Roy, this was fantastic. I have only just started sublimating tumblers therefore as part of my learning curve I have had a few stuff ups along the way. I stumbled upon your TH-cam channel yesterday and found them very good and I like the way you get the information across without going on with a lot of BS.
I use a convection oven for my glass cans. When I have some that I need to strip the sun ink off. I put a shrink wrap on it and bake for about 6-7 minutes. The shrink wrap soaks up the image pretty well. I normally do 2 rounds of that. It works wonderfully. I have t tried it on the tumblers though.
This video was absolutely what I needed. One of the most informative videos I watched in a long time. I love the fact it wasn’t rushed, and it held my attention the entirety of the video. Definitely a new subscriber.
Thank you! This worked great. Just baked some tumblers last night and sublimated them again. I thought I was going to have to learn to epoxy tumblers in order to recycle the tumblers I ruin while trying to learn.
I’m so glad it worked! I’m sure there will be times the original image is too dark, or I miscalculate what new image to replace it with, but if I can save some of the mess ups, I’m happy! (As much as I love epoxy, I don’t have the patience!) Thanks for watching!
Loved this video. Have a few stuffed up items and been a bit worried about attempting a make over of them. however.... today im inspired and have one in my craft oven fading out as I type. Thank you so much for sharing.
Best video on fixing mistakes.. It makes me want to chew my mugs when I discover I placed the design upside down or forgot to mirror it.. My blood boils inside😭 I'm glad I found this. I've subscribed and liked . ty
@@industrialfringe953 Roy, is it possible to put too much pressure on a tumbler? The first one turned out beautifully, but the second one is too dark around the top and bottom, and the color is too light in the mid-section. I still don't have a convection over to bake the image off. This has never happened before. What must I have done wrong? Thank you, Donna
@@industrialfringe953 Is it possible to to put too much tape on the tumbler? I'm trying to figure this out. Or could I have pressed it too long. 90 seconds x 4?
@@industrialfringe953 Good morning, I’m doing another as I post this comment. I only taped the seams and double taped the top and bottom. I was thinking that perhaps it got over heated by me turning it four times on one end, and four times on the other end. Was that too much heat for it? This time, I’m turning it twice in each end, making sure the the section that the press doesn’t heat the first time, gets heat when I turn it. I sure hope this works. It’s cooling down now before I remove the butcher paper and sublimation paper. I’ll be watching more of your wonderful videos. Thank you.
I have just subbed my first glass and now need a convection oven to rectify a mess, aaargh!!!!! Thank you so much for this fantastic video. I am currently perusing your website x
This was awesome! I just bought a used convection oven and can't wait to try sublimation! That being said, I haven't had a chance to make mistakes (yet...lol), but now I know how I can fix them if I do :)
Congratulations on getting the oven! Used is always the best route! And I hope you never make a mistake…but at least now you know you’ll have options! Thanks for watching!
Just watching and learning and picking up supplies, but know I will make every single mistake once I get started. But also glad I won’t have to turn in my mancard since making trips to the big two craft stores. Thank you! You got a new subscriber.
I use the same time and temp and wrapping methods as I do all of my tumblers. Feel free to go back and look at my video on getting great edges and getting great seams. I think once you find the perfect sweet spot for blacks, you’ve hit the perfect spot for all tumblers! I may do a video on blacks down the road, but I’m afraid there won’t really be any surprises! Thanks so much for watching!
Have noticed the dark at the bottom of the tumblers I don't know if it's burnt does that come off and does any of the fumes get down in the cup I saw somebody cover up the top of their cup so the fumes wouldn't get inside
Well, I’ll need to start by saying you should never take scientific advice from me. (Mrs. Koenig, my high school science teacher would very quickly confirm this.) I don’t cover the tops when I bake off, as I don’t personally believe there’s an issue. First, deposition (or desublimation) is the process of turning a gas back into a solid, so there is a possibility of the gas reforming into a solid inside the tumbler. I’m not sure that’s a bad thing, as once the gas has turned into a solid, it’s safe. Right?! I mean, I could lick the outside of my tumbler all day long and nothing would happen to me. (Let’s assume I’ve never done that.) I do wash out my tumblers after they’ve been burned off, but my very unscientific thought is that it’s okay. Besides, if you’re sublimating in an oven, there is still a percentage of gas going into the oven and thus into and around the tumbler. That said, if you have ANY issue, by all means, cover it! (With what, I don’t know!) As far as the dark at the bottom, it’s probably not coming off! Thanks for watching!
I mentioned this in the video. I’m not sure, but I didn’t want to try, as I didn’t want to put my press through that much work for one tumbler. Tumbler press attachments eventually go bad, and I just don’t want that to be the reason mine does! Thanks so much for watching!
Hey, Renee! I have a couple of other videos that get into the details, but short answer is 190 seconds at 385 for mugs in a press (375ish for 10-1/2 minutes in an oven) and 365 degrees for 50/50/25/25 in a press, light pressure (365ish for 4-1/2 minutes in an oven). Thanks for watching!
Omgosh im Very very new to sublimation. This was i had a a question i had. Ive watched so many ppl and different videos. I get overwhelmed with all the info. But i really feel that you can help me feel more at ease. 😁👊 Thank you so so much for sharing your knowledge with us. Btw i have 4 different emails so i will be likening and subtracting your videos from all of them to help you out. For helping others thats the only way i know how to support you and show my appreciation. Thank you
Yay! Thanks for quadruple subscribing! Join the Facebook group, there are a lot of great folks in there that help me answer questions (and often answer questions I can’t!) Make sure to answer the questions!
This is the first video of your channel that I have watched and it took me only 20 sec to realize I belong here and hit that subscribe button... ps: I dont even sublimate but now i just might start😝
You know, that’s a great question. I haven’t thought about it. My guess would be that it would not, as you’re off gassing the tumbler. BUT, it could very help help! I’ll have to check it out the next time I’m baking off tumblers!
Hi! I have the French Door convection/air fryer combo and I usually lay my tumblers down to sublimate, there are a few that are messed up does it matter if I lay them down to erase the ink or is it better to stand them up?
Omg once again a great video! I did two upside down!!!! Not sure how I’m going to fix the one yet as it is a Budweiser tumbler but I was so happy to find this video! 💕
Thank you so much for this video. I have a few glass cans that I thought I was going to have to paint over to use for pencil holders, vases or something. I hope they bake as well as yours did. I will be subscribing to your TH-cam channel and Facebook.
What if you just resubmitted with the save image? If the intention is to sell that design, once you make a mistake, you baked it in the oven to cause the image to fade, & lighten up, and then you lined up the same image with the faded one.
Do they need to be standing up or can they lay on the side? I tried standing mine up and with the size of my oven it gets to close to the heating element? If yes what kind of oven do you use? Thank you for your help!
Great question! If possible, I’d stand them up, but if you have a messed up tumbler that you can’t use anyway, I’d give it a try! Just make sure to rotate often and maybe add a few more minutes due to the door opening more often. Thanks for watching!
Hey, Pamela, yes, I have a couple of videos where I wrap. One that talks about perfect seams and one that talks about perfect edges. (And yet another that talks about both!) Definitely take a look at my channel. I’m sure you’ll find some helpful info! Thanks for watching!
While I’m not a chemist, my belief is, the stainless steel inside is a hard metal surface and can easily be cleaned. What you want to stay away from is food in the same oven. The reason behind that is that food can absorb any lingering gases left in the oven, but a hard stainless steel surface cannot. But that’s just my best guess. If you’re concerned, don’t rebake, or at least get an opinion from someone qualified to answer chemical/gas related questions! Thanks for watching!
Thanks! There’s a lot involved with pricing, including quality of the finished product, are demographic, and location, location, location! I’ve sold tumblers as low as $25 and as much as $35 for 20oz. It depends where I’m selling them! Thanks for watching!
Are you using a heat press and if so are you just wrapping with that Songkran peice of tape? Is there a and over lap where your connecting the two sides? Or is your print exactly the same size as the cup?
Definitely go back and watch a few of my other videos! I think (hope) you’ll be able to get some good info. I mostly use a tumbler press, and here’s how I wrap with tape. th-cam.com/video/7Uj0ho9pP3o/w-d-xo.html Thanks for watching!
@INDUSTRIAL fringe I just found you. I really don't watch much how to sublimation they just don't explain things like you. Your definitely an amazingly helpful channel. Do you have a video how you measure your cups and how you cut them. Before wrapping? I made a quick glance but only seen wrapping and editing your images
Wonderful video. I have an upside down golf one as well and a glass can I don’t like so I’ll give it a try. I thought I would have to epoxy which I’m slowing down on. Thank you.
Thank you for your fab video's and advise ...I too rebake my happy accidents as I call them but keep them in the family....the problem I have with mine is the base always looks cooked and you can tell its been rebaked...any suggestions pls
Hey, Mags! The coffee mug I rebaked had a brownish bottom, but surprisingly, the others didn’t. I have a silicone mat that’s on the bottom of the oven that may have something to do with it. I would also imaging if they’re over baked, that could occur. If you don’t already have one, try a silicone mat inside the oven. Make sure it will withstand the heat! Thanks for watching!
I do a little of both. I peel the tape as soon as it comes out of the heat, but leave the paper on for the amount of time it takes to make another tumbler. Right before my next tumbler is ready to be removed, I take the paper off the tumbler that’s been out. Make sense?! Thanks for watching!
Any oven will bake down the image, but don’t use an oven that you use for food! (You can always check your local thrift store for a used one!) Thanks for watching!
For images with a lot of black in them, how do you keep the sub paper from sticking to the tumbler? Mine is sticking badly which ruins the finish of the tumbler. The other colors press beautifully. I run an Epson F570, Epson General Purpose transfer paper with Epson sub ink.
Without knowing any more, my first two thoughts would be this. First, make sure your ink is bone-dry on the paper. I try to print a day or so before pressing. (I’ve pressed seconds after printing too, but I try to wait at least a little while, especially on dark designs with large solid dark areas.) Secondly, you may want to try prebaking the tumbler if you’re gonna do a really dark image and you’re still having an issue. Just long enough to make sure the finish is baked into the tumbler. (Two to five minutes in an oven or 30 seconds to a minute in a press.) Let it cool back down before wrapping. Thanks for watching!
The goal is to not get them in the first place, and I do that by using very light pressure and making sure the tumblers are completely cured. (There’s no way to test that, but if you have light pressure and you’re getting them, you need to bake the other tumblers in that box for 30 seconds to a minute without anything on them to make sure they’re completely cured. Let them cool back down, then wrap as normal. If you do get them, you can use a car wax to lightly buff and reduce the severity. Turtle Wax Scratch and Swirl is the one I’ve used. It’s not a complete remover, but it helps!
NO, don’t ever use an oven you’re going to eat out of for sublimation! Instead, find a cheap oven at a thrift store. You want convection, but a toaster oven will work in a pinch, you’ll just have to rotate it pretty often.
I am new to sublimation. I have ruined a couple of mugs and tumblers. I was able to remove almost all of the ink from the mugs. I have a sublimation oven and set the oven to 400 degrees for 45 minutes. One of the mugs looks brand new and the other has a faint ink stain on it. My question is will the ink stay on the cups and tumblers without recoating them with a sublimation coating? Thank you
Interesting. I’m not sure why one retained the ink. There will always be some ink left, hence the need to find a dark, dark design to cover it with! Once you’ve baked as much of the ink off as you can, you can resub without the need to add more sublimation coating. I’m not sure how many times you can do it, but from my experience, it definitely works one time! Thanks for watching!
I had to go back and look at the video, because I knew none of them burnt on the bottom (except the glass one and the mug a little bit)! I had previously put a rubber bottom on that tumbler, and when I removed the rubber bottom, some of the adhesive didn’t come off, but I didn’t notice. That adhesive browned up. I was able to remove it with a little GooGone. The learning on my part? Remove all the adhesive BEFORE I rebake a tumbler! Thanks for watching!
I have a stupid question. I'm new at this & I did something stupid. I used my heat gloves to brab my tumbler out of the oven which I guess I shouldn't of done as they left marks on my rebaked tumbler. I also turned my tumbler 1/2 way as it way laying down & I heard I needed to do so if it didn't stand up. So my question is how do I remove the heat glove marks that have been left on the tumbler? I got a lot off but not all. I feel so stupid
I think these heat gloves aren't the best. They are the black with pink dots type. I think I need to invest in some new ones that don't melt when grabing a hot tumbler.
Oh, don’t feel bad, you’d laugh at all the mistakes I’ve made! I’m not 100% sure what you’re talking about, but it sounds like the heat from the rebaked tumbler caused some of the material to transfer from the gloves to the tumbler. It may have glued itself into the substrate. If you’ve removed everything by hand and there’s still some there, I would try baking it a little while longer to see if you can get it off of the tumbler when it’s hot. But maybe use some different gloves! Thanks so much for watching!
Hi there! I just did this process for some frosted glass cans and the yellowing was obvious. Was there another process ypu used to get the yellowing under control?
Hey, Heather! The only process I used was baking in the oven. Without knowing the time and temp, if yellowing happened to me, I’d back off of the time (and/or temp) a little. Thanks for watching!
Hey, Angie! I set the oven to convection. Convection gives a more consistent heat through the interior of the oven so you don’t need to rotate! Thanks for watching!
No more so than creating a new one in an oven, although it is in there longer. I’ve heard a few people say you should cover the opening so the gas can’t get inside. If you think you should, by all means, do so. I personally don’t think it’s an issue, as I believe it’s completely safe once it gets back below 350 degrees. But do what makes you feel most comfortable! Thanks for watching!
Well, the Walmart frosted one was messed up all around, so it was trash! With the exception of two, I didn’t have issues with the bottoms. And those two were because I didn’t get the sticky stuff from the rubber bottom completely off. I ended up scrubbing them to pull most of it off. Then the little bit of what I couldn’t get was covered up by a new rubber bottom. Thanks for watching!
Very helpful thanks a bunch! Can it be put again in the oven after giving it a brake to cool off for another hour to continue discoloration if the print is still a little hard to get off 🤔 Im doing this on 12oz mugs
You can certainly try, but I’m pretty sure you won’t get more off. At some point, the bottom begins to darken, and I’d be afraid that may get too noticeable. Thanks for watching!
Yes, kinda! I built my whole setup with black iron pipe and wood for the shelving, trimmed in a darker wood. I absolutely love it because it’s strong, and I can reconfigure whenever I need to! Thanks for watching!
Hey, Rita! You NEVER want to sublimate in an oven you use for food! I’m thinking a press may work, but in my opinion, it would be way too much on the press just for saving one substrate. I would go to a local thrift shop and see if you can get a convection or toaster oven for a few dollars. (If it’s not convection, you’ll just need to rotate it often.) thanks for watching!
Hey, Hippie Chick Creations! (I absolutely love that name!) You can, but you can’t use it to cook food in. The best is a small countertop convection oven. If you’re looking, try a thrift store. And while convection is better, a regular toaster will probably work, you’ll just need to manually turn it once or twice during the bake. Again, don’t ever use an oven you’d cook your food in! The process of sublimation releases gases that you do not want in your food! Thanks for watching!
I’ve not heard of that, but I always suggest leaning toward what’s safe! It’s my understanding that you can wash the inside out and it will be fine, but…safety first! Thanks for watching!
Awesome video!! Thanks so much for taking the time to create and test these! I guess after just recently purchasing a tumbler press I will now be in search of a convection oven I like that you can sublimated more than 1 at a time and now I see I can save them too! Wow!! Wanted to ask where you got your rotation devise I am having a hard time posting good pics and/or videos of my finished tumblers!! Love your channel!! Thanks again!! Love the lizard eye tumbler and guitar…wow wow wow gorgeous!! ❤- christine
Thanks so much!!! I would definitely look at a thrift store to try and find a convection oven. A toaster oven would work as well, you just have to rotate the tumbler a bit. I got the rotation device on Amazon. I’ve since seen a couple (on Amazon) that I like better! Just search rotating display stand! Thanks again, and thanks for watching!
NO! Never, ever use an oven for food and sublimation! Gasses are released when sublimating (whether subbing something on or trying to burn something off), so only use an oven dedicated to only sublimation! If you don’t have one, try a local thrift shop. Thanks again for watching!
Wow! I'm amazed at how well the golf club / dragon tumbler came out. I've always assumed that a messed up all-over design was a hopeless cause. I guess it's possible to fix if you're careful to choose the right image for resubbing.
It did come out quite well! And you’re absolutely right, it’s all about picking the right dark image for what you’re trying to cover up! Thanks for watching!
I don’t know of another way, but my suggestion would be to scour thrift stores (Goodwill, Salvation Army, etc.)for an old used toaster or convection oven. (Convection is the way to go, but if you’re just burning off an image and you’re prepared to rotate the tumbler every 10-15 minutes, I imagine an regular toaster oven would work.) Good luck, and thanks for watching!
Hi there! Thanks so much for this video I had a glass can I had messed up. All the ink pretty much went away but the rim and bottom of the glass turned orange. Any idea if it’s fixable or what caused it?
Oh,wow, I’ve not heard of that happening. My Walmart glass can got all funky on me. My first thought would be to look at temp and maybe time? Could they have been in there to long or too hot? That’s all I can think of. Thanks so much for watching, and here’s to you figuring it out. Let me know!
NO, not if you’re going to use it for food! You don’t want to use any oven for food and sublimation, as the process of sublimation releases gases. Check your local thrift stores for a small convection or toaster oven. Thanks for watching!
So my tumbler is to tall to stand up in convection oven so can I lay in there to try and do this? Would I just need to turn it several times? When I sub on them I have to lay in oven which comes out great so wasn’t sure when trying to burn image off if this would work.
I haven’t needed to do that yet, but I would just about bet that if you’re making them in the oven that way, you should be fine with baking the image off that way. But yes, I would turn it often. (I would probably turn every 10-15 minutes, but I may be a little OCD about it!) Thanks for watching!
Hey, Angela. I’m not 100% sure what the question is, but I’m gonna take a stab! The seam is made from the two sides of the image touching each other. If the image is designed to be seamless and the tumbler is wrapped perfectly, you won’t see a seam. If the design isn’t made to be seamless, or if the wrap isn’t spot on, you can see a seam. And some people (me!) often build a seam into the design. I hope that answers your question! Thanks so much for watching!
I shrink wrapped clear glass and frosted glass cans and the shrink wrap absorbed a lot of the design, enough so that I could put a darker image on it. Looks weird from the inside but the outside was decent.
Interesting. I heard a few people have issues getting the shrink wrap off the glass. It’s great to know you didn’t have that issue! Thanks for sharing, and thanks for watching!
I tried this at 400 and did for 60 mins. and they weren't even close to white again. I put in for another 60 and they are just faded. Should I turn my oven up more?
You’re not going to get all the ink off, you just want to get enough off to try and add a darker design to cover it. If you haven’t yet, I’d make sure your oven is at the correct temp. Do you have an internal thermometer? At that point, you can increase the time and/or temp to get some of that ink off. Best of luck, and thanks for watching!
@@industrialfringe953 yes I do. I tried 450 today for an hour and it didn't even barely fade it anymore. Do I need to not choose any designs with any white since the white is usually the tumbler?
Roy, this was fantastic. I have only just started sublimating tumblers therefore as part of my learning curve I have had a few stuff ups along the way. I stumbled upon your TH-cam channel yesterday and found them very good and I like the way you get the information across without going on with a lot of BS.
Thanks so much! But truth be told, you may just find a little BS mixed in! Thanks for watching!
I use a convection oven for my glass cans. When I have some that I need to strip the sun ink off. I put a shrink wrap on it and bake for about 6-7 minutes. The shrink wrap soaks up the image pretty well. I normally do 2 rounds of that. It works wonderfully. I have t tried it on the tumblers though.
That’s great to know! Thanks for the tip! And thanks for watching!
WOW! That’s a great technique, too! I need to get a convection oven for sure!
Would that work for frosted glass cups?
This video was absolutely what I needed. One of the most informative videos I watched in a long time. I love the fact it wasn’t rushed, and it held my attention the entirety of the video. Definitely a new subscriber.
That makes me so happy! Thank you, and thanks for subscribing!
Thank you! This worked great. Just baked some tumblers last night and sublimated them again. I thought I was going to have to learn to epoxy tumblers in order to recycle the tumblers I ruin while trying to learn.
I’m so glad it worked! I’m sure there will be times the original image is too dark, or I miscalculate what new image to replace it with, but if I can save some of the mess ups, I’m happy! (As much as I love epoxy, I don’t have the patience!) Thanks for watching!
This is great video. It gives me confidence to keep trying and trying to press the perfect tumbler and can not worry so much on screwing up!
Loved this video. Have a few stuffed up items and been a bit worried about attempting a make over of them. however.... today im inspired and have one in my craft oven fading out as I type. Thank you so much for sharing.
Thank you for taking us along for the ride. Appreciate you so much!!
Thank you so much! And thanks for watching!
Thank you so much for this video. It's the best one I've found with what to do with my messed up tumblers.
You are so welcome! Thanks for watching!
Best video on fixing mistakes.. It makes me want to chew my mugs when I discover I placed the design upside down or forgot to mirror it.. My blood boils inside😭 I'm glad I found this. I've subscribed and liked . ty
Fantastic! Thanks so much for watching and subscribing!
Awww… she loved it, and yes… she rocks!!!
Doesn’t she!
@@industrialfringe953 Roy, is it possible to put too much pressure on a tumbler? The first one turned out beautifully, but the second one is too dark around the top and bottom, and the color is too light in the mid-section. I still don't have a convection over to bake the image off. This has never happened before. What must I have done wrong?
Thank you,
Donna
@@industrialfringe953 Is it possible to to put too much tape on the tumbler? I'm trying to figure this out.
Or could I have pressed it too long. 90 seconds x 4?
I don’t think it is. I’ve seen people wrap their entire tumbler with tape! My thoughts are to use as little as possible to get the results I need!
@@industrialfringe953 Good morning,
I’m doing another as I post this comment.
I only taped the seams and double taped the top and bottom.
I was thinking that perhaps it got over heated by me turning it four times on one end, and four times on the other end. Was that too much heat for it?
This time, I’m turning it twice in each end, making sure the the section that the press doesn’t heat the first time, gets heat when I turn it.
I sure hope this works. It’s cooling down now before I remove the butcher paper and sublimation paper.
I’ll be watching more of your wonderful videos.
Thank you.
I just bought an oven this week so am looking forward to trying this.
Best of luck!
Thank you for this! I’ve been stressing over some glass can mess ups I’ve had! Helps we have the exact same convection oven!!
I couldn’t believe how well it did the clear glass!
I have just subbed my first glass and now need a convection oven to rectify a mess, aaargh!!!!! Thank you so much for this fantastic video. I am currently perusing your website x
Thank you!
Nice work!
and great patterns!
Thank you! And thanks for watching!
Another great video!!!! Thank you so much for sharing your talent with us all! Just subscribed to your channel ! Liz 😊
Thanks!
Wow! Thank YOU so much! And thanks for watching!!!
You’re welcome 😊
Absolutely wonderful results! That black tumbler color is on point!! I have two tumblers I need to re-sub.
Thanks for sharing!
Tracey
Thanks for watching, Tracey! Yes, that acoustic guitar is a perfect file if you have a black area on about a third of your messed up tumbler!
Great video. How do o get rid of tape residue? I’ve tried alcohol and acetone.
i only recently started to do sublimation. i have watched so many of your videos to learn how. thank you so much!
Thank you so much for the compliment! And thanks for watching!
Oh my goodness ! thank you, I have so many mugs I didn’t know what to do with
Good luck! I’m going to do a video soon on a cool way to use mugs with broken handles!
This was awesome! I just bought a used convection oven and can't wait to try sublimation! That being said, I haven't had a chance to make mistakes (yet...lol), but now I know how I can fix them if I do :)
Congratulations on getting the oven! Used is always the best route! And I hope you never make a mistake…but at least now you know you’ll have options! Thanks for watching!
Just watching and learning and picking up supplies, but know I will make every single mistake once I get started. But also glad I won’t have to turn in my mancard since making trips to the big two craft stores. Thank you! You got a new subscriber.
Yeah, I’m good at ‘finding’ all the mistakes too! Hopefully my videos can help you learn from my mistakes!
What do you think about vinegar? Is it useful?
They came out very well. I was about to trash one I messed up. Thanks 😊
Thanks! Yes, definitely give this a try!
Gosh I love you videos!!! They are so thorough!
Thank you so much! And thanks for watching!
I'm so glad i discovered your channel. I'm about to learn a lot. Thank you!!!
I’m so glad you discovered my channel, and I hope you learn a LOT! Thanks for watching!
Great video. Kinda reminds me of covering up a bad tattoo lol. Thanks have a great day!!
Thank you! And too funny, yes, there are some similarities!
How do you get a perfect clean rim and bottom with the black? Black is so hard for me to work with when wrapping around.
I use the same time and temp and wrapping methods as I do all of my tumblers. Feel free to go back and look at my video on getting great edges and getting great seams. I think once you find the perfect sweet spot for blacks, you’ve hit the perfect spot for all tumblers! I may do a video on blacks down the road, but I’m afraid there won’t really be any surprises! Thanks so much for watching!
Awesome! I have several that need to revisit the oven.
Boy, do I know what you mean! Thanks for watching!
Awesome video I have a couple messed up
I think we all have a few messed up! Thanks so much for watching!
It usually takes me 2 hours at 400 degrees and they fade a lot so you can sub a darker color over them.
Have noticed the dark at the bottom of the tumblers I don't know if it's burnt does that come off and does any of the fumes get down in the cup I saw somebody cover up the top of their cup so the fumes wouldn't get inside
Well, I’ll need to start by saying you should never take scientific advice from me. (Mrs. Koenig, my high school science teacher would very quickly confirm this.) I don’t cover the tops when I bake off, as I don’t personally believe there’s an issue. First, deposition (or desublimation) is the process of turning a gas back into a solid, so there is a possibility of the gas reforming into a solid inside the tumbler. I’m not sure that’s a bad thing, as once the gas has turned into a solid, it’s safe. Right?! I mean, I could lick the outside of my tumbler all day long and nothing would happen to me. (Let’s assume I’ve never done that.) I do wash out my tumblers after they’ve been burned off, but my very unscientific thought is that it’s okay. Besides, if you’re sublimating in an oven, there is still a percentage of gas going into the oven and thus into and around the tumbler. That said, if you have ANY issue, by all means, cover it! (With what, I don’t know!) As far as the dark at the bottom, it’s probably not coming off! Thanks for watching!
Do you know if I can bake off the image use a heat press machine?
I mentioned this in the video. I’m not sure, but I didn’t want to try, as I didn’t want to put my press through that much work for one tumbler. Tumbler press attachments eventually go bad, and I just don’t want that to be the reason mine does! Thanks so much for watching!
Thank you so much for this video I have so many I have messed up I wish I would have kept
I hear ya! I need to do another ‘bake-off,’ as my mess-ups are starting to overflow in my mess-up bin! Thanks for watching!
LOOKS GREAT!! ❤❤
Thank you so much! And thanks for watching!
how do I fix frosted mug
Would you share what time and temps you bake the mugs and tumblers. Sorry if I missed it!
Hey, Renee! I have a couple of other videos that get into the details, but short answer is 190 seconds at 385 for mugs in a press (375ish for 10-1/2 minutes in an oven) and 365 degrees for 50/50/25/25 in a press, light pressure (365ish for 4-1/2 minutes in an oven). Thanks for watching!
Omgosh im Very very new to sublimation. This was i had a a question i had. Ive watched so many ppl and different videos. I get overwhelmed with all the info. But i really feel that you can help me feel more at ease. 😁👊 Thank you so so much for sharing your knowledge with us. Btw i have 4 different emails so i will be likening and subtracting your videos from all of them to help you out. For helping others thats the only way i know how to support you and show my appreciation. Thank you
Yay! Thanks for quadruple subscribing! Join the Facebook group, there are a lot of great folks in there that help me answer questions (and often answer questions I can’t!) Make sure to answer the questions!
@@industrialfringe953 i joined😁
Do you have an expsy on these !
Awesome job, your brave and intelligent!
Thanks so much! Brave, maybe. Intelligent? Many, many people would argue that! Thanks so much for watching!
This is the first video of your channel that I have watched and it took me only 20 sec to realize I belong here and hit that subscribe button...
ps: I dont even sublimate but now i just might start😝
I LOVE THAT! Thanks so much for watching and for subscribing!
What would happen if you wrapped it in blank sublimation paper? Would it help pull think ink out?
You know, that’s a great question. I haven’t thought about it. My guess would be that it would not, as you’re off gassing the tumbler. BUT, it could very help help! I’ll have to check it out the next time I’m baking off tumblers!
Hi! I have the French Door convection/air fryer combo and I usually lay my tumblers down to sublimate, there are a few that are messed up does it matter if I lay them down to erase the ink or is it better to stand them up?
Great question! You could probably it either way, but I would rotate a few times if laying them on their side. If you can, I’d stand them up!
Omg once again a great video! I did two upside down!!!! Not sure how I’m going to fix the one yet as it is a Budweiser tumbler but I was so happy to find this video! 💕
I’m so glad you found it too! Thanks so much for watching!
Thank you for sharing would never think to do this
Anytime! Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much for this video. I have a few glass cans that I thought I was going to have to paint over to use for pencil holders, vases or something. I hope they bake as well as yours did. I will be subscribing to your TH-cam channel and Facebook.
YES! The glass cans worked so much better than I thought! Thanks for subscribing! I look forward to see you in the Facebook group!
What if you just resubmitted with the save image? If the intention is to sell that design, once you make a mistake, you baked it in the oven to cause the image to fade, & lighten up, and then you lined up the same image with the faded one.
I love the tutorial but I really love your outtakes!!! 😂😂😂❤️
Thanks so much!
Do they need to be standing up or can they lay on the side? I tried standing mine up and with the size of my oven it gets to close to the heating element? If yes what kind of oven do you use? Thank you for your help!
Great question! If possible, I’d stand them up, but if you have a messed up tumbler that you can’t use anyway, I’d give it a try! Just make sure to rotate often and maybe add a few more minutes due to the door opening more often. Thanks for watching!
thank you so much for sharing
THIS IS GREAT, DO YOU HAVE A YOU TUBE VIDEO ON WRAPPING
Hey, Pamela, yes, I have a couple of videos where I wrap. One that talks about perfect seams and one that talks about perfect edges. (And yet another that talks about both!) Definitely take a look at my channel. I’m sure you’ll find some helpful info! Thanks for watching!
What about the gasses getting inside the tumbler when baking off?
While I’m not a chemist, my belief is, the stainless steel inside is a hard metal surface and can easily be cleaned. What you want to stay away from is food in the same oven. The reason behind that is that food can absorb any lingering gases left in the oven, but a hard stainless steel surface cannot. But that’s just my best guess. If you’re concerned, don’t rebake, or at least get an opinion from someone qualified to answer chemical/gas related questions! Thanks for watching!
Thank you now won’t throw mistakes away
I know, I keep all of mine, and have have a lot!
QUITE IMPRESSIVE!!!
Thanks for sharing this technique.
How much do you sell your tumblers for? I need to know how to price my tumblers.
Thanks!
Thanks! There’s a lot involved with pricing, including quality of the finished product, are demographic, and location, location, location! I’ve sold tumblers as low as $25 and as much as $35 for 20oz. It depends where I’m selling them! Thanks for watching!
Are you using a heat press and if so are you just wrapping with that Songkran peice of tape? Is there a and over lap where your connecting the two sides? Or is your print exactly the same size as the cup?
Definitely go back and watch a few of my other videos! I think (hope) you’ll be able to get some good info. I mostly use a tumbler press, and here’s how I wrap with tape. th-cam.com/video/7Uj0ho9pP3o/w-d-xo.html Thanks for watching!
@INDUSTRIAL fringe I just found you. I really don't watch much how to sublimation they just don't explain things like you. Your definitely an amazingly helpful channel. Do you have a video how you measure your cups and how you cut them. Before wrapping? I made a quick glance but only seen wrapping and editing your images
Wish I had known this a couple years ago!
I hear ya. I wish I would have figured it out a couple of years ago! Thanks for watching!
Wonderful video. I have an upside down golf one as well and a glass can I don’t like so I’ll give it a try. I thought I would have to epoxy which I’m slowing down on. Thank you.
Good luck! I was surprised how well the clear glass can worked! Thanks for watching!
I keep getting an overlap of about a half an inch only tumblers. The white is on the outside , not even on the tumbler itself....please help!!
I’m not 100% sure what you’re asking. Join the Facebook group and I’m sure we can get your issue fixed!
Thank you for your fab video's and advise ...I too rebake my happy accidents as I call them but keep them in the family....the problem I have with mine is the base always looks cooked and you can tell its been rebaked...any suggestions pls
Hey, Mags! The coffee mug I rebaked had a brownish bottom, but surprisingly, the others didn’t. I have a silicone mat that’s on the bottom of the oven that may have something to do with it. I would also imaging if they’re over baked, that could occur. If you don’t already have one, try a silicone mat inside the oven. Make sure it will withstand the heat! Thanks for watching!
Loved this information!!! Thank you!
I’m so glad! Thanks for watching!
Should peel the paper off while the tumbler is still hot hot or wait for it to cool down?
I do a little of both. I peel the tape as soon as it comes out of the heat, but leave the paper on for the amount of time it takes to make another tumbler. Right before my next tumbler is ready to be removed, I take the paper off the tumbler that’s been out. Make sense?! Thanks for watching!
@industrialfringe953 yes!! Thank you. I'm gonna try that. Mine keeps ghosting. I'm very new to this.
Thank you so much!! ❤❤
Great advise!
Thanks you! And thanks for watching!
Super video with lots of info! Thank you Jedi Master! Oh and @25:38 no worries! I'm also working on words in 2025. :)
Can you do this on other sublimation blanks?
You know, I’m not sure. I’d be willing to try any hard surfaces substrate, but doubt it would work on anything soft. Thanks for watching!
Ok so all I have is a tumbler press. Will a regular oven at 400 work?
Any oven will bake down the image, but don’t use an oven that you use for food! (You can always check your local thrift store for a used one!) Thanks for watching!
For images with a lot of black in them, how do you keep the sub paper from sticking to the tumbler? Mine is sticking badly which ruins the finish of the tumbler. The other colors press beautifully. I run an Epson F570, Epson General Purpose transfer paper with Epson sub ink.
Without knowing any more, my first two thoughts would be this. First, make sure your ink is bone-dry on the paper. I try to print a day or so before pressing. (I’ve pressed seconds after printing too, but I try to wait at least a little while, especially on dark designs with large solid dark areas.) Secondly, you may want to try prebaking the tumbler if you’re gonna do a really dark image and you’re still having an issue. Just long enough to make sure the finish is baked into the tumbler. (Two to five minutes in an oven or 30 seconds to a minute in a press.) Let it cool back down before wrapping. Thanks for watching!
How do you get rid of the tape marks?
The goal is to not get them in the first place, and I do that by using very light pressure and making sure the tumblers are completely cured. (There’s no way to test that, but if you have light pressure and you’re getting them, you need to bake the other tumblers in that box for 30 seconds to a minute without anything on them to make sure they’re completely cured. Let them cool back down, then wrap as normal. If you do get them, you can use a car wax to lightly buff and reduce the severity. Turtle Wax Scratch and Swirl is the one I’ve used. It’s not a complete remover, but it helps!
Hi, thanks for this video, but do I have to buy a convection oven? I can't use a kitchen oven? A gas oven to be exact. Just curious
NO, don’t ever use an oven you’re going to eat out of for sublimation! Instead, find a cheap oven at a thrift store. You want convection, but a toaster oven will work in a pinch, you’ll just have to rotate it pretty often.
@@industrialfringe953 thanks!
I am new to sublimation. I have ruined a couple of mugs and tumblers. I was able to remove almost all of the ink from the mugs. I have a sublimation oven and set the oven to 400 degrees for 45 minutes. One of the mugs looks brand new and the other has a faint ink stain on it. My question is will the ink stay on the cups and tumblers without recoating them with a sublimation coating? Thank you
Interesting. I’m not sure why one retained the ink. There will always be some ink left, hence the need to find a dark, dark design to cover it with! Once you’ve baked as much of the ink off as you can, you can resub without the need to add more sublimation coating. I’m not sure how many times you can do it, but from my experience, it definitely works one time! Thanks for watching!
@industrialfringe953 Thank you
Did it burn on the bottom of the tumblers? What is that on the last ones bottom?
I had to go back and look at the video, because I knew none of them burnt on the bottom (except the glass one and the mug a little bit)! I had previously put a rubber bottom on that tumbler, and when I removed the rubber bottom, some of the adhesive didn’t come off, but I didn’t notice. That adhesive browned up. I was able to remove it with a little GooGone. The learning on my part? Remove all the adhesive BEFORE I rebake a tumbler! Thanks for watching!
Can I bake off a mistake on a glow in the dake tumbler
That’s a great question! I’m not sure, but I’d definitely give it a try if I had one! Thanks for watching!
I have a stupid question. I'm new at this & I did something stupid. I used my heat gloves to brab my tumbler out of the oven which I guess I shouldn't of done as they left marks on my rebaked tumbler. I also turned my tumbler 1/2 way as it way laying down & I heard I needed to do so if it didn't stand up. So my question is how do I remove the heat glove marks that have been left on the tumbler? I got a lot off but not all. I feel so stupid
I think these heat gloves aren't the best. They are the black with pink dots type. I think I need to invest in some new ones that don't melt when grabing a hot tumbler.
Oh, don’t feel bad, you’d laugh at all the mistakes I’ve made! I’m not 100% sure what you’re talking about, but it sounds like the heat from the rebaked tumbler caused some of the material to transfer from the gloves to the tumbler. It may have glued itself into the substrate. If you’ve removed everything by hand and there’s still some there, I would try baking it a little while longer to see if you can get it off of the tumbler when it’s hot. But maybe use some different gloves! Thanks so much for watching!
Hi there! I just did this process for some frosted glass cans and the yellowing was obvious. Was there another process ypu used to get the yellowing under control?
Hey, Heather! The only process I used was baking in the oven. Without knowing the time and temp, if yellowing happened to me, I’d back off of the time (and/or temp) a little. Thanks for watching!
Hi, do you set the oven on bake or Convection?
Hey, Angie! I set the oven to convection. Convection gives a more consistent heat through the interior of the oven so you don’t need to rotate! Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much!!! I have several I can fix now thanks to you!!! 😁
Fantastic! Thanks for taking the time to watch!
Do you think the ink goes inside the tumbler when it’s baking off?
No more so than creating a new one in an oven, although it is in there longer. I’ve heard a few people say you should cover the opening so the gas can’t get inside. If you think you should, by all means, do so. I personally don’t think it’s an issue, as I believe it’s completely safe once it gets back below 350 degrees. But do what makes you feel most comfortable! Thanks for watching!
What about the bottoms? I noticed on a couple of them, they were brownish from where you had them in the oven for so long. What did you do about that?
Well, the Walmart frosted one was messed up all around, so it was trash! With the exception of two, I didn’t have issues with the bottoms. And those two were because I didn’t get the sticky stuff from the rubber bottom completely off. I ended up scrubbing them to pull most of it off. Then the little bit of what I couldn’t get was covered up by a new rubber bottom. Thanks for watching!
Awesome!! Thank you!!
Very helpful thanks a bunch! Can it be put again in the oven after giving it a brake to cool off for another hour to continue discoloration if the print is still a little hard to get off 🤔 Im doing this on 12oz mugs
You can certainly try, but I’m pretty sure you won’t get more off. At some point, the bottom begins to darken, and I’d be afraid that may get too noticeable. Thanks for watching!
Is that an adjustable table over the oven?
Yes, kinda! I built my whole setup with black iron pipe and wood for the shelving, trimmed in a darker wood. I absolutely love it because it’s strong, and I can reconfigure whenever I need to! Thanks for watching!
I dont have this oven. Can I do this in my regular oven? Or my press?
Hey, Rita! You NEVER want to sublimate in an oven you use for food! I’m thinking a press may work, but in my opinion, it would be way too much on the press just for saving one substrate. I would go to a local thrift shop and see if you can get a convection or toaster oven for a few dollars. (If it’s not convection, you’ll just need to rotate it often.) thanks for watching!
@@industrialfringe953 Thank you! I will. I am actually watching more if your vids now ❤️
Can I use a regular oven? Or does it need to be a one of these smaller ovens
Hey, Hippie Chick Creations! (I absolutely love that name!) You can, but you can’t use it to cook food in. The best is a small countertop convection oven. If you’re looking, try a thrift store. And while convection is better, a regular toaster will probably work, you’ll just need to manually turn it once or twice during the bake. Again, don’t ever use an oven you’d cook your food in! The process of sublimation releases gases that you do not want in your food! Thanks for watching!
I recently read a comment about covering the opening of a tumbler otherwise it’s not food/drink safe. Is that correct?
I’ve not heard of that, but I always suggest leaning toward what’s safe! It’s my understanding that you can wash the inside out and it will be fine, but…safety first! Thanks for watching!
Awesome video!! Thanks so much for taking the time to create and test these! I guess after just recently purchasing a tumbler press I will now be in search of a convection oven I like that you can sublimated more than 1 at a time and now I see I can save them too! Wow!! Wanted to ask where you got your rotation devise I am having a hard time posting good pics and/or videos of my finished tumblers!! Love your channel!! Thanks again!! Love the lizard eye tumbler and guitar…wow wow wow gorgeous!! ❤- christine
Thanks so much!!! I would definitely look at a thrift store to try and find a convection oven. A toaster oven would work as well, you just have to rotate the tumbler a bit. I got the rotation device on Amazon. I’ve since seen a couple (on Amazon) that I like better! Just search rotating display stand! Thanks again, and thanks for watching!
Do you use your oven also for food
NO! Never, ever use an oven for food and sublimation! Gasses are released when sublimating (whether subbing something on or trying to burn something off), so only use an oven dedicated to only sublimation! If you don’t have one, try a local thrift shop. Thanks again for watching!
Wow! I'm amazed at how well the golf club / dragon tumbler came out. I've always assumed that a messed up all-over design was a hopeless cause. I guess it's possible to fix if you're careful to choose the right image for resubbing.
It did come out quite well! And you’re absolutely right, it’s all about picking the right dark image for what you’re trying to cover up! Thanks for watching!
Is there another “‘heating” process? I don’t have an oven and I only have one tumbler.
I don’t know of another way, but my suggestion would be to scour thrift stores (Goodwill, Salvation Army, etc.)for an old used toaster or convection oven. (Convection is the way to go, but if you’re just burning off an image and you’re prepared to rotate the tumbler every 10-15 minutes, I imagine an regular toaster oven would work.) Good luck, and thanks for watching!
Thank you so much. This was so flipping helpful. 🤗
I’m SO stinkin’ glad! Thanks for watching!
Hi there! Thanks so much for this video I had a glass can I had messed up. All the ink pretty much went away but the rim and bottom of the glass turned orange. Any idea if it’s fixable or what caused it?
Oh,wow, I’ve not heard of that happening. My Walmart glass can got all funky on me. My first thought would be to look at temp and maybe time? Could they have been in there to long or too hot? That’s all I can think of. Thanks so much for watching, and here’s to you figuring it out. Let me know!
Has anyone ever tried to fade a shimmer tumbler? I know they sub at lower temps, and burn easily. Is it a total loss?
Can this work in a regular oven?
NO, not if you’re going to use it for food! You don’t want to use any oven for food and sublimation, as the process of sublimation releases gases. Check your local thrift stores for a small convection or toaster oven. Thanks for watching!
It's like a bad tattoo cover. Thanks for doing this.
Too funny! Yes, it is!
Thank you for this video!
Thanks for watching!
So my tumbler is to tall to stand up in convection oven so can I lay in there to try and do this? Would I just need to turn it several times? When I sub on them I have to lay in oven which comes out great so wasn’t sure when trying to burn image off if this would work.
I haven’t needed to do that yet, but I would just about bet that if you’re making them in the oven that way, you should be fine with baking the image off that way. But yes, I would turn it often. (I would probably turn every 10-15 minutes, but I may be a little OCD about it!) Thanks for watching!
can this be done in an Air Fryer?
That’s a great question! Probably, as you’re looking for something that’ll be hot for a period of time. Thanks for watching!
thank you for an excellent video!! very well done. subscribed :)
Excellent, Lisa! Thanks for watching and for subscribing!
Is it the design that makes the seam on the product ?
Hey, Angela. I’m not 100% sure what the question is, but I’m gonna take a stab! The seam is made from the two sides of the image touching each other. If the image is designed to be seamless and the tumbler is wrapped perfectly, you won’t see a seam. If the design isn’t made to be seamless, or if the wrap isn’t spot on, you can see a seam. And some people (me!) often build a seam into the design. I hope that answers your question! Thanks so much for watching!
I shrink wrapped clear glass and frosted glass cans and the shrink wrap absorbed a lot of the design, enough so that I could put a darker image on it. Looks weird from the inside but the outside was decent.
Interesting. I heard a few people have issues getting the shrink wrap off the glass. It’s great to know you didn’t have that issue! Thanks for sharing, and thanks for watching!
How do you get your designs to print so bright?
I use cosmos ink and don’t use a color profile. I run everything through Photoshop (Elements) and print from Preview. Thanks for watching!
I tried this at 400 and did for 60 mins. and they weren't even close to white again. I put in for another 60 and they are just faded. Should I turn my oven up more?
You’re not going to get all the ink off, you just want to get enough off to try and add a darker design to cover it. If you haven’t yet, I’d make sure your oven is at the correct temp. Do you have an internal thermometer? At that point, you can increase the time and/or temp to get some of that ink off. Best of luck, and thanks for watching!
@@industrialfringe953 yes I do. I tried 450 today for an hour and it didn't even barely fade it anymore. Do I need to not choose any designs with any white since the white is usually the tumbler?