HOBIE PA or HOBIE OUTBACK ?? WHICH IS BETTER FOR YOU
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- Alright guys, just wanted to do a quick run down and comparison of my two kayaks, the Hobie PA14 and the Hobie Outback!! I know someone is always looking into the Hobie Brand and thought this video may help someone's decision a little easier!!
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Outback! Plenty enough for me. Weighs less. Pedals faster and plenty stable for me. Only way I’d get a PA is if I get a trailer. Don’t get me wrong, PA is a beast. But that weight deterred me away from it. That internal rod storage and overall room around the kayak is phenomenal.
I love my PA!! My favorite kayak out there but, my outback has its purpose for sure!!
The PA IS heavy. Mine was in for repair and my fishing buddy (who purchased my previous Outback) loaned me the Outback back so I could keep fishing -- he has another paddle kayak and I'm retired so fish nearly every day. The Outback was such a pleasure pulling out of the water that I seriously considered trading down, but instead went to the PA 14 and a trailer! PLUS I do have a Dynamic Dolly which makes moving the heavier kayaks SO much easier.
One thing I've noticed on just about all kayaks, any brand, is that this Hobie PA-14 has a great seat that also has arm rests. It may not seem like a big deal, but, if you're on the water for hours, it is very nice to have arm rests. I also like the PA-14 open deck area in front of the seat. Lots of room to not only stand but also turn around and not have to worry about stepping on something. A great craft for sure ! Expensive, but, sort of the Cadilac of fishing kayaks, IMO.
Roger -- love the name! (It's mine too!)
Another plus on the armrests for me is getting out of the PA. They help haul my fat, old butt up!
100 % correct man!!
A person really needs one of each!🤗🤗
Agreed lol I got lucky on the Outback lol
Outback is probably the most capable off shore fishing kayak. There’s a reason these places in Panama use them for marlin tuna and rooster fish in big swells
I’ve been in an Outback for 5 years and now looking to add a PA14 to my life…this video is helpful! Thank you.
@@TheFishingMommy thanks for watching... so much room in the PA
Both are phenomenal kayaks . I have been super impressed with the Outback on multiple occasions . It turns on a dime ! Specially with the drive from the PA in it ... Producing the same wake as a 40 lb thrust trolling motor lol 😆 Sweet video bro 👍
Dang man….decisions decisions. Solid information today from ya man. Appreciate it….now which one lol
Excellent breakdown! Certainly each is a pleasure to fish from.
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I went from an Outback to a PA 12 360. Wow! I met a guy who had the PA 14 360. I worried about the extra weight. He said he was coming from a bass boat so wanted the larger Hobie for the space.
NOW I've upgraded to the PA 14 -- and got a trailer. Now just need to relearn how to back one up! It's been 40 years since I backed a trailer. But I also have the Dynamic Dolly, so if necessary I can scoot the kayak onto the dolly and move it that way.
PADDLING
You are absolutely right about the Outback being easier to paddle. My drive on the PA 12 360 "stuck" and I had to paddle back. SO wide! On my 14 I'll have a Bixpy motor, so that should also help if I have another drive issue.
CENTER HATCH
I also prefer the bin to that pop-up tackle system. The pop-up just has too much wasted space, IMO.
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The Hobie Vantage seat is awesome, but even so, my butt got sore after 6 hours or more. So I tried a Kayak Kushion. Now I recommend them all the time! Butt ache disappeared immediately!
Keep up the great work!
Roger, The Smiling BassHole
I doubt I'll ever not be in a Hobie
@@BASSnBEER Right there with you! I do love learning about other kayaks. And sometimes wish Hobie had some of the features of others. But I don't think I could ever go back to a paddle kayak (my first kayak was a Perception Striker -- a good deal for $500!), but I was never very good at paddling. And I like the mirage drive. I'm 70, so hope to have a few more years before I have to hang up my rods!
I wish there had been these types of kayaks during my younger days. I was a float tube guy for decades. Kept moving up. Ended with a Hobie Float Cat 75. I was working at an Orvis shop on Saturdays (I was a legal secretary during the week), and I got 50% off all fishing products sold at the shop. So I paid around $400, and then 20 years later sold it for almost that same amount! The Hobie Cat had 2 hard pontoons and a seat in the center. Much higher out of the water than traditional float tubes. AND it had oars.
The kayaks are much faster!
Hope to be back out on the water in the next month or so.
Keep posting!
Its a real nice kayak ..nice peddle drive and super stable for me ..im 6'4 230lb.. i also put a 55lb newport electric trolling motor on it and it will go around 4 mph.
i just wish the season was longer up here..the kayak fishing season goes quick here living in Alaska.
I fish year round here in East TN a lot of people stop fishing during the winter.... I love it.....super cold but no traffic
Thank you. I am glad you took time out to tell us about them both. God bless you and your family.....🙏❤🙏❤🙏😊🙂😀
Thank you
Great video just what I was looking for. You did it like a pro
Thanks man
I think the Outback is better. The set in the seating area cannot be beat.
Great comparison..really good video.
Thanks brotha 🤙 just grabbed a camera and went with it....
It depends on the use skinny lakes and river it’s the outback, ocean and big rivers the pro.
I'm looking at the PA14 w/180. I like the rod storage, seat and width. I also plan to bow mount a motor, which I'll use as the primary power source. I kayak mainly lakes and reservoirs
You will love the PA14, I just put the NewPort Vessels NK180 on mine and I'm loving it
Like night and day 👏🏾Great breakdown! Thanks buddy
Thanks brotha
Thanks Josh. I needed this one. I am going to get a pedal kayak at soon. Both of these are on the top of my list. I love the PA, but I love skinny water too, lol.
I'd say a PA12 with kick up fins would works pretty well in the skinny water also!!
@@BASSnBEER Good point! And the PA 12 is awesome!
@Roger Ford there just a little bigger and heavier then other kayaks it's really what you can handle...if it's a ton of shoals may need to go smaller...I'll always have both...my PA's then a really skinny water kayak
@@BASSnBEER Yes! That Outback is superior for "skinny water." I fish small lakes and ponds, and NO moving water (current is my enemy!). But both are awesome!
@@BASSnBEER Right! I fish small lakes and ponds. NO CURRENT! Current is evil. But for skinny water I agree the Outback is awesome. And the kickup fins are great!
Great video! Lots of good tips and advice! Thanks
Thanks man!! Didn't plan it out, just picked up a camera and said exactly what I think about both yaks...thanks for watching 🤙
Good comparison. Switching from PA seat to the Outback seat is really weird lol. Once you get the lift kit for the Outback, let us know what you think. Considering doing the same at some point.
Will do brotha....appreciate it...nothing fancy video wise just kind of spoke what I was thinking about them...hopefully it helps a newbie
That's right about switching and the different seats!
Very good video. Great information
Thanks buddy
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I would prefer the PA , I like the size and all the space for all my gear no leaving anything behind.....just take it all..🙂
Yes I agree with you 100%....I got lucky and ended up with both and both definitely have there advantages
Thank you for the video.
Thank you for watching
How do you store your PA and Outback? I have the compass and it’s not terrible to take off my truck and support upside down on the gunnels resting on crossbars. I would imaging it would be tough to store the pa easily unless you get the cradles from hobie and store it upright on a trailer so the hull doesn’t deform. Ease of loading/unloading is critical to not destroy your back and I find that and the comfort of the seat to be the most important things to me in a kayak.
My PA 12 just sits on a rack on the side of my porch and my PA 14 stays on the trailer 90% of the time! No cradles or anything
I know the PA has the rail system but the plastic mounting track on both kayaks doesnt hold attachments well. Not sure why hobie went cheap on something you really need on a fishing kayak....
Hmmmm I haven't ever had an issue with any of mine and I use them quite a bit
PA for the win BRO!
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Did you ever get the seat raiser kit for the outback? if so how does it perform?
@Rialean I actually did not, ended up selling the Outback
@@BASSnBEER ok, I just bought my first Kayak (an outback) and wondering how well the raisers work.
@Rialean I did add them to another kayak I had previously and loved them, I've got 2 PAs now and the higher seats is one of the main things I love
Hobie is a good kayak ..but 5k-6k for a bare bone kayak is just to much, fully loaded then it would be nice price.. i went got a native slayer 12.5 max maybe i will get a hobie some day
I bought mine used!! I couldn't buy a new either lol
The Native Slayers are extremely nice as well
PA any day and get a trailer
which Bonafide Kayak do you recommend for stand up?
Ss127 is a great kayak
Thanks for the video. Is the PA really 8” taller than the Outback? That’s what I’m seeing for the specs on Hobie’s website, but I’m struggling to see how it can be that much taller. It only looks a couple inches taller. Asking for storage purposes. Thank you.
They may be counting the H rails!!! It's definitely much deeper!! And the width is amazing.....like coming from a tournament perspective, you don't even worry about fish on a measuring board in the PA
Which would you recommend for a 280lb dude who fishes just back country waters?
You talking creeks and really skinny rivers?
@@BASSnBEER sorry the intercoastal and the waterways that shoot off of it. Saltwater and brackish waters.
@@ArizonaMMJ did you get a newer pa14 you're going to have a kick up drive so if you're in shallower water it's going to kick up instead of messing anything up you're going to have way more space in a pa14 or pa-12 your seat sits higher and you've just going to be more comfortable the Outback is great as well but it is a smaller setup the Pas have a 5 and 600 lb weight capacity where the Outback is about 400 450
@@BASSnBEER right on. I need to find a place to go sit in them both and check them out
That's the kind of water I fish - I'm 6'1", 210 but also 66 years old. I have both - an Outback and a PA14. PA goes in the truck first - the stability is phenomenal. Lots of storage space - everything you need and most of what you want. I stand up in it with no issues. It's a beast on land, but a fishing machine on the water. But it's heavy. I use a bed extender, built a rolling cart at truck bed level and have the large Hobie Wheeleez cart so there is no lifting for me. Easy. The 180 works great, unless you are in very confined spaces you won't need the 360.
Neither. too expensive
Buy used!!! And wellllllllll worth the $$$ I'll never buy another kayak
If money doesn’t matter and I want a top notch all around Fishing Kayak is the pa14 360 worth it or just get the 180 drive? Also I will be fishing larger lakes sometimes, but mainly 300 acre lakes and smaller.