I think most people already KNOW the GTD is stupid and not really relevant. My problem with this ZR1 is EVERYONE is going nuts about it and drooling on their crispy white New Balances like it's powered by some super tech we stole from aliens.
Just because most people can't afford a ZR1, doesn't mean it's a stupid car. A lot of people want a super car with massive capabilities and are willing to pay for it, whether they drive it hard, track it, or just cruise around is up to them. Also the C8 ZR1 is a far better package than someone just slapping a big turbo on their LS in their backyard. Reliably making 1064 horsepower with a warranty is an engineering accomplishment. It has more power than a $600,000 plus Lamborghini Revuelto, so to some buyers it does represent a good value.
It's not just about the people can't afford it thing, it's that everyone is making some massive deal over this thing when it's just honestly not. People have been supercharging and twin turboing DOHC Mustangs for YEARS now without issue making similar power levels. Those carry warranties. And that's WITHOUT a flat plane crank and capability to spin to 8,000RPM effortlessly. Don't get me started on the stupidity of Supercar stuff and how it no longer matters. They are purely just rich people jewelry at this point.
@@AutomotiveAdventuresWithAustinthe fact you said mustang is crazy. You can do that to any car but will it have a warranty or break track records on pump gas
I am just thankful manufacturers are still thinking about performance and pushing the envelope. Think about it, the Corvette is the ONLY car Chevrolet makes at this point. The Mustang is the only car Ford makes. Mopar makes no cars. No cars = little opportunity for performance/enthusiast vehicles.
The only thing I like about it is the fact that the US can build a car that can kick ass on any Ferrari lembo and McLaren and those people are the few that could afford a ZR1 Z06 is good enough. I still prefer my 70 chevelle SS with its LS5 over any on these any eay
I mean. I guess. There are thousands of 1000hp LS Corvettes out there that go fast in a straight line if that's all you are looking for, and they don't cost $200,000+
Some of these comments are ridiculous. I want to see these other powered up old cars do everything this one can, efficiently with a warranty. Any build can go fast in a straight line
You don't have to worry about it if you can't afford it there are many people that can't afford it and do race them these cars are going to be competing with Porsche Lamborghini cars that you can afford to buy either I still love my Chevys
Well, if you think the ZR1 is stupid, wait until they bring out the C8 Corvette Zora! I suspect it will be ZR1 and E Ray hybrid which will be 1200+ hp and push over the $200,000 price range.
I'll be quite honest with you, I would totally have been fine with Chevy bringing out a Zora, NOT calling it a Corvette and just targeting it straight at the hyper car market. Keep the Corvette what it's always been, make the mid engine real wheel drive all the bells and whistles and bluster something totally different. Like the GT40 for example!
@@AutomotiveAdventuresWithAustin I hear ya Austin and you're right, Corvette was never meant to be a supercar competing with million dollar F1s wrapped in a composite skinned street car. Don't get me wrong, I love Corvettes and have since I was about 5 years old (1962) and have owned a C3-427, C5 FRC, ,C6Z, C7Z, but the Corvette has gotten away from "sports car for the every man" image and has really moved closer to the rarefied air of Ferrari, Lambo and McLaren. With ZR! and Zora, it will out of reach for most "every men."
I'm an authority on all kinds of things, just ask me ;) Don't let the classic cars and big grey beard fool you, I play in the modern performance game a LOT and have for decades. I just don't choose to drive them myself.
He's a real enthusiast and not some idiot with deep pockets and a small dick syndrome. If you like the new vettes good for you, just shows you also have no taste in good cars
So you’re still pissed Pontiac went out of business ?! Me too ! 😂 I’m with you. They do away with the Camaro but can build a limited run of cars that only millionaires can afford. Bring back an SS Chevelle 👍🏻
1000% exactly what I'm talking about here. You build a car that NO normal person can afford, build it to power levels that 99% of owners will NEVER use, and yippee good for you. OR you could have taken the tech and experience learned and poured it into a small fun enjoyable AFFORDABLE car that actual enthusiasts would like and enjoy. And I'm not just saying this as a Pontiac nut, you can put an Oldsmobile badge on it or a Saturn badge on it, I don't care just build something fun and relevant!
I agree! Most folks driving today have no clue as to whatever vehicle they own can do and no clue how to use it. One of my first jobs out of high school was for a local Pontiac dealer way back in 1963. I got to drive some really exciting cars. What do I drive for fun today? A 1966 Corvair 180HP four speed turbo convertible. No nanny bullshit.
I love this video. I think it's funny that they're going to come out with a Corvette making that kind of horsepower. I agree only people that have a lot of money will be able to buy one and it is going to sit in the garage or their collection. I was just at a pretty cool car show over the weekend and now I guarantee there was well over 200 cars. I took a lot of pictures because I love cars and not one Corvette did I take a picture of because I'm not a fan of riding in a go-kart. And I agree with you you're about bringing back Pontiac or even Oldsmobile the Cutlass the 442 would be a great comeback would also be a cool ass car to bring back. What a shame Chevy won't sponsor you now because of this video it probably hurt what is in there panties
Listen GM, if you are out there, and watching my stuff, bring me somewhere, feed me lunch, and I'll happily change my tune once I've driven the car and experienced what it is. I'll also happily build LT6/LT7 powered cars if you are footing the bill! You know how to reach me! One of my biggest criticisms of modern cars is the "Playstationification" of modern performance, the cars are SO good, and SO smart, that someone barely capable of using a left turn signal can drive them pretty hard. The sensors and feedback and computers can compensate SO well. But it decreases the driving experience, in my opinion, the car is doing a lot of the actual DRIVING you are more piloting with assistance. Bring back some smaller cooler interesting nicely style attractive cars without all the assistance, bring back enthusiast cars, that enthusiast can actually AFFORD. I don't care what the brand it flies under is, but bring out a 400hp turbo real wheel drive stick shift fun car for less than $40,000 and you will sell them by the truckload. Bring back a Chevelle/442/GTO with a 400ci or 455ci LS based motor, with door sills you can put your arm out of, and make it less than $60,000 and you have another winner on your hands. I don't care if my car has parking assist, and radar, and that I can order tacos from the center console to be delivered to me.
I see both points to the ZR1. I have always thought, why not for the masses so all can enjoy. I love my Camaro SS. And now, no more Camaro. Why? I see them all over the place so I know they sold well.
I haven't watched this yet, but if your title is true i just lost all respect for you. GM just said "fuck you" to every hypercar maker and i love it. The ZR1 is insane, stunning, a masterpiece. Fastest production american V8. You're the ONLY person I've seen talk bad about it.
Heres the problem, It's a one trick pony for people with deep pockets. JUST like the mustang LTD, which isn't any better in this case. Hypercar manufacturers have sucked for YEARS their cars aren't really all that great they're usually a lot of plastic with fancy body lines and a motor that isn't well balanced with the platform, which is the problem that this new corvette has. Because like austin says in the video, it's a platform built for cornering with a high power, high torque v8 strapped to it. Only very experienced drivers have the ability to handle that kind of power around a track. Otherwise it's only good for going fast in a straight line and bragging at your local cars and coffee. It's stupid because of it's impracticality, AND 1000+ HP is not really that new, I mean Hennesey Performance has been building built stingrays for some time that could clean this cars clock. It's all a matter of perspective. The people that this car is going to be marketed to are guys that have seen more trips around the sun than I have Movies in my lifetime. A lot of the guys in that category don't have much experience driving cars with that kinda power, and so this car is nothing but a gimmick designed by GM to dip into those old guy's wallets, and get people buying OTHER GM products to inflate their stock values.
@@MLCAPEthe point of the car is to be great at both, doesn’t mean that every single driver needs to be capable of pushing it that hard. Even Porsches have the same issue! Not every driver needs to be able to handle all the power, I’ve driven a 911 turbo s and had the back end slip out on me, and guess what? I’m not a professional driver, so why would your point make any sense? It’s capable of what hypercars are capable of, and a really good driver can handle its full power,
@@genesis4k You don't have to agree with me, just because you feel differently doesnt' make me wrong. Doesnt make you wrong either. See you missed the comment in there where I said "It's all a matter of perspective"
1,000 hp really isn’t even impressive anymore. But I do agree most people that “think” they need 1,000hp have never driven 500 hp. The insane part is the price they want for them. A LS with a eBay turbo in a $1,000 shit box will do that. Same to be said with a coyote, add turbo and stuff it into a old F100 Save the money and keep old iron Alvie.
In one breath, "you cant modify it" easily (turbo / manifold replacement). In another breath, its too fast for the avg buyer. Make up your mind! Also... its 1000hp on 93gas. You want to modify? Change fuel and tune it. Make 1100-1200 easy. Done.
I'm totally fine with being unpopular as long as people also understand I'm being honest and telling it how I see it. If kids still bought posters, it would be a poster car. That's it.
Rick Hendricks will more than likely have the first one it will probably be at Barrett Jackson like all the number one serial numbers are then the ones they drive will in up totaled in the junk yards like a lot of the high horsepower cars did when they first came out
Oh I'm sure it will do the whole "auctioned for charity" thing without a doubt. Then the lions share of these will either end up in ditches/COPART auctions, or in rich guy garages. I hope I'm wrong, I reallllly hope I'm wrong. But I highly highly doubt it.
Yep. And Chevy can puff out their chest while the entire automotive community pats them on the back and fluffs their pillows for all the "great achievements"
I totally agree with ya austin....they should have definitely brought back pontiac...long ago...but that's my opinion....I'm a diehard Pontiac person....but prolly never happen sad to say😢😢😢
@AutomotiveAdventuresWithAustin The milestone (s) is/are that anyone can buy it. It can be driven daily, it doesn't require race gas (93 octane = 1064hp), it has practical accommodations like a trunk and AC, it comes with a warranty, it's on a proven and tested platform (not a one-off), its drivable in multiple environments from snow to dessert to hot areas, support will be at most Chevy service centers, it is more powerful than the foreign competition (Lamborghini,Ferrari etc), it will cost way less than a comparable performance car... I could go on and on, but I'm sure there's a limit on the word count here. All that I can say in the end is that there's more positives to this car than negatives. American ingenious is alive and well. This is what makes America 🇺🇸 Great 👍🏽. We'll always do it better for less... MERICA🫡🇺🇸
The limits of tire and traction are going to be a massive limiting factor for this thing without a doubt. Big question will be can the CAR take the hit on a drag slick with a prepped surface? I'm sure there will be a TH-camr or two who will find out for us. On street tires? Even a GREAT street tire? Good luck.
@@556m4 oh it's going to have to for sure, the computing power and traction needed to keep that crazy thing on the road on ANY kind of street tire is going to be immense for sure!
Did this guy really say bring back the Fiero a fun car that’s a kind of intelligence this guy is dealing with all those cars put together would not add up to ZR one Corvette
Like I said before....not everyone is a race car driver and could handle the power of this car. GM is designing cars that look great because they want you to buy ev's. Its all silly because they took the money from the govt. and cant design anything else.Does anyone remember the accident in Cali where the wr from the Las Vegas raiders killed a young woman and her dog because he couldnt controll a corvette.We've gone insane in this country.Oh....by the way most speed limit signs are 70-75 mph on the highway.What a waste for the other 125 on the odometer.,.... stupid just stupid.
@AutomotiveAdventuresWithAustin yea what people don't seem ro understand is they have way more problems than we do. They just have money problems. I wouldn't mind having the no money problems it's just all of the other caos I can live with out lol.
I was still cool with them in the C6 generation because they were outright FANTASTIC cars and incredibly capable, but after that... not a fan. And definitely not of this C8 thing. Maybe if they had called it something other than a Corvette and put it above in the lineup, and just left the Corvette in it's spot to do what it did.
I really would like a 2025 ZR1 but I just checked my wallet and I only have maxed out credit cards and $45 in cash. Thanks to all the taxes we have in Canada! California is probably a cheaper place to live 😂
Hey when those cars are sitting around when the get older they might be a little cheaper if they get neglected by the old people that baught them , and I disagree there are young TH-camrs that make enough to buy one and possibly destroy it for content . If I could I would buy an older Corvette even a 3rd or 4th gen .and new balance shoes pret good and my type 2 diabetic butt has worn them for years , I'm not rich and everything I own needs something fixed . Lol I'm in my mid 50's but an old school metalhead who still owns a 1972 NovaSS that I baught in 1993 when I was a dishwasher at ponderosa. But yeah the pricing of vehicles is way out of hand and unrealistic for us normal folk .
The days of affordable fun manual enthusiast cars are over unless you like a 4 banger turbo. The market isn't there the enthusiast car audience are a bunch of cheap skates where finding a reason to put down 50k+ on what's usually a toy is not easy, we tend to go used or make what we want unless your rich of course and want to put 150k + down for a track weapon like a 911 GT3. Pontiac should stay dead they will just end up with the same crap that is post 2012 GM seems many will be disappointed if Pontiac does return 75% of there lineup will be the same FWD based AWD 50k 4 cylinder turbo or hybrid suv's let the dead rest.
Thanks for loving the content first off! The LT5 in the ZR1 of that Era was essentially a Lotus race motor they handed off to GM, it WAS DOHC, it kind of sort of had a variable valve setup, but most definitely wasn't flat plane crank. Some people HAVE modified them to use ones in the aftermarket but as far as I'm aware all of those came with a standard crank design. Unless you can provide me a rabbit hole to dive down, which I will!
Isn't your argument pretty irrelevant? You speak as if this product was created for the mainstream. It will massively undercut vehicles with similar power ratings, and the owners will most likely have the skills to manage it or be willing to pay for the instruction?
Sure, traction control what about it? Every single car built in the last 2 decades has traction control, does that keep them from crashing? Almost NONE of them make anywhere near this level of power. What makes it so amazing and exciting? Just purely that it makes 1000+ hp? People have been doing that in LS powered cars for years and years already
Chevrolet's 5.5 Liter Flat plane crank is nothing like Mustangs. Tell me you're not a mechanic without telling me you're not a mechanic. But i bet you're a big Mustang GTD fan boy. $300,000+ car that by your logic makes as much sense as a ZR1. Go admire and talk about your "motors".
Corvette have just gone crazy but not crazyer than mopar with getting rid of the hemi and the average guy can't buy a new foor door gm car anymore that is fast enough to have fun but still only cost 20k to buy I don't get why gm can't make that
I'm thoroughly confused about Mopar and what they are doing for sure, it's... very odd. To go away from everything the brand has represented for the last what 2 decades now? Idk, I would love to know the math behind it that makes sense. But to a red blooded muscle car American it makes very little sense.
The only reason it has that much power is because it’s twin turbo. So what? It’s still ugly, the C8 looks like a new Camaro got rear ended by a Ferrari…. 🤮…. I’ll stick to my rusty ‘03 Silverado with 190k miles lol
Twin turbo, and reportedly something like 20psi of boost! So that means NA it makes what 400hp? Out of a 5.5 liter flat plane crank V8 that spins to 8,000 RPM!? The Ford 5.2 would like to have a word with you Chevy
what I understand from this video is Jealousy, envy and hate cause its going to demolish all Mustangs and the 500k Ford GT take that to the Bank and collect the interest.
Absolutely not. No electric vehicles in my fleet at all. I WOULD love a fun enjoyable little American sports car though that isn't $50,000 though if you please
I'm glad someone had a set to say something. I agree 100%.. I got a 94 s10ss that I built LS powered that hangs with them high dollar factory cars and it's a blast. In the summer I drive it back and forth to work. Got a sticker on the back "Built Not Bought " LOL
No, it's not about that at all. It's about everyone pretending this is some ground breaking spaceship of a car that's going to change the world. NONE of this is new tech. Ford has had a flat plane crank DOHC V8 for YEARS, look at the GT350. From that to this is simple, lower compression, add boost and fuel. Done. It's also a vehicle that will NEVER be driven anywhere near it's potential by 99% of the people who buy it. So it's a D measuring vehicle pure and simple. Some of us don't need to measure.
@@AutomotiveAdventuresWithAustin no rumors we’re spending back when the C6 came out about Chevrolet going the way of exotic cars. This has been the direction for a long time. C8 Z cars were built for a certain demographic, it’s not a blue collar workers car anymore. He’ll pick up trucks are barely a blue collar man’s vehicle anymore. I don’t worry about what ppl have, I can make legitimate money like the next man. There are too many ways to make it in America you just have to have the stones and drive to get there. A man by definition does not blame other for his shortcomings let the females gossip and finger point.
Exactly! 1000hp pump gas LS without all the fancy stuff is doable by guys in their detached garages behind their houses in $1500 shitboxes. Unless this thing also magically gets 35mpg while cruising
@@kjffoster1289 so what? It won't be sold to people who can handle it, and it's nothing special tech wise. Throwing twin turbos on a V8 is pretty simple math
@@bullycat_kickz5198 I mean... ok. I guess? You can buy a 800hp Mustang straight from the dealer for $50,000.. and it comes with a warranty, you've been able to buy them for years. For a quarter of the price of a new ZR1
People made fun of the Corvette when the GMC Syclone like you had out ran the Corvette. Now they build the fastest Corvette ever and you’re complaining? The 2023 Dodge Demon 170 is 1,025 horsepower and those were on Power Tour. So all the things you talked about having to spend money to make the Challenger hook and book is true. But the Corvette is a turn key car. Someone comes on Power Tour in a GT40 that’s worth $250,000-$300,000? I bet in the next 3 years one of those ZR-1’s will be on Power Tour. This is not a bad thing that GM is putting money in the development and performance vehicles. Not everyone has the skills and abilities to build a car on their own. If someone wants to spend $200,000 that’s their business. I watch all your videos and love your channels but I disagree on the hate of a Corvette. I like my New Balance Shoes they are very comfortable.
First off, let me say thank you for watching and supporting the channels, and we are totally allowed to disagree. Secondly, I absolutely LOVE this comment and that your handle is "WVCorvetteMan", you sir, are awesome and I appreciate it! Also, no offense to your New Balance shoes, they ARE quite comfortable! ;) The Corvette vs Syclone thing is such a crazy situation and story that almost no one knows, or is interested in knowing. What's truly crazy is how hobbled it was from the factory or it would have absolutely obliterated the Corvette, but that would have been very very bad for PR. The Demon makes those numbers on e85, which is "cheater race gas". The Corvette does it on pump 93, but they are using the advantage of modern technology, if by modern I mean developed mostly in the last 25 years. Most of those Demons, will NEVER be driven at 100%, they are impossible to hook up on street tires. Even a Hellcat on street tires is near impossible to hook up on street tires. I'll without my judgement of that on the 'Vette until I see one in the wild but unless there's some crazy compound coming out, or these have a 345+ rear tire on them a 1000hp street car is just missile with a license plate on it. We'll see, I've been wrong before. Maybe I'll be wrong again.
Thanks for the reply! I agree we are still buddies. We don’t have to Agree on everything. Another thing I thought of is 1990 a ZR-1 was $70,000. When you calculate for inflation that’s $170,000 in today’s dollars. There is a 1990 ZR-1 at a car lot by my house that has 1800 miles in it and I think they want about $37,000. Maybe I can pick up one of these models half price in the future! :) To be honest I’m just happy it’s a gasoline engine and not more of the E-Ray stuff. Just remember not all Corvette dudes are pricks.
I like the look of the new Vette but you're absolutely right that there's no room under the hood (or is it the trunk?). Back in the day we used to say the Vette was stupid because it rode like a dump truck. The big block version was even worse. If a chick sat on the old Vette it would crack the fiberglass. Honestly, I've been looking for a good deal on a used mid-engine Vette but folks are asking crazy prices. Since this will be a collectors item (because of the 1K horsepower), most of them will end up sitting in garages. In my humble opinion, buying a car to sit in the garage for 20 years or more is stupid. If I had the money I'd buy one and drive the wheels off it. I'm working for GM now trying to get the CDK software issues resolved, and I might be able to get you a new ZR1 if you change your mind. Bowling Green is only a day's drive from your house, maybe you could do a video or two from the factory. Anything would be better than the bleached blonde bimbos that call themselves "influencers" talking about the new Vette. I can't stand chicks who don't know how to wrench getting to promote the new supercars. Hell, I think Supercar Blondie is my age. That's why she never gets close to the camera any more. Send GM an email, I'll bet they hook you up with a two day pass. Love the "get off my lawn" reference. Stay cool dude!
Bingo. I love power, I like to go fast in all forms. But this is just pure stupidity and going to be purchased by people who won't ever use, or can't handle the power levels this thing turns out.
I am a Pontiac guy. I did own a 1974 Corvette with a 454, 4 speed and 410 gearing. It was a nice car but did not make me fall in love with it. Bought it with 27,000 miles sold it 15 years later with 32,000 miles. If I had that $250,000 to spend, I don't. I would buy a 69 Ram Air IV Trans Am and a 1973 SD-455 Trans am The last good looking Corvette was 73 with the chrome rear bumper. My 74 looked good in the front but not the back. The new one you are talking about, I would tell me dog to go wee wee on the wheels.
Ohhh don't get me started on all the things Cadillac has done/almost done and fumbled :( But variable valve timing has been around a long long long time at this point.
That's 100% correct, it's something rich dudes will buy to brag about to other rich dudes while driving the speed limit to the country club. OR whatever the modern equivalent of that is. I would have been MUCH more excited about a mid engine real wheel drive $45,000 sports car, that actual people might actually purchase.
@@AutomotiveAdventuresWithAustin you need to learn the facts before arriving at stupid conclusions. The facts are easily obtained. Like the fact that this ZR1 is a mid engine setup just like the Ford GT which sells for a million dollars. Oh BTW, the ford has a 6 banger that is not even designed by Ford.
The most boomer video I’ve seen. Can’t believe anyone would be mad at a car like this. That’s what everyone dreams of car manufacturers building.
Literally not a boomer nor even close to it. And no this is absolutely NOT what everyone dreams of manufacturers building
Are you going to comment on the mustang GTD and how stupid it is too? It’s $350,000 plus. That’s really stupid for a fucking mustang.
I think most people already KNOW the GTD is stupid and not really relevant. My problem with this ZR1 is EVERYONE is going nuts about it and drooling on their crispy white New Balances like it's powered by some super tech we stole from aliens.
Just because most people can't afford a ZR1, doesn't mean it's a stupid car. A lot of people want a super car with massive capabilities and are willing to pay for it, whether they drive it hard, track it, or just cruise around is up to them. Also the C8 ZR1 is a far better package than someone just slapping a big turbo on their LS in their backyard. Reliably making 1064 horsepower with a warranty is an engineering accomplishment. It has more power than a $600,000 plus Lamborghini Revuelto, so to some buyers it does represent a good value.
It's not just about the people can't afford it thing, it's that everyone is making some massive deal over this thing when it's just honestly not. People have been supercharging and twin turboing DOHC Mustangs for YEARS now without issue making similar power levels. Those carry warranties. And that's WITHOUT a flat plane crank and capability to spin to 8,000RPM effortlessly.
Don't get me started on the stupidity of Supercar stuff and how it no longer matters. They are purely just rich people jewelry at this point.
He's just pissed that Chevy crapped all over Mustang. Another missed off Mustang GTD fan boy. I bet Austin was slobbering all over that one.
@@AutomotiveAdventuresWithAustinthe fact you said mustang is crazy. You can do that to any car but will it have a warranty or break track records on pump gas
I always laugh every time I’m reminded Lamborghini is making a car called the “Omlette”
I am just thankful manufacturers are still thinking about performance and pushing the envelope. Think about it, the Corvette is the ONLY car Chevrolet makes at this point. The Mustang is the only car Ford makes. Mopar makes no cars. No cars = little opportunity for performance/enthusiast vehicles.
The only thing I like about it is the fact that the US can build a car that can kick ass on any Ferrari lembo and McLaren and those people are the few that could afford a ZR1 Z06 is good enough. I still prefer my 70 chevelle SS with its LS5 over any on these any eay
I'm glad GM did this its fantastic and its going to be extremely fast in a strait line.
I mean. I guess. There are thousands of 1000hp LS Corvettes out there that go fast in a straight line if that's all you are looking for, and they don't cost $200,000+
Some of these comments are ridiculous. I want to see these other powered up old cars do everything this one can, efficiently with a warranty. Any build can go fast in a straight line
You don't have to worry about it if you can't afford it there are many people that can't afford it and do race them these cars are going to be competing with Porsche Lamborghini cars that you can afford to buy either I still love my Chevys
Well, if you think the ZR1 is stupid, wait until they bring out the C8 Corvette Zora! I suspect it will be ZR1 and E Ray hybrid which will be 1200+ hp and push over the $200,000 price range.
I'll be quite honest with you, I would totally have been fine with Chevy bringing out a Zora, NOT calling it a Corvette and just targeting it straight at the hyper car market. Keep the Corvette what it's always been, make the mid engine real wheel drive all the bells and whistles and bluster something totally different. Like the GT40 for example!
Everything that Chevrolet has made in the last 5 years has been a joke at best. Worst brand of junk out there unless its older
@@damianlindsey6177 I guess I'm safe then, I'm past the 5 year mark with a 2018 C7 Z06 3LZ 😁
@@AutomotiveAdventuresWithAustin I hear ya Austin and you're right, Corvette was never meant to be a supercar competing with million dollar F1s wrapped in a composite skinned street car. Don't get me wrong, I love Corvettes and have since I was about 5 years old (1962) and have owned a C3-427, C5 FRC, ,C6Z, C7Z, but the Corvette has gotten away from "sports car for the every man" image and has really moved closer to the rarefied air of Ferrari, Lambo and McLaren. With ZR! and Zora, it will out of reach for most "every men."
Id rather have a 2019 ZR1 myself. Own a 2015 Stingray. Still get compliments on a 9 year old car.
The affordable days are over! BIDENOMICS IS REAL.
no affordable enthusiast car have been dying for 15 years a mustang GT is 60k let that sink in.
Oh look, it's this guy.
It's been dying a long long time WAY before the current or former administrations
I m just curious as to when you become the authority on new cars. . Bring back the J cars and you can tell us how great they are.
I'm an authority on all kinds of things, just ask me ;) Don't let the classic cars and big grey beard fool you, I play in the modern performance game a LOT and have for decades. I just don't choose to drive them myself.
He's a real enthusiast and not some idiot with deep pockets and a small dick syndrome. If you like the new vettes good for you, just shows you also have no taste in good cars
Once he said yea it exists great cool 😂 I knew it was a money issue for him. Kinda felt embarrass for him he sounded super jealous.
Lol yep it's definitely a money issue. Ahh internet trolls
So you’re still pissed Pontiac went out of business ?! Me too ! 😂 I’m with you. They do away with the Camaro but can build a limited run of cars that only millionaires can afford. Bring back an SS Chevelle 👍🏻
1000% exactly what I'm talking about here. You build a car that NO normal person can afford, build it to power levels that 99% of owners will NEVER use, and yippee good for you. OR you could have taken the tech and experience learned and poured it into a small fun enjoyable AFFORDABLE car that actual enthusiasts would like and enjoy. And I'm not just saying this as a Pontiac nut, you can put an Oldsmobile badge on it or a Saturn badge on it, I don't care just build something fun and relevant!
@@garyhodges8173 rumor is the Chief is coming back.
I agree! Most folks driving today have no clue as to whatever vehicle they own can do and no clue how to use it. One of my first jobs out of high school was for a local Pontiac dealer way back in 1963. I got to drive some really exciting cars. What do I drive for fun today? A 1966 Corvair 180HP four speed turbo convertible. No nanny bullshit.
I love this video. I think it's funny that they're going to come out with a Corvette making that kind of horsepower. I agree only people that have a lot of money will be able to buy one and it is going to sit in the garage or their collection. I was just at a pretty cool car show over the weekend and now I guarantee there was well over 200 cars. I took a lot of pictures because I love cars and not one Corvette did I take a picture of because I'm not a fan of riding in a go-kart. And I agree with you you're about bringing back Pontiac or even Oldsmobile the Cutlass the 442 would be a great comeback would also be a cool ass car to bring back. What a shame Chevy won't sponsor you now because of this video it probably hurt what is in there panties
Listen GM, if you are out there, and watching my stuff, bring me somewhere, feed me lunch, and I'll happily change my tune once I've driven the car and experienced what it is. I'll also happily build LT6/LT7 powered cars if you are footing the bill! You know how to reach me!
One of my biggest criticisms of modern cars is the "Playstationification" of modern performance, the cars are SO good, and SO smart, that someone barely capable of using a left turn signal can drive them pretty hard. The sensors and feedback and computers can compensate SO well. But it decreases the driving experience, in my opinion, the car is doing a lot of the actual DRIVING you are more piloting with assistance.
Bring back some smaller cooler interesting nicely style attractive cars without all the assistance, bring back enthusiast cars, that enthusiast can actually AFFORD. I don't care what the brand it flies under is, but bring out a 400hp turbo real wheel drive stick shift fun car for less than $40,000 and you will sell them by the truckload. Bring back a Chevelle/442/GTO with a 400ci or 455ci LS based motor, with door sills you can put your arm out of, and make it less than $60,000 and you have another winner on your hands. I don't care if my car has parking assist, and radar, and that I can order tacos from the center console to be delivered to me.
I see both points to the ZR1. I have always thought, why not for the masses so all can enjoy. I love my Camaro SS. And now, no more Camaro. Why? I see them all over the place so I know they sold well.
LOVE YOUR VIEW ON THIS AND I TOTALLY AGREE!!😂😂😂
Thank you Eric glad to have you on my side!
Old man yells at cloud
Get off my lawn!
I haven't watched this yet, but if your title is true i just lost all respect for you. GM just said "fuck you" to every hypercar maker and i love it. The ZR1 is insane, stunning, a masterpiece. Fastest production american V8. You're the ONLY person I've seen talk bad about it.
Heres the problem, It's a one trick pony for people with deep pockets. JUST like the mustang LTD, which isn't any better in this case. Hypercar manufacturers have sucked for YEARS their cars aren't really all that great they're usually a lot of plastic with fancy body lines and a motor that isn't well balanced with the platform, which is the problem that this new corvette has. Because like austin says in the video, it's a platform built for cornering with a high power, high torque v8 strapped to it. Only very experienced drivers have the ability to handle that kind of power around a track. Otherwise it's only good for going fast in a straight line and bragging at your local cars and coffee. It's stupid because of it's impracticality, AND 1000+ HP is not really that new, I mean Hennesey Performance has been building built stingrays for some time that could clean this cars clock. It's all a matter of perspective. The people that this car is going to be marketed to are guys that have seen more trips around the sun than I have Movies in my lifetime. A lot of the guys in that category don't have much experience driving cars with that kinda power, and so this car is nothing but a gimmick designed by GM to dip into those old guy's wallets, and get people buying OTHER GM products to inflate their stock values.
@@MLCAPEthe point of the car is to be great at both, doesn’t mean that every single driver needs to be capable of pushing it that hard. Even Porsches have the same issue! Not every driver needs to be able to handle all the power, I’ve driven a 911 turbo s and had the back end slip out on me, and guess what? I’m not a professional driver, so why would your point make any sense? It’s capable of what hypercars are capable of, and a really good driver can handle its full power,
@@genesis4k You don't have to agree with me, just because you feel differently doesnt' make me wrong. Doesnt make you wrong either. See you missed the comment in there where I said "It's all a matter of perspective"
@@MLCAPE well then I love you because I totally did miss that. 🤝🏻
1,000 hp really isn’t even impressive anymore. But I do agree most people that “think” they need 1,000hp have never driven 500 hp.
The insane part is the price they want for them. A LS with a eBay turbo in a $1,000 shit box will do that. Same to be said with a coyote, add turbo and stuff it into a old F100
Save the money and keep old iron Alvie.
HOWdy Austin,
Thanks for the HEADS-UP
Hilarious !!!
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1988 Callaway Corvette Sledgehammer 5.7L 898hp 250mph 30+ years ago.
Right. It's not rocket science. Build the motor to handle boost, give it boost, and bang done. Yippe. Congratulations.
Whoa Whoa Whoa!!! What's wrong with New Balance Shoes???? Best shoes to wear with Jorts and a polo shirts
Lol they DO help bring the whole outfit together for sure! ;)
@@AutomotiveAdventuresWithAustin Ive been rocking NBs since basic training LOL
Agreed. The Z06 is perfect. The ZR1 is for the rich who will never use it to it's full potential.
Exactly. And most people will NEVER reach the driving limits of a Z06, even on track. This is just pure vanity and bragging rights.
In one breath, "you cant modify it" easily (turbo / manifold replacement).
In another breath, its too fast for the avg buyer.
Make up your mind! Also... its 1000hp on 93gas. You want to modify? Change fuel and tune it. Make 1100-1200 easy. Done.
Good video. It’s a shame to see the Cyclone sitting outside. Have a great day Austin
It’s a dirty job, but someone’s got to say it!😂🤣 I do agree! Does not make sense except for PR🎉
I'm totally fine with being unpopular as long as people also understand I'm being honest and telling it how I see it. If kids still bought posters, it would be a poster car. That's it.
you have a ford capri ? wow !! , keep up the good word
Hmmmm would you believe... 4 or 5 of them? ;)
@@AutomotiveAdventuresWithAustin wow , i am originally from england , but i now live in florida . never owned a capri back then
Rick Hendricks will more than likely have the first one it will probably be at Barrett Jackson like all the number one serial numbers are then the ones they drive will in up totaled in the junk yards like a lot of the high horsepower cars did when they first came out
Oh I'm sure it will do the whole "auctioned for charity" thing without a doubt. Then the lions share of these will either end up in ditches/COPART auctions, or in rich guy garages. I hope I'm wrong, I reallllly hope I'm wrong. But I highly highly doubt it.
@AutomotiveAdventuresWithAustin I think you are perfectly right on just like the challengers, mustang,chargers and camaros did
Pontiac was the more luxurious version of the Chevrolet without spending Buick or Cadillac money. I agree bring it back
Couldn't agree more....most of them will probably be driven from cruise- in to cruise- in by wealthy idiots
Yep. And Chevy can puff out their chest while the entire automotive community pats them on the back and fluffs their pillows for all the "great achievements"
I totally agree with ya austin....they should have definitely brought back pontiac...long ago...but that's my opinion....I'm a diehard Pontiac person....but prolly never happen sad to say😢😢😢
Whatever you say... NOT!
Well, here we go 🙄, another opinion on a great milestone for the people. It's just like it's said, "opinions are as numerous as a$$hz01s"😂
What's the "great milestone for the people" about this? Just that it broke 1000hp?
@AutomotiveAdventuresWithAustin The milestone (s) is/are that anyone can buy it. It can be driven daily, it doesn't require race gas (93 octane = 1064hp), it has practical accommodations like a trunk and AC, it comes with a warranty, it's on a proven and tested platform (not a one-off), its drivable in multiple environments from snow to dessert to hot areas, support will be at most Chevy service centers, it is more powerful than the foreign competition (Lamborghini,Ferrari etc), it will cost way less than a comparable performance car... I could go on and on, but I'm sure there's a limit on the word count here. All that I can say in the end is that there's more positives to this car than negatives. American ingenious is alive and well. This is what makes America 🇺🇸 Great 👍🏽. We'll always do it better for less... MERICA🫡🇺🇸
They should have at least made it all wheel drive. Two tires can’t handle that power unless they’re drag slicks on a prepped surface.
The limits of tire and traction are going to be a massive limiting factor for this thing without a doubt. Big question will be can the CAR take the hit on a drag slick with a prepped surface? I'm sure there will be a TH-camr or two who will find out for us.
On street tires? Even a GREAT street tire? Good luck.
@@AutomotiveAdventuresWithAustin I’m assuming it’s going to have some severe traction control, especially off the line and when turning.
@@556m4 oh it's going to have to for sure, the computing power and traction needed to keep that crazy thing on the road on ANY kind of street tire is going to be immense for sure!
"No one needs that kind of power"...no one "needs" a sports car period...not sure what your on about in this video...did a corvette hurt you?
Did this guy really say bring back the Fiero a fun car that’s a kind of intelligence this guy is dealing with all those cars put together would not add up to ZR one Corvette
Like I said before....not everyone is a race car driver and could handle the power of this car. GM is designing cars that look great because they want you to buy ev's. Its all silly because they took the money from the govt. and cant design anything else.Does anyone remember the accident in Cali where the wr from the Las Vegas raiders killed a young woman and her dog because he couldnt controll a corvette.We've gone insane in this country.Oh....by the way most speed limit signs are 70-75 mph on the highway.What a waste for the other 125 on the odometer.,.... stupid just stupid.
Miss Oldsmobile. Got a Volvo. Having beard envy. Yours will be perfectly white by the time the holidays are here.
I'll take the '91 Sy in the background.
Can you imagine how much the insurance will cost?
Excellent point, but these will also likely only be purchased by people who don't care about what the insurance cost is.
@@AutomotiveAdventuresWithAustin That's true Too lol
@@GrandPitoVic rich people problems ;)
@AutomotiveAdventuresWithAustin yea what people don't seem ro understand is they have way more problems than we do. They just have money problems. I wouldn't mind having the no money problems it's just all of the other caos I can live with out lol.
180k? The Z06 can be optioned over 180k.
The Corvette ended when they did away with the hide away head lights.
I was still cool with them in the C6 generation because they were outright FANTASTIC cars and incredibly capable, but after that... not a fan. And definitely not of this C8 thing. Maybe if they had called it something other than a Corvette and put it above in the lineup, and just left the Corvette in it's spot to do what it did.
They started without them.
At least it’s better looking than a Mustang the new Vette will cook a lot of supper cars
I really would like a 2025 ZR1 but I just checked my wallet and I only have maxed out credit cards and $45 in cash. Thanks to all the taxes we have in Canada! California is probably a cheaper place to live 😂
mid engine..super dialed in stability control programming....It wont be hard to handle.
Won't be hard to handle? Just because the car is smarter than the driver? Possibly.
Hey when those cars are sitting around when the get older they might be a little cheaper if they get neglected by the old people that baught them , and I disagree there are young TH-camrs that make enough to buy one and possibly destroy it for content . If I could I would buy an older Corvette even a 3rd or 4th gen .and new balance shoes pret good and my type 2 diabetic butt has worn them for years , I'm not rich and everything I own needs something fixed . Lol I'm in my mid 50's but an old school metalhead who still owns a 1972 NovaSS that I baught in 1993 when I was a dishwasher at ponderosa. But yeah the pricing of vehicles is way out of hand and unrealistic for us normal folk .
Dude...youre gonna get hate for this. I am too! I hate it also.
Drug dealers will be doing dounuts in intersections with them...Thats about the most you'll see them...
OR people who stole them... to do donuts in intersections
You guys realize that other supercars are still way more expensive...you see Mclarens and Porsche 911's around...Why not the ZR 1s?
The days of affordable fun manual enthusiast cars are over unless you like a 4 banger turbo. The market isn't there the enthusiast car audience are a bunch of cheap skates where finding a reason to put down 50k+ on what's usually a toy is not easy, we tend to go used or make what we want unless your rich of course and want to put 150k + down for a track weapon like a 911 GT3. Pontiac should stay dead they will just end up with the same crap that is post 2012 GM seems many will be disappointed if Pontiac does return 75% of there lineup will be the same FWD based AWD 50k 4 cylinder turbo or hybrid suv's let the dead rest.
Love your content, but the 1990s ZR1 Corvette LT5 engines were double overhead cammed, variable timing, flat plane engines.
Thanks for loving the content first off! The LT5 in the ZR1 of that Era was essentially a Lotus race motor they handed off to GM, it WAS DOHC, it kind of sort of had a variable valve setup, but most definitely wasn't flat plane crank. Some people HAVE modified them to use ones in the aftermarket but as far as I'm aware all of those came with a standard crank design. Unless you can provide me a rabbit hole to dive down, which I will!
I stand corrected on it being a flat plane crank. I'm old and memory fails me sometimes. Lol
Isn't your argument pretty irrelevant? You speak as if this product was created for the mainstream. It will massively undercut vehicles with similar power ratings, and the owners will most likely have the skills to manage it or be willing to pay for the instruction?
LMAO, i guess he's never heard of traction control ???... I'm a Pontiac guy at heart but you are wrong about the assessment of this Corvette.
Sure, traction control what about it? Every single car built in the last 2 decades has traction control, does that keep them from crashing? Almost NONE of them make anywhere near this level of power. What makes it so amazing and exciting? Just purely that it makes 1000+ hp? People have been doing that in LS powered cars for years and years already
Chevrolet's 5.5 Liter Flat plane crank is nothing like Mustangs. Tell me you're not a mechanic without telling me you're not a mechanic. But i bet you're a big Mustang GTD fan boy. $300,000+ car that by your logic makes as much sense as a ZR1. Go admire and talk about your "motors".
Corvette have just gone crazy but not crazyer than mopar with getting rid of the hemi and the average guy can't buy a new foor door gm car anymore that is fast enough to have fun but still only cost 20k to buy I don't get why gm can't make that
I'm thoroughly confused about Mopar and what they are doing for sure, it's... very odd. To go away from everything the brand has represented for the last what 2 decades now? Idk, I would love to know the math behind it that makes sense. But to a red blooded muscle car American it makes very little sense.
@@AutomotiveAdventuresWithAustin I unfortunately have to say this but for once ford is the only ok company right now
Good points!
Thank you! Glad people are mostly agreeing with me!
Put a coyote with a twin turbo in that capri and beat the new zr1 😂
Yea for the 3 people in the world that could afford it. It's worthless.
The only reason it has that much power is because it’s twin turbo. So what? It’s still ugly, the C8 looks like a new Camaro got rear ended by a Ferrari…. 🤮…. I’ll stick to my rusty ‘03 Silverado with 190k miles lol
Twin turbo, and reportedly something like 20psi of boost! So that means NA it makes what 400hp? Out of a 5.5 liter flat plane crank V8 that spins to 8,000 RPM!? The Ford 5.2 would like to have a word with you Chevy
what I understand from this video is Jealousy, envy and hate cause its going to demolish all Mustangs and the 500k Ford GT take that to the Bank and collect the interest.
Get a Porsche instead.
You will have an electric SUV and be happy about it.
Absolutely not. No electric vehicles in my fleet at all. I WOULD love a fun enjoyable little American sports car though that isn't $50,000 though if you please
I'm glad someone had a set to say something. I agree 100%.. I got a 94 s10ss that I built LS powered that hangs with them high dollar factory cars and it's a blast. In the summer I drive it back and forth to work. Got a sticker on the back "Built Not Bought " LOL
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If they would have dropped the power to maybe 650 to 700 and drop the price they would have sold way more. Stupid😊
They already have the Z06 that is 670 horse and is far less expensive
I’m a ford guy and bro you sound like a hater I ain’t good lie
What makes me sound like a hater?
So this is about ppl who can afford something others can’t. Too many betas not enough alphas is the problem.
No, it's not about that at all. It's about everyone pretending this is some ground breaking spaceship of a car that's going to change the world. NONE of this is new tech. Ford has had a flat plane crank DOHC V8 for YEARS, look at the GT350. From that to this is simple, lower compression, add boost and fuel. Done. It's also a vehicle that will NEVER be driven anywhere near it's potential by 99% of the people who buy it. So it's a D measuring vehicle pure and simple. Some of us don't need to measure.
@@AutomotiveAdventuresWithAustin no rumors we’re spending back when the C6 came out about Chevrolet going the way of exotic cars. This has been the direction for a long time. C8 Z cars were built for a certain demographic, it’s not a blue collar workers car anymore. He’ll pick up trucks are barely a blue collar man’s vehicle anymore. I don’t worry about what ppl have, I can make legitimate money like the next man. There are too many ways to make it in America you just have to have the stones and drive to get there. A man by definition does not blame other for his shortcomings let the females gossip and finger point.
1000hp with a V8 and twin turbos really isn’t that much of an accomplishment. Chevy is just making this into a dick measuring contest
Exactly! 1000hp pump gas LS without all the fancy stuff is doable by guys in their detached garages behind their houses in $1500 shitboxes. Unless this thing also magically gets 35mpg while cruising
That isn't a accomplishment, they just made the fastest production American V8 what are you talking about.
@@AutomotiveAdventuresWithAustinthe ZR1 is 🔥🔥 Those cars you mentioned don’t come with a warranty straight from the factory.
@@kjffoster1289 so what? It won't be sold to people who can handle it, and it's nothing special tech wise. Throwing twin turbos on a V8 is pretty simple math
@@bullycat_kickz5198 I mean... ok. I guess? You can buy a 800hp Mustang straight from the dealer for $50,000.. and it comes with a warranty, you've been able to buy them for years. For a quarter of the price of a new ZR1
People made fun of the Corvette when the GMC Syclone like you had out ran the Corvette. Now they build the fastest Corvette ever and you’re complaining? The 2023 Dodge Demon 170 is 1,025 horsepower and those were on Power Tour. So all the things you talked about having to spend money to make the Challenger hook and book is true. But the Corvette is a turn key car. Someone comes on Power Tour in a GT40 that’s worth $250,000-$300,000? I bet in the next 3 years one of those ZR-1’s will be on Power Tour. This is not a bad thing that GM is putting money in the development and performance vehicles. Not everyone has the skills and abilities to build a car on their own. If someone wants to spend $200,000 that’s their business. I watch all your videos and love your channels but I disagree on the hate of a Corvette. I like my New Balance Shoes they are very comfortable.
First off, let me say thank you for watching and supporting the channels, and we are totally allowed to disagree. Secondly, I absolutely LOVE this comment and that your handle is "WVCorvetteMan", you sir, are awesome and I appreciate it! Also, no offense to your New Balance shoes, they ARE quite comfortable! ;)
The Corvette vs Syclone thing is such a crazy situation and story that almost no one knows, or is interested in knowing. What's truly crazy is how hobbled it was from the factory or it would have absolutely obliterated the Corvette, but that would have been very very bad for PR.
The Demon makes those numbers on e85, which is "cheater race gas". The Corvette does it on pump 93, but they are using the advantage of modern technology, if by modern I mean developed mostly in the last 25 years. Most of those Demons, will NEVER be driven at 100%, they are impossible to hook up on street tires. Even a Hellcat on street tires is near impossible to hook up on street tires. I'll without my judgement of that on the 'Vette until I see one in the wild but unless there's some crazy compound coming out, or these have a 345+ rear tire on them a 1000hp street car is just missile with a license plate on it.
We'll see, I've been wrong before. Maybe I'll be wrong again.
Thanks for the reply! I agree we are still buddies. We don’t have to Agree on everything. Another thing I thought of is 1990 a ZR-1 was $70,000. When you calculate for inflation that’s $170,000 in today’s dollars. There is a 1990 ZR-1 at a car lot by my house that has 1800 miles in it and I think they want about $37,000. Maybe I can pick up one of these models half price in the future! :) To be honest I’m just happy it’s a gasoline engine and not more of the E-Ray stuff. Just remember not all Corvette dudes are pricks.
I like the look of the new Vette but you're absolutely right that there's no room under the hood (or is it the trunk?). Back in the day we used to say the Vette was stupid because it rode like a dump truck. The big block version was even worse. If a chick sat on the old Vette it would crack the fiberglass. Honestly, I've been looking for a good deal on a used mid-engine Vette but folks are asking crazy prices. Since this will be a collectors item (because of the 1K horsepower), most of them will end up sitting in garages. In my humble opinion, buying a car to sit in the garage for 20 years or more is stupid. If I had the money I'd buy one and drive the wheels off it. I'm working for GM now trying to get the CDK software issues resolved, and I might be able to get you a new ZR1 if you change your mind. Bowling Green is only a day's drive from your house, maybe you could do a video or two from the factory. Anything would be better than the bleached blonde bimbos that call themselves "influencers" talking about the new Vette. I can't stand chicks who don't know how to wrench getting to promote the new supercars. Hell, I think Supercar Blondie is my age. That's why she never gets close to the camera any more. Send GM an email, I'll bet they hook you up with a two day pass. Love the "get off my lawn" reference. Stay cool dude!
I agree with you 100%. I like to go fast but that's really dumb!! No one with that kind of money can handle a car like that
Bingo. I love power, I like to go fast in all forms. But this is just pure stupidity and going to be purchased by people who won't ever use, or can't handle the power levels this thing turns out.
I am a Pontiac guy. I did own a 1974 Corvette with a 454, 4 speed and 410 gearing. It was a nice car but did not make me fall in love with it. Bought it with 27,000 miles sold it 15 years later with 32,000 miles. If I had that $250,000 to spend, I don't. I would buy a 69 Ram Air IV Trans Am and a 1973 SD-455 Trans am The last good looking Corvette was 73 with the chrome rear bumper. My 74 looked good in the front but not the back. The new one you are talking about, I would tell me dog to go wee wee on the wheels.
rite on TELL UMMM
Who cares about junk Pontiac 🤣 gtfoh
Heyyyyy now easy you're in Pontiac country 'round here!
Cadillac (aka gm) had the first version of variable valve timing!! Look it up!!
Ohhh don't get me started on all the things Cadillac has done/almost done and fumbled :( But variable valve timing has been around a long long long time at this point.
It's just a rich person bragging right. Doubtful you'll see these in the hood doing donuts 😆. Cars after 1996 don't have my attention
That's 100% correct, it's something rich dudes will buy to brag about to other rich dudes while driving the speed limit to the country club. OR whatever the modern equivalent of that is. I would have been MUCH more excited about a mid engine real wheel drive $45,000 sports car, that actual people might actually purchase.
I'd rather have a 450 horse new Trans AM or GTO
AMEN!
This is pure stupid.
You're certainly entitled to your opinion :)
@@AutomotiveAdventuresWithAustin you need to learn the facts before arriving at stupid conclusions. The facts are easily obtained. Like the fact that this ZR1 is a mid engine setup just like the Ford GT which sells for a million dollars. Oh BTW, the ford has a 6 banger that is not even designed by Ford.
The part your missing chevy always does it better ford is a better ideal for mopeds lol