Great video for the kayaker, you start adding a few features and the fishing gear, you’re not slinging that beast around all that easy. Love the kayak over the dolly wheels.
Cut a pair of pool noodle strips about a foot long and put them on your ratchet strap where it goes over your gunnels to protect yak , cheap and easy .
So many times I have looked at my 2016 PA14 and thought "Man! I could use a nice john boat or bass boat and (since I am not getting any younger) get through the water easier and - blah blah blah". But dude here is soooo right. All of a sudden I find myself launching in a marsh next to tons of red drum or portaging across a shallow into a hole nobody else can get to. Then I calm down and realize I am satisfied: I just don't know it. Oyster beds, barnacles, gaffs, sharks - they have all done their best to destroy my papaya and it still keeps on keeping on!
I'll be getting a PA 14 in the near future. By the look of your Tundra, it's a crewmax. I have a 12' ocean malibu that I transport in my double cab tundra. Your kayak has to be out 6+ foot past your tailgate. Ever consider the boonedox t-bone bed extender. Good video by the way
Hi Ron, my truck is the double cab. My bed is 6.5’. But that tailgate is big. So it extends it quite a bit. The boonedox is great. But honestly, I never truck my kayak, I always trailer it. As a kayak fly fishing guide, I have a 6 rack trailer and always have clients with me.
From a physics standpoint, because of how light Hobie's are in the back, there's no need to use an extender. Unless you're planning on offroading that thing, lmao.
Very helpful video! I just bought a new Outback today along with a cart. In reading the owner’s manual, I noticed it advised to transport the kayak upside down, resting it on the rails. I have an older Hobie kayak (a Kona) and have never transported it upside down and it’s never been a problem. I’m also going to put it in the bed of my pickup. I’m interested in your opinion about what the owner’s manual says. Also, I’ve heard the cart can sometimes crack the scupper holes. Have you experienced anything like that?
The outback is flat upside down so it won't slide around. Especially important on roof racks. I think the outback in the bed of a truck is fine either direction.
Hey Blake, I drive a Honda Ridgeline with sports rack on the cab. I also plan on buying a PA 14. Would you advise that I lift the rather heavy PA 14 atop my cab and strap it down onto the roof rack, or, do you advise that I get a bed extension for my 5' bed and just load it more easily onto the bed to the truck with that bed extension?
Absolutely. Slide in the water and then install the drive. The drive can be in the kayak laying under the seat but make sure it has a leash so it doesn’t fall in and sink
Personally I'd tie it down with two. One straight across the middle of the kayak (but not over the bars, they can bend). And the second a long one that goes all the way to the back through the area with the handle
Hey! Idk if this will be seen but I just got into kayak fishing a few months ago on a outback and I load it into my extra cab Tacoma, 6’ bed without a bed extender and it seems fine but I want to upgrade to a PA 14 being a bigger guy. You think it would be fine without the bed extender still? Like to much pressure on the bottom? Without having the extra support in the rear? Only because I don’t have a hitch to put a bed extender. Everyone here in Hawaii uses one.
The more I see it, the more I am aiming for the PA14 as I have a very bad back and I want to go out on the lake and ocean with my Shetland sheepdog. I've seen that the new seats offer great back support and the PA14 looks like it has the room for both me and my dog. My main concern has been loading and transporting the kayak when I finally get it. I have a 2021 Subaru Crosstrek and I got the thule kayak racks with it before I started researching kayaks (they hold the kayak on its side on the roof). I was wondering if that'll work of if there is a better way to do it since it'll just be me. Thanks in advance for your reply if you see this.
I haven't seen anyone transport a PA on its side. Usually those style of carriers aren't wide enough for the PA. They are designed more for sea kayaks. The PA is usually transported flat. Double check that your roof rack is rated for over 120 pounds. Many are not. Before buying one, I'd recommend trying one out loading and unloading. See if it is even possible for you to get it on top of the vehicle. The absolute best way is to load from behind the vehicle, just like I did in the video, but you're unloading on top instead of onto a tailgate. Putting something on the back part of the vehicle to protect it is a good idea if you don't have a rack that has an incorporated load assist.
If you are referring to the pin on the cart, it comes with it. If you have lost yours, the pin and bungee are replaceable. I believe we have them in stock. Give us a call. 253-851-3474
Hi Brian, I don’t think you need the bed extender. My truck is a four door and has a 6.5’ bed. But the kayak is 14’. As long as you have half of it in there and tie it down, you’re good. Just remember to put an orange or red flag on it since it is sticking out more than 3 feet
@@Gigharborflyshop Yessir I have the red flag. ACK thought I might not need it either. I was just more concerned with uneven pressure causing damage to my yak. That outback aint cheap bruh. Thanks for the reply.
I’ve seen someone use a bungee system so when they pull the kayak on to the cart and lift up the cart just snaps into place. Or check out the landing gear from boonedox
I don't use a bed extender on my truck, so as long as you tie it down well in a pick up, you'll most likely be fine. You just want more than half of the kayak in the bed+tail gate.
My bed is 6.5’. If you have a 5’ bed, there are bed extenders that we have in stock from axis. You flag off the kayak with a safety flag, always. We’ve sold well over a thousand of them and no one has had an issue.
@@pa1264 scratches are superficial and doesn't affect anything. If you scratch it really bad, there are ways to fix it. You can even melt the plastic off a blue tarp and fill in the scratches.
Thanks! This is one of the only public docks in our harbor. I've launched off higher drop offs too, that gets a little tricky. With gear in the kayak I can do it off this one. But anything higher I have to have stuff strapped down and secured.
Wow! What an excellent demo. Thanks man.
Steve Rosenberg thanks!!
Great video for the kayaker, you start adding a few features and the fishing gear, you’re not slinging that beast around all that easy. Love the kayak over the dolly wheels.
I order pa14 last week can’t wait here in Florida thanks for the video technique is always the best to know
That’s great!!
Excellent video.
Glad you liked it!
Thanks for this video…I know a lot of folks would think they can muscle these kayaks but there’s always a smarter way to save toll on the body:)
Very true!
Nice. Doing my first dock launch next wknd. I have a hobie passport 12. Very helpful 👍
Good luck! Hope you catch some fish too!
Great info. Thanks!
Good video. I purchased a PA14 and ended up using a trailer and launch it at boat ramps. I'm going to have to try your tips and use the wheels.
Trailer for the PA14 is about the smartest thing you can do
Nice looking!
Thanks!
Thanks for the video I have a pa14 and this made me realize I need to invest in some wheels lol.
Oh yeah. The wheels are essential!
Sweet! One of these days I'll buy a kayak.
If you're thinking about it for this year, don't wait. There's a huge inventory shortage and crazy high demand!
Very helpful, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Yeah! Finally I good video on real launch and retrieve for kayak. The hobie cart is the best! Wonder if it will work for old town salty pdl
Thanks for checking out the video!
Cut a pair of pool noodle strips about a foot long and put them on your ratchet strap where it goes over your gunnels to protect yak , cheap and easy .
So many times I have looked at my 2016 PA14 and thought "Man! I could use a nice john boat or bass boat and (since I am not getting any younger) get through the water easier and - blah blah blah". But dude here is soooo right. All of a sudden I find myself launching in a marsh next to tons of red drum or portaging across a shallow into a hole nobody else can get to. Then I calm down and realize I am satisfied: I just don't know it. Oyster beds, barnacles, gaffs, sharks - they have all done their best to destroy my papaya and it still keeps on keeping on!
Thanks for sharing!! Glad you’re getting plenty of use out of it!!
Thank you so much!!!!
You're welcome!
Saving up for pa 14 360
It's worth it!
I'll be getting a PA 14 in the near future. By the look of your Tundra, it's a crewmax. I have a 12' ocean malibu that I transport in my double cab tundra. Your kayak has to be out 6+ foot past your tailgate. Ever consider the boonedox t-bone bed extender. Good video by the way
Hi Ron, my truck is the double cab. My bed is 6.5’. But that tailgate is big. So it extends it quite a bit.
The boonedox is great. But honestly, I never truck my kayak, I always trailer it. As a kayak fly fishing guide, I have a 6 rack trailer and always have clients with me.
@@Gigharborflyshop Awesome! You have a good taste in trucks sir. Tight Lines
From a physics standpoint, because of how light Hobie's are in the back, there's no need to use an extender. Unless you're planning on offroading that thing, lmao.
👍💪👏👏 you the best
Nice thank you
You're welcome. I'm glad it was helpful.
Very helpful video! I just bought a new Outback today along with a cart. In reading the owner’s manual, I noticed it advised to transport the kayak upside down, resting it on the rails. I have an older Hobie kayak (a Kona) and have never transported it upside down and it’s never been a problem. I’m also going to put it in the bed of my pickup. I’m interested in your opinion about what the owner’s manual says.
Also, I’ve heard the cart can sometimes crack the scupper holes. Have you experienced anything like that?
The outback is flat upside down so it won't slide around. Especially important on roof racks. I think the outback in the bed of a truck is fine either direction.
I find it easier to put the cart in the rear scupper holes to load it in and out the truck.
The only issue with the rear scupper holes is the weight balancing
Hey Blake, I drive a Honda Ridgeline with sports rack on the cab. I also plan on buying a PA 14. Would you advise that I lift the rather heavy PA 14 atop my cab and strap it down onto the roof rack, or, do you advise that I get a bed extension for my 5' bed and just load it more easily onto the bed to the truck with that bed extension?
I would definitely utilize the bed. The bed extender makes loading as well as tying down, easier.
Very helpful but one other question. Do you put the pede drive in after it's in the water?
Absolutely. Slide in the water and then install the drive. The drive can be in the kayak laying under the seat but make sure it has a leash so it doesn’t fall in and sink
Should i tie the down the front also. Or the that strap in back is good enough?
Depends on how secure it feels, how far you’re going, and on what type of roads
@@Gigharborflyshop about 2 hr drive going uphill and downhill. Up the mountains, Big Trees in California.
Personally I'd tie it down with two. One straight across the middle of the kayak (but not over the bars, they can bend). And the second a long one that goes all the way to the back through the area with the handle
Hey! Idk if this will be seen but I just got into kayak fishing a few months ago on a outback and I load it into my extra cab Tacoma, 6’ bed without a bed extender and it seems fine but I want to upgrade to a PA 14 being a bigger guy. You think it would be fine without the bed extender still? Like to much pressure on the bottom? Without having the extra support in the rear? Only because I don’t have a hitch to put a bed extender. Everyone here in Hawaii uses one.
I think you’d be good. Bed extenders are cheap though and worth the $150
@@Gigharborflyshop ok thanks. I would love to use a bed extender but I don’t have a hitch and don’t want to go through the trouble of putting one on.
The more I see it, the more I am aiming for the PA14 as I have a very bad back and I want to go out on the lake and ocean with my Shetland sheepdog. I've seen that the new seats offer great back support and the PA14 looks like it has the room for both me and my dog. My main concern has been loading and transporting the kayak when I finally get it. I have a 2021 Subaru Crosstrek and I got the thule kayak racks with it before I started researching kayaks (they hold the kayak on its side on the roof). I was wondering if that'll work of if there is a better way to do it since it'll just be me. Thanks in advance for your reply if you see this.
I haven't seen anyone transport a PA on its side. Usually those style of carriers aren't wide enough for the PA. They are designed more for sea kayaks. The PA is usually transported flat. Double check that your roof rack is rated for over 120 pounds. Many are not. Before buying one, I'd recommend trying one out loading and unloading. See if it is even possible for you to get it on top of the vehicle. The absolute best way is to load from behind the vehicle, just like I did in the video, but you're unloading on top instead of onto a tailgate. Putting something on the back part of the vehicle to protect it is a good idea if you don't have a rack that has an incorporated load assist.
Where did you get the hobie cart top cap like that. Name? Link's? Share info pls.
If you are referring to the pin on the cart, it comes with it. If you have lost yours, the pin and bungee are replaceable. I believe we have them in stock. Give us a call. 253-851-3474
When my tailgate is down my truck bed is 7.5', I just bought a 2021 Hobie outback at 12'6". Think I need a bed extender? Or should it be fine?
Hi Brian, I don’t think you need the bed extender. My truck is a four door and has a 6.5’ bed. But the kayak is 14’. As long as you have half of it in there and tie it down, you’re good. Just remember to put an orange or red flag on it since it is sticking out more than 3 feet
@@Gigharborflyshop Yessir I have the red flag. ACK thought I might not need it either. I was just more concerned with uneven pressure causing damage to my yak. That outback aint cheap bruh. Thanks for the reply.
They’re not cheap but they’re built like a tank
I would like to see you turn it on its side with all your fishing equipment in the kayak. There must be a better way.
I’ve seen someone use a bungee system so when they pull the kayak on to the cart and lift up the cart just snaps into place. Or check out the landing gear from boonedox
Cool video I’m looking at the pa12 or maybe an old town. Are you a dealer here in WA?
We definitely are!
How far can u haul a 14 pro in back of short bed truck
Strap it and flag it and you’re good to go!
Can I let my PA12 kayak hang out back of my ute with out the bed extender
I don't use a bed extender on my truck, so as long as you tie it down well in a pick up, you'll most likely be fine. You just want more than half of the kayak in the bed+tail gate.
@@Gigharborflyshop ok your utes tray looks longer than my Mitsubishi Triton ute tray I'll try that one day when my back comes right.
Show how easy it is to roll onto its side when you have a few fishing poles, your net, tackle box, etc.
After all, it is a fishing kayak, right?
Is it that hard to take your h-crate out of the kayak and set the wheels?
What do those wheels retail for?
shop.gigharborflyshop.com/hobie-plug-in-cart.html
Did the drawing for the sage sonic happen yet
Yeah, the results are posted on our channel's Community Tab
Bed size 5 feet + gate 2 feet = 7 feet. But a kayak has 14 feet, how can you leave 7+ feet outside of your truck bed? I don't think it's safe.
My bed is 6.5’. If you have a 5’ bed, there are bed extenders that we have in stock from axis. You flag off the kayak with a safety flag, always. We’ve sold well over a thousand of them and no one has had an issue.
Bugger I don't want to scratch my kayak pulling it up on the dock🤤
I've done it hundreds of times. It does't really do anything to it.
@@Gigharborflyshop you seem to have good luck I've scratch my kayak just sliding it on my roof racks😁 even a little bit of sand scratches it🤤
@@pa1264 scratches are superficial and doesn't affect anything. If you scratch it really bad, there are ways to fix it. You can even melt the plastic off a blue tarp and fill in the scratches.
@@Gigharborflyshop Thank you so much for your help very much appreciated I'll go and buy some new blue tarp have a great week😁
@@Gigharborflyshop now I'm thinking of selling my 2020 hobie mirage compass kayak and get a proangler 12 not cheap here in Australia😁
How long is your tundra bed.?
6 and a half feet
Better off launching from the boat docks behind you. Excellent vid tho, especially for those who have no other option than a 3-4ft drop off.
Thanks! This is one of the only public docks in our harbor. I've launched off higher drop offs too, that gets a little tricky. With gear in the kayak I can do it off this one. But anything higher I have to have stuff strapped down and secured.