A few skate parks are a must have in every city. We petitioned our city to build one for many years. They did. But, they did such a poor job that I basicly stoped skating all together. I will never forget the dispointment. So much money and concrete. There was so much potential. Stupid city officials. Spend millions and cheaped out on the architect. For F sake.
It is unfortunate. Besides making skate parks to keep it as sub culture, skating has fascinating potential into offering alternative for the emerging video games, social interaction and what is most important . . .if we'll though accessible public skating can offer such a great social control and safer cities.
@@stripping_architecture You can ride many things on a skate park and it keeps the kids off the streets and destroying public property. It's all positive and the cost will probably be offset from the things that didn't get destroyed. It's only logical to build one or two.
Living or conducting any buisness next to a skate park, or next to places where a lot of people gather to skate, is a nightmare. The noise is hell. Everyone else has rules to avoid to disturb the rest of the society. You can't just put your drumset in front of a store or underneath apartments windows and start playing. The same should apply to every noisy hobbie. Noisy, dangerous, disturbing hobbies needs to happen away from where people are trying to live, work or sleep.
Most of the spaces we have shown are commercial spaces that are quite dead during the day. In the next video we have prepared a very interesting case where residents themselves installed defensive materials to prevent noise. And that is a positive case. Question is, why corporate private entities have more impact over the public space rather than citizens.
I think this video gives a wrong reflection of the city of Rotterdam as a whole. Rotterdam has several public skate parcs located in the city centre en had a lot of homeless shelter so the few places they do decide to implement 'hostile' design for the benefit of the majority of the residents calmness and safety I'm confident it's for the better. I don't want skaters crashing into me as I'm entering the museum. But I love seeing them enjoy their sport aprox. 200m over in the skatepark.
We value your opinion, and different opinions are sacred. However, we believe that the video gives a variety of reflection and and we are trying to avoid emotional approaches from privileged positions. All you see on the video is real, and that should have sparked a bit of sympathy. What you want in the city is great, but also others want something else. The approach of "I don't want to be bunping into skaters when going in Museum" is a totalistic approach. Like only that is happening. You don't want skaters there, but they have the right to be there. You want to see homeles at shelter sleeping only, that is bit fas.....ism. Do they want to be there only? You want to sit alone, but there are people who want to sit in large groups. Also, combating skaters with lazy solutions just makes the space dificult for others, for example wheelchair users. Using wheelchair along Weena would not be a fair experience. Regarless if you use the public space or the POPs. The space could be designed in a way that will fit everyone, and this what we saw are lazy, consumerist solutions with selective approach. That was mentioned at the end as a point. Don't forget, the vulnerable ones have the least voice and we yet design against them.
Because they had to build barriers to stop him from harassing and endangering pedestrians. Not every flat surface is meant as a skatepark, no matter how much you may claim and think that it's your right to skate everywhere.
@@williamgeardener2509 I agree with you, I was just trying to be a teenager again. I still skate now I am an old man and I am from Rotterdam, the first night these things were installed I didn’t notice and slammed really hard. (This was 20 years ago) The City of Rotterdam really took care of the skaters and you should not skate inappropriate places, not in Rotterdam or anywhere else.
A few skate parks are a must have in every city. We petitioned our city to build one for many years. They did. But, they did such a poor job that I basicly stoped skating all together. I will never forget the dispointment. So much money and concrete. There was so much potential. Stupid city officials. Spend millions and cheaped out on the architect. For F sake.
It is unfortunate. Besides making skate parks to keep it as sub culture, skating has fascinating potential into offering alternative for the emerging video games, social interaction and what is most important . . .if we'll though accessible public skating can offer such a great social control and safer cities.
@@stripping_architecture You can ride many things on a skate park and it keeps the kids off the streets and destroying public property. It's all positive and the cost will probably be offset from the things that didn't get destroyed. It's only logical to build one or two.
Living or conducting any buisness next to a skate park, or next to places where a lot of people gather to skate, is a nightmare. The noise is hell. Everyone else has rules to avoid to disturb the rest of the society. You can't just put your drumset in front of a store or underneath apartments windows and start playing. The same should apply to every noisy hobbie. Noisy, dangerous, disturbing hobbies needs to happen away from where people are trying to live, work or sleep.
Most of the spaces we have shown are commercial spaces that are quite dead during the day. In the next video we have prepared a very interesting case where residents themselves installed defensive materials to prevent noise. And that is a positive case. Question is, why corporate private entities have more impact over the public space rather than citizens.
I think this video gives a wrong reflection of the city of Rotterdam as a whole. Rotterdam has several public skate parcs located in the city centre en had a lot of homeless shelter so the few places they do decide to implement 'hostile' design for the benefit of the majority of the residents calmness and safety I'm confident it's for the better. I don't want skaters crashing into me as I'm entering the museum. But I love seeing them enjoy their sport aprox. 200m over in the skatepark.
We value your opinion, and different opinions are sacred. However, we believe that the video gives a variety of reflection and and we are trying to avoid emotional approaches from privileged positions. All you see on the video is real, and that should have sparked a bit of sympathy. What you want in the city is great, but also others want something else. The approach of "I don't want to be bunping into skaters when going in Museum" is a totalistic approach. Like only that is happening. You don't want skaters there, but they have the right to be there. You want to see homeles at shelter sleeping only, that is bit fas.....ism. Do they want to be there only? You want to sit alone, but there are people who want to sit in large groups. Also, combating skaters with lazy solutions just makes the space dificult for others, for example wheelchair users. Using wheelchair along Weena would not be a fair experience. Regarless if you use the public space or the POPs. The space could be designed in a way that will fit everyone, and this what we saw are lazy, consumerist solutions with selective approach. That was mentioned at the end as a point.
Don't forget, the vulnerable ones have the least voice and we yet design against them.
Skatestoppers........proof that the devil exists.
:), sounds right. Tinny but effective
Because they had to build barriers to stop him from harassing and endangering pedestrians.
Not every flat surface is meant as a skatepark, no matter how much you may claim and think that it's your right to skate everywhere.
@@williamgeardener2509
I agree with you, I was just trying to be a teenager again.
I still skate now I am an old man and I am from Rotterdam, the first night these things were installed I didn’t notice and slammed really hard. (This was 20 years ago)
The City of Rotterdam really took care of the skaters and you should not skate inappropriate places, not in Rotterdam or anywhere else.