I actually watched this in elementary school and we had an assignment where we had to list as many book references as possible. While I do have a soft spot for this movie, I think this deserves a remake. They can modernize it and do the kid attached to his game console too much thing. Christopher Lloyd is still alive and could reprise his role as the librarian. Make it happen, Hollywood!
@@gmanz8487 Exactly like Jumanji for how it’s both a reboot and a sequel at the same time. You don’t have to watch the original, but it enhances the experience.
Did you know that there was a PC game tie in to The Pagemaster that acts like a sequel to the movie of sorts? MeltingMan234 talked about it in his Forgotten Media Mixed Batch episode.
I really LOVE How each book has a different kind of category. It can even progress even further. *Fantasy* 🌟🐉🦄 *Adventure* 🗺🧭⚔ *Horror* ☠👻⚰ *Kid-Friendly* 🌈🌺🎨 *Comedy* 🤡🎭🎪 *Action* 🦸♂💥⚡ *Music* 🎼🎶🎵 *Science* 🛸🧬⚗ *Education* 🎓✏📘 *Epic* 🌩🌌🌍
This is one of those movies that I constantly played on repeat as a child. I once got in trouble for telling a visitor that they looked like Horror (I was young enough to not think it was an insult) 😂
Uruveil I remember once when my grandmother was watching me we watched this movie together and as soon it was done we rewound the tape and watched it again
Aw. Flawed as it may be, this movie contributed to my love of reading growing up. It made it seem like each book was filled with mysterious meaning and worlds and memorable people; it gave books Power, and worth beyond its price-- a pretty notion that I learned to hold onto, despite the onset of the cynicism of adulthood. Now, at 26 years old, I've got a well-loved library, and it's hard to look at the shelves and not imagine that they're somehow sitting there and quietly waiting for me like old pals, like Horror, Fantasy, and Adventure. So I'd personally consider this movie a huge success in every regard. Yes, it's gross bias. Read like an adult, enjoy it like a child.
And I know he's kinda creepy... But as a child I was totally enamoured by LLoyd's librarian speech. I love how he works at a library and he treats it like the most amazing job imaginable
What's the story Wishbone? What's this you're dreaming of? Such big imagination on such a little pup. What's the story Wishbone? Do you think it's worth a look? It kinda seems familiar like a story from a book. Shake a leg now Wishbone! Let's wag another tail. Sniffin' out adventure with Wishbone on the trail. Come on Wishbone! What's the story Wishbone? (three guesses on what was my favorite show as a kid)
In one way, I find myself crushing on Raven just due to her voice. But at the same time I dread her sudden appearance in the videos as I wonder why she’s appearing in these again. :-/
Thanks so much for this review! I loved this movie as a kid when I was in Nigeria. It was one of the first vhs cartoons my parents bought me. As you can guess, most of the references and stories were unfamiliar to me. But I actually developed a huge love of western literature thanks to this movie
it's also worth pointing up how good it is to have two reviewers talking about the same movie, because we see two different points of view, and while NC goes loud about the movie's problems and make fun of it, Bobsheaux never stops himself from looking what deserves to be given credit. And... this movie does have a few things in it's favour.
also, I reccomend Scott Westerfeld's Leviathan trilogy, it's a wonderfuly written and illustrated steampunk trilogy with some unique Verne-esque twists.
The best guess that I have for the living state of adventure, fantasy, and horror is the possibility that they're general anthologies of some variety containing multiple different sets of tropes and ideas in their multiple tales, becoming the physical representation/living apotheosis of their specified genre rather than singular stories that contain a singular interpretation of and perhaps world that revolves around said genre. Just a hypothesis though.
I'm a little nostalgic for this movie, but yeah, it's pretty flawed and doesn't do a very good job at conveying how awesome reading is. I always wished that Moby Dick part of the film was longer, though. It's just such a cool scene and it makes me crave a full length animated Moby Dick adaptation.
I actually remember watching this film in elementary. The teacher probably showed it just to distract us. This movie scared me a bit because I thought more and more about it. A kid who possibly can't return home and is stuck in some imaginary world where he has no way of defending himself. And its pretty coincidental that Leonard Nimoy and Frank Welker are in the same movie, because Frank Welker voices Megatron and Leonard Nimoy voices Galvatron. Also R.I.P. Leonard Nimoy
heh you know i think the message of the story which i think people miss in some ways, is that the kid wasn't truely living he was wanting to hide in fear, not wanting to enjoy life, it feels more like if the 'page master' had just sent him back to the real world. than the kid would've lived not understanding that sometimes you have to have abit of danger, its why I enjoy books its escape fantasy in some places but it also but it also gives me the urge to go out at point to actually have the adventures and experience XD though thats my idea of what the message of the movie is so I could be completely wrong.
See what I love about this movie is that everyone gets something different out of it. I was already an avid fiction reader as a child, so the message I mainly took from this is to basically not be an know-it-all. There's more to life spouting off facts won't get you lol.
I wandered how the promo art from the movie show the sword like a powerful weapon to fight the odds, and in the movie is just a regular sword who find it from a dead corpse and didn´t actually hit anything
I'm honestly tired of this "someone else already reviewed this" mentality. One person can bring an insight to a piece of media that someone else didn't. Also, like Bob said, no critic has the right to be the only one to give his two cents on something.
But what if someone *wants* to not review something that someone else already reviewed? What if they did feel that other person said pretty much all that they wanted? And what if they’re afraid that other person’s opinions might influence theirs, and they might steal points from that review, intentionally or otherwise? Just saying.
Maybe the reason Adventure, Fantasy, and Horror are alive and the other books aren't is because they're not _like_ regular books. Their names are what genre they are, not specific titles like "Treasure Island" or "The Curious Case of Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde". Maybe they're anthologies, or designated mascots for their section of the library?
Imagine if the page master was remade into a tv series. Maybe a Netflix series. Where the first episode is the live action stuff, though probably a different set up, and then either the second episode he goes to the library or it's introducing the books. Then the next episodes each showcase a book. It goes back and forth between the genres, but gives each a decent amount of exposure. Maybe two parts so each can tell a full story. Maybe they end the first season in a cliff hanger twist that keeps the kid in the realm. Either that or he just decides to return if they decide to make a second season. I'm sure the page master would just be a promise like the wizard of oz who doesn't show up until near the end.
This was one of the most rewatched movies of my childhood and always had a special play in my heart... And I've always been terrified to revisit it because I'm scared of coming to the realization it sucked. It's still a pretty damn fantastic looking movie, if nothing else.
I saw this in a theater at release and feel asleep because of a bad migraine and didn't finish it until a few years ago. Pagemaster, not Bobsheaux's review!
I actually love this movie, I consider it to be one of my top 10 favorite animated movies of all time. I actually like Richard's character development, teaching people that they shouldn't always live their life in fear. As for the books used in the movie, I see them more as a unique way to develop Richard. As for the animation and soundtrack, there's no denying that they are top-notch. The animation is lush and colorful, complete with high-quality designs, and James Horner really captured the feel of the movie, the two songs in the movie, Whatever You Imagine and Dream Away are also pluses, and I fell that they are underrated movie ballads. My only complaint with the movie is that I wish it was somewhat longer, I heard that some of the scenes were omitted from the movie, and I hope that a Director's Cut comes to fruition. All in all, I say that The Pagemaster is the most unfairly lambasted movie I have ever seen, I understand your opinion on the movie, but to each of their own, amirite?
I was a kid when this movie came around and it's been one of my childhood favorites. Don't get me wrong. Your review was very funny, but it taught me everything about using my imagination and that's why this film has been stuck with me ever since.
This film deserves a remake in my opinion. I like that angle you mentioned of Richard learning that escaping into fiction doesn't always help your problems. It would be a relevant message considering pop culture obsession nowadays and offer the perspective of not letting your imagination control you. Maybe his arc would work better if he felt more like a social outcast at school and starts to retreat into books as a way of avoiding social interaction. This would result in frequent library visits leading up to when he ends up in the fictional world. He has to face the bad guys head on, and learn that its worth taking risks. This movie could do with more scary imagery as well to further boost the message.
Critics are NOT supposed to change your opinion on anything that you enjoy. They’re just supposed to give their point of view in a much more detailed way than I like it or I didn’t like it.
If I had my way with the Pagemaster,First,I would make Richard Tyler an internet geek who ONLY cares about computers 'till,as the movie goes on,learns the value and importance of books and starts to warmup and care about them.Second,change the character designs like Richards animated form(I do not like his lips at all),especially Adventure,Fantasy and Horror,come on they look like Webster from Beauty and the Beast:Belle's Magical World with arms and legs.Then finally, have a plot twist that the librarian is the titular Pagemaster all along
Heh. A computer nerd who doesn't see the value in literature. I like it. :) I don't have a lot of time to dedicate to recreational reading myself, but there was something very satisfying about recently getting a Barnes & Noble exclusive collection of penny dreadfuls. lol
He wasn't a bookworm so much as he was a nerd, focused on science, statistics, and facts not works of fiction. I don't find out all that unreasonable for him to have given any attention to fictional works of horror, fantasy, and adventure. Also, on why those books were sentient, I'd offer it was because they were Genres in book form. A genre compilation, not just a single story or novel.
This is one of the very few things that I think deserves a remake. Definitely has a good concept with potential but the characters are flatter than the paper they're drawn on.
I remember reading Robert Louis Stevenson's masterpieces. just saw this movie very recently. The library intro is indeed very creepy and didn't age well, but it's still one of my favorite movies growing up.
Two reviews virtually back-to-back! We're pretty much spoiled today. I'm surprised that this one got the box but I can understand, it looks like a disjointed montage of nicely animated classic stories that doesn't know what to do with itself. What books would I recommend? There's plenty but I can't overstate how much I like All The Wrong Questions by Lemony Snicket. Drop whatever you're doing and go read it, it's good.
Just like in the Wizard of Oz where Dorothy learns a lesson by not being told to click her heels right away (thus negating the point of the story) the Pagemaster wants Richard to get over his fears by going on an adventure through the stories in the books (being that written word can't hurt you) the question to be asking is how did the Pagemaster or Librarian know Richard had to learn such a lesson? He has that wise smile at the end when Richard runs off. Is he all knowing? Did he recognize him from around town? More over the dream is made to seem real otherwise how would the real world version of the Pagemaster know that Richard had changed. For all he knew it was just a kid who changed his mind about checking out books and fell on the floor. Is he a wizard? The movie never explains it.
Yeah that made me mad with Wizard of Oz why the Good Witch didn't tell Dorothy right away how she could get back home. Her reason being, "You would have never believed me". Are you kidding me?
Eeeh, I gotta disagree a little. He didn't just run away from all the dangers in his adventure, he confronted most of them, helped save his friends in all of them, and needed to use a combination of strength, speed, and quick wits to make it all the way to the Exit. The idea is that journey is the most important part of a story and you can't ever have a story if you never do anything. I remember liking this movie as a kid. I'm sure it doesn't hold up as well as I remember, but I can still appreciate the animation, which was dramatic, creative, and beautiful. It's message is ham-fisted, but it's got enough positives to be entertaining for younger audiences.
"I'm a toon!" Would have been the perfect part to dub in another Christopher Lloyd sound byte: "Not just any toon!" Man, I wonder why nobody goes to that library anymore. Another end credits sequence related to Jim Henson. I guess you really do miss the magic. Cheer up, Bob. Look what I've got. It's a Twinkie wiener sandwich! Your favorite.
If two books have sex, they are stuck. (Seriously, check out the Telephone Book Friction Thing, by the Mythbusters. It's Awesome.) Also at 2:35 : 8% of accidents involve ladders, 3% involve trees DOES NOT EQUAL an 11% chance of an excident involving a tree and a ladder. Because Accidents involving Ladders AND Trees is a subset of accidents with trees, the percentage of accidents with ladders and trees is smaller than (or equal to) 3%.. (It could only be equal to 3% if every accident with a tree, also involved a ladder.) (Pressuming ladder-accidents and tree-accidents are independent, then the percentage of ladder-and-tree-accidents would be 0.24%, by the way. But they probably aren't independent.) Besides that you can't just add odds, like that, there also is another reason why there isn't a chance of 11% on an accident. These percenteges, 8% and 3%, are a percentege of the number of accidents, not the chance of an accident. That's an incredible important distinction. (But because the Chance Of Accidents isn't given here, it's impossible to say what the chance is. I'm very sceptical it's 11%, because people use ladders all the time, and it only goes wrong (relatively) occasional. (In practice the chance of an accident is a very hard number to research. People don't usually count how many times they did not fall of a ladder.) I'm sorry about this rambling, but statistics and probability are kind of my mathmatical passions, so i was triggered. My bad. :(
Idk I thought it was a nice movie. It got you interested in great literary works and characters. I once read the original Treasure Island novel. Because I knew it through The Muppet's Treasure Island and Disney's Treasure Planet.
I think if the main character was coded to be (or even blatantly stated to be) on the autism spectrum he would've been more sympathetic. And it would've made his awkwardness and obsession with statistics a lot less one-note. I like the Pagemaster's design though. His beard, hat, and staff all look like scrolls! And Patric Stewart as a pirate is *awesome*.
Autism wasn't really a thing back then, though. In 2000 only .07% of children were diagnosed with ASD, an estimated 1-2 out of a thousand people were thought to be on the spectrum. On top of that, the leading causes of ASD are genetic and pre-natal in nature. The way his parents were characterized I think it's safe to assume that His mom wasn't drinking and snorting lines while she was pregnant. Most poignantly, though, I don't think audiences would have been able to identify with a protagonist with, as it was thought to be at the time, an obscure developmental disorder. They probably would have felt it more cringy, to use the modern vernacular, than endearing.
14:49 Probably to cut costs. Then again, it's kind've a weird complaint because many animated movies cast celebrities with professional voice actors. After all, Zootopia had Jason Bateman, Idris Elba, Tommy Chong, and Octavia Spencer but also had Maurice Lamarche in a role that was bigger (relatively speaking) and more important than Tommy Chong's but I don't see anyone questioning that or saying "why didn't they get a bigger name instead?".
I think what they were trying to show was that he needed to learn to escape from the world once in a while. It wasn't fully that they were saying that you needed to read, it was that you needed to read something besides the bad things in the world. If someone watches the news that only has bad things going on, they would be afraid of every little thing, but if they watch the news sometimes and watches other things that are fun, action packed, and have happy endings at times, then things wouldn't seem always bad in the world. I think in that regard, they hit the nail on the head.
I watched this when I was a kid (mainly because my third grade teacher had the AWESOME idea of playing DVDs for the last few minutes before the bell rang) but I don’t have that big of a nostalgic connection
I don't hate this movie, but never understood it either, all because of the characterization of the protagonist. As you said; 'How could a kid who is so obsessed with statistics _not_ be a bookworm?' It doesn't make sense, and really works in reverse by reenforcing the idea books are nerd shit - which I'm pretty sure wasn't what they were striving for, yet it ended up becoming that by the director(s) and/or script writer's inability to recognize this flaw early on.
The movie should have emphasized that what the kid had been reading up to now was, as C.S. Lewis would say, "the wrong kind of books"- lifeless, boring stuff full of information that would be utterly useless to a kid like him - and that he should read more things that would teach lessons and nourish the imagination.
Kinda mental we were both working on a review for the exact same obscure 90s half live action half cartoon movie at the exact same time innit. Released mere days apart, it was a pretty sweet review, nice and slow, like a TV episode in it's own right. I liked it a lot. I need to know by the way, how do you make these 25 minute long reviews and get them out so frequently? Took me almost a week to make my video and it was only 7 minutes. I need your secret!
Okay, so you have a movie with several celebrities voicing some characters and a few non-celebrity voice actors voicing the others. I'm fine with that, after all in "Surf's Up (2007)," you have Shia LaBeouf, Zooey Deschanel, Jeff Bridges, James Woods, and the main villain is voiced by Diedrich Bader, a non-celebrity voice actor. If you think Frank Welker and Jim Cummings were strange casting choices for important characters, that's fine, but I don't.
I agree the movie definitely has its shortcomings but I still really enjoy seeing its message of overcoming fears and its awesome animation. Was I the only one absolutely terrified by Mr Hyde as a kid? XD
Fun fact: this version of Long John Silver was based off of the actor Robert Newton, who was not only famous as playing Long John Silver, but also began the stereotype of pirates going "Arrr, matey!"
This movie could have been more with the premise it had. I love the idea of a library coming to life, but I wish it was more about reading rather than just walking through a library, running away from everything and trying to find the exit. Could have been about managing a magic library as the kid learns to be the next Pagemaster.
Well one thing's for sure, I am *GLAD* I never saw this film growing up. I liked how the sections were indicative of their respective genre. and that's it. That was the coolest part.
Hey Bob! Long time watcher, first time commenter (I think?) I grew up with this movie, so I can say that this is a guilty pleasure of mine... I can admit that you did a better job of reviewing this than the Nostalgia Critic (I was screaming at his video for things he got wrong about the film- not for his opinions mind you) But please... Please tell me you didn't really think it was vertigo that made him fall. They focused on the water for a reason- he slipped on it as he was about to keep going. Other than that detail, I felt your insight was fair and balanced. This movie never made me want to read, but I usually watched this movie when I was home sick from school as a kid, and it always cheered me up because of how odd and funny it was to me. Thanks for making a better review of this movie than the Nostalgia Critic, who obviously didn't watch the movie enough to get the details correct for his own review. Thanks for doing your homework and paying attention to the stupid little details XD
Kind of funny to see him as a kid in his older films now a days when I’ve gotten so used to Mac as an adult due to seeing him many times on RLM’s Best Of The Worst videos.
Channel Hop: The film was produced entirely by Turner Pictures, but Turner sold the North American rights and half of the film's copyright to 20th Century Fox in order to avoid budget shortfalls (Turner retained TV and international rights).
I read a LOT as a kid and maybe I disliked this movie because of it - as it really, really simplified stories and books down to just three that are developed,.... and neither of the three are really for kids. This could have been a great story if he jumped from one book's plot to the other...
Ironically, it almost makes it seem like the people who made the movie hadn't actually _read_ the books they were portraying and were instead only going by the cliffnotes and various watered-down versions of the story you glean from pop culture. For example, when Jekyl and Hyde first came out, the two of them turning out to be the same person was actually the TWIST, whereas nowadays it's often the one thing you know about the story even if you're clueless about everything else. Heck, I'm not sure I would even call Jekyl and Hyde a _horror_ story, per se. It's more of a thriller/murder mystery story...
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I actually watched this in elementary school and we had an assignment where we had to list as many book references as possible.
While I do have a soft spot for this movie, I think this deserves a remake. They can modernize it and do the kid attached to his game console too much thing. Christopher Lloyd is still alive and could reprise his role as the librarian. Make it happen, Hollywood!
Let me guess, like Jumanji?
@@gmanz8487 Exactly like Jumanji for how it’s both a reboot and a sequel at the same time. You don’t have to watch the original, but it enhances the experience.
I personal like the page master, but I gotta agree the movie is weird :)
Did you know that there was a PC game tie in to The Pagemaster that acts like a sequel to the movie of sorts? MeltingMan234 talked about it in his Forgotten Media Mixed Batch episode.
Oh?
I never thought it was about reading books s just a book themed Christmas carol
I really LOVE How each book has a different kind of category. It can even progress even further.
*Fantasy* 🌟🐉🦄
*Adventure* 🗺🧭⚔
*Horror* ☠👻⚰
*Kid-Friendly* 🌈🌺🎨
*Comedy* 🤡🎭🎪
*Action* 🦸♂💥⚡
*Music* 🎼🎶🎵
*Science* 🛸🧬⚗
*Education* 🎓✏📘
*Epic* 🌩🌌🌍
This is one of those movies that I constantly played on repeat as a child. I once got in trouble for telling a visitor that they looked like Horror (I was young enough to not think it was an insult) 😂
Uruveil I remember once when my grandmother was watching me we watched this movie together and as soon it was done we rewound the tape and watched it again
Even worse, the poor dude probably had facial deformities.
Aw. Flawed as it may be, this movie contributed to my love of reading growing up. It made it seem like each book was filled with mysterious meaning and worlds and memorable people; it gave books Power, and worth beyond its price-- a pretty notion that I learned to hold onto, despite the onset of the cynicism of adulthood. Now, at 26 years old, I've got a well-loved library, and it's hard to look at the shelves and not imagine that they're somehow sitting there and quietly waiting for me like old pals, like Horror, Fantasy, and Adventure. So I'd personally consider this movie a huge success in every regard. Yes, it's gross bias. Read like an adult, enjoy it like a child.
Yeah, I've never understood this idea people have that this movie failed to make kids read. This movie made little me want to read all the classics.
I agree
And I know he's kinda creepy... But as a child I was totally enamoured by LLoyd's librarian speech. I love how he works at a library and he treats it like the most amazing job imaginable
It is. For the Duke of Edinburgh award I volunteered at a library which my Mum works at.
Pagemaster if done well could've been Night at the museum with books
How was he a creep?
@@calebmayfield3326 eh🤷♀️ people assume the worst
a creep? dude judge the movie for what it is without bias - watch it again
7:55 It's still a better role then what Patrick Stewart got in the Emoji Movie.
Agreed.
Absolutely.
What's the story Wishbone?
What's this you're dreaming of?
Such big imagination on such a little pup.
What's the story Wishbone?
Do you think it's worth a look?
It kinda seems familiar like a story from a book.
Shake a leg now Wishbone! Let's wag another tail.
Sniffin' out adventure with Wishbone on the trail.
Come on Wishbone!
What's the story Wishbone?
(three guesses on what was my favorite show as a kid)
wishbone?
The PBS series, Wishbone. It’s no contest.
Raven's voice is so soft and calming to listen to
Brushie Rider Awwww thank you!
Your welcome Raven ^W^
Check out her movie reviews!
Darth_ Madara
I know, she's so awsome!!!!
In one way, I find myself crushing on Raven just due to her voice. But at the same time I dread her sudden appearance in the videos as I wonder why she’s appearing in these again. :-/
Thanks so much for this review! I loved this movie as a kid when I was in Nigeria. It was one of the first vhs cartoons my parents bought me. As you can guess, most of the references and stories were unfamiliar to me. But I actually developed a huge love of western literature thanks to this movie
If the movie's intended purpose worked on at least one person, I can't fault it on that. :)
it's also worth pointing up how good it is to have two reviewers talking about the same movie, because we see two different points of view, and while NC goes loud about the movie's problems and make fun of it, Bobsheaux never stops himself from looking what deserves to be given credit. And... this movie does have a few things in it's favour.
also, I reccomend Scott Westerfeld's Leviathan trilogy, it's a wonderfuly written and illustrated steampunk trilogy with some unique Verne-esque twists.
"Wishbone" was a pretty great show about books. And how funny would it have been if he entered a Lovecraft book. He would have been insane at the end.
The best guess that I have for the living state of adventure, fantasy, and horror is the possibility that they're general anthologies of some variety containing multiple different sets of tropes and ideas in their multiple tales, becoming the physical representation/living apotheosis of their specified genre rather than singular stories that contain a singular interpretation of and perhaps world that revolves around said genre. Just a hypothesis though.
I'm a little nostalgic for this movie, but yeah, it's pretty flawed and doesn't do a very good job at conveying how awesome reading is. I always wished that Moby Dick part of the film was longer, though. It's just such a cool scene and it makes me crave a full length animated Moby Dick adaptation.
I've never said this before, but I like how Raven has become more prominent on this channel
Jusy wait until she appears in live action
You do a pretty good impression of Christopher Lloyd.
...disturbingly good.
I actually remember watching this film in elementary. The teacher probably showed it just to distract us. This movie scared me a bit because I thought more and more about it. A kid who possibly can't return home and is stuck in some imaginary world where he has no way of defending himself.
And its pretty coincidental that Leonard Nimoy and Frank Welker are in the same movie, because Frank Welker voices Megatron and Leonard Nimoy voices Galvatron.
Also R.I.P. Leonard Nimoy
So I've noticed. Even the Star Trek actors got to shine.
The Hyde part scared me sooooo much as like a 4 year old child. Very interesting to revisit this as an adult - thanks for the review!
Having fun isn't hard, when you got a library card!
heh you know i think the message of the story which i think people miss in some ways, is that the kid wasn't truely living he was wanting to hide in fear, not wanting to enjoy life, it feels more like if the 'page master' had just sent him back to the real world. than the kid would've lived not understanding that sometimes you have to have abit of danger, its why I enjoy books its escape fantasy in some places but it also but it also gives me the urge to go out at point to actually have the adventures and experience XD though thats my idea of what the message of the movie is so I could be completely wrong.
See what I love about this movie is that everyone gets something different out of it. I was already an avid fiction reader as a child, so the message I mainly took from this is to basically not be an know-it-all. There's more to life spouting off facts won't get you lol.
I wandered how the promo art from the movie show the sword like a powerful weapon to fight the odds, and in the movie is just a regular sword who find it from a dead corpse and didn´t actually hit anything
2 reviews in 1 day? It's like Christmas morning!
Giovanni Orellana it's rarer than sozen's commet
I highly recommend the Redwall Series. Very good books!
I want to reread those books as an adult that is such an underrated fantasy series
Love the cartoon. Wished for a grittier bloodier reboot soon.
I still have all those books. Is it strange that I always rooted more for rats than for mouses, though?
+Kiiriminna Hopefully not...I always rooted for the bad guys too.
Paladin Frost could not agree more. My fav tittle is Taggerung.
Not necessary, but I'll take it.
Also, imagine being Christopher Lloyd and being so typecast that you just learn to embrace it and don't care anymore.
I'm honestly tired of this "someone else already reviewed this" mentality. One person can bring an insight to a piece of media that someone else didn't. Also, like Bob said, no critic has the right to be the only one to give his two cents on something.
But what if someone *wants* to not review something that someone else already reviewed? What if they did feel that other person said pretty much all that they wanted? And what if they’re afraid that other person’s opinions might influence theirs, and they might steal points from that review, intentionally or otherwise? Just saying.
Two episodes in one day? Gee, Bob, I know you just did Christmas in July, but I didn't know we were getting Christmas In September, too.
Maybe the reason Adventure, Fantasy, and Horror are alive and the other books aren't is because they're not _like_ regular books. Their names are what genre they are, not specific titles like "Treasure Island" or "The Curious Case of Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde". Maybe they're anthologies, or designated mascots for their section of the library?
(Sees another Bobsheaux Review in the subscription box) Well, Never mind! Barbie will have to wait, as I enjoy another Bobsheaux Review!
2 reviews in 1 day?
Bob you are awesome
I feel like a child in a candy store.
It's the equivalent of scarce's legendary double upload.
They should've included my "Impact" a James Grider novel linked in my videos.
yep i was shock too but it is awesome
Yay! I feel kinda bad about watching them back to back, like I should spread out the awesomeness. But, nah.
Horror? Lol nope
Adventure? Woot woot
Fantasy? HELL YAS
How about KidFriendly, Comedy, Action, and Science?
Butterfly in the sky~
I can go just as high~
Alexis Hernandez twice as high actually.
10:53 high as a fucking kite based on what i just saw
Talk about odd casting choices - they hired Patrick Stewart and NOT had him voice Ahab, when he played that role in a live action movie already?
Bob's Raven = the best kind of raven
"And he gets turned into a cartoon"
Me: You mean he wasn't one already? Oh, you mean the character, not the actor. Got it.
Imagine if the page master was remade into a tv series. Maybe a Netflix series. Where the first episode is the live action stuff, though probably a different set up, and then either the second episode he goes to the library or it's introducing the books. Then the next episodes each showcase a book. It goes back and forth between the genres, but gives each a decent amount of exposure. Maybe two parts so each can tell a full story. Maybe they end the first season in a cliff hanger twist that keeps the kid in the realm. Either that or he just decides to return if they decide to make a second season.
I'm sure the page master would just be a promise like the wizard of oz who doesn't show up until near the end.
This was one of the most rewatched movies of my childhood and always had a special play in my heart... And I've always been terrified to revisit it because I'm scared of coming to the realization it sucked.
It's still a pretty damn fantastic looking movie, if nothing else.
I saw this in a theater at release and feel asleep because of a bad migraine and didn't finish it until a few years ago. Pagemaster, not Bobsheaux's review!
I actually love this movie, I consider it to be one of my top 10 favorite animated movies of all time. I actually like Richard's character development, teaching people that they shouldn't always live their life in fear. As for the books used in the movie, I see them more as a unique way to develop Richard. As for the animation and soundtrack, there's no denying that they are top-notch. The animation is lush and colorful, complete with high-quality designs, and James Horner really captured the feel of the movie, the two songs in the movie, Whatever You Imagine and Dream Away are also pluses, and I fell that they are underrated movie ballads. My only complaint with the movie is that I wish it was somewhat longer, I heard that some of the scenes were omitted from the movie, and I hope that a Director's Cut comes to fruition. All in all, I say that The Pagemaster is the most unfairly lambasted movie I have ever seen, I understand your opinion on the movie, but to each of their own, amirite?
I was a kid when this movie came around and it's been one of my childhood favorites. Don't get me wrong. Your review was very funny, but it taught me everything about using my imagination and that's why this film has been stuck with me ever since.
This film deserves a remake in my opinion. I like that angle you mentioned of Richard learning that escaping into fiction doesn't always help your problems. It would be a relevant message considering pop culture obsession nowadays and offer the perspective of not letting your imagination control you.
Maybe his arc would work better if he felt more like a social outcast at school and starts to retreat into books as a way of avoiding social interaction. This would result in frequent library visits leading up to when he ends up in the fictional world. He has to face the bad guys head on, and learn that its worth taking risks. This movie could do with more scary imagery as well to further boost the message.
"He wakes up from what was clearly a dream." Then how do you explain the fact that the three books fell from the ceiling around him?
4:50 Dishonored Wolf reference.
the Pagemaster was one of my favorite films from my childhood!
Richard Canipe the Pagemaster is MY FAVORITE MOVIE EVER!!! It's AWESOME
Gonna have ta disagree Bob this is one of my favorite childhood movies so the problems never bothered me then nor now XD
It was trendy to make fantasy films that had a "pro reading" message. The sequel to the Neverending Story had come out a few years before this film
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Critics are NOT supposed to change your opinion on anything that you enjoy. They’re just supposed to give their point of view in a much more detailed way than I like it or I didn’t like it.
It’s fine to like something and acknowledge it’s flaws😅
@@zeke_minori you’re not supposed to
2 reviews in the same day, with Raven Fox Audio making a cameo in both of them? Yay, dreams do come true!!
I honestly think this film achieved its purpose. In that sense, it is not flawed.
The Pagemaster was the Ready Player One of its time. High in references, low in substance.
TWO Bobsheaux reviews in one day? It must be a miracle!
How long till we see Bob review Ali Baba and the Gold Raiders....ZAITUNE!!!
CWDTrixie There's the Phelous/Snob/Lupa collab review with Harry Partridge if your interested in that, okay?
CWDTrixie there was already a huge Phelous review, I want to see him do Rose of Baghdad myself.
*Claps at 2 reviews in a day*
If I had my way with the Pagemaster,First,I would make Richard Tyler an internet geek who ONLY cares about computers 'till,as the movie goes on,learns the value and importance of books and starts to warmup and care about them.Second,change the character designs like Richards animated form(I do not like his lips at all),especially Adventure,Fantasy and Horror,come on they look like Webster from Beauty and the Beast:Belle's Magical World with arms and legs.Then finally, have a plot twist that the librarian is the titular Pagemaster all along
Heh. A computer nerd who doesn't see the value in literature. I like it. :)
I don't have a lot of time to dedicate to recreational reading myself, but there was something very satisfying about recently getting a Barnes & Noble exclusive collection of penny dreadfuls. lol
He wasn't a bookworm so much as he was a nerd, focused on science, statistics, and facts not works of fiction. I don't find out all that unreasonable for him to have given any attention to fictional works of horror, fantasy, and adventure. Also, on why those books were sentient, I'd offer it was because they were Genres in book form. A genre compilation, not just a single story or novel.
I liked this movie a lot as a kid. It was also how I was introduced to the classics which are among my favorite stories.
This is one of the very few things that I think deserves a remake. Definitely has a good concept with potential but the characters are flatter than the paper they're drawn on.
I remember reading Robert Louis Stevenson's masterpieces. just saw this movie very recently. The library intro is indeed very creepy and didn't age well, but it's still one of my favorite movies growing up.
2 videos of bob ? It's never to much Bob in a day, Bob iS Good for the cutis
I'm glad I subscribed to you, Bobsheaux.
Two reviews virtually back-to-back! We're pretty much spoiled today.
I'm surprised that this one got the box but I can understand, it looks like a disjointed montage of nicely animated classic stories that doesn't know what to do with itself.
What books would I recommend? There's plenty but I can't overstate how much I like All The Wrong Questions by Lemony Snicket. Drop whatever you're doing and go read it, it's good.
Just like in the Wizard of Oz where Dorothy learns a lesson by not being told to click her heels right away (thus negating the point of the story) the Pagemaster wants Richard to get over his fears by going on an adventure through the stories in the books (being that written word can't hurt you) the question to be asking is how did the Pagemaster or Librarian know Richard had to learn such a lesson?
He has that wise smile at the end when Richard runs off. Is he all knowing? Did he recognize him from around town? More over the dream is made to seem real otherwise how would the real world version of the Pagemaster know that Richard had changed. For all he knew it was just a kid who changed his mind about checking out books and fell on the floor.
Is he a wizard? The movie never explains it.
Yeah that made me mad with Wizard of Oz why the Good Witch didn't tell Dorothy right away how she could get back home. Her reason being, "You would have never believed me". Are you kidding me?
Eeeh, I gotta disagree a little.
He didn't just run away from all the dangers in his adventure, he confronted most of them, helped save his friends in all of them, and needed to use a combination of strength, speed, and quick wits to make it all the way to the Exit. The idea is that journey is the most important part of a story and you can't ever have a story if you never do anything.
I remember liking this movie as a kid. I'm sure it doesn't hold up as well as I remember, but I can still appreciate the animation, which was dramatic, creative, and beautiful. It's message is ham-fisted, but it's got enough positives to be entertaining for younger audiences.
"I'm a toon!" Would have been the perfect part to dub in another Christopher Lloyd sound byte: "Not just any toon!" Man, I wonder why nobody goes to that library anymore.
Another end credits sequence related to Jim Henson. I guess you really do miss the magic. Cheer up, Bob. Look what I've got. It's a Twinkie wiener sandwich! Your favorite.
If two books have sex, they are stuck. (Seriously, check out the Telephone Book Friction Thing, by the Mythbusters. It's Awesome.)
Also at 2:35 : 8% of accidents involve ladders, 3% involve trees DOES NOT EQUAL an 11% chance of an excident involving a tree and a ladder. Because Accidents involving Ladders AND Trees is a subset of accidents with trees, the percentage of accidents with ladders and trees is smaller than (or equal to) 3%.. (It could only be equal to 3% if every accident with a tree, also involved a ladder.) (Pressuming ladder-accidents and tree-accidents are independent, then the percentage of ladder-and-tree-accidents would be 0.24%, by the way. But they probably aren't independent.)
Besides that you can't just add odds, like that, there also is another reason why there isn't a chance of 11% on an accident.
These percenteges, 8% and 3%, are a percentege of the number of accidents, not the chance of an accident. That's an incredible important distinction.
(But because the Chance Of Accidents isn't given here, it's impossible to say what the chance is. I'm very sceptical it's 11%, because people use ladders all the time, and it only goes wrong (relatively) occasional.
(In practice the chance of an accident is a very hard number to research. People don't usually count how many times they did not fall of a ladder.)
I'm sorry about this rambling, but statistics and probability are kind of my mathmatical passions, so i was triggered. My bad. :(
Idk I thought it was a nice movie. It got you interested in great literary works and characters. I once read the original Treasure Island novel. Because I knew it through The Muppet's Treasure Island and Disney's Treasure Planet.
I think if the main character was coded to be (or even blatantly stated to be) on the autism spectrum he would've been more sympathetic. And it would've made his awkwardness and obsession with statistics a lot less one-note.
I like the Pagemaster's design though. His beard, hat, and staff all look like scrolls! And Patric Stewart as a pirate is *awesome*.
Lishadra How do we know that’s not what they were going for?
Autism wasn't really a thing back then, though. In 2000 only .07% of children were diagnosed with ASD, an estimated 1-2 out of a thousand people were thought to be on the spectrum. On top of that, the leading causes of ASD are genetic and pre-natal in nature. The way his parents were characterized I think it's safe to assume that His mom wasn't drinking and snorting lines while she was pregnant.
Most poignantly, though, I don't think audiences would have been able to identify with a protagonist with, as it was thought to be at the time, an obscure developmental disorder. They probably would have felt it more cringy, to use the modern vernacular, than endearing.
2 reviews in 2 hours holy crap
While I do see more and more of the narrative flaws as I grow older, I will always love this movie's aesthetic, music, and voice acting.
14:49 Probably to cut costs. Then again, it's kind've a weird complaint because many animated movies cast celebrities with professional voice actors. After all, Zootopia had Jason Bateman, Idris Elba, Tommy Chong, and Octavia Spencer but also had Maurice Lamarche in a role that was bigger (relatively speaking) and more important than Tommy Chong's but I don't see anyone questioning that or saying "why didn't they get a bigger name instead?".
did you just make a Dishonored Wolf reference? XD that's amazing, Bob. I love the support you give to your supporters.
I used to like this movie as a kid, but it hasn't held up AT ALL! Its not irredeemable, but it's certainly flawed.
I think what they were trying to show was that he needed to learn to escape from the world once in a while. It wasn't fully that they were saying that you needed to read, it was that you needed to read something besides the bad things in the world. If someone watches the news that only has bad things going on, they would be afraid of every little thing, but if they watch the news sometimes and watches other things that are fun, action packed, and have happy endings at times, then things wouldn't seem always bad in the world. I think in that regard, they hit the nail on the head.
Having fun isn’t hard
When you got a library card
Until you’ve checked out. XD
I watched this when I was a kid (mainly because my third grade teacher had the AWESOME idea of playing DVDs for the last few minutes before the bell rang) but I don’t have that big of a nostalgic connection
I don't hate this movie, but never understood it either, all because of the characterization of the protagonist. As you said; 'How could a kid who is so obsessed with statistics _not_ be a bookworm?'
It doesn't make sense, and really works in reverse by reenforcing the idea books are nerd shit - which I'm pretty sure wasn't what they were striving for, yet it ended up becoming that by the director(s) and/or script writer's inability to recognize this flaw early on.
The movie should have emphasized that what the kid had been reading up to now was, as C.S. Lewis would say, "the wrong kind of books"- lifeless, boring stuff full of information that would be utterly useless to a kid like him - and that he should read more things that would teach lessons and nourish the imagination.
gonna watch this first and Minions second, 2 reviews... awesome! :D
Mr Dewey is all mysterious and all up in Richard’s face like “Fantasy, Horror, Adventure, it must be for you! OOOOOOOOOOOOOO!”.
Frank Welker and Jim Cummings are one of my favorite American voice actors! They did a fantastic job among these Hollywood celebrities.
With 3 Star Trek alumni as voices for this movie, Im surprised we didnt get one Star Trek joke
I know! But alas, he's not a Trekkie.
Raven Fox Audio ok thats cool
Kinda mental we were both working on a review for the exact same obscure 90s half live action half cartoon movie at the exact same time innit. Released mere days apart, it was a pretty sweet review, nice and slow, like a TV episode in it's own right. I liked it a lot. I need to know by the way, how do you make these 25 minute long reviews and get them out so frequently? Took me almost a week to make my video and it was only 7 minutes. I need your secret!
Pagemaster is a childhood memory i won't forget
Okay, so you have a movie with several celebrities voicing some characters and a few non-celebrity voice actors voicing the others. I'm fine with that, after all in "Surf's Up (2007)," you have Shia LaBeouf, Zooey Deschanel, Jeff Bridges, James Woods, and the main villain is voiced by Diedrich Bader, a non-celebrity voice actor. If you think Frank Welker and Jim Cummings were strange casting choices for important characters, that's fine, but I don't.
I agree the movie definitely has its shortcomings but I still really enjoy seeing its message of overcoming fears and its awesome animation.
Was I the only one absolutely terrified by Mr Hyde as a kid? XD
A bombardment of Bobsheaux reviews. wowzers
Fun fact: this version of Long John Silver was based off of the actor Robert Newton, who was not only famous as playing Long John Silver, but also began the stereotype of pirates going "Arrr, matey!"
damn bobsheaux, that was quick, not that im complaining, your reviews are great
This movie could have been more with the premise it had.
I love the idea of a library coming to life, but I wish it was more about reading rather than just walking through a library, running away from everything and trying to find the exit.
Could have been about managing a magic library as the kid learns to be the next Pagemaster.
Didn't John Tron review the video game version of this movie
No, that was Peanutbuttergamer
Shinobi Pizza oh OK
I didn't remember a peanut butter gamer video video OK calm down you're not having a mental break down
Hamsters am I Right there's a game?!
Hahaha. I remember when I watched this as a kid. When Jekyll said “we’re in danger even as we speak”, I wondered why they kept on talking.
My favorite books are Fiction and Fantasy
AND I DONT MEAN FAN-FICTION
Now I know why I love adventure-fantasy books
Watching both The Neverending Story and Matilda lately helped encourage me to read books again.
Well one thing's for sure, I am *GLAD* I never saw this film growing up. I liked how the sections were indicative of their respective genre. and that's it. That was the coolest part.
Hey Bob! Long time watcher, first time commenter (I think?)
I grew up with this movie, so I can say that this is a guilty pleasure of mine... I can admit that you did a better job of reviewing this than the Nostalgia Critic (I was screaming at his video for things he got wrong about the film- not for his opinions mind you)
But please... Please tell me you didn't really think it was vertigo that made him fall. They focused on the water for a reason- he slipped on it as he was about to keep going.
Other than that detail, I felt your insight was fair and balanced. This movie never made me want to read, but I usually watched this movie when I was home sick from school as a kid, and it always cheered me up because of how odd and funny it was to me.
Thanks for making a better review of this movie than the Nostalgia Critic, who obviously didn't watch the movie enough to get the details correct for his own review. Thanks for doing your homework and paying attention to the stupid little details XD
Kind of funny to see him as a kid in his older films now a days when I’ve gotten so used to Mac as an adult due to seeing him many times on RLM’s Best Of The Worst videos.
10:53 Is that taken from That One Scene in the Star Wars Holiday Special?
My dreams come true
Bob reviews 2 movies in one day
Its miracle
Channel Hop: The film was produced entirely by Turner Pictures, but Turner sold the North American rights and half of the film's copyright to 20th Century Fox in order to avoid budget shortfalls (Turner retained TV and international rights).
Glad to see you reviewing this thing that scared the living crap out of me as a kid
12:53 I was waiting for the Bobsheaux logo to appear! You've let me down! XD
I read a LOT as a kid and maybe I disliked this movie because of it - as it really, really simplified stories and books down to just three that are developed,.... and neither of the three are really for kids. This could have been a great story if he jumped from one book's plot to the other...
Ironically, it almost makes it seem like the people who made the movie hadn't actually _read_ the books they were portraying and were instead only going by the cliffnotes and various watered-down versions of the story you glean from pop culture. For example, when Jekyl and Hyde first came out, the two of them turning out to be the same person was actually the TWIST, whereas nowadays it's often the one thing you know about the story even if you're clueless about everything else.
Heck, I'm not sure I would even call Jekyl and Hyde a _horror_ story, per se. It's more of a thriller/murder mystery story...
Raven be making a new book
Coming next year: 50 shades of Ray.