MATAN290 omg i was just about to comment that but saw someone else (you) comment it first (thinking the same thing) omg he really does indeed haha and his clothing.
This is really great info! I always thought clutch less upshifts would cause harm. Obviously if not done right but did not realize you could go through the gears that quick. Nice man!
Hello RJ! I just tried to clutch-less upshifts on my CBR250R after watching your video and it worked perfectly. As you said, clutch-less upshift is quicker, smoother and faster. After that, I will practice and practice about it. Many thanks for the priceless tips. It is really helpful for a newbie like me. Cheers
I tried it today and it WORKS!! So smooth, only have to get the 1st to 2nd gear shift right, which is a bit shocky. From 2nd to 6th is effortless. Thanks for the tips and better riding experience, RJ!
I learned it without even noticing. Don't know how, don't know why. At some point I started to upshift exactly like you do. It's perfect, smooth and quick!
Nice video. The thing I like about quickshifters is you can change with the throttle wide open. Then again, clutchless works on pretty much everything :o)
You can tell a lot about someone who takes their glove off to shake a fans hand. Nice touch. Thanks for the video - it will help a noob like me enjoy the ride even more.
Even though I'm still not really sure about the safety (for the gearbox) of this way of shifting, I have to admit you DO achieve doing it reaaaally fast and smoothly. And since you wrote in the description it is YOUR way of doing it and YOUR opinion, I really feel like giving a thumb up to this informative video. Thank you RJ :)
i tried the clutchless upshift technique on my suzuki gsx400 f from 1982 just a few hours ago, worked like a charm :D, man i drove threw half of europa a few years ago and never knew this, well i proves you got to learn from other bikers, thanks mate!
i was doing it for a while but i stopped because of a stupid told me that it could damage my bike gearbox but now after this video am gonna do it without worries ....... thanks a lot RJ
It does NOT reduce "gear precision" and it does NOT wear it down more than using your clutch. If anything, you clutch gets worn down faster from all the use if you use the clutch. The gearbox has a type of "clutch gear" of it's own that engages when there's torque. So when you don't pull the throttle or enginebrake, it "disengages" allowing you to shift without hurting any gears.
nope. If the synchronism of the shift is not perfect you can have as a result a slight resistance that forces the selector forks and/or, when the timing of the shift is really wrong, a severe shock of the gear that finally gets in. It varies from model to model but, in the end, using the clutch is safer. I use to change without clutch in certain circumstances like when I have one hand busy (like when I'm carrying something delicate on the tank), when I perform rocket style acceleration or when the clutch cable breaks (sometimes it occurs)...but I wouldn't recommend this practice as the best practice for bikers who really care for their bikes.
It really easy to time it tough and if you've done it a few times, the risk of doing it wrong is incredibly small. The synchronism of the shift will always be perfect as long as it takes less than about 0.6 seconds to do after releaseing the throttel, as long as you gearclutch isn't broken (the spring can break). It's just as safe to upshift without clutch as it is with a clutch unless you have no idea at all what you're doing. The gearclutch is there for that very purpose. The only time a "severe shock" to the gear will happen is if you downshift without clutch, or if you shift while holding the throttel, as the clutchgear will always be disingaged unless theres torque, unless it's broken.
Great video, RJ! I took the time to learn clutchless shifting and now I love doing it. Makes it more smooth and fast on the upshift that using the clutch. Downshifts aren't too bad either as long as I'm in the higher RPMs.
OMG that was the most awesome shifting I've ever seen. Can't believe I never tried this. I'm going to try on a Ducati Diavel today. I'll hopefully not die. LOL. Sub'd!
Quick shifters come into there own when you have the throttle pinned wide open at the rev limiter. That's what they were designed for. But I agree clutch less shifting lower down the rev range is probably just as quick if not quicker that a qs.
also using a QS at low rev's isnt good for the gearbox and clutch. I know a lot of racers that wont even use them from 1-2 saying its also too harsh on the box.
I clutchless shift from 1-2 no problem.the guys that I know that race said you dont use a QS from 1-2 as the kill time is longer and this is harsh on the box.I know that hm also have a failsafe that the QS will not work below a certain rev as they are designed for high rev shifting only.
Tom Hill I've never once had any issues with a gearbox shifting from first to second clutchless, nor have I had any issues slipping into neutral doing that. To one up that, you are basing this on opinion whereas I have taken apart all of my bikes, even motocross bikes, and been inside the transmission and gearbox. It is simple to split the case and go through it when I am doing a rebuild, I do bottom and top end rebuilds often on all of my bikes and at the same time I set all the valves true and go through the transmission and replace any worn or bad cogs. I have never found a bad cog between first and second, and not only that they are constant mesh transmissions and there are no bad internal cogs inside of the actual bar that the main gears rest upon. I do not often clutchless shift from first to second though, because I get a bit of an oomph when doing it, the distance between first and second gear on all of my bikes are so wide that it's not worth the time saved to clutchless shift there.
Hello RJ I am thinking of buying a Quick Shifter, and after seeing your video comparison was thinking about the following: The aim of the Quickshift, is to pass the gearbox at high speeds faster. In my opinion is an extra that makes little sense to walk at low speed ... but no doubt giving style :) Good videos;)
I just bought a quick shifter today for my 22 Husqvarna FE501 Supermoto. Can't wait to fit it. Great for flat out shifting. When l raced MX on 2 strokes l just held it wide open and shifted without a clutch. Riding on dirt is way more forgiving on gearboxes though.
So from my understanding you don't need to depress the clutch lever to up shift but you need to cancel the throttle momentarily. But for downshifting you must depress the clutch lever? And this is not damaging to the gearbox at all?
When I was learning to ride geared bikes back in my L plate days I discovered clutchless shifting through forgetting to use the clutch but I found the bike was happy with it, in fact it sounded better changing up and seemed quicker so I just continued with it and now many years later it's just second nature.
When riding slow it's not that hard cause there's not much to do about rev matching. Going hard I still can't figure it out... Last bike I tried was a Suzuki GN250 and be amazed, it's smoother clutchless then using the clutch.
You can clutchless down shift, is abit rough though I used to do it on a 125cc because you can't do much wrong on a 125 lol and I didn't care for abusing it
Just bought a ZX6R last week with a quickshifter already installed. Never rode with a quickshifter before, but it isn't as much fun without clutching it. At first, it didn't even feel like I'd gone to 2nd because the shift was so smooth. Also, sometimes the box gets jammed at 2nd at low revs. Weird not having to throttle off and downshift rev matching isn't as much fun either. Or maybe I just need more practice.
Clutchless shifting only when you accelerate!!! When you drive at 30 mph and you think the revs are to high and you want to shift and drive after the shifting with 30 mph you have to use the clutch otherwise you fuck up the gearbox and the clutch. If anyone thinks I am wrong should he think how clutchless shifting works: When you accelerate is "pressure" on the gears when you now take the gas away is no pressure in the gears and you can change the gears thats why you have to do in the moment you take the gas away. I will not thank you for reading this but your motorcycle will😇
It took me a while to get the hang of it but it can be done very quickly. Rev matching is what you do when down shifting. I do not recommend quick shifting going up hill it is not as easy as using the clutch in some cases.
Hi Mr J I at last I have my nude after watching your vids for the last 7 years. My nuda sometimes is hard to get in gear anyway with clutch is this going to be difficult doing qs or not make any difference as avoiding the clutch. Do not want to break my bike lol. Thanks for all the vids. Meet up the g work. If you fancy a visit to la Palma I have a spare duke
is there an way the bike upshifts at high rpm automatically without doing anything ? and the same way for downshifting when you let go of the throttle? and going in natural? that would make the bike an big scooter lol
I have been practicing clutchless for a little while, and I also found that when i dont pre load i get a much smoother shift than when i load. but for some reason i find shifting from first to second a bit tricky.
when I do clutchless upshifts I don't come all the way off the gas, and I hear quick shifters are bad for your gearbox in the long run. more vids like this please!
I used to be able to clutchless shift all the time, but it's gotten stiffer over time to the point that it only works occasionally - whether that be because i've harmed the gearbox or lost my timing knack I have no clue :(
Do you have to get to a certain amount of revs to upshift, otherwise the bike would thrust you forward because of the engine speed vs road speed right? It would be like letting out the cluth to early on a bike/car when not thinking about revs.
My goal is smooth therefore I use just the right amount of clutch and throttle in combination. Every bike and every circumstance is a little different though but you end up mastering it. The best gearbox I've ever encountered was while test riding a honda cb1000r. I swear I didn't even know if the gear was changing or not it was that clean.
I just re-watched this upload "Quick Shifter vs. Clutchless upshifts" and was thinking it is probably more relevant now (May 2017) being three years later. In the early 80's when I was about 17/18 (53 at the time of writing this) I remember an older lad showing me how to make a gear "racing" change without using the clutch and have used the technique ever since. This actually uses the slack in the chain and gear components to momentarily disengage the engine forces so the gear shift can be made. It is slightly more difficult to clutch-less change a shaft drive bike. Would it be possible to make a dedicated video on how to make clutch-less changes which I think is getting to be a forgotten art with a lot of newer riders starting there riding experiences on "twist n go's".
Heyy !! So I've been shifting up clutchless on my bike for the past two days now and the thing is that I cannot kick start my bike now. You know that part where the kick starter resists the leg force and then you've to push to start it ? It now has a free motion throughout like when you pull the clutch and the kick starter goes throughout right ? Any idea on what the problem is ,have I effed up my gear train ?
I have something to ask Jordan, I'm using yamaha y15zr which is 150cc bike. can I do these thing? I tried sometimes but it only work sometimes like 2/15 times I tried.
So, a quick shifter is something you have to buy? I have a 2002 GSX-R 750 and I was able to shift without using the clutch as you did in your video. I do not believe the bike came with or has a quick shifter. It seems to be safe and does not seem to hurt anything when I do it. Should I still be doing it?
So Ive just started doing this on my bike, its amazing how smooth the ride becomes but I still dont get it 100% Most of the times I go from 1st to 2nd gear when the lever "clicks in" the bike acelerates and pushes me back... the higher the gear the less this happens... Throttle completely off, I guess I dont sync it too well yet, practice will tell. Downshifts are very easy with a blip of the throttle on LOW RPMs. I dont have the practice or the balls to try any of this at high rpms yet. Bike is a Iron883, Big hug from Chile.
as an old school courier(17 yrs bikin. 9 courering) clutchless ups were around b4 quickshifters. & down can be done the same as long as u get the revs matched. was doin them on bandit 6,, xj900 gt 550 ,& on an r1. can up shift on my xjr1300 like its auto. tbh haven't tried down shiftin on it yet lol
Great video. You are shifting at mid range revs. I find this also like you very easy to clutchless shift. Mostly because you are already off the throttle when you want to shift. If you are on throttle 100% and want to change it is much harder to off throttle and back on clutchless. Just hitting the gear is seemless. I think if you clutchless shift mid gear I think you are right.
When I learned for my car drivers license the instructor wanted me to try this (in a BMW). I did it twice and it didn't make a bad sound, but I don't think car gearboxes are designed to do it. Maybe I'm wrong. Sorry for my bad English
***** I know, that's why my instructor made me do it. He wanted to show it's possible. He even showed how to clutchless downshift by giving some gas, but I never tried that
+bayenne5b I had to use it in my car once, when the clutch was giving me trouble. It's good to know how to do it, although the car's gearbox won't like you much.
One can also do clutchless downshifts. I rode across town without using a brake just to see if it can be done (it wasn't during rush hour, mind you). But I must say it wasn't very practical, unless of course some one steals all your brakes and you have to make it home somehow. :)
I have a question. I recently got into bikes and I wonder, can you downshift without pressing in the clutch like you would in a car? Is there a different technique? or is it just impossible?
LOL , go figure. You prematurely get mad at him. and its a fan . HAHA Good video ive been working on doing this myself with both my bikes. Still working on timing.
Nice One.I do it in my Duke 690 from 1st to 4-5th without even a small sound coming from transmision if im spelling right. Some people when i say it they say its impossible lol Ride Daily brings everything
Not many places left to hide now RJ... lol :P
i felt so bad at the end. you were like what does this guy want? but then you stopped to give him your time and i felt a bit better for him haha.
lol, Why the fuck did you stop behind me?! Oh, it's a fan, okay then. xD
that guy actually sounded and looked like james may from top gear
long white hair ?
yea :D im telling you he looks just like him and sounds just like him
MATAN290 omg i was just about to comment that but saw someone else (you) comment it first (thinking the same thing) omg he really does indeed haha and his clothing.
MATAN290 I wonder if May actually does watch RJ's videos...
Now that would be cool.
Nah. He sound like Zoro
Coolest outake to date. Keep it up RJ... and well done you man from Cornwall!
Tried this on my cbr250 this morning! It works greatly on high revs, it doesn't on low revs. Great shifts anyway! THANKS RJ, awesome tips.
This is really great info! I always thought clutch less upshifts would cause harm. Obviously if not done right but did not realize you could go through the gears that quick. Nice man!
Hello RJ!
I just tried to clutch-less upshifts on my CBR250R after watching your video and it worked perfectly. As you said, clutch-less upshift is quicker, smoother and faster. After that, I will practice and practice about it.
Many thanks for the priceless tips. It is really helpful for a newbie like me.
Cheers
I tried it today and it WORKS!! So smooth, only have to get the 1st to 2nd gear shift right, which is a bit shocky. From 2nd to 6th is effortless. Thanks for the tips and better riding experience, RJ!
Out of all the moto related videos I watch daily, you Sir are the best!
I learned it without even noticing. Don't know how, don't know why. At some point I started to upshift exactly like you do. It's perfect, smooth and quick!
Nice video. The thing I like about quickshifters is you can change with the throttle wide open. Then again, clutchless works on pretty much everything :o)
You can tell a lot about someone who takes their glove off to shake a fans hand. Nice touch.
Thanks for the video - it will help a noob like me enjoy the ride even more.
Even though I'm still not really sure about the safety (for the gearbox) of this way of shifting, I have to admit you DO achieve doing it reaaaally fast and smoothly. And since you wrote in the description it is YOUR way of doing it and YOUR opinion, I really feel like giving a thumb up to this informative video. Thank you RJ :)
i tried the clutchless upshift technique on my suzuki gsx400 f from 1982 just a few hours ago, worked like a charm :D, man i drove threw half of europa a few years ago and never knew this, well i proves you got to learn from other bikers, thanks mate!
i was doing it for a while but i stopped because of a stupid told me that it could damage my bike gearbox but now after this video am gonna do it without worries ....... thanks a lot RJ
Actually in the long distance it can reduce gear precision...your friend was not so stupid
is just logic if using the clutch will always be the best option. The other may not be to harm full either or just a little tiny harmfully.
It does NOT reduce "gear precision" and it does NOT wear it down more than using your clutch. If anything, you clutch gets worn down faster from all the use if you use the clutch. The gearbox has a type of "clutch gear" of it's own that engages when there's torque. So when you don't pull the throttle or enginebrake, it "disengages" allowing you to shift without hurting any gears.
nope. If the synchronism of the shift is not perfect you can have as a result a slight resistance that forces the selector forks and/or, when the timing of the shift is really wrong, a severe shock of the gear that finally gets in.
It varies from model to model but, in the end, using the clutch is safer.
I use to change without clutch in certain circumstances like when I have one hand busy (like when I'm carrying something delicate on the tank), when I perform rocket style acceleration or when the clutch cable breaks (sometimes it occurs)...but I wouldn't recommend this practice as the best practice for bikers who really care for their bikes.
It really easy to time it tough and if you've done it a few times, the risk of doing it wrong is incredibly small. The synchronism of the shift will always be perfect as long as it takes less than about 0.6 seconds to do after releaseing the throttel, as long as you gearclutch isn't broken (the spring can break). It's just as safe to upshift without clutch as it is with a clutch unless you have no idea at all what you're doing. The gearclutch is there for that very purpose. The only time a "severe shock" to the gear will happen is if you downshift without clutch, or if you shift while holding the throttel, as the clutchgear will always be disingaged unless theres torque, unless it's broken.
Great video, RJ! I took the time to learn clutchless shifting and now I love doing it. Makes it more smooth and fast on the upshift that using the clutch. Downshifts aren't too bad either as long as I'm in the higher RPMs.
OMG that was the most awesome shifting I've ever seen. Can't believe I never tried this. I'm going to try on a Ducati Diavel today. I'll hopefully not die. LOL. Sub'd!
He died
• yeah but the diavel pulls hard so you really fly. :o)
Quick shifters come into there own when you have the throttle pinned wide open at the rev limiter. That's what they were designed for. But I agree clutch less shifting lower down the rev range is probably just as quick if not quicker that a qs.
also using a QS at low rev's isnt good for the gearbox and clutch.
I know a lot of racers that wont even use them from 1-2 saying its also
too harsh on the box.
Tom Hill Benn clutchless shifting on all manner of bikes over the past 35 years, right from first and never had a problem
I clutchless shift from 1-2 no problem.the guys that I know that race said you dont use a QS from 1-2 as the kill time is longer and this is harsh on the box.I know that hm also have a failsafe that the QS will not work below a certain rev as they are designed for high rev shifting only.
Tom Hill I've never once had any issues with a gearbox shifting from first to second clutchless, nor have I had any issues slipping into neutral doing that. To one up that, you are basing this on opinion whereas I have taken apart all of my bikes, even motocross bikes, and been inside the transmission and gearbox. It is simple to split the case and go through it when I am doing a rebuild, I do bottom and top end rebuilds often on all of my bikes and at the same time I set all the valves true and go through the transmission and replace any worn or bad cogs. I have never found a bad cog between first and second, and not only that they are constant mesh transmissions and there are no bad internal cogs inside of the actual bar that the main gears rest upon.
I do not often clutchless shift from first to second though, because I get a bit of an oomph when doing it, the distance between first and second gear on all of my bikes are so wide that it's not worth the time saved to clutchless shift there.
I have seen damage from quick shifting first to second.its the second to sixth mesh and selector fork that gets it.replaced a good few in my time.
i really like your technique, tried it and it worked!
I am loving the way RJ explains things.
I don't often use clutch ;)
And i like the way that you are happy to talk to subscribers and shit like that. Good man, keep it up :)
I love to shift without making use of the clutch! But always thought it might cause damage, thanks for clearing that up
i had no idea that this was a thing... RJ.. you are a life saver sometimes :)
Great to get your angle on the clutchless shift and quickshifter thing RJ.
What are the odds indeed!!?? Nice respectful subscriber there ;)
Nice vid mate! I've even performed clutch less shifts on my cruiser. Works really well. Ride safe.
Great Vid RJ!! Hope you do some more like this
Face it RJ, you're a star ;)
No pressure to the shifter before shifting... check!
Good to see you're talking in your videos now!
Nice Clear video! :) I first did load up ,, but now i'll try without :) thanks for the tips!
Love the ending with a viewer/fan. Awesome.
Hello RJ
I am thinking of buying a Quick Shifter, and after seeing your video comparison was thinking about the following:
The aim of the Quickshift, is to pass the gearbox at high speeds faster. In my opinion is an extra that makes little sense to walk at low speed ... but no doubt giving style :)
Good videos;)
Doing this on my YZF-125R now even though it does not make my slow turtle go faster it's a lot more fun ^_^ thanks for explaining so well RJ
God I am so old.... My excuse is haven't ridden a Bike in years (last Bike CBR1000F). You see you are a good guy to so many people.
RJ, I love how your accent comes and goes. It's hilarious!
Keep up with the nice videos
I've recently started doing clutchless upshifts and I have to agree RJ, it makes riding much more enjoyable :)
Yeah 1st to 2nd is gonna be jerky on a 125 so I rarely do it haha
+HamSpamJamLamb i'll have to give it a try then. This makes me want to go out and try it now, but it's 1:30 am
+Marksman2oo7 lol do it!
I always upshift clutchless on my (01) R1, it's quicker, smoother, quieter and less effort in my opinion. Great vid RJ, keep them coming. 👍
nice video as always RJ
wow I never knew you could do this if feels so good when you do a smooth clutchless shift
Thank you very good information, I am a motocross guy and in competition you do not have time to use the clutch after tacking off.
The quick shift sounds good , still use to doing the clutch thing though . Good video ...
I just bought a quick shifter today for my 22 Husqvarna FE501 Supermoto. Can't wait to fit it. Great for flat out shifting. When l raced MX on 2 strokes l just held it wide open and shifted without a clutch. Riding on dirt is way more forgiving on gearboxes though.
Can't wait for the akras to arrive for your bike RJ!!
So from my understanding you don't need to depress the clutch lever to up shift but you need to cancel the throttle momentarily. But for downshifting you must depress the clutch lever? And this is not damaging to the gearbox at all?
Thanks for the upload!
Great ending RJ
;)
When I was learning to ride geared bikes back in my L plate days I discovered clutchless shifting through forgetting to use the clutch but I found the bike was happy with it, in fact it sounded better changing up and seemed quicker so I just continued with it and now many years later it's just second nature.
Next ... clutchless downshifting ;)
When riding slow it's not that hard cause there's not much to do about rev matching. Going hard I still can't figure it out... Last bike I tried was a Suzuki GN250 and be amazed, it's smoother clutchless then using the clutch.
You can clutchless down shift, is abit rough though I used to do it on a 125cc because you can't do much wrong on a 125 lol and I didn't care for abusing it
Very nice, man!
Was that James May at the end there?
I thought so too until I heard the voice lol
late reply but he sounds little bit like May.
He has long hair
i tried it and it was smooth RJ thanks ;)
Does anyone know how old RJ is? Or is it just his accent making him sound older?
Great inspiration nontheless.
Thnx for the explanation :) Liked the vid ;)
Thanks for the video RJ :) will defiantly give it ago!
Just bought a ZX6R last week with a quickshifter already installed. Never rode with a quickshifter before, but it isn't as much fun without clutching it. At first, it didn't even feel like I'd gone to 2nd because the shift was so smooth. Also, sometimes the box gets jammed at 2nd at low revs. Weird not having to throttle off and downshift rev matching isn't as much fun either. Or maybe I just need more practice.
Great video I practise all the time but still have to use the clutch most of the time.ride safe cya
during downshift do we engage the cluctch or that can be clutchless too?
thnx for the video very informative.
I like the "Outtake" Are you Royal Jordan ? :D
Clutchless shifting only when you accelerate!!! When you drive at 30 mph and you think the revs are to high and you want to shift and drive after the shifting with 30 mph you have to use the clutch otherwise you fuck up the gearbox and the clutch. If anyone thinks I am wrong should he think how clutchless shifting works: When you accelerate is "pressure" on the gears when you now take the gas away is no pressure in the gears and you can change the gears thats why you have to do in the moment you take the gas away.
I will not thank you for reading this but your motorcycle will😇
Haha the ending was pretty cool
It took me a while to get the hang of it but it can be done very quickly. Rev matching is what you do when down shifting. I do not recommend quick shifting going up hill it is not as easy as using the clutch in some cases.
Hi Mr J I at last I have my nude after watching your vids for the last 7 years. My nuda sometimes is hard to get in gear anyway with clutch is this going to be difficult doing qs or not make any difference as avoiding the clutch. Do not want to break my bike lol. Thanks for all the vids. Meet up the g work. If you fancy a visit to la Palma I have a spare duke
is there an way the bike upshifts at high rpm automatically without doing anything ?
and the same way for downshifting when you let go of the throttle? and going in natural? that would make the bike an big scooter lol
I have been practicing clutchless for a little while, and I also found that when i dont pre load i get a much smoother shift than when i load. but for some reason i find shifting from first to second a bit tricky.
ive once had my clutch cable snapped in the middle of a commute, ive learnt clutchless upshifts and downshifts since then.
when I do clutchless upshifts I don't come all the way off the gas, and I hear quick shifters are bad for your gearbox in the long run. more vids like this please!
What video quality he uses for his videos? They look so clear!
How is it with downshifting?
I can do it almost as smooth as upshifting without the clutch, but how about the quickshifter?
I used to be able to clutchless shift all the time, but it's gotten stiffer over time to the point that it only works occasionally - whether that be because i've harmed the gearbox or lost my timing knack I have no clue :(
great vidio got to try it out on the v-strom now,just hope it works ok.
Do you have to get to a certain amount of revs to upshift, otherwise the bike would thrust you forward because of the engine speed vs road speed right? It would be like letting out the cluth to early on a bike/car when not thinking about revs.
My goal is smooth therefore I use just the right amount of clutch and throttle in combination. Every bike and every circumstance is a little different though but you end up mastering it. The best gearbox I've ever encountered was while test riding a honda cb1000r. I swear I didn't even know if the gear was changing or not it was that clean.
Is that a hair oiler I see on the side of your s1000r? I take it you recommend them?
I just re-watched this upload "Quick Shifter vs. Clutchless upshifts" and was thinking it is probably more relevant now (May 2017) being three years later.
In the early 80's when I was about 17/18 (53 at the time of writing this) I remember an older lad showing me how to make a gear "racing" change without using the clutch and have used the technique ever since. This actually uses the slack in the chain and gear components to momentarily disengage the engine forces so the gear shift can be made. It is slightly more difficult to clutch-less change a shaft drive bike.
Would it be possible to make a dedicated video on how to make clutch-less changes which I think is getting to be a forgotten art with a lot of newer riders starting there riding experiences on "twist n go's".
Hey man, may I ask where you're from? It's been bugging me for a while now and the accent is pretty sweet.
Sounds terrific on the Nuda when you blast through the gears like that.
ha ha liked the outtake.......you never know who you will meet
Heyy !! So I've been shifting up clutchless on my bike for the past two days now and the thing is that I cannot kick start my bike now. You know that part where the kick starter resists the leg force and then you've to push to start it ? It now has a free motion throughout like when you pull the clutch and the kick starter goes throughout right ? Any idea on what the problem is ,have I effed up my gear train ?
Haha I know where that spot is too... the river and the sports center is the giveaway ;) Nice info.
waning to you who never do this trick, it can cause uncontrollable smile when the first time you nail it.
LoL That was funny about being spotted but Great info about shifting though! The day you stop learning is the day you die!
Ride safe my friend!
I have something to ask Jordan, I'm using yamaha y15zr which is 150cc bike. can I do these thing? I tried sometimes but it only work sometimes like 2/15 times I tried.
So, a quick shifter is something you have to buy? I have a 2002 GSX-R 750 and I was able to shift without using the clutch as you did in your video. I do not believe the bike came with or has a quick shifter. It seems to be safe and does not seem to hurt anything when I do it. Should I still be doing it?
How much will the gearbox be damaged while I try to learn clutchless shifting and try to make it better?
Hey RJ, do you happen to know whether I can add the Quickshifter from Healtech? On the Nuda is this Plug & Play as well?
So Ive just started doing this on my bike, its amazing how smooth the ride becomes but I still dont get it 100%
Most of the times I go from 1st to 2nd gear when the lever "clicks in" the bike acelerates and pushes me back... the higher the gear the less this happens... Throttle completely off, I guess I dont sync it too well yet, practice will tell.
Downshifts are very easy with a blip of the throttle on LOW RPMs. I dont have the practice or the balls to try any of this at high rpms yet.
Bike is a Iron883, Big hug from Chile.
as an old school courier(17 yrs bikin. 9 courering) clutchless ups were around b4 quickshifters. & down can be done the same as long as u get the revs matched. was doin them on bandit 6,, xj900 gt 550 ,& on an r1. can up shift on my xjr1300 like its auto. tbh haven't tried down shiftin on it yet lol
Mr Jordanian sir, I like your bikes ears, what make are they? Anyone?
Love the way you call them ears :) I presume you are talking about the mirrors. They are Rizoma Elisse.
RoyalJordanian Lol
what about on downshifts clutch less like Jake says? i do them up all the time up and occasionally down but that dosn't feel quite as easy
Great video.
You are shifting at mid range revs. I find this also like you very easy to clutchless shift. Mostly because you are already off the throttle when you want to shift.
If you are on throttle 100% and want to change it is much harder to off throttle and back on clutchless. Just hitting the gear is seemless.
I think if you clutchless shift mid gear I think you are right.
hello Jordanian tell me what is better or faster Quick Shifter or Cluchless upshifts ur Nuda 900R what have Quick Shifter? Thx,
When I learned for my car drivers license the instructor wanted me to try this (in a BMW). I did it twice and it didn't make a bad sound, but I don't think car gearboxes are designed to do it. Maybe I'm wrong. Sorry for my bad English
***** I know, that's why my instructor made me do it. He wanted to show it's possible. He even showed how to clutchless downshift by giving some gas, but I never tried that
+bayenne5b I had to use it in my car once, when the clutch was giving me trouble. It's good to know how to do it, although the car's gearbox won't like you much.
Thinking of putting an aftermarket quick shifter on my 2012 cbr1000rr but I'm scared it'll damage my gearbox, thoughts???
I get the concept but isn't there a small amount of load left because of the Pistons, crankshaft and clutch still moving at the old speed?
i did it first time today and it went perfectly :D
One can also do clutchless downshifts. I rode across town without using a brake just to see if it can be done (it wasn't during rush hour, mind you). But I must say it wasn't very practical, unless of course some one steals all your brakes and you have to make it home somehow. :)
I have a question. I recently got into bikes and I wonder, can you downshift without pressing in the clutch like you would in a car? Is there a different technique? or is it just impossible?
I wouldn't recommend it ;-) A motorcycle's transmission is not synchronized internally, car's is. It's a completely different world.
is it safe for the suzuki boulivard M90 ? as the gearbox in this bike is usually a mess already :D
LOL , go figure. You prematurely get mad at him. and its a fan . HAHA
Good video ive been working on doing this myself with both my bikes.
Still working on timing.
Does the nuda's torque help at all?
Nice One.I do it in my Duke 690 from 1st to 4-5th without even a small sound coming from transmision if im spelling right.
Some people when i say it they say its impossible lol
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