. If something seems a bit "off" in that department you're creepy and probably should work on women who have lower self esteem who feel they deserve to be with someone as creepy as you. It's all a mind game lol.
Can you imagine how creepy the book 50 shades of gray would be to women if the character was poor and ugly lmfao it'd be some black snake moan, silence of the lambs type shit
I totally get the hug thing. I had a friend who believed that hugs were for women and handshakes for guys. He was always hugging attractive girls at work. And you could see them cringe everytime.
Some woman are also into the 'business hug' or air kiss. I hate both in a business or professional situation. It's handshakes for all. Nothing more, nothing less, nothing else. For most women, I don't want you near my body, I don't want to be near your body!!
Modern women are truly leftovers. There is no point trying to understand these stupids. Dump and find traditional women in other coumtries in the only solution.
I have been through this a lot. In middle and high school girls called me creepy out of the blue all the time, and it was so annoying because I never did or said anything creepy. Yeah, I wasn’t the best looking, I was 5’5 and overweight (reached 191 pounds when I graduated, but lost 14 after that), but I tell you, a lot of people will associate anything out of the blue with creepiness when they don’t find you attractive.
If they say that you are creepy out of the blue then they most likely are building their ego or maybe they even want your attention and don't find you creepy at all. Many good looking men are victims of such women.
Added advice: #1 reading the room and self-awareness. If you failed to read the room you can come off as creepy or weird #2 Having desperate vibes will come off as creepy if she isn’t into you #3 At parties, don’t approach from behind. Approach from the front and don’t immediately touch and have a good attitude.
@@prussiansocietyofamerica And with Tattoos... think of how easily they let this man see them naked in many cases. This tattoo artist probably has more of a relationship with her and has seen more than her actual bf that she expects to chase her for the same right. Yeah im assuming a lot here, like she has a bf and stuff.. jk ... i mean im assuming the tattoo artist is a man, which tbh it probably is in most cases. Why even waste the time with her at all? There's much better than this lunatic who lets some in for free if she wants a quickie or personal marks, but then expects to be lavished with dedication and hard work. Nope, Hard PASS.
I'm autistic, and so I don't deal with ambiguity very well. So, I've adopted a pretty simple approach. If I make a request, and the answer isn't yes, the answer is no. This would be a good policy to follow for any man pursuing a romantic relationship with a woman. If you ask her out, anything other than an explicit yes means no. Just walk away. Either she actually meant no, or she's a crazy person. Either way, you are better off pursuing a relationship with someone else. What if she says no and really what you to chase her? In that case, don't walk away. Run. Because she's special and not in a good way. If a woman can't communicate her thoughts clearly, she not ready for dating. She's not even ready to be an adult. One other thing that should be added to the creepy list is catcalls. And this goes for both men and women. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a woman walking up to a man and asking him for a date. But when I was younger, and only moderately attractive, I had two different women yelling from their cars at me. They both had some complementary things to say about my rear end. And one of them offered me sex. Not the kind of gal I would want to take home to meet my parents. Yeah, women can be creepy as well. My advice for women who want to make the first move is to be clear and to the point about what you want. But don't be vulgar about. Ask for a date, but don't ask for anything else until after you get to know the man a little. For goodness' sake, buy the man a drink and have a conversation with him before you try to jump his bones.
@TerryProthero Thank you for sharing. I hope that you are happy. I am cursed with Aspergers/Autism also. According to Title Nine, if you ask a Woman for a date, then that is Rape. If you make eye contact and then say "Hello" and you do not get permission first, then that is Rape. Modern Feminism is about being a dominatrix. Feminism is a part of Satanism and Communism. Diversity Inclusion Equity=DIE. The bit**** who yelled at you from a car were being sarcastic. Feminism is about hatred and cruelty. In conclusion, you do you. You do what you got to do. Please may I recommend vitamins such as Magnesium and Fish Oil and throw away anti-depressants.
Saying hi, I get called a creep. I quit trying make eye contact with any female when talking to them, I look in a general area past them. Being ugly makes me a creep. I am married and have zero interest in any female, yet I am creepy for even attempting to be friendly or just a half smile. Even my daughter's friends call me a creepy old man because I won't even look at or acknowledge them. It's quite confusing... I am a creeper for looking in a general direction of a female, saying hi, or not even look at them? I don't get it...
I suggest that you should treat everyone with courtesy like face them if they talk to you or just simply wave a hand or nod to them to at least acknowledge them. Simply gesture of acknowledgment that you see them should be enough. If they find that offensive or creepy then just pay no mind to them. Let them get upset on their own mind. I think over thinking about this situation will just tire you out. If they like then who cares. At least we treat them decently.
Wow! Married guy here who wandered onto this video because it looked like an interesting subject in my TH-cam feed. What genuinely great advice this woman gives. There's no ego in it at all and it's coming from a good place. I also really enjoyed reading through the comments. Although people have had their struggles in the dating scene, it's so refreshing to hear honest accounts. Hey, we're all flawed and most of us are trying our best in life. What more could you do or want? As I've told other people in the past, I much prefer to be around good-hearted flawed human beings than "perfect" people.
Wow, absolutely fantastic. So the creator of these videos ignores all the other comments, but replies and thumbs up the one that aligns with her biases. I guess everyone else is wrong and they should just quit life
I'm a woman. Just came across your channel. This is sooo refreshing!! I think there are for sure a bunch of "creepy" WOMEN out there who are vindictive, mean and really mentally ill. Men deserve BETTER. Alot of women have ... really terrible beliefs about men. I had some too, when I was younger...thinking all that men want is sex, big boobs etc etc... However, I got a job, where I am often the only woman, or maybe there is one or two other woman, and about a dozen or two or three dozen men are on the job. Women... you all have some really really wrong impressions. I've come to not fear or be extremely suspicious of men - at all. They are wonderful!! They have a much better sense of humor and they are WAY more in touch with their emotions than they are given credit. I love and adore all these men. Respect. Respect yourself and they will respect you. Respect them, and they will respect you, and love you. ❤️
I started an internship last week and my tutor, a man a few years older than me, has been incredibly understanding and kind to me and another male intern, and I was really happy. All the other clerks there are women and maybe out of male solidarity, he's very patient and kind to us. Of course he's like that to the women too, it's just to say that he shows a very healthy kind of masculinity which I adore and isn't absolutely to be taken for granted
"I think there are for sure a bunch of "creepy" WOMEN out there who are vindictive, mean and really mentally ill." Exactly. But this society still has trouble exposing it.
Lol yeah im a woman who was the only lady also in a group of men at work They actually did want to date me and some told each other they were in love while I was there to make money Really disaapointing So if that doesn't happen to you doesn't mean it doesnt happen to other women. Maybe your not that charismatic
@@justinheiple seems like you're blue-pilled. If an ugly guy and an attractive guy did the exact same thing to pick up women, the attractive man would get more success.
@@masteryoda498 I’m not a “PUA fan boy”, I’m a grown ass man with real world experience. I was a bartender for 12 years. No, it is not true that most women think you’re creepy if you’re not “Chad”, if you had any real experience with them you’d know that. Get off the fucking internet and develop social skills.
The first point was super valid. What a Chad can get away with won't fly for a majority of guys so don't try to copy some of the stuff they do. Some of the best advice I ever got was to stay focused on whatever you're doing in the moment and be yourself. Also don't stare at women or elbow your way awkwardly into a social situation. I think those are two of the biggest mistakes the average guy makes.
@@justverysavage : Where did you get those stats? Did women get shorter? Your average woman is 5'4" and has been for decades. As for the weight, I am doubtful that is average. Anything over 140 would be fat as fuck on 5'3".
@chesleyruff4755 : The biggest broad and I do mean b r o a d we ever saw was in Oregon state. We stopped in one of those highway rest stops, in rolled this Nissan pick up. In the back there was this "sprawled like Jabba the hut" thing. We had to look multiple times. Yup it was this woman that must have weighed around 500lbs and that is how they were transporting her: in the bed of a truck. 🤣
I'm college, there was this girl that always complained this guy wouldn't leave her alone. She would go out with him for a bit then be distant with him. One day, I was tired of her complaining about him, so I asked, "Have you ever told him to stop texting you and that you are not interested in him"? She sheepishly looked down and hesitantly said no. Me and my friend looked at her and said that's why he keeps going after you!
i was familiar with the phrase "REJECTION BREEDS OBSESSION" but after listening to it i think "OBSESSION BREEDS REJECTION" courtney you are a pure soul sharing the real content. cheers.
@@CourtneyRyan - It's the Dobler/Dahmer Rule Girl dumps you, so you stand outside her window playing Peter Gabriel on a Boombox because that was the song playing the first time you had sex. If she still likes you even though she rejected you -- you're Lloyd Dobler from "Say Anything..." and it will probably work out. Do the exact same thing if she doesn't like you anymore -- you're Jeffrey Dahmer, and the local police will have a few questions to ask you.
@@Apeiron242 We're not talking about extremes,like pulling out a knife ,we're talking about a gesture's ''creepiness''factor being determined by the guy's looks Is she attracted to you?Then touching is normal and welcome Is she not attracted to you? i.e. You are ugly.Then touching becomes inappropriate and ''creepy'' Same action,different appearance,get it?. Stop pouting
On the flip side for the 2nd point, there are women who think men like the chase when we actually hate it and we want to know women like us or naw. I ain’t wasting my time with you, Becky!
Yup, and those women love to give mixed signals. It really sucks when you can tell a woman you are on par with is just indifferent with you and could go either way. This is honestly why half of women are going to end up single and childless by 30. It is also why guys have to pursue multiple women at once because of the games women play.
@brent4073 idk about Childless. There are women that are having babies with low lives that aren't worth a damn. Also, there are younger women now in days talking about how they would like to get pregnant by a random, good-looking guy and just be content with being a single mother.
i'm with you on that. i have always hated the chase and never understood why some guys liked it. i prefer, i put in the work to improve myself. that punches my ticket so date me without playing cat & mouse. otherwise f off.
I’ve always been self aware of giving girls their boundaries. I always keep my distance and once it seems the conversation is going nowhere, I just give a friendly goodbye. I then wait to see if she wants to continue the conversation, if not then that’s it.
I think not overstating your welcome is a great move, and if you think you had a good time you can write down your number and give it to her in case they want to contact you. If you really made an impression, she'll text you. But even if she doesn't text you, you're still doing something not everyone has the guts to do, which shows confidence and is a great reward by itself :)
I like what you said about women thinking men are creepy. Ive had my adult Daughters tell me stories about legitimately creepy guys messing with them and Ive even had to put a couple of them in their place. But they’ve also told me about creepy guys hitting on them or asking them out then calling them creepy. I would ask questions like “Was he polite?” “Was he respectful?” “Did you have a wedding ring on?” “Were you dressed seductively?” Depending on the criteria is what determined if the guy was actually being creepy or not. Many times I told my girls “You can’t blame a guy for trying.” I said “Your Mom and I never would have met if I didn’t muster the gumption to sit next to her one day on the vo-tech bus in high school.” I really had to talk myself into having the courage to do it and I had a friend who gave me moral support. It was a very scary thing to do because I was afraid of rejection even though her and I exchanged glances in the hallway that made us both feel like we got struck by lightening when we saw each-other Yes you can’t blame a guy for trying. Now if you tell them to eff off snd they din’t go away then it gets creepy.
I don't think that's true, but I think the defeatism that comes from that is the main reason why many of us 20 percenters have multiple women these days. I'm not complaining mind you, but I think a lot of us are doing as well as we are not because of any magical qualities or looks we have so much as a relative lack of competition.
@chickenandchips8802 I hope that your mindset has changed from when you made this comment. Because having a defeatist attitude will unfortunately yield failure unfortunately.
I don't approach women because I fear being seen as creepy, I don't approach them because I don't want them to see me as being not self confident. There is a huge difference. Plus, at my advanced age, why bother. My sexiest years are far behind me. Yet, women 40 years younger than I still show interest. Don't know why, they just do. Not all of them, obviously, but way more than I would expect...
I think a lot of perceived creepiness just comes from the man being nervous. I've been watching a lot the TH-cam channel More Plates More Dates, and he seems to agree with that theory and his proposed solution is exposure therapy. You stop being intimidated by women by approaching women until they no longer make you nervous and you start coming off as normal. He is probably right, but his solution is more easily said than done for most men today.
@@michaeldooley5398 Not that I disagree with your points, but trust me on this one: Women will and do try to "chat men up" if you are handsome and successful. It will happen to you on a weekly basis. Even married and engaged women would do that over and over again, no matter how clear you have rejected them.
Absolutely. I see it in myself all the time because when I get nervous I can tell that I'm starting to look fidgety lmao Which is miles different from chill me when I'm out with my friends and I can show my best side. A great tip my best friend gave me when I brought up a girl we know whom I don't really like but from the outside may look like we're dating was to try and act the same way with girls I like. He said something like "you don't like her, so you act normal and she enjoys being around you. Just do the same when you're with one that you like" and well, he's right
Short version: if you're not 6 feet tall, don't make 6 figures, or have 6 inches, you're creepy, and you're at risk for false harassment charges or being arrested.
Thank you Courteney for giving me a woman's point of view on this. I worked with a female who had a lot of bad days at work. Overwhelmed. Verbal. She would sometimes talk for over an hour when I clocked out about problems. I listened. Something I'm told is much needed. Don't try to fix it. Just listen. One day I delivered her mail at work. I heard crying. I asked if she was okay. Her back was to me and I came up to her and my hands touched her shoulders. She screamed "don't touch me!" This scared the hell of me. I was utterly confused. My act was out of concern and compassion. I wasn't trying to make a move on her. I got fired. Since then I've learned that I can't touch people at work on the shoulder, male or female. After my wife died I got full on body hugs from at least three members of management, only a couple of months prior. To say this is frustrating is the understatement of the year. I come from a small town. My family, my friends, my church hugs, touches, shakes hands, pats on the shoulder. It's a gesture of friendship and compassion. Nothing more. After my story got out people come up behind me and place their hands on my shoulder asking me if I'm ok. Their way of saying I did nothing wrong. It would be funny if it wasn't so serious. I'm blindsided by this.
@Tracchofyre Went to employment office and signed up for help on finding a new job. Told the nice lady my story and she began crying. She grabbed my hands (act of compassion) and I started crying too. Couldn't stop. Had to leave. Bawled my brains out in the parking lot for at least an hour. Another employee came out a couple of times to check on me in the parking lot. I think I had a full blown panic attack. I lost 9 people in the last couple of years including my wife. Then, I try to help someone and I'm branded some kind of pervert. I can't think of anything worse. The employment lady asked me if I'm scared of her touching me and I said I'm terrified of anyone touching me right now. I'm terrified of touching anyone. My pastor said don't even shake hands. I'm vulnerable. I'm grieving. And it feels like the predators smell blood. I realize I'm trying to cope and that it will take time, but seriously. ........ What happened to people?
There is a question that change me in a 180 degree , "Can you date yourself?" Analyze yourself and honestly ask yourself if you can be with someone that is 100% you, I could not so I change a lot of thing in the last 3 pasts months.
I am a man with a certain character. Looking for a woman with a certain other character! If I would meet a man like me, would I date that man? Of course not! When I was gay maybe! You don't have like yourself! You have to like the one that likes you! Could be two total different persons! I have flaws and don't find myself attractive (although I am not insecure) and count that the one I feel attracted to also isn't perfect! As long as she has the traits In a positive way to me, that I deem important! And vice versa!
If I went out with the female version of me I would hate it, as a lot of my exs have told me I'm hard work but I'm not as long as I'm getting my own way 100 percent of the time 🍺🍻😜
@@ackerjawaka1966 Hard work means you don't like him, but maybe he earns enough credits for you to let him stay the night, right?! I don't get the men that even consider such a woman! If I notice she does not want me as much as I want her, I lose all interest! The notion she wants me back is one of the essential attractors in a woman! Without it, I am not interested at all! I will do my best to please her, if I know that pleasing her will get her even more exited! Not to excite her in the first place! Maybe that is why I haven't had anybody in 10 years time, Although lots of women show interest at first glance! I refuse to take the first step because they always pretend they are not interested. Too stupid!
I am so afraid of seeming weird or making a girl feel uncomfortable that I have often let the opportunity to get to know attractive girls or simply have a pleasant conversation with them pass by.
I would add one more thing. If you ask a woman out and she says "no" and give you a reason, 99% of times it means that she isn't interested in YOU! It doesn't matter if she says she's not ready for a relationship, she's busy at work or her hamster died. She's just being nice and tries to avoid potentially awkward situation by telling you "no" without making it personal. Appreciate it! If a guy she finds genuinely attractive asks her out she will make herself ready for a relationship, find a time to meet him and forget about her hamster;)
Good topic. When my wife and daughter go to the gym they tell me about "creepy" guys. They don't mind the look with a smile or wave. They say the "creepy" ones stare or workout by them and look repeatedly but never smile or anything. I tell them guys do either because they like what they see but are insecure about approaching or they want you to acknowledge them to get your approval first. It's interesting hearing their point of view.
Bro some women not your wife and kid are annoying af at the gym and need to hurry the f up so I can get my set in and leave! Not lookin at you maam im waiting can u look at ur damn phone on another machine please?!?!
@@samsneadd 🤣 heard! We've got some of those. Dudes too! Before they started in the gym I taught them some gym etiquette to avoid being those people. They do pretty good. Put on their music, leave phones in the bag, and superset their exercises. I was impressed. My gym bros tell me that they put the work in. Sometimes the owners wife trains with them too. But hey, guys are going to look regardless.
Or maybe,like me, the women are hogging the machine and not even bothering to get off between their sets and I'm trying to work up the courage to tell them to let me get my sets in without being considered a creep for using the service i paid for.
True. First time i agree. With. All women do not use the term "creep " when referring to unattractive men. That they insult. It's only 99.865% of the women that do that!! 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
As a recently divorced man in his late 40s I feel so lost in the dating world. Your videos are helpful, it's very confusing out there And I feel so much has changed in the 15 years I was married.
I have a woman who I clicked with and we were going out on dates. Out of nowhere, she said she wanted this other guy, and she is seeing him now. We work together, and she keeps approaching me and flirting heavily, touching my hands and following me around. I work in a hospital, so it's a huge place with hundreds upon hundreds of employees (lots of people date in the hospital... it's almost like college where everyone is dating. Super different environment, almost like a little city.) But she follows me and seems jealous when I'm working with other women. She said she's into someone else, but her actions don't match her words. I think it's because I was supporting her financially, and she says the new guy she's with doesn't help her at all. You picked the other guy, so leave me alone!
@courtneyryan thank you for what you do, truly. You’re a calm reasonable caring voice in a sea of obnoxious loud sleezy influencers yelling terrible advice in our faces. You’re a gem, and you hold a lot of value to anyone lucky enough to come across you
The hand on back in passing can feel "creepy" but is often practical especially while navigating crowded, high energy spaces. People in crowds can unexpectedly move into someone else's path or gesture erratically which leads to all kinds of unfortunate interactions and misunderstandings. People are dancing etc. A gentle, momentary touch to signal your presence as you move through a space is gentler than a shoulder and can help minimize any number of much more uncomfortable situations. It can even ( often unintentionally) lead to organic meetings as the person whose back you briefly touched looks at you and realizes you just helped them avoid backing into waitstaff carrying a try or something.
@@soujemn5 Yea, this is a tough one. I too would rather body check a chick when collision is incoming, then make the effort with my hands for a softer impact (hopeing I land them in an appropriate spot. Cus i know if i had a chick, it would be WAR if some dude tried to do the same). But ultimately, I avoid crowds all together.
@@jwg9338 It's really not. Glad it works for you but I think the brevity in passing is what works more than the elbow. Elbow is the worst! Maybe a shoulder? A gentle and BREIF hand on the back is better than an elbow ANYWHERE. It's the lingering and or caress that gets into creepy land.
There's nothing better than being called a creepy stalker by one of your university classmates publicly in front of your whole social circle for responding to 2 or 3 insta stories in months or years. Not even knowing that you sent does messages and received no answer. By someone who you actually thought highly of both personally and professionally. You try to fit in and make friends and that's what you receive being ignored, and being in total social isolation or called names. There's nothing better than having those two words play over and over again in your mind in an endless loop until you're inches from doing something stupid.... People do not think how damaging they can be even with a few words.
Thank you both. You know there's a period where you don't care yet what others think. There's a period where you've been through so much shit, name calling, loneliness and so on where you don't know how not to care. There's the period when this leads you to dark pits of hell, which does bring you back to not caring. Thank you both for the empathy. All this shit does make ultimately for a great screenplay and I do think that the lows are important parts of us that also makes us apriciate the beauty in life more. :)
Thats not right, and sorry you had to hear that from someone. Some women and people in general tend to throw around that word too loosely sometimes. You likely have plenty of people (or enough) that know who you are and that you are not like that. In the meantime just totally block that girl out of your life and dont give her any excuse to accuse you of anything. Its against the law for someone to make serious false allegations like that toward someone and they shouldn't be doing that to begin with.
@@Mrs.Deanna_Ember I haven't seen or spoken with her for years. Last year I sent her a message telling her the kind of effect her words had on me. While also telling her that I think she's a good person. As I started writing my screenplay I wanted to copy that message out. She blocked me and she is probably in thousands of miles away in a different country. So I don't think we'll ever speak again.
The hand on the lower back in a crowded bar, means that you’re blocking the way, we want to get passed you and we don’t want to talk to you. It’s a gentle reminder way of moving you out of the way without just barging through!
Hahaha man that was pretty good. I've seen so many guys do this sort of stuff. On a bus one time... there was this young (early 20s ish) woman that had been taking my morning bus for about a week, at that point. I always sat in the very back, so i had a perfect view of this interaction. One day a guy that also took that bus walks up to her. She's sitting in the front, on the right, inside seet of the two seats. He approaches from the back. Sits down next to her, instantly blocking her exit. First words out of his mouth. "I notice you when you started taking the bus last week, and have been trying to think of what to say to you." Very next stop 30 seconds later. She says, well... I gotta go. Pushes him out of the way and gets off the bus. He didn't even say much else to her. But, it definitely came out the wrong way as she got off the bus a good 30-40 min earlier than normal and it was -30 degrees C outside the bus. Next wasn't scheduled for another 45 min. She never took that bus again. Gentlemen. If you are a young guy and you want to cold approach. Run the lines past an older male, or younger female friend first. Screwing up an approach ruins it for other men. My approach? I talk to every woman as if she's a married lesbian construction worker. I couldn't care less if it leads to anything more.
@@visaman that was probably 16 years ago. It takes a lot less than that for a young woman to get the *ick* from a cold approach these days. If you wanna cold approach a woman, perhaps first review Louis CKs bit about dating. th-cam.com/video/Qv0_eVsEBvA/w-d-xo.html
Guys, just remember; at the end of the day you are pretty aware of what is and what isn't creepy, I'm sure more than you expect. If you are respectful and understand when to back off you're perfectly fine. If she still finds that creepy after you do everything right, that's on her and it's a problem she has to work on.
I don't know man, I'm not hating on the young guns but a lot dudes and chicks in their early 20's are pretty socially retarded. Maybe it's an age thing but I think it's more of a living life online thing.
I seem to have lost my attractiveness. Women don't respond to me as they used to. They smile kindly and are very friendly, but I don't sense that they are attracted to me as they used to be, especially the under-30s. I don't know why. I'm only 76.
I discovered this channel 2 days ago and watched dozens of videos, that help me a lot improving my bad character traits and habits, as well as building my self-awareness. What I have to say is that serious, sincere and helpful women with depth of character like Courtney are immensely valuable for our society, while being the ideal wife material we should have in mind... Keep up the good work!
I’m in a relationship so getting girls isn’t something I need to work on. I started watching because I wanted to dress better and wanted help with my fashion but some of this stuff helped be be a better boyfriend and I’m doing so realize why my girlfriend is the one for me. Definitely a helpful channel. Courtney is for sure the example of the type of woman that men should look for.
@@davesteadman1226 thats not necessarily true. If we go with the typical woman who wants a tall rich man with a lot of charisma, most men want something different. Most men want a woman shorter than them and could careless how much money she makes.
For my birthday last year, I went to a museum with a friend, and the entire time we were there he had been hovering over me. If I took a step, he took a step. If I stop at a display, glance at it, and move on, he'd follow me like a lost puppy. He was really close to me, practically attached to my back. It was VERY creepy! I told him he was free to look at what he wanted to look at and he didn't have to follow me everywhere, but he refused, saying that it was all about me and what I wanted that day. That made me feel worse. We've been friends for years. He has admitted to having romantic feelings for me and I've had to tell him that I am not interested in anything beyond friendship. If he thought I would find it sweet or cute by sticking to me as though he were glued to me, it backfired completely. The hovering made me so uncomfortable that I no longer want him in my space at all. That was all it took to damage a friendship I've had with a guy for years. Do NOT hover!
What I've been finding especially this holiday season, is I just stick to my schedule. The more you make yourself busy and respond to her texts and messages at your pace and at your time the more I find women are into me. I've been called creepy a few times and it really hurts. But at the same time if you know what you did wasn't, move on, keep your head up, and keep improving yourself. Now I have women asking me where are you what are you doing can I come over sometimes I find it "creepy" Thank you Courtney for another great video. 🙏🏾
You’re right. Far too many women think too much of themselves and label any guy who they don’t want to come onto them or even look at them as creepy. I’ve had to deal with this my whole life.
@@craigmunday3707Any woman who uses the words “creep” or “creepy” is simply worthless as a partner. Those two words should send every man walking away from her.
The major difference between appearing creepy and romantic is if she’s attracted to you. You can literally say the exact same thing to different women. If one woman finds you attractive it’s romantic or cute. If she doesn’t, creep alert. So guys are basically sticking their necks out each time and facing rejection or being called a creep with really no idea how she’s going to respond. But you can mitigate a creepy factor by having a great energy to it. And if she’s not interested, let go.
I used to think I was creepy before I watched this video. I really did not think people would go to great lengths just to be liked and have a relationship. I do not think I know the bad habits many act on. Thank you for opening my eyes.
The 2nd point is so true. If she’s uninterested or if she rejects you, just move on! Read her body language or the words she says to you. Don’t chase her, it makes you look weird, obsessed and desperate.
It's for your own benefit, too. You get an emotional sunk cost analysis going on in your head. This is also why you shouldn't sit on your hands for too long before you approach her. The more time you focus on her, the bigger the letdown if she's not into you, and the bigger the chance that you ignored someone else who'd be into you.
Yep, unfortunately a lot of men in the comments are acting like how they always complain about women act. Weird and entitled, you're not going to get her by chasing her down. You'll actually do better if you're nice, polite, and unbothered when you get rejected. I've heard horror stories of dudes being rejected and flipping out (and I've lived horror stories of rejecting women and them spazzing) and just by being normal you give yourself such a heads up.
Oh and the "she says she's not interested" bit is also a bit tricky because they will say "I want to play hard to get to see if he's really into me" and other games. And then they complain that men are cowards because we take "no" at face value.
That happened to me with a girl at my job and afterwards I kept it strictly work between me and her, and she just lost it but I wasn’t trying to get a SA case cause that’s what will and can happen to anyone
I have such a hard time being around men when they are saying inappropriate things. It is an automatic complete turn off does not matter at all what he looks like. I have met men who are absolutely gorgeous looking and after a few very demeaning instances I completely had an extreme aversion to being in the same area as him. This has happened a lot to me.
Rich dorky doctors get laid and marry hot girls al the time! Now finding a non materialistic genuine woman is a little more work if you are unattractive.
Good points...unfortunately way to many guts have been taught that that's what they're supposed to do. Women have aggregated this by encouraging this behavior by their " playing hard to get" games and attention seeking behaviors
Powerful video Courtney thank you. I put this woman on a pedestal briefly and the next day I saw she did not respond to my morning text. So I didn’t text her for two days and she didn’t text me for two days. It was the best move I could’ve made. I sent her one text message in the afternoon two days later and just called out the shift that happened in our last conversation two days ago. And said I didn’t think this was working out. She agreed, and we parted ways amicably. It’s crazy how easy it is to be off putting. But I wasn’t in the creepy department and it’s because I have been watching these videos and learning so much. It was painful but I felt really good about how I handled it.
Makes sense. Number 1 is true and all but just as she pointed out often it's hard to know. My rule if she says she can't go out for whatever reason like "oh I'm sorry I'm busy" I don't try again unless she suggests another time herself.
I remember one time I asked a girl for her number and she was like "oh I don't have my phone" and I was thinking "you don't need your phone to give me your number" but I knew she was turning me down nicely so I just said "okay, maybe next time you'll have it on you" and laughed as a way to let her know I obviously knew what she was doing.
There are a lot of women who are submissive though and they want the guy to reach out to them and to try and reschedule. I've given up on women thinking that way before, I would wait until a woman flat out doesnt respond to you. Women are always on their phones, if she doesnt respond to you, I guarantee you she didnt suddenly become a monk and she is no longer interested.
I'm 5 foot 5/ 135 pounds and make a average salary. I used to get laid in my teens and early 20s because I did a bunch of drugs, sold a bunch of drugs, went to bars/parties, and had a rebellious attitude. Ever since I stopped going out much and keeping to myself, occupied with hobbies and such. Crazy women love a reckless guy, and now that I'm less reckless, I'm just kinda a abnormal fellow lol. I get it, I don't look hideous, there's a video of me on my channel. It's 5 years old so I'm ten pounds bigger but I was 125 pounds then lol. I give up, too much work, not enough reward.
ANOTHER CREEPY THING is... "Do you live alone?" ....I hate that question. And it's almost exclusively men who ask me this, and it's always men that I barely know. Like why the heck would you need to know if I live alone?? Are you planning to rob me or rape me?? Which one?? ....I know in their mind it's just to figure out if we'd have privacy if we were to start dating, but like GET TO KNOW ME AS A PERSON first, or go on a A FEW DATES WITH ME FIRST before you ask me that question, or BETTER YET don't ask me that question at all and just find out the NATURAL way as you get to know me.
I’ve gotten that question from women too but I never ask them because its inappropriate. If you’re friends and want to be open to each other’s living situation, you’re interested in their day to day life, then it might be sweet. But don’t ever bring it up with a stranger or someone you barely know because its none of their business and its creepy behaviour. Good post here on social interaction and the line about when to disclose things.
No woman would like it at all if we called her a crazy person, or worse, simply because we were not attracted to her. If we simply didn't have the spine to tell her we are not interested in her exclusively. Or, like all women seem to do, didn't give a clear answer one way or the other JUST IN CASE we changed our mind some time down the road. Apparently what is good enough for them isn't good enough for other people though. They can dish it out all day, nonchalantly calling guys creepy, potentially destroying someone, but they don't like it when it comes back around.
As someone who has a tendency to use a quick, light hand on the upper back/shoulder as I walk past someone in a crowded bar/venue, no one’s getting uncomfortable from that are they? Girl or guy, thats how i try to lightly indicate Im trying to pass behind someone
100%, women should go up to men with their engagement rings and the receipt for it and see if the guy says yes or would buy it down the road. As an average attractiveness guy, I hate having to put in effort, get rejected, get called creepy by a woman who just got her back blown out the other night by a gigachad who put in zero effort.
I've heard young women say this from 18 to 30ish...label men as creepy just because the men showed attraction to them, but weren't attractive to the recipient.
Hey Courtney! Can you do a poll of how common men who actually approach women receive really harsh rejections? I find in my experience that most of the women who have rejected me have done so gently and subtly, even in cold approach. However, I'm not a handsome man by any means but I'm also not a sub-5, so I'm wondering for those who are considered truly ugly (and not just feeling bad over insecurity) how often do over-reactions happen when you do approach a woman to say hi cuz that experience could be a lot different than the kind of rejections I would usually get.
Most of my in person rejections have been: * Pre-emptive: I've literally had women tell me they have boyfriends or they're not interested without me showing an ounce of interest. Some I would have flirted with, some I would not. * The subtle threat: "I have a boyfriend" is not necessarily a threat, but it absolutely can be. But "My boyfriend over there" or similar are pretty much exclusively threats. I don't get how there IS another interpretation, when a "no, thank you" or even the aforementioned "I have a boyfriend" do the same job without the direct implication. * Mockery: I've had women I talked to just make fun of me. Even I'm not witless enough to think this isn't a rejection. I once started chatting to a guy at the bar, he was obviously talking down to me (just a snooty prick) but I always try to be friendly, girl walks over and starts making fun of me and telling the guy to just leave. I'd wished her a merry Christmas earlier in the evening, which was apparently enough to justify continuing rudeness. Think this was more a class issue, but my working class accent does not mean I'm dumb... (I've always been scholarly, top 3% through school) * The "I love you as a friend." Totally acceptable. Some are still my friends, some are not. (note: this is similar to the preemptive, bc I have yet to ever "shoot my shot" with a female friend. I tend to like them too much as people to risk undermining the friendship) * The deflection: "I'm not ready to date right now" (probably the "gentle let down") * The "we're not dating, we're just meeting each other in a public place to spend time together and see where it goes" (dating without dating. Most frustrating of all imo) * Ghosting. This one is I think very common. Best rejection I ever had was being given a hug, told they felt flattered but they were taken. Was very sweet and genuinely left me feeling better for having asked. Basically, I get rudely rejected when I ask more often than not. But if I just talk to them without any implication of interest, I'm more likely to be treated positively. Especially at work women consistently compliment my attitude (especially younger women. I think they find my formality and guidance reassuring) Even more funny is that "wives and girlfriends" warm to me immediately. I'm quirky and friendly. But even women I'm close to will make disgusted noises if even a joke is made about romantic compatibility with me (everyone knows I have a thick skin, and I'd NEVER betray that this is the one area I'm actually sensitive, bc they really don't mean anything nasty by it. I'm sure they'd hate it if they know I was upset)
@Dm Gray gonna be honest dude that sounds like most of the rejections I've been through. Preemptive rejection happened on middle school and some college. The subtle "my boyfriend is over there" idk enough context if I can count that as a threat cuz I would interpret it as she's just telling me her boyfriend is nearby. I definitely experienced that but never took it as a threat tho I just leave once i hear that which is the right response anyways. I have been in situations where I have talked to girls and then their bfs show up to talk to me. What I do here is be friendly with the bf and either excuse myself or let them leave either way I pretty much leave the interaction on a positive note. I never experienced mockery thought but yea some ppl are dicks like that, but it sounds like you and I share most of these experiences in rejection. I was more or so talking about harsh responses in contexts where you do approach a woman and make your interest clears and she responds with more venom than just "no" or even the subtle examples you've pointed out.
@@GregXHunterz I suppose it depends on your perspective. To me, open mockery is pretty toxic. Disgusted faces and abrupt dismissals are also fairly common. I don't necessarily even think it's conscious or intentional. I can absolutely sympathise with a woman just not wanting to be bothered. It's just the flip side is if nobody EVER bothers them, how are they gonna date? Because not many women are take the initiative :P The "my bf is near" can ONLY be a threat in my understanding. Might be informed by the number of times I was assaulted in school by arseholes for DARING to be friendly to a girl (and I knew some sweet girls that dated some *genuinely* awful guys) What else COULD it mean? I didn't ask directions :P It's not EGREGIOUS and I understand it (especially if a girl is fed up of being hit on, knowing that the guys that approach the most are likely also the least socially aware) but it is what it is.
@@DmGray People are rude as hell. Pre-emptive: One time one said to me "Don't even think about it I have a boyfriend". All because I looked at her. I told her to F off. So she calls her boyfriend and he shows up and start asking me questions and I tell him his girl is rude as hell and he's like "I don't care". So I ask him if want some sht and he says NO.
In my experience the only rude ones are like if I'm trying to get somewhere and I need their attention so they can move out of my way and they go "uuuh I have a boyfriend" and if you think about it it makes sense. Someone who is clueless enough to think I'm approaching would also lack the social grace to be polite if that were the case.
A man who is touching her when he first meets her. I've had a man touch my hair and started playing with it. He complimented I had pretty hair but still don't touch me. I don't even know you. He stares at you without blinking while he's talking to you. Yes, getting a ton of messages is creepy.
A girl I had a crush on told me I was creepy for not touching her, and another one for not enough eye contact. The weirdest one was when I didn’t flirt back to a girl that I had no idea that she was flirting with me I guess every one is very different.🤣
@@cesarmarquez8670 Dude a lot of them make sht up as they go, have mood swings, etc. I've found early on that the best thing to do is not play games just ask them if they have a boyfriend or not and go from there. No matter what you do some girl is going to call you creepy because a lot of them are immature. Stand up for yourself and Just tell them to shut up for insulting you.
@@SystematicMechanic Shit finally a real G. I do the same, i ask them if they're taken or not and if they say they're taken then I walk away, but the girls are so creepy and weird its unreal. they keep stare at me for extended period of times like crazy girls
I have a bit of a rule i follow If there is a no or anything resembling a no, then you stop what you're doing. Doesn't matter if it's part of the game or what. It doesn't matter if it's for the fun of it or if it's for the sake of attention. It is not worth the level of disrespect for your time nor the risk you have if, god forbid, you misinterpret the game. It just isn't worth the time and grief to play
Interesting concept: creepy is specially about uncertainty - a potential misalignment between behavior and intentions. A scary person isn’t creepy (it’s just scary) and a harmless person isn’t creepy (just harmless), but creepy is when it isn’t clear which is which, and the uncertainty of that seems to triggers something deep and ignite a fear response in women. Which sucks for guys who can set that off, but is probably an evolved and useful response for keeping them safe.
I see. Then Moon Dong-eun wasn't creepy. She was just interacting with her enemies, ready to become even more deadly and sinister to her former bullies. A truly evolved response to keep Dong-eun safe. To clarify, it's from what I gleaned on what you wrote and used a fictionalized character to determine if she was creepy or not.
For the most part I agree. But the hand on the back thing... I do that when I'm moving through a crowded bar with both men and women. It's not about trying to touch you. It's a crowded and loud bar. I'm scooting past you and I want you to know I'm there and you will most likely scoot forward a step and give me room to get by.
One thing to consider is that Courtney is an introvert giving an introvert's perspective. If you're dealing with a woman who's more extroverted, she might be more open to some of the things--like establishing light physical contact early on, or flirty/sexy jokes--that Courtney feels are a hard "no" in the early stages. Both perspectives are valid of course. This is why men really need to work on their ability to read body language and understand word selection and voice tone, so you can pick up quickly on what's working and what isn't and adjust appropriately. Because if you treat the extrovert like you're dealing with Courtney, she'll think, "Oh I guess he's not interested," and if you treat the introvert like the extrovert she'll think, "Ugh he's so pushy"
When someone puts their hand on your back when they pass, often it’s to let you know they’re behind you so you don’t inadvertently back/bump into them. It’s a service industry thing. I was 3-4 weeks in when I finally figured it out.
Things have changed significantly since I was dating in the 1970's. Women didn't describe a guy as 'creepy'. If she didn't want to go out with you she said, 'No thanks,' and that was the end of it. Things have gone way too far away from reason.
Hello, Schlotterer, I agee 100 %with you . The sad part is, it is being "exported" all over the world. I am gla', really, that I' m old!
Back then they had to stay quiet about inappropriate behavior. Had to know their place. Barely had rights. Good thing you're not long for this world.
@@johnh3611 , I never took advantage of a woman because Mom taught me. "No" means, "No."
Maybe since Trump won the go back to just saying no thanks and that'll be the end of it instead of all this drama and just making a scene and accusing you of being a human trafficker
@@johnh3611 , That's not what I meant. What I was trying to express was that if I asked a woman out and she said, "No, thank you," I left her alone and didn't didn't pursue it any further. Mom taught me that "No" means, "No, go away" and I did just that. I wouldn't have expected her to refer to me as "creepy," just "not the right guy for her." I'm sorry I wasn't clearer. I agree with you that there are creepy men out there and now women are more empowered to call them out, as it should be.
I protect my mental health by not approaching women.
😂
A very, very wise man!
As and extension of that, you can also be just not interested in women at all. Then not approaching just becomes what you do automatically. But you actually have to be not interested. You can't fake it -- because it's YOU who will know the truth. Don't lie to yourself.
@@RobinJohnstonphotography Bro, approach American or Canadian women. They’ll jump on you like a tigress. I’m not joking. Try it.
@@LordGreystoke-h5tBS. Canadian women from Alberta are the most rude. I am NOT interested in looking at them.
In case you're in a hurry:
1. She thinks you're unattractive (doesn't mean you aren't attractive to someone else)
2. She's uninterested and you continue to chase her
3. Obsessive behavior (like blowing up her DM's)
4. Inappropriate comments / sexual harassment
Edit: good god there are so many incels in the comments. You want to know why nobody wants to either date or be anywhere near you people? It's because you treat women like a commodity you think you're entitled to that should bend to your will. You’re the reason people choose the bear, so if you want a partner, be someone that a woman would willingly choose over the bear.
goat 🐐
Thanks!
Regarding blowing up her DMs.. Serious advice to every guy out there.. Don't text/message women other than to meet up for a date or to hang out. Don't try to rationalize why you should date, what your feelings are etc. Only if you are having sex with a woman do you open up and text/message more otherwise you should be radio silent.
@Zachary Cole Women love things they don’t like. They might complain about the guy that never texts back I bet that’s the guy she is sleeping with though, I bet when he does hit her up she’s getting nailed by him the same day. I know it’s weird to us men, we can’t wrap our heads around it. But if you want to think like a woman you must get rid of all logic.
To the point of a woman thinking a guy is creepy if she isn't attracted to him, the irony is that most women will get upset when men say there's no point in interacting with them without a physical component. The reason this is true is because without it, they're judged the same way we would judge another guy which is to say, she needs to be interesting or useful. Even in relationships, most men only kind of finding his woman interesting because men and women are different and tend to have interests based largely on their sex. If the physical component was removed, the vast majority of those relationships would end instantly. As far as usefulness goes, again because of interests that stem from a person's sex, most of the services that men hire out, tend to be filled by men.
Explain this to a woman and watch her lose her mind.
"4 Things That Make Men Seem Creepy To Women"
1: not being chad
2: not being tall
3: not having money
4: speaking, looking, thinking in her direction while not being #1-3
Bingo
Absof***inglutely!!👏🏻
Awww...tell me where the girls touched you to cause this emotional damage....
Sissies crying about having g zero skills
That pretty much sums it up.
BOOOM! There it is!!!!!
I had a woman who kept using me for a dopamine release. Every month or so she kept using me for conversation and then would ghost me. Id ask her to link up to hang out and she wouldn’t answer me. Then I’d leave her alone and she’d pop up again and again just to say hey. So I now ignore her cuz that’s toxic and immature of her to do. I realized some women do this because they get a kick out of attention and want their ego stroked. Be careful of these attention demons.
If you don't get a date from her in a few days to a week? Move on.......too many of them pull that crap now a days and too many Men are naive and got given unrealistic advice about Women and dating growing up or were raised by their mom or most of or all of the adult authority in their childhood were Women or the Men in their loves growing up were henpecked.
@@elijahwilson1422 the problem is they take for granted of the options they get while they r young and pretty. They take advantage of the market and play these games until their time is up. That’s when they come back around and say they “are done playing games” and r ready to be serious. That’s when u give them the rug pull and leave them to their misery. I now know to never play their game. Like u said if they aren’t cooperative off rip move on.
This nothing new, That the reason this song came about… music.th-cam.com/video/XC9Y6bGQfT8/w-d-xo.html&feature=share
Keep well away from her.poison she is
@@elijahwilson1422 I usually give them a month to meet in person. Depending on the level of communication though. If you are hitting it off with someone and having a conversation every day then there is no reason why it should take forever to actually meet. Contrarily, if there is no communication really and they don't make an effort to get to know you then two weeks and move on. I personally don't meet girls that I don't at least talk to on the phone once or twice just to feel them out. You never know who you are talking to online.
I live in a town where women seldom dress up. I saw a woman in a store that was very nicely dressed up. So I said, "Excuse me but I just wanted to tell you I think you look amazing." That was it. I wasn't hitting on her. I didn't ask for a phone number of even try to make small talk. My intent was only to give a compliment where I thought it was due. She called me creepy. So... I just don't give out compliments anymore. It is not worth the time or effort to be nice to people.
Had me in the first half. But yeah complimenting women is a waste of time.
Amen! I just see a hot chick, give her the old visual once over, silently fantasize for a moment and that’s it. Outside of common politeness…please, thank you, excuse me, they don’t exist. They did this to themselves. It started in the 1960’s with feminism and it’s gotten completely out of control.
@johnsampson6387 Some women do appreciate a compliment. Courtney's advice and objectivity is sound and something well worth digesting.
Bingo buddy. Save your time and money . Stay clear. Also I don't even look at women because they always got their bitch face on anyway. Don't have time to look at that ugliness and negativity. The only thing like and love, well it's green, and it's called money , that is all I have time for.
That wright I gave a complement to a coworker and she jumped down my neck lol it was just a compliment nothing more .she says we are collge.our relationship is strickly professional .
There are a lot of creepy women out there as well. 1) Stalking 2) Clinging 3) Feel like you have a relationship with her friends and her, or in-laws and her, or both 4) She needs a sugar daddy or has daddy issues 5) She tests you too much at the wrong time: 'stands in front of the TV during a big game' and wants to distract you 6) She is constantly insecure 7) Women who constantly try to change men or make men feel they are the problem.
I once had a friend of a female friend that was screen shooting my fb pictures and posting them on her own page.
When they say creepy it's them projecting themselves.
If you’re not attractive you’ll never experience this as a guy. I know I never had.
Definitely,...i think this vid is advice for decent guys that may make some errors and come off "creepy" but not necessarily a creep outright,..those types need some therapy and serious self reflection and a different issue completely. This is just some common guidelines really,
@@brianwaller7383 then work on your attraction or deal with it
Don't call me creepy. Just call me ugly.
Also, if you are good looking, you will be creepy to every girl who isn’t your partner (especially if you rejected them).
that is how I am feeling
Your not ugly, your rugged.
@@jamesrizza2640 Thanks, but I am afraid I can't pass for rugged. 😅
@@1chumley1 Then fake it til you make it. Being funny has it's advantages as well.
I'm 61, so I've probably been there, done that. The worst rejection is being told 'you creep me out'. I was so shy in school I couldn't even talk to a girl if attracted to her. Patience is a must in today's world. I did ask a lady once if she needed a hug. It was meant to console and not meant in a sexual desire. That hug was the beginning of a 16 year relationship. I like the advice I hear, here. 👍🏻👍🏻🙏🏻🤗
There is a BIG difference between asking "Do you need a hug" as you did, and "Where's my hug?" as Courtney put it. The latter is an entitled demand. 58 in a couple weeks, nice to know I'm not the only old fart here. and I've learned so much from Courtney; only wish all her info was around when I was in High School.
@@kevinc1593 I am 58 too. I have hugged musicians, politicians, porn stars, Stormy Daniels. LOL!
If the hug started a relationship it was definitely sexual disguised as consoling. Just sayin..
@@4040smokey SSHHHHH
John, you seem somewhat simpy. Creepy vs. Simpy.
A girl who thinks you’re attractive will literally excuse any bad behaviour. A girl who thinks you’re unattractive will just label you a creep regardless of any good behaviour. That’s all there is to it.
How true is that !
My friend once said, "if Christian Gray looked like a short and fat guy, that movie turns into a horror film. "
Seriously, we've become so overly freaking sensitive these days. Whats just as bad are those who constantlyneed an ego boost. 2022 was horrible, we need to do better in 2023.
If she isn't interested, just bail! If she says she has a bf, BAIL! If she isn't responding to your texts, FREAKING BAIL!!
Start small, go out once or twice a week, meet them in real time! NO MORE PEN PALS, TEXT BUDDIES, DATING APPS, ETC.
Amen Tommy!
no if she doesn't have a boyfriend it's you vs 10 other "options" .... but if she does have a bf it's 1v1 kinda narrows down the scope and helps define your odds a little better lol
@@CourtneyRyan Excellent video, Miss Courtney. I will disagree on one point, the light touch in the small of the back as we're passing behind someone in close quarters.
I do this with both women and men, usually saying something like, "I'm going to squeeze past you."
IMO, it's not creepy, where brushing past groin-to-buttocks is. (Or buttocks-to-buttocks.)
It SHOULD be obvious if a man is just passing, versus wanting to act like a dog wanting to "rub" your leg.
Personally, other than shaking hands, the only touch I will initiate is like a touch on the shoulder or arm to get the attention of a waitress in a loud environment.
However, I have accidentally gotten a handful of, um, breast. Out of the corner of my eye, I thought the young lady setting next to me was falling, and just reacted by putting a hand out to try to break her fall.
I had an apology to make, and she was graceful about it. She had just suddenly bent over to get something out of her purse that was shoved back between our chairs.
So sometimes, the man may not be doing it to be "creepy," it's to avoid a more uncomfortable action.
You say "bail" Yet sometimes the people who don't bail.. who don't burn that bridge. End up marrying that person. Because Life is insanely complicated. Love is not a game. Stop treating it like one. Use good judgment and live your life and try and find Love and get to know people. Maybe the women was being completely ignorant about the guy and since he kept trying eventually it worked out. Nothing wrong with that on the guys end. And nothing is wrong with dating apps either. Meeting people in real life is so difficult because again... it's all just a game now. As a Man you can't even approach women these days. You can't just talk and get to know eachother and go out on dates. You need to have charm and do everything perfectly...
@Jordan Hansen OP is right, don't waste your time.
Good luck chasing a woman down who already told you she isn't interested for months and months. I'm sure you won't end up resenting her for your inability to accept what you don't want to.
Women get terrible dating advice generally but one good piece is "if he wants you, he'll make time for you" and the same is true for men. If a woman blows you off or tells you she's not interested, then fine. Walk away, you're more likely to get her that way anyway.
Spending 80% of their lives hiding behind face paint, pretending to be someone else....thats kinda creepy
1. Be ugly
2. Be short
3. Be poor
😅😅😅 sadly this is sometimes the case. As I mentioned, I think we’ve really watered this down.
Well good thing I'm above average in everything except for my height, but if you think being short is going to prevent you from getting girls, then it sounds like your mental fortitude is your biggest weakness and you need to fix it. I'm below average in height yet I'm balancing 4 women right now. Grow up and level up smh
I'm all three(maybe not poor, I'm well off but not rich just average) and women don't find me creepy for some reason
Being fabulously wealthy will cancel out 1 & 2.
@Gerardo A i’m a musician, i’’m educated, i’m confident, i’ve been learning a form of Kung Fu for nigh on three years, i’m 6’0” tall yet women won’t look twice at me. I smiled at a lovely lady not so long back and she looked at me like i’d just besmirched both graves of her grandparents
One of MY personal favorites is when I used to work at a retailer, I'd greet a customer (Hello, how are you? or Hi, need help with anything?), and the immediate response would be an abrupt "Sorry, I have a boyfriend!!!" 🤦♂
You just walked into a place of business and declared your attachment to someone else SIMPLY because an employee did their job and greeted you or offered assistance? Makes perfect sense, skippy!
Sounds like a fun gag would be to get a ring, put it on wedding ring picture, then hold up your hand, brandishing the ring. You don't even have to say you're married. She will just assume with ring, ha ha, right?
Did you have a uniform on? Or was the dress code at your work causal to where someone might mistake you for a customer? Maybe those women didn't realize you were an employee?
@@carnationsensation Full uniform with the company name on the front and back of the shirt, on the front of the utility apron, plus on my nametag.
My only thought is maybe she's frequently hit on by guys in aprons? 🥴
@@carnationsensation That's a pathetic response !
@@superchuck3259 I'll bet you if he does that, he's the one who gets hit on for real!
Courtney does have a number of videos that talk about how so many women just "can't find a good man these days" or otherwise seem to just have trouble in dating relationships.
The kind of woman that Courtney describes in point #1 absolutely deserves any difficulty she might encounter in the dating game. Guys, any woman who calls your normal (non-creepy) behavior "creepy" to boost her ego is T-O-X-I-C and immature. Do a 180°.....fast.
You're absolutely right, once a woman tells me that she isn't interested, I don't waste my time with the stuck up witch and hope that a house falls on her
I know, the problem is there’s not enough Billionaires to go around.
It's cause most of em are looking for 6ft 'Chad'....no matter HOW fucking stupid he is..........lmao............. Z
@John Sampson I kinda had a somewhat similar experience at school last week when I was doing nothing and eating breakfast, and a when a bunch of women sat down at the table, one of them mocked me for no reason after another one of them said “I hate men” despite the fact that I was minding my own business, and didn’t do nothing. It’s not exactly being called a creep, just as few woman being assholes and messing with people who are minding their own business instead of just leaving me the hell alone. I never said a word to any of those strangers, yet if course when a bunch of women sat near me, the only dude around, I have to be the one to get messed with or hear some sort of sexist comment.
Yeah, it’s not always a matter of misunderstanding, some people just want to be assholes to people that they find as different from them, even if the difference is just your sex.
@John Sampson if what you're saying is true, that attitude says much more about them than you.
Women think they are gangsters these days.
They are as hollow hearted, and talentless as a mannequin.
Everyone thinks they are gangsters these days.
They probably are !!👽
You mean the workout clothes wearing freaks with the mermaid hair, tattoos and nose piercings?😬
Maybe they watched "Spring Breakers" too often...
The reason the signals are confusing is because I've had girl co-workers tell me about their dating experience and sometimes they say, "So and so didn't try hard enough" or he gave up too easy. So we don't know if she is saying no or testing us to see if we give up too easy because if we give up too easy, then men come off weak. So the conundrum is, if you approach aggressively, then you come off creepy and if you give up too easy then you didn't try hard enough. What I find crazy is even average looking women in CA play this game; that is, they want to be aggressively approached by men because it gives them an ego-boost and attention. So they will make you chase after them and then say no, just to crush you because it makes them feel better, that they are wanted. I'd say 8/10 women in CA are like this. These are the women who never find a date and end up holding out into their 30s for the perfect man.. lol.
I guess we will just have to go extinct then
Move
Such a stupid game they play that needlessly tires you out. Refuse to be a part of it.
try harder these days could mean Finding yourself in Court/Jail too so its probably best to take at face value & move on, if you can be bothered to even pursue at all these days
Eh if they are in their 30s you don’t want them anyway
How to not be creepy.
Step 1: Be attractive.
Step 2: Don't be unattractive.
creepiness overall would be the impression that she would have reasons to believe you're bad in bed or would be a bad father. that has to do with your net worth and your ability to basically sound "normal" and the 3rd being "knowing your expectations" because if you were good in bed you would already know what kind of girl you can pull in the first place. If something seems a bit "off" in that department you're creepy and probably should work on women who have lower self esteem who feel they deserve to be with someone as creepy as you. It's all a mind game lol.
Can you imagine how creepy the book 50 shades of gray would be to women if the character was poor and ugly lmfao it'd be some black snake moan, silence of the lambs type shit
@@Metaphix Exactly. Be attractive and very rich, and what 95% of men would be called creepy for suddenly is sexy. xD
@Mr. NoName Lady's of the night will take care of you.
@TheLarry Sounds like you've seen the Peyton Manning SNL office skit.
I totally get the hug thing. I had a friend who believed that hugs were for women and handshakes for guys. He was always hugging attractive girls at work. And you could see them cringe everytime.
Some woman are also into the 'business hug' or air kiss. I hate both in a business or professional situation. It's handshakes for all. Nothing more, nothing less, nothing else. For most women, I don't want you near my body, I don't want to be near your body!!
Modern women are truly leftovers. There is no point trying to understand these stupids. Dump and find traditional women in other coumtries in the only solution.
I'm a dude when I hear other guys do the "where's my hug at?" I physically cringe
He was not a chad 😆
Chad spiecies can get away with everything.
@@rj9617 They would love creepe joe with that power .😆
If a woman calls you “creepy,” consider it a favor, as she has just told you not to waste your time on her.
Guess if I’m not interested in a woman and she attempts to communicate with me …..she’s what a douchebag? What label or name would be ok?
I have been through this a lot. In middle and high school girls called me creepy out of the blue all the time, and it was so annoying because I never did or said anything creepy. Yeah, I wasn’t the best looking, I was 5’5 and overweight (reached 191 pounds when I graduated, but lost 14 after that), but I tell you, a lot of people will associate anything out of the blue with creepiness when they don’t find you attractive.
If they say that you are creepy out of the blue then they most likely are building their ego or maybe they even want your attention and don't find you creepy at all. Many good looking men are victims of such women.
Yup
They were just trying to boost their own worthless self esteem and ego.
Added advice:
#1 reading the room and self-awareness. If you failed to read the room you can come off as creepy or weird
#2 Having desperate vibes will come off as creepy if she isn’t into you
#3 At parties, don’t approach from behind. Approach from the front and don’t immediately touch and have a good attitude.
Point #3 is a great one. Never approach girls from behind. Always approach a girl from the front when you want to talk to her.
@@nickp3949 Exactly and that way you can feel the vibe if she likes you or not. It’s just weird approach a girl from behind and she can’t even see you
If women are equal as men why can’t they just speak up
@onesoloving1 wisdom of the week, appreciated 🙏
In general, it amazes me how inept people are in general at reading the room for various things.
I personally think women with loads of tattoos and pop rivets in their nose are creepy.
Same too
Its not creepy, its just a mark of low intellect and poor breeding. Add gum chomping to it, and you've got the trailer trash perfect storm.
@@prussiansocietyofamerica And with Tattoos... think of how easily they let this man see them naked in many cases. This tattoo artist probably has more of a relationship with her and has seen more than her actual bf that she expects to chase her for the same right. Yeah im assuming a lot here, like she has a bf and stuff.. jk ... i mean im assuming the tattoo artist is a man, which tbh it probably is in most cases.
Why even waste the time with her at all? There's much better than this lunatic who lets some in for free if she wants a quickie or personal marks, but then expects to be lavished with dedication and hard work. Nope, Hard PASS.
Pop rivets! I'm stealing that one! 😅
You have just described my dream woman, I do love punky chicks with piercings and tattoos, they are so sexy 🍺🍻😜
I'm autistic, and so I don't deal with ambiguity very well. So, I've adopted a pretty simple approach. If I make a request, and the answer isn't yes, the answer is no. This would be a good policy to follow for any man pursuing a romantic relationship with a woman. If you ask her out, anything other than an explicit yes means no. Just walk away. Either she actually meant no, or she's a crazy person. Either way, you are better off pursuing a relationship with someone else. What if she says no and really what you to chase her? In that case, don't walk away. Run. Because she's special and not in a good way. If a woman can't communicate her thoughts clearly, she not ready for dating. She's not even ready to be an adult.
One other thing that should be added to the creepy list is catcalls. And this goes for both men and women. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a woman walking up to a man and asking him for a date. But when I was younger, and only moderately attractive, I had two different women yelling from their cars at me. They both had some complementary things to say about my rear end. And one of them offered me sex. Not the kind of gal I would want to take home to meet my parents. Yeah, women can be creepy as well. My advice for women who want to make the first move is to be clear and to the point about what you want. But don't be vulgar about. Ask for a date, but don't ask for anything else until after you get to know the man a little. For goodness' sake, buy the man a drink and have a conversation with him before you try to jump his bones.
@TerryProthero Thank you for sharing. I hope that you are happy.
I am cursed with Aspergers/Autism also.
According to Title Nine, if you ask a Woman for a date, then that is Rape. If you make eye contact and then say "Hello" and you do not get permission first, then that is Rape. Modern Feminism is about being a dominatrix.
Feminism is a part of Satanism and Communism. Diversity Inclusion Equity=DIE.
The bit**** who yelled at you from a car were being sarcastic. Feminism is about hatred and cruelty.
In conclusion, you do you. You do what you got to do. Please may I recommend vitamins such as Magnesium and Fish Oil and throw away anti-depressants.
What if she says "yes" -- and means NO! ???
@@mtlicq Your question is stupid. Your question makes no sense.
@@JeffreyReeves-sh2bg LOL You're funny !
@@mtlicq Your question continues to be stupid.
Saying hi, I get called a creep. I quit trying make eye contact with any female when talking to them, I look in a general area past them. Being ugly makes me a creep. I am married and have zero interest in any female, yet I am creepy for even attempting to be friendly or just a half smile. Even my daughter's friends call me a creepy old man because I won't even look at or acknowledge them. It's quite confusing... I am a creeper for looking in a general direction of a female, saying hi, or not even look at them? I don't get it...
all interaction with women you arent related to is creepy
@@Sagefrakrobatik TIL basic human social interaction is creepy.
ban them for mixing her with her friends who dont respect you. They should be treated with cruelty
@D H no you ain’t, the truth is that al women are unhinged bipolar insecure psychotic head-the-balls
I suggest that you should treat everyone with courtesy like face them if they talk to you or just simply wave a hand or nod to them to at least acknowledge them. Simply gesture of acknowledgment that you see them should be enough. If they find that offensive or creepy then just pay no mind to them. Let them get upset on their own mind. I think over thinking about this situation will just tire you out. If they like then who cares. At least we treat them decently.
Wow! Married guy here who wandered onto this video because it looked like an interesting subject in my TH-cam feed. What genuinely great advice this woman gives. There's no ego in it at all and it's coming from a good place.
I also really enjoyed reading through the comments. Although people have had their struggles in the dating scene, it's so refreshing to hear honest accounts. Hey, we're all flawed and most of us are trying our best in life. What more could you do or want? As I've told other people in the past, I much prefer to be around good-hearted flawed human beings than "perfect" people.
Thank you so much for your kind comment! Glad you stumbled upon my channel 🥰
Wow, absolutely fantastic. So the creator of these videos ignores all the other comments, but replies and thumbs up the one that aligns with her biases. I guess everyone else is wrong and they should just quit life
I'm a woman. Just came across your channel. This is sooo refreshing!!
I think there are for sure a bunch of "creepy" WOMEN out there who are vindictive, mean and really mentally ill.
Men deserve BETTER. Alot of women have ... really terrible beliefs about men.
I had some too, when I was younger...thinking all that men want is sex, big boobs etc etc...
However, I got a job, where I am often the only woman, or maybe there is one or two other woman, and about a dozen or two or three dozen men are on the job.
Women... you all have some really really wrong impressions. I've come to not fear or be extremely suspicious of men - at all.
They are wonderful!! They have a much better sense of humor and they are WAY more in touch with their emotions than they are given credit.
I love and adore all these men. Respect.
Respect yourself and they will respect you.
Respect them, and they will respect you, and love you. ❤️
I started an internship last week and my tutor, a man a few years older than me, has been incredibly understanding and kind to me and another male intern, and I was really happy. All the other clerks there are women and maybe out of male solidarity, he's very patient and kind to us. Of course he's like that to the women too, it's just to say that he shows a very healthy kind of masculinity which I adore and isn't absolutely to be taken for granted
You should put on seminars for women.
"I think there are for sure a bunch of "creepy" WOMEN out there who are vindictive, mean and really mentally ill."
Exactly. But this society still has trouble exposing it.
Who, unfortunately, tend to get rewarded and or celebrated for their misbehavior.
Lol yeah im a woman who was the only lady also in a group of men at work
They actually did want to date me and some told each other they were in love while I was there to make money
Really disaapointing
So if that doesn't happen to you doesn't mean it doesnt happen to other women. Maybe your not that charismatic
Creepy is just a code word for ugly.
No it isn’t 😂
It’s 100% behavioral
@@justinheiple seems like you're blue-pilled. If an ugly guy and an attractive guy did the exact same thing to pick up women, the attractive man would get more success.
@@justinheiple
Cope harder PUA fanboy, creep in womanese is man who is not Chad.
@@masteryoda498 I’m not a “PUA fan boy”, I’m a grown ass man with real world experience. I was a bartender for 12 years. No, it is not true that most women think you’re creepy if you’re not “Chad”, if you had any real experience with them you’d know that. Get off the fucking internet and develop social skills.
For ugly and not rich
The first point was super valid. What a Chad can get away with won't fly for a majority of guys so don't try to copy some of the stuff they do.
Some of the best advice I ever got was to stay focused on whatever you're doing in the moment and be yourself. Also don't stare at women or elbow your way awkwardly into a social situation. I think those are two of the biggest mistakes the average guy makes.
Let them initiate conversation and always act like you've got better things to do.
The average U.S. woman is 5' 3", 175 lbs and no one finds that creepy?
exactly...
@@justverysavage Creepy?! Hell! Any living thing that can bleed for five days straight and STILL live?
Now THAT'S ku-ku-kuh-kuh reeeepy!
@@justverysavage : Where did you get those stats? Did women get shorter?
Your average woman is 5'4" and has been for decades. As for the weight, I am doubtful that is average. Anything over 140 would be fat as fuck on 5'3".
@@warrengauthier4699 Come to Mississippi. (Bring your own BBQ.😁)
@chesleyruff4755 : The biggest broad and I do mean b r o a d we ever saw was in Oregon state. We stopped in one of those highway rest stops, in rolled this Nissan pick up. In the back there was this "sprawled like Jabba the hut" thing. We had to look multiple times. Yup it was this woman that must have weighed around 500lbs and that is how they were transporting her: in the bed of a truck. 🤣
I'm college, there was this girl that always complained this guy wouldn't leave her alone. She would go out with him for a bit then be distant with him. One day, I was tired of her complaining about him, so I asked, "Have you ever told him to stop texting you and that you are not interested in him"? She sheepishly looked down and hesitantly said no. Me and my friend looked at her and said that's why he keeps going after you!
Dude, yes. Girls like this are just looking for attention from the guy she complains about and also from you as she complains about the other guy
Understand learning
i was familiar with the phrase "REJECTION BREEDS OBSESSION" but after listening to it i think "OBSESSION BREEDS REJECTION"
courtney you are a pure soul sharing the real content.
cheers.
Men are only viewed as creepy when she is not attracted to you. Thats all it is. If she is its not creepy. Not complicated
I do think this is true a lot of the time but it’s not always the case.
@@CourtneyRyan - It's the Dobler/Dahmer Rule
Girl dumps you, so you stand outside her window playing Peter Gabriel on a Boombox because that was the song playing the first time you had sex.
If she still likes you even though she rejected you -- you're Lloyd Dobler from "Say Anything..." and it will probably work out.
Do the exact same thing if she doesn't like you anymore -- you're Jeffrey Dahmer, and the local police will have a few questions to ask you.
@@CourtneyRyan I agree with you. I am trying to be the best version of myself! Dress well. Physical fitness. Confidence. Bank 🏦
A hot, six foot, billionaire could do creepy things that overcome the rest. Stop pouting.
@@Apeiron242 We're not talking about extremes,like pulling out a knife ,we're talking about a gesture's ''creepiness''factor being determined by the guy's looks
Is she attracted to you?Then touching is normal and welcome
Is she not attracted to you? i.e. You are ugly.Then touching becomes inappropriate and ''creepy''
Same action,different appearance,get it?. Stop pouting
On the flip side for the 2nd point, there are women who think men like the chase when we actually hate it and we want to know women like us or naw. I ain’t wasting my time with you, Becky!
Yup, and those women love to give mixed signals. It really sucks when you can tell a woman you are on par with is just indifferent with you and could go either way. This is honestly why half of women are going to end up single and childless by 30. It is also why guys have to pursue multiple women at once because of the games women play.
@brent4073 idk about Childless. There are women that are having babies with low lives that aren't worth a damn. Also, there are younger women now in days talking about how they would like to get pregnant by a random, good-looking guy and just be content with being a single mother.
i'm with you on that. i have always hated the chase and never understood why some guys liked it. i prefer, i put in the work to improve myself. that punches my ticket so date me without playing cat & mouse. otherwise f off.
@@prussiansocietyofamerica females are such vulgar, defective creatures, as if i needed another justifiable reason to hate god.
I’ve always been self aware of giving girls their boundaries. I always keep my distance and once it seems the conversation is going nowhere, I just give a friendly goodbye. I then wait to see if she wants to continue the conversation, if not then that’s it.
I think not overstating your welcome is a great move, and if you think you had a good time you can write down your number and give it to her in case they want to contact you. If you really made an impression, she'll text you. But even if she doesn't text you, you're still doing something not everyone has the guts to do, which shows confidence and is a great reward by itself :)
@@tavrincallas3218 yes, it also helps not to be desperate.
Of course. If she doesn't put in an effort, she's not interested. Move on. Find happiness. Be happy. That's life.
It’s hypocritical because for a girl to get into our space people would not consider it creepy
I like what you said about women thinking men are creepy.
Ive had my adult Daughters tell me stories about legitimately creepy guys messing with them and Ive even had to put a couple of them in their place.
But they’ve also told me about creepy guys hitting on them or asking them out then calling them creepy.
I would ask questions like “Was he polite?”
“Was he respectful?”
“Did you have a wedding ring on?”
“Were you dressed seductively?”
Depending on the criteria is what determined if the guy was actually being creepy or not.
Many times I told my girls “You can’t blame a guy for trying.”
I said “Your Mom and I never would have met if I didn’t muster the gumption to sit next to her one day on the vo-tech bus in high school.”
I really had to talk myself into having the courage to do it and I had a friend who gave me moral support.
It was a very scary thing to do because I was afraid of rejection even though her and I exchanged glances in the hallway that made us both feel like we got struck by lightening when we saw each-other
Yes you can’t blame a guy for trying.
Now if you tell them to eff off snd they din’t go away then it gets creepy.
This is awesome advice!
honestly as a guy, if you don’t fall in the top 20% men category, it’s not even worth dating for us anymore.
I don't think that's true, but I think the defeatism that comes from that is the main reason why many of us 20 percenters have multiple women these days. I'm not complaining mind you, but I think a lot of us are doing as well as we are not because of any magical qualities or looks we have so much as a relative lack of competition.
@@kenofken9458Perfect explanation! To the self-proclaimed 80% - you are what you attract, or don’t attract.
@chickenandchips8802 I hope that your mindset has changed from when you made this comment.
Because having a defeatist attitude will unfortunately yield failure unfortunately.
I don't approach women because I fear being seen as creepy, I don't approach them because I don't want them to see me as being not self confident. There is a huge difference. Plus, at my advanced age, why bother. My sexiest years are far behind me. Yet, women 40 years younger than I still show interest. Don't know why, they just do. Not all of them, obviously, but way more than I would expect...
Right. As we age we tend to have our pick of the femaIes, the problem is, we've been burned by them so much that we don't want them now.
I think a lot of perceived creepiness just comes from the man being nervous. I've been watching a lot the TH-cam channel More Plates More Dates, and he seems to agree with that theory and his proposed solution is exposure therapy. You stop being intimidated by women by approaching women until they no longer make you nervous and you start coming off as normal. He is probably right, but his solution is more easily said than done for most men today.
@@michaeldooley5398 Not that I disagree with your points, but trust me on this one: Women will and do try to "chat men up" if you are handsome and successful. It will happen to you on a weekly basis. Even married and engaged women would do that over and over again, no matter how clear you have rejected them.
No, creepiness is something that's totally inside a woman's mind.
@@andersnielsen6044 ah I've had women ask me out and I didn't even have job and I'm short and average looking.
@@SystematicMechanic None of the things you mention exclude being handsome and successful.
Absolutely. I see it in myself all the time because when I get nervous I can tell that I'm starting to look fidgety lmao
Which is miles different from chill me when I'm out with my friends and I can show my best side. A great tip my best friend gave me when I brought up a girl we know whom I don't really like but from the outside may look like we're dating was to try and act the same way with girls I like. He said something like "you don't like her, so you act normal and she enjoys being around you. Just do the same when you're with one that you like" and well, he's right
Short version: if you're not 6 feet tall, don't make 6 figures, or have 6 inches, you're creepy, and you're at risk for false harassment charges or being arrested.
Triple 6. Antichrist, Baby. Tells it all.
1 not making six figures.
2 a 9 to 5 job.
3 asking them out.
4 existing.
1-4) If you are not Chad Studly.
5. Breathing
You ain't takin any of that with you when you're long gone..........
Lol
Love #4
Thank you Courteney for giving me a woman's point of view on this. I worked with a female who had a lot of bad days at work. Overwhelmed. Verbal. She would sometimes talk for over an hour when I clocked out about problems. I listened. Something I'm told is much needed. Don't try to fix it. Just listen. One day I delivered her mail at work. I heard crying. I asked if she was okay. Her back was to me and I came up to her and my hands touched her shoulders. She screamed "don't touch me!" This scared the hell of me. I was utterly confused. My act was out of concern and compassion. I wasn't trying to make a move on her. I got fired. Since then I've learned that I can't touch people at work on the shoulder, male or female. After my wife died I got full on body hugs from at least three members of management, only a couple of months prior. To say this is frustrating is the understatement of the year. I come from a small town. My family, my friends, my church hugs, touches, shakes hands, pats on the shoulder. It's a gesture of friendship and compassion. Nothing more. After my story got out people come up behind me and place their hands on my shoulder asking me if I'm ok. Their way of saying I did nothing wrong. It would be funny if it wasn't so serious. I'm blindsided by this.
@Tracchofyre Went to employment office and signed up for help on finding a new job. Told the nice lady my story and she began crying. She grabbed my hands (act of compassion) and I started crying too. Couldn't stop. Had to leave. Bawled my brains out in the parking lot for at least an hour. Another employee came out a couple of times to check on me in the parking lot. I think I had a full blown panic attack. I lost 9 people in the last couple of years including my wife. Then, I try to help someone and I'm branded some kind of pervert. I can't think of anything worse. The employment lady asked me if I'm scared of her touching me and I said I'm terrified of anyone touching me right now. I'm terrified of touching anyone. My pastor said don't even shake hands. I'm vulnerable. I'm grieving. And it feels like the predators smell blood. I realize I'm trying to cope and that it will take time, but seriously. ........ What happened to people?
@@nono-yesyesmaybe feminism happened. Men being too nice to nip it in the bud happened. Time to take it all away.
@@nono-yesyesmaybe if you live in California or New York or Chicago that could be it too people there are a different mood lol
@@2_572 She's from California.
@@nono-yesyesmaybe well shit lol.
There is a question that change me in a 180 degree , "Can you date yourself?" Analyze yourself and honestly ask yourself if you can be with someone that is 100% you, I could not so I change a lot of thing in the last 3 pasts months.
I am a man with a certain character. Looking for a woman with a certain other character! If I would meet a man like me, would I date that man? Of course not! When I was gay maybe! You don't have like yourself! You have to like the one that likes you! Could be two total different persons!
I have flaws and don't find myself attractive (although I am not insecure) and count that the one I feel attracted to also isn't perfect! As long as she has the traits In a positive way to me, that I deem important! And vice versa!
If I went out with the female version of me I would hate it, as a lot of my exs have told me I'm hard work but I'm not as long as I'm getting my own way 100 percent of the time 🍺🍻😜
@@ackerjawaka1966 Hard work means you don't like him, but maybe he earns enough credits for you to let him stay the night, right?!
I don't get the men that even consider such a woman!
If I notice she does not want me as much as I want her, I lose all interest! The notion she wants me back is one of the essential attractors in a woman! Without it, I am not interested at all! I will do my best to please her, if I know that pleasing her will get her even more exited! Not to excite her in the first place!
Maybe that is why I haven't had anybody in 10 years time, Although lots of women show interest at first glance!
I refuse to take the first step because they always pretend they are not interested. Too stupid!
I am so afraid of seeming weird or making a girl feel uncomfortable that I have often let the opportunity to get to know attractive girls or simply have a pleasant conversation with them pass by.
If you aren't a Chad......you're creepy!
I would add one more thing. If you ask a woman out and she says "no" and give you a reason, 99% of times it means that she isn't interested in YOU! It doesn't matter if she says she's not ready for a relationship, she's busy at work or her hamster died. She's just being nice and tries to avoid potentially awkward situation by telling you "no" without making it personal. Appreciate it! If a guy she finds genuinely attractive asks her out she will make herself ready for a relationship, find a time to meet him and forget about her hamster;)
Sorry, I'm washing the cat that night. Can't meet your. In fact, I wash the cat every night.
Good topic. When my wife and daughter go to the gym they tell me about "creepy" guys. They don't mind the look with a smile or wave. They say the "creepy" ones stare or workout by them and look repeatedly but never smile or anything. I tell them guys do either because they like what they see but are insecure about approaching or they want you to acknowledge them to get your approval first. It's interesting hearing their point of view.
Bro some women not your wife and kid are annoying af at the gym and need to hurry the f up so I can get my set in and leave! Not lookin at you maam im waiting can u look at ur damn phone on another machine please?!?!
@@samsneadd 🤣 heard! We've got some of those. Dudes too! Before they started in the gym I taught them some gym etiquette to avoid being those people. They do pretty good. Put on their music, leave phones in the bag, and superset their exercises. I was impressed. My gym bros tell me that they put the work in. Sometimes the owners wife trains with them too. But hey, guys are going to look regardless.
Or maybe,like me, the women are hogging the machine and not even bothering to get off between their sets and I'm trying to work up the courage to tell them to let me get my sets in without being considered a creep for using the service i paid for.
True. First time i agree. With. All women do not use the term "creep " when referring to unattractive men. That they insult. It's only 99.865% of the women that do that!! 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Actions ALWAYS speak louder than words.
If someone is interested in you, you’ll know. If someone isn’t interested in you, you’ll be confused.
Awesome advice.
*The difference between being creepy and not being creepy is largely how attractive you are.*
Spot on, its funny how women will make videos just to dance around the subject rather than admitting how looks is important to them.
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More like how WEALTHY you are - they just won’t admit to it
that's like saying you can't rape the willing, duh
@@thomasmalloryevans2932 Nah the money thing is a giant cope. You can still pull the hotties on an average income if you're attractive.
As a recently divorced man in his late 40s I feel so lost in the dating world. Your videos are helpful, it's very confusing out there And I feel so much has changed in the 15 years I was married.
Yep!
I have a woman who I clicked with and we were going out on dates. Out of nowhere, she said she wanted this other guy, and she is seeing him now. We work together, and she keeps approaching me and flirting heavily, touching my hands and following me around. I work in a hospital, so it's a huge place with hundreds upon hundreds of employees (lots of people date in the hospital... it's almost like college where everyone is dating. Super different environment, almost like a little city.)
But she follows me and seems jealous when I'm working with other women. She said she's into someone else, but her actions don't match her words. I think it's because I was supporting her financially, and she says the new guy she's with doesn't help her at all. You picked the other guy, so leave me alone!
@courtneyryan thank you for what you do, truly. You’re a calm reasonable caring voice in a sea of obnoxious loud sleezy influencers yelling terrible advice in our faces. You’re a gem, and you hold a lot of value to anyone lucky enough to come across you
Thank you so much for the kind comment 🥹 I appreciate it!
@@CourtneyRyan Thank you for being understanding.
@@CourtneyRyan
thank you .
The hand on back in passing can feel "creepy" but is often practical especially while navigating crowded, high energy spaces. People in crowds can unexpectedly move into someone else's path or gesture erratically which leads to all kinds of unfortunate interactions and misunderstandings. People are dancing etc. A gentle, momentary touch to signal your presence as you move through a space is gentler than a shoulder and can help minimize any number of much more uncomfortable situations. It can even ( often unintentionally) lead to organic meetings as the person whose back you briefly touched looks at you and realizes you just helped them avoid backing into waitstaff carrying a try or something.
Clearly Courtney would rather get body checked in a crowd.
@@soujemn5 Yea, this is a tough one. I too would rather body check a chick when collision is incoming, then make the effort with my hands for a softer impact (hopeing I land them in an appropriate spot. Cus i know if i had a chick, it would be WAR if some dude tried to do the same).
But ultimately, I avoid crowds all together.
I did a lot of that on my cruise to Alaska, it takes awhile to get your "sea legs."
@@jwg9338 It's really not. Glad it works for you but I think the brevity in passing is what works more than the elbow. Elbow is the worst! Maybe a shoulder? A gentle and BREIF hand on the back is better than an elbow ANYWHERE. It's the lingering and or caress that gets into creepy land.
I completely agree. It's something I've done a few times in very crowded establishments to create space rather than risk a full body impact.
There's nothing better than being called a creepy stalker by one of your university classmates publicly in front of your whole social circle for responding to 2 or 3 insta stories in months or years. Not even knowing that you sent does messages and received no answer. By someone who you actually thought highly of both personally and professionally. You try to fit in and make friends and that's what you receive being ignored, and being in total social isolation or called names. There's nothing better than having those two words play over and over again in your mind in an endless loop until you're inches from doing something stupid.... People do not think how damaging they can be even with a few words.
Stop caring what other people think. They don’t even like you and you are worried about it, you don’t need them.
I'm sorry what you went through that 😔
Thank you both. You know there's a period where you don't care yet what others think. There's a period where you've been through so much shit, name calling, loneliness and so on where you don't know how not to care. There's the period when this leads you to dark pits of hell, which does bring you back to not caring. Thank you both for the empathy. All this shit does make ultimately for a great screenplay and I do think that the lows are important parts of us that also makes us apriciate the beauty in life more. :)
Thats not right, and sorry you had to hear that from someone. Some women and people in general tend to throw around that word too loosely sometimes. You likely have plenty of people (or enough) that know who you are and that you are not like that. In the meantime just totally block that girl out of your life and dont give her any excuse to accuse you of anything. Its against the law for someone to make serious false allegations like that toward someone and they shouldn't be doing that to begin with.
@@Mrs.Deanna_Ember I haven't seen or spoken with her for years. Last year I sent her a message telling her the kind of effect her words had on me. While also telling her that I think she's a good person. As I started writing my screenplay I wanted to copy that message out. She blocked me and she is probably in thousands of miles away in a different country. So I don't think we'll ever speak again.
The hand on the lower back in a crowded bar, means that you’re blocking the way, we want to get passed you and we don’t want to talk to you. It’s a gentle reminder way of moving you out of the way without just barging through!
Hahaha man that was pretty good. I've seen so many guys do this sort of stuff.
On a bus one time... there was this young (early 20s ish) woman that had been taking my morning bus for about a week, at that point.
I always sat in the very back, so i had a perfect view of this interaction. One day a guy that also took that bus walks up to her. She's sitting in the front, on the right, inside seet of the two seats. He approaches from the back. Sits down next to her, instantly blocking her exit. First words out of his mouth. "I notice you when you started taking the bus last week, and have been trying to think of what to say to you." Very next stop 30 seconds later. She says, well... I gotta go. Pushes him out of the way and gets off the bus. He didn't even say much else to her. But, it definitely came out the wrong way as she got off the bus a good 30-40 min earlier than normal and it was -30 degrees C outside the bus. Next wasn't scheduled for another 45 min. She never took that bus again. Gentlemen. If you are a young guy and you want to cold approach. Run the lines past an older male, or younger female friend first. Screwing up an approach ruins it for other men.
My approach? I talk to every woman as if she's a married lesbian construction worker. I couldn't care less if it leads to anything more.
He dodged a bullet obviously,.
@@visaman that was probably 16 years ago. It takes a lot less than that for a young woman to get the *ick* from a cold approach these days. If you wanna cold approach a woman, perhaps first review Louis CKs bit about dating.
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Guys, just remember; at the end of the day you are pretty aware of what is and what isn't creepy, I'm sure more than you expect. If you are respectful and understand when to back off you're perfectly fine. If she still finds that creepy after you do everything right, that's on her and it's a problem she has to work on.
I don't know man, I'm not hating on the young guns but a lot dudes and chicks in their early 20's are pretty socially retarded. Maybe it's an age thing but I think it's more of a living life online thing.
i like this here
Agreed!
Very true yes.
I always open with the line...does anyone else know your here, if you get a smile then it is on to...who is your favourite serial killer 😜
There aren’t enough ways in the world to express our thanks/accurately capture how we feel about you and your vids, Courtney. You are a godsend.
I seem to have lost my attractiveness. Women don't respond to me as they used to. They smile kindly and are very friendly, but I don't sense that they are attracted to me as they used to be, especially the under-30s. I don't know why. I'm only 76.
I discovered this channel 2 days ago and watched dozens of videos, that help me a lot improving my bad character traits and habits, as well as building my self-awareness. What I have to say is that serious, sincere and helpful women with depth of character like Courtney are immensely valuable for our society, while being the ideal wife material we should have in mind... Keep up the good work!
Thank you 🥹 glad you’re here!
I’m in a relationship so getting girls isn’t something I need to work on. I started watching because I wanted to dress better and wanted help with my fashion but some of this stuff helped be be a better boyfriend and I’m doing so realize why my girlfriend is the one for me. Definitely a helpful channel. Courtney is for sure the example of the type of woman that men should look for.
everything I do is “creepy”, I just ignore women entirely.
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@@CourtneyRyan but u just made a video a few months ago about what is creepy again :-/
True 👏
🍷🗿 Based Sigma
There are a lot of guys that feel this way now.
being ugly, being broke, being short, or being shy. it has nothing to do with what you say or do, but everything to do with how SHE see's you
Yeah, if you got a lot of money... chics forget about everything else. Sad!
Sparkly things make her forget about the rest sadly…
@Ruined Well, sorry about that. Honestly, girls just want the same things we want. They're just a little more complicated.
@@davesteadman1226 thats not necessarily true. If we go with the typical woman who wants a tall rich man with a lot of charisma, most men want something different. Most men want a woman shorter than them and could careless how much money she makes.
So what? Why would you waist your time on a girl who hates you for who you are?
For my birthday last year, I went to a museum with a friend, and the entire time we were there he had been hovering over me. If I took a step, he took a step. If I stop at a display, glance at it, and move on, he'd follow me like a lost puppy. He was really close to me, practically attached to my back. It was VERY creepy! I told him he was free to look at what he wanted to look at and he didn't have to follow me everywhere, but he refused, saying that it was all about me and what I wanted that day. That made me feel worse. We've been friends for years. He has admitted to having romantic feelings for me and I've had to tell him that I am not interested in anything beyond friendship. If he thought I would find it sweet or cute by sticking to me as though he were glued to me, it backfired completely. The hovering made me so uncomfortable that I no longer want him in my space at all. That was all it took to damage a friendship I've had with a guy for years. Do NOT hover!
I'm a 68 yrs Black American and this segment is GOLDEN.
GOOD WORK.
I'm also 68 and Italian-American. She has great information!!
What I've been finding especially this holiday season, is I just stick to my schedule. The more you make yourself busy and respond to her texts and messages at your pace and at your time the more I find women are into me. I've been called creepy a few times and it really hurts. But at the same time if you know what you did wasn't, move on, keep your head up, and keep improving yourself. Now I have women asking me where are you what are you doing can I come over sometimes I find it "creepy" Thank you Courtney for another great video. 🙏🏾
You’re right. Far too many women think too much of themselves and label any guy who they don’t want to come onto them or even look at them as creepy. I’ve had to deal with this my whole life.
Women using the label "creep" is just an example of women making casual false accusations against men
They did it to themselves.
@@craigmunday3707Any woman who uses the words “creep” or “creepy” is simply worthless as a partner. Those two words should send every man walking away from her.
The major difference between appearing creepy and romantic is if she’s attracted to you. You can literally say the exact same thing to different women. If one woman finds you attractive it’s romantic or cute. If she doesn’t, creep alert. So guys are basically sticking their necks out each time and facing rejection or being called a creep with really no idea how she’s going to respond. But you can mitigate a creepy factor by having a great energy to it. And if she’s not interested, let go.
I used to think I was creepy before I watched this video. I really did not think people would go to great lengths just to be liked and have a relationship. I do not think I know the bad habits many act on. Thank you for opening my eyes.
The 2nd point is so true. If she’s uninterested or if she rejects you, just move on! Read her body language or the words she says to you. Don’t chase her, it makes you look weird, obsessed and desperate.
And if she's a complete bitch to you about it she's not worth it.
It's for your own benefit, too. You get an emotional sunk cost analysis going on in your head. This is also why you shouldn't sit on your hands for too long before you approach her. The more time you focus on her, the bigger the letdown if she's not into you, and the bigger the chance that you ignored someone else who'd be into you.
Yep, unfortunately a lot of men in the comments are acting like how they always complain about women act.
Weird and entitled, you're not going to get her by chasing her down.
You'll actually do better if you're nice, polite, and unbothered when you get rejected. I've heard horror stories of dudes being rejected and flipping out (and I've lived horror stories of rejecting women and them spazzing) and just by being normal you give yourself such a heads up.
"Just move on" is just bullshit advice. Move on to what?
@@Aaron-kj8dv stop being a male feminist
Oh and the "she says she's not interested" bit is also a bit tricky because they will say "I want to play hard to get to see if he's really into me" and other games. And then they complain that men are cowards because we take "no" at face value.
better to take no than to end up in court/jail on harassment charges.
I busted these prostitutes. So also their pimps
That happened to me with a girl at my job and afterwards I kept it strictly work between me and her, and she just lost it but I wasn’t trying to get a SA case cause that’s what will and can happen to anyone
@@RaderizDorret Playing “hard to get” is a mental disorder and should be viewed as such by men.
I have such a hard time being around men when they are saying inappropriate things. It is an automatic complete turn off does not matter at all what he looks like. I have met men who are absolutely gorgeous looking and after a few very demeaning instances I completely had an extreme aversion to being in the same area as him. This has happened a lot to me.
Another solid rule to follow: if you’re unattractive, any advances will be seen as creepy.
yea, if you're unattractive or have any type of social anxiety don't bother
Well maybe, unless you can get her laughing.
Rich dorky doctors get laid and marry hot girls al the time! Now finding a non materialistic genuine woman is a little more work if you are unattractive.
When I find myself in times of trouble, Courtney Ryan comes to me
speaking words of wisdom, let it be ...
Good points...unfortunately way to many guts have been taught that that's what they're supposed to do.
Women have aggregated this by encouraging this behavior by their " playing hard to get" games and attention seeking behaviors
speaking words of wisdom, you’re creepy.
If you're ugly, everything you do is creepy. If you're good looking it's considered flirting.
Powerful video Courtney thank you. I put this woman on a pedestal briefly and the next day I saw she did not respond to my morning text. So I didn’t text her for two days and she didn’t text me for two days. It was the best move I could’ve made. I sent her one text message in the afternoon two days later and just called out the shift that happened in our last conversation two days ago. And said I didn’t think this was working out. She agreed, and we parted ways amicably. It’s crazy how easy it is to be off putting. But I wasn’t in the creepy department and it’s because I have been watching these videos and learning so much. It was painful but I felt really good about how I handled it.
Makes sense. Number 1 is true and all but just as she pointed out often it's hard to know. My rule if she says she can't go out for whatever reason like "oh I'm sorry I'm busy" I don't try again unless she suggests another time herself.
I remember one time I asked a girl for her number and she was like "oh I don't have my phone" and I was thinking "you don't need your phone to give me your number" but I knew she was turning me down nicely so I just said "okay, maybe next time you'll have it on you" and laughed as a way to let her know I obviously knew what she was doing.
There are a lot of women who are submissive though and they want the guy to reach out to them and to try and reschedule. I've given up on women thinking that way before, I would wait until a woman flat out doesnt respond to you. Women are always on their phones, if she doesnt respond to you, I guarantee you she didnt suddenly become a monk and she is no longer interested.
I'm 5 foot 5/ 135 pounds and make a average salary. I used to get laid in my teens and early 20s because I did a bunch of drugs, sold a bunch of drugs, went to bars/parties, and had a rebellious attitude. Ever since I stopped going out much and keeping to myself, occupied with hobbies and such. Crazy women love a reckless guy, and now that I'm less reckless, I'm just kinda a abnormal fellow lol. I get it, I don't look hideous, there's a video of me on my channel. It's 5 years old so I'm ten pounds bigger but I was 125 pounds then lol. I give up, too much work, not enough reward.
@@TheXandemic A great example of “You are what you attract.”
ANOTHER CREEPY THING is... "Do you live alone?" ....I hate that question. And it's almost exclusively men who ask me this, and it's always men that I barely know. Like why the heck would you need to know if I live alone?? Are you planning to rob me or rape me?? Which one?? ....I know in their mind it's just to figure out if we'd have privacy if we were to start dating, but like GET TO KNOW ME AS A PERSON first, or go on a A FEW DATES WITH ME FIRST before you ask me that question, or BETTER YET don't ask me that question at all and just find out the NATURAL way as you get to know me.
I’ve gotten that question from women too but I never ask them because its inappropriate. If you’re friends and want to be open to each other’s living situation, you’re interested in their day to day life, then it might be sweet. But don’t ever bring it up with a stranger or someone you barely know because its none of their business and its creepy behaviour. Good post here on social interaction and the line about when to disclose things.
No woman would like it at all if we called her a crazy person, or worse, simply because we were not attracted to her. If we simply didn't have the spine to tell her we are not interested in her exclusively. Or, like all women seem to do, didn't give a clear answer one way or the other JUST IN CASE we changed our mind some time down the road.
Apparently what is good enough for them isn't good enough for other people though. They can dish it out all day, nonchalantly calling guys creepy, potentially destroying someone, but they don't like it when it comes back around.
I think we all wish there were more Courtney’s in the world.
It's very simple: If she likes you, nothing you do is creepy, if she doesn't, then it's everything. The more you care, the worse it is. Carry on.
This comment should be pinned. It 100% explains it all. Actually, it should be change to "if she finds you attractive, nothing you do is creepy"
As someone who has a tendency to use a quick, light hand on the upper back/shoulder as I walk past someone in a crowded bar/venue, no one’s getting uncomfortable from that are they?
Girl or guy, thats how i try to lightly indicate Im trying to pass behind someone
All men are creepy unless they are alpha Chad and alpha Tyrone
Worst part is now with social media, a woman could ruin a man’s life just by calling them creepy.
Yea and the unified mentality is ridiculous.
I don't approach because it's 2023. My question is why women are not approaching? Be empowered and do this...that's what it means to be empowered.
100%, women should go up to men with their engagement rings and the receipt for it and see if the guy says yes or would buy it down the road. As an average attractiveness guy, I hate having to put in effort, get rejected, get called creepy by a woman who just got her back blown out the other night by a gigachad who put in zero effort.
I've heard young women say this from 18 to 30ish...label men as creepy just because the men showed attraction to them, but weren't attractive to the recipient.
Hey Courtney! Can you do a poll of how common men who actually approach women receive really harsh rejections? I find in my experience that most of the women who have rejected me have done so gently and subtly, even in cold approach. However, I'm not a handsome man by any means but I'm also not a sub-5, so I'm wondering for those who are considered truly ugly (and not just feeling bad over insecurity) how often do over-reactions happen when you do approach a woman to say hi cuz that experience could be a lot different than the kind of rejections I would usually get.
Most of my in person rejections have been:
* Pre-emptive: I've literally had women tell me they have boyfriends or they're not interested without me showing an ounce of interest. Some I would have flirted with, some I would not.
* The subtle threat: "I have a boyfriend" is not necessarily a threat, but it absolutely can be. But "My boyfriend over there" or similar are pretty much exclusively threats. I don't get how there IS another interpretation, when a "no, thank you" or even the aforementioned "I have a boyfriend" do the same job without the direct implication.
* Mockery: I've had women I talked to just make fun of me. Even I'm not witless enough to think this isn't a rejection. I once started chatting to a guy at the bar, he was obviously talking down to me (just a snooty prick) but I always try to be friendly, girl walks over and starts making fun of me and telling the guy to just leave. I'd wished her a merry Christmas earlier in the evening, which was apparently enough to justify continuing rudeness. Think this was more a class issue, but my working class accent does not mean I'm dumb... (I've always been scholarly, top 3% through school)
* The "I love you as a friend." Totally acceptable. Some are still my friends, some are not. (note: this is similar to the preemptive, bc I have yet to ever "shoot my shot" with a female friend. I tend to like them too much as people to risk undermining the friendship)
* The deflection: "I'm not ready to date right now" (probably the "gentle let down")
* The "we're not dating, we're just meeting each other in a public place to spend time together and see where it goes" (dating without dating. Most frustrating of all imo)
* Ghosting. This one is I think very common.
Best rejection I ever had was being given a hug, told they felt flattered but they were taken. Was very sweet and genuinely left me feeling better for having asked.
Basically, I get rudely rejected when I ask more often than not.
But if I just talk to them without any implication of interest, I'm more likely to be treated positively. Especially at work women consistently compliment my attitude (especially younger women. I think they find my formality and guidance reassuring)
Even more funny is that "wives and girlfriends" warm to me immediately. I'm quirky and friendly. But even women I'm close to will make disgusted noises if even a joke is made about romantic compatibility with me (everyone knows I have a thick skin, and I'd NEVER betray that this is the one area I'm actually sensitive, bc they really don't mean anything nasty by it. I'm sure they'd hate it if they know I was upset)
@Dm Gray gonna be honest dude that sounds like most of the rejections I've been through. Preemptive rejection happened on middle school and some college. The subtle "my boyfriend is over there" idk enough context if I can count that as a threat cuz I would interpret it as she's just telling me her boyfriend is nearby. I definitely experienced that but never took it as a threat tho I just leave once i hear that which is the right response anyways. I have been in situations where I have talked to girls and then their bfs show up to talk to me. What I do here is be friendly with the bf and either excuse myself or let them leave either way I pretty much leave the interaction on a positive note.
I never experienced mockery thought but yea some ppl are dicks like that, but it sounds like you and I share most of these experiences in rejection. I was more or so talking about harsh responses in contexts where you do approach a woman and make your interest clears and she responds with more venom than just "no" or even the subtle examples you've pointed out.
@@GregXHunterz
I suppose it depends on your perspective.
To me, open mockery is pretty toxic. Disgusted faces and abrupt dismissals are also fairly common.
I don't necessarily even think it's conscious or intentional.
I can absolutely sympathise with a woman just not wanting to be bothered.
It's just the flip side is if nobody EVER bothers them, how are they gonna date? Because not many women are take the initiative :P
The "my bf is near" can ONLY be a threat in my understanding.
Might be informed by the number of times I was assaulted in school by arseholes for DARING to be friendly to a girl (and I knew some sweet girls that dated some *genuinely* awful guys)
What else COULD it mean? I didn't ask directions :P
It's not EGREGIOUS and I understand it (especially if a girl is fed up of being hit on, knowing that the guys that approach the most are likely also the least socially aware) but it is what it is.
@@DmGray People are rude as hell. Pre-emptive: One time one said to me "Don't even think about it I have a boyfriend". All because I looked at her.
I told her to F off. So she calls her boyfriend and he shows up and start asking me questions and I tell him his girl is rude as hell and he's like "I don't care".
So I ask him if want some sht and he says NO.
In my experience the only rude ones are like if I'm trying to get somewhere and I need their attention so they can move out of my way and they go "uuuh I have a boyfriend" and if you think about it it makes sense.
Someone who is clueless enough to think I'm approaching would also lack the social grace to be polite if that were the case.
I don’t see as being shy around women is creepy. Just because I avoid eye contact doesn’t make me a creep.
A man who is touching her when he first meets her. I've had a man touch my hair and started playing with it. He complimented I had pretty hair but still don't touch me. I don't even know you. He stares at you without blinking while he's talking to you. Yes, getting a ton of messages is creepy.
Ooof, that is weird!!
That sounds like a 100% psychopath... 😥
A girl I had a crush on told me I was creepy for not touching her, and another one for not enough eye contact. The weirdest one was when I didn’t flirt back to a girl that I had no idea that she was flirting with me I guess every one is very different.🤣
@@cesarmarquez8670 Dude a lot of them make sht up as they go, have mood swings, etc. I've found early on that the best thing
to do is not play games just ask them if they have a boyfriend or not and go from there. No matter what you do some girl is going to call
you creepy because a lot of them are immature. Stand up for yourself and Just tell them to shut up for insulting you.
@@SystematicMechanic Shit finally a real G.
I do the same, i ask them if they're taken or not and if they say they're taken then I walk away, but the girls are so creepy and weird its unreal. they keep stare at me for extended period of times like crazy girls
I have a bit of a rule i follow
If there is a no or anything resembling a no, then you stop what you're doing.
Doesn't matter if it's part of the game or what.
It doesn't matter if it's for the fun of it or if it's for the sake of attention. It is not worth the level of disrespect for your time nor the risk you have if, god forbid, you misinterpret the game.
It just isn't worth the time and grief to play
Interesting concept: creepy is specially about uncertainty - a potential misalignment between behavior and intentions. A scary person isn’t creepy (it’s just scary) and a harmless person isn’t creepy (just harmless), but creepy is when it isn’t clear which is which, and the uncertainty of that seems to triggers something deep and ignite a fear response in women. Which sucks for guys who can set that off, but is probably an evolved and useful response for keeping them safe.
I see. Then Moon Dong-eun wasn't creepy. She was just interacting with her enemies, ready to become even more deadly and sinister to her former bullies. A truly evolved response to keep Dong-eun safe.
To clarify, it's from what I gleaned on what you wrote and used a fictionalized character to determine if she was creepy or not.
Most Western women these days creep ME out - I found a traditional minded gorgeous wife in East Asia - bliss!
I think that air and water are very creepy. They go everywhere. However just try to stay alive without them
For the most part I agree. But the hand on the back thing... I do that when I'm moving through a crowded bar with both men and women. It's not about trying to touch you. It's a crowded and loud bar. I'm scooting past you and I want you to know I'm there and you will most likely scoot forward a step and give me room to get by.
One thing to consider is that Courtney is an introvert giving an introvert's perspective. If you're dealing with a woman who's more extroverted, she might be more open to some of the things--like establishing light physical contact early on, or flirty/sexy jokes--that Courtney feels are a hard "no" in the early stages. Both perspectives are valid of course. This is why men really need to work on their ability to read body language and understand word selection and voice tone, so you can pick up quickly on what's working and what isn't and adjust appropriately. Because if you treat the extrovert like you're dealing with Courtney, she'll think, "Oh I guess he's not interested," and if you treat the introvert like the extrovert she'll think, "Ugh he's so pushy"
Great, so all we need is an extroverted counterpart to Courtney to tell us the other side of that coin
Things that make men seem creepy to women:
1) not being super handsome
2) not being over 6 feet tall
3) not being rich
Mate I got bad news, I'm 6'4", earn 6 figures, close to M$, and I am rejected by every woman I ever glance at
@@mirceastaicu4131 are you handsome?
@@EinSofQuester Probably not
@@mirceastaicu4131 so you don't fit all three requirements that I mentioned.
@@EinSofQuester That's what I was pointing at, you don't need to fit all three to be considered a creep
Life would be easier for everyone if women just asked out men. Then both parties would probably end up happier 🤦🏻♂️
When someone puts their hand on your back when they pass, often it’s to let you know they’re behind you so you don’t inadvertently back/bump into them. It’s a service industry thing. I was 3-4 weeks in when I finally figured it out.
0:54 I appreciate that you're not too PC to include this.