GOLF CLUB BASICS BLADES VS CAVITY BACK IRONS
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- Golf club basics blades vs cavity back irons. Mark Crossfield and Coach Lockey dicuss the difference between bladed and cavity back golf clubs. Does loft rule everything or does the technology each manufacturer put into their clubs make a massive difference to performance. What are the best golf club irons you can buy for your game. Everyone wants to play blades, should we all be buying them?
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You forgot to factor in the satisfaction of nailing a blade and how good they look in the bag. If performance is similar ......
Excellent Mark, one of the best films you have made recently. Challenge perceptions, devise a practical test, present the data and hey presto. I really hope this film gets a million views because our fellow golfers need to break free from the general mis-information. I am going to watch it again, "tracking CG what?"
Lovely!
So everyone who recently spent a grand on a set of irons to get some extra distance could have saved money and just tip ex'd a new number on their old ones? 😂
Probably the extra spin on the MB will end up giving you the same peak high you get with the APEX with that 2° launch dif. Good video guys! Tech doesn't matter to this, just loft.
Never going to top that intro!!!! Army for life!
Great to see videos from when you boys were in the same room again! Once again you’ve shown how minimal any tech actually is, and I love it! Buy new and fancy if you want, but it’s still up to you to hit it properly. Thanks as always!
the coach that changed the ball thats the funniest thing ive seen all day. gotta love some lockey!
Always love a good blade v cavity back battle. Nothing better to get people fired up on the forums
The word 'forgiveness' for golf irons gets banded round the Internet like SGI irons are going to steer your errant shots back to the pin and make up for the fact that you dug the club in an inch before the ball. Refreshing to see this being challenged (as you have done before) I tested and bought blades as my first clubs and never felt they held me back. But due to the relentless reiteration of nearly all sources stating SGI must be played unless your a pro, I bought a second hand set of forgiving irons and played the 2 side by side. My inconsistency shone through equally with both types of clubs. The only difference being I could feel mishits better on the blades, so if one deserves the 'game improvement' moniker it would be the blade.
Couldn't agree more! Started with a set of Tour Edge Jmax GI irons. Unexpectedly won a $15 ebay bid on an older set of Mizuno T-Zoid True blades. I'm approximately 16 handicap and have been hitting the blades better than I ever hit my GI irons with no more shanks than usual (although the shanks are a bit more dramatic with the blades). Got my first eagle a few weeks ago after landing a big draw/hook on the green with my 5 iron (could never hit a draw/hook with the GI irons).
No club or ball is going to help if you’re shanking or laying sod those are the result of major swing flaws. You don’t need to feel bad shots off the clubface, the ball flight will tell you everything you need to know. It’s not like you can’t feel mishits with game improvement irons. The sweet spot is the same size, the cavity back doesn’t help a solid strike. Perimeter weighting helps deliver more clubhead mass to the ball on mishits. You still feel bad shots and see bad shots but you might still clear the bunker or the water.
Common sense says minimizing the effect of a bad swing will help you shoot lower scores. The laws of physics say perimeter weighting will help reduce the effect of a bad shot. Both clubs will perform the same on square strikes.
Blades can add control to a pro golfers game, they add only punishment to a handicap golfer. That’s why they’re not recommended.
Actually with mishits the results are even worse with so called game improvement clubs, but as you said, propaganda and brainwashing in golf is strong.
Something that I’ve suspected for a while that only makes more since with time. Golf OEMs are in the business of making profits. New “tech” irons always have a different marketing strategy to advertise perceived benefits. More speed, more forgiveness, or whatever the current catch phrase is today. Largely the buyer is unaware of loft jacking, and this video does a great job of exposing the OEMs for this (6iron VS 7iron). Also, jacked lofts cause gapping problems not only on the backend of the bag (PW-gap- sand w, etc), but also in the long irons. Now, hybrids are replacing 2-3 clubs in a players bag, plus their fairway woods.. at $100-200 /Ea USD for a wedge (because now you need 4 additional wedges to gap for your 42* Pw) and hybrids, your standard complete set of clubs will cost you north of $3k USD. While blades largely just change the looks of the iron… There is no surprise OEMs sell fewer of them than gi irons and clubs. I recognize that I am biased because like you I started on blades, learned how to swing a club, and now play them well - but the whole, “you shouldn’t be playin blades” is just a marketing plan to get you to buy more clubs… golf was played at a very high level for decades without, it’s only changing now because there’s more money involved for OEM to sell more clubs - they sell more by chasing new tech. My Rant’s over on a dead thread. Peace, love and Greens in regulation.
IMHO, that's one of the best analysis video I saw you guys do. I think it's Kevin Na who said earlier this year he was dumb to ever play Blades... and to me, you put some science behind those words. I think it rings even more true to mid handicappers like me. If the distance is pretty much the same, if the sweet spot is bigger (or at least the CBs are much forgiving on missed strikes), if I have a two degree advantage on launch... why would I choose something that makes me less confident behind the ball? I agree there's feel and personal choice, but based on science? I just don't see why.
Great job guys, from the other side of the Atlantic
Francis Patenaude I have the opposite feeling when playing blades. I feel more confident looking down at a blade because they make me feel like more of a player, like someone who doesn’t need the help from chunky cavities. I went from a 15 handicap down to 3 with blades in the bag.
Haven’t watch you guys for ages what was I doing !!!!!!!love the banter ⛳️👌
This is why we subscribe. Well done Mark and Coach!
I found your video fascinating and very informative. Keep making the vids and don’t let someone spoil all our fun! I LOVE the human element that you and coach inject when testing, you guys keep it real and it’s a blast to watch your vids. Thanks from across the pond.
I’d be interested to see peak height and land angle. Everyone loves to talk launch and spin but I like to see the whole picture...
Ryan M 100% agree here! If same loft gives you more height and steeper decent, with same distance that’s a win for a lot of ppl because you are then given a choice of same distance and more stopping power and or same height and such with more distance by leveraging d-plane. I don’t know anyone anymore that argues the tech drives the distance more than the loft, but the tech may give you more flexibility. And I do say MAY because it doesn’t always play out the way for every player.
Ryan M winning with desperation? We did not see the numbers
Then go to TXG for the true, data based conclusions. This channel is WOEFULLY unscientific in its approach.
It’s like they literally said, you can’t compare numbers to others. You can only work and use your numbers for yourself. So basically the only way to figure out what works better for yourself is to try each one for yourself to match to your swing
Mark I really enjoy these types of videos even if I don't always agree with the message being delivered. You articulate your points well and have given us all useful information to think about. Keep it up and stay healthy
Love your content! One piece of this puzzle that I would love to see is how different the interaction is between the CB and Blades on different lies. It is interesting to see that the numbers are nearly identical off a mat but would they be out of the rough? Sand? If the assumption is that the player is always in the fairway, sure who cares which one you pick but if the interaction with different lies are significantly different thats a BIG deal for the average golfer.
Facts!!!!
Hey! I chose that clip you showed as my favourite bit from the past !👍 thanks Coach!
Asking questions like this is why your videos are better than anyone else’s. That brain of yours never sleeps.
Interesting video, not completely sure how would be best to do so but would great to see a test on whether there is a loss of yardage dependent on miss hits with a cavity and a blade 👍
I used to be a personal trainer and man, your bit about us hits home lol
Just bought a used set of Snake Eyes, 2 thru 4 cavity muscle back and 5 theu wedge MB, they feel exceptional when you hit the sweet spot. Not so much when you don't. Gonna have some fun with them this year.
Hi Mark. Great video. Did you use the same type of shafts? Weight clubs and offset can be reason of diferent point of strike. I think so. And size of grip too :-)
I've been following for a long time. The way you deliver your points could not be more concise.
Such a good video shows how all new clubs are marketing and not technology, mainly in the irons section, drivers have improved but in the last few years they have stopped as well it’s just marketing that sells now.
I wish the rest of the golf world would get in pace with what you guys produce. Really.
Been waiting for a video like this, I really enjoyed it.
Love the comparison. What would be interesting to me is to compare similar misses on the face. Similar toe and heel misses and how much difference there is.
Hello Chaps... The two boxes of Srixon balls on your desk. Question. I think the one in the back is the AD333. Is the Q Star Tour the U.S. branded equivent of the AD333? Are they the same ball, compression etc. I saw a very in depth ball review on PXGs robot done in the UK ( @ Today's Golfer ) and the AD333 was the best value / performance for the average ball speed golfer but can't seem to find them in the US. Would it be the Q Star regular or the Q Star Tour do you think?. Figured I asked you guys are close to Cleveland / Srixon boys now... Cheers
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Mark, I really like this subject and great work, let’s remember though, you are comparing “ideal” “centered” hits. You may find even more loft protection for the techy clubs on the off center hits. As you know, that’s why the manufactures tend to use the 9 zone club face location tests. Also, you have a club face that is bigger, the center in relation to where the club touched the ground will be slightly, albeit fractionally, different on the two clubs. Also, my guess on speed is that the blade is a more familiar look to you, generating a more confident and quicker swing.
I do strike it pure 😂🙈
I've seen Gc quad read clubhead speed differently between iron models so it's most likely just a different read. Most good fitters rely on ball speed reading more than clubhead speed because it can be read slightly different depending the shape of the head.
@@MarkCrossfield Great test! Your thesis seems to validate what I have found out on the course. My game improved from mid 80's to mid 70's this year when I went from Titleist AP1's to Titleist T-100's. The fitter was leery, but hey, the results don't lie. I feel my dispersion is much tighter with the T-100's. I could care less what number is on the bottom of the club, I just want to hit the yardage I know I can with the club. Now, I have just ordered a Titleist 620 combo set. 4,5 and 6 in the CB and 7,8,9 and P in the MB. Not expecting the same drop in scoring, but looking for better shot shaping.
Best vid in ages, really interesting! Why don't the manufacturers just put loft on their irons like they do with their wedges? Many thanks
One of the reasons I like Cleveland golf is because they have started to put loft on clubs rather than club numbers - it might dent a few egos though!
Confidence is everything! I purchased Taylormade M4 irons, knowing that the lofts were a club stronger than my previous set. However, the reason I did was that in fitting the drop off on a bad hit was only 10 yards vs 30 yards on my old set. Also, who doesn’t like standing at a par 3 with one club less than their mates.
Nobody cares only your ego
Hey Mark. Love all you do. You've been helping my game for years. I'm sure you've answered this question before....but...What is your sensor and screen set up in you garden?
He's running GC Quad and hitting into a net. If you watch the garden videos notice the ball just disappears into the screen - he's editing an overlay screen cap from his tablet so we see a screen while he's hitting. Neat effect.
@@Coreadrin awesome! thanks! I seriously thought there was a projector active while swinging. thanks again.
Mark, I have only been playing golf for about a year now, and i am currently using a set of Wilson FatShaft irons, and i was wondering is there any particular advantage/disadvantage to using these, bearing in mind i am still a beginner.. Thanks
Blades offer consistent feel and no ‘hot shots’ - depth of shot always similar. BUT, big feel is short clubs in to the green and chip and run shots, you just don’t get that chip and run that runs way past the hole! I love to see lofts etched in to the sole, forget the number on the bat. And good idea is to put your length on the club with a sharpie if you can so you take the guessing out of the equation. Forged muscle is always great compromise👍 great video guys!
I bought my first set of blades this year (cobra MB’s) I was terrified at first but after hitting them there’s really not much of a difference if any when it comes to difficulty. If you hit the ball relatively solid most of the time you are more than capable of playing blades. Plus they look sooo much better than a cavity back. I’m never going back haha
Shaft length is the same, loft is the same, yet one is stamped 7 - can anyone say “marketing”? Purely for those who’s ego needs the distance.
Great video!
What difference do you think it makes that a strong 7i (30 degrees) is a half inch shorter than a standard 6i (30 degrees)? Surely that helps a lot of amateur golfers find the middle of the club more often? Curious what you think.
Half inch isn't really going to make any noticable different. Most amateurs don't even grip the club in the same place Everytime. Some choke down slightly without even knowing it.
Best video yet. Amazing watch. Need to get my mates onto this one
Mark. I started playing blades last year and my club head speed increased, and decreases when I switch back to the cavities. The blades have a lighter head which I believe is the variable.
Now that I play blades. I react differently then when I play my ping G25s. I am more defensive with my G25 because they peak height sooner. I fell like I am relying more on decent angle vs spin. My callaway razor x md blades peak height later in flight and seem to stop/spin more. My miss is on the shorter side. I fell like I have better control with the blades.
When I start playing golf 40 years ago I played a set of Wilson Staff blades didn’t call them blades just golf clubs. When I looked at bigger/fatter clubs what we would call game improvement now I felt like I would just chunk them into the ground and the Wilsons gave me a sense of confidence that I would have a better strike. Nowadays marketers and some reviewers want to tell you what to think. This shows me no matter what the club it still is just the golfer and rather than looking at ourselves we would rather blame the equipment and chase getting better by buying new gear instead of practice. The whole idea that some magic sticks will change everything.
Interesting video. Are you able to show the reasons to choose one over the other? For example how workable they are?
The debate that will live forever....
Great vid! Can you guys make a video on explaining D Plane more in depth and elaborate on how the different angles of the club face and swing path affect your golf shot. I know it’s not a driver or iron review that would get lots of likes and views but I still think it’s necessary and would be a great video that’s very informative for most :)
The strike location is VERY interesting. What I would want to know here is the peak height and decent angle. What I think you also would want to know from a tech standpoint is: hit some toe shots and heel shots off both clubs to see if, in fact, the cavity-tech is providing the distance forgiveness that the OEM is claiming.
My take on strike position: With the apex having a wider sole, it’s easier to think it will bail you out when taking more turf and not digging. Therefore you can swing into the turf more and move that strike up. Therefore you are adding launch because there is more loft higher up the face giving you the launch characteristics. Whereas a blade has a narrower sole so “picking it clean” is more a priority and taking more turf can be more of an issue due to its tendency to dig causing that lower strike. With a lower strike, the gear effect will cause the Club to deflect downward and the add spin which is where you see that extra couple hundred revs I’d spin. Your thoughts Mark on my theory?
There isn't "more loft up the face" an iron is completely flat. Hitting a little bit higher on the face affects launch because you're striking slightly above the center of gravity, vs a lower strike is hit below center of gravity so it launches lower.
Would love to see you test a 4-5 iron blade against a similar lofted game improvement club. The lower the loft the more a miss hit is punished. In my testing when you get to around 40 degrees loft, perimeter weighting isn't measurably helping. But in the low lofts it absolutely is measurable. Also you need to actually measure the CG on those clubs. Pull the head and measure it Because most blades actually have a LOWER cg than cavity backs, all the weight is in the lower part of the club in a blade and the main factor in cg is face height and blades almost ALWAYS have a lower face height than a cavity back. It's easy to measure just pull the heads and balance them on a needle and mark it.
You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about
What about swing weights as an explanation of your different swing speeds? Are they the same? I have no idea 💡
Regarding the club head speed difference, I think it's a weighting difference. I know the shafts are the same length, but are they the same weight? Also when you built these two clubs, did you account for the differences in head weight? The heads get lighter the lower the loft to account for the longer shaft length (which makes the shaft heavier)?
I'm running into the same issue with an experiment I'm doing. I had a 4 and 3 iron built to the same length as my 5i to see if I could one-length the top end of my bag to make them easier to swing consistently. But the problems that my fitter explained are that the head weights get lighter with the lower lofts. So he added weight to try and keep them feeling like my 5i, but there's only so much you can add before you risk the club / head breaking during use. Another issue is what shaft to use? We used a 5i shaft to keep the weight and bend profile the same as if you use the corresponding shaft for the head, the shaft will get cut shorter and affect it's feel / stiffness.
Why I think it's good companies are doing these new "technology" clubs:
So, after doing this experiment, the personal realization I've come to is that what this technology really gets you is a 6i head built to the proper weight / loft / bounce of a 7i head so it can mate with a 7i shaft. That in turn allows you to get more distance lower down in the set, while maintaining the right flex and feel of the set, and maintain the desired bounce of the club (because if you adjust the loft of the head you're adding / taking away from the bounce, which could affect some players). This is another reason I love that companies like Titleist have their T range, and they even included the new T100 strong lofted version as that means you get a head built and designed to the new loft. This as opposed to taking the normal T100 head and bending it, which would affect the bounce.
Great test as always!!
Thanks for the vid Mark. Can you do the same test but trying to replicate an off centre hit with both clubs? As you say at the start, the “tech” that the big manufacturers advertise is a larger sweet spot, which is why amateurs (like me!) gravitate to them. Good to see that they perform similarly with a near perfect strike though.
Cool video as usual. Would it be possible to try and deliver like numbers with toe or heel hits? Curious if you duplicate speed and delivery but intentionally hit towards the toe or off center and see how much shorter the blade goes, if at all.
I'd have loved if you'd have shown the actual flight profiles of both clubs. Yes, one launches 2° higher than the other one, but is the peak hight the same? What about descent angle? Maybe the blade launches slower but it lands quicker, no? Would that make a real difference on the course? Maybe it'd be a good test to take both on a par 3, hit five white balls with one and 5 yellow ones with the other, plant a camera greenside to see if there's any difference in the landing.
I would love to see a part two with these same irons with you chaps trying to hit toe and heel shots.
Mark was the difference in strike location due to you hunting the CG?
Very interesting considering I currently own Callaway X2 Hot irons and have just got a second hand set of Titleist 690Mb irons being delivered.
Great topic. How about playability e.g shaping shots into greens as is often bandied about with blades? Perhaps a blind test would be fun
Mark, what about the weight of the heads? If the apex head is heavier then maybe that would be a reason why your strike is higher on the face than the blade? Gravity is playing its part surely? Just a thought. 👍🏼
THE best bunker shot in golf!
Higher strike on the face maybe caused by the Apex having more offset vs. the MB?
Was only thinking about this yesterday, power clubs with their strong lofts seem ridiculous when you look at the number on the bottom but what if you just play the loft and ignore, should everyone be playing the higher moi clubs for the higher launch (didn't know why it launched higher until this video, very interesting) and from your results being so similar you could argue everyone should for the bit of help and for some confidence inspiring shape. Trade off I suppose is, what does that 300rpm difference change to when the lie causes spin to drop off. Once again, regardless of all the tech, just shows strike is king and always will be.
Could the slower club head speed in the Apex be due to the head-weight of the Apex being heavier than the MB?
I was thinking the same, but I'm not sure.
I think the head weights are similar
I was wondering whether shaft and grip weights were comparable as reason for 2 mph clubhead speed difference
No it's the way gc quad reads the clubhead speed. Different shaped clubheads are read differently by gc quad sometimes. Clubhead speed on GC quad isn't as reliable as ball speed reading is.
A 6 iron head weighs less than a 7 iron head. Given the same length shaft, the 6 iron will have a lighter swingweight. This is most likely a factor in the faster swingspeed you experienced. The shaft, if identical, would also play slightly stiffer in the 6. Keep these clubmaking basics in mind when doing a similar test. You MUST swingweight the clubs identically for the purest data.
This was good. Thanks.
I’ve watched every video of yours for the 4 years and I think this is the best informational video I’ve seen!
Ok guys my mind is trying to help work some of this out with u. With if u could add one more element I think it would be the element of how a person perceives the game let me explain. Are u a player who plays in a straight (a to b) line basically straight. Or are u a person of abstract thinking where geometric line become a game aka workability personally I would take the blades and practice for confidence and invest more time verse some weekender few rounds a summer that goes out with his mates and hit straight balls
And at that point apex might be the choice. This has nothing to do with product performance just how a person might perceive the game ~just a thought~ 🙂 also love the new video format u guys are putting out is stellar keep it up
Are there similar differences between a super distance iron and hollow bodied or cavity backs?
What about the weight of these irons?? Any different in actual weight or position. Might explain swing speed.
I think an interesting variable would be to compare data among three different ranges of handicappers... so +10 handicap player data compared to 5-10 handicap compared to
You could argue that, given all other factors are equal, a 2 degree increase in launch angle from 19* to 21* is quite significant as this is an increase of 10%. An increase of 10% in any other area would be considered quite impressive I reckon. Just a thought.
Great mythbusting :-) As per below I would also like to have seen peak and land angle. Assuming at least the landing angle would differ slightly in the cavity back's favour but probably not a great deal either.
MB: Project X 120 gram shaft. Apex: True Temper 95, a lighter shaft, could account for your swing speed differences.
Also the weight of the club head itself and aerodynamics.
Question to Seve Ballesterous - How do you hit the ball lower? I hit it 2 grooves lower on the face. That means technically you hit the MB higher because they were = except the strike, unless the CG is 3 grooves higher, but I think it's only 1 maybe 2 grooves higher. That would be fun to know.
Brilliant test Gents, really helps cut the marketing BS. Given the iron byron average of dead middle (kudos Mark 😂), would be interested in seeing a repeat test with toe and heel strikes to see the return there.
I would like to have what you have with wedges to 8 as blades and 7, 6,5 cavity a nice blend.
Would love to see a vid on toe and heel strikes with those clubs... does the tech really come into play on that, because that's what the manufactures are selling us..please do..thanks guys
I got from this that performance is very similar between blades and CB’s if the loft matches, but would it be fair to assume that there would be more of a difference in the drop offs with a blade when strike was less consistent? I.E. more forgiveness in ‘tech’ driven irons for non optimal strikes than with blades? Or is that just another assumption I shouldn’t make? Cheers, enjoyed that.
Awesome video great to see you both back in the same place, best intro I’ve ever seen, did that go in 🤣 #army
At the end of the day it's what clubs you like and what you feel confident with.. I won't play blades or do I choose to Play blades ..does it matter ...No .. buy what you like the look of its your hard earned cash and if you like pxg or benross then buy them 👍👍👍👍
Mark, I’m really curious to see as you get to play more with your hybrid style six iron and five iron how that works out for you. In years past you preferred blades for their consistency with spin and control versus a hybrid. I’m playing blades from 5-pitching wedge partly because of your influence over the years. And I found that I have the better ability to control trajectory with blades irons even in the five iron. I still have a hybrid if I want to hit it high in funky positions for a four iron.
Hey Mark, just as cavity back irons, are there any blade irons with strong lofts as well ?
Just wondering 🤔
So, if dynamic loft is KING, and D plane rules does that mean if I use a set of "strong" lofted clubs e.g. Speed Zones, does that mean when I set up my bag I use less hybrids and throw in more wedges, or do I swap out to hybrids higher in the set... As I travel down this rabbit hole each junction makes me more and more confused.. keep up the good work guys,, STAY SAFE.
Love the video! But are we not talking about consistency with distancing with off centre hits which is where the tech comes into its own! Mark your great at being consistent with your strike how about coach gives it a go and we see averages over say 20-30 hits with each?
Could the weight of the club be making the difference to your speed at the start? 👍
From the shots shown it looked like you hit the Apex straighter than the MB. Would've been nice to see dispersion. Also as other posters have said the peak height and descent angle numbers would be interesting as that combined with spin gives the stopping power.
A selling point on the distance improvement irons is “they have a bigger sweet spot”. Any thoughts? Given that handicaps have barely changed over the years, are these irons actually helping anyone in a meaningful way?
If the strike point was the same would launch then be the same? (normally bottom hits equal low launch high spin)...Good video
I love a good tech talk.
What type of impact screen and projector do you use in this video?
Great vlog. Really interesting conversation. We humans are complex and quirky creatures
some how need to review INCONSISTENCY, what does a off centre hit provide, most golfers struggle to totally find about what the clubs are giving because of inconsitency
Totally agree! Felt missed the point a little of cavity clubs
I’d also like to see which performs better out of very bad lies. Would a cavity irons forgiveness help you hit a shot out of a terrible lie with forgiveness or would the blades workability and sole allow a person to dig it out better?
@@ahastar1141 I changed from cavity irons with a thick sole to cavity irons with a thin sole and the difference out of the rough was noticeable. With the thick soled clubs I tended to pull shots off target but with the thinner sole the shots were straighter.
agree, would be interesting to see similar mishits and the results
singleta Exactly. The blades perform better out of bad lies and even on missed hits they will yield better results in terms of dispersion. The game improvement clubs are golfing gimmick and a myth.
Interesting. I take it this was before lockdown?
Hi Mark, I'm thinking of buying a 'Puttout' to practice my putting, are they worth it?
Yes
@@MarkCrossfield thanks
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Were the two clubs the same weight? that would have been interesting to measure and see if that had an effect on swing speed.
would love to see the peak height that will tell the difference that 2 deg makes.how many foot difference does that equate to?
Great entertaining video and great technical content which is why i watch. The most telling thing and confirming a view I have. The search and pursuit of optimal spin id frankly a bit of a laugh. Ýou said it Revs per MINUTE do not equate to much when the ball time in flight and spin rates at launch mid launch and falling out of the air at end of flight over a shorter time span does not make a paramount difference for most golfers. Especially when you dial in non tour strike consistency. Thanks you have confirmed my bias and view. Thats why I don't pursue "ultimate" spin values. However consistent spin from good cavity forged with repeatable spin is desirable. Cheers
kinda confirms me wanting to buy blades now :D
Question! Wouldn’t you expect the CGs to be reversed? Techie clubs pull weight low and back, lowering CG, vs blades that have a naturally higher up the face CG? I thought the strike pattern would be flipped because of that with MB having the higher strike point on the face
Great puncturing of the speed through tech nonsense.
Is it still safe to say the apex is more forgiving on off centre strikes?
Mark
Might it be beneficial to do a vid on the history of the cavity back v blade. Just looked and the ping eye 2 cavity backs that everyone coveted in the 80,s had a 7 iron lofted at 36 degrees. That’s more loft (2 degrees) than the callaway 7 iron MB. Why the drive to loft down and what does the modern tech do to make a 6 supposedly fly like a 7. It looks like modern blades have lofted down too but not as much.